Thank you for this informative video! A suggestion for a future topic: what kind of role does the used equipment play? What type of boots to use (classic vs skiathlon/dp vs skating), what type of skis (classic vs dp vs skate). Also if they play an important role in technique and / or terrain e.g. stiff boots + dp skis for heel lifters or for rather flat terrain. Keep up the good work!
Loved the video. You discussed Tord's general athleticism and range of motion. As a child and youth, he competed at a very high level in gymnastics, mainly the floor exercises (Cite: SkiClassics Podcast Interview). Hard to say whether this background has actually helped his double-poling, but interesting nonetheless.
Interesting all around! a couple potential counterpoints: 1) The universal straight pole argument is echoed in the great coach Torvik’s video as well, showing Klaebo at cruising speed. I am not entirely sure this holds true for top speed as it appears in many sprint finishes Klaebo plants the poles just in front of the bindings at a non trivial backward angle. The human stretch shortening cycle may not be fast enough to take full advantage of a 90 degree pole plant in an all out sprint. 2) In long distance technique, you mention stiffening the elbows and using elasticity in the core instead, which makes a lot of intuitive sense. However, when we talk about rotation around the elbow joint at the pole plant, with wider hands that usually means there is more stretch shortening in the rotational axis of the shoulder joint, and less in the elbow itself. Further, when looking at the stiff elbow skiing in your video; it appears the shoulder is still engaged significantly in SS cycle, just not rotationally, but through the lats 3) I think to get a complete picture of technical efficiency you have to include not just (watts/resistance)/speed but also metabolic cost/(watts/resistance). I am not entirely sure if we include the entire picture that Bolshunov would not come out on top again!
@@xcskiing_universe I started coaching for fun a few years ago and got addicted; I coach a few national level juniors in the US and I try to bring my math background into the sport :)
I think we need to take into account the physical characteristics of the athlete, since a person is not a robot and we have our own handwriting, I prefer the way Ermil Vokuev walks. Всем добра.
If the video is slowed down he does use some eccentric motion in the first part of poling. It's fast, and he uses his whole body and timing so well (as you point out) that it's prob relatively minimized. But I don't think the goal is locked elbows at the first part of the poling.
@@run_caban Thank you for kind comment. I appreciate it, but I would be happy if you did not translate it in Russian. I’ve just had some issues with another Russian who copied my channel, so please don’t do it. I appreciate your support and wish you the best, but would be happy if you skipped that idea
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Thank you for this informative video! A suggestion for a future topic: what kind of role does the used equipment play? What type of boots to use (classic vs skiathlon/dp vs skating), what type of skis (classic vs dp vs skate). Also if they play an important role in technique and / or terrain e.g. stiff boots + dp skis for heel lifters or for rather flat terrain. Keep up the good work!
Loved the video. You discussed Tord's general athleticism and range of motion. As a child and youth, he competed at a very high level in gymnastics, mainly the floor exercises (Cite: SkiClassics Podcast Interview). Hard to say whether this background has actually helped his double-poling, but interesting nonetheless.
Brilliant video analysis, as always. Bravo.
Спасибо за видео! Оно великолепно! Конечно сразу подписался на этот канал.
Interesting all around! a couple potential counterpoints:
1) The universal straight pole argument is echoed in the great coach Torvik’s video as well, showing Klaebo at cruising speed. I am not entirely sure this holds true for top speed as it appears in many sprint finishes Klaebo plants the poles just in front of the bindings at a non trivial backward angle. The human stretch shortening cycle may not be fast enough to take full advantage of a 90 degree pole plant in an all out sprint.
2) In long distance technique, you mention stiffening the elbows and using elasticity in the core instead, which makes a lot of intuitive sense. However, when we talk about rotation around the elbow joint at the pole plant, with wider hands that usually means there is more stretch shortening in the rotational axis of the shoulder joint, and less in the elbow itself. Further, when looking at the stiff elbow skiing in your video; it appears the shoulder is still engaged significantly in SS cycle, just not rotationally, but through the lats
3) I think to get a complete picture of technical efficiency you have to include not just (watts/resistance)/speed but also metabolic cost/(watts/resistance). I am not entirely sure if we include the entire picture that Bolshunov would not come out on top again!
It seems like you have knowledge about this. Are you a coach or something? If so, where do you work?
@@xcskiing_universe I started coaching for fun a few years ago and got addicted; I coach a few national level juniors in the US and I try to bring my math background into the sport :)
@@mlu7686 Cool! I appreciate having knowledgeable people watching my channel. 🙌🏼🙂
Great job again. I appreciate your efforts.
Awesome Vid! Thanks :)
Very interresting. I am Sure, technique is very individual. ITS right when IT Looks smooth and effective.
Love your video ❤
Great video
I think we need to take into account the physical characteristics of the athlete, since a person is not a robot and we have our own handwriting, I prefer the way Ermil Vokuev walks.
Всем добра.
If the video is slowed down he does use some eccentric motion in the first part of poling. It's fast, and he uses his whole body and timing so well (as you point out) that it's prob relatively minimized. But I don't think the goal is locked elbows at the first part of the poling.
Of course they’re not completely locked. That’s not the point. But the arms are relatively stiff in comparison to some other skiers
GRAVITY, CORE, BODY WEIGHT, MUSCLE!!
What is your opinion about which wheel speed to use during summer training for an amateur doing dp marathons?
2s, 3s or 4s?
Actually 2’s, because a higher speed is better for technique development
@@xcskiing_universe ok I get that but if I can reach more than 20 km/h on 4s during intervals?
@1.34 and 09.40 can anyone tell me what tracks these are?
Cortina Toblach area
@@xcskiing_universe thank you for the reply! are both places in cortina?
Hello dear friend! Wonderful video! I’d like to use it and translate it on Russian language. Certainly I’ll point your channel!
@@run_caban Thank you for kind comment. I appreciate it, but I would be happy if you did not translate it in Russian. I’ve just had some issues with another Russian who copied my channel, so please don’t do it. I appreciate your support and wish you the best, but would be happy if you skipped that idea
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Great analysis but horrible pronunciation of his name