@@kupillas-1638 No wonder it was clean and nice. The thing with Japanese and Korean is that both R and L are treated as R uniformly, so R and then L after would get blended together as just R. or L, for that matter. chinese mandarin the two are not always mixed, but sometimes, one can be pronounced like the other. Which means there's clear bias. What we can tell the Japanese "Katayori arimasu!"
i've heard that they don't consider americanized japanese a real japanese and don't treat them like one of their own. but she seems to fit in fine here. or is that for those who can't really speak japanese. wonder how that works
I lived in Japan for three years. While struggling to learn Japanese, I had an idea to use their primary school textbooks. Upon inspection, I noticed their English textbooks used katakana for phonetic notation. I was shocked at that time and then had a clear understand of why nearly all the Japanese speakers share a distinctive English accent even the high-level ones.
There's a Scottish guy at some club I joined, and I genuinely cannot understand half of what he says most of the time. Its inanse how thick his accent is.
There’s a saying in Japan: “the nail that sticks out gets the hammer.” By acting surprised by her “achievement,” treating it as luck, she is trying to avoid sticking out
@@whiskasthinkingaboutuu say your name is John, and you want to tell me (in third person) that you're going to the club, you say: "John is going to the club"
@@TheAbnormalShrimpOfficial This might be because the AI learned the British English emphasis and not the American English. American English is derived from British English so it makes sense to me. Like in Germany we have many accents/dialects and High German which is understood by everyone, so an AI is probably trained in that and not something like Bavarian or Swabian.
In japanese pronunciation, Consonants are typically followed by a vowel. For instance, in Japanese you would never use the letter "R" on its own. You would say "Ra, Re, Ri, Ro or Ru". Hence its very difficult for native Japanese speakers to pronounce the "rl" in Girl. Because its a sound they would never have had to make speaking their native language.
this is also proof that the japanese "r" sounds like an english "d" since the tongue position is similar, useful tip if you're trying to perfect japanese pronounciation yourself
I was raised in Misawa in Japan and I was blessed to have access to their American airforce base due to connections with the American families. I was exposed to a lot of English when I was a child in Japan and I was basically like Hiratasan being able to speak both Japanese and English. I was always stuck being the translator among my friends whether be an encounter with Americans in the street or translations while watching American movies.
I can tell that this tech is old stuff that doesn't detect it very accurately either, the second and third girls on "Rhythm" were actually much more clearly saying the word they were trying to than what the tech noticed.
That American really hurt her like she was having mood swings. Himeka was diagnosed with Bipolar disorder so it must be hard to be in a show sometimes😢
Himeka had Adjustment Disorder. Her moods and feelings were intensified. And she developed an eating disorder. She was trying to be polite to the foreigner as that was her character, and pretty much herself. Rina didn't have a character. I think she was struggling to find a balance between American behavior and Japanese behavior. Himeka was taken aback by the first comment which was rude to the Japanese. But she got into the swing of things. She was a guest to the English club. Her protégé Mayya Wada was a regular member. Rina, from AKB48 was like a hired tutor because she speaks English.
This is so cute. I admire Rina who’s a native level speaker, yet she’s being humble and acting surprised when she’s got the pronunciation right. Also, this is reminding me of one particular scene from Sofia Coppola’s movie Lost in Translation (2003) where a Japanese person can’t tell the difference between the sound of “L” and “R”
Americans the largest group of native english speakers. Far larger than, british, australians, irish, kiwi etc. The Canadian accent is indesigusable from the american one other than a few words.
for any foreign people worried that if they go to an english speaking country people won’t be able to tell what they’re saying, don’t worry, we probably will. if used within the right context, we will understand
Damn these comments suck. It's just an entertainment show, why are you being so serious? It's not like they told them they were horrible for not getting the answers correct.
Nah! That girl must of had tutoring outside of Japan & her English pronunciation is too perfect every time 😅 She finds speaking English, just as easy as her native Japanese language.
