*TIMESTAMPS* I'm on Twitch too now! See me live at: www.twitch.tv/aznvasions NEW Gun CO Spreadsheet: tinyurl.com/GunCOv2 0:00 Intro & Context 0:22 Lavos Example Build 0:30 Lavos' Passive 1:31 Ability Nuke vs Weapon Platform Lavos 1:50 One Element Infusion Limit 2:19 Force Procs 2:39 Does Not Force Proc on any AoE 3:03 Flux Rifle AoE Discussion | Toxin Lash vs Valence Formation 3:45 Vastilok | Melee Influence Spread 4:30 Pellet Count Mechanic 5:04 Lua Circulus | L180 - 200 5:43 Valence Formation Demonstration 6:09 Works with ANY Melee 6:38 Always 200% Element | Balancing Elemental Weight 7:24 Ocucor Example | Corrosive Heat, vs Viral Heat, vs infusing just Heat? 8:33 Flux Rifle AoE Failure Demonstration 9:32 Ease of Use | Weapon Platform Lavos 10:17 Status Augments Discussion 11:55 Healing Return Synergy with Vastilok 13:20 Why High Duration? Stat Discussion RE: Lavos 13:53 Which Abilities To Keep for Helminth? 14:16 Ocucor Build Example | Maximizing Heat 14:44 Summary & Outro
This can be made stronger by modding flat toxin and applying electric This means you force proc electric but it mixes with your toxin so you can spread corrosive still while not worrying about status weighting. More electric for the DoT, still get corrosive for stripping
@Aznvasions thank you. It feels good hearing that from someone as thorough and knowledgeable as yourself. Now imagine 2 more things: Lower rank augment for lower weighting or dual ichor with this. Built in toxin so you need no elemental mods, or lower weighting on the status so you can just rely off the forced procs, both levels of augment have their uses ofc, but a lower level one is better in a lot of normal situations/non-dedicated builds. They really weren't thinking with the forced procs AND elemental effects (maybe edit the pinned comment/pin this one so people can see this way of building).
When i do this, i saw a lot of zero initial damage electric proc spread but then the next tick does normal damage. Don't know if its a visual bug or smth else
This works true for Xoris as well. People just slap on electric elements on Xoris when the better option is just slapping on virulent scourge so you can still proc Influence while still spreading corrosive and electric on heavy attacks.
I've finally come back to this game after like 6 years. Wasnt able to merge my account so im restarting from scratch, seeing all the end game stuff has my head in a bucket. Love how this game has changed since 2013.
@@JojoBenihime7780 nop,just shooting at things with modded corrosive and the strip comes from my 2 shards,im sure it could be optimised but i cant be asked rn lol
With 250% duration, cold procs inflicted by Lavos last 15 seconds and radiation procs last 30 seconds. So while his 4th ability might not deal as much damage with negative strength, you can still use it to crowd control in a 25m base radius, which also goes through walls.
In case anyone is curious: No, if you use electricity as the infusion, this forced electric proc does not trigger Melee Influence with Dual Ichors. Buuut it is funny to see enemies with +100 electricity procs after 1-2s in the ichor puddles. (Ichor Build: P-Pressure, P-Reach, Quickening, Weeping, Virulent, Vicious, Shocking, Voltacic; infuse electricity for fun, corrosive + 2 green shards for damage.)
I think you are doing something wrong then? I was getting the procs of melee influence off of it myself as well as corrosive. No need for any status mods, just get electric from augment and I would profit.
@@Dullerrope31 it doesn't as it also force procs. Volts augment gives you elemental same as this but it doesn't force an electric proc at the same time, so you can get both corrosive and still proc melee influence with lavo's augment while volts can't.
Hi, I love your videos, it’s good to have a content creator who understands the game mechanics so well. I just wanted to point out that this actually does force status procs on certain AOE attacks, like the explosion from Exodia Contagion and the explosions from the Hate Incarnon’s spectral blades
Hate incarnon could be pretty good, Contagion is likely regulated to meme territory though as its mainly for 1 shots, not really fast enough for much else. Going to take a look at more AoE effects based off this though...
