Some in the exoplanet science community said that if any civilization is properly developed and advance ,.....it will be so quite and efficient as if nothing is happening meaning almost impossible to detect !
Something that really resonated with me from this and driving electric vehicles off-road is the "magic carpet ride" because there's something totally unique and transcendent about total silence through the woods and mountains. What a beautifully produced, shot, edited and lived journey you've made here. Great job!
@Kai For sure! It's definitely a unique experience and hard to put into words. Mark says it best toward the end of the film. Glad that resonated with you and stoked you enjoyed the film! 👍
Um, you still hear some kind of rotor/motor and rattling from the gear though. At least I can hear it in this part I'm watching where they're coming to stop to park. Edit: and in the part where they're talking about magic carpet like you're saying, I can literally hear their bikes whine past the camera. Maybe it's just quieter than gas-eating engine? Sorry :p Also they seem to be stressed out about the charging a lot.
@@armadilllo why not if batteries become durable enough. This is not for wild adrenaline filled dirt bikig but adventure riding. I love loud bikes but when you spend whole day on a long trip engine sound starts to annoy
@@maucina12 I can count the number of pipes I've made louder on three fingers and two were race bikes, out of over 45 bikes I've owned I kept them all stock, wind noise on bikes is way more intrusive and thats why I wear ear plugs, motor noise never bothered me.
Well done! Y'all might also be interested in this: I rode the TAT on my DSR this summer - 7500 miles, mostly off pavement, across the US. Ride report is on advrider "Two bikes, one jug, Zero DSR"
@@ElectricCycleRider It took 57 days to ride 7610 miles coast to coast, but there were a lot of zero-mile days for weather, rest, hiking, etc (10 total zero days, I think). When riding, 150 to 200 miles a day was typical, which is pretty similar to our pace with gas bikes on routes like the TAT. 7610 miles divided by 47 riding days is 162 miles per day, average.
Maaaan this was SO well shot and edited! Beautiful work. A million times better than Long Way Up hahaha. Thanks for showing the reality (albeit worst case scenario) of electric off-roading with long distances!
@NewZeroland Glad you enjoyed it! Despite all the challenges, it was such a fun trip. Great to see what you're doing over at the NewZeroland Channel too!
Props to the video team on this one too... planning, logistics, and actual shooting on something like this is a hell of a task. And the footage is fantastic.
This is now a second video of yours that I have been truly mesmerized by the scenery. I am so happy that I waited to watch this on my big screen TV. The bikes looked really cool but the trip looked absolutely amazing. Kudos to you guys.
I was astounded when McGregor and Boorman chose a modified, prototype Harley Davidson LiveWire to do the Long Way Up. It was clearly the wrong bike for the job when the Zero DSR had existed for years before, not just because of the type of bike, but because the DSR charges much faster (3 times faster) on 6 kW AC chargers than the LiveWire does. DC is a different matter, but DC chargers don't tend to exist out in the wilds and certainly not in the wilds of South America. Glad to see you guys picked the right tool for fhe job. Great video and nicely shot. And not a bus or generator in sight!👍😊
@John Chivers I have to admit I haven't watched Long Way Up yet. To be fair, I have heard about everything one could tell about their trip but didn't want it to influence our film, so I didn't watch it! I do believe the Zero DSR is the best bike for the job in this environment. One thing I do know is that Harley Davidson gave a sizable incentive to that production to use their motorcycles. I'll leave it at that! Thanks for the note 👍
I loved this. Reminded me of Long way Up. Huge Props. Not sure if its live yet but there is another charger in Leadville at 3rd and Harrison next to Cycles of Life.
@Adventures with Charlie So funny that you mention that. I was just up in Leadville and noticed that nice ChargePoint charger in town that you're referring to. We had a waypoint for it in our map but thought we'd get a quick top off and be on our way at Colorado Mountain College. Obviously that wasn't the case! Thanks for the note! 👍
Nice work Tucker! Incredible videography and an amazing trip into the "unknown". Thanks for sharing your adventure with the rest of us electric motorcycle fans. Can't wait to see the full-length feature film on Netflix! 👍
This video was amazing - fantastic work guys. Really gave me the kind of feeling I used to get watching the Top Gear long-range specials after they were done with their jokes and were giving insightful commentary. Those sweeping shots were giving me chills!
Wow.I.Need.To.Watch.This.Many.Times Thanks to you and Mark for doing this Tucker. Your comment about whether EV bikes and ICE bikes should be compared is so valid to me. I ride completely differently than I did in my 52 years of ICE bikes now. And just like those who came from the East across the US to the West in covered wagons many 'waited' until the railroad was built before traveling West. EVs especially two wheelers are the 21st Century version of venturing out West as pioneers. I'm so happy to be part of the new community of pioneers too.
@Mark Kitaoka Great to hear your perspective. I know you've got a lot of experience with the DSR and cool to hear your thoughts. Mark posed a great thought there with the EV and ICE comparison. It's inevitable we'll compare the two but they also need to be appreciated for their differences.
