Yeah Russians don't have time for bull crap And they also don't take any bull crap if you put a clickbait picture you never know what will happen to you 😀
Kind of a waste of time and money if you ask me. Obviously it'll work... Crudely. The science is making it BETTER than traditional suspension and I'm not seeing any proof of that here
Well. It will probably pick up some Chinese RMB coins because of the material used in the coins. But not there isn't any chance it will pick any Australian coins.
Jari Sillanpää Right, no manhole covers in Russia. Those round metal looking objects imbedded in the road at 5:54, 6:55, and 7:02 must have been put there for decoration.
Dude I came up with this idea back in 94 when I was 7 years old. I never made anything, just in my head. I was so happy to see this video! Great minds think alike!
lol,... You, and at least 33 percent of the world's population, ... lol Except Trumps, ... his magnets stop working when they get wet for some reason??
If you need more travel, you stick the magnets on top of each other with a thick copper pin through the middle for alignment, then encase the tall set up with oiled dampening. You can use smaller magnets and replace the existing shocks with the same dimensions.
magnets on top of eachother will not be that much of a difference I think. Better would be to use stronger magnets, because a magnet is rated its force at touching point. Within 1 or 2 centimeters the force is already a lot less. If I remember correctly the formula was: double the distance you get a fourth of the original force.
Thats not how this supposed to work. Idea was, that magnetic force keep the magnets apart. And it kind of worked. The issue is, since the force weakens fast when the gap grows, so suspension travel seem to be short.
Honest to god I’ve always wanted to see someone use magnets as suspensions. You guys made my day!! Finally got that thought out my head and seen it in action
@@numberone-kb2kh Hardly a failure. It's the Rolls Royce of suspension systems with unfortunately a Rolls Royce price tag to go with it.
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1. Mentioned force is what you have to apply to keep them touching with the whole surface, it is greatly reduced even at a few mm distance, so they have very small travel. Such magnets are good to keep it from touching but not to act as a spring. 2. Placing them in the middle is actually creating a lot of leverage. It would work a bit better if those were installed as close to the wheels as possible.
Good! I would suggest two things - mount the whole assembly on a pneumatic bag that would absorb the shock when the suspension is fully compressed, so the shock would not be transmitted to the chassis, and add an electromagnet on each end that would trigger in proportion to the amount of travel - as the axle went higher, a sensor would increase the current to the electromagnet, increasing the resisting force and decelerating the axle movement. That would stop the permanent magnets from banging into one another at the end of their travel, which wears out permanent magnets. Adding shock absorbers, as you mentioned, would take care of the rebound problem and damp oscillations. Good luck with the project!
@@ai7136 they lifted up the car with the swingarms, and when he took out the spring and shock the whole chassis come down almost all the way to crush his hands. That was a lucky moment for the guy.
holy hell i noticed they had the posts under the suspension before the car-almost-crushing-the-guy shot even happened and thought..."nah-they'll realize" (spoiler....they didn't realize)
I think that was a great experiment are you evolving your ideas and trying different configurations and positions on the vehicle. The more you try the more you will discover what's working and make adjustments to improve it. Your not reinventing the wheel your improving its efficiency and effectiveness. Great job.
Que buen video! Nadie lo había hecho antes, es muy interesante, ojalá pudieras hacer la parte 2 o una versión mejorada de esta idea, sería un éxito, eres un genio
Manhole covers, kids tricycles, anvils, screws, nails, and every other bit of ferrous metal in the neighborhood with that amount of neodymium magnets strapped underneath your car. The theory is nice, but I'm sure the end results would be relatively disastrous!🤪
you won't break it. you'll actuate it better. I had trouble with my Suzuki motorcycle, when I would stop at a traffic light, the bike is heavy on plastic and it would not trip the sensor. I eventually tore apart a computer disk drive and installed one of the magnets in the arch area of my right boot (external). When I pull up to traffic lights I just wave my leg over the sensor wire and BAM, it works. Drawback is that it pickes up everybit of metal debris and magnetic pebbles......
QuantumRift There's a little thing that you can buy that clamps on the bottom of your motorcycle that'll trip those sensors when you pull over top of them.
Why is it that only 4 years later do is see this on my feed, seriously, these guys are amazing. TH-cam algorithms are not good at all, i get content recommended that i would never watch, i get content from channels i have asked not to be recommended, the only way i see to block a channel or see a channel is to report the channel as spam only then is it blocked forever from my view. Rant over. These guys actually do things i wonder about, great stuff.
If these magnets have noedymium cores, you probably weakened them a lot by that heat. 80°C is enough for a significant loss. I personally killed few little ones by using glue gun to attach them.
You know what? I am hooked on your video's. It's awesome to see an business owner with a little humor, and curiosity, and then video it. Thank You for your work. Ignore the idiots that thumbs down everything their jealous of in life. Super trains use magnets to hover.
