The only reason beginners do the quick events is that the time limits are always too harsh for slower events. Allow 2 minutes for square or 3 minutes for 4x4 and you'll have plenty of participants.
@@josephdanforth4830 which in my eyes is unacceptable. 4x4 is one of the first events beginners learn, the cutoff should be 2:00, and the time limit 3:30.
Also agree! Which is why I think having tier 2 events and bringing back feet is fine as a middle ground. While some events are too repetitive and not as good as a fit in the WCA in my opinion, I still think its important to recognize those who practiced the events in some way.
I don't think people should care about spectator friendly events, at least at my country we are a small community and we compete because we like it and basically every competition is about the competition. BLD events are entertaining to those who like it and the fact that events are similar shouldn't be a factor and challenging on their own. Big events as well, it's only your opinion and if you don't like its fine they are similar but all completely different. Probably if you tried to get good at big cubes you can understand it's not just more pieces and only get good at one and become better at the rest. For us who do most events know the process of improvement and their own uniqueness. Again I don't think we do it for the spectators, we do it for our selves and that should be enough. Your tier events concept is completely uselless, organizers already chose what type of competition they are doing and you don't want to compete on a event then just don't pick it. That's why there are competitions like FMC Americas, the competitions with BLD events, and competitions based on the area where it would be held.
Yeah i dont like it when people say clock dont belong people practice these events and dedicate themselfs to getting good like 3x3 if it were to get removed people like me would get devastated we all love clock we even have a group chat for clock remember when feet was removed people alot of people disaproved of it and thats gonna happen again
Smh the memorization technique for 4BLD and 5BLD can be very different and removing then makes platinum extra easy and hence makes such achievements less prestigious
Besides clock, I think every event has it's place in the WCA. You have to remember that even though the competitions are moving towards spectator-friendliness, and being a "spectator sport", but you have to remember that a lot of the competition is also for the competitors themselves, and the interest of those who appreciate puzzles for the theory and what makes them a puzzle. You can't forget that it's not all for the cameras and for the ones watching. And honestly, if we remove those longer events and make it mainly focused around events that take less than 5 seconds or so, we have effectively made the equivalent of a cupstacking competition.
I think cup stacking is very different in that it's the same relative pattern every time, but even smaller cubes like 2x2 have very unique solutions. I understand the WCA not being fully a spectator sport, but I think that would be a great future for cubing for a bigger audience and more sponsors. My argument isn't really for small events but more for larger events, I think medium length events are still good for the sport :)
BRUH WHY DOES EVERYONE HATE CLOCK SO MUCH ITS A GOOD EVENT LIKE IF YOU DONT LIKE IT JUST DONT COMPETE BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE IT SO YOU SHOULD NOT REMOVE IT
people try to remove events without properly trying them and given them a real go like clock for example i wanted it removed without even trying it because of youtubers always using it at the but of the joke. I tried it and its one of my favourite events
@@CubeMasterYT what you dont consider is people still practice these events want to get wrs in it And want to compete in the world champion ship or nats
@@CubeMasterYT Why do you hate on Big cubes and clock? Most of the time, people dont rlly watch others solve, they just practice whatever event is next while waiting.
I'm sorry, but I believe that you are totally wrong on the big cubes and big blind. And repetitive does now matter. And you should not remove an event just because other people are so far ahead of others
In my opinion, repetitiveness matters a lot since I think the WCA would do better with more diversity, which is the reason why stuff like 8x8+, and Kilominx are not events currently. As for your second point, I agree that is true however my argument is that rankings are too similar because of events being to similar, so someone dominating an event is ok but not rankings being the same for several events in my opinion, just because the events are so similar in how they work. Just my opinion though :)
I think that before someone develops an opinion on these things, they should practice that event for a good amount of time. I think just saying to remove events because just one person is the best is invalidating the effort that the record holders put towards these events.
In my opinion, while I do have biases, you don't need to do an event so much to have an opinion on the event, since I'm judging them not on how much I like them but rather how much they fit (for example, I'm not a fan of 2x2, skewb, and FMC but think they still have a place in the WCA). Also sorry about being unclear in the video, but I think people dominating events is not a problem but more of events being so similar that dominating at one easily makes you the best at the other. Just my opinion though :)
my ideal list of future wca events: ---NxN--- 3x3 2x2 4x4 5x5 6x6 7x7 ---NxN SPINOFFS--- OH Feet FMC 3BLD MBLD 4BLD 5BLD ---NICHE PUZZLES--- Megaminx Pyraminx Skewb Square-1 Clock FTO All Events all events should be added because its like the most impressiive looking one up there with mbld, and there are a lot of all rounders and records could happen all the time because no one is top class at all events fmc can be not optimal as long as its less than 80 moves and you're doing it fast mbld should just be 2 cubes, remember all events is about speed
Very late but I disagree with most things said in the video. We definitely shouldn’t remove events because of the people who enjoy those events and put time and practice into them and the event tier system seems cool but I think we just need to accept that cubing is and always will be a niche hobby so making cubing competitions interesting for outsiders isn’t realistic.
Its a really fun puzzle, I think it just isnt good as an event because it isnt spectator friendly and has the special covers like he said in the video. I still like solving it
Bro big cubes are literally like the best wca events behind like 3x3. Big blind sorta makes sense but I don’t really care cuz I don’t do blind so I don’t know how repetitive but keep big cubes fr
About redi cube. Redi is intuitive, but unlike clock, there is place for development of your solves. I personally use 3 methods depending on scramble. 1st method: LBL - intuitive method. Step 1: First Layer Step 2: Pairs (solve F2L edges and orient top corners) Step 3: ELL (not just sledges, a bit harder - there are simple algs for Z and H perms. Pretty intuitive tho) 2nd method: TAL (Two Adjacent Layers) Step 1: First Layer Step 2: Adjacent Layer (solve 2 pairs + edge in between) Step 3: L5E (you orient last 2 corners with 2 moves and do one alg for l5e) 3rd method: Top First (yep, strange, I dont use it often, but its kinda fun) 1st step: Top (1 corner, 3 neighbouring edges, and 3 neighbouring to them corners) 2nd step: TL (Two Layers) - use this top to solve two layers like after the 2nd step of TAL 3rd step: L5E (same as TAL) And there of course could be more room for improvement - some things with tons of algs like ZB in 3x3. And in clock there can be no algs at all.
Agree that Redi Cube is a better addition than Clock, however it's too intuitive I think to be an event. Thanks for letting me know about the methods of it, wasn't too aware there are more approaches than I thought!