@@ElectricCycleRider Thanks Tucker. As I was talking 'ad nauseum' to my gf about the differences it occurred to me that ICE vs. EV bikes are similar to the difference between sailing vs. power boats. I've owned a sailboat and rented power boats. One is WAY different than the other and each has their own unique benefits and downsides. Sailors would not be caught dead in 'smut pots' aka power boats and power boat owners laugh that we use 1000 year old tech to move our vessels.
@@robertcoco893 I'm not so sure about that, figure A 215 watt solar blanket that folds down to the size of a laptop and weighs about 7.8 pounds you could get 2 of them And probably have a full battery in about 5 to 10 days of good sun. No you're not gonna charge up during your lunch break, however We are talking about an adventure bike type situation. Ride 50 miles up into the back country set up a base camp with the chargers going and spend a week of fishing and camping Before packing it up and heading home with a full charge. [ Granted we are talking about spending a week in the back country with half of your bike's cargo capacity taken up with charging equipment but I think it can be reasonably done If you pack light and are handy with the fishing Pole.]
@@mrspeigle1 that's stretching it a bit, a 215W panel is about 80%efficient, then account for inverter losses. Then the panel would have to be at a perfect solar angle throughout the day. Still, 10 days is really not practical.
👍👍 Nicely done. "Electric and gas bikes cannot be compared". So true. Different experiences. I already have an electric bicycle. Love it. This is the next step. Gliding along silently on BDR type terrain is my dream. I want to enjoy nature, not hear the engine.
@Kunal Chabria We thought about doing it that way! We'll probably have to consider that for next time, a lot of great footage hit the cutting room floor on this trip. Thanks for the note and happy to have you here on the channel 🙌
I've been waiting to hear about attempting to take a DSR on a BDR for years--a real-world take on its performance-- for so long. Especially considering it's currently the only EV in the major ADV category. Thanks so much for doing this piece.
@Mat Johnson Awesome man. The initial research and route-planning made it obvious pretty quickly that the only way to get it done successfully would be on a Zero DSR with the ChargeTank. Looking forward to more updates to this model! Thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed it!
Hey Mat! I just posted the in-depth bike review of the Zero DSR for this type of riding if you'd like to check it out: th-cam.com/video/q8r1K2AnTxw/w-d-xo.html
A few of us have been fortunate to ride THE ENTIRE Continental Divide unsupported, and you did pick some of the most scenic parts of it so great set up. Having an electric jeep as support is awesome, and certainly reassuring as a back up. Props to the film crew, really nailed it! I used to ride a Zero SR, and as an offroad enduro/adv rider looking for sketchy asf terrain and single, I knew the DSR wasn't quite up to task. I upgraded to Energica and am happier with it's build quality and DC charging, but I've wanted a capable & proper electric dual sport since emotos were a thing in 2012. It went exactly how i expected, worth it yet hard work because of quality/durability issues & range limits. We're right there with you, riding DSR and mostly on-road emoto...but ready to immediately buy the first adv bike beyond Zero DSR limitations. Cheers for living the dream on behalf...until I'm back at it again and riding off-road BDR electric!
Love it, I've ridden the COBDR and would love to take on some of the other routes on an electric. Also, it's not an adventure until something goes wrong!
I agree - good luck if something goes wrong with your Zero. I have two - a 2019 DSR that's been perfect and a 2014 S that has been a nightmare. Zero doesn't release much technical information on these so fixing it yourself will certainly not be an option unless you're dealing with a very simple or basic repair. In that case, with current conditions you should expect a lengthy wait for parts and not much help from Zero customer service.
So we’ll composed and edited - just a great documentary. I usually get bored with ride videos about a quarter of the way in, but this held my attention to the end. Great job.
@Jim McWhirter That is so awesome to hear! It's tough breaking 7 days of footage down into a 24 minute piece. Glad you watched it all the way through and enjoyed it 👍
I don't have an adventure bike, but if we had roads like that (endless dirt roads) around here I'd have to seriously consider one for the fun factor. The bikes did well. I think people forget how long it took petrol (gas) vehicles to evolve along with the infrastructure to support them. This is still early days for electric bikes and yet they already seem very capable. As you said - you just need to recalibrate your expectations and enjoy the downtime while charging to explore towns etc
Glorious short film guys, really enjoyed how you put it all together - I was right there with you for every moment. Fantastic to see you pushing the boundaries of the bikes and discovering the new world of electric motorcycling.
Theres a sector of us that like the back country for the quiet. I get this on my E bicycle and love the idea of motorcycling this way. Ride up to a stream and hear the water gurgling! Well done guys.