@@imtrash1228 "I highly doubt it would reach the transmission" And you would be correct in that assumption. What is causing the transmission to pop out is the fact that when they took the shock absorbers and OEM springs off the car, they opened it up to all sorts of twists and bends. Those twists and bends combined with all those bumps, are what is causing the transmission to pop out of gear.
I'd like to see an updated version of this with multiple magnets put in column formation on each side of the car where struts would normally be. Perhaps attached to guide rails that lock together but allow up and down motion.
you kill the field when you add HEAT to them try doin this with out welding them, but you did say there is a steel sleeve on it so maybe you did not kill the field
These kind of magnets are freaking scary! Very neat idea! Ideally you'd use electromagnets though so that the junk you gather driving falls off when you power down the magnets, plus without electricity they wouldn't be magnetic, which would make them a lot safer to work with and you can up the current/voltage to get more magnetism- way beyond the ones you used too and to add to the features you could adjust the voltage so operate them like bags and adjust your suspension- more current, more travel/higher ride height. what you could also do to get more travel is stack them- rather than just one magnet on top/bottom you'd do like you do with regular shocks and stack a bunch of magnets and just ride on air
The challenge to overcome is that the force of the magnets pushing away from each other weakens exponentially with distance. The 600 kg capacity could be accurate, but only at a distance of zero. I would love to see the results if someone could find a solution to that. Maybe a stack of them vertically...
We used to have a stack of thin magnet discs and a guide rail at school it was easy enough to squash a few magnets together, but fairly difficult to compress them down enough to fit all of them on the rail if placed entirely in opposing pairs
Stack a number of magnets inside of a copper tube so they're arranged to repel each other. The magnets should generate eddy currents when they try to move through the copper. The eddy currents will induce an opposing magnetic field against each moving magnet and might do some level of dampening. Not sure how you'd cap off the ends to keep the magnets contained and allow the assembly to be mountable. I imagine it to be set up to replace coil springs.
Strange as it may sound but well practically it was experimented that is the hallmark of this channel. They do what others think it is weird ...and still infuse lot of fun.
But doubled and put in place of springs with articulated mounts maybe an all thread as a guide rod with heim joint end and a large nut to limit extension over travel. a steel cap with a threaded center could replace an upper spring cup and a lower plate mounted to the lower control arm you could avoid welding to the magnet, run a set of shocks and Bob's your auntie
Taskin, watch again . they did not weld ( the magnet portion ) . They drilled through the metallic center then through the square iron to provide a hole for the guide. Any welding done was not done on the magnet.
Hey Garage 54: THX for the Russian to English translation, really appreciate it, awesome videos, love the crazy ideas and possible practical implementations ;-)
i drew a plan 28 yrs ago about doing magnets on bumpers to stop cars from bumping into each other, then in 1998 I did a magnetic strut in a column aluminium sleeve with magnets in them worked fine.
Not the best comment 😂 this is not at all how Audis magnetic ride works. It’s still a conventional shock and spring set up with only the viscosity of the fluid in the shock being affected by magnets 😂😂😂 there is no magnet to “overcome” hahah dumbass
I thought a magnet engine. Opposing pistons/magnets that can be reversed/timed via electric solenoids. Free energy. No combustion or exhaust, just magnets replacing fuel and the piston/head.
I bet with some coils around those magnets as they move up and down you could generate some electrical current to help place some current back into the battery along with regenerative braking on a battery powerd car..great vedio best wishes from the usa
@@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi Why buy stuff when you have tons of crap laying around that you can fabricate up? Itll only take a little bit of a shitload more time than expected.
You should make Vertical magnetic suspension. E.g. 3magnets in a vertical guide, North-north-south-south. So the total gap is for example 20mm instead of just 10mm on each side
@@JtagSheep just following that thought pattern too, but mounted in a guide tube with the last on an extended plunger and located back in spring well...
It works pretty well for a first prototype, maybe with other types of magnets in a Halbach configuration and some diamagnetic container that protect the magnets from attracting things and redirect the magnetic field even more, the suspension could be more efficient. Plus with some flat coils it could harvest a bit of energy like regenerative brakes.
I suggest some rudimentary system associated with the existing permanent magnets but now with an active system made with some strong electromagnets driven straight in the suspension with a LM555 comparator integrated circuit with a zero point and sensors put to the shafts to establish some stability and correction action powered with an additional 12V car battery for each wheel, maybe just the one extra battery does it. Maybe I'm crazy, everybody I know calls me that. How about a second permanent alternator to power/drive this suspension and suspension battery (supposedly).... thank you again Garage 54 for this experiment, it was really great. I congratulate you for this effort. Well this is not a blueprint for nanotechnology, but I throw my cents in it for it already.
hats off to all of you for attempting to do this! what about electromagnets instead of magnets on the car frame? would probably draw a lot of currents through the coils but might be able to produce more repulsion? who knows? batteries would be heavy and need to be recharged etc. lots of challenges here too
Awesome video. The idea is fantastic, but you would probably benefit from using an electromagnetic setup, reversing polarity. Have them wired up to the car battery or a separate power source within the car.
