The Duolingo bird wants to know your relationship with your family so that he knows whether or not he should hold them hostage when you skip your lessons.
This isn't that much difference from what modern Internet monopolies like Google or Facebook have done and are doing. Soon what you say or search online will be used against you in the real world if you don't align with their political agenda That's why monopoly in information is so dangerous, specially with ones that openly practice surveillance like the aforementioned. Information and the internet need to be fragmented without anybody controlling it or surveiling people
Just like in the pronunciation guides, I learned something today: that the term"heritage speaker" exists and can be used to sum up the idea of "we speak it at home but my writing is trash."
ikr, and when she said she can understand almost everything they speak, but when she's asked to speak she sounds like a toddler, i felt that. Like i relate SO much.
The writing system is inherently challenging. In ancient China, almost only upper-class people knew how to write, but obviously everybody knew how to speak. In 1949, the illiterate rate in China was 80% and it was more than 95% illiterate rate in suburb and rural area. The compulsory education instituted later drastically decreased the rate. Unlike alphabetical languages such as English, one just cannot learn how to write in Chinese without receiving a systematical training.
I’m a writer and I wrote and mailed a poem to my boyfriend that morning. Not even a full hour later duolingo gives me this bad boy: “no one wants to read your romantic poems” absolutely killed me 😂
I was helping my mom on French Duolingo (I speak French with my kids and she's been learning so she can speak French with them, too) and the phrase "Des chiennes mangent du pain," popped up. It means "The dogs are eating bread," but dog is generally masculine and they went out of their way to denote these dogs as female. My brain immediately translated it to, "Bitches eat bread." I couldn't stop laughing.
i was learning korean on duolingo a while ago (stopped because it’s very bad to be honest, it only helped with the alphabet) and the phrase “men aren’t people” kept popping up, it always made laugh
@@hyeromies yeah I’m working on learning Ukrainian and I only use duolingo to help get the alphabet down. Duolingo can be odd in how it tries to teach honestly 😅
"I'm a fake chinese person!" Yo, I say the same when people ask me about spanish. Bruh I'm a cardboard cuttout of a mexican. Looks right until you get up close.
Me too! I have hispanic people come up to me speaking Spanish all the time cause of my "obviously Mexican" appearance. They get so disappointed when I make a face and go "idk what u just said, ion speak spanish"
Same with blacks. I'm not a white black like tom Dubai but I'm not from the hood either. I was just raised to be respectful and I dont necessarily listen to rap
She's actually really nice, and am I allowed to say cute as well? She's engaging in that I'm not bored in just watching them do whatever on stream since she's a natural conversationalist that gives more than generic non-responses and interacts with her audience warmly
@@chodie293 fellas, is it gay to be polite and complimentary? Edit for context: someone previously commented “so gay” and has since deleted their comment
girl, i relate SO MUCH. i once was asked to read a chinese simple instructions and i just realised i couldnt read AT ALL. "but you speak just fine!", my dad says, and i am like "yeah, but you never taught me how to read" and he looked really dumbfounded because he then noticed that speaking and writing/reading mandarin are two completely different things, which does not happen too much in non-character languages
Damn, that's kinda dumb on the part of your dad. I'm sure he just didn't consider it and u didn't say what age u were when this happened. But even an English speaker would think it's a given that u have to teach your kid to read. Shits not magic, if you pick that up on ur own thats an exception not the rule
@@maxnibler6090 I think it happens to a lot of bilingual people. I’ve had friends could speak and understand Spanish yet not know how to read or write it because they grew up speaking two languages and hearing it yet not having to read much in one language.
As a native Russian speaker, this made me feel so much better about myself 😅 I'm the exact same way, I can understand Russian perfectly and can read it but I crumble when I have to speak it and or write it.
If you can understand then it's easy to speak, it's just going to be very painful and you need to accept making mistakes. In a couple of weeks you would be decent.
YES!!!! Chai kya hai? Panee kya hai? Main kaun hu??? That never gets old for us. We bust it out all the time. Wil probably never learn Hindi properly, but we'll always remember that line.
@@TPNsBiggestFan It's recommended to use mnemonics to learn kanjis actually, otherwise there are too many confusing and similar kanjis when you reach upper grades
My god, I had learned over 200 kanji by the time I got to my last year of high-school, back then I had intermediate Japanese skills. Its been five years since then and I can barely introduce myself in Japanese now 😭😭
This! I learned some Chinese in highschool without characters, just pinyin in my freetime in a group class and then went on to learn it during uni, went to study abroad in China for a year, then changed uni and made Chinese my major and now I'm keeping my Chinese alive with Duolingo and Du reader, etc. At this point I feel like I've learned and forgotten Chinese 3 times 🤣😅 It's good to know I'm not the only one and thanks for giving us this word that describes this so perfectly: character decay. Sometimes it's just like: have I ever even seen this character before?! (Especially when it comes to traditional characters as I've learned simplified first and my brain usually translates 繁体字 to 简体字 first and then to English or German in my brain. There's only a few characters my brain immediately accepts in traditional character without that additional step.) And sometimes it's like: I know what this character means, but please don't ask me how to pronounce it. 😅 With some words I somewhat remember the pronunciation or at least something close to what it actually is.
i love how this video started with "we're gonna judge how well you can learn chinese with duolingo" and ended with "i am but a mere child, a former shadow of who i once was"
Mixed Chinese person here, I did Chinese School every week until I was in 5th grade and never retained anything beyond a Kindergarten level because we never spoke Mandarin at home due to the fact that my dad is American. It was always really hard for me, and now I know the BASIC basics (if I'm lucky). You are way more advanced than me but it feels super nice to know that this is a universal experience :)
I'm Wasian and I relate too!! My mother always spoke Mandarin Chinese but never taught me anything other than a few words, and my dad made no attempt to learn either :( I hope to learn it soon
The mobile phone has certainly eroded almost every Chinese user's ability to write because just punching the pinyin in gives us the characters we want, so we only really need the ability to read Chinese in order to type Chinese, where as pre-smartphone days we actually had to store the character in our head and correctly recall and write them out. Don't worry Ying, you did great, I took Chinese as a Mother Tongue all the way to high school and I guarantee I'd do far worse than you.
As someone who's used Japanese Duolingo in the past, the crazy sentences are great. One will always stick out to me:「すみません、私は林檎です。」 "Excuse me, I am an apple. (Formal)"
What is worse when you unsubscribe from Duo’s pushy emails? 1. Him crying & being sad 2. Him staring, emotionless, into your eyes without blinking I’ll tell you from experience, 2. It’s flipping creepy
Omg same! I'm Filipino and whenever I hear my mom talk on the phone with family I can understand what they're saying perfectly but when they try to talk to me whether it be on the phone or texting I'm like "uhhhh how do I respond?"
LOL it really be like that even me as someone who lives in the Philippines. I can speak filipino and bisaya just fine but I can't speak my parents' native language which is maranao but I can understand most of what they're saying. I guess I just really have to force myself to speak it. I can help anyone here with Filipino if you guys are interested in speaking it lol.
Me too, i just learning Chinese and this video come in my TH-cam recomended and then i love to watch it because i learn Chinese but i don't know what she talking (with chinese language)
@@stankatoot9353 I'm planning on learning Korean in Duolingo and the thing I realize Is being Asian is a cheat code. I speak three languages(English,Hindi,Nepali)all from just living😂 Korean will be the one I myself put an effort to(learnt English cause of school)
As someone who is 'multilingual' and whose mother tongue is supposed to be Mandarin, I relate to this so much. I'm best at understanding spoken Mandarin, followed by speaking it, and then reading it. Writing Mandarin characters is at the bottom of the pile, I saw you struggle with the writing bit and I felt so much of it. I speak much better than I write.
Yeah it's weird "knowing" a language but when you have to actually translate it you start thinking about the words and grammar that, at least personally, have no idea how it works. Like you're used to thinking about the words one way but trying to go any deeper breaks my brain.
SAME, im a first generation immigrant from china so my parents speak chinese to me and i speak english back. I can understand them great but i cant even order food at a restaurant. i cant read or write at all lmao
I can kinda relate to the "can understand but not speak" thing, it's weird. I'm a Brazilian and my native language is Portuguese, I can understand and read Spanish, but if you ask me to write or speak I'll just fail it.
I am in reverse. I understand when they write in Portuguese which my native language is Spanish from Puerto Rico. I know when you guys are laughing, you write kkkkkk while Hispanic write jajajaja instead of English writing it like hahaha.
similar situation, my native language is english but my mom’s family’s native language is spanish,, i can understand her yelling at me about my laundry from across the house but i nearly failed spanish 2😭
I’m the same! Welsh second language here and I have a qualification in it, but I cannot speak or write out welsh for the life of me. Can read and understand it close to perfect tho
Imagine being born in Uruguay (Spanish) live in Brazil, go to school in Uruguay, learn everything in Spanish yet my day to day live is in Portuguese. Eventually move school to Brazil, then go back to Spanish. Bro, I kid you not, I will always have an error when writing, because I always get both languages mixed up. Seriously, fuck my parents, who decided that was a good idea
"And the one with the most learners is Spanish" Duolingo Owl: *It's simple, Spanish or vanish* no surprise it's the most popular. It's so widespread and relatively easy especially for someone who speaks French, Italian, Portuguese or English, you might as well learn it to expand your palate
exactly since saying “just learn english if it’s not your first language” gets complicated when english is one of the hardest languages to be fluent in when it’s not your first language lol
@@mariejmch "Actually not for English speakers" First of all, while not a Latin language, both English and Spanish still fall in the Indo-European family. Secondly, English was my first language and I learned Spanish relatively quickly because of all the similarities between words. Just because it's not a Latin language, doesn't mean it's not easy. Seriously, around *FORTY PERCENT* of English words have a related word (cognates) in Spanish (20,000 cognates total). The Spanish alphabet is also the easiest to learn for an English speaker. Mostly all of the same letters as English. If you continue to make silly excuses instead of actually learning, you won't be able to evolve your mind When there are similarities like there are between Spanish and English, it goes a long way!
When starting with French from scratch I did ok. The pronunciation was different of course, but at least it was an alphabet I was familiar with. Then I tried Japanese. This time I was learning a new writing system before I had any foundation with vocabulary or sentence structure. It got frustrating very quickly as I was asked to click on character after character while listening to what to me was still just a series of sounds that didn't have any meaning attached to them yet. It felt like expecting a toddler to start reading and writing at the same stage that they're learning to say their first words.
