Thanks for doing us proud in the car community with your Cl7R review.. not enough emphasis is given to this underdog of the K20A class worldwide, and its high time more people sang some praises of it.
Thank you for your kind words! It is a dream car, and yes, I am really grateful to be able to own one! I am sure you will get your very own Euro R too!
Correction to this video: 1. Euro R did not share the same engine as the DC5, EP3 or FD2. It has a K20a engine variant especially tuned for the heavy and refinement of the Accord Euro R. But the engine isn't the same as the DC5 or EP3. Yes, DC5 has the same K20a engine code but they are not exactly the same. CL7 Euro R K20a has balancing shaft like the K24a engine. Intake manifold is RBC instead of RRC FD2 or PRC found in DC5R. Valvetrains are single springs configuration for both intake and exhaust. The head port is slightly narrower than DC5 much like the K24a head than the K20a found on Dc5R or EP3R. The flywheel is also heavier and not Chromoly like those of the type R. 2. Gearbox : 6 Speed with LSD but longer gear ratio from 4-6 comparing to DC5R. The CL7 Euro R has the same gear ratios as RSX type S but with LSD. The Gearbox case mounting also different than DC5R or to any other type Rs.
Thanks for this info. Let me dig deeper into your info to see. Regarding the intake manifold, yes I am aware of the RBC and the gearing 4-6 changes. But regarding the balancing shaft, that is something I was not really aware of.
@@ArtTunerz The balancing shaft is a known fact. The K20a in the Euro R has many different parts in it than the other type R like oil pan, EPS, throttle body, flywheel, and oil pump. Due to balancing shaft, the oil pump is uniquely designed for the CL7R. The K20a engine in the Euro R is almost the same as K20Z4. Both Engines have balancing shaft. I have my CL7 Euro R for more than 7 years now 😂
@@ArtTunerz You are not wrong, it is the same engine, the earlier commenter is not wrong too, it is just how that the same engine have slight differences for each car model and enhancements as the newer FD2R receive this engine. The only 4 cars to officially receive the JDM K20A; EP3R in 2001, DC5R slightly later in 2001, CL7R in 2002, FD2R, it is the same engine with slight differences each model. The FD2R has the most aggressive track ready version. It also depends on which parts you consider it as a part of the engine, coz if you include intake manifold, why not include throttle and exhaust manifold too? They will be different because its setup for different cars, DBW vs DBC throttle, a heavier cruiser like an accord, vs a lighter weight body like a civic.
I’m trying to get a daily first car CL7 and debating if I should get a 145k km vs 100k km mileage car in which the 100k km mileage car cost $30k HKD more . Not sure if I should stick to the high mileage one as it will depreciate less anyways and not worth it for the added money for 45k km more mileage. What do you think? The 100k of course looks better with some mugen parts and 145k has a Js racing exhaust - pls help !
30K HKD is like only SGD 5000.... It seems like a good deal. You will need to also check the complete condition of the car, not just the mileage. I.e has it been any accident before, what is the engine's condition. I think the Js racing exhaust for CL7 is still available to purchase. It is just that we cannot register them here in Singapore anymore; hence, it is difficult. But if there are no such restrictions in HK, the 100K mileage one seems more attractive from the info you provided.
@@ArtTunerz ArtTunerz thanks for your reply! Some people say 30k HKD difference I could buy a whole new K20 engine, also, the 100k mileage car has a stock exhaust with Rays wheels and Spoon brakes, LT suspension and SWIFT front back secure while 145k mileage has Wedspot SA70s rims and Bilstein suspensions.
@@jollywong1118 I think a full inspection of the car will be important to determine,.. not just based on aesthetics or parts. The scary thing of any used car is the things you cannot see. Service history is important.. so if you can get the service history, that will help, and also no. of owner count, and who the owners are and whether the car has been tracked before.
From time to time, I stumble upon on your ig posts and they are amazing . A channel with this type of content , JDM enthusiast type of cars is really something to behold . I wish you success in this endeavor and I'm looking forward to what's gonna be the next vehicle .