Honestly I think clock should stay. in my opinion clock is very spectator friendly because One its very fast, and Two for what you said about people not being able to see whats going on, that adds a factor of intensity because spectators know someone will finish any second and they dont know who it will be. Also, you said scrambles take forever, but they are acually really fast because you scramble in a pin order that stays the same every single scamble. i personally scramble clock in under 20 seconds and I dont practice it much By the way you dont need 3D print cube covers just litterally use anything big enough to cover it thats easy to take off anyways, to end, I enjoy clock, and i dont think it should be removed
About what you said about removing big cubes, why not just take out 6x6 and 7x7? If your problem is that they are all the same, you can just remove almost every big cube. Also, 5x5 is very spectator friendly and doesn’t take too long. So I don’t think it makes sense to remove ALLLLL the big cubes
EDIT: I see now that later on in the video you say they shouldn't be removed and should be tiered instead, but to be fair you didn't make it clear at all that you didn't want them removed in the first 11 mins of the video lmfao One thing which I highly disagree with is the sentence: "the events that need to go are..." we do not need to remove more events. Feet made sense, but Clock is having better hardware now and also more people practice it. it is also not looked down upon by non speedcubers, (feet had this problem where the general public were disgusted by it) so the one event that makes the most sense to remove, shouldn't be removed. hence we shouldn't remove 7x7, or 5BLD etc. I think it's absolutely stupid to suggest that we should remove an event with more competitors than clock. Even though 6x6, 7x7, and 5BLD might be a little similar to other events, they were introduced to the WCA early on and removing them would basically just be a complete kick in the balls for people who now practice them and like them. Also can I mention that 5BLD introduces +-centers into the solve and they have to be solved a little differently with different commutators. also the only competitions where clock is almost mandatory to be held is Championships and big events. the big events tend to have a LOT of time with strict cutoffs especially for clock so no problem there. Championships also deal with it okay. Any talk of removing events is honestly gonna end in disaster, we should add events like FTO. I believe the WCA has room for about 2 new events. Also have you ever even watched advanced 4BLD solves? It is honestly so satisfying to watch. any argument to remove an event because it's not a spectator friendly event is just a bad arguement. Would you rather a fun event that isn't spectator friendly (clock as an example) or a not fun event that is spectator friendly (possible Ghost cube might be an example because of how hard it is) Your argument about how we should remove 4/5 BLD because they are not exciting to watch are bad, because with that logic MBLD should go straight out the window. (it can be up to like 50 mins of memo lol and it's just 3x3 BLD over and over again)
Super late, but I have this great idea: 3x3 no inspection. It's like 3bld, but not blind. You start the timer, then take off the cube cover and solve normally. This would make 3x3 interesting again, as I feel the pros are now one-looking f2l, and ll is just easy to recognize.
@@looperover Go to the SpeedSolving forum and go to the weekly conpetition. There are scrambles there. And if you dig around in the forums, you'll find entire threads about it :)
Would be very sad if 5x5 were not an event. 6x6 and 7x7 are a bit much though. I think master pyraminx, maybe even professor pyra at this point, FTO and master FTO. Adding some cuboids could be cool, and helicopter cube. There's so many good puzzles out there. Most aren't really speed cube ready, but also adding events to WCA allow speed cubes to be made to meet the demand
My thoughts I think team blind is fun but hard to organize Mirror blocks has way to many versions Don’t remove 4x4 and 5x5 lol Void cube is going to be like ‘lock lock’ 1x1 is impossible I think tier 2 is a good idea. Magic, we forgot about. Fto hardware is bad but popular
This isn’t an event but they should introduce multiblind average if they have enough time Make a mean of three for: The amount of cubes solved The amount of cubes submitted The amount of time taken For example: 7/10 56:09 6/9 42:20 10/11 59:59 Mean without rounding: 7.66/10 52:49.33 Final result: 8/10 52:49 The single will still be more important though but this is a good idea!
I dont fully agree with your thoughts... even the methodes on 5x5-7x7 are the same, the feeling to hold and complete the cube is a different one. A 7x7 still is spectator friendly, bc a pro 7x7 competetor will not take over 5 minutes on a 7x7. (even tho an interested spectator would spend the 5 minutes) 6x6 is lucky at some points but in the end the ability to spot pieces on big cubes gets worser the bigger the cube is. And thats why a 7x7 is something different than a 5x5 or a 6x6.
The feels of those events are obviously different, but since the methods themselves are way too similar I think they're too similar, which is also shown by similar rankings in those events. Also, I'm sure many people enjoy watching big cubes but the majority of people I don't think do (people are much more likely to watch a full 3x3 WR than a 7x7 WR video)
@@CubeMasterYT In generell ypur right but opinions are different and I love 7x7, even tho im not good at it. 😂 If I could ban an event it would be clock bc of the obvious reasons you said in the video: not a twisty puzzle, most spectator unfriendly event... still hope, that the wca is adding more events, bc I dont like a lot of them but I would enjoy other events like mirror blocks... have a nice day 😉
BRUH WHY DOES EVERYONE HATE CLOCK SO MUCH ITS A GOOD EVENT LIKE IF YOU DONT LIKE IT JUST DONT COMPETE BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE IT SO YOU SHOULD NOT REMOVE IT@@blizzzey6477
If they remove the wca events there will not be any more wrs tho coz if you remove the harder events or the events that take longer the WRs are gonna be the same at one point and wont ever be broker for many years.
7:31 disagree. As a beginner, 4 and 5 were my favorites! They were simple enough to pick up and learn, and felt completely different. Low cutoffs made me switch to maining pyra (now I main 4 again), because my 2:30s on 4 and 5:15s on 5 meant I got 2 solves per competition.
I agree with some points made here, however I don’t think any events should be removed. I don’t like clock personally, and don’t think it should have ever been added. However I realize that there is a community behind the event and it should not be removed. I personally love big cubes (especially 6 and 7) and would hate to see them go. I can see the point in tier 2 events, but all current events should stay tier 1. Team blind is a good idea in theory, however 2 good bld solvers could just teach each other their bld method. They would 1 look in inspection and destroy everyone with 7-8 second solves. Your point about redi cube being too intuitive can just as easily be applied to pyra, skewb, and 2x2. I think it would be a good event to add
For 6x6/7x7 the centres are distinct enough for me to consider it worth keeping both maybe you don't agree because you just make bars execlusicely. Clock is the only event I can see being removed to be honest. The argument to remove 5BLD 6 and 7 can also be applied to OH but not one wants OH to go. I don't think any event needs removal. The spectator friendly events are not 2x2, Pyraminx and Skewb. They are too short. You can't see what is going on. Honestly just being told the times as the happen without watching is the same experience. The shortest length where it is not too short is Square 1 and 3x3. There is a point where an event is too long to be spectator friendly but that varies. What about FMC? If we focus on spectators the event will have to go but it is very unique. All events are repeative to some degree the short events are the worst. They have 2 steps. Sq1 is all algs so that is too, but you are baised about that. For new events FTO is the only viable suggestion I have seen. No more short events should be added we have enough short event for the kiddies. For team events I honestly think team BLD is shit. It hard for me to explain but I think the way it would devolop would make it boring to do and watch and result in a event that isn't distinct. The calling system would be standardised meaning it a blindfolded person hearing a cross solution and then 6 words for f2l oll and pll cases. This would not be interesting to watch. It would only be about as distinct as OH which already uses the same method as 3x3 speedsolving just with a slightly different approach to ll. I think team BLD has a place as a fun unofficial thing to do with friends. Also how would you deal with NRs? I would say you would have to have people from the same countries competing together or else the records get messy. Which could be a little unfair on someone who is the only person from their country completing. Relays could work. Athletics(track and field for the Americans) is a sport to look at to model cubing after for spectators. Cubing isn't a team "sport" is an individual the only good to team events are Nations cup type of events. Lastly new formats need to be fairly simple. People suggest 3bld should change from bo3 and the mbld scoring system should change. But the simplicity of these is a benefit. Non cubers can understand it easily we don't want to lose that. PS Ivy is a even worse idea than 2bld it only has 30000 scrambles so a repeats are common and God's number is 8.