Duolingo is crap and on a veeeeeery basic level. The test for second graders was harder than the one in doulingo. I tried it for Japanese and it tought strange wordings no one will ever use (like she encountered in her test) and no Japanese would understand and plain wrong vocabularies. I than tried the one for German as a native German and it wasn't as bad as the one for Japanese but honestly: You won't learn the language. You'll learn some phrases so a native speaker would possibly have a chance to understand what you want to tell/ask him. And some of the phrases are completely absurd.
This app was made for complete beginners of a language. It’s also not built to make you fluent. It’s to give you an idea of structure and vocabulary. It’s a good side learning tool that should be used with other tools to learn a language.
@@rainbird2002 Duolingo is for learning as a foreign language. The test for 2nd graders was a test for native speaking. Worlds apart. The tools and methods used to learn a language as a foreign speaker are totally different from those used by a native speaker to learn to read and write a language that they already speak from birth. A foreign language student can take months or years just to learn the basics of grammar and pronunciation let alone learning to write Chinese.
Idk why but just listening to your voice is sooooo relaxing lol. U seem like a very chill person with a lovely caring personality and is funny, who i think we'd all feel comfortable to be around without the usual pressure of trying to make conversation with someone new xD
I lived in shanghai as a kid and learned chinese for a good 2 years. i wish i remembered more, but all i can remember is that for some reason, during our travel unit, my teacher decided it would be a good idea to teach 3rd graders how to say terrorist.
I swear, most of the Chinese you meet before learning Chinese or going to China for the first time, are weird af. Might as well be autistic. They have a hard time to work with our social queues or relate to our sensitivities. Of course, different culture. We're as weird to them, probably.
I learned Mandarin in uni and I'm using Duolingo just to keep it alive. I feel you on the "what my skills once were" thing, because at one time I studied abroad in China and then back in uni we translated 5 year plans (with dictionary help obviously), so yeah...
@@ying_verse as someone who gets constantly blamed for using a username based on the game's artifact set instead of the actual damn French phrase, I thank you for giving the Fandom a rough time for a bit. A bit of a sadistic form of catharsis, but I'll take what I can get. Still a great vid either way
i'm currently learning chinese on duollingo because despite being like, 1/64 chinese, i was never enrolled into a mandarin class. every single lesson, without fail, i think of ying and the college entrance exam-2nd grader exam bit and feel a little less ashamed lol but ying's pronunciation videos help me understand pinyin a LOT
Omg the part with the writing is so relatable "Idk what's here *scribbles*" "I forgot the radical *writes one quarter of the word*" "I HAVE TO WRITE IT BEFORE I FORGET IT!!!" i have done all of these XD
When I forget how to write a character but I like kinda know the shape but forgot what is actually in it I just scribble word so it kinda looks like the right writing but it’s actually just scribbles and the teacher would just think I had bad hand writing and let me pass😭
I'm glad to see im not the only one struggling to regain my Chinese fluency. Also watching you go to the 7 stages of grief was an emotional rollercoaster 😂😂
Girl same, I never learnt to read or write Chinese but both my parents are Chinese so I can speak and understand it 😅 I'm currently trying to learn to write it but it's so damn hard it's driving me insaneee, Ive been learning it for about a month and a half and know about 250(?) or so words. I want to take Chinese for my Leaving Cert in two years (Im 16) and I'm kinds scared because that's the final exam for college and my Chinese would have to be reallyyy good so needless to say I'm freaking out 😙
@@emi_1211 im able to speak exceptionally well and understand it but after not brushing up my skill i can only read a few words now, i tried to remaster the basic characters and their sounds first then i tried to make sentences but i always mix them up especially with harder words and writing the characters are indeed a pain since missing one stroke on a letter will means the entire sentence id gibberish now. 😂😂
@@emi_1211 girl don't do it it's awful to mug for and as u learn more u only find out more and more words u don't know. it's INSANE. ive been trying to exempt myself for years
only chinese writing is difficult but chinese is more condensed because of its writing . radicals pile together and u can read it faster. btw the mainland chinese is much more simplified
As a Chinese person, I feel you💀 I’m still learning to write and read Chinese (been doing it for years now) and I still forget half of the words in my lessons sometimes💀
As someone who uses duo, i appreciate the simplicity of it, it’s just challenging enough to where you learn new words but easy enough that if i want to review something i can literally speed run through the review
My brother studied languages at the Defense Language Institute Foreign Language Center in California. The pace of study was intense. Students had to master the language course in 36-64 weeks. Psychologically it was very difficult, but fortunately he was helped by Yuriy Ivantsiv's book "Polyglot Notes. Practical tips for learning foreign languages”. The book " Polyglot Notes" became a desk book for my brother, because it has answers to all the problems that any student of a foreign language has to face. Thanks to the author of the channel for this interesting video! Good luck to everyone who studies a foreign language and wants to realize their full potential!
i love the way she describes things. for example, when she was describing how the chinese dictionary works. i am fluent in chinese and english, but i'd never be able to express that into detail the way she did. really enjoy the atmosphere of her stream, it is so soothing, comfortable, and humorous all at once :)
It's interesting to see a "Chinese" Chinese test sheet. As Taiwanese, we don't use English alphabets. We useㄅㄆㄇㄈ instead. So it's refreshing to see ABCD in a Chinese test sheet.
INTERESTINGLY i actually learned bopomofo before I ever learned pinyin :o a product of being raised in a region of the US where we had more taiwanese immigrants than mainlander immigrants for a while haha
@@ying_verse I learnt zhuyin first also but sometimes it just be easier to write pinyin since English is my native language so it’s still more intuitive for me to translate chinese to Latin characters
I loved when someone (I think it was Vera) said in chat "this exam can't hurt me because I can't read". From time to time when I'm studying Chinese I remember that and I start laughing out loud
Girl, having a first grader level of Chinese is still better than me lol. I’ve been born in China but only lived 5 years there before moving to Germany. I’ve grown up, graduated and studied in Germany and my mom, who’s also Chinese, never practiced with me. I never learned how to read or write and at this point I can’t even speak Chinese anymore cause I’m just lacking the necessary vocabulary to express what I’m trying to say. My mom always tells me how I’m not a real Chinese person anymore and my ancestors are judging hard, dishonor on my cow
Wow it is almost the same for me, my parents emigrated from China to Germany when I was 3 years old, but they only spoke the Shanghainese dialect with me, so that's the only passable Chinese I speak. I've tried several times to learn Mandarin before using VHS courses, at uni, etc. but my level still isn't good. I'm starting a new attempt this year just watching a ton of Mandarin media and writing with Chinese people online using a translator, but I am not confident at all that I will reach the degree of fluency that Ying has any time soon 🙈 I mean at least today you can get by with only writing Chinese on the computer/phone, so I don't worry too much about having to actually write something by hand, but it's still a tough journey!
As a Chinese person who was born in China, came to America at an early age, with my parents only speaking Chinese, and went to (mandatory) Chinese school at a young age, I can proudly affirm that I only know less than 5% of what is being taught from this video because I only know Cantonese and even then I only know enough to pass off as a 6th grader if I am lucky.
I know a bit more than her and I’m the same as you but started Chinese school in 4th grade now 8th and I SUCK at writing literally my little sister knows more AHHH
But why cantonese? My parents are from Hong Kong (Main Cantonese speaking place) and the chinese does not respect them or treat them as Chinese citizens.
@@adrianvicente9676 No offense here . As I am from China, I was thinking it is because lots of Hongkongers, they do not want to be categorised as Chinese rather than mainland Chinese does not treat Hongkongers as Chinese.
Honestly, l've recently decided it's perfectly okay to say "l can't read!" if you're doing Russian or any Asian language. The amount of trouble l've had reading Japanese is staggering, and one of my proudest moments trying to read Russian is that l now can identify "Russia", "What?" and most importantly, "Cat" on sight.
Russian is at least written in an alphabet, and has far more consistent pronunciation than English, so I think that with practice it gets a lot easier. Chinese and Japanese, however use these crazy friggin logographic writing systems, and you have to memorize thousands upon thousands of individual characters.
a whole paragraph in katakana and hiragana is fine but when there are no spaces it's horrible. it's better to read sentences/stories with kanji but furigana. Learning kanji is a nightmare since you need to learn how to write it and memorize how to read it by the original Chinese based sound and the native Japanese one.
I can read japanese. Don't ask me to pronounce kanji tho. Cuz ya gonna get a lot of things I wouldn't use with my dad. I love how ppl just tells me that 廻 is used way more often nowadays, like 2 days ago I didn't knew that kanji, cuz 1 Am a fucking idiot And 2 I can't read for shit. My kana skills are godlike tho. But my kanji is just slowly going higher, bit by bit as I restart getting familiar with the language. Than ppl ask me to translate whole written instruction and I be like Uh? Uh? What? I recognize Ame I recognize Iu Oh that 日 is the sun 日本 that together is an adjective refering to stuff having to do with japan. Than after am like, why don't they just use more simple words. ;-; UwU
I don’t even know a thing about Chinese but this was entertaining to watch, and maybe some time in the future I’ll try to learn it I love learning new languages, and I tend to pick up on them easily
If you ever get into it I recommend Chinese primary textbooks! Each chapter is a story where they include a couple new words so you can see it used in context. Went thru primary with them and while later years have stories that span 4-5 pages on average the earlier ones are short poems and common rhymes. Only thing that got me thru the boring lessons and helped tremendously when I had to write the weekly essays. I’ve lost sm of my Chinese now after completing my 6 years but it was such a fun environment
we say 一门语言 literally one door language it's strange but my chinese teacher explained why do they say door: she made me imagine a door on which is written a language (french, english, spanish...). Then she said that once you walked though the door (after learning this language), you can discover a new world behind the door
Meanwhile me a chinese(until reading this comment) : 一门语言is 一门语言 what's the big deal- Srsly though, I sometimes think we take a lot of the quirks in our language for granted. Like how someone learning mandarin once mentioned how it was so adorable that we refer to kids as 小朋友(literally small friend) and I was like OH I NEVER NOTICED bc I was so used to using it in that context... And another time I was writing in English and wanted to use 鼻子一酸 (literally "nose became sour) before realising the expression didn't exist in English. (It means the feeling you get when you're about to cry btw, the moment you feel the tears coming and realize you can't stop them basically. I still haven't found another way to describe it in English and it's pretty neat) So thanks for teaching me something about the language I grew up speaking ig :)
If you think those are savage, the Korean section has sentences translating "I don't study", "I don't learn", "I'm fat", "The woman is heavy", "Women are strange", "Yes, men are people", and many others. My favorite strange one was where the sentence meant "I don't throw my friends." Some people kept commenting that it was probably a Korean idiom, so I read the sentence aloud with my wife in the other room. She blurted out "뭐라카노?" ( "pardon?" in her dialect). Her tone said it was more like "The hell are you talking about?!"