I love this euro r, giving me so many ideas for my own accord, I have an accord that was originally a type s import but due to car road tax prices here in ireland icetronix take the k24 and replace the engine with a k20a6 to be able to sell them as k24's sell for track cars and drift setups
Thank you for your kind words... yes, I feel it is an awesome car, and I am sure you will get your Euro R too. It is not very rare, and I think at this point in time still very much own-able.
Are the custom fenders wider than standard? Also totally unrelated, but what do you think about the Accord Type S CU2? It is significantly cheaper than all other “R” Hondas based on SgCarMart listings. Thanks
Yes, those are custom fenders, and no they are not wider than standard, although they give an illusion it is. However, it does help to vent some pressure off the inside of the wheel arches. The CU2 Type S, is pretty good actually. It's got the K24A with a relatively high 11.0 compression ratio. If you can find a manual version of it (which is very rare in Singapore), then it definitely is a keeper.
can i just ask what head unit it was because i just bought one but i am now questioning if its compatible with premium sound and my factory reverse camera
I wonder when you will make the video regardless on ur euro r. N here i am watching my most wanted video i want to watch since i followed u in ig. Thank u make the video
Hey! thanks! hope you enjoyed it! actually, i am looking to make more videos about the Euro R! just juggling lots of things at the moment, and will be doing one soon. stay tuned!
For Euro R, no cruise control regardless of FL or PFL. Differences are front bumper design, headlight, taillights, and gauges. Only aesthetics. Mechanically, they are both the same.
@@ArtTunerz Thank you. Shame no cruise control as the tank is 65l. Would love to buy one and drive all throughout Europe like I used to do with my FN2 but lack of CC makes it more difficult
@@golf1dieselIf you referring to mine, the CL7 JDM Euro R version, it is not really for grand touring... it has more Type R DNA, for aggressive driving / tracking. if you want cruise control, you can get the CL9A with the K24A, that comes with cruise control.
@@ArtTunerzI know about that. I've almost bought a cl7r in 2021. I've owned a FN2 Type R for 4 years and spent quite a bit on mods. I've traveled through 8 countries yearly. It was versatile with hondata, both cruise control and Launch control. Not everyone can afford 2 or 3 cars so that had to do the long journeys as well. It was very enjoyable on the Autobahn as well as on the mountain roads here in Romania.I'm sure the Accord would be decent too just have to stop more regularly without cruise control.
The Accord Euro R is actually faster than the Dc5 Type R on the Touge, because it has far better Suspension, having Double Wishbone,s all round makes a big difference, so I think the Accord is a way better car than the DC5 Type R, if your Tuning it, drive safe.
yes double wishbone suspension definitely ups its suspension! however the problem is its sheer weight. haha. but that can be easily solved by stripping it out.
@@meiji9720 Yes, that is very true.... the power steering takes the feedback out totally... some times you don't really feel the road. Compared to when I drove the FD2R, that was a totally different experience.
@@meiji9720 Spoon sports has a solution! I felt the EPS is lacking too, you get used to it, but there no real feel to the steering. It felt abit numb when I first got into the car. I installed Spoon sports Steering collars and the steering was ALIVE after that! much more responsive and lots of feel!.
This is one of my dream cars, but im pretty sure they only come in rhd and in my country You must have a lhd car... thats why i am considering a cl9 type s. What are your thoughts on that car?
Yes, as the Euro R is JDM only, therefore they only come as RHD. For the CL9 Type S, that is a great car too! That one comes with the K24A, and the great thing about the K24A is it has more low-end torque, which is great for city driving. So yup, that will be your best bet being the closest thing to the Euro R. If I am not mistaken, the Type S has a manual version as well. So that should be your choice.
