Well tbh either Hall or Eberle had to go. they couldn't afford them hall with Lucic and others on the books and Draisaitl, and Mcdavid needing contracts
@@pwnedeful If the leafs can afford Tavares, Matthews, Marner, and Nylander at 11,11,10.5, and 7 the Oilers could have easily afforded McDavid, Draisaitl, Holl and Eberle at 12.5, 8.5,6, and 6...
@@gobitzgames3704 yeah but you wont win a cup with having that much of your cap containing 6 players. Who does toronto have on defence other than rielly? Muzzin and brodie are entering their decline and bogosian is just for some toughness. Edmonton is still up against the cap and they still have trouble with depth scoring
@@pwnedeful Dude my entire point is they could have ran with those guys for significantly less than what the leafs are doing. Saying they couldnt afford them all so it was inevitable they had to go is BS they absolutely could have ran with those guys and had a chance at a cup.
@betterdays then why click on the video, why comment, why get upset about a stranger on the internet? Why waste your life on things you don't care about?
What sucks most about Strome being dealt away from Edmonton was the fact that it was the first in 3 “I have to save my job” trades be Chiarelli. The other two? Caggiula for BRANDON MANNING and acquiring Petrovic. Strome really never got a fair shake in Edmonton, and the fans are to blame as much as management is. Many of them were calling for Eberle to be traded after the playoffs and they continue to do it. As well, I gotta really feel for Athanasiou. He may not have gotten a point vs Chicago, but he was one of 3-4 guys who actually bothered to show up and compete. He just couldn’t bury one.
I think perhaps the worst part is that Strome has done significantly better the last 2 seasons than Eberle has. If the Oilers held onto Strome and let him play top 6 minutes with mcdavid or draisaitl they very well could have come out of this trade as winners.
As a wings fan i think that if oilers re-sign Athanasiou they could be better because he was good in red wings and if they will re-sign him he will be even better with oilers
Do the Hall & Reinhart trade trees. They're very confusing but my best estimates would be: Taylor Hall > *Adam Larsson* Matt Barzal > *Griffin Reinhart*
I caught the sign language thank you at the end.i remember teaching my kids simple sings in the early years! These years are the very best. Keep up the good work!
The eberle trade hurt a lot... he was the 2nd line forward the oilers so desperate need. He was really bad in the play offs but it was tough to see him go for nothing :/
Till the day I die I'll remember that World Jr. Eberle goal -- but not just cause of him. Ryan Ellis made an absolutely bonkers play at the blueline seconds before that to keep the puck in and keep that play alive. I always felt he never got the credit enough for saving the day for the guy who saved the day
Do you ever try to make the same trades that were actually made in the real world in NHL video games to see if they would be approved? I haven't played the game in awhile and it was so hard to make trades unless you threw in draft picks.
You should do GM trees. Like the ripple effects that result from decisions that GMs made long after they're fired. It's kind of similar to trade trees but opens it up to include questionable draft picks or free agent signings.
You should do one on the Ron Francis trade to Pittsburgh in 1991. But just a heads-up, it may need to be a two-part episode. The tree is ENORMOUS, mainly the John Cullen and Ulf Samuelsson branches.
Thanks for making my heart hurt again Steve... Broke my heart watching another favourite player get traded from Edmonton to New York... Now I'm sad thinking about not only Ebs getting traded but prime Smytty getting traded 😑😑😑
Man I cried for Smytty, Ebs and Hallsy :( been thinking about them lots. I named my kitty Stanley when i got him before game 7 2006 😭pronger..pisani..ahhh❤ go Oilers GO!!!
T.J. Oshie trade tree (it's a fun one, with a prospect and pick being traded back, a conditional pick with "if"s from heck that never came to be, and a great job of the Blues to build their roster over a number of trades)
He had some good trades with the Bruins, especially in his early days (aquiring Rask for Raycroft for example). he basically built the team that won the Cup in 2011. I guess the only good trades he made for the Oilers were aquiring Zack Kassian and Cam Talbot at a relatively low cost
Could you imagine if the Sabres get Jordan Eberle in a trade this season or Patrick Kane to see what with Jack eichel & Taylor Hall that would be awesome great you do great Steve again
Response: Phil Kessel trade. Just reviewing it too: the trade of both Lucic and Hamilton almost simultaneous at junior draft for: C Miller, M Jones, 13th overall, 15th overall and 2 second rounders. it wasn't the trade of Hamilton, its what GM got for the 15th by the way Barzal played in the WHL and Calgary's pick was 15th. It could have been so much better. Eberle trade was bad, but it was a 6 mil line: Lucic, Nugent Hopkins, Eberle. Wasn't that right before McDavid's and Draisaitl's payraise? if i'm way off base don't hesitate.