Hello! Thanks for leaving your opinions. For 6/7 and 5BLD, I have done all of the events a lot, and don't just do bars lol so I do know that each of those do introduce new centers. However, the methods are pretty much the exact same, and they are the events that have the most similarities compared to any other events the WCA. I think small events are good because they are much closer and are quicker to watch, not really because you see what they're doing (which I don't think is completely necessary). For team events, I think it brings in something very unique into the WCA that most people would be really happy with. I get that there are some good points with some problems with it, but still think if that can be worked around it would still be great to watch and even better to compete in. For formats, I don't quite mean different scoring systems, but rather things like head to head which I think would create a better spectator sport :)
I think with the new Clock puzzle, we should at least have some time to break the records of new people to enjoy it. But if the general consensus stays the same, then it's sure to go eventually
i agree with removing 5bld, and adding kilominx, but i think events like clock and big cubes should stay, clock for its uniqueness, and big cubes because it encourages newer cubers/competitors to try more complex things.
4bld and 5bld are pretty much the same, I agree, but very different from 3bld, so I'd keep at least 4bld (it's also one of my favourite events so I'm a bit biased): memo isn't too long, and it's exciting to see the execution. Mbld same thing, watching the execution is great (of course no one watches full memo). I agree on what you said about clock (no one sees what's going on), but it's a unique tps event, funny to practice in my opinion. I disagree on 6x6 and 7x7, they're not similar to 5x5, centers are much more creative. Maybe I'd remove 7x7, but 6x6 in my opinion should definitely stay. I don't do fmc, it's the least spectator friendly event, but I underatand why it's there, so I'll keep it for people who enjoy doing it. I won't add any event for bigger or lower puzzles already in (so no master pyra, skewb, no kilominx, no square 2 or anything else similar), in my opinion big cubes are worth only for nxn (which are kinda the main twisty puzzles). I'd add instead popular non wca puzzles such as redi cube, 2x2x3 maybe, maybe some more shape shifting puzzles (but not 3x3 shape modes, just puzzles with different mechanism). Fto could be nice as well.
@@CubeMasterYT team relay could be funny, I'd love them. Relays done by a single person no, too long as you said (and it would just be another event where Max would dominate every one else)
i like the tier 2 event idea, but i think 6, 7, and 5 bld should def stay tier 1. I think 8, 9, 6 bld, and 7 bld should be tier 2 events. I think maybe a 4 mbld could be interesting but idk if it should really be added. I like the idea of 2 bld because it would be a good intro blind event for newer cubers but if you’re cracked at 2x2 you could just one look it so definitely tier 2 event, however a more common one bc it’s just quick. I think bumping clock to tier 2 makes sense. Idk about the team stuff I feel like it’s good community building but just kinda exists outside the nature of cubing and should stay just as a for fun event not even tier 2. For 3x3 and maybe some other events the 1v1 is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Cube Master I know I was just a little angry about you saying big cubes should go. I love big cubes and I don’t really want them to take away squan I enjoy it a little.
For the big cubes I dont think spectators can be able to see the cube when solving because usually cubers solves it under table Yes I agree that clock is a very troublesome events for organisers but I dont think that wca should removed it there are large populations of cubers doing clock events even and it is the simplest event in wca which doesnt required any algorithms but only logics to solve it it is kind of an interessting events and also now many companies making better clock in the market.
i feel like the wca should remove clock because it doesn't really fit with the others and maybe sq1 due to its lack of popularity compared to others like 4x4 but maybe they should add the unnoficial events (redi cube mirror kilominx) to the official events. also 2x2/4x4 OH seems fitting. 2x2 blind probably shouldnt be added because lots of people are gonna be doing it too quickly, and maybe 4x4 multi blind.
I think 5x5 shouldn't be removed or even considered. The methods between 4x4 and 5x5 are the same, but some steps diversify. 5x5 is even better than 4x4.
the only reason I would like mirror blocks added (or a blind cube maybe?) in the WCA is for blind people to be able to compete, which would bring cubing to even more people! sq-2 would be cool also
Well technically blind people can solve in the WCA, if you read the regulations you can see that they have a section that explains if you are blind you're allowed to have texture for each side as long as they also have colors so the judge can verify that the cube is solved without struggling with it Although I do think it would be nice to have mirror blocks as an event as it would also give blind people another event to look forward to, and although it's basically the same as 3x3 the solve does feel a bit more challenging and it would be fun to compete in
Tbh square 1 is the best event because it’s a great event to spectate you can tell when steps happen it’s fast and really interesting to watch, it’s got great hardware it’s just the best I mean it’s not my favorite but it’s a perfect event I feel.
should add kilominx, 2x2 and 3x3 mirror cube, 2x2 blind, 2x2, 4x4, 5x5 multiblind and all 3x3 side events like fewest moves and one handed solving have a 2x2, 4x4, 5x5, 6x6, 7x7
Why mirrors? Those are just the normal 2x2 and 3x3. 2x2 blind is just what they do, they solve a 2x2 1 look now. Have you ever tried a 4x4 one hand? 7x7 one hand would be so bad and long. Remember, the timers turn off after 10 minutes
I understand clock, but I still do not think it should be removed even if it isn't spectator friendly, it is still very fun and one of the most unique events. The only other event that is worst (or would be) for spectators would be FMC, which I do not hate.
Tbh some people wanna remove events and hate events they don't do. I used to hate clock but now I find it decently fun. With that saying, I hate skewb.
the reason i dont think FTO should be added is the lack of accesibility. theres barely any FTO producers that arent vintage. it would be interesting if moyu or qiyi made an FTO
whats the point of removing events, like if u don't like it js don't do it imo. and like ion think the arg abt screwing up the schedule is valid, like any event can do that and u can organize to make sure that doesn't happen with like stricter cutoffs. and worlds and major finals are more entertaining with more events, opening up wca live to see the results in 17 diff finals is definitely pretty cool. also clock, i think clock is a rlly good event for many reasons. 1)the barrier to entry is rlly low, like 2 or pyra, very very easy to solve and make cutoff (usually) 2) The skillset required is very diff from other events, skills from clock arent transferable. So podiums and stuff are really unexpected, caleb isn't even like sub 15 on 3x3 but is rlly rlly good at clock. this motivates a lot of ppl who may not think they can be world/national class in other events but maybe they can in clock 3) Even world class people don't know any algs u don't need to learn anything much to be good
I agree to this video 100 % and feet should be added True if events are events are removed people will become sad for eg I was very good in feet and it got removed and I became sad...... And events like 4 5 6 7 their are the same in my opion 6 and 7 should be removed and 5 bld also block for sure because they are boring to watch but 4 bld and mbld us nice Events like squan ,pyra , skewb , and mega are nice becuase they are short and spectator friendly ... Finally I want to say that wca should add some more events which are more spectator friendly.
