This game was so ahead of it's time. First RPG I ever bought. I'm on my 4th Boxed Set now. Wife and I moved into her parent's house and had no idea my brother in law, who passed away 5 years ago, was a gamer. Found a beat-up copy in the attic this year. Even found some of his old characters in the box. Made me both nostalgic and sad at the same time. Would have loved to have played with him. Shame that the revised rules done by Bill Logan had to be removed from the web after the LaNasa/TSR fiasco. They were well done. I did some work with him on the Star Frontiersman fanzines. If you haven't seen Bill's Frontier Space, I would suggest checking it out. It's an excellent successor to Star Frontiers, though my heart will always be most fond of the original. Looking forward to seeing your overview on Knight Hawks.
I have looked briefly at Frontier Space, maybe I'll take a deeper look now that you suggest it. So many games (and clones!) and so little time to actually play.
It's worth taking a look at, especially if you enjoy other games of that vintage. It's a very 80s game design, right down to the physical presentation of the box and books. We've had a lot of fun with it over the years.
I got Star Frontiers when I was way too young to appreciate what I had. Now decades later, I would love to get in again and play. I really like the simplicity and how streamlined it is. It really captures the old ray gun science fiction feel in my opinion.
@@TheOldDragoon me too. Star frontiers is such an underrated system these days imo. I have yet to play it but I've read through it like six times lol. Thankfully it is the next game on queue for my group.
I totally love those books. I need to re-read them. The whole revelation of what Xim the Despot's treasure is at the end of Lost Legacy is something I've wanted to spring on my players over the years.
Yeah, it's a shame TSR didn't develop/introduce/support this game better out of the gate. Personally, I really liked the game and honestly loved Knight Hawks. I can definitely see why it didn't survive long, but it definitely could have been a bigger deal if handled differently. Alas, as least I have fond memories of our games back in the 80s. ;-)
I very much loved Star Frontiers, especially once Knight Hawks came out. I still hold out hope of running a campaign again someday, so my players can tool around in a giant 70s van exploring new planets.
This game was so ahead of it's time. First RPG I ever bought. I'm on my 4th Boxed Set now. Wife and I moved into her parent's house and had no idea my brother in law, who passed away 5 years ago, was a gamer. Found a beat-up copy in the attic this year. Even found some of his old characters in the box. Made me both nostalgic and sad at the same time. Would have loved to have played with him. Shame that the revised rules done by Bill Logan had to be removed from the web after the LaNasa/TSR fiasco. They were well done. I did some work with him on the Star Frontiersman fanzines. If you haven't seen Bill's Frontier Space, I would suggest checking it out. It's an excellent successor to Star Frontiers, though my heart will always be most fond of the original. Looking forward to seeing your overview on Knight Hawks.
I have looked briefly at Frontier Space, maybe I'll take a deeper look now that you suggest it. So many games (and clones!) and so little time to actually play.
I was always interested in looking into Star Frontiers, but had my hands full with other games and pass times. Thanks for the video.
It's worth taking a look at, especially if you enjoy other games of that vintage. It's a very 80s game design, right down to the physical presentation of the box and books. We've had a lot of fun with it over the years.
I got Star Frontiers when I was way too young to appreciate what I had. Now decades later, I would love to get in again and play. I really like the simplicity and how streamlined it is. It really captures the old ray gun science fiction feel in my opinion.
If you no longer have your set, you can get a Print On Demand version from DriveThruRPG.
I've got the PDFs, but I would really like to get some original books.
@ClayHales Online sellers often have them available for reasonable-ish prices. Everything TSR vintage has gone up in recent years.
I'm pleased the algorithm brought me to your video. I'm looking forward to your knight hawks review, if that is what you plan to do.
I do plan on covering Knight Hawks. I really love Knight Hawks as a standalone space combat game, and as an adjunct to Star Frontiers.
@@TheOldDragoon me too. Star frontiers is such an underrated system these days imo. I have yet to play it but I've read through it like six times lol. Thankfully it is the next game on queue for my group.
Another great video! Thank you for all the work. Would love to see an overview of Gamma World….
Oh, that one is definitely on the list.
I just recently read the Han Solo trilogy again. (Stars End, Revenge and the Lost Legacy)
The Wookie life debt is mentioned a few times.
I totally love those books. I need to re-read them. The whole revelation of what Xim the Despot's treasure is at the end of Lost Legacy is something I've wanted to spring on my players over the years.
Gamma World had the same issue. High hit points. I just used half.
Considering how many things in Star Frontiers are 1/2 this or 1/2 that, yes, I believe that tracks.
Gamma World was more deadly of a game, if you ask me. You WANTED those higher HPs. lol
Yeah, it's a shame TSR didn't develop/introduce/support this game better out of the gate. Personally, I really liked the game and honestly loved Knight Hawks. I can definitely see why it didn't survive long, but it definitely could have been a bigger deal if handled differently. Alas, as least I have fond memories of our games back in the 80s. ;-)
I very much loved Star Frontiers, especially once Knight Hawks came out. I still hold out hope of running a campaign again someday, so my players can tool around in a giant 70s van exploring new planets.
@@TheOldDragoon LOL! Make it so! :-D