@@Nathan-hk5xp Do you not read comments before you make yours? About 50 other people before you have said she is from Phoenix. This video is 6 years old, why would you think you are the first to tell people that
You're damn right I can. Zedd - Addicted To A Memory. Zedd is right up with Avicii for me as far as influence on electronic music, definitely worth checking him out if you haven't heard of him, though you'll almost definitely recognize some of his work. Also, this song has an amazing community mapping on Beat Saber.
@ there's way that I don't know abt Zedd I've got Spectrum Bulldog & Guardian on my vlrt acc but nevertheless I didn't know this was his song 😭 Anyway magnificent work on writing it down abt Zedd for me and god bless ya
You guys, I'm begging you. This is driving me crazy. What is the song that plays between 0:15 and 0:35, when they're explaining the first game. I know I've heard it, but can't place it. Somebody help, please! 😭
no to be completely fair though, i could understand what they were saying completely, and most the time even as a native speaker myself, what im saying doesnt get recognised unless i put on a different accent
I love that Arizona-born Rina Hirata acts surprised when her first language is English 😂
I think it’s like part of the show lol, but yea she was literally perfect lmfao
@@kupillas-1638 No wonder it was clean and nice. The thing with Japanese and Korean is that both R and L are treated as R uniformly, so R and then L after would get blended together as just R. or L, for that matter. chinese mandarin the two are not always mixed, but sometimes, one can be pronounced like the other.
Which means there's clear bias. What we can tell the Japanese "Katayori arimasu!"
@@musenw8834 those r sound aren't R like English and they lie in between R and L sometimes would sound L sometimes soft R
You think she has to go not appear rude?
@@musenw8834 no, Japanese don´t have any L sound at all, only R with ら、り、る、れ、ろ
That one girl is obviously native level in English. Totally not fair LOL
well, she was born and raised in Amerika, so yeah...
lol I love how she acts "surprised" when she gets it right, then purposely fails the next few to keep the game alive
@Ahlurglgr so why's she in the game 😂
Im pretty sure these are usually staged
i've heard that they don't consider americanized japanese a real japanese and don't treat them like one of their own. but she seems to fit in fine here. or is that for those who can't really speak japanese. wonder how that works
I lived in Japan for three years. While struggling to learn Japanese, I had an idea to use their primary school textbooks. Upon inspection, I noticed their English textbooks used katakana for phonetic notation. I was shocked at that time and then had a clear understand of why nearly all the Japanese speakers share a distinctive English accent even the high-level ones.
wow they need to get on that IPA train
@@ShredST Very little people know how to pronounce sounds from a foreign language, let alone read IPA
@@stargazer07 Do not use text books
@stargazer07 that's a bad way to learn japanese.
I’m Japanese and that’s true fr
One of these girls is American born. Literally fluent in English. Why is she taking part in this? That’s unfair lol.
To try and improve the English test score rates www
She's not
It's not that deep bro😂
girl its not that deep why are yall taking this so serious
Wait.... Americans can speak English? 😮
Rina reaction to speak her first language fluently 😮😮😮
Tbf, speech to text doesn't even like us native speakers so I'd be surprised too!
As a Scottish person, this is what it's like for me too.
Purple burglar alarm!
parepull bergeler allaarem
- scottish person
As an English native, I can tell you she is speaking American, but whateverrrrr
You as a Scottish person need to learn English.
Nobody understands you if you go to another country. Even English people often struggle
There's a Scottish guy at some club I joined, and I genuinely cannot understand half of what he says most of the time. Its inanse how thick his accent is.
Rina speaks fluent English, so it should be no surprise to her if she gets it right.
She used to live in the state I believe in arizona correct me if I’m wrong?
@@jackietran4623she was born and raised there
rinafuny
Her appearance is Japanese but man her accent doesn't even have that natural Japanese style 😅
There’s a saying in Japan: “the nail that sticks out gets the hammer.” By acting surprised by her “achievement,” treating it as luck, she is trying to avoid sticking out
Rina Hirata is also the announcer. She speaks about herself in the third person when she participates.