Here’s what the wca should remove in my opinion: 7x7, it’s just 5x5 but bigger Clock: it’s hard to organize and it’s not a good spectator event. Also it’s not a cube or geometric themed in any way. Feet: it’s disgusting and not really fun to watch Reasons some things should stay: 6x6 is a way harder version of 5x5 which means it’s more competitive. Its not that long and you really need only one long event. What to add: Kilominx it’s a good puzzle, it fits, it’s not to long or short, it’s in a good speed like 3x3 or squan where it’s not stupidly short like 2x2 pyra or skewb and it’s not really long like 5x5 or 6x6. Master Pyraminx a harder longer Pyraminx I imagine it will take as long as maybe squan but I’m not sure Relays, team solves, team blind, and nations cup or something similar. They are really popular and it it’s fun to watch. Just imagine max park, Lucas etter, and Patrick ponce vs feliks zemdegs, Jayden McNeil,
This isn’t a good idea since it would be dominated but blind solvers. Being a top 3x3 solver somewhat translates to being a good oh solver but neither can help with some of the specific skill needed for blind folded. Most, nearly all i think, blindfold solvers are also “decent” at 3x3 and OH. I can imagine a 5/9/50 and 12/23/21 times. Plus relays are kinda long to do and to organize and i think the next WCA events are gonna 3x3 to mid tier sized event.
I understand your opinion, yes big cubes are repetitive, and big blind should be removed, but big cubes should stay, as by the logic you used, 3x3 is repetitive, square-1 is repetitive, everything is. But clock should go, and kibiminx be added in
Have fun for yourself and stop thinking you need to prove yourself. We go to comps to have fun and meet people, not to shit on every event and criticize everyone. You don't go to a comp to impress people unless you are desperate for attention.
One event you didn’t mention that I’d bet you’ll agree with being remove is 3x3 fewest moves. Very boring to watch as a spectator Edit: I got to the part of the video where you mentioned FMC not being added which sounds like the same thing. My bad
@@CubeMasterYT Do you mean that both of the teammates will get the same ranking? I mean global ranking. Also how should NRs and CRs work if people from different countries will be in one team?
Frankly the one I want added the most is 2x2x3 bc it has an interesting speed solving method and if there was a good quality one on the market, I would love to practice more.
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The only reason beginners do the quick events is that the time limits are always too harsh for slower events. Allow 2 minutes for square or 3 minutes for 4x4 and you'll have plenty of participants.
The competition will take way too long
what’s the average cutoff for 4x4?
Usually around 1:20
@@josephdanforth4830 which in my eyes is unacceptable. 4x4 is one of the first events beginners learn, the cutoff should be 2:00, and the time limit 3:30.
@@DevonianMappingthe cutoff should definitely be around 1:20 because you can get to 1:20 ish in like a month if you are sub 20 on 3x3 (which is easy)
No one's going to watch a whole multi blind attempt either but every event doesn't have to be for the spectators
Same with fmc, it’s so much fun to do but not at all a spectator event
I think the wca shouldn't remove events they should add events
Also agree! Which is why I think having tier 2 events and bringing back feet is fine as a middle ground. While some events are too repetitive and not as good as a fit in the WCA in my opinion, I still think its important to recognize those who practiced the events in some way.
Cube Master 20 events should be the max
Ya
I like 5 by 5 and 7 by 7
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I don't think people should care about spectator friendly events, at least at my country we are a small community and we compete because we like it and basically every competition is about the competition. BLD events are entertaining to those who like it and the fact that events are similar shouldn't be a factor and challenging on their own. Big events as well, it's only your opinion and if you don't like its fine they are similar but all completely different. Probably if you tried to get good at big cubes you can understand it's not just more pieces and only get good at one and become better at the rest. For us who do most events know the process of improvement and their own uniqueness. Again I don't think we do it for the spectators, we do it for our selves and that should be enough.
Your tier events concept is completely uselless, organizers already chose what type of competition they are doing and you don't want to compete on a event then just don't pick it. That's why there are competitions like FMC Americas, the competitions with BLD events, and competitions based on the area where it would be held.
Yeah i dont like it when people say clock dont belong people practice these events and dedicate themselfs to getting good like 3x3 if it were to get removed people like me would get devastated we all love clock we even have a group chat for clock remember when feet was removed people alot of people disaproved of it and thats gonna happen again
Exactly what I want to say
Smh the memorization technique for 4BLD and 5BLD can be very different and removing then makes platinum extra easy and hence makes such achievements less prestigious
platinum?
@@Hermanator1124 a completed pofile, single and mean in every event
@@cheeseboi8769 ay thanks bro, i still didn't know after a year. Have a nice day :)
Besides clock, I think every event has it's place in the WCA.
You have to remember that even though the competitions are moving towards spectator-friendliness, and being a "spectator sport", but you have to remember that a lot of the competition is also for the competitors themselves, and the interest of those who appreciate puzzles for the theory and what makes them a puzzle. You can't forget that it's not all for the cameras and for the ones watching.
And honestly, if we remove those longer events and make it mainly focused around events that take less than 5 seconds or so, we have effectively made the equivalent of a cupstacking competition.
I think cup stacking is very different in that it's the same relative pattern every time, but even smaller cubes like 2x2 have very unique solutions. I understand the WCA not being fully a spectator sport, but I think that would be a great future for cubing for a bigger audience and more sponsors. My argument isn't really for small events but more for larger events, I think medium length events are still good for the sport :)
@@CubeMasterYT That's fair. I understand that then.
What about fmc it is a terrible spectator sport
@@cubingforfun3191FMC should be one of those reality game shows
BRUH WHY DOES EVERYONE HATE CLOCK SO MUCH ITS A GOOD EVENT LIKE IF YOU DONT LIKE IT JUST DONT COMPETE BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE IT SO YOU SHOULD NOT REMOVE IT
people try to remove events without properly trying them and given them a real go like clock for example i wanted it removed without even trying it because of youtubers always using it at the but of the joke. I tried it and its one of my favourite events
Let’s all make sure Sam never gets a job in any wca committee
Why :'( Think my arguments are pretty valid
@@CubeMasterYT what you dont consider is people still practice these events want to get wrs in it
And want to compete in the world champion ship or nats
Cube Master idk I just fully disagree on everything you said tbh
@@CubeMasterYT Why do you hate on Big cubes and clock?