Few of the amazing sentences I came across in Duolingo: The Australian that eats the globe I am afraid of myself The Dog speaks Korean too The green lizard flies The only one I wholeheartedly agreed with was: Duolingo is strange
@@DBetz109 yea I know that. But to someone who doesn’t understand either they sound similar enough that I can’t distinguish between the two and it still has that nostalgic property to it even if they are two different languages
@@DBetz109 yeah there are loan words and then there’s the pure confusion when you process the word as being one thing and it actually being completely different in Mandarin. Cantonese is fucking weird
@@pergys6991 lmao we cantonese speakers think the same thing about mandarin, like how it only has 4 tones or how in some chinese literature or just daily life, like 聲聲慢, the words 凄凄慘慘戚戚 sound different in cantonese, so it's easier to distinguish, but in mandarin the first and last two sound the same
Her experience is the same as most Chinese and Japanese adults in their home countries now. Their writing proficiency peaks in college and then plummets, because they almost always type characters and no longer write them by hand. There are TH-cam videos of random people on the street being asked to write things, and they can’t. This is how these languages are going to evolve from now on - legible to the native speakers, but increasingly impossible to physically write.
Whenever I returned to school after the long summer break, I had to "relearn" how to write legibly (in English) to take notes in class and it always felt like a strange handwriting lag due to not writing for 2-3 months. I can speedread perfectly fine though. It makes sense that this phenomenon is worse in more complicated writing systems. I couldn't even remember how to write hiragana and katakana after putting off learning Japanese for years but can read them just fine.
As a native Chinese speaker, I honestly can’t memorise the way to type Chinese. Like you had to separate a word into parts, insert them in correct order and then pick the right word from the given ones. I use the touchscreen keyboard to write it out instead, and that’s also why I got a C for my third grade computer class
It also makes learning Japanese (and Id assume Chinese) as a foreigner a COMPLETE BITCH. I may just never even try handwriting Japanese. Im honestly prepared to never achieve any acceptable level of skill in handwriting.
@@leorantila9302 yeah that makes sense. My first year or so of learning Spanish I didn’t really learn what separate words meant, only what common sentences meant. (Pero mi espanõl es muy mal. Lo siento :’)
oh gosh this hurts to watch, my grades were good as a 5th grader back in china but now i'm in college and i can barely play genshin in chinese without taking 20 minutes to read each passive
Oh god I'm 1 year away from becoming you, I also learned up to 5th grade in china, but now my Chinese is trash. I'm really scared of losing it all so I read some webnovels in an attempt to slow the loss(?) If that makes sense?
@@longlegdog7240 yea that makes sense, i'm trying to spend more time on bilibili instead of youtube, and changing my device system languages to chinese helps a lot, other than that you can always take a chinese course for credits lmao
my friend completed up to year 7 in china i think? when he moved to the US he would write chinese everytime we had free time in class xd... meanwhile i've given up and decided that being able to read at a first grade level is good enough lol
First time I've seen her. She's funny, animated, and a joy to watch. This channel could be about anything she has a passion for and she'd have an audience.
Writing things out is so relatable, most of the time we either don’t write or use pinyin on devices and when you gotta write from scratch it’s really difficult to see every stroke even though if you saw the word you would 100% know what it is
Although I’m half Japanese, I related this so much. Like, I can speak very clearly and survive every day Japanese but my Japanese writing skills with Kanji aka “Chinese characters” are like in 1st grade level, reading at maybe at 3rd grade level. My frustration is that I can read more characters than what I can write from memory. 13:13 Japanese Kanji dictionary looks similar, Kanji are in radical and stroke order as well. Used that as kid
If you want to learn the writing, I recommend the book series Remembering the Kanji together with the smartphone app Skritter. This combination has been very effective for me. It is possible to learn 3000 characters within one year, as long as you use the app consistently.
Im in a similar position in French. I can read simple French sentences and understand them, but get me to do anything else and my brain's just like "what French lessons?"
@@michaelidung9848 This comments section is making me feel so much better about my Spanish skill, or lack thereof. I can read a Spanish article and get a general idea of what they're saying but I can't speak a single sentence without losing my shit lol
I just wanted to drop in and say, first, this was incredibly cute and endearing... and I --COMPLETELY-- understand. My grandparents spoke Spanish almost exclusively, and decades ago, I could have held a completely fluent conversation on any topic of your choosing. Today, basically, I can pick a fight, order a beer and find the bathroom. To my credit, in the same sentence if need be. But that's pretty much all I can do. This was incredibly fun and made me feel a little bit better, knowing I'm not the only person who has lost a language.
That;s exactly how I am with German, I was learning it in school for six years and now I'm not even sure I could introduce myself, forming a normal sentence is just unrealistic.
@@Illlium Start watching or listening to German podcasts, tv series or youtubers and it will quickly come back to you. When you hear the language enough, the speaking part will come automatically.
@@puudathemeow5593 The thing is, I don't really want to speak German XD. I was attending lessons in school because I didn't have a choice. If I wanted to pick up a third language I'd go for something with a different syntax or grammar from English and Polish.
@@Illlium I just think it's a waste to throw away that knowledge. You could probably find something to your liking and just watch it for pleasure and still learn a lot. It wouldn't hinder you from learning any additional languages.
I grew up being spoken Chinese to 90% of the time, so I can understand pretty much anything, but for some reason if you tell me to talk, read or write, all of that knowledge just disappears unless the most basic sentence possible. I can understand the most complicated conversations but I've never been able to speak. And that "I can read but can't write" defines my entire extent of skill. Also (by my standards) you did really good.
As a linguistics major I can say that processing language input (reading/listening) and producing language output (writing/speaking) are actually done in separate parts of the brain so that's why it's common for people to be good at understanding a language but struggle when using it on their own. So you're not alone and it's not that you're bad at your language!
Same.I am an Indian and I am comfortable with hindi and English,both in terms of speaking and writing.However,my native language is Maithili, and even though I can understand it all very well ,I can't speak a single sentence in that language without a thousand mistakes.Not to mention,I lost a language (Bengali),so yes, you are not alone lol.
@@hondgjbfgh2653 Hi!! Even I'm from India!!! It's so weird and amazing at the same time to meet another Indian in an international comment section!!! 😅😂. Btw yes even I can relate I'm fluent in Hindi, Marathi and English. Most precisely I'm fluent in my Mother dilect of Marathi not the Standard one, growing up I never really spoke or watched anything movie or anything in Marathi I mostly only grew up watching Hindi cartoons, shows, Movies etc. and speaking Hindi mostly, English because of School and for Marathi I am mostly fluent in my home dialect of Marathi as I speak it with my family and relatives, speak it at home, but the Standard Marathi while speaking in it I really need to search for words it's like I need to search words than frame a sentence in my brain and think it is correct? Even tho I had it in School. I really need to practice it more. In schooI I used to speak English and was good in it used to get good mark's in it but when I was angry I could not express myself in English at all I used to start talking Hindi when I was angry or something. Being multilingual I know right we end up mixing all languages 😂I mostly end up mixing Hindi, Marathi and English while speaking sometimes because of watching Kdramas I end up speaking something in Korean and my sister is like you're giving me bad words right?😠, when in reality I'm just saying random words like shincha( seriously), or ( bichasa)are you crazy? Or aish!! 😂😂. On the top because of Cdramas I sometimes even to have a urge to use Chinese words aswell 😂 same with French as I had taken it as a subject last year and so on. And remember sometimes we are speaking a language and suddenly remember a word in other languages we speak which we think suits, sits perfectly for this situation or sentence we are speaking about but the problem is it may not make sense in the language we are speaking currently in 😂😂
This is so relatable it hurts. As someone who grew up speaking mandarin, I can safely say that my reading and writing skills are non existent at this point. Speaking and listening skills are better but still not great.
Well at least your parents taught your their native language😅 “Oh, we just didn’t use it” is the answer I get when I ask. They literally speak it everyday, they were just lacking in parental skills. Pain
I still argue with my parents in my mid twenties about this 😂 Even if you get taught something, ANYTHING, at a young age it makes at least learning other languages easier later on
wow finding this super late but amazed how relatable you are. i was born in Taiwan but moved/raised in the US at a young age and despite going to Chinese school every weekend for years, have become basically illerate; speaking, pronunciation, and comprehension are very good like you due to being a heritage speaker. Was brushing up on my French with DL and was curious about the Chinese, but not jazzed that it's simplified... being Taiwanese, all my past reading/writing was in traditional Chinese. Wonder if there's anything out there to relearn that other than pulling out my dusty dictionary and elementary/middle school Chinese textbooks.Thanks for entertaining us Asian-Americans while letting us know we're not alone. 😅
As someone that had to take Chinese till I was 15 yrs old...when I was doing alongside Ying for the 2nd grade I felt that frustration of I can read it but I can't write it moment 🤣 我也是个文盲🥲
This video is so interesting! It deals with so many issues regarding language, the differences between the four skills (reading, writing, listening, and speaking), and identity. I have taught English as a Foreign Language for over eight years in Korea, and have been working at the university level for 4.5 years. And, of course, I speak some Korean. It's so frustrating sometimes when I want to message someone in Korean and have almost no idea how to spell something I say all of the time. Haha. This is such a great video! Thanks for sharing it!
Idk but hearing Ying speak her native language is so satisfying and hilarious. The way she had absolutely no idea what some of the words said but still got them right💀😭
As a Japanese learner, I too can relate to “do not know what the damn letter it is, because they just have this hiragana and they need you to write it in Kanji. It’s always easier if they give u sentences but in most of the time, I missed even one stroke, and then minus 1. Lol
Yeah I feel like Kanji make it soo much easier to read Japanese, since you only need to glance at the characters to read enitre words Learning to write them is torture
As a person who speaks almost 4 languages, each language has its own level Arabic: I can write, read, speak, I find it difficult only in ancient texts, I mean those that were written in the pre-Islamic era. French: I can read and speak, but with errors, and write also, but with many spelling errors. English: reading, speaking, writing, I can do all of this without a problem, just a few spelling errors . The fourth language: is a set of words that I know in German Russian, Japanese, Korean, Chinese and Spanish
My heritage language is Cantonese and I completely feel you. I used to be decent at speaking and I could watch Chinese films and shows and understand most of it. Nowadays I can barely string a sentence together and I struggle to pick up on easy words when people speak it to me
Used to take "beginner's" Chinese in my first semester. After one week the teacher went straight to characters while I was still figuring out if I pronounce the tones right! Dropped after 1 week.
