Looks cool, sounds cool, but $1600 for the pair just seems so expensive for what it is. For that price you’d have some fair options for tube hybrid bass heads, and some real quality bass cabinets. If you were willing to wait for a good second hand deal you could get an ampeg V4B half stack, or a beat up fridge cab and a really nice head
On the thomann website the price is 875 € for this amp. So there is enough budget left to get a good bassbox when your budget is 1600 $. Don' t forget all the options the amp offers. So other pedals are not really necessary.
@@zulu5157 well done on supporting my point I guess? You also don’t have to buy the head, and that’s exactly what I’m saying. I’m allowed to criticise them as a package because they’re intended to be sold and work together as one
Awesome demo as always, Patrick. 😎🤘🏻🎸 that amp sounds really nice. Great tones and cool editing options. And yes be excellent to each other. And….party on, dude! 😎🎸💃🕺
Man all the options that are available now. If I had to choose on a budget I'd go for GT1B into a poweramp, mid budget, tonex into a poweramp, hi budget, boss katana 500
Cool Ive been waiting for the head, 2x10 didn’t do it for me it farts out.. I sold it. I wanted to used a 1x15 cab. Tell me they are releasing a 1x15 cab?!
Interesting amp. But what I really like to say is that you are my go to bass related TH-camr out there. Why? Because you don't just play with fingers or just one style / genre. You really make the most out of the gear that you demo. Cheers.
I own both Katana 110 and 210 combos. Great amps. I'm having a hard time understanding why they choose a 4ohm and 8ohm output. I would think a 2 ohm and 4 ohm would be more logical. I regularly stack a 4 and 8 ohm cabinet together. My amp is switchable to 2 ohms. Yeah, the price is beyond gear money stash.
Unlike the video Boss released, you've actually got some low end out of this amp. Thank you. Still, I can't see me replacing my gear with this... doing so would be a backwards move IMO. I don't need all the gimmickry and there's to much to go wrong and it's way under powered.
Are those flats you've got on the Cort Space 5? Been looking into 5 string basses and I love the look of it but didn't want to be restricted with only using rounds
This head should be the same price as the big combo just like the artist combo is the same price as the artist head. Still interested but it’s gonn take me longer to invest now.
It’s cool to have that there are so many options on this amp. However the sound just not working for me. I own a boss bass combo and it works really well. But just all the boss amps have a kinda plastic sound which I’m not really a fan of
I love how customizable it is, but to bring a computer and have to set it up and plug it into my amp at a rehearsal/gig would be my personal nightmare.
These days the cost of them would be too close to make it worth buying a lower wattage one, and they have a volume control anyway. Class D amps don't really cost any different whether they are 200w or 1000w. Different price points are just marketing now. Nothing to do with unit cost.
Absolutely agree! Also….why are the bass combos so much more expensive than the guitar amps. Another point is weight, that 210 combo is a horrific weight for a 160 watt amp. The guitar amps are featherweight, I just don’t get how the bass player gets the shitty end of the stick?
I’m sorry, but I disagree with you on this. Allow me to explain. Newer physical USB port designs doesn’t always outweigh older port designs, depending on its usage and scenarios. There are specific reasons for many audio companies to keep using type-B rather than newest port, I assume you refer to type-C, till today, and it’s not because they cut corners. Let’s think about what matters for any cable port for communication. Yes, the newer port designs usually support better protocols, higher data rates, and so on. However, the physical structure of the port itself still plays a huge role, when you have to install it on devices for specific usages. NO, devices such as bass ampheads don’t have to have a wastefully expensive and sophisticated thunderbolt port like a MacBook Pro, because it’s not a MacBook Pro which is meant to need such a high data rate. The type-B port supports way enough for a tone editing software. But YES, devices such as bass ampheads do want to have a type-B port over a type-C port, due to the fact that the physical structure of type-B is way more durable and reliable than that of type-C, under specific circumstances that only devices such as amp-heads will be: namely, live and studio situations. To be honest, when having a nice manufactured type-B port that’s super tight on my audio interface, I can literally grab the usb cable and lift my interface without having the type-B cable disconnect from the port. To the extremes: if whatever horrible happened to my gear, type-B port can ensure that the cable is still rigidly connected even the gear itself might be broken at most the time. For a type-C port, I don’t think it can handle stuff like that. Imagining that during a live session, a type-B port is hundreds times more reliable than a type-C. I guess you also concerned about the gradually lowered accessibility to the older ports and cables due to the existence of newer ones and thought about that will cause your inconveniences. But let me help you on this, because of reasons I just told, the older ports will never be completely replaced by the newer ones since there will always be stuff (like I said, audio gears, etc.) that prefers them. Analogy of tubes: tubes were out on 99% of electronic devices and were replaced by transistors, since tubes are outdated, big and fat, fragile, expensive to made, and much more power consuming, compared to solid states. But guess what? Tubes will be forever made because there will be devices that will forever prefer tubes over solid states, if you are familiar with our beloved tube amps. Similarly, don’t worry about keeping type-B port on audio devices in 2024 may cause you any trouble and inconvenience, because the old ports will be forever made just for those gears that still need them.