As an older guy with 50 years on two wheels, I can accept that this may be the future which at this stage probably won’t include me, however, I can appreciate that yeah, silent riding in many circumstances could be a revelation. I have ridden many and varied motorcycles over the years and currently riding an Indian Cheiftain which, along with several Harleys I have owned, gives me so much pleasure just listening to the ‘rumble’ of the exhaust…..I would miss that. 😎
Awesome video, Tucker! I like your realization of how awesome it is to slow down and enjoy the serene scenery. That’s a tough thing for someone with a racer mentality. I find that I have to force myself to slow down, as well. Although getting older definitely helps do that for you haha! Well done and cheers!
First off….superb cinematography and story telling…on point! Second loved seeing the electric bikes being pushed and what can be accomplished. I think its only going to improve. Since I’m looking at the 4xe in my future, would loved to have seen/heard how it did on the journey.
Production quality is insane on this man, like tv show level quality. Congrats man u should be really proud of this video a lot of hard work I can tell
+1 A roadside belt change on a Zero DSR is not trivial. You need the right tools and a way to compress the suspension to get the belt past the swing arm.
@NewZeroland Great question! We made it the entire trip without snapping a belt. After we crossed over into Wyoming, our Photographer wanted us to do a celebratory nose-to-nose burnout. I went a little too hard for the photo and snapped my belt. We originally had it as an "outtake" at the end of the film but decided we liked the summary of the trip best and pulled that scene out. To clarify and to answer @Karl Bloss question too, we found a massive log and used it as a stand for the DSR. Expecting it might happen, we luckily carried the right tools and were able to lower the swingarm and slip the new belt on. Mark used the Gates Belt app to figure the right tension and we were back on our way. To clarify, the belt I'm holding at 13:15 is because we were transferring Marks "essentials" over to my panniers. As I mentioned in some other comments, a lot happened over the course of 7 days and inevitably, a lot of scenes did not make the final cut. Hope this answers your question!
@@ElectricCycleRider This is really interesting info for me; I have a DSR and want to do gravel roads, and the belt snapping stats out there are keeping me from hitting the trails. I rode it with the chain conversion for a while but it's really designed for the FX model's lower torque and it killed my front sprocket, was really noisy, and I didn't enjoy the vibrations. Now on belt I'm loving the smoothness and quiet, and so am looking at designing a belt guard so I can get off-road. Really impressed you didn't snap a belt on the whole journey. Thanks so much for doing this video; really shows what's possible with electric, when the riders know what they're doing - i.e. not me!
@@NewZeroland For sure! We prepared for the worst and carried 3 spare belts for each bike, thinking we'd need all three. Pleasantly surprised that we didn't, until of course the burnout. Haha. 👍
I come back and re-watch this every few months because a). those trails are where we spent our summer vacations and it's nostalgic as heck for me, b). you guys really did a great job filming and editing this and c). I really hope you guys revisit this with the new DSR/X bikes.
Recently became a Zero S rider. I get more speechless every time I ride it. These guys are nuts. I would never try that wilderness stuff. Can't plug into a tree or a rock. But man, these guys are great riders. I would have eaten sh*t for sure on those trails in the rain.
These bikes have 20kwh, cant speak for suspension, but Id say these bikes are already here. Price is still wild though, I need to rob a bank before I could buy one My home made ebike will have to do for now, even with the pitiful 26km range
That was such an interesting thought in regards to electric vs. gas. "Maybe they just shouldn't be compared." Gas and electric bikes are just two very different things. It was nice to think about the idea of slowing down and taking your time.
Guess I'm old fashion in the sense that having a support vehicle removes all risk and negative outcomes from the trip. Looks fun and would have been cool to see on site repairs versus "let's just throw it in the support vehicle" type attitude.
Without reading everyone’s comments to see if this has already been asked . A nice feature would be to be able to switch off the front headlight to help your range even if it’s only a couple of miles gained . Glad y’all made it safely !
@@hotchihuahua1546 , I have pushed bikes on many occasions. No fuel, broken chain, flat tyre, untraceable electrical faults. The zero is no worse or better. Planning is the key.
Wow, what a beautiful film! I’m so glad that Brian posted this on Facebook otherwise l doubt I’d have come across it. Thank you so much for making this. I shall share it far and wide. I wonder if you could do a much longer ‘behind the scenes’ type of film for those of us who’d love a bit more detail. I’d be very interested in hearing about the decision to stay with the standard belt drives. I would have thought a chain conversion would have been a top priority for a trip like this. It looks like a belt was replaced in one scene. If that was the only replacement, then it should give DS and DSR owners confidence to go off road with their bikes. I’ve done a fair bit of off-roading with my 2014 DS and its belt drive, but nothing on this scale! Top marks. It looks like it was the experience of a lifetime. 😊
Wow that last part was interesting, that you can go slow and it feels right. That they aren’t comparable to traditional motorcycles. That’s really cool
@bruno melli We rode it a little earlier than we'd like. This was late June into early July. We thought we'd have a nice window of weather but as you can see, that wasn't always the case!