All i remember about Eberle in Edmonton was him being rubbed off the puck by everybody, Yamamoto is like a far better version of a similar build player, was so sick of Edmonton drafting small forwards.
Dangle, I think a good trade tree is the Blues trading Oshie to Washington. In a way, it helped both teams win the Cup. Especially once all the branches are revealed.
While that trade did get the Blues ROR, I think a just as important one. Is the trade way back when the blues traded Shanahan to the Whalers for Pronger. Yeah. That long ago. But THAT trade got the Blues the pick that gave them Jordan BINNINGTON. Just as important. Also got the Canes their cup down the line. Also helped the Red wings to a cup or two I think...
@@matthewwinthrop3278 I've done a fair amount of it myself but I wanna see steve do it. I'll have to redraw it and post it cause it's done on an sticky note lol lemme see if I still have my prezi account
Look at the Whalers/Hurricanes side of the Chris Pronger-Brendan Shanahan trade. Got them the guy who just so happens to be their head coach right now in that tree plus about five other guys who were moderately important.
It's such a great tree. Following Brassard alone takes him from CBJ, to NYR, to OTT, to PIT, to FLA, to COL. and even beside Gaborik there are so many pieces that pinged around the league
Steve, there’s an amazing tree you have to do. With Jacob Markstrom’s Calgary signing ending his Vancouver tenure, the trade tree officially came to a close for................... wait for it....................... Trevor Linden! That thing has been going for ages.
Jordan Eberly was traded because oilers wanted to sign Lucic to a 6 million dollar deal so if we never signed lucic we would still be able to have eberly and we wouldn’t have Neal
Lucic was signed as a Free Agent on July 1st 2016. Eberle was traded in 2017. Lucic was signed before Eberle was traded. The trade was, supposedly, to make room for Connor and Leon’s extensions.
No Eberle was traded because Chiarelli was trash and wanted to sign Kris Russell to an overpriced extension with a no move clause. Worst GM of all time.
If you really want to do the Eberle trade tree it is actually the Messier trade tree. Not sure if you're wanting to do a 1 hour trade tree video though as it is the NHL's longest active trade tree. Almost dead with the Gagne trade going to Detroit now...
So let me get this straight they traded Ebbs for Strome then traded Strome for Spooner then traded Spooner for Ganger then traded Ganger and picks for AA to not resign AA. So they traded Ebbs for nothing lovely
This trade was addition by subtraction. His defence is non existent and he quit driving the net after signing the 6x6. The spotlight was on him the moment he didn’t light it up on Connors wing, the lack of anything in the playoffs sealed his fate. I’m honestly more disappointed in Strome being traded than Eberle.
The Oilers: Man if only we had wingers to play with McDavid
Also the Oilers: Traded Taylor Hall and Jordan Eberle
SMH
Yeah because fans got pissed at them when they weren't the problem. Then management listened to those fans and created one hole to fill another.
Well tbh either Hall or Eberle had to go. they couldn't afford them hall with Lucic and others on the books and Draisaitl, and Mcdavid needing contracts
@@pwnedeful If the leafs can afford Tavares, Matthews, Marner, and Nylander at 11,11,10.5, and 7 the Oilers could have easily afforded McDavid, Draisaitl, Holl and Eberle at 12.5, 8.5,6, and 6...
@@gobitzgames3704 yeah but you wont win a cup with having that much of your cap containing 6 players. Who does toronto have on defence other than rielly? Muzzin and brodie are entering their decline and bogosian is just for some toughness. Edmonton is still up against the cap and they still have trouble with depth scoring
@@pwnedeful Dude my entire point is they could have ran with those guys for significantly less than what the leafs are doing. Saying they couldnt afford them all so it was inevitable they had to go is BS they absolutely could have ran with those guys and had a chance at a cup.
Who remembers the TSN skit about the Oilers being mad about Eberle's first goal?
link?
th-cam.com/video/bIRV0ATzW8Q/w-d-xo.html
Pepperidge Farm remembers
Vandermeer: That was probably my best pass all season.
The only notable moment in Shawn Horcoffs career
The only part of this trade tree that the Oilers won was a Keith Gretzky move right after they fired Chiarelli.
Okay @NHLbyMatty
I need the coffee brand you're drinking you have a lot of energy
Timothy's actually did sponsor him before (not sure if they still do)
@betterdays All right, enjoy your day
@betterdays then why click on the video, why comment, why get upset about a stranger on the internet? Why waste your life on things you don't care about?