Hey Man, beautiful car! I have a CL7 euro r on the way! I can’t wait! Do you have a link or model of your android head unit? Was it plug and play? Do all controls work? Appreciate the help and look forward to more euro r content 👍
good choice! I think most of the things to check is best to get it hoisted up to check for chassis straightness and the basically if possible ask for the service history. The car usually have issues with its TP sensor, alternators etc, usual wear and tear stuff. So if the previous owner had it all recently changed then, should be better! Fuel consumption is decent at about 11km/L - this of course depends how you drive. If you VTEC all the time, then it could go down to 7km/L? LOL
@@ArtTunerz thank you for the info! Really appreciate it! I was expecting a 7km/L from a normal drive but from what you've said 10-11km/L, that means I'm even more excited now. It took me more than a year to convince my wife that this was the car for us. After a year, I managed to find a guy who allowed us to sit in and start the engine. And she instantly said yes after that. The only thing I'm afraid of is about certain sellers who are trying to sell it at a little of an absurd price. Like $80k plus.
@@aravindparthiban3157 are you from Singapore? If you are, I suggest you to get it now. I think with the way prices are going, you will not find a below 12K depre by mid of next year... 10- 11km/l is usually how I drive. haha light footed. I hit VTEC only occasionally. LOL.
@@ArtTunerz yes bro I'm from Singapore. Yeah I've noticed the depre hovering around 12k ish. At the moment I can't commit due to various reasons sadly. But let's see what's my luck like, with the depre next year 😅.
@@aravindparthiban3157 I guessed you are from SG, since only in SG do we have $80k for a more than 10 year old car. LOL. yea... the fact that the Euro R depre raised by 3K in 1 year, shows the JDM market has a good demand.. Let me know once you get one! Can introduce you to SG's CL7 group.
Depends on what you mean by better. If you like stiffer chassis, then the FD2R is definitely superior. Not to say the CL7 is any worse... can be tracked as just well.
Very nice euro r! , Great to see some content on it as there isn't that much around. I have one in Milano red as well and I can never see myself selling it.
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I bought my Euro R about four months ago and I absolutely love it. But, I still love seeing content on it.
Welcome to the Euro R family! I think you grow to love it even more as you drive it... it is one of those really special cars :)
Still have it?
@@Ballsack44 Yes i still have it!
Thanks for doing us proud in the car community with your Cl7R review.. not enough emphasis is given to this underdog of the K20A class worldwide, and its high time more people sang some praises of it.
thank you! it is an underdog... because you usually don't really associate the K20A with the Accord
This is the cleanest honda i have ever laid my eyes on.
I can see this channel exploding - I'm so jealous I've always wanted a Euro R
Thank you for your kind words! It is a dream car, and yes, I am really grateful to be able to own one! I am sure you will get your very own Euro R too!
Am proud to be an owner of the Accord Euro R 😉
Yeah!
Correction to this video:
1. Euro R did not share the same engine as the DC5, EP3 or FD2. It has a K20a engine variant especially tuned for the heavy and refinement of the Accord Euro R. But the engine isn't the same as the DC5 or EP3. Yes, DC5 has the same K20a engine code but they are not exactly the same.
CL7 Euro R K20a has balancing shaft like the K24a engine. Intake manifold is RBC instead of RRC FD2 or PRC found in DC5R.
Valvetrains are single springs configuration for both intake and exhaust.
The head port is slightly narrower than DC5 much like the K24a head than the K20a found on Dc5R or EP3R. The flywheel is also heavier and not Chromoly like those of the type R.
2. Gearbox : 6 Speed with LSD but longer gear ratio from 4-6 comparing to DC5R. The CL7 Euro R has the same gear ratios as RSX type S but with LSD.
The Gearbox case mounting also different than DC5R or to any other type Rs.
Thanks for this info. Let me dig deeper into your info to see. Regarding the intake manifold, yes I am aware of the RBC and the gearing 4-6 changes. But regarding the balancing shaft, that is something I was not really aware of.
@@ArtTunerz The balancing shaft is a known fact. The K20a in the Euro R has many different parts in it than the other type R like oil pan, EPS, throttle body, flywheel, and oil pump. Due to balancing shaft, the oil pump is uniquely designed for the CL7R. The K20a engine in the Euro R is almost the same as K20Z4. Both Engines have balancing shaft.
