To boil this down, our options are to Counter them with a jet/heli/wildcat/rail tank (of which, only the wildcat is relatively easy to use). Which you don't have the option of doing if none of those vehicles are available. Use Lis TVGM or Recoiless. Both of which take a ton of skill to be effective with. I get that good pilots should be rewarded for their skill. But the complete lack of effective counters for your average infantry player is beyond frustrating.
The fact that AA missiles are a last resort is just plain dumb. Since they limit them to engineers now too few carry them and they don't do enough damage unless your entire squad takes them. That why good pilots are feasting right now. There is no effective counter as infantry. If your wildcat is on cooldown your team is screwed.
He is a heli main, so obviously he's against any argument for nerfing the little bird or giving infantry actual counters. In other words, he's opinion is very biased
I sqad up with some friends and if we are all AA and play Row AND time the flares, we can take a few helis out. Even so, we can't touch the little bird in the hands of an expert.
@@Mars33172 that's pretty sad that even with a group you can't kill things. Just proves things need a buff or the flares on all vehicles should run out. You get to pop them like 3 or so times and until you die they are out
Not necessarily I took out a fire heli pilot with the recoiless launcher. If your team wants to deal with a chopper it's easily done. However I will say once I hop in that stealth chopper if I'm not dealt with I rack up kills easily. So far my best is 45 I wanna try to make a 70 kill game 😂😂😂
If the only real effective counters are other vehicles, which are not available in every game mode, or relying on mastering the TV missle than I don't know how you can look at that objectively and say "helis are not OP, people just don't know how to counter them." The fact that AA missiles are not even an actual option unless the entire team is using them, which we know isn't happening, then it needs to be acknowledged they are OP. The other thing that is not mentioned in this video is that not only does countering them force a specific play style that is not desirable to many, as an infantry player you effective have zero consistent options to counter attack or stealth helis. Someone going 100-0 or whatever isn't simply a showcase of skills, it is effectively showing that what they are doing has so few effective counters that they can literally just farm the lobby without a lot of worry. If the counter vehicles are on cooldown, if someone else in in them, as an infantry player you have one option that not only takes skill, but also luck against above average players, and it forces you to direct 100% of your attention to doing that one task, so while you are trying to take down an attack heli, the enemy team can farm you because your attention isn't on them, or they can push the objectives which still puts your team in a compromised position. Nothing in the game should be so effective that someone can post a potential triple digit KD, or average a double digit KD while playing. That isn't balanced and to complain that the railgun tank is oppressive to helis is a joke compared to what attack and stealth helis do to infantry.
They need to do what they did in BF 4 , 1 rocket launcher hit and its gone , any type of Helis/Jets and with any Anti Air Missile it took only 2 shots. Clearly the helis are OP in 2042.
They are not OP, there is just a large general skill gap with the current BF 2042 players, some have years of experience, and others just jump unto a game once in a while and haven't got the game knowlegde nor practice to deal with the skilled players
It's telling that even in this video all of the liz missile kills are against pilots that are completely oblivious and not taking evasive action at all.
They should just make flares have ammunition. Say you pop it 5 times then ur out. Could take it a step further and have vehicle resupply in center of map would give more incentive for ppl to pto.
They should give the helis a limited amount of flares, maybe make them like the tank shells were in BF4 where you get a cooldown after firing all your shells. Or maybe force then to go back to a helipad at spawn to road them.
I remember playing BF Play4free (I think its a BC2 spin) and in that game you had to go to your base in order to recharge, which made life a little bit more complicated for pilots
Also using the javelin or stinger makes you a huge target for the heli pilot, it's so easy to pinpoint your location once you fire a missile, and once the helicopter flares go up they could go straight for you and eliminate the annoyence
Before these options you need to mention 3 things: Pilots use the latency to glitch out the hitbox ( If it looks like your shot hit, you see the particles but no hitmarker ) when you use any kind of rocket - reportable and bannable ( i really do not care, if you use a glitch to your advantage you own your deed ). 2nd thing, pilots take advantage of the AA missle launcher bug that does not lock onto them, and 3rd thing, as a pilot you can get onto a lower altitude and any lock you have on, either put by Air, ground ( dart or rocket ) or ground vehicles. This combined with the other 2 glitches people use gives any bird almost invicibility. There are massive fundamental technical problems with the little birds ( and stealth choppers but to a lesser extent ). At this time there is absolutely no effective and open counter what so ever because everything else is extremely limited or downright broken. Edit: Reporting people abusing glitches needs to be a normal thing... it's there for a reason. It's not reserved for pilots, but it's mostly used on idiotic pilots.
Saying that currently there is no counter to the stealth helli and the little bird is just wrong. This all sounds like a huge skill issue, and this comes from someone who hates hearing the term "skill issue". I kill hellis very frequently with Lis and the Tor tank and even sometimes the Wildcat. I would recomend actually trying the methods mentioned in the video before you start complaining.
@@thejohn962 Well, we're a squad that mostly dominates the lobbies ( with vehicles sometimes ) and with the Lis nerf, the AA lock on bug and the rest of the used glitches, it was tough to be on matches with "bird tards" going 200 - 0. Everything was tried, and overtried ( and more ) and no propper results since season 3... The best "bet" is having me or a team member with the recoiless and 6-7 other Rao's on a single heli fron 5 points ( which works since we herass pesky pilots out of games ). If we see that the hitbox is actively tempered with, some reports go a long way.
There s a little bird pilot in Oz called Gashe, he streamed for the best part of a year on twitch , using a script to autoclick on the little bird in the vehicle menu in game. It made it virtually impossible for anyone else on his team to use the little bird at all. He was reported by a lot of the community and dice did nothing. All the while he would be flying headlong into objects and just bounce off them. The choppers should lose control and take major damage or explode on the mildest contact with solid objects.
@@thejohn962 I agree with you to a point. The vehicles you mentioned, are the only ways of taking down helicopters. So I’m not surprised that you take down helicopters with those vehicles since they’re really the only way of doing it. If you’re an infantry and all of your vehicles are on cool down or are being in properly used. You’re doomed. Rocket launchers do little to no damage if they hit the stinger and javelin are absolutely useless in this game.