As you said these are supposed to have 600kg of pulling force each, but a much weaker repulsive force, then it makes more sense to use their much stronger pulling force instead. Try using two of them mounted on the fixed top beam pulling against the steel of the moving bottom beam and two mounted on the moving bottom beam pulling against the fixed steel of the top beam...Then you have a perfectly balanced pulling force in both directions which will keep the magnets apart and it will be far more powerful than the repulsive force between 8 opposed magnets. It is basically the same principle used for spokes on bicycle wheels, which pull the rim towards the hub and simultaneously pull the hub towards the rim...making a far stronger and lighter wheel.
Welding produces a shit ton of heat and you can weld magnetized steel but you have to heat it up to u do the magnetism. Or else you can even get an arch going
I saw the video this is quite good, I have an idea for the same When install it keep the magnet level a few CM away from each other. Mean touch point need to gaping If the car moving it will work but the magnet will not touch each other for life time. And for sides from where you maintain the gaping hard rubber which is more time good for heavy load if touch the sides it will not sound and will use properly.
You should try another one using magnets in a copper pipe. Eddy currents actually behave similarly to a damper in that they slow movement. The problems with magnetic springs is that lose magnetic force exponentially as distance between them grows.
@@flyingschoolbus9557 Not magnetic suspension, magnetorheological dampers (yes did have to google that word lol). These guys are using magnets for springs, completely different effect. If it wasn't for the weight and cost of the magnets, this isn't a terrible idea. You get progressive spring rate with a virtually maintenance free design.
I've seen some really crazy stuff in Russia. They make tanks out of old Ladas, snow riders out of anything or anfibious machines out of Ladas too. Nothing stops them. Kudos to the Russian folk inventions.
Scotty is likely already making another "5 Things (Scotty says) you should never do to your car". Then at the end he'll imply that everything other than Toyota or Honda is dogshit.
I think it would be cool to try this but to put all the magnets in a tube with a guide pin the the center and it would hopefully fit where your original shock absorbers were located. I would use a threaded center pin so you can compress all the mangets together for installation and it would be somewhat adjustable afterward. Great video with a good proof of concept.
1:35 holy heck! I'm glad buddy didn't lose a hand! I think more magnets = more travel. Try it! Also, I don't have any blueprints for you, but I'm sure you guys could come up with an electromagnetic suspension.
You'd think this guy is 100% clickbait but holy crap everything is real
These guys are just the best! Their experiments are so awesome!
All of thease ideas came about after ALLOT of vodka!
Yeah Russians don't have time for bull crap
And they also don't take any bull crap if you put a clickbait picture you never know what will happen to you 😀
Him and Master Milo they're both killin it. With the non clickbait crazyness
Kind of a waste of time and money if you ask me. Obviously it'll work... Crudely. The science is making it BETTER than traditional suspension and I'm not seeing any proof of that here
Does it pick up lost coins from the streets?
Well. It will probably pick up some Chinese RMB coins because of the material used in the coins. But not there isn't any chance it will pick any Australian coins.
No, just manhole covers.
@@erikj.2066 in russia is no manhole covers
Erik J. Lmao
Jari Sillanpää Right, no manhole covers in Russia. Those round metal looking objects imbedded in the road at 5:54, 6:55, and 7:02 must have been put there for decoration.
"Is it safe?"
"Who knows? Let's test it on the public roads!"
Not only that but it’s Russian public roads so they’re extra brutal on the car lol.
Didn’t like to preserve 69 likes 👍
well who cares really, It's Russia.
Best laugh ever
Sounds like a quote from Elon Musk.
Dude I came up with this idea back in 94 when I was 7 years old. I never made anything, just in my head. I was so happy to see this video! Great minds think alike!
lol,... You, and at least 33 percent of the world's population, ... lol
Except Trumps, ... his magnets stop working when they get wet for some reason??
Russians playing with permanent magnets and everyone still has their fingers. I'm amazed lol
Cpt.AirWolf I was waiting when we was pulling it off the vise. He was lucky in my opinion.
yeah pretty lacking on safety,could have ended pretty badly
@@pukevery1 Same here, I said out loud at my screen, "watch your fingers."
In the Soviet Russia, the permanent magnets have to keep themselves safe from YOU
Almost lost his hand at 1:34
*Japan:* We created the first maglev commuter train.
*Garage 54:* Hold my vodka..
Actually not Japan, Germans did it
@@themichael3410 But they tried two times, and both times were unsuccessful.