Most of the time, people dont rlly watch others solve, they just practice whatever event is next while waiting.
I'm sorry, but I believe that you are totally wrong on the big cubes and big blind. And repetitive does now matter. And you should not remove an event just because other people are so far ahead of others
In my opinion, repetitiveness matters a lot since I think the WCA would do better with more diversity, which is the reason why stuff like 8x8+, and Kilominx are not events currently. As for your second point, I agree that is true however my argument is that rankings are too similar because of events being to similar, so someone dominating an event is ok but not rankings being the same for several events in my opinion, just because the events are so similar in how they work. Just my opinion though :)
@@CubeMasterYT Ok, I was glad that not anybody else replied because that would have started this whole war.
I think this video itself already started a war lmao, oops
@@CubeMasterYT Just let clock stay, and make cube covers bigger.
@@CubeMasterYT How is FMC spectator friendly?
actually, we shouldnt remove any events because there is always people that like the events that you want removed
I agree i also love clock and i want to get into big blind
@@speedcubingaccount4121 i could never do any blind in a million years but i like to watch it and i think its cool
Yeah let people enjoy their favorite events, people care too much about money and fame smh
@@tuneboyz5634 cube master? He just thinks that people dont like watching clock
@@speedcubingaccount4121why remove it? his argument is pretty stupid since the only event "spectator" (Non cubers) Friendly is 3x3.
Summary of this video “everything except 3x3 and Sq1 is a bad event because it’s repetitive and screws up the schedule”
I think that before someone develops an opinion on these things, they should practice that event for a good amount of time. I think just saying to remove events because just one person is the best is invalidating the effort that the record holders put towards these events.
In my opinion, while I do have biases, you don't need to do an event so much to have an opinion on the event, since I'm judging them not on how much I like them but rather how much they fit (for example, I'm not a fan of 2x2, skewb, and FMC but think they still have a place in the WCA). Also sorry about being unclear in the video, but I think people dominating events is not a problem but more of events being so similar that dominating at one easily makes you the best at the other. Just my opinion though :)
my ideal list of future wca events:
---NxN---
3x3
2x2
4x4
5x5
6x6
7x7
---NxN SPINOFFS---
OH
Feet
FMC
3BLD
MBLD
4BLD
5BLD
---NICHE PUZZLES---
Megaminx
Pyraminx
Skewb
Square-1
Clock
FTO
All Events
all events should be added because its like the most impressiive looking one up there with mbld, and there are a lot of all rounders and records could happen all the time because no one is top class at all events
fmc can be not optimal as long as its less than 80 moves and you're doing it fast
mbld should just be 2 cubes, remember all events is about speed
The Cubing Dufus but it gets rid of the difficulty level which is meant to be with mbld
if 5bld gets removed someone's kneecaps are getting removed
word
Make it mine (not)
Make it mine (not)
I think tier 2 events should be less common in local comps but they definitely should have them at nats and worlds
Very late but I disagree with most things said in the video. We definitely shouldn’t remove events because of the people who enjoy those events and put time and practice into them and the event tier system seems cool but I think we just need to accept that cubing is and always will be a niche hobby so making cubing competitions interesting for outsiders isn’t realistic.
Same
I just learnt clock and I'm really enjoying it
Yes, it will be fun. I dunno why people hate it. Just like people hate EZ Cubing for no reason.😭😭
Any new event is fun
Do you still enjoy it
@@josepharchibald7107 yeah I haven't been practising clock much recently but I still think its a pretty fun puzzle
Its a really fun puzzle, I think it just isnt good as an event because it isnt spectator friendly and has the special covers like he said in the video. I still like solving it
Bro big cubes are literally like the best wca events behind like 3x3. Big blind sorta makes sense but I don’t really care cuz I don’t do blind so I don’t know how repetitive but keep big cubes fr
Maybe host events for certain puzzles, not for a competition, but to officially log times in a leader board
About redi cube.
Redi is intuitive, but unlike clock, there is place for development of your solves.
I personally use 3 methods depending on scramble.
1st method: LBL - intuitive method.
Step 1: First Layer
Step 2: Pairs (solve F2L edges and orient top corners)
Step 3: ELL (not just sledges, a bit harder - there are simple algs for Z and H perms. Pretty intuitive tho)
2nd method: TAL (Two Adjacent Layers)
Step 1: First Layer
Step 2: Adjacent Layer (solve 2 pairs + edge in between)
Step 3: L5E (you orient last 2 corners with 2 moves and do one alg for l5e)
3rd method: Top First (yep, strange, I dont use it often, but its kinda fun)
1st step: Top (1 corner, 3 neighbouring edges, and 3 neighbouring to them corners)
2nd step: TL (Two Layers) - use this top to solve two layers like after the 2nd step of TAL
3rd step: L5E (same as TAL)
And there of course could be more room for improvement - some things with tons of algs like ZB in 3x3. And in clock there can be no algs at all.
Agree that Redi Cube is a better addition than Clock, however it's too intuitive I think to be an event. Thanks for letting me know about the methods of it, wasn't too aware there are more approaches than I thought!
Yes, some comps held Redi as an unofficial event and it turned out ok
@@ifrog751 huh, I held redi on my comps as well
Nikita Popkov how did it go?
@@ifrog751 pretty nice
Honestly I think clock should stay. in my opinion clock is very spectator friendly because One its very fast, and Two for what you said about people not being able to see whats going on, that adds a factor of intensity because spectators know someone will finish any second and they dont know who it will be.
Also, you said scrambles take forever, but they are acually really fast because you scramble in a pin order that stays the same every single scamble. i personally scramble clock in under 20 seconds and I dont practice it much
By the way you dont need 3D print cube covers just litterally use anything big enough to cover it thats easy to take off
anyways, to end, I enjoy clock, and i dont think it should be removed
yes this is SO true
*DISCLAIMER*
You will get offended this video
I know people hate clock, but it’s truly one of my favorite events. I’ll be sad when it goes.
About what you said about removing big cubes, why not just take out 6x6 and 7x7? If your problem is that they are all the same, you can just remove almost every big cube. Also, 5x5 is very spectator friendly and doesn’t take too long. So I don’t think it makes sense to remove ALLLLL the big cubes
EDIT: I see now that later on in the video you say they shouldn't be removed and should be tiered instead, but to be fair you didn't make it clear at all that you didn't want them removed in the first 11 mins of the video lmfao
One thing which I highly disagree with is the sentence: "the events that need to go are..." we do not need to remove more events. Feet made sense, but Clock is having better hardware now and also more people practice it. it is also not looked down upon by non speedcubers, (feet had this problem where the general public were disgusted by it) so the one event that makes the most sense to remove, shouldn't be removed. hence we shouldn't remove 7x7, or 5BLD etc. I think it's absolutely stupid to suggest that we should remove an event with more competitors than clock. Even though 6x6, 7x7, and 5BLD might be a little similar to other events, they were introduced to the WCA early on and removing them would basically just be a complete kick in the balls for people who now practice them and like them. Also can I mention that 5BLD introduces +-centers into the solve and they have to be solved a little differently with different commutators. also the only competitions where clock is almost mandatory to be held is Championships and big events. the big events tend to have a LOT of time with strict cutoffs especially for clock so no problem there. Championships also deal with it okay.