An underrated method is a bipodded LMG with AP rounds. I was playing a round on Stranded with a very busy Nightbird holding a majority, I found some good spots to give him grief & we ended up turning the round around after that While you probably won't down them, you're resetting their repair counter and chipping away to the point a missile might finish them off, and making them sweat a little. You can be very nimble and if played right you can easily switch targets to infantry and still hold them off too. Additionally you don't have to wait for a tank or miss a gadget
Thanks for sharing, I'm new to the Battlefield saga, the fact that there are vehicles with unlimited health and ammunition blows my mind, many games are unplayable, and looking at this guide you could almost deduce that the only effective way to fight vehicles is with vehicles... well... wow
Older Battlefield games didn't have infinite ammo/the ability to self repair, vehicles had to go to their base or special area that could repair/resupply them, but then I guess the flight junkies got too mad that there was a minor speed bump on their road to 100:1 K/D ratios.
never had issues with choppers in BF3....been killing them with a tank. The problem is a lot of people in BF2042 do not utilize the kits to their maximum. In BF3 you always had 2-3 scouts running SOFLAM and no amount of flares or dodging was going to save a pilot from getting his ass blown out from under him.
One underutilized method of dealing with armor (including air) is the under-barrel armor-penetrating grenades. The armor don't see any lock ons, they reload faster than recoiless and deal more damage faster.
I always catch LATV’s off guard with this. One recoilless round and then switch to an under barrel ap grenade grants you a quick kill and they never see it coming
New-ish player here - I was using the Lissiles HELLA wrong, but thanks to your guide, it was just what I needed to deal with those pesky helos. In one play session alone, I took out three of those accursed things with Lissiles, which was more than the entirety of the time I'd spent playing 2042. It's not often that I see a gaming guide that has useful tips, but yours were, so cheers.
Ill tell you Ghost, Ive mastered Lis well before the buff she got last season, and yes she was pretty OP last season, but I still don't think they should've nerfed her so hard as they did, they limited range, maneuverability which indeed they had cuz it was OP, but also speed? With all due respect here man, the TGM kills you showcased here were of unaware pilots or when they were basically stationary... Dont get me wrong, judging the right moment to fire the TGM is a skill of it's own and you showcased that tremendously well, if you didn't shoot the missiles at those specific moments when the pilots were planning their next engagement or not paying attention, you would've had a hard time hitting them. Skilled nightbird pilots will move constantly even when shooting down the tend to move in a 45⁰ relative to pitch and yaw which they change constantly with roll movements, and stealth hellis are so maneuverable that it's insane. The biggest nerf they gave to Lis is the massive decrease in missile speed even while boosting... Boosting as you said yourself was the only way you could hit a skilled pilot with a TGM. I used to fire it already targeting a future position of the helli and boost it out of the gecko giving less possible reaction time... but now seriously it's almost impossible, they have enough time to react and as the missile won't turn not even a degree in time, it's pretty much getting easier to hit a M5 Recoiless than a TGM at a skilled pilot, against the average pilot still doable... against the ones farming your team... almost impossible.
How ridiculous is it that the Anti Air weapon isn't an Anti Air. And that's gotten worse since the Class Update as there are no Class Synergies with launchers anymore, Sundance, Rao & Angel don't have access to them anymore, which relegates using the AA launcher to a squad with at least 2 launchers an Angel & preferably a Rao. Which is ridiculous.
Lis nerf and broken heli below radar allowed Silk to get a world record of 218-0. That's an amazing feat but highlights how unbalanced the inf vs. heli is. Not just anyone can get 200 but there's masses of pilots who go 50-100 every match. Skill should be rewarded but is this state intended? Breakthrough only has transport heli so that's one option.
Before the patch that put specialist into classes I would run Sundance with AA missile fake out the helis with my special Grande's and while their Flairs were on CD I'd get a guaranteed hit with my AA.
IMO the EMKV90-TOR has kind of a trade-off going on, as it requires learning to acquire an air-target and pre-aim/pre-fire. So low flying helicopters, trying to make use of the "below radar" thing, will have to take the TOR into consideration as a good TOR player will easily take them out. It's basically skill vs skill, as the elevation angles of the TOR are horrendously bad, so no real AA alterantive as a minor elevation advantage against a good pilot, as they can make the railgun useless with a high approach angle almost, which almost always guarantees a kill on the tank. If the TOR is "OP" because it requires skill advantage from the helicopter pilots, one could argue that the helis are "OP" because they cannot easily be countered by ground players.
It is possible to do all of this, but then you're not playing the objective or reviving or resupplying teammates. It's the issue of in a normal game constantly having to change specialist and class in order to do several things, because the rest of the team run around like bots with no clue.
Perhaps in a future version or release, air vehicles should have to go back to base to refuel/re-arm their ammunition. Then they wouldn't have unlimited flares and would not be able to harrass as much. Plus it would offset engies having very few rockets. Would people mind this nerf?
@@honorguard7616 In 5 the AA turrets were shit because the only aircrafts were planes that flew extremely fast, and since in 2042 there are far more helicopters than planes they would be far more useful
@@daviddeandres6324 here is the thing,aimming at a plane coming straight at you,plane would easily win because your TTK was far higher than his,he could break off and take you from various other angles and so on In 2042 the AA emplacement would need to offer more protection I feel
I personally find jets one of the most reliable counters to the nightbird, except the obvious Wildcat AA. If i manage to annoy them particularly in a plane, they'll try to shoot at me, which more often than not, gives me an an easy shot for the 25mm to hit right into their cockpit, sometimes even shooting the pilot out on the first run Even though the spread of the main gun makes it pretty hard, the jets 25mm is one of the best counters for helicopters i've found, especially since the jets' flight ceiling and turn stability got buffed lately
The only counter to helis are wildcats. And even then, the wildcat will be on cooldown, camping on spawn, or a Loadout not fitted for anti air (40/50mm cannon, AG missiles...) So really, there's literally no effective counter against air vehicles other than another air vehicles, which is ridiculous. 1- Stingers are useless. They are extremely easy to avoid and do little to no damage. 2- Liz is NOW useless since they went overboard with the nerf. Now it is hard to even hit a transport heli, let alone an agile little bird and stealth chopper. Not to mention, even when the rocket was "op", that was not a real counter. Why? It wasn't a one hit kill, and it requires as much luck and skill to hit a chopper. So again, not a real counter, never was. 3- Hacking is useless, since for some fucking reason when a chopper is hacked they can still deploy flares which makes no sense. 4- Tagging them with a soflam is useless since you are essentially relaying on teammates to notice that a heli is tagged, and them to have a javelin or an M5. And even then, you can still use flares to counter it. 5- Because of the dumb vehicle spawn system/restriction (where you need to be dead first to use them, essentially encouraging players to wait on the spawn screen), even if you try to use a wildcat with an AA Loadout, 9/10 you won't be able to do so. 6- More importantly, there should be a dedicated AA vehicle, instead on relying on the wildcat, how it use to work in every other battlefield ever. There's no reason to use a wildcat with AA Loadout, since it will then be extremely vulnerable to every other land vehicle/ infantry.