@@CollateralKaosThe thing with exodia contagion is you can turn it into a full-fledged 20 meter radius nuke by using melee influence paired with this augment. Infusing just electricity will guarantee uptime on the MI buff and ensure everything in the initial EC explosion gets hit with an elemental proc to spread. Hate was already a great melee influence weapon because of the insane radiation CC it provides, and now this augment comes in and pushes it even further
One added note, you can use this on catalyze nukes. The added status effect does apply to your abilities also. This in turn can make catalzyze deal more than double damage when infusing heat and then using it
Man, the placeholder text for these Augments was had me so confused on what they did. The new text for Valence Formation makes it how I wanted. The original sounded like it was Ability damage boost and the matching status on weapons. This way is much more interesting.
@@kingcaz5655 I just tested it and yes, it does work. Tho i assume that chroma with a pt build will still be faster, at least its possible to completely ignore the fight requirements.
If the Valence Formation give forced status procs why not pair it with the Gotva Prime? You would not have to mod for status and get high critical chance.
The only downside I've seen so far with it might be a bug, but the alt-fire glaives on Cedo no longer proc any statuses except the one yoy infuse with his passive, if it is active. If you infuse radiation, the glaives only proc radiation and lose the other five elements they normally trigger.
little upgrade: with mecha mods u can create your own armor from base kills and u get after kill the 2nd corro wave. just use exilus enemyradar and u get it free on auraslot. ->> armor out, mech aussalt in --> aura switch to exilus, aura free for mecha mod
Isn't this insane for a Catalyze Nuke build with Heat Inherit? Giving my epitaph another 200% heat makes it go to 425% heat damage instead of just 225 (with Primed Heated Charge and Scorch) right? Or does the 200% from Valence Formation not count towards modded heat and so not scale heat inherit?
Idk if it is bugged or an official change, I also haven’t tried it with Combustion Beam but Acid Shells and Melee influence aren’t Taxi-ing toxic Lash from Saryn anymore when I tried it in Simulacrum
@@TiredDoktor6391 as of the second hotfix today which said something about fixing a Toxic Lash multishot bug seems to have fixed this issue but thank you for letting me know anyways :)
I feel like the % will be nerfed. Though not sure. I do love Lavos. So getting another build for him is absolutely amazing. Hope they leave it be. Thanks for the video.
Vastilok wins when its status damage. Redeemer wins for raw damage setups. Do note that corrosive will massively dilute the slash weight though, and that Valence formation is fixed to give 200% elemental bonus no matter your strength.
unfortunately not as its status applied by the gun, not the ability. Same way toxic lash can't proc continuity since it makes the weapon apply it but exalted do since they ARE an ability in and of themselves. Would be cool but not useful for most of them anyway since most of the secondary effects or mod's main effects are useless for lavos regardless
You can only have one buff up at once. It can work, but will be super annoying swapping to cover any other missing element. A complete loadout will function similar to meta, since you should have full coverage and Lavos will cover any of the 1 or 2 missing elements, but for incomplete loadouts, it’s only going to be slightly better than just cycling the shield after 5 seconds, because Lavos does not have access to the type of buff multipliers that Chroma/Volt/Saryn have in the meta space.
I would really appreciate if somebody told me, would this work on something like Natauk or tenet arca plasmor that just can hit multiple enemies with a large projectile size and punch through?
uhhh no thats a weapon buff also he already could use all of them but only benefits from 2 mabye 3 of them those being continuity and vitality and mabye intesify but barely
why did they have to add something that makes lavos way less annoying to play and then add dante, who looks amazing?!? now i have to decide between them x.x
No aoe except beam weapons that chain... torrid, kuva nukor, tenet cycron are insanity with this augment, beam weapon firerate plus spread, everything deleted in range with the free corrosive from augment
until u can set his element as a toggle it's a no go shouldn't have to specify corrosive or viral or gas every single ability cast it's slow and lame should be able to set the element and it applies to all ability casts until i change it example: set corrosive... cast 12 abilities, ok now i want viral, set viral, cast 50 abilities right now it's set element, cast once, set element, cast once, set element.... it's the main reason i don't use lavos
at the very least you'll be casting every minute... also if you're not using abilities wtf r u doing anyway its a good idea, good video i have 6 forma and aura forma on lavos, and what i said makes sense, the elements that u imbue the abilities with need to be a toggle, not something u repeat every single time no other warframe requires you to press 5 buttons every time u cast an ability, it's lame and cumbersome@@joshlewis8860
at the very least you'll be casting every minute... also if you're not using abilities wtf r u doing anyway its a good idea, good video i have 6 forma and aura forma on lavos, and what i said makes sense, the elements that u imbue the abilities with need to be a toggle, not something u repeat every single time no other warframe requires you to press 5 buttons every time u cast an ability, it's lame and cumbersome
i tested a buncha melee with influence and all of them work even vitrica aim glide slam combo shit shreds enemys and dual ichor is fucking riduculis slams like exec prob could force proc corrosive and then influence and just profit also yeah none inate aoe cant proc it at all
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0:00 Intro & Context
0:22 Lavos Example Build
0:30 Lavos' Passive
1:31 Ability Nuke vs Weapon Platform Lavos
1:50 One Element Infusion Limit
2:19 Force Procs
2:39 Does Not Force Proc on any AoE
3:03 Flux Rifle AoE Discussion | Toxin Lash vs Valence Formation
3:45 Vastilok | Melee Influence Spread
4:30 Pellet Count Mechanic
5:04 Lua Circulus | L180 - 200
5:43 Valence Formation Demonstration
6:09 Works with ANY Melee
6:38 Always 200% Element | Balancing Elemental Weight
7:24 Ocucor Example | Corrosive Heat, vs Viral Heat, vs infusing just Heat?