I have a DSR BF in the UK. Don't think we can 1000 miles in one direction without getting wet. Great video, inspiring me to get a charge tank and get on with it. That said I have done way more recreation miles on this than all my previous gas bikes. 16000plus miles and counting. Great video, loved watching, I will probably watch several more times. Thank you.
Great question! Yes, after the re-route scene at 18:24, we had to travel quite a few miles to find a charge station in Basalt. From there, we recharged the bikes before making our new route to Gypsum. 7 days of footage needed to be cut into a 24 minute film so in an effort to not bore the audience, some of these scenes were not played out in the final film. There were about 9 charge stations that were not featured in the final film. Hope this answers your question!
See more of the adventure at Electric Cycle Rider: bit.ly/ECR1000Miles
Some in the exoplanet science community said that if any civilization is properly developed and advance ,.....it will be so quite and efficient as if nothing is happening meaning almost impossible to detect !
Something that really resonated with me from this and driving electric vehicles off-road is the "magic carpet ride" because there's something totally unique and transcendent about total silence through the woods and mountains.
What a beautifully produced, shot, edited and lived journey you've made here. Great job!
Agreed. This is why I take my sur-ron up old logging roads.
Gravel roads are still roads
@@rexlutgen6361 wow you must be fun at parties
@Kai For sure! It's definitely a unique experience and hard to put into words. Mark says it best toward the end of the film. Glad that resonated with you and stoked you enjoyed the film! 👍
Um, you still hear some kind of rotor/motor and rattling from the gear though. At least I can hear it in this part I'm watching where they're coming to stop to park. Edit: and in the part where they're talking about magic carpet like you're saying, I can literally hear their bikes whine past the camera. Maybe it's just quieter than gas-eating engine? Sorry :p
Also they seem to be stressed out about the charging a lot.
This video should have millions of views some day. Everyone who rides gas is curious to know if this is possible. Thanks for posting!!! 💪🔥
I'm not curious, I'll never give up gas and will never buy electric, so no, not everyone.
@Twisted Trigger Enduro Thanks man! Glad you enjoed it! 👍
@@armadilllo why not if batteries become durable enough. This is not for wild adrenaline filled dirt bikig but adventure riding. I love loud bikes but when you spend whole day on a long trip engine sound starts to annoy
@@maucina12 I can count the number of pipes I've made louder on three fingers and two were race bikes, out of over 45 bikes I've owned I kept them all stock, wind noise on bikes is way more intrusive and thats why I wear ear plugs, motor noise never bothered me.
@@Random-ed2xf an old fart who doesn't ride soy girl bikes and never was into skinny jeans or man buns.
Well done! Y'all might also be interested in this: I rode the TAT on my DSR this summer - 7500 miles, mostly off pavement, across the US. Ride report is on advrider "Two bikes, one jug, Zero DSR"
That is amazing! What a huge undertaking that must have been. We'll check the ride report out. How long did that take to complete?
I saw your build on ADV Rider, awesome work! Thank you for the share on the forums!
@@ElectricCycleRider It took 57 days to ride 7610 miles coast to coast, but there were a lot of zero-mile days for weather, rest, hiking, etc (10 total zero days, I think). When riding, 150 to 200 miles a day was typical, which is pretty similar to our pace with gas bikes on routes like the TAT. 7610 miles divided by 47 riding days is 162 miles per day, average.
Very cool. I read the thread. Quite a trip! Thanks for sharing the journey 👍
Great and interesting video, you guys did amazing, again thanks for sharing 🏍️
Maaaan this was SO well shot and edited! Beautiful work. A million times better than Long Way Up hahaha. Thanks for showing the reality (albeit worst case scenario) of electric off-roading with long distances!
@NewZeroland Glad you enjoyed it! Despite all the challenges, it was such a fun trip. Great to see what you're doing over at the NewZeroland Channel too!
Thank you for the kind words! Glad you liked it!
I’ve been imagining something like this ever since I learned of Zero electric bikes 7 or 8 years ago. Nicely done!
Support is always welcomed during a ride like that. Glad to share the experience and would like to repeat in person. Electric is the way.
@Mk Greenwood 🙌
Props to the video team on this one too... planning, logistics, and actual shooting on something like this is a hell of a task. And the footage is fantastic.
This is now a second video of yours that I have been truly mesmerized by the scenery. I am so happy that I waited to watch this on my big screen TV. The bikes looked really cool but the trip looked absolutely amazing. Kudos to you guys.
@ybaldeagle That's awesome to hear! Glad it made it to the big screen. Curious, what's the other video of ours that you enjoyed? 👍
What an epic adventure...such beautiful country. Great production guys!
I was astounded when McGregor and Boorman chose a modified, prototype Harley Davidson LiveWire to do the Long Way Up. It was clearly the wrong bike for the job when the Zero DSR had existed for years before, not just because of the type of bike, but because the DSR charges much faster (3 times faster) on 6 kW AC chargers than the LiveWire does. DC is a different matter, but DC chargers don't tend to exist out in the wilds and certainly not in the wilds of South America.