@@themichael3410 are u dumb?
Hold my bear...
And bose allready created this but was two exspesive two produce
If you need more travel, you stick the magnets on top of each other with a thick copper pin through the middle for alignment, then encase the tall set up with oiled dampening. You can use smaller magnets and replace the existing shocks with the same dimensions.
And increase the gaps of many smaller magnets, right? Awesome idea!
magnets on top of eachother will not be that much of a difference I think. Better would be to use stronger magnets, because a magnet is rated its force at touching point. Within 1 or 2 centimeters the force is already a lot less. If I remember correctly the formula was: double the distance you get a fourth of the original force.
**Car bottoms out on every hairline crack on the street** "These magnets are doing a great job" hahahahah
Upgrading to 10 or 12 magnets might help, but it would weigh a tonne!
@@paulf1071 shows the potential direction of technology
@@SnD340 Yeah it's worth investigating. The benefits of frictionless sus would be great.
@@paulf1071 frictionless **sus**
@@pixeldotcreator4415
I’ve never got the sus thing but
*_WHO CALLS SUSPENSION SUS!?_* 😂
Should have used a rubber gasget between the magnets to soften the contact.
Or proper bump-stops.
@@mysock351C ... Do you really expect proper anything from this channel?
Or do oem and make a cylinder fill it with a ferrous solution and seal it, but soften the sudden shock
Thats not how this supposed to work. Idea was, that magnetic force keep the magnets apart. And it kind of worked. The issue is, since the force weakens fast when the gap grows, so suspension travel seem to be short.
@@TheAttacker732
The nasa pen russian pencil (fake ) story .... Eh it works.
Honest to god I’ve always wanted to see someone use magnets as suspensions. You guys made my day!! Finally got that thought out my head and seen it in action
And seen it as a failure
@@numberone-kb2kh
Hardly a failure. It's the Rolls Royce of suspension systems with unfortunately a Rolls Royce price tag to go with it.
1. Mentioned force is what you have to apply to keep them touching with the whole surface, it is greatly reduced even at a few mm distance, so they have very small travel. Such magnets are good to keep it from touching but not to act as a spring.
2. Placing them in the middle is actually creating a lot of leverage. It would work a bit better if those were installed as close to the wheels as possible.
I applaud you. All your videos have never been clickbait.
Title always the truth, never exaggeration or a lie.
The dubbing deserves some praise! I don't think you'd have this many views without it!
Russians do crazy shit and Americans wanna see it
trabladorr way more views if he wouldn’t leave the Russian dude talking in the background when he’s dubbing over it.
@@XDANmanXxx So you want the editor to edit out the star? Sounds like solid advice.
@@trabladorr Uh yes edit him out. The Japanese star of pokimon isn't the star in America...
trabladorr he is not a star, native viewers call him "bold" or "Toretto" and always criticize him for sports betting ads
When the magnets cost more than the car
Where can I buy magnets that cheap ?
@@sporehux8344 china
@@silent_shadow6157 with virus on them
@@canss1951 🤣
@@canss1951 ok, a prevision?
Good! I would suggest two things - mount the whole assembly on a pneumatic bag that would absorb the shock when the suspension is fully compressed, so the shock would not be transmitted to the chassis, and add an electromagnet on each end that would trigger in proportion to the amount of travel - as the axle went higher, a sensor would increase the current to the electromagnet, increasing the resisting force and decelerating the axle movement. That would stop the permanent magnets from banging into one another at the end of their travel, which wears out permanent magnets. Adding shock absorbers, as you mentioned, would take care of the rebound problem and damp oscillations. Good luck with the project!
1:34 he's lucky he didn't crush his hand or lose a finger
No he is not, the weight is on the car lift and not on the wheels
@@ai7136 they lifted up the car with the swingarms, and when he took out the spring and shock the whole chassis come down almost all the way to crush his hands. That was a lucky moment for the guy.
@@ai7136 yeah!!!!! he was lucky....
cut
Or whole car falls off lift...
>Car is lifted by the axle
>Removes suspension
>Car doesn't fall on his head for some slav reasons
Anything is possible if you’re Russian enough
bushings were tightened properly when they were on the ground?
The car knows it will go to gulag if it does fall.
his hand was right between the axle and the body when it dropped, dude was really lucky
holy hell i noticed they had the posts under the suspension before the car-almost-crushing-the-guy shot even happened and thought..."nah-they'll realize" (spoiler....they didn't realize)
I gotta admit. I saw the thumbnail and got pretty excited!
Ikr
Meeeee too ofc
Wait. This video isn't worth my time?!?!
Did you get a chubby?
@@daybot9592 *Erection*. The word adults use is Erection.
I think that was a great experiment are you evolving your ideas and trying different configurations and positions on the vehicle.