That’s not weird or anything
@@NisJolyeah I've noticed most Japanese girls refer to themselves in third person
@@ezwsI think it's actually more common in japanese
what does third person mean
@@whiskasthinkingaboutuu say your name is John, and you want to tell me (in third person) that you're going to the club, you say: "John is going to the club"
The second woman gave the perfect native-like pronunciation of "god", though. Even though the supposed word was "girl".
1st girl: "Lock and loll."
2nd girl: "Lock and loll."
3rd girl: "Lock and loll."
4th girl: "Luck now."
I'm a native english speaker, and the text to speech doesn't even understand me.
lol
Maybe you’re Australian or something
@@Myfunnievalentine I'm from the US, sometimes I have to speak in a British accent for it to understand me.
@@TheAbnormalShrimpOfficial This might be because the AI learned the British English emphasis and not the American English. American English is derived from British English so it makes sense to me. Like in Germany we have many accents/dialects and High German which is understood by everyone, so an AI is probably trained in that and not something like Bavarian or Swabian.
@@TheAbnormalShrimpOfficialI think Imma start having to do the same thing 😭
mtfkr spoke perfect english and gotta act surprised for the TV lmfao
She's American and has a white dad. lol
@@Haywood-Jablomie BRUH LMFAOOOO WHY WAS SHE EVEN HERE
@@EmphasisOnPBJ I don't know. Lol. She's a popular Japanese "skin" model and the main reason why they like her is because she's half white . lol
@@EmphasisOnPBJ My posts keep getting blocked. Search up some of her modeling pics. remove filters
Rina is literally a native speaker she's AMERICAN what's the point of fighting with an American girl
She should have gone first as the example and then the other girls try to copy her
Yeah, didn't go so well August 6th, 1945.
idk why did youtube recommended me this but I definately don't regret
In japanese pronunciation, Consonants are typically followed by a vowel.
For instance, in Japanese you would never use the letter "R" on its own. You would say "Ra, Re, Ri, Ro or Ru". Hence its very difficult for native Japanese speakers to pronounce the "rl" in Girl. Because its a sound they would never have had to make speaking their native language.
this is also proof that the japanese "r" sounds like an english "d" since the tongue position is similar, useful tip if you're trying to perfect japanese pronounciation yourself
so true
@@ruggeroantonacci between L and D is how you best produce the sound.
@@iracingtf5051 I have found that it's very similar to the Spanish "r" (both languages' "r" sound is the "flap" sound on the IPA chart)
No shit Sherlock
for anyone wondering the music at 0:20 is Addicted To A Memory by Zedd
You let a native speaker compete against non-natives and then the best ones have to insult each other. what the fuck is this game lol? xD
It's not for us bro :D
She's not competing
@@yoshisarethebomb But Rina Hirata is native and she is competing.
I didn't know about the other girl being native, but I was hella surprised when they had to "guess" the complex of the other and offending them xD
rina's english is more than just fluent lmaoo
Real, she speaks better than most people I know 😂😂
I was raised in Misawa in Japan and I was blessed to have access to their American airforce base due to connections with the American families. I was exposed to a lot of English when I was a child in Japan and I was basically like Hiratasan being able to speak both Japanese and English. I was always stuck being the translator among my friends whether be an encounter with Americans in the street or translations while watching American movies.
That’s cool to be able to speak two languages so well
Ai Kago:My Engurishu is bery guud!!!
Also Ai Kago:
Gyaru(God)
Rizzum(Little)
Rokkunrow(Lookalike)
Karei(Kelly)
she not in the video wutchu talkin bout
The “complex guessing” game was so uncomfortable to watch. Why were they being forced to insult each other lol
well, some japanese tv programs are offensive, others are bizzare, there are thousands and thousands of them
6 YEARS LATER?
Holy goodness!!
TH-cam!!!
the complex game was weird, took me a while to understand what's even going on
3:37 rock and roll
AI just didn’t understand. but human speaker can understand what she say.