The biggest flaw to Rao's hack is that it warns the vehicle your hacking before it goes through and that is why they can flare before you finish hacking and why its near useless. The range is a bit short for using on aircraft as well. It is probably generally better than an aa missile though since you never run out and it works on choppers in stealth, but with the lack of team coordination to shoot enemy aircraft while they're hacked just expect them to come hunt you down for hacking.
HAHA, the anti-aircraft missiles are by far the worst option for anti-air. That checks out, lol. I regularly use Liz or the Recoiless. And I find that if you run zig-zag toward the heli, they have a harder time tracking you and killing you, giving you a better chance of getting to cover, vs running away.
Good setup for the aa wildcat is the aa cannons like ghost said, agm to defend your self against ground vehicles, and for the utility equip the thermal smoke discharge pretty much works like flares you have to wait till it says incoming missile pop it then the missile won't hit
Try sniping the pilots out with the rorsche (rail gun). Get a big scope, and train your aim. A lot of times pilots are too still when over an objective and it’s easy money for you
Dont forget after a skilled pilot kill to T-Bag him. So most oft time he left the Match or he only trys to hunt u, so your team has time to win the match without get farmed.
They should make the AA missile work like it did in BF3/4 as the IGLA. Fire and forget but also guided so long as you maintain visual tracking. That would be a great counter to overpowered helo pilots as they can't simply flare and escape. Doesn't help that they nerfed Rao and made it so he can't carry the AA missile any longer.
I disagree. You can flare off both TD and SOFLAM. On top of this, the user doesn’t even get any points for marking the vehicle when it’s killed. Why use something to help your team when you having nothing to show for it at the end of the game.
Dealing with stealth choppers is always a pain, some people just sit in the stealth mode the hole round and drop cluster HE If the one wildcat is occupied by a Noob or a Camper, you literally have no options besides trying to fire LISsles, RPGs/M5s or poking it with a Railgun
You could use Irish, drop trophy systems around you, preferably one placed at a higher point, and use a bolt or a jeep (you'll most likely die but it's better than nothing) or a MAV's 30mm cannon. That can really hurt choppers. 50mm too for the jeeps and MAVs. It takes a bit to get used to but those can be very effective anti-air counters. There are flak pods too and that canister shot can be effective on pilots.
I've been sniping heli's out of the sky with the rail gun tank since s3 started. Its not only a great way to take them out with little to no counter, it also is just really funny, especially when the heli pilot is one of those really sweaty and toxic ones
Yall, this is the strategy with AA missiles, coming from someone with a lot of AA kills. Lock on to them Hold lock without firing Wait for them to get nervous and dump flares Quickly acquire relock Fire as quickly as the relock happens and you’re clear of obstructions They will be in the 10 second flare cooldown period and bam a solid hit every time, just make sure you have a clear shot so they can’t dive below too far.
Just picked this up from PS+ and I am in love with solo mode. I'm a mid pilot and staying in the air with other players is a chore and is zero fun. Now I can rule the skies comfortably against brain dead bots. Though they can get a lucky shot in every so often.
I was playing as Crawford one game and his turret does decent chip damage to low flying helis. That and his fast rate of fire I found annoyed the pilot.
I haven't noticed in 2042, but I'd like to see AA in the home base spawn be able to attack and damage any aircraft that fly through or spawn camp and do some sizeable damage. Similar to BF 4. I'd also like the pilots of the Condors to attack choppers more often and not hover over areas to cap. It's really frustrating to get blown out of the air from a tank!
Most effective way to deal with armor and vehicles....SOFLAM it doesnt matter if you pop flares a Rao with a SOFLAM is going to make denying air incredibly easy. Even funnier when you pair him with Angel. Also guided shells on a tank is another method. Its an old method from Battlefield 3 but its funny as hell to shoot a little bird out of the sky with one....even funnier when you dumb fire a regular shell and kill them.
Tv missile tip is about "manual" most basic form of proportional navigation. You need to find such angle that your line of sight to target doesn't move First sidewinders were programmed to use this principle automatically Btw easiest method to destroy aircrafts/helis is actually waiting for flares to be over and immidiately firing 2 aa missiles from wildcat
after last update controlling jets became so bad, especially when zooming on enemy vehicles, it’s too hard to stay on target. Can you please tell me sensivity settings and any other settings for jets for better controlling and targetting or can you please make a video for this. PLEASE.
@@Terminator45845 I was unsure. 👍 I don't vehicle myself, but I love to take them out. Good to know if there's a pesky pilot, I could help an AA by using a soflam.
As a pilot, a good wildcat can lock out an area super well. Also, the flares in a stealth heli do not work against radar missiles at all. My go to, when I have a friend, and can't get vehicles is two squad members, both with the .50, one is a Rao with laser spotter for double spotting action (after first flares), and the second one with a javelin. Even if you can't kill the chopper pilot, he will spend all his time just running away anyway. Been there, done that, sucks, but it's just a part of the game.
I started a game yesterday 8-0...heli killed me next spawn...then again...then again...and again....ended up something like 14-9...had like 6 heli deaths....IMO they are OP
Does anyone else have an issue with unlocking the rail gun tank? When playing the ps4 version on my ps5 I did everything it required to unlock but for some reason I have yet to unlock it and use it idk what to do anymore, I really want to use it but I can’t unless I some how steal it which is really rare to happen.
Hi Ghost! Love the content keep it up 👍 One thing i have noticed is when frinds join on you on ps5 someone in our party gets booted from the game, this is very annoying so if you could raise this issue so dice can fix this bug would be great! Cheers have a great day.
Half my hours in BF2042 I've played in the nightbird. Most often I get shot down is from RPGs when I'm gunning someone with miniguns because I go in straight line slowly. Other case is when I go for 1v1 heli duel or against any other heli high in the air, and I get attacked with AA from ground at the same time, I go down to hide from AA the heli will finish me off ez, I stay up I get the second rocket up my ass when the flares are used up. Third recent one, is from the TOR tank.
No this is the order of operations for jets - Target : Jets -Wild Cat AA -Transport Helios - Regular Helios - all ground vehicles/ Infantry in sights … I’ve been killed by way more Wildcats than anything
Why can’t we just re-initiate the re-arm/re-plen system of BF V. Keep the heli’s as is but force them to break off back to base to get more kit. Might balance alittle better, just my two cents.