Any talk of removing events is honestly gonna end in disaster, we should add events like FTO. I believe the WCA has room for about 2 new events. Also have you ever even watched advanced 4BLD solves? It is honestly so satisfying to watch. any argument to remove an event because it's not a spectator friendly event is just a bad arguement. Would you rather a fun event that isn't spectator friendly (clock as an example) or a not fun event that is spectator friendly (possible Ghost cube might be an example because of how hard it is)
Your argument about how we should remove 4/5 BLD because they are not exciting to watch are bad, because with that logic MBLD should go straight out the window. (it can be up to like 50 mins of memo lol and it's just 3x3 BLD over and over again)
Super late, but I have this great idea: 3x3 no inspection. It's like 3bld, but not blind. You start the timer, then take off the cube cover and solve normally. This would make 3x3 interesting again, as I feel the pros are now one-looking f2l, and ll is just easy to recognize.
Interesting idea, makes it more fair for my sort who cant look ahead
@@sanderpiek8216yes
that already existed bewfore but got removed
“People designing cube covers specifically for one event is stupid”
He says, while solving a Squan.
Curvy Copter for WCA, I will accept no criticism 💅✨
Zachary Trudell how will scrambling work lol
@@looperover Go to the SpeedSolving forum and go to the weekly conpetition. There are scrambles there. And if you dig around in the forums, you'll find entire threads about it :)
@@zacharytrudell2411 where is the link to the scrambles? i cant find it
Would be very sad if 5x5 were not an event. 6x6 and 7x7 are a bit much though. I think master pyraminx, maybe even professor pyra at this point, FTO and master FTO. Adding some cuboids could be cool, and helicopter cube. There's so many good puzzles out there. Most aren't really speed cube ready, but also adding events to WCA allow speed cubes to be made to meet the demand
My thoughts
I think team blind is fun but hard to organize
Mirror blocks has way to many versions
Don’t remove 4x4 and 5x5 lol
Void cube is going to be like ‘lock lock’
1x1 is impossible
I think tier 2 is a good idea.
Magic, we forgot about.
Fto hardware is bad but popular
4multibld lmao
why is TBLD hard? like if your signing up for it at a competiton just put the name of your partner
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This isn’t an event but they should introduce multiblind average if they have enough time
Make a mean of three for:
The amount of cubes solved
The amount of cubes submitted
The amount of time taken
For example:
7/10 56:09
6/9 42:20
10/11 59:59
Mean without rounding:
7.66/10 52:49.33
Final result:
8/10 52:49
The single will still be more important though but this is a good idea!
A very good idea of mine. Just be Jayden McNeill and do every event.😂😂
We also 3D print square-1 covers and for clock we can pretty much tell how quick someone is going by their flip split
I dont fully agree with your thoughts... even the methodes on 5x5-7x7 are the same, the feeling to hold and complete the cube is a different one. A 7x7 still is spectator friendly, bc a pro 7x7 competetor will not take over 5 minutes on a 7x7. (even tho an interested spectator would spend the 5 minutes) 6x6 is lucky at some points but in the end the ability to spot pieces on big cubes gets worser the bigger the cube is. And thats why a 7x7 is something different than a 5x5 or a 6x6.
The feels of those events are obviously different, but since the methods themselves are way too similar I think they're too similar, which is also shown by similar rankings in those events. Also, I'm sure many people enjoy watching big cubes but the majority of people I don't think do (people are much more likely to watch a full 3x3 WR than a 7x7 WR video)
@@CubeMasterYT In generell ypur right but opinions are different and I love 7x7, even tho im not good at it. 😂 If I could ban an event it would be clock bc of the obvious reasons you said in the video: not a twisty puzzle, most spectator unfriendly event...
still hope, that the wca is adding more events, bc I dont like a lot of them but I would enjoy other events like mirror blocks...
have a nice day 😉
BRUH WHY DOES EVERYONE HATE CLOCK SO MUCH ITS A GOOD EVENT LIKE IF YOU DONT LIKE IT JUST DONT COMPETE BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE IT SO YOU SHOULD NOT REMOVE IT@@blizzzey6477
I genuinely would like gigaminx added
i think thats way longer than WCA-events should be
Hello! Nice video I only have one question. What is FTL?
Its FTO, Face Turning Octahedron. Now the DianSheng Galaxy Cluster M
Please don't remove like,half of the wca events and many people like big cubes.
If they remove the wca events there will not be any more wrs tho coz if you remove the harder events or the events that take longer the WRs are gonna be the same at one point and wont ever be broker for many years.
i would wish me one or two shape cubes like sq1
I dont think all events have to spectator friendly cus those events can be held in another room
7:31 disagree. As a beginner, 4 and 5 were my favorites! They were simple enough to pick up and learn, and felt completely different. Low cutoffs made me switch to maining pyra (now I main 4 again), because my 2:30s on 4 and 5:15s on 5 meant I got 2 solves per competition.
Stanley do be crying watching this
I agree with some points made here, however I don’t think any events should be removed. I don’t like clock personally, and don’t think it should have ever been added. However I realize that there is a community behind the event and it should not be removed. I personally love big cubes (especially 6 and 7) and would hate to see them go. I can see the point in tier 2 events, but all current events should stay tier 1. Team blind is a good idea in theory, however 2 good bld solvers could just teach each other their bld method. They would 1 look in inspection and destroy everyone with 7-8 second solves. Your point about redi cube being too intuitive can just as easily be applied to pyra, skewb, and 2x2. I think it would be a good event to add
For 6x6/7x7 the centres are distinct enough for me to consider it worth keeping both maybe you don't agree because you just make bars execlusicely. Clock is the only event I can see being removed to be honest. The argument to remove 5BLD 6 and 7 can also be applied to OH but not one wants OH to go. I don't think any event needs removal.
The spectator friendly events are not 2x2, Pyraminx and Skewb. They are too short. You can't see what is going on. Honestly just being told the times as the happen without watching is the same experience. The shortest length where it is not too short is Square 1 and 3x3. There is a point where an event is too long to be spectator friendly but that varies. What about FMC? If we focus on spectators the event will have to go but it is very unique. All events are repeative to some degree the short events are the worst. They have 2 steps. Sq1 is all algs so that is too, but you are baised about that.
For new events FTO is the only viable suggestion I have seen. No more short events should be added we have enough short event for the kiddies.
For team events I honestly think team BLD is shit. It hard for me to explain but I think the way it would devolop would make it boring to do and watch and result in a event that isn't distinct. The calling system would be standardised meaning it a blindfolded person hearing a cross solution and then 6 words for f2l oll and pll cases. This would not be interesting to watch. It would only be about as distinct as OH which already uses the same method as 3x3 speedsolving just with a slightly different approach to ll.