@betterdays this is why therapy should be covered by OHIP
@betterdays Sounds like you’ve seen some... better days
I love this trade tree. Edmonton constantly traded down before basically trading laterally.
What sucks most about Strome being dealt away from Edmonton was the fact that it was the first in 3 “I have to save my job” trades be Chiarelli. The other two? Caggiula for BRANDON MANNING and acquiring Petrovic. Strome really never got a fair shake in Edmonton, and the fans are to blame as much as management is. Many of them were calling for Eberle to be traded after the playoffs and they continue to do it. As well, I gotta really feel for Athanasiou. He may not have gotten a point vs Chicago, but he was one of 3-4 guys who actually bothered to show up and compete. He just couldn’t bury one.
@@Jo__Ko Smith didn't get a raise.
Edmontons fans are pretty braindead lol
Edmonton fans are the worst.
(Note, my team is the AHL affiliate of the Oilers.)
@@AJEDDY97 Edmonton fans arent as bad as Vancouver and Toronto fans but they’re pretty dumb
I think perhaps the worst part is that Strome has done significantly better the last 2 seasons than Eberle has. If the Oilers held onto Strome and let him play top 6 minutes with mcdavid or draisaitl they very well could have come out of this trade as winners.
As an oiler fan this trade always breaks my heart
As a wings fan i think that if oilers re-sign Athanasiou they could be better because he was good in red wings and if they will re-sign him he will be even better with oilers
As a eberle die hard n oilers die hard makes me cry
Hats off to the video editor! Well done!
I'm happy Steve gets to do these, I think he's shocked other people like them lol
Do the Hall & Reinhart trade trees. They're very confusing but my best estimates would be:
Taylor Hall > *Adam Larsson*
Matt Barzal > *Griffin Reinhart*
Reinhart > Bumzel
I caught the sign language thank you at the end.i remember teaching my kids simple sings in the early years! These years are the very best. Keep up the good work!
The eberle trade hurt a lot... he was the 2nd line forward the oilers so desperate need. He was really bad in the play offs but it was tough to see him go for nothing :/
Eberle in the 2019 playoffs was magic bro.
@@KneeJerkReactions13 Still pretty decent in the playoffs.
Management likeability: -100
Teammate likeability: -50
Primary line score: -100
So negative 100? Ok
@@Redditaurus no he is taking away 100
@@Redditaurus bruh
@@Redditaurus that’s negative 150…
Till the day I die I'll remember that World Jr. Eberle goal -- but not just cause of him. Ryan Ellis made an absolutely bonkers play at the blueline seconds before that to keep the puck in and keep that play alive. I always felt he never got the credit enough for saving the day for the guy who saved the day
Oh God. When you think about what Chiarelli did the Eberle trade tree illustrates it perfectly.
Interesting follow-up on the Pronger trade tree.
You should do the rendhart for 2 firsts trade tree if we're on the Islanders Oilers kick
Brandon Saad trade tree (from when he got sent to Columbus)
Can laugh at Chicago twice.
Fire Bowman NOW
Basically the Rick Nash trade tree
Loved it! New editing is a great addition
You should do the Trevor Linden trade with it just currently ending
I picked up NHL 21 this weekend, and decided to dig deep into the sport. These trade tree videos have helped greatly, thanks!
Do you ever try to make the same trades that were actually made in the real world in NHL video games to see if they would be approved? I haven't played the game in awhile and it was so hard to make trades unless you threw in draft picks.
@@stevencooke6451 I haven't touched any mode except Be A Pro 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️ Franchise looks fun, though
Thank you for bringing back Trade Trees. My favorite SN content (aside from game feeds).
Love the new graphics, Sportsnet!! Great job Steve. LGI!
Thanks for bringing these back! Always great content
crazy think is in this past season, eberle had a pace of 24 goals and 50 points. the man is crazy consistent
"A lesson in cap management or.patience."
Why not both?
Oilers fan there, I think when we look at all the evidence the best we can hope for is one. My team's brass isn't... we'll say the shiniest
He obviously meant and/or there
You should do GM trees. Like the ripple effects that result from decisions that GMs made long after they're fired. It's kind of similar to trade trees but opens it up to include questionable draft picks or free agent signings.
the goal call that got ruined by “i can”
3:06 That US-Canada Final is still one of the greatest games ever though...
Love these trade trees really interesting to see how teams are still paying off from specific moves or in Edmonton case a deal that never was
Someone needs to give the editor a raise!
You should do one on the Ron Francis trade to Pittsburgh in 1991. But just a heads-up, it may need to be a two-part episode. The tree is ENORMOUS, mainly the John Cullen and Ulf Samuelsson branches.