12:26 honestly that's my life of being too americanized and born chinese ahahah. I got grannies or tourists that come up to me and try to communicate to me in canto and I'm like Ah shit I know what you're having a problem with but I'm a 1-way translator. The only cantonese I can speak off the top of my head are numbers and food.. 😩 I'd have to go back to the recesses of my brain to dig up some simple word like "under" or "up the stairs" It makes it way worse when they back talk about me while I'm right there, understanding what they're saying. 😔 And if they speak mandarin, I got no clue what's even happening. LOL
I've had a few stories where I traveled abroad for vacation...in Stockholm, Sweden: 1) Saw a Chinese granny buying candy in a store, probably for her grandkids, and overheard her speaking Swedish to a store associate. Late I'd see her in line, and she asked where I'm from in Mandarin. I tried my best to say that I'm from the USA, though I think she understood. 2) A young Chinese couple from the mainland were having trouble with recharging a metro card, thinking they needed to give back the old card buy a new one. The guy at the ticketing booth made me help try to tell them they just needed to recharge the card. A few minutes of broken Mandarin later, I think they understood, got their card recharged, and thanked me. Keeping in mind that I speak Mandarin like a kindergartner, and Cantonese like a toddler...I think I did okay for trying my best..
I was a fluent German speaker for the first 15 years of my life, and am still decently fluent and the Duolingo course is REDICULOUS. IF I WEREN'T ALREAFY FLUENT I'D BE LOST.
Ying, I am a malaysian, and I gotta say, your Chinese pronunciations were amazing, but your 文笔方面 definitely have space for improvement. Still, i appreciate your effort, keep up the good work.
The Duolingo bird wants to know your relationship with your family so that he knows whether or not he should hold them hostage when you skip your lessons.
bienvenidos, hostage
@@digiiiii bienvenidos, master duolingo is esperándolos 😃
This isn't that much difference from what modern Internet monopolies like Google or Facebook have done and are doing. Soon what you say or search online will be used against you in the real world if you don't align with their political agenda
That's why monopoly in information is so dangerous, specially with ones that openly practice surveillance like the aforementioned. Information and the internet need to be fragmented without anybody controlling it or surveiling people
@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess k
@@user-cw7se6rs4v k
"He doesn't play sports, he only likes to sleep"
Duo Chinese is being written by Asian moms, confirmed
Yeah, and those same Asian moms will also shake their heads like:
"He only plays sports, he doesn't like to study."
😂😂😂
@@michaelheliotis5279 And then "he only studies he doesn't help me do the house chores"
@@michaelheliotis5279 And then "he only studies he doesn't help me do the house chores"
@@mylifehasbeen99betterafter57 me when I do all of those things and there’s nothing to scold me about so she just makes something up
@@mylifehasbeen99betterafter57 and then “he only does the house works, he doesn’t help me earn money tsk tsk tsk”
Just like in the pronunciation guides, I learned something today: that the term"heritage speaker" exists and can be used to sum up the idea of "we speak it at home but my writing is trash."
ikr, and when she said she can understand almost everything they speak, but when she's asked to speak she sounds like a toddler, i felt that. Like i relate SO much.
ugh i have that but with sentence structure and i keep forgetting words talking to my parents is so embarrassing bc of it
I can speak and hear Chinese but reading and writing on the other hand...
me but in vietnamese 😩😩
The writing system is inherently challenging. In ancient China, almost only upper-class people knew how to write, but obviously everybody knew how to speak. In 1949, the illiterate rate in China was 80% and it was more than 95% illiterate rate in suburb and rural area. The compulsory education instituted later drastically decreased the rate. Unlike alphabetical languages such as English, one just cannot learn how to write in Chinese without receiving a systematical training.
My aunt is learning Swedish with Duolingo, and once got this sentence:
"Why is there a Norwegian architect in my bed"
I think duolingo does this on purpose to make learning more entertaining😂
As a Swede. if I shared a bed with a Norwegian I'd immolate myself
I’m a writer and I wrote and mailed a poem to my boyfriend that morning. Not even a full hour later duolingo gives me this bad boy: “no one wants to read your romantic poems” absolutely killed me 😂
@@purplenurple6278 yes he does actually and it works, he is very famous because of the memes. More than the purpose of learning another languages
I'm learning German. I've said too many times that my name is Heidi Klum. Also stuff about Frau Merkel...
I was helping my mom on French Duolingo (I speak French with my kids and she's been learning so she can speak French with them, too) and the phrase "Des chiennes mangent du pain," popped up. It means "The dogs are eating bread," but dog is generally masculine and they went out of their way to denote these dogs as female.
My brain immediately translated it to, "Bitches eat bread." I couldn't stop laughing.
LMAO
🤣😭🤣
get that bread get that head and leave
i was learning korean on duolingo a while ago (stopped because it’s very bad to be honest, it only helped with the alphabet) and the phrase “men aren’t people” kept popping up, it always made laugh
@@hyeromies yeah I’m working on learning Ukrainian and I only use duolingo to help get the alphabet down. Duolingo can be odd in how it tries to teach honestly 😅
Meanwhile Duo French is like "There's a cow in the house!"
I always get "the cat is on the fridge" or "the dog eats the food"
"There's a HORSE, LOOSE in the hospital!"
in dutch duo, “He’s just a child!” (that question made me BEG for context)
German duo: he is not funny.
Welsh duo: Owen is going to swim across the Mediterranean Sea
"I'm a fake chinese person!" Yo, I say the same when people ask me about spanish. Bruh I'm a cardboard cuttout of a mexican. Looks right until you get up close.
Me too! I have hispanic people come up to me speaking Spanish all the time cause of my "obviously Mexican" appearance. They get so disappointed when I make a face and go "idk what u just said, ion speak spanish"
@@rudoartista1493 LOL my family calls that "cara de nopal", you look really hispanic but looks could be as far as it goes.
Same with blacks. I'm not a white black like tom Dubai but I'm not from the hood either. I was just raised to be respectful and I dont necessarily listen to rap
BAHAAAAAA this comment is amazing
Same I’m like those plastic cups that looks like glass I’m an exuse of an Arab 💀
“my reading and writing is passable”
“my reading and writing is an absolute mess”
how quickly her confidence dropped was too relatable for me
This woman has such a lovely personality, like the exact right one for talking to twitch chat and making ppl feel comfortable
She's actually really nice, and am I allowed to say cute as well?
She's engaging in that I'm not bored in just watching them do whatever on stream since she's a natural conversationalist that gives more than generic non-responses and interacts with her audience warmly
Right? It's hard to imagine anyone hating her
This is my first time watching her video and Im so into it. I usually get bored and leave early.
So gay
@@chodie293 fellas, is it gay to be polite and complimentary?
Edit for context: someone previously commented “so gay” and has since deleted their comment
girl, i relate SO MUCH. i once was asked to read a chinese simple instructions and i just realised i couldnt read AT ALL. "but you speak just fine!", my dad says, and i am like "yeah, but you never taught me how to read" and he looked really dumbfounded because he then noticed that speaking and writing/reading mandarin are two completely different things, which does not happen too much in non-character languages
Damn, that's kinda dumb on the part of your dad. I'm sure he just didn't consider it and u didn't say what age u were when this happened. But even an English speaker would think it's a given that u have to teach your kid to read. Shits not magic, if you pick that up on ur own thats an exception not the rule
@@maxnibler6090 i just think it is a funny situation :)
I had the same situation:
"just spell it out!"
"....with what??? there is no alphabet..."
@@maxnibler6090 I think it happens to a lot of bilingual people. I’ve had friends could speak and understand Spanish yet not know how to read or write it because they grew up speaking two languages and hearing it yet not having to read much in one language.
@@handleless986 OH MY GOD YES AHAHAHAHA
As a native Russian speaker, this made me feel so much better about myself 😅 I'm the exact same way, I can understand Russian perfectly and can read it but I crumble when I have to speak it and or write it.
If you can understand then it's easy to speak, it's just going to be very painful and you need to accept making mistakes. In a couple of weeks you would be decent.
I haven't spoken in Russian for years and now i struggle English words pop up in my head TT good thing i still understand it like before
im a Finnish person living in Russia and i struggle with writing alot
@*O MITO* what's so surprising about that
Because if you're born and raised in a country you should speak the language fluently.
Duolingo hindi once got all existential and asked “what is chai? What is water? WHO AM I?”
Lmfao
YES!!!! Chai kya hai? Panee kya hai? Main kaun hu??? That never gets old for us. We bust it out all the time. Wil probably never learn Hindi properly, but we'll always remember that line.
NAHH FR, AS A INDIAN I HAD TRIED DUOLINGO HINDI TO SEE HOW IT WORKS AND MY GOSH, IT HAS THE MOST BIZARRE SENTENCES
YES LMAO i laughed out loud every time it asked me that
HELP ME LMFAOOO
This makes me flashback to learning Japanese kanji. recognizing a character is one thing, but remembering how to write it is another 😩
God, ikr? why does kun-yomi have so many pronunciations :'D
i’d think of them like pictures 😭 “this one is the person jumping with four arms” somehow that made sense in my mind
@@TPNsBiggestFan It's recommended to use mnemonics to learn kanjis actually, otherwise there are too many confusing and similar kanjis when you reach upper grades
My god, I had learned over 200 kanji by the time I got to my last year of high-school, back then I had intermediate Japanese skills. Its been five years since then and I can barely introduce myself in Japanese now 😭😭
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As a non-Chinese who studied Mandarin for my major a loooong time ago, I've never seen a more relatable video. The character decay is REAL
No same I spent EIGHT of my formative years in China, I can just barely survive now probably maybe in China with my language skills
提筆忘字 character amnesia hits hard
Felt this on a spiritual level
i've ben trying to find a phrase to describe "character decay" and now i finally found it thank you
This! I learned some Chinese in highschool without characters, just pinyin in my freetime in a group class and then went on to learn it during uni, went to study abroad in China for a year, then changed uni and made Chinese my major and now I'm keeping my Chinese alive with Duolingo and Du reader, etc.