The more you try the more you will discover what's working and make adjustments to improve it.
Your not reinventing the wheel your improving its efficiency and effectiveness.
Great job.
Thank you for providing the English voice over! This experiment is such a cool idea! Subscribed!
This Russian uncle has just reached maximum overslav level engineering.
Powerslav
Vladimir technogineering!!
Stop lampooning!
@@RepairRenovateRenew this is the word, POWERSLAV
Compared to standard Lada suspension, anything would be an improvement.
I think even that suspension can't fix ride in that car 😅
What are the last 3/4 to a Lada manual?
The plans and times of public transport
Martian74 agreed, I traveled in one on a train track. That was hell.
least lada had metal alloy in engine bmw used plastic
Lada niva still the best 4x4 buck for buck off roader
a lot of great ideas came from people working in a garage experimenting like u guys do . talent mixed with the desire to have fun cant beat it.
Que buen video! Nadie lo había hecho antes, es muy interesante, ojalá pudieras hacer la parte 2 o una versión mejorada de esta idea, sería un éxito, eres un genio
I was expecting to see a load of manhole covers under your car when you got back to the garage.
under rated comment xD
damn nice comment :)
Manhole covers, kids tricycles, anvils, screws, nails, and every other bit of ferrous metal in the neighborhood with that amount of neodymium magnets strapped underneath your car. The theory is nice, but I'm sure the end results would be relatively disastrous!🤪
www.coolmagnetman.com/magshield.htm
Fucking right?! Hahaha
This will help me with my extensive hobby of collecting metallic road debris.
I hope I break every signal actuator I stop on.
The light is now green... forever
you won't break it. you'll actuate it better. I had trouble with my Suzuki motorcycle, when I would stop at a traffic light, the bike is heavy on plastic and it would not trip the sensor. I eventually tore apart a computer disk drive and installed one of the magnets in the arch area of my right boot (external). When I pull up to traffic lights I just wave my leg over the sensor wire and BAM, it works. Drawback is that it pickes up everybit of metal debris and magnetic pebbles......
@@QuantumRift en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbole
Where do you live that has a wire to activate traffic lights?
QuantumRift
There's a little thing that you can buy that clamps on the bottom of your motorcycle that'll trip those sensors when you pull over top of them.
Garage 54 is my favorite subscription . You guys will try anything... right on.
Why is it that only 4 years later do is see this on my feed, seriously, these guys are amazing. TH-cam algorithms are not good at all, i get content recommended that i would never watch, i get content from channels i have asked not to be recommended, the only way i see to block a channel or see a channel is to report the channel as spam only then is it blocked forever from my view. Rant over.
These guys actually do things i wonder about, great stuff.
If these magnets have noedymium cores, you probably weakened them a lot by that heat. 80°C is enough for a significant loss. I personally killed few little ones by using glue gun to attach them.
Little magnets or little ones as in children?
@@drockjr lol. I mean little magnets(2*2*1 mm btw). I didnt expected that, in my native language it could be understood right...
@Jimmy De'Souza @MartinJanesik Your English is fine, I'm just being an idiot
@@martin913913 nah, I'm just being an idiot
@Jimmy De'Souza mind elabourating on that stereotype? I've searched on Google but can't find anything
Congratulations sir for your modern Russian luxury car.
with an emphasis on luxury ;)
"Now with real oil"
It reminds me of my brothers old ford explorer from 19 something something
"Does 1 hectare to a single tank of kerosene"!!
"Put it in "H"...."!
Put a spring in the center of both the magnet and its road, the gate will act as suspension. That will solve your problem too. good suspension work
You know what? I am hooked on your video's. It's awesome to see an business owner with a little humor, and curiosity, and then video it. Thank You for your work. Ignore the idiots that thumbs down everything their jealous of in life.
Super trains use magnets to hover.
7:53 Guy: "Why does the transmission keep popping out of gear?" -Me: looks in direction of magnets....
@Sean Grahame you think twice about the pulling force from these magnets
@@rafalbuijs5061 I highly doubt it would reach the transmission
when you upgrade your car but at the same time discover a new fuckup
@@imtrash1228
"I highly doubt it would reach the transmission"
And you would be correct in that assumption.
What is causing the transmission to pop out is the fact that when they took the shock absorbers and OEM springs off the car, they opened it up to all sorts of twists and bends.
Those twists and bends combined with all those bumps, are what is causing the transmission to pop out of gear.
Love the descriptive text of your reaction! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Please do this again..with shocks and enough magnets.👍
and magnets should be at the place of removed springs
aa3smit please do
@@areyouavinalaughisheavinal5328 Why can't magnetic field absorb shocks?
Yes
Magnetic shocks
I'd like to see an updated version of this with multiple magnets put in column formation on each side of the car where struts would normally be. Perhaps attached to guide rails that lock together but allow up and down motion.