Glad to see you guys picked the right tool for fhe job. Great video and nicely shot.
And not a bus or generator in sight!👍😊
@John Chivers I have to admit I haven't watched Long Way Up yet. To be fair, I have heard about everything one could tell about their trip but didn't want it to influence our film, so I didn't watch it!
I do believe the Zero DSR is the best bike for the job in this environment. One thing I do know is that Harley Davidson gave a sizable incentive to that production to use their motorcycles. I'll leave it at that! Thanks for the note 👍
I loved this. Reminded me of Long way Up. Huge Props. Not sure if its live yet but there is another charger in Leadville at 3rd and Harrison next to Cycles of Life.
@Adventures with Charlie So funny that you mention that. I was just up in Leadville and noticed that nice ChargePoint charger in town that you're referring to. We had a waypoint for it in our map but thought we'd get a quick top off and be on our way at Colorado Mountain College. Obviously that wasn't the case! Thanks for the note! 👍
No way! That is great to know. Thank you for the share
Thanks for covering how the DSR did on this!
@Nathan Shimek 🙌
Nice work Tucker! Incredible videography and an amazing trip into the "unknown". Thanks for sharing your adventure with the rest of us electric motorcycle fans. Can't wait to see the full-length feature film on Netflix! 👍
@Joe Panza Awesome! Glad you enjoyed it! 👍👍
Loved this. Great cinematography and narration. Good job guys!
@KS Myth 🙌
Thank you!
Fun Zero redo of Long Way Up. Enjoyable.
This video was amazing - fantastic work guys. Really gave me the kind of feeling I used to get watching the Top Gear long-range specials after they were done with their jokes and were giving insightful commentary. Those sweeping shots were giving me chills!
Wow.I.Need.To.Watch.This.Many.Times Thanks to you and Mark for doing this Tucker. Your comment about whether EV bikes and ICE bikes should be compared is so valid to me. I ride completely differently than I did in my 52 years of ICE bikes now. And just like those who came from the East across the US to the West in covered wagons many 'waited' until the railroad was built before traveling West. EVs especially two wheelers are the 21st Century version of venturing out West as pioneers. I'm so happy to be part of the new community of pioneers too.
@Mark Kitaoka Great to hear your perspective. I know you've got a lot of experience with the DSR and cool to hear your thoughts. Mark posed a great thought there with the EV and ICE comparison. It's inevitable we'll compare the two but they also need to be appreciated for their differences.
@@ElectricCycleRider Thanks Tucker. As I was talking 'ad nauseum' to my gf about the differences it occurred to me that ICE vs. EV bikes are similar to the difference between sailing vs. power boats. I've owned a sailboat and rented power boats. One is WAY different than the other and each has their own unique benefits and downsides. Sailors would not be caught dead in 'smut pots' aka power boats and power boat owners laugh that we use 1000 year old tech to move our vessels.
Man whoever shoots your B roll is a badass! Love the series - A+ production and very entertaining
Awesome ! Love to see the addition of portable Solar charging ⚡⚡ RESPECT
Solar charging can't be done. One could never bring enough panels with them to provide a meaningful charge.
@@robertcoco893 I'm not so sure about that, figure A 215 watt solar blanket that folds down to the size of a laptop and weighs about 7.8 pounds you could get 2 of them And probably have a full battery in about 5 to 10 days of good sun. No you're not gonna charge up during your lunch break, however We are talking about an adventure bike type situation. Ride 50 miles up into the back country set up a base camp with the chargers going and spend a week of fishing and camping Before packing it up and heading home with a full charge. [ Granted we are talking about spending a week in the back country with half of your bike's cargo capacity taken up with charging equipment but I think it can be reasonably done If you pack light and are handy with the fishing Pole.]
@@mrspeigle1 that's stretching it a bit, a 215W panel is about 80%efficient, then account for inverter losses. Then the panel would have to be at a perfect solar angle throughout the day. Still, 10 days is really not practical.
👍👍 Nicely done. "Electric and gas bikes cannot be compared". So true. Different experiences. I already have an electric bicycle. Love it. This is the next step. Gliding along silently on BDR type terrain is my dream. I want to enjoy nature, not hear the engine.
Great film. More content like this!
@Ryan Hecksel Glad you enjoyed it! 👍
This should have been a 7 episode series. Just discovered your channel, keep em videos coming. 🙂
@Kunal Chabria We thought about doing it that way! We'll probably have to consider that for next time, a lot of great footage hit the cutting room floor on this trip. Thanks for the note and happy to have you here on the channel 🙌
I've been waiting to hear about attempting to take a DSR on a BDR for years--a real-world take on its performance-- for so long. Especially considering it's currently the only EV in the major ADV category. Thanks so much for doing this piece.
I’ll be doing a bike review for adventure in more detail after too. It will come out in a couple weeks. Cheers!