At this point I feel like I've learned and forgotten Chinese 3 times 🤣😅
It's good to know I'm not the only one and thanks for giving us this word that describes this so perfectly: character decay.
Sometimes it's just like: have I ever even seen this character before?! (Especially when it comes to traditional characters as I've learned simplified first and my brain usually translates 繁体字 to 简体字 first and then to English or German in my brain. There's only a few characters my brain immediately accepts in traditional character without that additional step.)
And sometimes it's like: I know what this character means, but please don't ask me how to pronounce it. 😅
With some words I somewhat remember the pronunciation or at least something close to what it actually is.
i love how this video started with "we're gonna judge how well you can learn chinese with duolingo" and ended with "i am but a mere child, a former shadow of who i once was"
LOL
PLEASE i relate with this so much, i was a badass at age 4 and knew FOUR languages. now i only speak 1 and a half.
Mixed Chinese person here, I did Chinese School every week until I was in 5th grade and never retained anything beyond a Kindergarten level because we never spoke Mandarin at home due to the fact that my dad is American. It was always really hard for me, and now I know the BASIC basics (if I'm lucky). You are way more advanced than me but it feels super nice to know that this is a universal experience :)
I'm Wasian and I relate too!! My mother always spoke Mandarin Chinese but never taught me anything other than a few words, and my dad made no attempt to learn either :( I hope to learn it soon
same
Fellow white asian✋
I’ve started learning mandarin recently and the grammar is quite simple, but cHaRaCtErs
I’m in this situation too! My accent and speaking skills are fine, but when it comes to reading and writing, a literal toddler could beat me.
I'm a 3rd gen Chinese Wasian so I know 0 Chinese. 😭
I'm so proud of you even when you couldn't read
hyu my #1 cheerleader
Lol same
@@idkmen5443 omg I'm crying why can't I read Spanish anymore help??
hyurno gringo
@Alexx Claxton I still really love his patchwork staccato cover
"I'm a fake Chinese person"
As German Chinese, I can totally relate 😂😂😂
As a Spanish Chinese with an a lot lower level of Chinese than hers, same 😂
@@vhh1992 Damn wish I was a Spanish one too, German landscape is kinda boring
I'm a german Chinese and my chinese is far behind the level of her.
Hey there~ Italian Chinese here^
@@gaodacheese4691 you can always come to visit 😄
The mobile phone has certainly eroded almost every Chinese user's ability to write because just punching the pinyin in gives us the characters we want, so we only really need the ability to read Chinese in order to type Chinese, where as pre-smartphone days we actually had to store the character in our head and correctly recall and write them out. Don't worry Ying, you did great, I took Chinese as a Mother Tongue all the way to high school and I guarantee I'd do far worse than you.
Probably before that, with the advent of UNIcode symbols on keyboards.
that really reminds me of the hiragana/katakana above japanese kanji in manga dang
Ah I remember that from a half as interesting video
rightt :O once i started using it more it was js a matter of convenience 😂
@@thatpengman yeahh lol although its helpful sometimes
As someone who's used Japanese Duolingo in the past, the crazy sentences are great. One will always stick out to me:「すみません、私は林檎です。」
"Excuse me, I am an apple. (Formal)"
No informal way around that at all.
I learned Japanese from duo too. I could real the sumemasen and watashi wa and also desu but not the that translates to Apple 😂
@@hazelene_ it's sumimasen fyi
@@codelyo_ko9123 spelling mistakes sry
i think think dutch duolingo has the same sentence (pardon, ik ben een appel)
What is worse when you unsubscribe from Duo’s pushy emails?
1. Him crying & being sad
2. Him staring, emotionless, into your eyes without blinking
I’ll tell you from experience, 2.
It’s flipping creepy
Learn another language or I'll kidnap your family
@@chocobear4078 oh shit i wondering why i learning Chinese language with no one ordered me, so this is the reason
@@petrayt5486 yes
HELP
@@shrimp3480 is Duolingo holding you hostage?
"It's like when you can understand a language but you can't speak it..."
As a Filipino, I have never related to a TH-camr on this scale until now.
Omg same! I'm Filipino and whenever I hear my mom talk on the phone with family I can understand what they're saying perfectly but when they try to talk to me whether it be on the phone or texting I'm like "uhhhh how do I respond?"
same for me but for belarussian/russian, my family also mixes belarussian into russian lol
LOL it really be like that even me as someone who lives in the Philippines. I can speak filipino and bisaya just fine but I can't speak my parents' native language which is maranao but I can understand most of what they're saying. I guess I just really have to force myself to speak it. I can help anyone here with Filipino if you guys are interested in speaking it lol.
relatable
Literally every time someone speaks German to me in Texas. I either respond in English or my brain goes to mush
As someone who’s spoken English all their life (and is learning Spanish) this is really fun to watch
What does this have to do with the video
@@stankatoot9353 duolingo can be pretty bad with teaching languages properly and messes up the phrasing sometimes
Me too, i just learning Chinese and this video come in my TH-cam recomended and then i love to watch it because i learn Chinese but i don't know what she talking (with chinese language)
ahh, your profile picture! T^T
@@stankatoot9353 I'm planning on learning Korean in Duolingo and the thing I realize Is being Asian is a cheat code. I speak three languages(English,Hindi,Nepali)all from just living😂
Korean will be the one I myself put an effort to(learnt English cause of school)
Japanese Duolingo once had me type out: “When can I sneak inside?”
I haven’t laughed that hard in a while
As someone who is 'multilingual' and whose mother tongue is supposed to be Mandarin, I relate to this so much. I'm best at understanding spoken Mandarin, followed by speaking it, and then reading it. Writing Mandarin characters is at the bottom of the pile, I saw you struggle with the writing bit and I felt so much of it. I speak much better than I write.
Yeah it's weird "knowing" a language but when you have to actually translate it you start thinking about the words and grammar that, at least personally, have no idea how it works. Like you're used to thinking about the words one way but trying to go any deeper breaks my brain.
SAME, im a first generation immigrant from china so my parents speak chinese to me and i speak english back. I can understand them great but i cant even order food at a restaurant. i cant read or write at all lmao
what about reading it?
@@esen677 oh I can't read another language at all.
Bro same
I can kinda relate to the "can understand but not speak" thing, it's weird. I'm a Brazilian and my native language is Portuguese, I can understand and read Spanish, but if you ask me to write or speak I'll just fail it.
I am in reverse. I understand when they write in Portuguese which my native language is Spanish from Puerto Rico. I know when you guys are laughing, you write kkkkkk while Hispanic write jajajaja instead of English writing it like hahaha.
similar situation, my native language is english but my mom’s family’s native language is spanish,, i can understand her yelling at me about my laundry from across the house but i nearly failed spanish 2😭
I’m the same! Welsh second language here and I have a qualification in it, but I cannot speak or write out welsh for the life of me. Can read and understand it close to perfect tho
Imagine being born in Uruguay (Spanish) live in Brazil, go to school in Uruguay, learn everything in Spanish yet my day to day live is in Portuguese. Eventually move school to Brazil, then go back to Spanish.
Bro, I kid you not, I will always have an error when writing, because I always get both languages mixed up.
Seriously, fuck my parents, who decided that was a good idea
@@dxdafs8136 That honestly sounds so stressful im so sorry
"And the one with the most learners is Spanish"
Duolingo Owl: *It's simple, Spanish or vanish*
no surprise it's the most popular. It's so widespread and relatively easy especially for someone who speaks French, Italian, Portuguese or English, you might as well learn it to expand your palate
Actually not for English speakers since it’s not a Latin language
exactly since saying “just learn english if it’s not your first language” gets complicated when english is one of the hardest languages to be fluent in when it’s not your first language lol
This is true! I know Spanish from taking it for years in school, and over the past few months I’ve been learning Italian and it’s been fairly easy!
@@mariejmch "Actually not for English speakers"
First of all, while not a Latin language, both English and Spanish still fall in the Indo-European family. Secondly, English was my first language and I learned Spanish relatively quickly because of all the similarities between words. Just because it's not a Latin language, doesn't mean it's not easy. Seriously, around *FORTY PERCENT* of English words have a related word (cognates) in Spanish (20,000 cognates total). The Spanish alphabet is also the easiest to learn for an English speaker. Mostly all of the same letters as English. If you continue to make silly excuses instead of actually learning, you won't be able to evolve your mind
When there are similarities like there are between Spanish and English, it goes a long way!
@@mariejmch French isn’t a Latin language either
When starting with French from scratch I did ok. The pronunciation was different of course, but at least it was an alphabet I was familiar with. Then I tried Japanese. This time I was learning a new writing system before I had any foundation with vocabulary or sentence structure. It got frustrating very quickly as I was asked to click on character after character while listening to what to me was still just a series of sounds that didn't have any meaning attached to them yet. It felt like expecting a toddler to start reading and writing at the same stage that they're learning to say their first words.
Ying: "I can't read!"
Ying doing Duolingo: *cleared 65% of the duolingo course in one sitting*
💀
Duolingo is crap and on a veeeeeery basic level. The test for second graders was harder than the one in doulingo.
I tried it for Japanese and it tought strange wordings no one will ever use (like she encountered in her test) and no Japanese would understand and plain wrong vocabularies. I than tried the one for German as a native German and it wasn't as bad as the one for Japanese but honestly: You won't learn the language. You'll learn some phrases so a native speaker would possibly have a chance to understand what you want to tell/ask him. And some of the phrases are completely absurd.
This app was made for complete beginners of a language. It’s also not built to make you fluent. It’s to give you an idea of structure and vocabulary. It’s a good side learning tool that should be used with other tools to learn a language.
@@rainbird2002 Duolingo is for learning as a foreign language. The test for 2nd graders was a test for native speaking. Worlds apart. The tools and methods used to learn a language as a foreign speaker are totally different from those used by a native speaker to learn to read and write a language that they already speak from birth. A foreign language student can take months or years just to learn the basics of grammar and pronunciation let alone learning to write Chinese.
You see her fail in second grade and realize duolingo is ABSOLUTELY no enough
The Korean duo lingo taught me how to say “child milk” 😀 so useful
Ah yes, 아이, 우유
Duolingo taught me how to say the pink avocado and mark marks the mini market in Greek
same lol 아이,우유
I took spanish and i saw woman milk lol
The Italian duo taught me to say the women drinks oil like
"I'm a FIRST GRADER! I'm gonna eat some crayons."