I think team BLD has a place as a fun unofficial thing to do with friends. Also how would you deal with NRs? I would say you would have to have people from the same countries competing together or else the records get messy. Which could be a little unfair on someone who is the only person from their country completing. Relays could work.
Athletics(track and field for the Americans) is a sport to look at to model cubing after for spectators. Cubing isn't a team "sport" is an individual the only good to team events are Nations cup type of events.
Lastly new formats need to be fairly simple. People suggest 3bld should change from bo3 and the mbld scoring system should change. But the simplicity of these is a benefit. Non cubers can understand it easily we don't want to lose that.
PS Ivy is a even worse idea than 2bld it only has 30000 scrambles so a repeats are common and God's number is 8.
Hello! Thanks for leaving your opinions. For 6/7 and 5BLD, I have done all of the events a lot, and don't just do bars lol so I do know that each of those do introduce new centers. However, the methods are pretty much the exact same, and they are the events that have the most similarities compared to any other events the WCA. I think small events are good because they are much closer and are quicker to watch, not really because you see what they're doing (which I don't think is completely necessary). For team events, I think it brings in something very unique into the WCA that most people would be really happy with. I get that there are some good points with some problems with it, but still think if that can be worked around it would still be great to watch and even better to compete in. For formats, I don't quite mean different scoring systems, but rather things like head to head which I think would create a better spectator sport :)
I think with the new Clock puzzle, we should at least have some time to break the records of new people to enjoy it.
But if the general consensus stays the same, then it's sure to go eventually
i agree with removing 5bld, and adding kilominx, but i think events like clock and big cubes should stay, clock for its uniqueness, and big cubes because it encourages newer cubers/competitors to try more complex things.
what is FTO?
Face turning octahedron. An eight sided puzzle
4bld and 5bld are pretty much the same, I agree, but very different from 3bld, so I'd keep at least 4bld (it's also one of my favourite events so I'm a bit biased): memo isn't too long, and it's exciting to see the execution. Mbld same thing, watching the execution is great (of course no one watches full memo). I agree on what you said about clock (no one sees what's going on), but it's a unique tps event, funny to practice in my opinion. I disagree on 6x6 and 7x7, they're not similar to 5x5, centers are much more creative. Maybe I'd remove 7x7, but 6x6 in my opinion should definitely stay. I don't do fmc, it's the least spectator friendly event, but I underatand why it's there, so I'll keep it for people who enjoy doing it.
I won't add any event for bigger or lower puzzles already in (so no master pyra, skewb, no kilominx, no square 2 or anything else similar), in my opinion big cubes are worth only for nxn (which are kinda the main twisty puzzles). I'd add instead popular non wca puzzles such as redi cube, 2x2x3 maybe, maybe some more shape shifting puzzles (but not 3x3 shape modes, just puzzles with different mechanism). Fto could be nice as well.
Interesting, thoughts on team events like relays?
@@CubeMasterYT team relay could be funny, I'd love them. Relays done by a single person no, too long as you said (and it would just be another event where Max would dominate every one else)
i like the tier 2 event idea, but i think 6, 7, and 5 bld should def stay tier 1. I think 8, 9, 6 bld, and 7 bld should be tier 2 events. I think maybe a 4 mbld could be interesting but idk if it should really be added. I like the idea of 2 bld because it would be a good intro blind event for newer cubers but if you’re cracked at 2x2 you could just one look it so definitely tier 2 event, however a more common one bc it’s just quick. I think bumping clock to tier 2 makes sense. Idk about the team stuff I feel like it’s good community building but just kinda exists outside the nature of cubing and should stay just as a for fun event not even tier 2. For 3x3 and maybe some other events the 1v1 is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
All NxN cubes are staying!!! I say get rid of crappy square 1.
NxNs staying makes sense but I think Square-1 definitely has enough popularity to stay
Cube Master I know I was just a little angry about you saying big cubes should go. I love big cubes and I don’t really want them to take away squan I enjoy it a little.
Haha all good :)
Square 1 is fun
@@CubeMasterYT clock too
For the big cubes I dont think spectators can be able to see the cube when solving because usually cubers solves it under table Yes I agree that clock is a very troublesome events for organisers but I dont think that wca should removed it there are large populations of cubers doing clock events even and it is the simplest event in wca which doesnt required any algorithms but only logics to solve it it is kind of an interessting events and also now many companies making better clock in the market.
i feel like the wca should remove clock because it doesn't really fit with the others and maybe sq1 due to its lack of popularity compared to others like 4x4 but maybe they should add the unnoficial events (redi cube mirror kilominx) to the official events. also 2x2/4x4 OH seems fitting. 2x2 blind probably shouldnt be added because lots of people are gonna be doing it too quickly, and maybe 4x4 multi blind.
clock is good
I am sorry but I want to say that team blind and nations cup should not be added because .How will wca add it to our wca profiles
But they can keep it as a fun event
22:45 but if my friend doesn't come to a comp then ?
I think up to 6x6 is what i want to keep but 7x7 is to long in my option
I feel like they might drop 7x7 or 5BLD, but I would love to see them add kilominx. If it is an official event, the hardware will quickly improve
I hope they will not remove any events .
Part of the problem with ivy cube is it’s just a pyraminx shape mod
I think 5x5 shouldn't be removed or even considered. The methods between 4x4 and 5x5 are the same, but some steps diversify. 5x5 is even better than 4x4.
the only reason I would like mirror blocks added (or a blind cube maybe?) in the WCA is for blind people to be able to compete, which would bring cubing to even more people!
sq-2 would be cool also
Well technically blind people can solve in the WCA, if you read the regulations you can see that they have a section that explains if you are blind you're allowed to have texture for each side as long as they also have colors so the judge can verify that the cube is solved without struggling with it
Although I do think it would be nice to have mirror blocks as an event as it would also give blind people another event to look forward to, and although it's basically the same as 3x3 the solve does feel a bit more challenging and it would be fun to compete in
Tbh square 1 is the best event because it’s a great event to spectate you can tell when steps happen it’s fast and really interesting to watch, it’s got great hardware it’s just the best I mean it’s not my favorite but it’s a perfect event I feel.
should add kilominx, 2x2 and 3x3 mirror cube, 2x2 blind, 2x2, 4x4, 5x5 multiblind and all 3x3 side events like fewest moves and one handed solving have a 2x2, 4x4, 5x5, 6x6, 7x7
Why mirrors? Those are just the normal 2x2 and 3x3. 2x2 blind is just what they do, they solve a 2x2 1 look now. Have you ever tried a 4x4 one hand? 7x7 one hand would be so bad and long. Remember, the timers turn off after 10 minutes
@@balintgalambos691 that is the point, and also i dont know what i was saying a year ago
I understand clock, but I still do not think it should be removed even if it isn't spectator friendly, it is still very fun and one of the most unique events. The only other event that is worst (or would be) for spectators would be FMC, which I do not hate.