8:33 Flux Rifle AoE Failure Demonstration
9:32 Ease of Use | Weapon Platform Lavos
10:17 Status Augments Discussion
11:55 Healing Return Synergy with Vastilok
13:20 Why High Duration? Stat Discussion RE: Lavos
13:53 Which Abilities To Keep for Helminth?
14:16 Ocucor Build Example | Maximizing Heat
14:44 Summary & Outro
This can be made stronger by modding flat toxin and applying electric
This means you force proc electric but it mixes with your toxin so you can spread corrosive still while not worrying about status weighting.
More electric for the DoT, still get corrosive for stripping
This is actually GENIUS, I didn't think of that.
@Aznvasions thank you. It feels good hearing that from someone as thorough and knowledgeable as yourself. Now imagine 2 more things:
Lower rank augment for lower weighting or dual ichor with this. Built in toxin so you need no elemental mods, or lower weighting on the status so you can just rely off the forced procs, both levels of augment have their uses ofc, but a lower level one is better in a lot of normal situations/non-dedicated builds.
They really weren't thinking with the forced procs AND elemental effects (maybe edit the pinned comment/pin this one so people can see this way of building).
When i do this, i saw a lot of zero initial damage electric proc spread but then the next tick does normal damage. Don't know if its a visual bug or smth else
This works true for Xoris as well. People just slap on electric elements on Xoris when the better option is just slapping on virulent scourge so you can still proc Influence while still spreading corrosive and electric on heavy attacks.
@@CollateralKaos I feel Like I know you from somewhere, to be fair.
Let's Go!!! Lavos out here with that equivalent exchange. This makes him kinda feel like Teshin modding his weapons with elements
jojo part 8 reference
@@TheDarkforce95 would it not be a full metal alchemist reference
@@OrangeCreamsicle fmab moment
@OrangeCreamsicle I think that's the joke, cause every anime reference is Jojo reference or so the meme goes
@@OrangeCreamsicleit probs was but jojos part 8 also speaks on equavilant exchange
I've finally come back to this game after like 6 years. Wasnt able to merge my account so im restarting from scratch, seeing all the end game stuff has my head in a bucket. Love how this game has changed since 2013.
Hey bro, connect with me in game, bizzo50. I have some stuff for you
Gas emerald shard strip my beloved
I was ultra hyped for this augment and it DID NOT disapoint,im having such a blast with it,best thing ever
I assume your using the gas strip on the daggers
@@JojoBenihime7780 nop,just shooting at things with modded corrosive and the strip comes from my 2 shards,im sure it could be optimised but i cant be asked rn lol
With 250% duration, cold procs inflicted by Lavos last 15 seconds and radiation procs last 30 seconds. So while his 4th ability might not deal as much damage with negative strength, you can still use it to crowd control in a 25m base radius, which also goes through walls.
In case anyone is curious:
No, if you use electricity as the infusion, this forced electric proc does not trigger Melee Influence with Dual Ichors.
Buuut it is funny to see enemies with +100 electricity procs after 1-2s in the ichor puddles.
(Ichor Build: P-Pressure, P-Reach, Quickening, Weeping, Virulent, Vicious, Shocking, Voltacic; infuse electricity for fun, corrosive + 2 green shards for damage.)
I think you are doing something wrong then? I was getting the procs of melee influence off of it myself as well as corrosive. No need for any status mods, just get electric from augment and I would profit.