I’d love to seen you running some tuneable shocks with this setup. Another fine watch guys.
"local scenic road"
Sounds like russia
Andrew bad thing that it’s not lifeless, we actually have such roads a lot...
Sounds about russian
Self-irony
It’s the same here in Canada
you kill the field when you add HEAT to them try doin this with out welding them, but you did say there is a steel sleeve on it so maybe you did not kill the field
Such small welds wont do too much harm with the steel/iron sleeve around it
Agreed, that amount of heat required to weld them would have seriously killed that magnet.
Permanent magnets can be easily re magnetized.
And judging by thickness of sleeve it would be a non issue
welding is the word you use for doing the work in english , welder is the name of the unit!! but yes
These kind of magnets are freaking scary! Very neat idea! Ideally you'd use electromagnets though so that the junk you gather driving falls off when you power down the magnets, plus without electricity they wouldn't be magnetic, which would make them a lot safer to work with and you can up the current/voltage to get more magnetism- way beyond the ones you used too and to add to the features you could adjust the voltage so operate them like bags and adjust your suspension- more current, more travel/higher ride height. what you could also do to get more travel is stack them- rather than just one magnet on top/bottom you'd do like you do with regular shocks and stack a bunch of magnets and just ride on air
The challenge to overcome is that the force of the magnets pushing away from each other weakens exponentially with distance. The 600 kg capacity could be accurate, but only at a distance of zero.
I would love to see the results if someone could find a solution to that. Maybe a stack of them vertically...
We used to have a stack of thin magnet discs and a guide rail at school it was easy enough to squash a few magnets together, but fairly difficult to compress them down enough to fit all of them on the rail if placed entirely in opposing pairs
me: waiting anxiously for triple truck engine lada
also me: getting a sci-fi hovercraft instead
Mee too! Lmfao👋🤣👍
That would be more square tube than Lada. May as well tack weld some Lada fenders on an old tank and call it a converted Lada.
@@D4Z35 YoU CAn'T DenY The TrUTh DaRreLL
They have a Russian channel, they also realese that video months ago
You guys are doing stuff that has never been attempted on TH-cam!! Bravo Men!!
I fucking love Russians for shit like this
Check out the Bose magnetic suspension video
@@DomV123 I love that video
Stack a number of magnets inside of a copper tube so they're arranged to repel each other. The magnets should generate eddy currents when they try to move through the copper. The eddy currents will induce an opposing magnetic field against each moving magnet and might do some level of dampening. Not sure how you'd cap off the ends to keep the magnets contained and allow the assembly to be mountable. I imagine it to be set up to replace coil springs.
Strange as it may sound but well practically it was experimented that is the hallmark of this channel. They do what others think it is weird ...and still infuse lot of fun.
Wat about Getting stuck on an iron bridge... 😂😁
there are no iron bridges in russia
Drive over manhole cover and suddenly PANG
How about one magnet loose on between magnets?
Like I-+ +- -+I
DRD 144 good way to get more travel
what I was exactly thinking about
This
But doubled and put in place of springs with articulated mounts maybe an all thread as a guide rod with heim joint end and a large nut to limit extension over travel. a steel cap with a threaded center could replace an upper spring cup and a lower plate mounted to the lower control arm you could avoid welding to the magnet, run a set of shocks and Bob's your auntie
They have rotate the one row of magnets.
عندك أفكار تبدوا جنونية لاكنها رائعة لكونها تتضمن شروحات غير مباشرة.
This is the best ideea i have ever seen. I think it can work better than standard
shock. You should patent this invention.
You should have used nuts and bolts, extreme heat from welding must have weakened the magnet
Taskin I’m glad I’m not the only one seeing the value here.
Eric Heisler yes, maglev is important tech
I guess it's less heat then drilling?, also the would likely break
No need to drill, magnets have hole at centre
Taskin, watch again . they did not weld ( the magnet portion ) . They drilled through the metallic center then through the square iron to provide a hole for the guide. Any welding done was not done on the magnet.
Hey Garage 54: THX for the Russian to English translation, really appreciate it, awesome videos, love the crazy ideas and possible practical implementations ;-)
+joe use google translate
Extremly crazy idea ... but the thought behind it is absolutely brilliant. If it would be more optimized, you could be a millionaire
It's more like a rudimentary Bose suspension. They used computers, but magnets do the job nearly alright.... thank you garage 54.
You totally killed the magnets by welding them. Too hot.
They welded the steel casings, not the neodymium and clearly they do still work
@@skeezixmccat they arent as strong as they were. Put heat on a magnet and see what happens
Yup. When I saw that I was disappointed. They should have used bolts.
@@Im_Schizgiven Fourier's law of thermal conductance, i say he would be lucky if those magnets were half of their potential after welding
they only spotwelded them. with that thick of a steelcasing there is no way they would have lost any potential.