Here's how I deal with Helis. I use Lis, the LATV, and the BOLTE or a combination depending on the specific situation. With Lis, you CAN kill skilled pilots without boost, but you have to know when to engage. That takes practice. Same with boost, you have to know when to use it. She, IMO, is by far the most effective deterrent for most pilots, even post-nerf. Many would avoid an area with a skilled Lis player around. The problem with the Wildcat is availability, reach and unskilled gunners and drivers. Same with the Jet and Rail tank. LATVs (with the 30 or 40mm canon) are easy to obtain and a well-placed one can take down a damaged Hind or annoy the pilots enough that they avoid an area. I use them mostly against the Hind. The BOLTE is harder to get but work similarly. You're right about the stingers. They're not as effective as they used to be and work better when several team members are working together. I stopped using them a while ago. If the Helis are low , you're better off taking a chance with the recoiless.
600m range is def not a problem on the wildcat. Well actually, yes it is. Because it's broken. It's by far too much. 400m was perfect. Until they buffed it.
@@darreno1450 the reason why you dont see them shooting down stuff is because only a certain part plays the 30mm flak. And of this part 95% are camping in their own spawn, relying on their AA missiles far more than on their guns. As it's said in the video. You will force pilots to retreat from their current position if you shoot them from this distance. But you wont kill them.
The health of armor rating of them need to be brought down…I mean it takes like 5 shows to take down the larger helicopter and I can never hit the stealth helicopter since when I used the hacking gadget nobody is thinking about shooting and looking onto them lol
Yesterday I got good pilot in opponent with transport hilo with 163 and 0 , got killed by him 7 times T_T. We won that game but still that was painful.
This is my opinion but you guys know when your enemies are really good or if you want a balanced game? I think we should have a option to play with others near your level
Go M5 and beg without shame for some recon to use SOFLAM, I go recon a lot and everytime with soflam tagging enemy vehicle But nobody seem to take advantage, eventually you give up I find that the only effective ways against vehicles as infantry is to work as team, unfortunately BF2042 does not make that easy, most people have chat off, dont use voice chat (im talking to you console players) or straight up dont care, which is unfortunate I dont like battlebit at all, but they nailed the teamwork experience there
Lol I used to be very good at AA....one trick is to hold off on firing your AA missiles. Let them panic into wasting their countermeasures and once they are lockable again then you fire your missiles. Used to work all the time in bf4....doubt bf2042 is much different...
@@kingdarkem I may have to try again maybe the guy was cheating but I could not lock on fast enough even tried the tried and true bf4 bait them into using flares and wait no cigar. Just switched back to the recoiless hope they get close.
Did Lis's missels get nerfed again since this vid? I swear it feels like I'm tickling all vehicles with it. Maybe like 10% of the time it can destroy a vehicle on impact
If you ever see me in a game, our team will not struggle as i hate choppers with a passion. I pick Lis and go hunting all day. Most of my vids are just popping jets and choppers.
ah yes, 6 ways to deal with the OP vehicles.... 4 of them use OP vehicles yourself... interesting whats the other 2 ? ah yes, use the shit that already does nothing hence why people complain in the first place because these things arent as viable...
To boil this down, our options are to
Counter them with a jet/heli/wildcat/rail tank (of which, only the wildcat is relatively easy to use). Which you don't have the option of doing if none of those vehicles are available.
Use Lis TVGM or Recoiless. Both of which take a ton of skill to be effective with.
I get that good pilots should be rewarded for their skill. But the complete lack of effective counters for your average infantry player is beyond frustrating.
The LATV with the 50mm is actually very good against choppers. It hits hard and has a decent effective range.
The fact that AA missiles are a last resort is just plain dumb. Since they limit them to engineers now too few carry them and they don't do enough damage unless your entire squad takes them. That why good pilots are feasting right now. There is no effective counter as infantry. If your wildcat is on cooldown your team is screwed.
Totally agree. They need to only give pilots a limited number of flares. There is no reason they should have unlimited flares.
He is a heli main, so obviously he's against any argument for nerfing the little bird or giving infantry actual counters. In other words, he's opinion is very biased
I sqad up with some friends and if we are all AA and play Row AND time the flares, we can take a few helis out. Even so, we can't touch the little bird in the hands of an expert.
@@Mars33172 that's pretty sad that even with a group you can't kill things. Just proves things need a buff or the flares on all vehicles should run out. You get to pop them like 3 or so times and until you die they are out
Not necessarily I took out a fire heli pilot with the recoiless launcher. If your team wants to deal with a chopper it's easily done. However I will say once I hop in that stealth chopper if I'm not dealt with I rack up kills easily. So far my best is 45 I wanna try to make a 70 kill game 😂😂😂
If the only real effective counters are other vehicles, which are not available in every game mode, or relying on mastering the TV missle than I don't know how you can look at that objectively and say "helis are not OP, people just don't know how to counter them."
The fact that AA missiles are not even an actual option unless the entire team is using them, which we know isn't happening, then it needs to be acknowledged they are OP. The other thing that is not mentioned in this video is that not only does countering them force a specific play style that is not desirable to many, as an infantry player you effective have zero consistent options to counter attack or stealth helis. Someone going 100-0 or whatever isn't simply a showcase of skills, it is effectively showing that what they are doing has so few effective counters that they can literally just farm the lobby without a lot of worry.
If the counter vehicles are on cooldown, if someone else in in them, as an infantry player you have one option that not only takes skill, but also luck against above average players, and it forces you to direct 100% of your attention to doing that one task, so while you are trying to take down an attack heli, the enemy team can farm you because your attention isn't on them, or they can push the objectives which still puts your team in a compromised position.
Nothing in the game should be so effective that someone can post a potential triple digit KD, or average a double digit KD while playing. That isn't balanced and to complain that the railgun tank is oppressive to helis is a joke compared to what attack and stealth helis do to infantry.
They need to do what they did in BF 4 , 1 rocket launcher hit and its gone , any type of Helis/Jets and with any Anti Air Missile it took only 2 shots.
Clearly the helis are OP in 2042.
All the helis are one shot except the transports which are 2. Also, in BF4 the transports were 2 shot so that doesn’t make sense.
you obviously don't use vehicles much because for the most part, it is very easy to get them down (aside from transports since they can be repped)
They are not OP, there is just a large general skill gap with the current BF 2042 players, some have years of experience, and others just jump unto a game once in a while and haven't got the game knowlegde nor practice to deal with the skilled players
You are not a skilled heli pilot i guess?
Helis are so op, takes too many rockets to down them
It's telling that even in this video all of the liz missile kills are against pilots that are completely oblivious and not taking evasive action at all.
They should just make flares have ammunition. Say you pop it 5 times then ur out. Could take it a step further and have vehicle resupply in center of map would give more incentive for ppl to pto.