@@CollateralKaosJust from the Ichor clouds and no kills, no melee hits, no pets? If so, I will need to do more testing then.
DE changed it so that Melee influence isn't triggered from the ichor's clouds
It should in theory work as Volt's shock augment does work with melee influence
@@Dullerrope31 it doesn't as it also force procs. Volts augment gives you elemental same as this but it doesn't force an electric proc at the same time, so you can get both corrosive and still proc melee influence with lavo's augment while volts can't.
Hi, I love your videos, it’s good to have a content creator who understands the game mechanics so well. I just wanted to point out that this actually does force status procs on certain AOE attacks, like the explosion from Exodia Contagion and the explosions from the Hate Incarnon’s spectral blades
Hate incarnon could be pretty good, Contagion is likely regulated to meme territory though as its mainly for 1 shots, not really fast enough for much else. Going to take a look at more AoE effects based off this though...
@@CollateralKaosThe thing with exodia contagion is you can turn it into a full-fledged 20 meter radius nuke by using melee influence paired with this augment. Infusing just electricity will guarantee uptime on the MI buff and ensure everything in the initial EC explosion gets hit with an elemental proc to spread.
Hate was already a great melee influence weapon because of the insane radiation CC it provides, and now this augment comes in and pushes it even further
talk about efficiency bro, putting out a video ever 2 hours and they aren't just crap they are good solid videos. Unreal
One added note, you can use this on catalyze nukes. The added status effect does apply to your abilities also. This in turn can make catalzyze deal more than double damage when infusing heat and then using it
Man, the placeholder text for these Augments was had me so confused on what they did. The new text for Valence Formation makes it how I wanted. The original sounded like it was Ability damage boost and the matching status on weapons. This way is much more interesting.
Awesome! I was waiting for a new fresh air for Lavos
Does this make lavos good for profit taker?
No. It will confused you a lot
@nguyenhuyduc9151 how so? If you are keeping track of the elements you need it should work no?
@@kingcaz5655 I just tested it and yes, it does work.
Tho i assume that chroma with a pt build will still be faster, at least its possible to completely ignore the fight requirements.
@@emperorwisel4842 awesome, thanks for testing! usually any ability elements were ignored
If the Valence Formation give forced status procs why not pair it with the Gotva Prime? You would not have to mod for status and get high critical chance.
Would Acid shells work with this new augment? Or would our damage be entirely reliant on stripping one enemy before room blows up?
11:16 its confirmed. AznvasionsPlays is a movement god in warframe
add in Thermal Sunder with the augment to get +heat damage too
So....Loki Augment with Mind Control is interesting.
Edit, i just tried it with Rage+Frenzy instead, and I say we have a worthy contender to Speedva.
The only downside I've seen so far with it might be a bug, but the alt-fire glaives on Cedo no longer proc any statuses except the one yoy infuse with his passive, if it is active. If you infuse radiation, the glaives only proc radiation and lose the other five elements they normally trigger.
They need to add some sort of enemy lvl increase to the start of all missions because the power creep is becoming insane.
I feel you netracell is barely any challenge for long time player
little upgrade: with mecha mods u can create your own armor from base kills and u get after kill the 2nd corro wave. just use exilus enemyradar and u get it free on auraslot. ->> armor out, mech aussalt in --> aura switch to exilus, aura free for mecha mod
Isn't this insane for a Catalyze Nuke build with Heat Inherit? Giving my epitaph another 200% heat makes it go to 425% heat damage instead of just 225 (with Primed Heated Charge and Scorch) right? Or does the 200% from Valence Formation not count towards modded heat and so not scale heat inherit?
Finally lavos is op he always been good but no OP now he is incredibly more strong than before
Idk if it is bugged or an official change, I also haven’t tried it with Combustion Beam but Acid Shells and Melee influence aren’t Taxi-ing toxic Lash from Saryn anymore when I tried it in Simulacrum
i just tested both, they both taxi and transfer toxic lash and xata's whisper. so must have been either a general bug or a sim specific bug
@@TiredDoktor6391 as of the second hotfix today which said something about fixing a Toxic Lash multishot bug seems to have fixed this issue but thank you for letting me know anyways :)
Comfort pick for profit taker orb?
i just have been running around with the dual ichor incarnon on lavos and his new passive with melee influence
will it work with glaives with arcane influence?
it works with bassicly everything
@@noahedenborg4221 Thanks for the reply, will try to get this mods now.
how do you do that animation cancel?