Hirata the goat of engrish, love how the first girl pronounced "rhythm" too lol
Miniskirt clearly speaks native English. That's obvious from the first word.
Maybe she's half Japanese
@@filmallfavoritescenes7465i think she's full japanese
yes clearly but she acts surprised😅
Rina: "you know I'm a native English speaker, right?"
Producer: "I don't give a fakku. Just acto supurised!"
This is the most Japanese thing in Japan to ever be Japanned
Thing, Japan:
I can tell that this tech is old stuff that doesn't detect it very accurately either, the second and third girls on "Rhythm" were actually much more clearly saying the word they were trying to than what the tech noticed.
Yeah, I completely understood what they were saying, but didn't recognize the programs version of what they said at all.
That one girl with the perfect accent is an undercover American
The last game was brutal. I started sweating for them
Tsuji Nozomi speaking English😂
Wan dailekushon
Zyasuteen bibaa
Teylaa suweefuto
Aleaahna gulande
The guess flaws of members game was sooo weird, also I had no idea it’s considered a bad thing to have a big butt lmao
That American really hurt her like she was having mood swings. Himeka was diagnosed with Bipolar disorder so it must be hard to be in a show sometimes😢
Himeka had Adjustment Disorder. Her moods and feelings were intensified. And she developed an eating disorder.
She was trying to be polite to the foreigner as that was her character, and pretty much herself. Rina didn't have a character. I think she was struggling to find a balance between American behavior and Japanese behavior. Himeka was taken aback by the first comment which was rude to the Japanese. But she got into the swing of things. She was a guest to the English club. Her protégé Mayya Wada was a regular member. Rina, from AKB48 was like a hired tutor because she speaks English.
This is so cute. I admire Rina who’s a native level speaker, yet she’s being humble and acting surprised when she’s got the pronunciation right.
Also, this is reminding me of one particular scene from Sofia Coppola’s movie Lost in Translation (2003) where a Japanese person can’t tell the difference between the sound of “L” and “R”
Omg it’s been years since I saw this 😂
That second part is brutal, must be hurtful.
That last game is kinda sadistic
That second game was so awkward 😂
I think they all did a good job. Google is just being a hater
No.
*INCORRECT.*
They definitely didn’t say god ??
8:00 throwing the 5-head shade cracked me up... "eto... hiroi!?"
Once Rina spoke, I was shocked how native she sounded
It's because she is a native speaker of English; born and raised in the US having an American father.
@@Patrick-vv3igwtf. Rigged
@@Patrick-vv3iggross so interracial? Yikes
She's American
@@yesyes9698 mmm idk
All 4 girls are beautiful and adorable.
By native they just mean american accent
Americans the largest group of native english speakers. Far larger than, british, australians, irish, kiwi etc. The Canadian accent is indesigusable from the american one other than a few words.
@@mzple- Canadians have some different diphthongs.
The Japanese girls' pronunciations are far outside the range of any English dialect.
@@cacogenicistyeah but so do people from minnesota
@@mzpleCanadian = aboot
Say rock & roll…. “Duck in love”. 🤔. Hmm slight misunderstanding there
1:48 She is the control while the others are the variables in this experiment. Lol
bro's just smurfin lmao
LOL everytime shes shocked that shes fluent its so funny 😹
im dying at how she'll pronounce it perfectly in english and then act surprised when she gets it right LMAOOO
さすが平田！
それば、平田ちゃんのアメリカ英語の教育が大変な偏りあります。比べ必要じゃない。
@@musenw8834 本当
The first three girls are pronouncing the words exactly as they were taught in school, using KATAKANA. The fourth girl must be HAFU.
9:45 Girl WHAT
HAHAHAHA
😭😭😭
HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
shits funny asf
Of all the places I expected to hear _Addicted to a Memory_ by Zedd, the explanation of a reality show game was not one of them.