That would be something to see. Im sure it would piss some of the pilots off XD
Well when I have limited missiles why the have unlimited flares? Make point in base they have to use to resupply
They should give the helis a limited amount of flares, maybe make them like the tank shells were in BF4 where you get a cooldown after firing all your shells.
Or maybe force then to go back to a helipad at spawn to road them.
tbh just increase the damage from small arms fire that why they dont just do circles around points and ignore gun down everything.,
Yes exactly.two person isnot enogh to take down helues.i just gave up and return to bfv
I remember playing BF Play4free (I think its a BC2 spin) and in that game you had to go to your base in order to recharge, which made life a little bit more complicated for pilots
Definitely the problem stems from the short cooldown on flares and how long the flares go off for
Also using the javelin or stinger makes you a huge target for the heli pilot, it's so easy to pinpoint your location once you fire a missile, and once the helicopter flares go up they could go straight for you and eliminate the annoyence
It's why you set up in protected area.
Fire and hide
@@TheAgentAssassin I'm speaking as a chopper pilot, and I've rarely encountered a stinger user I wasn't able to locate
@@NastyCupid I don’t even know if the stinger or javelin even does much damage? if it hits a helicopter it feels like it lightly tickles it.
@@nowsmile790 Javelin 1 shots any heli besides the transport. Stinger deals 65% damage. So no. Thats not "tickling"
Before these options you need to mention 3 things: Pilots use the latency to glitch out the hitbox ( If it looks like your shot hit, you see the particles but no hitmarker ) when you use any kind of rocket - reportable and bannable ( i really do not care, if you use a glitch to your advantage you own your deed ). 2nd thing, pilots take advantage of the AA missle launcher bug that does not lock onto them, and 3rd thing, as a pilot you can get onto a lower altitude and any lock you have on, either put by Air, ground ( dart or rocket ) or ground vehicles. This combined with the other 2 glitches people use gives any bird almost invicibility. There are massive fundamental technical problems with the little birds ( and stealth choppers but to a lesser extent ). At this time there is absolutely no effective and open counter what so ever because everything else is extremely limited or downright broken.
Edit: Reporting people abusing glitches needs to be a normal thing... it's there for a reason. It's not reserved for pilots, but it's mostly used on idiotic pilots.
Saying that currently there is no counter to the stealth helli and the little bird is just wrong. This all sounds like a huge skill issue, and this comes from someone who hates hearing the term "skill issue". I kill hellis very frequently with Lis and the Tor tank and even sometimes the Wildcat. I would recomend actually trying the methods mentioned in the video before you start complaining.
@@thejohn962 Well, we're a squad that mostly dominates the lobbies ( with vehicles sometimes ) and with the Lis nerf, the AA lock on bug and the rest of the used glitches, it was tough to be on matches with "bird tards" going 200 - 0. Everything was tried, and overtried ( and more ) and no propper results since season 3... The best "bet" is having me or a team member with the recoiless and 6-7 other Rao's on a single heli fron 5 points ( which works since we herass pesky pilots out of games ). If we see that the hitbox is actively tempered with, some reports go a long way.
There s a little bird pilot in Oz called Gashe, he streamed for the best part of a year on twitch , using a script to autoclick on the little bird in the vehicle menu in game.
It made it virtually impossible for anyone else on his team to use the little bird at all.
He was reported by a lot of the community and dice did nothing.
All the while he would be flying headlong into objects and just bounce off them.
The choppers should lose control and take major damage or explode on the mildest contact with solid objects.
@@thejohn962 I agree with you to a point. The vehicles you mentioned, are the only ways of taking down helicopters. So I’m not surprised that you take down helicopters with those vehicles since they’re really the only way of doing it. If you’re an infantry and all of your vehicles are on cool down or are being in properly used. You’re doomed. Rocket launchers do little to no damage if they hit the stinger and javelin are absolutely useless in this game.
What exactly is a "latency glitch"?
An underrated method is a bipodded LMG with AP rounds. I was playing a round on Stranded with a very busy Nightbird holding a majority, I found some good spots to give him grief & we ended up turning the round around after that
While you probably won't down them, you're resetting their repair counter and chipping away to the point a missile might finish them off, and making them sweat a little. You can be very nimble and if played right you can easily switch targets to infantry and still hold them off too. Additionally you don't have to wait for a tank or miss a gadget
A sniper rifle does even better. Just headshot the pilot, in most cases it will then crash into smth.
Thanks for sharing, I'm new to the Battlefield saga, the fact that there are vehicles with unlimited health and ammunition blows my mind, many games are unplayable, and looking at this guide you could almost deduce that the only effective way to fight vehicles is with vehicles... well... wow
Older Battlefield games didn't have infinite ammo/the ability to self repair, vehicles had to go to their base or special area that could repair/resupply them, but then I guess the flight junkies got too mad that there was a minor speed bump on their road to 100:1 K/D ratios.
@@rhymingbecktionary this is why I loved being anti tank in BF5
I have said it since BF3.
The choppers should have to land at base to reload weapons.
Tanks should have limited shells too.
I have 3 stingers, he have unlimited flares, like come on, let me restock and him also, but 1 have cooldown and 1 have limit us stupid
never had issues with choppers in BF3....been killing them with a tank. The problem is a lot of people in BF2042 do not utilize the kits to their maximum. In BF3 you always had 2-3 scouts running SOFLAM and no amount of flares or dodging was going to save a pilot from getting his ass blown out from under him.
I’ve been sniping Helios out of the sky with free fire launchers since bf3
If that’s what you want for battlefield you should find another game to play.
This is how it was for battlefield 5 with vehicles
One underutilized method of dealing with armor (including air) is the under-barrel armor-penetrating grenades. The armor don't see any lock ons, they reload faster than recoiless and deal more damage faster.
I always catch LATV’s off guard with this. One recoilless round and then switch to an under barrel ap grenade grants you a quick kill and they never see it coming
Also (after some leveling) the LATV with the 50mm is a chopper killer. You are more likely to find one than a Wildcat.
Yeah it's very good for ambushing. I've even clipped out a few condors trying to push the objective
I love the recoiless. My best time using it (keep in mind imma beginner) was when I sniped a fighter jet that ran straight at me. Best moment ever
New-ish player here - I was using the Lissiles HELLA wrong, but thanks to your guide, it was just what I needed to deal with those pesky helos. In one play session alone, I took out three of those accursed things with Lissiles, which was more than the entirety of the time I'd spent playing 2042. It's not often that I see a gaming guide that has useful tips, but yours were, so cheers.
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Ill tell you Ghost, Ive mastered Lis well before the buff she got last season, and yes she was pretty OP last season, but I still don't think they should've nerfed her so hard as they did, they limited range, maneuverability which indeed they had cuz it was OP, but also speed?