I thought of the same concept 6 years ago. But never worked on it. I am happy that this actually works in the practical world. Great work!!
It's rather sad when you come up with these amazing ideas, but never try to materialize them.
@@wolfenstien13 Not many have the resources or the connections to realize their ideas.
i drew a plan 28 yrs ago about doing magnets on bumpers to stop cars from bumping into each other, then in 1998 I did a magnetic strut in a column aluminium sleeve with magnets in them worked fine.
Garage 54: Russian but with English guy speaking
My Audi has "MagRide" suspension, and I concur that once a pothole overcomes the magnets, the bump stops are spine crushing.
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Not the best comment 😂 this is not at all how Audis magnetic ride works. It’s still a conventional shock and spring set up with only the viscosity of the fluid in the shock being affected by magnets 😂😂😂 there is no magnet to “overcome” hahah dumbass
They need to be inside of cylinders like a piston, instead of having a guide rod.
Why not both?
@@chappiedatass1361 EUREKA!!!!!
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Use Electromagnet for suspension + it can be adjusted
I thought a magnet engine. Opposing pistons/magnets that can be reversed/timed via electric solenoids. Free energy. No combustion or exhaust, just magnets replacing fuel and the piston/head.
Not finished watching....the concept of this is awesome!!!!!........
I bet with some coils around those magnets as they move up and down you could generate some electrical current to help place some current back into the battery along with regenerative braking on a battery powerd car..great vedio best wishes from the usa
Put the magnets inside a thick walled copper tube and it will act like a shock absorber.
gene S. Oh hell yeah!! That would be cool. Plug you get an electric current to run the car... too complicated? But go ahead and make some shocks.
Wouldn't those be shocking shocks?
Just fill the tube with oil and yep, but its far easier to just buy airbags if you want this kind of basic suspension
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Why buy stuff when you have tons of crap laying around that you can fabricate up?
Itll only take a little bit of a shitload more time than expected.
Great idea, using lenz Law to do the absorbing! it will resist more with faster movement and less with slower always the nicest ride :)
You should make Vertical magnetic suspension. E.g. 3magnets in a vertical guide, North-north-south-south. So the total gap is for example 20mm instead of just 10mm on each side
Great idea :D I would like to see how that works out.
Im thinkin there would be tomuch of a chance of sliding due to the fields around (they would want to kick left or right )
@@jbstepchild Thats why you keep the guide rods...
Big brain
@@JtagSheep just following that thought pattern too, but mounted in a guide tube with the last on an extended plunger and located back in spring well...
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Honestly, that's a pretty brilliant idea.
It works pretty well for a first prototype, maybe with other types of magnets in a Halbach configuration and some diamagnetic container that protect the magnets from attracting things and redirect the magnetic field even more, the suspension could be more efficient. Plus with some flat coils it could harvest a bit of energy like regenerative brakes.
I wonder why the engineers don't put magnets in the stop of the suspension when the piston comes to end.
@@monad_tcp rubber bumpers cost a nickel... A magnetic stop setup will be cost prohibitive.
Thank you for the english translation guys. Love seeing this guy mess with cars just for then fun of it. Keep it up
I suggest some rudimentary system associated with the existing permanent magnets but now with an active system made with some strong electromagnets driven straight in the suspension with a LM555 comparator integrated circuit with a zero point and sensors put to the shafts to establish some stability and correction action powered with an additional 12V car battery for each wheel, maybe just the one extra battery does it. Maybe I'm crazy, everybody I know calls me that. How about a second permanent alternator to power/drive this suspension and suspension battery (supposedly).... thank you again Garage 54 for this experiment, it was really great. I congratulate you for this effort. Well this is not a blueprint for nanotechnology, but I throw my cents in it for it already.
There's no way this only came out 10 months ago, it feels like an eternity has passed since I last saw this video
I think the magnets will do a great job cleaning up road hazards such as nails...
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Great video. Make a floating bench or chair for your shop with the left over magnets. Florida USA.
Another quality experiment! Love the crazy ideas!
hats off to all of you for attempting to do this! what about electromagnets instead of magnets on the car frame? would probably draw a lot of currents through the coils but might be able to produce more repulsion? who knows? batteries would be heavy and need to be recharged etc. lots of challenges here too
Mister, you know magnets lose their magnetism when heated up or taking blunt hits right? You kinda did both in this video. You literally welded it.
Awesome video. The idea is fantastic, but you would probably benefit from using an electromagnetic setup, reversing polarity. Have them wired up to the car battery or a separate power source within the car.
This channel is great im glad I found it! It's like mythbusters for crazy car stuff love it!