Same, same
4:02 She said what now?
that last girl clearly sounds native bro lolol
Choosing an English word that has an R and L right next to each other for the first word is just devious lol
Rina's voice is really nice
wild when they zoomed in on "my butt is big"
I really enjoyed watching this. 👍🏼😬
for any foreign people worried that if they go to an english speaking country people won’t be able to tell what they’re saying, don’t worry, we probably will. if used within the right context, we will understand
rina acting like she wasnt born and raised in arizona 😭
Hahaha..I guess Himetan got to study English with Su-chan 😆
Damn these comments suck. It's just an entertainment show, why are you being so serious? It's not like they told them they were horrible for not getting the answers correct.
why is the native english speaker shocked 😭
Me, a bilingual English/Spanish speaker, pretending not to know Spanish in class:
Man I wish Japan was real 😔
Am i the only one who started hearing bring me the horizon, happy song?
4:02 that... sounded completely different.
Nah! That girl must of had tutoring outside of Japan & her English pronunciation is too perfect every time 😅
She finds speaking English, just as easy as her native Japanese language.
She’s half American born in America. She’s totally fluent.
It's nice and all but it's not as funny when they get it so easily 😅
She was born and raised in Phoenix Arizona.
Rina Hirata was born in Phoenix, AZ
@@Nathan-hk5xp Do you not read comments before you make yours? About 50 other people before you have said she is from Phoenix. This video is 6 years old, why would you think you are the first to tell people that
Pizza Hut, Dunkin? Found the industry plant
Maaya Wada is so pretty 😍
RIGHTTT
I don't think Rina was surprised. She was embarrassed. This made her stand out, and that's not ideal in Japanese culture.
Leave it to SuMetal's sister to get one right
Cute 😂
Wooww TH-cam after the debut LEMAO
Somebody make a manga where a Japanese person gets isekai'd with the ability to summon anything once a day, but they have to pronounce it in English.
su metal and her sister himeka look so much alike i thought she was su metal at first😭😹
Rina changed the show to the English dub soundtrack 😂
Dunkin Love indeed.
not me following along trying to pronounce the english words with a japanese accent
I found a video in which Su-Metal's sister plays 😶
5:36 does anybody know the title of the song which was played in here
You're damn right I can. Zedd - Addicted To A Memory. Zedd is right up with Avicii for me as far as influence on electronic music, definitely worth checking him out if you haven't heard of him, though you'll almost definitely recognize some of his work. Also, this song has an amazing community mapping on Beat Saber.
@@autumngust519 Imma let you touch me bro 😭
@ there's way that I don't know abt Zedd I've got Spectrum Bulldog & Guardian on my vlrt acc but nevertheless I didn't know this was his song 😭
Anyway magnificent work on writing it down abt Zedd for me and god bless ya
Maaaayaa
Pika means Shocking? Sounds close to translation what it means, like “Pikachu”!
That is how Pikachu got his name!
Pikachu means "Electric Rat" basically.
Or what about shiny, spark or sparkle mean Pika?
4:00 That is dangerously close to "ligma"
the first girl said gao😂
6:37 that one got me
I'm in love with Japanese women 😍😍😍
6:50 bruh didn't expect BMTH here
Honestly, I heard 'resume' when they tried to say 'rhythm' . Not sure where it's getting Pizza Hut from.
no way , one of them said girl with british accent but didn't get it
You guys, I'm begging you. This is driving me crazy. What is the song that plays between 0:15 and 0:35, when they're explaining the first game. I know I've heard it, but can't place it. Somebody help, please! 😭
According to another comment it’s “Zedd- addicted to a memory”
oko this is acutclly entertaining as flip tho
2:21 maaya wada sekilas mirip jannine weigel, aku udah lama gak liat dia tapi langsung keinget namanya
8:01
Is Himeka the sister of Su-metal from Babymetal? Fairly sure it is. The look very similar. 🥰🤘
What show is this?
3:25 i think she meant drunk in love by Beyonce 😅
this is amazing lol
no to be completely fair though, i could understand what they were saying completely, and most the time even as a native speaker myself, what im saying doesnt get recognised unless i put on a different accent