With all due respect here man, the TGM kills you showcased here were of unaware pilots or when they were basically stationary...
Dont get me wrong, judging the right moment to fire the TGM is a skill of it's own and you showcased that tremendously well, if you didn't shoot the missiles at those specific moments when the pilots were planning their next engagement or not paying attention, you would've had a hard time hitting them.
Skilled nightbird pilots will move constantly even when shooting down the tend to move in a 45⁰ relative to pitch and yaw which they change constantly with roll movements, and stealth hellis are so maneuverable that it's insane.
The biggest nerf they gave to Lis is the massive decrease in missile speed even while boosting... Boosting as you said yourself was the only way you could hit a skilled pilot with a TGM.
I used to fire it already targeting a future position of the helli and boost it out of the gecko giving less possible reaction time... but now seriously it's almost impossible, they have enough time to react and as the missile won't turn not even a degree in time, it's pretty much getting easier to hit a M5 Recoiless than a TGM at a skilled pilot, against the average pilot still doable... against the ones farming your team... almost impossible.
How ridiculous is it that the Anti Air weapon isn't an Anti Air. And that's gotten worse since the Class Update as there are no Class Synergies with launchers anymore, Sundance, Rao & Angel don't have access to them anymore, which relegates using the AA launcher to a squad with at least 2 launchers an Angel & preferably a Rao. Which is ridiculous.
Rao should definitely be in the engineer class.
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Lis nerf and broken heli below radar allowed Silk to get a world record of 218-0. That's an amazing feat but highlights how unbalanced the inf vs. heli is.
Not just anyone can get 200 but there's masses of pilots who go 50-100 every match. Skill should be rewarded but is this state intended? Breakthrough only has transport heli so that's one option.
Before the patch that put specialist into classes I would run Sundance with AA missile fake out the helis with my special Grande's and while their Flairs were on CD I'd get a guaranteed hit with my AA.
Except, now Sundance doesn't have that ability anymore.
IMO the EMKV90-TOR has kind of a trade-off going on, as it requires learning to acquire an air-target and pre-aim/pre-fire.
So low flying helicopters, trying to make use of the "below radar" thing, will have to take the TOR into consideration as a good TOR player will easily take them out.
It's basically skill vs skill, as the elevation angles of the TOR are horrendously bad, so no real AA alterantive as a minor elevation advantage against a good pilot, as they can make the railgun useless with a high approach angle almost, which almost always guarantees a kill on the tank.
If the TOR is "OP" because it requires skill advantage from the helicopter pilots, one could argue that the helis are "OP" because they cannot easily be countered by ground players.
It is possible to do all of this, but then you're not playing the objective or reviving or resupplying teammates. It's the issue of in a normal game constantly having to change specialist and class in order to do several things, because the rest of the team run around like bots with no clue.
Supplying reviving teammates is the support class role. The engineer role is anti vehicle / repair your teammates vehicles.
Perhaps in a future version or release, air vehicles should have to go back to base to refuel/re-arm their ammunition. Then they wouldn't have unlimited flares and would not be able to harrass as much. Plus it would offset engies having very few rockets. Would people mind this nerf?
They should have AA canons at points you capture and at home base. V style
You mean those death traps in 5?
@@honorguard7616 In 5 the AA turrets were shit because the only aircrafts were planes that flew extremely fast, and since in 2042 there are far more helicopters than planes they would be far more useful
@@daviddeandres6324 here is the thing,aimming at a plane coming straight at you,plane would easily win because your TTK was far higher than his,he could break off and take you from various other angles and so on
In 2042 the AA emplacement would need to offer more protection I feel
I personally find jets one of the most reliable counters to the nightbird, except the obvious Wildcat AA. If i manage to annoy them particularly in a plane, they'll try to shoot at me, which more often than not, gives me an an easy shot for the 25mm to hit right into their cockpit, sometimes even shooting the pilot out on the first run
Even though the spread of the main gun makes it pretty hard, the jets 25mm is one of the best counters for helicopters i've found, especially since the jets' flight ceiling and turn stability got buffed lately
The only counter to helis are wildcats. And even then, the wildcat will be on cooldown, camping on spawn, or a Loadout not fitted for anti air (40/50mm cannon, AG missiles...)
So really, there's literally no effective counter against air vehicles other than another air vehicles, which is ridiculous.
1- Stingers are useless. They are extremely easy to avoid and do little to no damage.
2- Liz is NOW useless since they went overboard with the nerf. Now it is hard to even hit a transport heli, let alone an agile little bird and stealth chopper. Not to mention, even when the rocket was "op", that was not a real counter. Why? It wasn't a one hit kill, and it requires as much luck and skill to hit a chopper. So again, not a real counter, never was.
3- Hacking is useless, since for some fucking reason when a chopper is hacked they can still deploy flares which makes no sense.
4- Tagging them with a soflam is useless since you are essentially relaying on teammates to notice that a heli is tagged, and them to have a javelin or an M5. And even then, you can still use flares to counter it.
5- Because of the dumb vehicle spawn system/restriction (where you need to be dead first to use them, essentially encouraging players to wait on the spawn screen), even if you try to use a wildcat with an AA Loadout, 9/10 you won't be able to do so.
6- More importantly, there should be a dedicated AA vehicle, instead on relying on the wildcat, how it use to work in every other battlefield ever. There's no reason to use a wildcat with AA Loadout, since it will then be extremely vulnerable to every other land vehicle/ infantry.
The biggest flaw to Rao's hack is that it warns the vehicle your hacking before it goes through and that is why they can flare before you finish hacking and why its near useless. The range is a bit short for using on aircraft as well. It is probably generally better than an aa missile though since you never run out and it works on choppers in stealth, but with the lack of team coordination to shoot enemy aircraft while they're hacked just expect them to come hunt you down for hacking.
Best one for me gotta be the sniper/railgun thingy
HAHA, the anti-aircraft missiles are by far the worst option for anti-air. That checks out, lol. I regularly use Liz or the Recoiless. And I find that if you run zig-zag toward the heli, they have a harder time tracking you and killing you, giving you a better chance of getting to cover, vs running away.
Thanks man! Other content creators seem to be more focused on world records than actually teaching something useful xD
Good setup for the aa wildcat is the aa cannons like ghost said, agm to defend your self against ground vehicles, and for the utility equip the thermal smoke discharge pretty much works like flares you have to wait till it says incoming missile pop it then the missile won't hit
It's for cowards mate. Only cowards hide behind thick steel in a tank.
No skill needed at all.