No Aux in or effects loop? Why BOSS? I realize the amp has some effects built in but there are many other pedals out there. Many which sound better in a loop rather than the input. No Aux in, again why? Sure it has Bluetooth built in but requires an optional adaptor. Did BOSS just not care? The lack of these features at this price point is a fail on the part of BOSS.
And just like that the bass player's wallet gets the screws again katana guitar combos offer a pretty good cheap alternative to the other modeler companies but then the same company develops something in the bass market and no dice for that coin id just a soon go where t he name meets the price tag sorry boss you missed the mark on this one you would have been better off creating some sort of bass fly rig that could model great bass amps
Patrick!!! My question is oh so simple!! Have you ever played a bass through a Versatile bass amp? (BET NOT) Check that name out! Sorry not made any more!!!
Looks cool, sounds cool, but $1600 for the pair just seems so expensive for what it is. For that price you’d have some fair options for tube hybrid bass heads, and some real quality bass cabinets. If you were willing to wait for a good second hand deal you could get an ampeg V4B half stack, or a beat up fridge cab and a really nice head
On the thomann website the price is 875 € for this amp. So there is enough budget left to get a good bassbox when your budget is 1600 $. Don' t forget all the options the amp offers. So other pedals are not really necessary.
@@zulu5157that’s for just the head, the matching cab is another $800
@@flyingrat492 you don't have to buy this cab. Other products match too🙃
@@zulu5157 well done on supporting my point I guess? You also don’t have to buy the head, and that’s exactly what I’m saying. I’m allowed to criticise them as a package because they’re intended to be sold and work together as one
@zulu5157 The upside down smile really didn't work for you here. You managed to illustrate this dude's point gladly, and look smarmy about it.
I just saw that this amp was announced and now I get a Patrick demo? Its a good day!
Awesome demo as always, Patrick. 😎🤘🏻🎸 that amp sounds really nice. Great tones and cool editing options. And yes be excellent to each other. And….party on, dude! 😎🎸💃🕺
Great explainer vid and audio/playing demos!
Hi Patrick I hope Boss sends you the ME90B to try out as well! Great demo as usual
Should have the demo for it up in ~2 weeks actually, stay tuned!
@@patrickhunter Nice! 😀Thanks Patrick!
I was interested in "katana-500", so this was very helpful.👍
Nice demo
Man all the options that are available now. If I had to choose on a budget I'd go for GT1B into a poweramp, mid budget, tonex into a poweramp, hi budget, boss katana 500
Nah…you’re not crazy Rick. Some us knew what you meant. Thanks for all you do.
How loud is the fan? Quiet enough for playing in a duo with just an acoustic guitar or a clarinet for the jazz stuff?
Some Hooky influence in the intro
I like the idea, but it's worth pointing out that it's 500w PEAK, not RMS, which won't be enough for most gigging bass players who rely on backline
would be with 2 cabs, also doubling to 1000 watts is only 3db so...
Awesome review, great playing! Can we program different effect presets, and switch between them with the foot switch?
Yes
Cool Ive been waiting for the head, 2x10 didn’t do it for me it farts out.. I sold it. I wanted to used a 1x15 cab. Tell me they are releasing a 1x15 cab?!
They are
@@Basslessonsmelbourne YES!!!
850€!? Are we nuts?
For 150€ I can get an Aguilar Tone Hammer 300 which is more than enough and it’s an Aguilar.
Interesting amp. But what I really like to say is that you are my go to bass related TH-camr out there. Why? Because you don't just play with fingers or just one style / genre. You really make the most out of the gear that you demo. Cheers.
So would it make sense to put this on top of my boss katana 210 bass amp? If it’s the same thing do I need it? Or would it improve my amp
I own both Katana 110 and 210 combos. Great amps. I'm having a hard time understanding why they choose a 4ohm and 8ohm output. I would think a 2 ohm and 4 ohm would be more logical. I regularly stack a 4 and 8 ohm cabinet together. My amp is switchable to 2 ohms. Yeah, the price is beyond gear money stash.
That was a cool riff at the end! Do you have tabs for it?
Unlike the video Boss released, you've actually got some low end out of this amp. Thank you.
Still, I can't see me replacing my gear with this... doing so would be a backwards move IMO.
I don't need all the gimmickry and there's to much to go wrong and it's way under powered.
So this goes head to head with Darkglass Exponent? Both are modelling amp. But I guess this is more flexible if you want modelling amps.
looks pretty great, price is nice, no aux in?
Are those flats you've got on the Cort Space 5? Been looking into 5 string basses and I love the look of it but didn't want to be restricted with only using rounds
This head should be the same price as the big combo just like the artist combo is the same price as the artist head. Still interested but it’s gonn take me longer to invest now.
the price, and you have to buy the footswitch separately, also overpriced is a dealbreaker...