5:40
he says the combo
Oh boy, I love Valence Something!
I forget the name constantly too lmao
I need Lavos Prime.
Just so i don't have to check in the video all the time: E>,E,E>,E for the High Noon rotation
Zenistar is really good with this build
Yeah, this augment is good, especially with shotguns
Definitely worth a build
I think they patched Diriga and Electro Pulse in hotfix 2?
I feel like the % will be nerfed. Though not sure. I do love Lavos. So getting another build for him is absolutely amazing. Hope they leave it be. Thanks for the video.
Does vastilok out perform redeemer prime in this situation? I noticed vastilok has a higher slash weight.
Vastilok wins when its status damage. Redeemer wins for raw damage setups. Do note that corrosive will massively dilute the slash weight though, and that Valence formation is fixed to give 200% elemental bonus no matter your strength.
does this make your weapons trigger any of the archon mods secondary effects? since its kinda ability damage
unfortunately not as its status applied by the gun, not the ability. Same way toxic lash can't proc continuity since it makes the weapon apply it but exalted do since they ARE an ability in and of themselves. Would be cool but not useful for most of them anyway since most of the secondary effects or mod's main effects are useless for lavos regardless
no
Insert "Equivalent exchange" joke here
Does this mean Lavos + Profit taker meta?
You can only have one buff up at once. It can work, but will be super annoying swapping to cover any other missing element. A complete loadout will function similar to meta, since you should have full coverage and Lavos will cover any of the 1 or 2 missing elements, but for incomplete loadouts, it’s only going to be slightly better than just cycling the shield after 5 seconds, because Lavos does not have access to the type of buff multipliers that Chroma/Volt/Saryn have in the meta space.
I would really appreciate if somebody told me, would this work on something like Natauk or tenet arca plasmor that just can hit multiple enemies with a large projectile size and punch through?
It should, they are not counted as AOE
@@mrshodos i thought so while playing but i wanted to checl
I am stealing your fashion
I hope digital never nerf this mod 🙏😔.
why would i use this over saryn?
Because Lavos actually outdamages Saryn now due to this augment. But also because, not everyone wants to play Saryn.
@@Aznvasions oh i see
in addition to azn's reasoning, being able to play a tank frame and do well is a nice option for once
So Lavos can now use All Archon Mods
uhhh no
thats a weapon buff
also he already could use all of them
but only benefits from 2 mabye 3 of them
those being continuity and vitality and mabye intesify but barely
why did they have to add something that makes lavos way less annoying to play and then add dante, who looks amazing?!? now i have to decide between them x.x
just do both
@@noahedenborg4221 I was too lazy farming archon shards to support 2 additional full builds
No aoe except beam weapons that chain... torrid, kuva nukor, tenet cycron are insanity with this augment, beam weapon firerate plus spread, everything deleted in range with the free corrosive from augment
until u can set his element as a toggle it's a no go
shouldn't have to specify corrosive or viral or gas every single ability cast
it's slow and lame
should be able to set the element and it applies to all ability casts until i change it
example: set corrosive... cast 12 abilities, ok now i want viral, set viral, cast 50 abilities
right now it's set element, cast once, set element, cast once, set element....
it's the main reason i don't use lavos
It’s a weapon platform build because you’re intended to use weapons not abilities, there no reason to be casting 50 abilities with this build
at the very least you'll be casting every minute... also if you're not using abilities wtf r u doing anyway
its a good idea, good video
i have 6 forma and aura forma on lavos, and what i said makes sense, the elements that u imbue the abilities with need to be a toggle, not something u repeat every single time
no other warframe requires you to press 5 buttons every time u cast an ability, it's lame and cumbersome@@joshlewis8860
at the very least you'll be casting every minute... also if you're not using abilities wtf r u doing anyway
its a good idea, good video
i have 6 forma and aura forma on lavos, and what i said makes sense, the elements that u imbue the abilities with need to be a toggle, not something u repeat every single time
no other warframe requires you to press 5 buttons every time u cast an ability, it's lame and cumbersome
i tested a buncha melee with influence and all of them work even vitrica aim glide slam combo shit shreds enemys
and dual ichor is fucking riduculis
slams like exec prob could force proc corrosive and then influence and just profit
also yeah none inate aoe cant proc it at all
So It's saryn but worse.
only slightly
Less damage saryn, but more tanky
first
This with exodia force on zaws could be stupid.