Ya, I noticed that too. They could have done a much better job at making those shackles a reasonable size (with JUST enough space for the actress to get out of them)!
This punishment is called the pillory, some pain after several hours but more about humiliation, it was considered the less severe form of corporal punishment. The next one was whipping, a much more severe punishment.
I'm sorry. Do the producers of this show really believe this is what women in Jamestown looked like? Make-up, conditioned/permed/dyed hair, plucked eyebrows, impeccable fashionable clothing?
It’s a pbs miniseries, don’t expect ugly people in historical drama. They did a series on Mary Ann Cotton, the English serial killer. The actress playing her looked nothing like real Cotton.
@@cathykuehl3440 We got you beat there. Ever hear of a little musical called "Hamilton"? I'm waiting for a documentary on Elizabeth II starring Beyonce.
Everyone here seems to have some weird impressions that this scene is funny. Most of the audiences don't seem to get the pettiness and stupidity of medieval European and their courts. In this period, the governers and his men held absolute power in trial, there is no court of justice as we are today. If you're peasants or commoners, be prepared to be punished by the governer or the lord of the land, should you commit the slightest offence. The justice courts are only for the wealthy and the nobles. The crimes of this girl is ridiculous. Verity is being punished for disrespecting her husband. Disrespecting of what? Her husband doesn't deserve respect as he is drunkard and cheater yet she is punished for reprimanding her husband gets caught and being drunk.
A good and accurate summation. The fact is, you can fast-forward from Jamestown to the founding of the USA. The Sixth Amendment to the US Constitution mandates a right to an attorney and a speedy trial before a jury of one's peers. This amendment was meant to correct the wrongs as depicted here. As you say, there was a massive rift between the lords and governors and the common people. The former had absolute power over the latter.
@@soupspoon1694 Actually quite the opposite depending on time and period. I know because I have a law degree and studied legal history as the part of the curriculum.
Actually its the democrates who have carpal tunnel syndrom...the ideasxand lack of civility is the reason we are dividedxto the max and will be ajudecated in do time?!!
You mean the party that successfully defeated the Confederacy, abolished slavery by legal ammendment, drafted the 14th and 15th ammendments the modern left clings to in support of alternate lifestyles and bans on antiabortion state laws.... That beginnings of the Republican party?
No, you cannot die for someone's transgressions. That is silly of you jesus cult folks to think you can be absolved of wrong doing by having someone else nailed to a tree.
The accents at that time in both England and America are nothing like today with either. The accent is actually very hard to recreate that existed at this time. It is mostly somewhere between an American and British accent, but has some features that don't exist anywhere today. Honestly, these accents aren't that terrible for a period piece. I suspect the one girl is supposed to be Irish, which complicates it even further.. be happy we can understand her here! 🤣
@@Robertz1986 Excellent point. Additionally, there were obviously no recording devices back then, so there's no way we can know for sure what people sounded like in America, Britain. or anywhere else in the world, for that matter. In movies and television, the best producers can do is take an educated guess in things like this; allowance for some dramatic license is surely warranted as well (IMO).
@@wilobrien9731 "...no way we can know for sure what people sounded like..." Yes and no. Obviously there were no recording devices, but there were people who meticulously cataloged words and pronunciations, so we have a pretty good idea what they sounded like. There is, however, little reason to put the time and effort into trying to accurately reproduce accents and pronunciations when almost no one watching these shows would know what an authentic accent or dialog even sounded like. Just sayin'. YMMV.
0:35 Must be so difficult to get out of those shackles and the stocks
@TomBrown-cq4vuagreed
Ya, I noticed that too. They could have done a much better job at making those shackles a reasonable size (with JUST enough space for the actress to get out of them)!
This punishment is called the pillory, some pain after several hours but more about humiliation, it was considered the less severe form of corporal punishment. The next one was whipping, a much more severe punishment.
You Rope was just sick and disgusting
People were whipped on the pillory right?
@@Faz527 no, people used tu be whipped in the whipping post
@@jimkasprak9070yes sometimes they were also whipped while in the stocks. The stocks in this clip are actually far from historically accurate
Doesn't the Pillory normally also enclosed the neck?
Ah the good old days
Even though she is correct, please don’t poke the bear again! 😂
I'm sorry. Do the producers of this show really believe this is what women in Jamestown looked like? Make-up, conditioned/permed/dyed hair, plucked eyebrows, impeccable fashionable clothing?
It’s a pbs miniseries, don’t expect ugly people in historical drama. They did a series on Mary Ann Cotton, the English serial killer. The actress playing her looked nothing like real Cotton.
THE real Cotton, thanks autocorrect 👎🏻
@@cathykuehl3440 We got you beat there. Ever hear of a little musical called "Hamilton"? I'm waiting for a documentary on Elizabeth II starring Beyonce.
And clean men without smallpox? Your judgement is one sided.
It’s a TV show. There no logic in it.
Back in the Jamestown days, people had perfect white teeth and beautiful hair….!
LOL, You should go to the settlement and find out what the conditions really were. That's even-more frightening
Mountains in the background no mountains in Jamestown
Back then on average the teeth were ok because the jaws were bigger.