It’s cool to have that there are so many options on this amp. However the sound just not working for me. I own a boss bass combo and it works really well. But just all the boss amps have a kinda plastic sound which I’m not really a fan of
I love how customizable it is, but to bring a computer and have to set it up and plug it into my amp at a rehearsal/gig would be my personal nightmare.
You can use BT with this, but for some reason Boss insists you buy an adapter. Just include it already.
I think boss should have released different wattage versions of the head at different price points. Kind of like ampeg and fender did in the past.
These days the cost of them would be too close to make it worth buying a lower wattage one, and they have a volume control anyway. Class D amps don't really cost any different whether they are 200w or 1000w. Different price points are just marketing now. Nothing to do with unit cost.
Yep. A Katana in an Elf form factor and they can take my money
I did need a cute amp lol
Chorus into phase into octave sounds like the worst bass signal chain in existence... the fuck!?
I think they're asking a little too much for this to really take off.
Agreed!
Absolutely agree!
Also….why are the bass combos so much more expensive than the guitar amps. Another point is weight, that 210 combo is a horrific weight for a 160 watt amp. The guitar amps are featherweight, I just don’t get how the bass player gets the shitty end of the stick?
is it music man behind you back? what a color, uhhh
It's a sterling by musicman ray34PB in the trans black satin finish.
I’m sorry, but when new gear has the oldest version of a USB port, I’m wondering where else they cut corners.
I’m sorry, but I disagree with you on this. Allow me to explain. Newer physical USB port designs doesn’t always outweigh older port designs, depending on its usage and scenarios. There are specific reasons for many audio companies to keep using type-B rather than newest port, I assume you refer to type-C, till today, and it’s not because they cut corners. Let’s think about what matters for any cable port for communication. Yes, the newer port designs usually support better protocols, higher data rates, and so on. However, the physical structure of the port itself still plays a huge role, when you have to install it on devices for specific usages. NO, devices such as bass ampheads don’t have to have a wastefully expensive and sophisticated thunderbolt port like a MacBook Pro, because it’s not a MacBook Pro which is meant to need such a high data rate. The type-B port supports way enough for a tone editing software. But YES, devices such as bass ampheads do want to have a type-B port over a type-C port, due to the fact that the physical structure of type-B is way more durable and reliable than that of type-C, under specific circumstances that only devices such as amp-heads will be: namely, live and studio situations. To be honest, when having a nice manufactured type-B port that’s super tight on my audio interface, I can literally grab the usb cable and lift my interface without having the type-B cable disconnect from the port. To the extremes: if whatever horrible happened to my gear, type-B port can ensure that the cable is still rigidly connected even the gear itself might be broken at most the time. For a type-C port, I don’t think it can handle stuff like that. Imagining that during a live session, a type-B port is hundreds times more reliable than a type-C. I guess you also concerned about the gradually lowered accessibility to the older ports and cables due to the existence of newer ones and thought about that will cause your inconveniences. But let me help you on this, because of reasons I just told, the older ports will never be completely replaced by the newer ones since there will always be stuff (like I said, audio gears, etc.) that prefers them. Analogy of tubes: tubes were out on 99% of electronic devices and were replaced by transistors, since tubes are outdated, big and fat, fragile, expensive to made, and much more power consuming, compared to solid states. But guess what? Tubes will be forever made because there will be devices that will forever prefer tubes over solid states, if you are familiar with our beloved tube amps. Similarly, don’t worry about keeping type-B port on audio devices in 2024 may cause you any trouble and inconvenience, because the old ports will be forever made just for those gears that still need them.
lol you mean the same USB port that the Quad Cortex, HX Stomp and Kemper's have?
No Aux in or effects loop? Why BOSS? I realize the amp has some effects built in but there are many other pedals out there. Many which sound better in a loop rather than the input. No Aux in, again why? Sure it has Bluetooth built in but requires an optional adaptor. Did BOSS just not care? The lack of these features at this price point is a fail on the part of BOSS.
And just like that the bass player's wallet gets the screws again katana guitar combos offer a pretty good cheap alternative to the other modeler companies but then the same company develops something in the bass market and no dice for that coin id just a soon go where t he name meets the price tag sorry boss you missed the mark on this one you would have been better off creating some sort of bass fly rig that could model great bass amps
No tuner seems a bit of an oversight. Could be an all in one solution otherwise
He did add a mute which was missing from the combos. Boss needs aive version of Tone Studio that does patches and has a tuner.
Too many knobs.
Patrick!!! My question is oh so simple!! Have you ever played a bass through a Versatile bass amp? (BET NOT) Check that name out!
Sorry not made any more!!!
Klingt irgendwie belanglos und künstlich😢
Clips sounded more like synth than an actual bass. I had high hopes, but meh......