Gord: CAN YOU BELIEVE IT?! Pierre: Oh yes I can! 🤣
They actually edited out Pierre’s response in rebroadcasts of that game. God, he was terrible!
Thanks for making my heart hurt again Steve... Broke my heart watching another favourite player get traded from Edmonton to New York... Now I'm sad thinking about not only Ebs getting traded but prime Smytty getting traded 😑😑😑
Man I cried for Smytty, Ebs and Hallsy :( been thinking about them lots. I named my kitty Stanley when i got him before game 7 2006 😭pronger..pisani..ahhh❤ go Oilers GO!!!
T.J. Oshie trade tree (it's a fun one, with a prospect and pick being traded back, a conditional pick with "if"s from heck that never came to be, and a great job of the Blues to build their roster over a number of trades)
Since the trade tree recently ended, you should do one on when Trevor Linden was traded from the Canucks.
Could you do the Rick Nash trade for the Rangers and Blue Jackets? I think it's one of the most complicated (and therefore interesting).
Love the dunk on Pierre there. Happy to see these back and with some productions bumps to boot.
But Steve as Pierre insisted on reminding us twice in less than 15 seconds, that play is purely the result of John Tavares’s “magical” play
Do the Marian Gaborik trade tree
Rangers to the Blue Jackets
I was at that game in Ottawa. It was freaking electric.
Steve could you do a trade tree with Pat Lafontaine and Pierre Turgeon??? Sabres Islanders
Loved this video, just had trouble hearing what Steve was saying due to the background music :/
Really goes to show how bad at trading PC was when his best trades were Hall for Larsson and acquiring Gagner lol. Everything else 💩
He didn’t even acquire gagner, that was interim GM Keith gretzky
@@_SnipezZ_ Lol, the only win in this trade tree was made by the intern
We traded GRIFFIN REINHART for the rights to Barzal's pick lmaoo
Wasn't Wayne Gretzky traded? Did he get traded at the right time or too late?
Damn Steve, the hair is looking Italian today
Uhhh...I gotta ask before watching the video how this differs from the branch Pronger trade tree
Finally trade trees are back!
Craig Rivet trade tree!!! It involves: Pacioretty, Suzuki, DeBrincat, Tatar, Shaw, and Josh Gorges
YESSSSS It's Back. Can we get a Shattenkirk-Erik Johnson trade tree?
Please do the Cam Neely trade tree. 34 years later, it's still active.
Hopefully the Pavel Bure trade tree from Vancouver to Florida is coming soon
Did chirelli win a single trade in his career in Edmonton or Boston??
He had some good trades with the Bruins, especially in his early days (aquiring Rask for Raycroft for example). he basically built the team that won the Cup in 2011. I guess the only good trades he made for the Oilers were aquiring Zack Kassian and Cam Talbot at a relatively low cost
LETS GO, finally a video including a positive for the islanders
Hard to understand why guys who just make you better (Reimer, Eberle) are so under-appreciated by their original teams.
Could you imagine if the Sabres get Jordan Eberle in a trade this season or Patrick Kane to see what with Jack eichel & Taylor Hall that would be awesome great you do great Steve again
can you do a mike sillinger trade tree please
Yup as a Oilers fan I dont miss Peter Chariellie
You guys should do the Brent Burns Trade
Islanders fan here. I loved the Eberle trade the minute it happened. I still love it.
you don’t have to reminds me :(
welcome back the trade tree
Response: Phil Kessel trade. Just reviewing it too: the trade of both Lucic and Hamilton almost simultaneous at junior draft for: C Miller, M Jones, 13th overall, 15th overall and 2 second rounders. it wasn't the trade of Hamilton, its what GM got for the 15th by the way Barzal played in the WHL and Calgary's pick was 15th. It could have been so much better. Eberle trade was bad, but it was a 6 mil line: Lucic, Nugent Hopkins, Eberle. Wasn't that right before McDavid's and Draisaitl's payraise? if i'm way off base don't hesitate.
All i remember about Eberle in Edmonton was him being rubbed off the puck by everybody, Yamamoto is like a far better version of a similar build player, was so sick of Edmonton drafting small forwards.
I am in full agreement with you here.
Bring back the classic dang-its there are still some many good ones!
Man if the Oilers still had Eberle and Hall with McDavid, Draisitil, Nug, and Yamamoto that would be a pretty great top 6
Dangle, I think a good trade tree is the Blues trading Oshie to Washington. In a way, it helped both teams win the Cup. Especially once all the branches are revealed.