I guess they had great dentists and beauticians
@@dannygjkwould you mind explaining that?
Where did they get the elephant shackles from?
The first Walmart in the colonies!
Dumbo's mom apparently.
Bring this back.
Everyone here seems to have some weird impressions that this scene is funny. Most of the audiences don't seem to get the pettiness and stupidity of medieval European and their courts. In this period, the governers and his men held absolute power in trial, there is no court of justice as we are today. If you're peasants or commoners, be prepared to be punished by the governer or the lord of the land, should you commit the slightest offence. The justice courts are only for the wealthy and the nobles. The crimes of this girl is ridiculous. Verity is being punished for disrespecting her husband. Disrespecting of what? Her husband doesn't deserve respect as he is drunkard and cheater yet she is punished for reprimanding her husband gets caught and being drunk.
You’re right, only peasants used to get treated this way. At least she didn’t get lashes, pillory was more about humiliation than pain.
A good and accurate summation. The fact is, you can fast-forward from Jamestown to the founding of the USA. The Sixth Amendment to the US Constitution mandates a right to an attorney and a speedy trial before a jury of one's peers. This amendment was meant to correct the wrongs as depicted here. As you say, there was a massive rift between the lords and governors and the common people. The former had absolute power over the latter.
@@wilobrien9731 Even ex presidents must stand trial for felonies committed in the 21st century. How bout that.
Where is this supposed to be happening? Jamestown, the Virginia colony, was famously in a coastal swamp. No hills, just bog and malaria.
I tend to find that restraints 9x larger than the wrists are the most effective. /sarcasm
No too genuine. All the chick's wearing makeup not appropriate for the time, and so on
Women wore makeup back then too 😂
Why doesn’t she just pull her hands out of those shackles?
2:48
The movie “The Stockade.” It’s about an 18th-century software program that helped make investment decisions. Har, har.
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What did they pour on her?
Pigswill, I think.
pig poo
The finest slop.
Some of her cooking.
Perfect hair, skin, teeth,,,, um,,, not really real history here.
Right .. Hollywood has all historical productions set in Europe make everyone look unhygienic. Forgot. Nowhere else, btw.
Movie name
She needed some more humbling.
Obviously not tight!
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That’s it??? Where’s the whipping and caning???
Ýes sadly missing .
Well that's one way of dealing with feminism.
You do know that back in medieval Europe courts were extremely petty and unfair, right?
@@soupspoon1694 Actually quite the opposite depending on time and period. I know because I have a law degree and studied legal history as the part of the curriculum.
@@Kharmazov Hahahahahahaha...a law degree? I have one of those too. I agree that the courts were extremely petty, barbaric and clownish.
@soupspoon1694 And other medieval courts in other countries weren't?
Ah the republikkkon party's favorite movie only second to the handmaid's tale
Based
Ladies, your white knight has arrived.
You misspelled “democratic party” wrong
Actually its the democrates who have carpal tunnel syndrom...the ideasxand lack of civility is the reason we are dividedxto the max and will be ajudecated in do time?!!
Lol broke back mountain democrat
Irish redheads at Jamestown?
This seems like the beginning of the republicans party
You mean the party that successfully defeated the Confederacy, abolished slavery by legal ammendment, drafted the 14th and 15th ammendments the modern left clings to in support of alternate lifestyles and bans on antiabortion state laws....
That beginnings of the Republican party?
No, it was the abolition of slavery issue that launched the Republican Party. The Democrats opposed it.
It’s pretty close to what today’s Republicans want, sad to say. Just shut up and have babies!/s
I mean, she was kinda asking for it 🤷
JESUS loves you and died for your sin and on the third day he rose again repent and trust in him
No, you cannot die for someone's transgressions. That is silly of you jesus cult folks to think you can be absolved of wrong doing by having someone else nailed to a tree.
More garbage tv.
They ought to have American accents
Why? They just arrived from England and Ireland?
There was no such thing back then unless you're talking about the *Real* Americans, and they were actually in this show too. :)
The accents at that time in both England and America are nothing like today with either. The accent is actually very hard to recreate that existed at this time. It is mostly somewhere between an American and British accent, but has some features that don't exist anywhere today. Honestly, these accents aren't that terrible for a period piece. I suspect the one girl is supposed to be Irish, which complicates it even further.. be happy we can understand her here! 🤣
@@Robertz1986 Excellent point. Additionally, there were obviously no recording devices back then, so there's no way we can know for sure what people sounded like in America, Britain. or anywhere else in the world, for that matter. In movies and television, the best producers can do is take an educated guess in things like this; allowance for some dramatic license is surely warranted as well (IMO).
@@wilobrien9731 "...no way we can know for sure what people sounded like..."
Yes and no. Obviously there were no recording devices, but there were people who meticulously cataloged words and pronunciations, so we have a pretty good idea what they sounded like. There is, however, little reason to put the time and effort into trying to accurately reproduce accents and pronunciations when almost no one watching these shows would know what an authentic accent or dialog even sounded like.
Just sayin'. YMMV.