Annnd, that's a sub from me.
if you didnt see im replying so you can see that you have 100+ likes.
@@driving.me.crazy_ 163 at the time of this comment. I can't say why, but I'm happy that people like the comment, haha
@@BakaTaco thats great
Same, i didnt know her at all. Imma dig the channel ahah
Same
Idk why but just listening to your voice is sooooo relaxing lol. U seem like a very chill person with a lovely caring personality and is funny, who i think we'd all feel comfortable to be around without the usual pressure of trying to make conversation with someone new xD
this is SUCH high praise omg ;; I'm so glad you think the vibe here is comfy!!!
I admire how you can speak both Chinese and English with perfect accents.
Yep same here
you'd be surprised at hong kong and its language abilities! most of us here can speak cantonese, mandarin and english fluently :)
@@superhuffpuff i'm talking about the authenticity of her accent :) she speaks english like an american and mandarin like a native chinese
@@windywendi many of us can do that here too! it's actually not that uncommon! of course, still impressive, but yeah! you'd be surprised!
She has a slight accent when she speaks English.
I just look at the Chinese characters and think to myself
That definitely means *something*
Lol
ㅋㅋ
I lived in shanghai as a kid and learned chinese for a good 2 years. i wish i remembered more, but all i can remember is that for some reason, during our travel unit, my teacher decided it would be a good idea to teach 3rd graders how to say terrorist.
I lived in Shanghai as a kid too! We were their for four years, I went to the SAS Puxi campus
@@imjustdandy9799 Omg i went to SCIS HQ
I swear, most of the Chinese you meet before learning Chinese or going to China for the first time, are weird af. Might as well be autistic. They have a hard time to work with our social queues or relate to our sensitivities. Of course, different culture. We're as weird to them, probably.
I learned Mandarin in uni and I'm using Duolingo just to keep it alive.
I feel you on the "what my skills once were" thing, because at one time I studied abroad in China and then back in uni we translated 5 year plans (with dictionary help obviously), so yeah...
I'm studying Chinese as my major, this is making me feel much better about how bad I am at character recognition 😂
Ti bi wang zi.
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I can relate 🤝
this is hilarious, i too thought you were absolute master after the genshin vids 😂
accidentally tricked all of genshin fandom
@@ying_verse as someone who gets constantly blamed for using a username based on the game's artifact set instead of the actual damn French phrase, I thank you for giving the Fandom a rough time for a bit.
A bit of a sadistic form of catharsis, but I'll take what I can get.
Still a great vid either way
@@noblesseoblige319 That is super hilarious! XD RIP your poor soul, lol
yea 😂 her pronunciation is 👌 tho half relate
@@noblesseoblige319 Noblesse oblige, je dois dire que tu n'es qu'un simple paysan
The writing part resonated with my soul
Need to know how to handwrite 3000 words for this academic year's japanese exam 😬
KANJI IS TRULY ITS OWN LEVEL OF HELL
Yes. Can we not like just use hiragana and katakana? I really can't learn kanji! Hopeless!
As a high school student living in Japan, I agree. I barely even passed the 漢字検定 level 3. Those 四字熟語s are killing me.
@@ying_verse Agreed x1000
But kanji is soooo convinient.
It helps me differentiate between雨 and 飴
i'm currently learning chinese on duollingo because despite being like, 1/64 chinese, i was never enrolled into a mandarin class. every single lesson, without fail, i think of ying and the college entrance exam-2nd grader exam bit and feel a little less ashamed lol but ying's pronunciation videos help me understand pinyin a LOT
Omg the part with the writing is so relatable
"Idk what's here *scribbles*"
"I forgot the radical *writes one quarter of the word*"
"I HAVE TO WRITE IT BEFORE I FORGET IT!!!"
i have done all of these XD
same
How about using a whole sentence to describe the word that you forgot how to write in your 作文
@@EricChien95 thats what I did
When I forget how to write a character but I like kinda know the shape but forgot what is actually in it I just scribble word so it kinda looks like the right writing but it’s actually just scribbles and the teacher would just think I had bad hand writing and let me pass😭
and the feeling when you THOUGHT you remembered it but didnt and is just staring blankly at the paper
I'm glad to see im not the only one struggling to regain my Chinese fluency. Also watching you go to the 7 stages of grief was an emotional rollercoaster 😂😂
same lmao
Girl same, I never learnt to read or write Chinese but both my parents are Chinese so I can speak and understand it 😅 I'm currently trying to learn to write it but it's so damn hard it's driving me insaneee, Ive been learning it for about a month and a half and know about 250(?) or so words. I want to take Chinese for my Leaving Cert in two years (Im 16) and I'm kinds scared because that's the final exam for college and my Chinese would have to be reallyyy good so needless to say I'm freaking out 😙
@@emi_1211 im able to speak exceptionally well and understand it but after not brushing up my skill i can only read a few words now, i tried to remaster the basic characters and their sounds first then i tried to make sentences but i always mix them up especially with harder words and writing the characters are indeed a pain since missing one stroke on a letter will means the entire sentence id gibberish now. 😂😂
@@lollmao1497 this is gonna be me in 5 years when I don't need to take Chinese anymore HAHA
@@emi_1211 girl don't do it it's awful to mug for and as u learn more u only find out more and more words u don't know. it's INSANE. ive been trying to exempt myself for years
This proves how insanely difficult Chinese is
I don’t see it, Chinese is so loose u can say whatever u want and it still delivers
Chinese writing is well known to be hard, but the grammar is a lot easier than English
The writing part is quite easy
only chinese writing is difficult but chinese is more condensed because of its writing .
radicals pile together and u can read it faster.
btw the mainland chinese is much more simplified
@@okaeri80 are you okay
As a Chinese person, I feel you💀 I’m still learning to write and read Chinese (been doing it for years now) and I still forget half of the words in my lessons sometimes💀
As someone who uses duo, i appreciate the simplicity of it, it’s just challenging enough to where you learn new words but easy enough that if i want to review something i can literally speed run through the review
I'm a teacher. Comprehension is always higher than production in pretty much every domain
I’m currently learning Swedish on Duolingo - yesterday it taught me how to say “do you come here often” 👀 definitely trying to hook you up 🤣
lol the French duolingo course literally has sections on flirting
@@Mantha8225 so does german!
Same as the Japanese it's so much fun.
Jeg kan ikke svensk, men jeg kan engelsk og litt norsk. hvor like er språkene? kan du forstå noe av dette?
I had that when I learnt Swedish too lol
My brother studied languages at the Defense Language Institute Foreign Language Center in California. The pace of study was intense. Students had to master the language course in 36-64 weeks. Psychologically it was very difficult, but fortunately he was helped by Yuriy Ivantsiv's book "Polyglot Notes. Practical tips for learning foreign languages”. The book " Polyglot Notes" became a desk book for my brother, because it has answers to all the problems that any student of a foreign language has to face. Thanks to the author of the channel for this interesting video! Good luck to everyone who studies a foreign language and wants to realize their full potential!
i love the way she describes things. for example, when she was describing how the chinese dictionary works. i am fluent in chinese and english, but i'd never be able to express that into detail the way she did. really enjoy the atmosphere of her stream, it is so soothing, comfortable, and humorous all at once :)
;)
It's interesting to see a "Chinese" Chinese test sheet.
As Taiwanese, we don't use English alphabets. We useㄅㄆㄇㄈ instead.
So it's refreshing to see ABCD in a Chinese test sheet.
INTERESTINGLY i actually learned bopomofo before I ever learned pinyin :o a product of being raised in a region of the US where we had more taiwanese immigrants than mainlander immigrants for a while haha
@@ying_verse as a Malaysian/Singaporean we learnt bopomofo for like a week in kindergarten anddddd never again
@@ying_verse I learnt zhuyin first also but sometimes it just be easier to write pinyin since English is my native language so it’s still more intuitive for me to translate chinese to Latin characters
I'm Taiwanese, and I find it difficult to read simplify Chinese characters. Feels like the sentences are wobbling.
@@niconiconii4561 we did?
I loved when someone (I think it was Vera) said in chat "this exam can't hurt me because I can't read". From time to time when I'm studying Chinese I remember that and I start laughing out loud
Girl, having a first grader level of Chinese is still better than me lol. I’ve been born in China but only lived 5 years there before moving to Germany. I’ve grown up, graduated and studied in Germany and my mom, who’s also Chinese, never practiced with me. I never learned how to read or write and at this point I can’t even speak Chinese anymore cause I’m just lacking the necessary vocabulary to express what I’m trying to say. My mom always tells me how I’m not a real Chinese person anymore and my ancestors are judging hard, dishonor on my cow
Du bist ein Deutscher 🇩🇪
Wow it is almost the same for me, my parents emigrated from China to Germany when I was 3 years old, but they only spoke the Shanghainese dialect with me, so that's the only passable Chinese I speak. I've tried several times to learn Mandarin before using VHS courses, at uni, etc. but my level still isn't good. I'm starting a new attempt this year just watching a ton of Mandarin media and writing with Chinese people online using a translator, but I am not confident at all that I will reach the degree of fluency that Ying has any time soon 🙈 I mean at least today you can get by with only writing Chinese on the computer/phone, so I don't worry too much about having to actually write something by hand, but it's still a tough journey!
As a Chinese person who was born in China, came to America at an early age, with my parents only speaking Chinese, and went to (mandatory) Chinese school at a young age, I can proudly affirm that I only know less than 5% of what is being taught from this video because I only know Cantonese and even then I only know enough to pass off as a 6th grader if I am lucky.
I know a bit more than her and I’m the same as you but started Chinese school in 4th grade now 8th and I SUCK at writing literally my little sister knows more AHHH
Wow Cantonese, where r u from?
But why cantonese? My parents are from Hong Kong (Main Cantonese speaking place) and the chinese does not respect them or treat them as Chinese citizens.
@@adrianvicente9676 its more like the other way round
@@adrianvicente9676 No offense here . As I am from China, I was thinking it is because lots of Hongkongers, they do not want to be categorised as Chinese rather than mainland Chinese does not treat Hongkongers as Chinese.
Honestly, l've recently decided it's perfectly okay to say "l can't read!" if you're doing Russian or any Asian language. The amount of trouble l've had reading Japanese is staggering, and one of my proudest moments trying to read Russian is that l now can identify "Russia", "What?" and most importantly, "Cat" on sight.
Russian is at least written in an alphabet, and has far more consistent pronunciation than English, so I think that with practice it gets a lot easier. Chinese and Japanese, however use these crazy friggin logographic writing systems, and you have to memorize thousands upon thousands of individual characters.