I have my CL7 Euro R for more than 7 years now 😂
@@ArtTunerz You are not wrong, it is the same engine, the earlier commenter is not wrong too, it is just how that the same engine have slight differences for each car model and enhancements as the newer FD2R receive this engine. The only 4 cars to officially receive the JDM K20A; EP3R in 2001, DC5R slightly later in 2001, CL7R in 2002, FD2R, it is the same engine with slight differences each model. The FD2R has the most aggressive track ready version. It also depends on which parts you consider it as a part of the engine, coz if you include intake manifold, why not include throttle and exhaust manifold too? They will be different because its setup for different cars, DBW vs DBC throttle, a heavier cruiser like an accord, vs a lighter weight body like a civic.
@@antonc108 your explanation could not be anymore accurate! Haha.. thanks for the clear comment!
I’m trying to get a daily first car CL7 and debating if I should get a 145k km vs 100k km mileage car in which the 100k km mileage car cost $30k HKD more . Not sure if I should stick to the high mileage one as it will depreciate less anyways and not worth it for the added money for 45k km more mileage. What do you think? The 100k of course looks better with some mugen parts and 145k has a Js racing exhaust - pls help !
30K HKD is like only SGD 5000.... It seems like a good deal. You will need to also check the complete condition of the car, not just the mileage. I.e has it been any accident before, what is the engine's condition. I think the Js racing exhaust for CL7 is still available to purchase. It is just that we cannot register them here in Singapore anymore; hence, it is difficult. But if there are no such restrictions in HK, the 100K mileage one seems more attractive from the info you provided.
@@ArtTunerz ArtTunerz thanks for your reply! Some people say 30k HKD difference I could buy a whole new K20 engine, also, the 100k mileage car has a stock exhaust with Rays wheels and Spoon brakes, LT suspension and SWIFT front back secure while 145k mileage has Wedspot SA70s rims and Bilstein suspensions.
@@jollywong1118 I think a full inspection of the car will be important to determine,.. not just based on aesthetics or parts. The scary thing of any used car is the things you cannot see. Service history is important.. so if you can get the service history, that will help, and also no. of owner count, and who the owners are and whether the car has been tracked before.
Sick ride bro, With the prodrive rims ❤️
Thank you!
@@ArtTunerz I got one friend also same rims as you but it’s a white euro R
@@Vteckickinyo The GC010E is quite popular here in Singapore! Ive seen it on quite a few Euro Rs
Sick car tbh
love the euro r trying to build my version here in the US. what front fenders are those?
They are custom front fenders, inspired by the J's Racing version. All the best in your build!
Nice euro r i think its my twin cl7. Still having thoughts in giving a review with my cl7. I love red euro r.
' im gunna ' one day set up a euro with s2000 rear end and running gear
? How does that work? you mean convert to rear wheel drive?
From time to time, I stumble upon on your ig posts and they are amazing . A channel with this type of content , JDM enthusiast type of cars is really something to behold . I wish you success in this endeavor and I'm looking forward to what's gonna be the next vehicle .
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I love this euro r, giving me so many ideas for my own accord, I have an accord that was originally a type s import but due to car road tax prices here in ireland icetronix take the k24 and replace the engine with a k20a6 to be able to sell them as k24's sell for track cars and drift setups
Nice honda, pretty cool. Thinking about it, i want one like yours. Really, you have a nice car
Thank you for your kind words... yes, I feel it is an awesome car, and I am sure you will get your Euro R too. It is not very rare, and I think at this point in time still very much own-able.
Where are those custom front fenders from if you don't mind me asking brother. They look incredible.
No prob! It's a custom-designed front fender, which I am making available to purchase soon!
@@ArtTunerz Appreciate that brother. Let us know when it's available for sale.
I miss my euroR haha, keep it up.
Thank you!
Are the custom fenders wider than standard?
Also totally unrelated, but what do you think about the Accord Type S CU2? It is significantly cheaper than all other “R” Hondas based on SgCarMart listings.