@@prezzbelikeme I was only trying to give tips on how to get rid of those helis that go 200-0
Try sniping the pilots out with the rorsche (rail gun). Get a big scope, and train your aim. A lot of times pilots are too still when over an objective and it’s easy money for you
Dont forget after a skilled pilot kill to T-Bag him.
So most oft time he left the Match or he only trys to hunt u, so your team has time to win the match without get farmed.
They should make the AA missile work like it did in BF3/4 as the IGLA. Fire and forget but also guided so long as you maintain visual tracking. That would be a great counter to overpowered helo pilots as they can't simply flare and escape.
Doesn't help that they nerfed Rao and made it so he can't carry the AA missile any longer.
Great vid, Ghost; really hate the Nightbird.
There’s another method which requires dart gun or SOFLAM.
This is incredibly effective but it require teamwork.
dart gun is incredibly ineffective since it was nerfed back to the stone ages....lol 12 second target.
I disagree. You can flare off both TD and SOFLAM. On top of this, the user doesn’t even get any points for marking the vehicle when it’s killed. Why use something to help your team when you having nothing to show for it at the end of the game.
Dealing with stealth choppers is always a pain, some people just sit in the stealth mode the hole round and drop cluster HE
If the one wildcat is occupied by a Noob or a Camper, you literally have no options besides trying to fire LISsles, RPGs/M5s or poking it with a Railgun
You could use Irish, drop trophy systems around you, preferably one placed at a higher point, and use a bolt or a jeep (you'll most likely die but it's better than nothing) or a MAV's 30mm cannon. That can really hurt choppers. 50mm too for the jeeps and MAVs. It takes a bit to get used to but those can be very effective anti-air counters. There are flak pods too and that canister shot can be effective on pilots.
Pro tip. Wildcat AA setup. Lock missile. Fire one. Switch to guns. Full auto till over heat. Switch to remaining missile. Lock. Fire. Dead.
Vid popped up right after I just finished watching silk get a 200 plus and 0 deaths game just straight harassing the enemy team. Funny
Great thanks. I jumped in a rail gun tank to deal with a nightbird harassing a point but realized I couldn’t aim high enough 😅
Aircraft have always been OP in BF games with a skilled pilot with good battlefield awareness.
I love soflam, makes even the most experienced pilots nervous xD
Sniping aircraft with the Tor is exceptionally satisfying
I've been sniping heli's out of the sky with the rail gun tank since s3 started. Its not only a great way to take them out with little to no counter, it also is just really funny, especially when the heli pilot is one of those really sweaty and toxic ones
Yall, this is the strategy with AA missiles, coming from someone with a lot of AA kills.
Lock on to them
Hold lock without firing
Wait for them to get nervous and dump flares
Quickly acquire relock
Fire as quickly as the relock happens and you’re clear of obstructions
They will be in the 10 second flare cooldown period and bam a solid hit every time, just make sure you have a clear shot so they can’t dive below too far.
Just picked this up from PS+ and I am in love with solo mode. I'm a mid pilot and staying in the air with other players is a chore and is zero fun. Now I can rule the skies comfortably against brain dead bots. Though they can get a lucky shot in every so often.
Did you try the eblc-ram with missiles? Some seam to be effective against Helis. I tried it and haven't been very successful.
I was playing as Crawford one game and his turret does decent chip damage to low flying helis. That and his fast rate of fire I found annoyed the pilot.
I haven't noticed in 2042, but I'd like to see AA in the home base spawn be able to attack and damage any aircraft that fly through or spawn camp and do some sizeable damage.
Similar to BF 4.
I'd also like the pilots of the Condors to attack choppers more often and not hover over areas to cap. It's really frustrating to get blown out of the air from a tank!
Most effective way to deal with armor and vehicles....SOFLAM it doesnt matter if you pop flares a Rao with a SOFLAM is going to make denying air incredibly easy. Even funnier when you pair him with Angel.
Also guided shells on a tank is another method. Its an old method from Battlefield 3 but its funny as hell to shoot a little bird out of the sky with one....even funnier when you dumb fire a regular shell and kill them.
Very good info to have! I’ve seen the heli issue, and gave up on the Liz rockets, until now. Appreciate the tips!
now i have counters for the nerfs and yes.
Tv missile tip is about "manual" most basic form of proportional navigation.
You need to find such angle that your line of sight to target doesn't move
First sidewinders were programmed to use this principle automatically
Btw easiest method to destroy aircrafts/helis is actually waiting for flares to be over and immidiately firing 2 aa missiles from wildcat
after last update controlling jets became so bad, especially when zooming on enemy vehicles, it’s too hard to stay on target. Can you please tell me sensivity settings and any other settings for jets for better controlling and targetting or can you please make a video for this. PLEASE.
Yeah, when I use the Wildcat, I usually have anti-tank missles instead since AAs aren't usually helpful against good pilots.
Do the anti tank missiles lock on to Laser designated targets, like the M5 does?
@@Scoot_R_Twist I would do that, but I don't have any friends to play with on this game, and I can't say that people using Soflam is common.
@@Terminator45845 I was unsure.
👍 I don't vehicle myself, but I love to take them out. Good to know if there's a pesky pilot, I could help an AA by using a soflam.
For the wildcat, it's good to have the Flak Pod for the F3 seat. If a Nightbird gets close to you and you have that, he pays the price.
I've had the best luck killing choppers with the 50mm on the LATV
I have never once 1 shot any heli with ANY of the launchers... I hit a heli with 3 of Lis's missiles and it was still flying as if nothing happened...
It doesn't help when my teammates go afk with the wildcat or any vehicule actually, like why even grab a vehicule if you are gonna go afk?
Sniping pilots can be a handy method if you're a good enough shot.
As a pilot, a good wildcat can lock out an area super well. Also, the flares in a stealth heli do not work against radar missiles at all.
My go to, when I have a friend, and can't get vehicles is two squad members, both with the .50, one is a Rao with laser spotter for double spotting action (after first flares), and the second one with a javelin.
Even if you can't kill the chopper pilot, he will spend all his time just running away anyway.
Been there, done that, sucks, but it's just a part of the game.
I started a game yesterday 8-0...heli killed me next spawn...then again...then again...and again....ended up something like 14-9...had like 6 heli deaths....IMO they are OP
Heli Status 2042:
Dice loves infantry and nerfs anything that could harm infantry and except infantry itself
AA passenger weapon in the wildcat is king, get a buddy or switch seats 👍
Does anyone else have an issue with unlocking the rail gun tank? When playing the ps4 version on my ps5 I did everything it required to unlock but for some reason I have yet to unlock it and use it idk what to do anymore, I really want to use it but I can’t unless I some how steal it which is really rare to happen.
ah yes, conveniently left out the NTW didn't you
Hi Ghost!