@@ikemoon127 well, japanese at least has hiragana and katakana so there is some sort of phonetic script that is used in the language
a whole paragraph in katakana and hiragana is fine but when there are no spaces it's horrible. it's better to read sentences/stories with kanji but furigana.
Learning kanji is a nightmare since you need to learn how to write it and memorize how to read it by the original Chinese based sound and the native Japanese one.
Lmao
I can read japanese. Don't ask me to pronounce kanji tho. Cuz ya gonna get a lot of things I wouldn't use with my dad. I love how ppl just tells me that 廻 is used way more often nowadays, like 2 days ago I didn't knew that kanji, cuz 1
Am a fucking idiot
And 2
I can't read for shit.
My kana skills are godlike tho.
But my kanji is just slowly going higher, bit by bit as I restart getting familiar with the language. Than ppl ask me to translate whole written instruction and I be like
Uh?
Uh?
What?
I recognize Ame
I recognize Iu
Oh that 日 is the sun
日本 that together is an adjective refering to stuff having to do with japan. Than after am like, why don't they just use more simple words. ;-; UwU
I don’t even know a thing about Chinese but this was entertaining to watch, and maybe some time in the future I’ll try to learn it
I love learning new languages, and I tend to pick up on them easily
If you ever get into it I recommend Chinese primary textbooks! Each chapter is a story where they include a couple new words so you can see it used in context. Went thru primary with them and while later years have stories that span 4-5 pages on average the earlier ones are short poems and common rhymes. Only thing that got me thru the boring lessons and helped tremendously when I had to write the weekly essays. I’ve lost sm of my Chinese now after completing my 6 years but it was such a fun environment
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我爸爸第一次來英國,他很快意識到他不能買飯,不能沒有我出去,主要是因為他只知道最少的單詞,比如我迷路了或者最近的公共汽車在哪裡?至少可以這麼說,他在英國的經歷最糟糕。不過人家早餐不錯。喜歡這些東西。
When you said I can't even read half of this, I felt that. I take a Chinese class, but 70% of the stuff on the tests isn't even in the curriculum.
we say 一门语言
literally one door language
it's strange but my chinese teacher explained why do they say door: she made me imagine a door on which is written a language (french, english, spanish...). Then she said that once you walked though the door (after learning this language), you can discover a new world behind the door
Meanwhile me a chinese(until reading this comment) : 一门语言is 一门语言 what's the big deal-
Srsly though, I sometimes think we take a lot of the quirks in our language for granted.
Like how someone learning mandarin once mentioned how it was so adorable that we refer to kids as 小朋友(literally small friend) and I was like OH I NEVER NOTICED bc I was so used to using it in that context...
And another time I was writing in English and wanted to use 鼻子一酸 (literally "nose became sour) before realising the expression didn't exist in English. (It means the feeling you get when you're about to cry btw, the moment you feel the tears coming and realize you can't stop them basically. I still haven't found another way to describe it in English and it's pretty neat)
So thanks for teaching me something about the language I grew up speaking ig :)
@@hayley9066 For "The feeling you get when you're about to cry" in English would be like, "Tears are welling up."
@@hayley9066 That feeling for when you're about to cry in English is also described as your "eyes pricking [with tears]".
@@yogawarriorgirl thanks!
@@weisshxc thanks!
If you think those are savage, the Korean section has sentences translating "I don't study", "I don't learn", "I'm fat", "The woman is heavy", "Women are strange", "Yes, men are people", and many others.
My favorite strange one was where the sentence meant "I don't throw my friends." Some people kept commenting that it was probably a Korean idiom, so I read the sentence aloud with my wife in the other room. She blurted out "뭐라카노?" ( "pardon?" in her dialect). Her tone said it was more like "The hell are you talking about?!"
In the Russian course it keeps talking about blood and bloody things.
@@Robin-jk6wz in French there are sentences like “you are a cat”
@@lunar2391 There's also "You are a horse"
"Dafuck?"
Few of the amazing sentences I came across in Duolingo:
The Australian that eats the globe
I am afraid of myself
The Dog speaks Korean too
The green lizard flies
The only one I wholeheartedly agreed with was:
Duolingo is strange
I’d hear my friend speak to her parents in Cantonese a lot as a kid when I’d go to her house so hearing it now is super nostalgic
This is Mandarin though...
@@DBetz109 yea I know that. But to someone who doesn’t understand either they sound similar enough that I can’t distinguish between the two and it still has that nostalgic property to it even if they are two different languages
@@childofwonder.8 Ohh wig. Yeah as a Canto speaker I can somewhat understand Mandarin if I try REALLY hard
@@DBetz109 yeah there are loan words and then there’s the pure confusion when you process the word as being one thing and it actually being completely different in Mandarin. Cantonese is fucking weird
@@pergys6991 lmao we cantonese speakers think the same thing about mandarin, like how it only has 4 tones or how in some chinese literature or just daily life, like 聲聲慢, the words 凄凄慘慘戚戚 sound different in cantonese, so it's easier to distinguish, but in mandarin the first and last two sound the same
Her experience is the same as most Chinese and Japanese adults in their home countries now. Their writing proficiency peaks in college and then plummets, because they almost always type characters and no longer write them by hand. There are TH-cam videos of random people on the street being asked to write things, and they can’t. This is how these languages are going to evolve from now on - legible to the native speakers, but increasingly impossible to physically write.
Whenever I returned to school after the long summer break, I had to "relearn" how to write legibly (in English) to take notes in class and it always felt like a strange handwriting lag due to not writing for 2-3 months. I can speedread perfectly fine though. It makes sense that this phenomenon is worse in more complicated writing systems. I couldn't even remember how to write hiragana and katakana after putting off learning Japanese for years but can read them just fine.
people forgetting how to do something doesn't mean it's "increasingly impossible" lol
As a native Chinese speaker, I honestly can’t memorise the way to type Chinese. Like you had to separate a word into parts, insert them in correct order and then pick the right word from the given ones. I use the touchscreen keyboard to write it out instead, and that’s also why I got a C for my third grade computer class
It also makes learning Japanese (and Id assume Chinese) as a foreigner a COMPLETE BITCH. I may just never even try handwriting Japanese. Im honestly prepared to never achieve any acceptable level of skill in handwriting.
@@placeholder5041 just use pinyin…?
"As someone who used to have Chinese skills far beyond this, it's incredibly stressful to see how much my skills have degraded. "
深有同感
我以前还是数学语文双科学霸呢, 现在字都写不好
@@Syuvinya跟我一样 :(
@@Syuvinya 但是你写的比我写的好哈哈
As someone who has mandarin as their first language, Duolingo's sentences are so random sometimes 😂😂
Is it still like good to learn Chinese from duolingo, or is there a better app
@@sprig441 You shouldn't use apps at all, only for the complete basics.
its on purpose, they do it so that you'll remember the words in weird sentences
@@leorantila9302 yeah that makes sense. My first year or so of learning Spanish I didn’t really learn what separate words meant, only what common sentences meant.
(Pero mi espanõl es muy mal. Lo siento :’)
I have so much respect for people who can read and write Chinese, my brain is far too smooth
Everyone sharing their funny Duolingo sentences meanwhile Japanese Duolingo is just like… “it’s a store and a train station”
The ying paradox: watching this encourages me to learn chinese at the same time it scares the shit out of me to do so
oh gosh this hurts to watch, my grades were good as a 5th grader back in china but now i'm in college and i can barely play genshin in chinese without taking 20 minutes to read each passive
Oh god I'm 1 year away from becoming you, I also learned up to 5th grade in china, but now my Chinese is trash. I'm really scared of losing it all so I read some webnovels in an attempt to slow the loss(?) If that makes sense?
@@longlegdog7240 yea that makes sense, i'm trying to spend more time on bilibili instead of youtube, and changing my device system languages to chinese helps a lot, other than that you can always take a chinese course for credits lmao
my friend completed up to year 7 in china i think? when he moved to the US he would write chinese everytime we had free time in class xd... meanwhile i've given up and decided that being able to read at a first grade level is good enough lol
@@elu9779 i mean, first grade is still better than nothing
the fact you look like my chinese teacher is amazing-
?!?!?!? WHY HAHAH
@@ying_verse IDK LMAO-
@@vvelveta Yeah kinda jealous of you ngl
honestly same I wish she was
First time I've seen her. She's funny, animated, and a joy to watch. This channel could be about anything she has a passion for and she'd have an audience.
The Chinese “sale” system makes so much sense. Small number = small price.
The other way makes sense too: big number = big discount !
Meanwhile in Brazil:
Big item = big price
Small item = big price
it's based on how fractions are done in Chinese. Bigger numbers go first. For example, 1/4 is 四分之一 in Chinese - literally four parts to make one.
Writing things out is so relatable, most of the time we either don’t write or use pinyin on devices and when you gotta write from scratch it’s really difficult to see every stroke even though if you saw the word you would 100% know what it is
YEAH like i can type perfectly fine but handwrite things????? no thank you
yeah my plan for whenever I need to actually write down Chinese is hope that there is a computer or phone nearby me that I can type pingying with
Although I’m half Japanese, I related this so much.
Like, I can speak very clearly and survive every day Japanese but my Japanese writing skills with Kanji aka “Chinese characters” are like in 1st grade level, reading at maybe at 3rd grade level. My frustration is that I can read more characters than what I can write from memory.
13:13 Japanese Kanji dictionary looks similar, Kanji are in radical and stroke order as well. Used that as kid
If you want to learn the writing, I recommend the book series Remembering the Kanji together with the smartphone app Skritter. This combination has been very effective for me. It is possible to learn 3000 characters within one year, as long as you use the app consistently.
I'm learning japanese and kanji is so annoying. But learning chinese at school helps it a bit
I like how Spanish placement test is a few words for each sentence or fill in the sentence while Chinese is out here being savage
Im in a similar position in French. I can read simple French sentences and understand them, but get me to do anything else and my brain's just like "what French lessons?"
Hahahahaha
I can write French somewhat well but when someone speaks French to me it's like "quoi? répetez-vous, s'il vous plait." like a million times
@@EthanParmetItsDaBunny Lol
This is me but with Spanish. I can read simple sentences but if you ask me to participate in a conversation, I'd be screwed lol
@@michaelidung9848 This comments section is making me feel so much better about my Spanish skill, or lack thereof. I can read a Spanish article and get a general idea of what they're saying but I can't speak a single sentence without losing my shit lol
@@doctordestructo3360 Your not alone lol
I just wanted to drop in and say, first, this was incredibly cute and endearing... and I --COMPLETELY-- understand. My grandparents spoke Spanish almost exclusively, and decades ago, I could have held a completely fluent conversation on any topic of your choosing.