@Mat Johnson Awesome man. The initial research and route-planning made it obvious pretty quickly that the only way to get it done successfully would be on a Zero DSR with the ChargeTank. Looking forward to more updates to this model! Thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed it!
Hey Mat! I just posted the in-depth bike review of the Zero DSR for this type of riding if you'd like to check it out: th-cam.com/video/q8r1K2AnTxw/w-d-xo.html
Do you think a KTM 390 would make it quicker
A few of us have been fortunate to ride THE ENTIRE Continental Divide unsupported, and you did pick some of the most scenic parts of it so great set up. Having an electric jeep as support is awesome, and certainly reassuring as a back up. Props to the film crew, really nailed it! I used to ride a Zero SR, and as an offroad enduro/adv rider looking for sketchy asf terrain and single, I knew the DSR wasn't quite up to task. I upgraded to Energica and am happier with it's build quality and DC charging, but I've wanted a capable & proper electric dual sport since emotos were a thing in 2012. It went exactly how i expected, worth it yet hard work because of quality/durability issues & range limits. We're right there with you, riding DSR and mostly on-road emoto...but ready to immediately buy the first adv bike beyond Zero DSR limitations. Cheers for living the dream on behalf...until I'm back at it again and riding off-road BDR electric!
@octopusenvy That's awesome! Great to hear your perspective and thanks for the note!
Wow excellent video...I viewed it when it was under 650 views...several months from now you will have more than a million!!!
@Tempting Fate 🙌
Love epic'ness like this! Thanks for sharing.
@TheFuture | Ride Report 🙌
Suspenseful, honest and beautiful storytelling! Thank you for enduring some of the discomfort of this journey so that we could enjoy the adventure.
@Rust Bucket Rembrandts Thanks for the note! A little discomfort is totally worth it (and expected) for a fun trip like this 👍
Beautifully shot, entertaining, and educational. Great timing for a video taking on this dimension of riding. You guys rock! Keep it up!
Cant believe i just watched that for free. What a top shelf production. Killer bikes as well.
Hell yeah! So great to see electric bikes killing it. We love riding our E-Fighters! Great video guys.
Love it, I've ridden the COBDR and would love to take on some of the other routes on an electric.
Also, it's not an adventure until something goes wrong!
@Meerkat ADV That's right! It's an incredible route. Pretty cool to have the infrastructure to do it on the electric bikes if you so choose.
Thats a great point! LOL
I agree - good luck if something goes wrong with your Zero. I have two - a 2019 DSR that's been perfect and a 2014 S that has been a nightmare. Zero doesn't release much technical information on these so fixing it yourself will certainly not be an option unless you're dealing with a very simple or basic repair. In that case, with current conditions you should expect a lengthy wait for parts and not much help from Zero customer service.
@@ElectricCycleRider My only suggestion would have been soft luggage.
Great job guys! We have seen the future
@Warren Williams 👍
So we’ll composed and edited - just a great documentary. I usually get bored with ride videos about a quarter of the way in, but this held my attention to the end. Great job.
@Jim McWhirter That is so awesome to hear! It's tough breaking 7 days of footage down into a 24 minute piece. Glad you watched it all the way through and enjoyed it 👍
I’m really glad you did this this; is a great adventure on many levels. I love to see the map and ride this.
What a place to ride. Awesome👍🏻
👍👍 Great camera work, amazing scenery, and some wild riding. My hat's off to you. Good job!!!
@Ronald Duffy 🙌
I don't have an adventure bike, but if we had roads like that (endless dirt roads) around here I'd have to seriously consider one for the fun factor.
The bikes did well. I think people forget how long it took petrol (gas) vehicles to evolve along with the infrastructure to support them. This is still early days for electric bikes and yet they already seem very capable. As you said - you just need to recalibrate your expectations and enjoy the downtime while charging to explore towns etc
Cheers to that!
@Campbell Zero One Great points! 👍
You can carry extra fuel, extra batteries, I don't know.
Great story telling throughout this, loved every bit of it. And it's very inspiring!
Glorious short film guys, really enjoyed how you put it all together - I was right there with you for every moment. Fantastic to see you pushing the boundaries of the bikes and discovering the new world of electric motorcycling.
@Nigel Morris Thanks for the note. So cool to hear you felt as if you were there, that was our hope for the film!
Thank you, Nigel! It was really fun to see how capable these bikes are!
This was epic, glad to have my eyes opened to the possibilities.
Theres a sector of us that like the back country for the quiet. I get this on my E bicycle and love the idea of motorcycling this way. Ride up to a stream and hear the water gurgling! Well done guys.
Great job!! On the ride and the film.
@ohiomoto Appreciate it!
As an older guy with 50 years on two wheels, I can accept that this may be the future which at this stage probably won’t include me, however, I can appreciate that yeah, silent riding in many circumstances could be a revelation.