Love the content keep it up 👍
One thing i have noticed is when frinds join on you on ps5 someone in our party gets booted from the game, this is very annoying so if you could raise this issue so dice can fix this bug would be great! Cheers have a great day.
Rogue Transmission BGM! I like
Dumb rockets should ALWAYS be 1 hit kill to air vehicles. The fact that you need multiple dumb rockets to take down a skilled chopper is insane
Half my hours in BF2042 I've played in the nightbird.
Most often I get shot down is from RPGs when I'm gunning someone with miniguns because I go in straight line slowly.
Other case is when I go for 1v1 heli duel or against any other heli high in the air, and I get attacked with AA from ground at the same time, I go down to hide from AA the heli will finish me off ez, I stay up I get the second rocket up my ass when the flares are used up.
Third recent one, is from the TOR tank.
Lmao actually just finished to video and you said exactly the same with AA and TOR.
30mm AA on the wildcat does not have dmg drop off against vehicles
You can also spray the window with a lmg if they get close, the night bird is pretty much all windows
I've done that to Hind's quite a bit recently, but it's only really an insult to them. The transport stays up, someone else gets in the pilots seat.
is LMG+armor piercing ammo viable?
I don't mean like destroying helos, but just make them think like "wow shit, 50% what happened?"
Heli's are so OP it's silly. Also I wanna see you use the tank on a Little Bird.
No this is the order of operations for jets - Target : Jets -Wild Cat AA -Transport Helios - Regular Helios - all ground vehicles/ Infantry in sights … I’ve been killed by way more Wildcats than anything
Didnt they remove the damage drop off from the AA back in season 1?
SOFLAM! never underestimate the power of it. Turns every rocketlauncher to a stinger / javelin ;)
Why can’t we just re-initiate the re-arm/re-plen system of BF V. Keep the heli’s as is but force them to break off back to base to get more kit. Might balance alittle better, just my two cents.
Here's how I deal with Helis. I use Lis, the LATV, and the BOLTE or a combination depending on the specific situation. With Lis, you CAN kill skilled pilots without boost, but you have to know when to engage. That takes practice. Same with boost, you have to know when to use it. She, IMO, is by far the most effective deterrent for most pilots, even post-nerf. Many would avoid an area with a skilled Lis player around. The problem with the Wildcat is availability, reach and unskilled gunners and drivers. Same with the Jet and Rail tank.
LATVs (with the 30 or 40mm canon) are easy to obtain and a well-placed one can take down a damaged Hind or annoy the pilots enough that they avoid an area. I use them mostly against the Hind. The BOLTE is harder to get but work similarly.
You're right about the stingers. They're not as effective as they used to be and work better when several team members are working together. I stopped using them a while ago. If the Helis are low , you're better off taking a chance with the recoiless.
600m range is def not a problem on the wildcat. Well actually, yes it is. Because it's broken. It's by far too much. 400m was perfect. Until they buffed it.
@@Bugfield2042 Is that why I almost never see the wildcat taking down anything in most games? I see them shooting at the sky a lot though.
@@darreno1450 the reason why you dont see them shooting down stuff is because only a certain part plays the 30mm flak. And of this part 95% are camping in their own spawn, relying on their AA missiles far more than on their guns. As it's said in the video. You will force pilots to retreat from their current position if you shoot them from this distance. But you wont kill them.
All u need is 1 rao's and 2 lock on launchers whenever it's locked on for both of yall u shoot it and possibly a tank that's has lock on air missles
The health of armor rating of them need to be brought down…I mean it takes like 5 shows to take down the larger helicopter and I can never hit the stealth helicopter since when I used the hacking gadget nobody is thinking about shooting and looking onto them lol
Every time I set up my rail tank all of a sudden the entire enemy air force start circling around my tank and blow it up
SO are you loving the current missile lock on bug?
Helis are the worst part of every modern bf game smh
Thank you!
method#7 mounted vulcan, by aim it to pilot.
Good vid man. Hope this helps the newer fellas.
Yesterday I got good pilot in opponent with transport hilo with 163 and 0 , got killed by him 7 times T_T. We won that game but still that was painful.
This is my opinion but you guys know when your enemies are really good or if you want a balanced game? I think we should have a option to play with others near your level
You mean skill based matchmaking?
It’s literally if you don’t go AA you lose.
I fully support this message of Anti-Vehicular Knowledge. 👍
Go M5 and beg without shame for some recon to use SOFLAM, I go recon a lot and everytime with soflam tagging enemy vehicle
But nobody seem to take advantage, eventually you give up
I find that the only effective ways against vehicles as infantry is to work as team, unfortunately BF2042 does not make that easy, most people have chat off, dont use voice chat (im talking to you console players) or straight up dont care, which is unfortunate
I dont like battlebit at all, but they nailed the teamwork experience there
Lol I used to be very good at AA....one trick is to hold off on firing your AA missiles. Let them panic into wasting their countermeasures and once they are lockable again then you fire your missiles. Used to work all the time in bf4....doubt bf2042 is much different...
Does not work they can flare again before you can lock on.
@@chrisowens4142 huh worked for me last night...are they at a distance?
@@kingdarkem I may have to try again maybe the guy was cheating but I could not lock on fast enough even tried the tried and true bf4 bait them into using flares and wait no cigar. Just switched back to the recoiless hope they get close.
@@chrisowens4142 if it's pc then yeah maybe but I have never encountered that problem. If you do it and record it I'll be interested in seeing it.
i have a black medal for Lis and I never knew you could BOOST the tv missle >:(
You forgot the 2 easiest ways to take down all helicopters, RAM and MAV AA guns. That's all I use for near 100% success rate first contact.
Did Lis's missels get nerfed again since this vid? I swear it feels like I'm tickling all vehicles with it. Maybe like 10% of the time it can destroy a vehicle on impact
they still 1-shot nightbirds, stealth helis, and jets
@@GhostGamingg have to hit critical spots?
If you ever see me in a game, our team will not struggle as i hate choppers with a passion. I pick Lis and go hunting all day. Most of my vids are just popping jets and choppers.
Skilled pilot? Lol theres nothing skilled about being 100% stealthed and unabled to be targeted.
the stinger is so underpowered xD it's only use in my opinion is to scare off helis, not kill them xD
ah yes, 6 ways to deal with the OP vehicles.... 4 of them use OP vehicles yourself... interesting
whats the other 2 ? ah yes, use the shit that already does nothing hence why people complain in the first place because these things arent as viable...