Tbh some people wanna remove events and hate events they don't do. I used to hate clock but now I find it decently fun. With that saying, I hate skewb.
22:00 "Fmc is a team event if you cheat"
the reason i dont think FTO should be added is the lack of accesibility. theres barely any FTO producers that arent vintage. it would be interesting if moyu or qiyi made an FTO
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Soooo? Now? Maybe? Pleeaase
@@balintgalambos691 since dayan and dian sheng are making FTOs now I support fto for wca
22:22 how can we be best friends for life if the comp is 6 hours away
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I thin) they should add 3x3 underwater
Thqt would cost hosts of competition lots of money
whats the point of removing events, like if u don't like it js don't do it imo. and like ion think the arg abt screwing up the schedule is valid, like any event can do that and u can organize to make sure that doesn't happen with like stricter cutoffs. and worlds and major finals are more entertaining with more events, opening up wca live to see the results in 17 diff finals is definitely pretty cool. also clock, i think clock is a rlly good event for many reasons. 1)the barrier to entry is rlly low, like 2 or pyra, very very easy to solve and make cutoff (usually) 2) The skillset required is very diff from other events, skills from clock arent transferable. So podiums and stuff are really unexpected, caleb isn't even like sub 15 on 3x3 but is rlly rlly good at clock. this motivates a lot of ppl who may not think they can be world/national class in other events but maybe they can in clock 3) Even world class people don't know any algs u don't need to learn anything much to be good
Mirror cube should be added because its not exactly like 3x3. Maybe you can't plan first or even cross bcause the shpe
kilominx squarr 2 and 0 fmc megaminx fmc square 1 4x4 to 7x7 one handed 4x4 5x5 megaminx 6 and 7 blind megaminx blind square 1 blind 2x2x3 fto mirror cube 8x8 9x9 10x10 ithink should be added to wca
#1x1forwca
It’s are job to do promote this so it reaches this to the wca
I would have the tied WR then. Good idea!
Batron Gordeg wow nice but it’s impossible
Can’t scramble can’t solve
*our
@@wild.capy- i know it, i was just kidding.
Batron Gordeg but i was to.....
Hey everyone, what event do YOU personally think should be in WCA, I personally think that the Windmill cube should be an event
add With Feet and OF
Also i think they will make a wca cube for competitors who wants to use it
How about rediminx?
OK, I only mentioned that because I finally solved the thing! :)
They should add blind mirror blocks with no inspection
Only way mirror comp makes sense
"Thats something that would happened more, if it happened more often"
- Cube Master 2020
If magic comes back the scrambled state shouldn't be the same every time
Get rid of Sq1, because sq1 solvers are pretentious haters, dissing other cubers favorite events.
What is your main cube at sq1?
The tier 2 event concept is very nice in my opinion
5bld its one of the best events why someone would want to remove it?
add 3x3 while juggling
@@lxwissk what no
I agree to this video 100 % and feet should be added
True if events are events are removed people will become sad for eg I was very good in feet and it got removed and I became sad......
And events like 4 5 6 7 their are the same in my opion 6 and 7 should be removed and 5 bld also block for sure because they are boring to watch but 4 bld and mbld us nice
Events like squan ,pyra , skewb , and mega are nice becuase they are short and spectator friendly ...
Finally I want to say that wca should add some more events which are more spectator friendly.
Here’s what the wca should remove in my opinion: 7x7, it’s just 5x5 but bigger
Clock: it’s hard to organize and it’s not a good spectator event. Also it’s not a cube or geometric themed in any way.
Feet: it’s disgusting and not really fun to watch
Reasons some things should stay:
6x6 is a way harder version of 5x5 which means it’s more competitive. Its not that long and you really need only one long event.
What to add:
Kilominx it’s a good puzzle, it fits, it’s not to long or short, it’s in a good speed like 3x3 or squan where it’s not stupidly short like 2x2 pyra or skewb and it’s not really long like 5x5 or 6x6.
Master Pyraminx a harder longer Pyraminx I imagine it will take as long as maybe squan but I’m not sure
Relays, team solves, team blind, and nations cup or something similar. They are really popular and it it’s fun to watch. Just imagine max park, Lucas etter, and Patrick ponce vs feliks zemdegs, Jayden McNeil,
Here’s what the wca should remove in my opinion:
2X2, it's just a 3x3 without edges.
What NOT to add:
Kilominx, it's just a megaminx but smaller
@@soliquid197 2x2 is sort of iconic and tbh the amount of algs and optimizations that have been made for it is kinda impressive.
bruh your clock arguements are stupid, cubing should be about competitors not spectators
I think 3x3/OH/3BLD relay would be cool.
This isn’t a good idea since it would be dominated but blind solvers. Being a top 3x3 solver somewhat translates to being a good oh solver but neither can help with some of the specific skill needed for blind folded. Most, nearly all i think, blindfold solvers are also “decent” at 3x3 and OH. I can imagine a 5/9/50 and 12/23/21 times. Plus relays are kinda long to do and to organize and i think the next WCA events are gonna 3x3 to mid tier sized event.
@@tarotsport1451 yeah that’s a rlly good point
I understand your opinion, yes big cubes are repetitive, and big blind should be removed, but big cubes should stay, as by the logic you used, 3x3 is repetitive, square-1 is repetitive, everything is. But clock should go, and kibiminx be added in
clock is good, your crazy bro
What is FTL in Feet??
Fto and feet.
Add master pyraminx, kilominx, dino cube, reddi cube and gear cube.
And Windmill Cube
And Fisher Cube
Dude, they are 3d printing covers for square one too!
Have fun for yourself and stop thinking you need to prove yourself. We go to comps to have fun and meet people, not to shit on every event and criticize everyone. You don't go to a comp to impress people unless you are desperate for attention.
7 bld, oh, fmc, but when you get parity you have to do it with feet.
One event you didn’t mention that I’d bet you’ll agree with being remove is 3x3 fewest moves. Very boring to watch as a spectator
Edit: I got to the part of the video where you mentioned FMC not being added which sounds like the same thing. My bad
They should add all 3 1x1 cubes like normal 1x1 the 1 layer pyra and the 1 layer mega
And 1 layer octahedron
2:34 same for squan tho + clock rn is so cool and the regs have changed
i think that bigger cubes should not be removed
4by4 pyraminx 2by2 one hand and pyraminx one handed should be in comp
No! Keep clock!
YES
They are way too many people dedicated to current events so nothing should be removed
You are absolutely right
I am a member of wca your ldea I good
when you realize the wca logo has the wrong color scheme:
How do you think rankings in team events should work?
Just like usual, based on times :)
@@CubeMasterYT Do you mean that both of the teammates will get the same ranking? I mean global ranking. Also how should NRs and CRs work if people from different countries will be in one team?
Frankly the one I want added the most is 2x2x3 bc it has an interesting speed solving method and if there was a good quality one on the market, I would love to practice more.