Thanks
Yes, those are custom fenders, and no they are not wider than standard, although they give an illusion it is. However, it does help to vent some pressure off the inside of the wheel arches. The CU2 Type S, is pretty good actually. It's got the K24A with a relatively high 11.0 compression ratio. If you can find a manual version of it (which is very rare in Singapore), then it definitely is a keeper.
can i just ask what head unit it was because i just bought one but i am now questioning if its compatible with premium sound and my factory reverse camera
Hi there, it's a no-brand Android player. You can find it online.
Dope Car and an amazing video.
Keep going
I wonder when you will make the video regardless on ur euro r. N here i am watching my most wanted video i want to watch since i followed u in ig. Thank u make the video
Hey! thanks! hope you enjoyed it! actually, i am looking to make more videos about the Euro R! just juggling lots of things at the moment, and will be doing one soon. stay tuned!
60th sub🤗 sick euro r fam....got myself a 02 sti type r spec c
Type RA Spec C?! 02, that will be the bugeye right? You got a keeper!
Hi,does the prefacelift car have cruise control? Also what are the differences between pre and facelift? I am struggling to find this online. Thanks
For Euro R, no cruise control regardless of FL or PFL. Differences are front bumper design, headlight, taillights, and gauges. Only aesthetics. Mechanically, they are both the same.
@@ArtTunerz Thank you. Shame no cruise control as the tank is 65l. Would love to buy one and drive all throughout Europe like I used to do with my FN2 but lack of CC makes it more difficult
@@golf1dieselIf you referring to mine, the CL7 JDM Euro R version, it is not really for grand touring... it has more Type R DNA, for aggressive driving / tracking. if you want cruise control, you can get the CL9A with the K24A, that comes with cruise control.
@@ArtTunerzI know about that. I've almost bought a cl7r in 2021. I've owned a FN2 Type R for 4 years and spent quite a bit on mods. I've traveled through 8 countries yearly. It was versatile with hondata, both cruise control and Launch control. Not everyone can afford 2 or 3 cars so that had to do the long journeys as well. It was very enjoyable on the Autobahn as well as on the mountain roads here in Romania.I'm sure the Accord would be decent too just have to stop more regularly without cruise control.
The Accord Euro R is actually faster than the Dc5 Type R on the Touge, because it has far better Suspension, having Double Wishbone,s all round makes a big difference, so I think the Accord is a way better car than the DC5 Type R, if your Tuning it, drive safe.
yes double wishbone suspension definitely ups its suspension! however the problem is its sheer weight. haha. but that can be easily solved by stripping it out.
@@ArtTunerz the electric power steering kills me with these cars, otherwise it’s literally a dc5 with 4 doors lol
@@meiji9720 Yes, that is very true.... the power steering takes the feedback out totally... some times you don't really feel the road. Compared to when I drove the FD2R, that was a totally different experience.
@@meiji9720 Spoon sports has a solution! I felt the EPS is lacking too, you get used to it, but there no real feel to the steering. It felt abit numb when I first got into the car. I installed Spoon sports Steering collars and the steering was ALIVE after that! much more responsive and lots of feel!.
CL7R over an FD2R?
Awesome machine love it i had detail reviewed
This is one of my dream cars, but im pretty sure they only come in rhd and in my country You must have a lhd car... thats why i am considering a cl9 type s. What are your thoughts on that car?
Yes, as the Euro R is JDM only, therefore they only come as RHD. For the CL9 Type S, that is a great car too! That one comes with the K24A, and the great thing about the K24A is it has more low-end torque, which is great for city driving. So yup, that will be your best bet being the closest thing to the Euro R. If I am not mistaken, the Type S has a manual version as well. So that should be your choice.
@@ArtTunerz Thanks for the reply and keep up the good work!
@@norissalajan Thank you!
What calipers do you have and was it just bolt on ?
I am currently using VTTR 6 pot mini. It is an aftermarket BBK.
Wow, nice car, color red, black roof, what is wheel size and width?.