I have ridden many and varied motorcycles over the years and currently riding an Indian Cheiftain which, along with several Harleys I have owned, gives me so much pleasure just listening to the ‘rumble’ of the exhaust…..I would miss that. 😎
I am 63, love my dsr.
Can't wait for the DSR/X, if that is a thing.
Please please make this video into series. Fantastic video by the way!
Awesome video, Tucker! I like your realization of how awesome it is to slow down and enjoy the serene scenery. That’s a tough thing for someone with a racer mentality. I find that I have to force myself to slow down, as well. Although getting older definitely helps do that for you haha! Well done and cheers!
Neat vid. Looks like a fun trip.
@Adam Waheed Thanks Adam! It was for sure 👍
First off….superb cinematography and story telling…on point! Second loved seeing the electric bikes being pushed and what can be accomplished. I think its only going to improve. Since I’m looking at the 4xe in my future, would loved to have seen/heard how it did on the journey.
Well done! that's the nicest electric motorcycle review I ever saw.
@Orpaztron 🙌
There is something totally serene about riding electric off-road motorcycles.
Broke your subframe…Noraly would be proud of you
Hahah! Whoops!
Production quality is insane on this man, like tv show level quality. Congrats man u should be really proud of this video a lot of hard work I can tell
This video is possibly the best I have watched on electric bikes, this should be shown to anyone who refuses to believe that electric is the future
the production quality of this is out of this world ! Well done ! Very relaxing to watch and intersting to get to know these bikes
@p4ul.f Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
An inspiring ADVenture. We'll, guess my 120-ish mile range Indian FTR Rally has no excuses for not being on a longer journey.
@Scottie Ray That's a sharp bike!
Great video!
It made me very nostalgic of all the bike trips i've had over the years. Can't wait for our next one
Amazing video, absolutely enjoyed every minute of it! Thank you so much for sharing your adventure with everyone!
What happened with the snapped belt? Is there another episode??
+1 A roadside belt change on a Zero DSR is not trivial. You need the right tools and a way to compress the suspension to get the belt past the swing arm.
@NewZeroland Great question! We made it the entire trip without snapping a belt. After we crossed over into Wyoming, our Photographer wanted us to do a celebratory nose-to-nose burnout. I went a little too hard for the photo and snapped my belt. We originally had it as an "outtake" at the end of the film but decided we liked the summary of the trip best and pulled that scene out.
To clarify and to answer @Karl Bloss question too, we found a massive log and used it as a stand for the DSR. Expecting it might happen, we luckily carried the right tools and were able to lower the swingarm and slip the new belt on. Mark used the Gates Belt app to figure the right tension and we were back on our way.
To clarify, the belt I'm holding at 13:15 is because we were transferring Marks "essentials" over to my panniers.
As I mentioned in some other comments, a lot happened over the course of 7 days and inevitably, a lot of scenes did not make the final cut. Hope this answers your question!
@@ElectricCycleRider wow, that's wild! I'm so impressed that the belts survived all that rough terrain. Can't wait to see what videos you make next!!
@@ElectricCycleRider This is really interesting info for me; I have a DSR and want to do gravel roads, and the belt snapping stats out there are keeping me from hitting the trails. I rode it with the chain conversion for a while but it's really designed for the FX model's lower torque and it killed my front sprocket, was really noisy, and I didn't enjoy the vibrations. Now on belt I'm loving the smoothness and quiet, and so am looking at designing a belt guard so I can get off-road. Really impressed you didn't snap a belt on the whole journey. Thanks so much for doing this video; really shows what's possible with electric, when the riders know what they're doing - i.e. not me!
@@NewZeroland For sure! We prepared for the worst and carried 3 spare belts for each bike, thinking we'd need all three. Pleasantly surprised that we didn't, until of course the burnout. Haha. 👍
great video guys and adventure.
@TheEVside Thanks!
I come back and re-watch this every few months because a). those trails are where we spent our summer vacations and it's nostalgic as heck for me, b). you guys really did a great job filming and editing this and c). I really hope you guys revisit this with the new DSR/X bikes.
Recently became a Zero S rider. I get more speechless every time I ride it. These guys are nuts. I would never try that wilderness stuff. Can't plug into a tree or a rock. But man, these guys are great riders. I would have eaten sh*t for sure on those trails in the rain.
Thanks for the video guys. Perhaps show us via another video how your helmet video and audio was set up?
@Hans Koeller For sure! We used the Tascam DR-10L and clap-synced them to our GoPros. A tedious process but the audio turned out great.
Incredible. I never would have guessed the COBDR would be possible on an e bike. The future of electric motorcycles is very exciting.
Great piece.
@Camilo Pineda Thanks Camilo! Glad you enjoyed it 👍
Hi Guys, this ride is a true dream! awesome and inspiring movie.
What a really cool adventure. Thank you for sharing it with us!
@Konrad Christen Glad you enjoyed it 👍
when 1 bike has less juice ,drafting off the more powered bike makes a big difference . not to mention drafting cars/trucks
another trip like that would be awsome for the channel. love your vids
you said it best. sick video
Great adventure and great video guys, hope we can see soon bikes with 20kWh and decent suspension and price for adv riding!