While that trade did get the Blues ROR, I think a just as important one. Is the trade way back when the blues traded Shanahan to the Whalers for Pronger. Yeah. That long ago. But THAT trade got the Blues the pick that gave them Jordan BINNINGTON. Just as important. Also got the Canes their cup down the line. Also helped the Red wings to a cup or two I think...
@@shjoncampbell6754 Now THAT would be a pretty big tree lol.
@@matthewwinthrop3278 I've done a fair amount of it myself but I wanna see steve do it. I'll have to redraw it and post it cause it's done on an sticky note lol lemme see if I still have my prezi account
Look at the Whalers/Hurricanes side of the Chris Pronger-Brendan Shanahan trade. Got them the guy who just so happens to be their head coach right now in that tree plus about five other guys who were moderately important.
Do a Mats Sundin for Wendel Clark trade tree
This is an interesting trade tree, could you do the Marian Gaborik trade to CBJ
It's such a great tree. Following Brassard alone takes him from CBJ, to NYR, to OTT, to PIT, to FLA, to COL. and even beside Gaborik there are so many pieces that pinged around the league
@@TFthecreekboy Mika Zibanejad, Kieth Yandle, John Moore, Derek Dorsett, Anthony Duclair and Brendan Smith are in this trade tree too
@@Lukedolan33 can also draw a connection from that trade to the Sens trading for, AND trading away Dion Phaneuf.
What I just heard is that a bunch of players don't tend to play well in Edmonton, unless their names are Draisdal or McDavid.
the crowd loved tavares's magical play
I always hated when he said that
The oilers are my team in the pacific. I’m starting to think jumping to the Kraken might be a smart move.
Eberly also ended up in Seattle
Loving the new graphics, great job!
Thanks for making me laugh Steve great video as always
Wait was this filmed at 4am?
Steve, there’s an amazing tree you have to do. With Jacob Markstrom’s Calgary signing ending his Vancouver tenure, the trade tree officially came to a close for................... wait for it....................... Trevor Linden! That thing has been going for ages.
Jordan Eberly was traded because oilers wanted to sign Lucic to a 6 million dollar deal so if we never signed lucic we would still be able to have eberly and we wouldn’t have Neal
Lucic was signed as a Free Agent on July 1st 2016. Eberle was traded in 2017. Lucic was signed before Eberle was traded. The trade was, supposedly, to make room for Connor and Leon’s extensions.
They moved Hall the year before to sign looch
@@paulramone284 they did. I forgot that part lol
No Eberle was traded because Chiarelli was trash and wanted to sign Kris Russell to an overpriced extension with a no move clause.
Worst GM of all time.
@@AdventuresWithWalker that too lol
So, in total, the Oilers traded Jordan Eberle, Ryan Strome, Ryan Spooner, Sam Gagner and two second round picks for 2 points. Noice
Its so nice as an islanders fan to see a trade tree that the islanders actually won
That John Carlson moment was one of my favorite moments as a hockey fan Steve! USA 🇺🇸!
Yes, more of this please. I love trade trees
I believe it was the mighty ducks still at the time, the good ol’ days
TRADE TREES ARE BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You Should do the alex galchenuck trade trees
The reason for this is bc his first name starts with Peter
Steve: I don't want to blame Ken Holland for this . . . .
Me, a Red Wings fan: No no. Go ahead and blame Ken Holland all you want.
You forgot about Mike Green in the Detroit trade
Like it, how about the most famous trade in hockey history. The Wayne Gretzky trade tree.
2 2nds....for happytoseeyou? why?
Greatest first goal I may see in my life
How about an Alex Galchenyuk trade tree?
If you really want to do the Eberle trade tree it is actually the Messier trade tree. Not sure if you're wanting to do a 1 hour trade tree video though as it is the NHL's longest active trade tree. Almost dead with the Gagne trade going to Detroit now...
How the Linden trade helped build the core of the 2011 Canucks
Didn't Eberle score the game-winning goal in the shootout too, vs. the Russians in the 2009 WJC? My memory might be deceiving me, but I think he did.
So let me get this straight they traded Ebbs for Strome then traded Strome for Spooner then traded Spooner for Ganger then traded Ganger and picks for AA to not resign AA. So they traded Ebbs for nothing lovely
Oilers: We lack stable two-way forwards!
Me, looking at this trade tree: Well, you done mess up, son.
This trade was addition by subtraction. His defence is non existent and he quit driving the net after signing the 6x6. The spotlight was on him the moment he didn’t light it up on Connors wing, the lack of anything in the playoffs sealed his fate. I’m honestly more disappointed in Strome being traded than Eberle.
Strome achieving career highs with panarin on his line... YEET