Thank you! Wheel size is 17", tire size is 225/45/R17
Hey Man, beautiful car! I have a CL7 euro r on the way! I can’t wait! Do you have a link or model of your android head unit? Was it plug and play? Do all controls work? Appreciate the help and look forward to more euro r content 👍
Hey thank you! Congrats on your Euro R! You got an IG account? I can DM you the link there instead.
Are you running wheel spacers in the front?
Nope, not running any spacers.
Great car yo. 🔰🔰👍👍
Thank you!
Nice video! I had the same rims in my Accord.
Keep up the good work
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This is "just" an 4 door Dc-5 👑
very wrong.
Just wanna know where I can get the front fenders
They are custom made fenders. The closest one that resembles it will be the J's Racing, butthe J's doesn't have the middle piece.
Hey I'm planning to get one by mid 2022. Could you advice me on the things to check out for? And also how is the fuel consumption like
good choice! I think most of the things to check is best to get it hoisted up to check for chassis straightness and the basically if possible ask for the service history. The car usually have issues with its TP sensor, alternators etc, usual wear and tear stuff. So if the previous owner had it all recently changed then, should be better! Fuel consumption is decent at about 11km/L - this of course depends how you drive. If you VTEC all the time, then it could go down to 7km/L? LOL
@@ArtTunerz thank you for the info! Really appreciate it! I was expecting a 7km/L from a normal drive but from what you've said 10-11km/L, that means I'm even more excited now. It took me more than a year to convince my wife that this was the car for us. After a year, I managed to find a guy who allowed us to sit in and start the engine. And she instantly said yes after that. The only thing I'm afraid of is about certain sellers who are trying to sell it at a little of an absurd price. Like $80k plus.
@@aravindparthiban3157 are you from Singapore? If you are, I suggest you to get it now. I think with the way prices are going, you will not find a below 12K depre by mid of next year... 10- 11km/l is usually how I drive. haha light footed. I hit VTEC only occasionally. LOL.
@@ArtTunerz yes bro I'm from Singapore. Yeah I've noticed the depre hovering around 12k ish. At the moment I can't commit due to various reasons sadly. But let's see what's my luck like, with the depre next year 😅.
@@aravindparthiban3157 I guessed you are from SG, since only in SG do we have $80k for a more than 10 year old car. LOL. yea... the fact that the Euro R depre raised by 3K in 1 year, shows the JDM market has a good demand.. Let me know once you get one! Can introduce you to SG's CL7 group.
Does this have a better chassis than an FD2?
Depends on your purpose. For track days, I think the FD2 is better, but for daily driving, the CL7 chassis is way more comfortable.
Depends on what you mean by better. If you like stiffer chassis, then the FD2R is definitely superior. Not to say the CL7 is any worse... can be tracked as just well.
@@ArtTunerz looking at a v8 Fuga 450gt as well. The CL7’s aren’t exactly fuel efficient compared to the CL9 K24 I’ve been told.
@@B33ond not really... i get consistent 11 - 12km/L. That is with VTEC driving. It depends how you maintain your car, and oil viscosity you using.
Great video! What other cars you considered buying before pulling the trigger on euro R?
Did not look at other cars actually. Had my eyes set on the Euro R ever since!
What are the wheel specs and offsets??
They are 17", 8.0J, +43 offset!
I wish the us got the euro r 😔 I love my Tsx tho!!
You can still use Euro R parts on your TSX! Just minus the engine. But more or less very similar! :)
@@ArtTunerz I’ve been trying to bring myself to it, the front lip is like 500 by itself 🙁
Very nice euro r! , Great to see some content on it as there isn't that much around. I have one in Milano red as well and I can never see myself selling it.
Thank you! Yes, I personally feel the Milano Red is one of the nicest colours for the Euro R. Don't sell it, you will regret it if you do. haha
Boys and girls put the tsx in the garage bc this cars are getting hard to find and soon to be classic cars soon and collectible specialty the type r
Yes, the Euro R is becoming quite rare, and prices are inching upwards!
What's the color code?
the colour code is Milano Red (R81)!