Today, basically, I can pick a fight, order a beer and find the bathroom. To my credit, in the same sentence if need be. But that's pretty much all I can do.
This was incredibly fun and made me feel a little bit better, knowing I'm not the only person who has lost a language.
Lol i'll know who to call if i ever get in a bar fight in spanish speaking country
That;s exactly how I am with German, I was learning it in school for six years and now I'm not even sure I could introduce myself, forming a normal sentence is just unrealistic.
@@Illlium Start watching or listening to German podcasts, tv series or youtubers and it will quickly come back to you. When you hear the language enough, the speaking part will come automatically.
@@puudathemeow5593 The thing is, I don't really want to speak German XD. I was attending lessons in school because I didn't have a choice. If I wanted to pick up a third language I'd go for something with a different syntax or grammar from English and Polish.
@@Illlium I just think it's a waste to throw away that knowledge. You could probably find something to your liking and just watch it for pleasure and still learn a lot. It wouldn't hinder you from learning any additional languages.
I grew up being spoken Chinese to 90% of the time, so I can understand pretty much anything, but for some reason if you tell me to talk, read or write, all of that knowledge just disappears unless the most basic sentence possible. I can understand the most complicated conversations but I've never been able to speak. And that "I can read but can't write" defines my entire extent of skill. Also (by my standards) you did really good.
As a linguistics major I can say that processing language input (reading/listening) and producing language output (writing/speaking) are actually done in separate parts of the brain so that's why it's common for people to be good at understanding a language but struggle when using it on their own. So you're not alone and it's not that you're bad at your language!
@@SupahTrunks7 huh, interesting. Good to know
Same.I am an Indian and I am comfortable with hindi and English,both in terms of speaking and writing.However,my native language is Maithili, and even though I can understand it all very well ,I can't speak a single sentence in that language without a thousand mistakes.Not to mention,I lost a language (Bengali),so yes, you are not alone lol.
@@hondgjbfgh2653 Hi!! Even I'm from India!!! It's so weird and amazing at the same time to meet another Indian in an international comment section!!! 😅😂. Btw yes even I can relate I'm fluent in Hindi, Marathi and English. Most precisely I'm fluent in my Mother dilect of Marathi not the Standard one, growing up I never really spoke or watched anything movie or anything in Marathi I mostly only grew up watching Hindi cartoons, shows, Movies etc. and speaking Hindi mostly, English because of School and for Marathi I am mostly fluent in my home dialect of Marathi as I speak it with my family and relatives, speak it at home, but the Standard Marathi while speaking in it I really need to search for words it's like I need to search words than frame a sentence in my brain and think it is correct? Even tho I had it in School. I really need to practice it more. In schooI I used to speak English and was good in it used to get good mark's in it but when I was angry I could not express myself in English at all I used to start talking Hindi when I was angry or something. Being multilingual I know right we end up mixing all languages 😂I mostly end up mixing Hindi, Marathi and English while speaking sometimes because of watching Kdramas I end up speaking something in Korean and my sister is like you're giving me bad words right?😠, when in reality I'm just saying random words like shincha( seriously), or ( bichasa)are you crazy? Or aish!! 😂😂. On the top because of Cdramas I sometimes even to have a urge to use Chinese words aswell 😂 same with French as I had taken it as a subject last year and so on. And remember sometimes we are speaking a language and suddenly remember a word in other languages we speak which we think suits, sits perfectly for this situation or sentence we are speaking about but the problem is it may not make sense in the language we are speaking currently in 😂😂
@@hondgjbfgh2653 Is Maithili a language or a dilect?
I rarely watch random personalities do stuff and enjoy it but wow you are hilarious and have great content!
🥺 honored that you enjoyed this, thank you for watching!
It's so great to see my suspicion that some of duolingo's greatest problems are word order and word choice accuracy confirmed
This is so relatable it hurts. As someone who grew up speaking mandarin, I can safely say that my reading and writing skills are non existent at this point. Speaking and listening skills are better but still not great.
Well at least your parents taught your their native language😅 “Oh, we just didn’t use it” is the answer I get when I ask. They literally speak it everyday, they were just lacking in parental skills. Pain
same :( and I really want to learnnnnn
I still argue with my parents in my mid twenties about this 😂 Even if you get taught something, ANYTHING, at a young age it makes at least learning other languages easier later on
Phone apps and vrchat on pc is all you need
same
Chinese is hard anyways
wow finding this super late but amazed how relatable you are. i was born in Taiwan but moved/raised in the US at a young age and despite going to Chinese school every weekend for years, have become basically illerate; speaking, pronunciation, and comprehension are very good like you due to being a heritage speaker. Was brushing up on my French with DL and was curious about the Chinese, but not jazzed that it's simplified... being Taiwanese, all my past reading/writing was in traditional Chinese. Wonder if there's anything out there to relearn that other than pulling out my dusty dictionary and elementary/middle school Chinese textbooks.Thanks for entertaining us Asian-Americans while letting us know we're not alone. 😅
As someone that had to take Chinese till I was 15 yrs old...when I was doing alongside Ying for the 2nd grade I felt that frustration of I can read it but I can't write it moment 🤣 我也是个文盲🥲
ello fellow malaysian :D
我是中国人,也经常提笔忘字。现在手机输入法用得多了,都不会写字了。
@@hayley9066 hello there 👀
Not only have you helped me grow an appreciation for another language, but you consistently make me laugh. So glad I found your channel.
This video is so interesting! It deals with so many issues regarding language, the differences between the four skills (reading, writing, listening, and speaking), and identity. I have taught English as a Foreign Language for over eight years in Korea, and have been working at the university level for 4.5 years. And, of course, I speak some Korean. It's so frustrating sometimes when I want to message someone in Korean and have almost no idea how to spell something I say all of the time. Haha. This is such a great video! Thanks for sharing it!
Phone/tablet keyboards have a microphone button on them so you can speak what you want to type.
Struggling with hangul bro?
the moment on 3:40 is so funny “do you 做 运动” like mixing languages is the best
Idk but hearing Ying speak her native language is so satisfying and hilarious. The way she had absolutely no idea what some of the words said but still got them right💀😭
you're giving so much validation to heritage speakers (of all languages) with this video!
As a Japanese learner, I too can relate to “do not know what the damn letter it is, because they just have this hiragana and they need you to write it in Kanji. It’s always easier if they give u sentences but in most of the time, I missed even one stroke, and then minus 1. Lol
Yeah I feel like Kanji make it soo much easier to read Japanese, since you only need to glance at the characters to read enitre words
Learning to write them is torture
As a person who speaks almost 4 languages, each language has its own level
Arabic: I can write, read, speak, I find it difficult only in ancient texts, I mean those that were written in the pre-Islamic era.
French: I can read and speak, but with errors, and write also, but with many spelling errors.
English: reading, speaking, writing, I can do all of this without a problem, just a few spelling errors .
The fourth language: is a set of words that I know in German Russian, Japanese, Korean, Chinese and Spanish
Lol, I think we have the same fourth language.
@@KRYoung_dev 😂😆
As someone who studies Chinese at school, I'm finding it really cool that I know a lot of this while also learning a little bit.
My heritage language is Cantonese and I completely feel you. I used to be decent at speaking and I could watch Chinese films and shows and understand most of it. Nowadays I can barely string a sentence together and I struggle to pick up on easy words when people speak it to me
Used to take "beginner's" Chinese in my first semester. After one week the teacher went straight to characters while I was still figuring out if I pronounce the tones right! Dropped after 1 week.
Your personality gives me life. I like seeing someone who's just as quirky as I. :D
You could said that Duolingo is "TOUCANt play that game."
BIRDS OF A FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER
@@ying_verse Until the cat comes - sorry, had to finish the quote lol
12:26 honestly that's my life of being too americanized and born chinese ahahah.
I got grannies or tourists that come up to me and try to communicate to me in canto and I'm like
Ah shit I know what you're having a problem with but I'm a 1-way translator. The only cantonese I can speak off the top of my head are numbers and food.. 😩
I'd have to go back to the recesses of my brain to dig up some simple word like "under" or "up the stairs"
It makes it way worse when they back talk about me while I'm right there, understanding what they're saying. 😔
And if they speak mandarin, I got no clue what's even happening. LOL
god I feel you so much, it's just so much easier to understand constructed sentences than it is to construct your own sentence a;slkdjfa;slkj TORTURE
I literlly have the same problem T^T, I speak Tamil tho, but it's still hard skjrbgskg. Bilingual problems ig
Same here with Vietnamese.
There's something wrong with me, I'm entirely fluent jn understanding yet can't produce a conversation. Tagalog
I've had a few stories where I traveled abroad for vacation...in Stockholm, Sweden:
1) Saw a Chinese granny buying candy in a store, probably for her grandkids, and overheard her speaking Swedish to a store associate. Late I'd see her in line, and she asked where I'm from in Mandarin. I tried my best to say that I'm from the USA, though I think she understood.
2) A young Chinese couple from the mainland were having trouble with recharging a metro card, thinking they needed to give back the old card buy a new one. The guy at the ticketing booth made me help try to tell them they just needed to recharge the card. A few minutes of broken Mandarin later, I think they understood, got their card recharged, and thanked me.
Keeping in mind that I speak Mandarin like a kindergartner, and Cantonese like a toddler...I think I did okay for trying my best..
I was a fluent German speaker for the first 15 years of my life, and am still decently fluent and the Duolingo course is REDICULOUS. IF I WEREN'T ALREAFY FLUENT I'D BE LOST.
I don’t think it is that bad honestly
I've never laughed so hard when she became so proud after writing 朋友 (friend in mandarin) 😂
Ying, I am a malaysian, and I gotta say, your Chinese pronunciations were amazing, but your 文笔方面 definitely have space for improvement. Still, i appreciate your effort, keep up the good work.
"If I become the Genshin Girl I'm gonna be so mad!"
-The Genshin Girl
Parashockx fan?
Okay first of all I LOVE THE THUMBNAIL HAHAHA
I was SO tempted to use the Duo edit someone made with the gun LMFAO
This kept coming up in my recommended over the course of several months, and I’m glad I finally decided to watch it!