@noze02 I think that might be right around the corner! 👍
These bikes have 20kwh, cant speak for suspension, but Id say these bikes are already here. Price is still wild though, I need to rob a bank before I could buy one
My home made ebike will have to do for now, even with the pitiful 26km range
Love it! More, please. 🙏
@Ann Finnie 🙌
Thanks Ann!
Why doesn’t this have millions of views? It’s like a mini-documentary. Sick.
How much of those bags are batteries?
None. The battery is where the ICE motor would be. The electric motor is pretty small.
That was such an interesting thought in regards to electric vs. gas. "Maybe they just shouldn't be compared." Gas and electric bikes are just two very different things. It was nice to think about the idea of slowing down and taking your time.
Awesome stuff! Thanks for sharing!
Great video! Hopefully electric bikes and the infrastructure get there in the next few years where this can be something you'd definitely recommend
@Kretch89 Absolutely! We expect that it will continue to improve and can't wait to try it again 👍
Guess I'm old fashion in the sense that having a support vehicle removes all risk and negative outcomes from the trip. Looks fun and would have been cool to see on site repairs versus "let's just throw it in the support vehicle" type attitude.
Without reading everyone’s comments to see if this has already been asked . A nice feature would be to be able to switch off the front headlight to help your range even if it’s only a couple of miles gained .
Glad y’all made it safely !
I have never considered turning off the lights even keep my my spots on. Heated grips and heated gloves makes no noticeable difference.
@@kevinmair7571 If you have to push your bike to get to the next charging station you would change your mind . An option is better than none .
@@hotchihuahua1546 , I have pushed bikes on many occasions. No fuel, broken chain, flat tyre, untraceable electrical faults. The zero is no worse or better. Planning is the key.
Excellent footage and editing
This is so sick guys, well done! Such a professionally made and exciting video. Love it!!! 👍
Wow, what a beautiful film! I’m so glad that Brian posted this on Facebook otherwise l doubt I’d have come across it. Thank you so much for making this. I shall share it far and wide. I wonder if you could do a much longer ‘behind the scenes’ type of film for those of us who’d love a bit more detail. I’d be very interested in hearing about the decision to stay with the standard belt drives. I would have thought a chain conversion would have been a top priority for a trip like this. It looks like a belt was replaced in one scene. If that was the only replacement, then it should give DS and DSR owners confidence to go off road with their bikes. I’ve done a fair bit of off-roading with my 2014 DS and its belt drive, but nothing on this scale!
Top marks. It looks like it was the experience of a lifetime. 😊
Wow that last part was interesting, that you can go slow and it feels right. That they aren’t comparable to traditional motorcycles. That’s really cool
sick adventure!
@Michael Wilson 👍
What time of the year was that?
I rode the COBDR in July '16 and I too had to deal with more rain than I care for.
@bruno melli We rode it a little earlier than we'd like. This was late June into early July. We thought we'd have a nice window of weather but as you can see, that wasn't always the case!
Awesome video all around, great work!
Excellent video thanks for uploading 👍
Enjoy going slow and quiet. That is why I also have a 2017 Van Van 200. It is my forest exploration motorcycle and weighs under 300 lbs loaded up.
Eureka suma 2 tent is my motorcycle tent of choice! 😎. That Kelly is excellent also, cool post guys!
I've been waiting for someone to attempt this. Can't wait to try it myself. Thanks!!! I want the bike and the Wrangler!!!
I have a DSR BF in the UK.
Don't think we can 1000 miles in one direction without getting wet.
Great video, inspiring me to get a charge tank and get on with it. That said I have done way more recreation miles on this than all my previous gas bikes.
16000plus miles and counting.
Great video, loved watching, I will probably watch several more times.
Thank you.
Great video! Really enjoyed it, and look forward to riding an electric motorcycle in the future.
question. at 18:24 you have 58% battery, and at 19:30 you have 52%. Did you recharge somewhere?
Great question! Yes, after the re-route scene at 18:24, we had to travel quite a few miles to find a charge station in Basalt. From there, we recharged the bikes before making our new route to Gypsum. 7 days of footage needed to be cut into a 24 minute film so in an effort to not bore the audience, some of these scenes were not played out in the final film. There were about 9 charge stations that were not featured in the final film. Hope this answers your question!
@@ElectricCycleRider thank you for answering 🙏
This was a DAMN GOOD video man!
@A Jeep Come True Thanks man!! Glad you liked it.
this gives me hope and a future perspective!
Guys you did an incredible job.
Im stating the obvious but will say it again, what an amazing video. Thanks for sharing.
This was awesome. Hoping for an after it all shakedown video with more thoughts and a pro/con list.
Well done! Very awesome video
Wow! Really well done. I really enjoyed that!
What regeneration did you achieve?