As you said these are supposed to have 600kg of pulling force each, but a much weaker repulsive force, then it makes more sense to use their much stronger pulling force instead. Try using two of them mounted on the fixed top beam pulling against the steel of the moving bottom beam and two mounted on the moving bottom beam pulling against the fixed steel of the top beam...Then you have a perfectly balanced pulling force in both directions which will keep the magnets apart and it will be far more powerful than the repulsive force between 8 opposed magnets. It is basically the same principle used for spokes on bicycle wheels, which pull the rim towards the hub and simultaneously pull the hub towards the rim...making a far stronger and lighter wheel.
The translator "narration" is so appreciated.
FYI Heat destroys magnets, I know because I sometimes weld magnetic steel.
I learned that in 10th grade yet those mechanics don't know 😐
Magnets destroy welds, unless you know what you're doing lol
Dustin Sanders a lot of heat does.
Welding produces a shit ton of heat and you can weld magnetized steel but you have to heat it up to u do the magnetism. Or else you can even get an arch going
@@dustinontaiyabbi5608 thermal conductivity/conductance. Heat transfers very efficiently.
I saw the video this is quite good,
I have an idea for the same
When install it keep the magnet level a few CM away from each other.
Mean touch point need to gaping
If the car moving it will work but the magnet will not touch each other for life time.
And for sides from where you maintain the gaping hard rubber which is more time good for heavy load if touch the sides it will not sound and will use properly.
Even here in Brazil, is awsome to watch your videos!
Combined with right type of shock absorber, this will be wonderful.
Cheers from Indonesia
magnificent idea! perfect it and make a stronger magnetic suspension with rubber bushes between them so they do not clash
use the magnets to make a pogo stick lol, great video thank you
You should try another one using magnets in a copper pipe. Eddy currents actually behave similarly to a damper in that they slow movement. The problems with magnetic springs is that lose magnetic force exponentially as distance between them grows.
Didn't Bose make a prototype electro magnet suspension?
Yes but it never made it to production because the weight. New GM cars have magnetic suspension though.
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What da hell?!
Do you have a link for that?
@@flyingschoolbus9557 Not magnetic suspension, magnetorheological dampers (yes did have to google that word lol).
These guys are using magnets for springs, completely different effect. If it wasn't for the weight and cost of the magnets, this isn't a terrible idea. You get progressive spring rate with a virtually maintenance free design.
@@SoldererOfFortune , wow fid. What did you put together ?
Was it not in the old Lexus Ls400 they tested it in?
Magnets for suspension
What a brilliant idea!
Well done
Love this Chanels Crazy Ideas So Much, Just an idea, but maybe you could post two versions of every video, one voiced, and one of original footage
Very interesting. The positioning of the magnets closer to centreline of the vehicle, diminishes their load bearing.
those magnets barely had any strength after welding!
Thought the same thing, they cant handle the heat from a weld
Same here
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I kinda like this idea. Seems to be with the right and solid configuration this could work really well.
I've seen some really crazy stuff in Russia. They make tanks out of old Ladas, snow riders out of anything or anfibious machines out of Ladas too. Nothing stops them. Kudos to the Russian folk inventions.
Great experiment!
My hat for your efforts!
Scotty kilmner should see this.
Scotty is likely already making another "5 Things (Scotty says) you should never do to your car". Then at the end he'll imply that everything other than Toyota or Honda is dogshit.
Scotty would disapprove unless it's on a '94 Celica.
Ol Scotty would make a whole hour video just to trash this car telling you not to do it😂😂
the force of the field decreases quadratically, so 1mm to 5mm distance mean 1/25 of the first amount of force
600 kg by 1mm gap mean 24kg by 5mm
Jürgen Hermsen thank you smart person
yes this is the reason why there wasn't too much space not cuz it got welded. Maybe but they welded the iron part anyway
@@austintillman8297 thx man, here in germany this is seventh grade ;)
Good idea!
Needs more magnets & shock absorbers!
I think it would be cool to try this but to put all the magnets in a tube with a guide pin the the center and it would hopefully fit where your original shock absorbers were located. I would use a threaded center pin so you can compress all the mangets together for installation and it would be somewhat adjustable afterward. Great video with a good proof of concept.
Applying heat to magnets is never a good idea. They will loose their magnetism and then revert back to being useless lumps of metal.
Which is probably why this didn't work out as well as it could've.
Correct, it would have been more effective to weld the rims of the magnets onto the beam first and then place in the magnets inside their rims.
@Swampy You clearly never welded anything ever
@Swampy Ahh, so that explains it
these vids are so a magnetizing you just have to watch them great vid guys love this channel .
I would like to see this idea with maximum effort put into assembly 👍👍
1:35 holy heck! I'm glad buddy didn't lose a hand!
I think more magnets = more travel. Try it!
Also, I don't have any blueprints for you, but I'm sure you guys could come up with an electromagnetic suspension.