@@parsamohammadi1488 there is. in fact, the reverse of what the person you’re responding to can actually be quite true. victims of war, of car accidents, etc are killed without being “murdered”
The popular liberal theory is that because of “power and oppression” minorities can’t be racist, the word we should be using is prejudice… an asshole is still an asshole no matter what you call it
"If somebody hates you because of your skin color or ethnicity, is it racist?" "Yes." "If you hate somebody because of their skin color or ethnicity, is it racist?" "No, because see it's different."
any form of decision or action based on race is racism. not just hate or preference, not just how you personally treat people, but if race has IN ANY WAY BUT THE MOST CLINICAL, OBJECTIVE FASHION affected your decision, the decision was affected by racism. Growing up i was instilled with the belief that everyone should be treated equally and the people most staunchly against that in my adulthood have been self-proclaimed "anti racists" or some similar label
@@theblode1337 *That's incorrect.* Racism isn't about _any_ decision, it's about focusing on detrimental traits or about oppressing a group for the advantage of another. What you _might_ be thinking of is discrimination, but discrimination isn't necessarily a negative connotation. "We have discriminating tastes" refers to people having "higher standards." So if someone says, "ethnic group B is lazy, but ethnic group A is hard working and well educated" and that person doesn't belong to group A, it isn't racism. Even saying "group B is lazy" doesn't refer to racism if you're using facts and/or statistics to support your position. Pointing out that Germans have always made great beers and pianos regardless of what country they've moved to isn't racism; it's just a fact that history shows.
By your own admission, there is a difference. You have written that racism is 'about focusing on detrimental traits or about oppressing a group for the advantage of another', and that's two different criteria, two completely different definitions. In one specific context one requirement may be met, and in another context the other requirement may be met. The point being that there are different ways to understand the concept, and silly debates such as this one rely precisely on conflating different ideas for the purpose of equivocation. It's not very different from when you hear people say 'well but evolution is just a theory'. More specifically, if racism consists of having a negative feeling or unfair prejudice that relies excessively on ethnicity, then of course a black person who doesn't like Asians is being racist. The girl could have said that. But if there is no oppression, no discrimination, the person doesn't hold any power over those people, and therefore those other people can barely experience any negative consequences as a result, then it is hardly what we call racism when they think of centuries of enslaving and discriminating a group of people for profit. And the girl could have also said that. I mean, I don't know about you, but I've seen black people joke derisively at how white people talk or walk, and if I have to use the same word for that than what I use to refer to early Australian settlers having aboriginals on leashes, then there is definitely a problem with the language.
Saying a person can’t be racist to an Asian isn’t racist lol, no one should be racist to Asian people, they’re just using an example to show the other person’s hypocrisy. Racism is racism.
I mean, in a way it is. Because racism is thinking another race is beneath you. So saying "Hispanic people can't be racist" or "black people can't be racist" is saying you are above racism and the "other races" that are racist
Racism is about races (skin colour) can be sorted in a form hierarchy. But since we humans all (no matter skin colour) still one specie the "race theory" is wrong. But people who beleive it and beleive in racial biology are "racists". However having prejudices against people cause of their skin colour is not the same as being racist. But beleiving that there is different human species and some rank above other (based on skin colour) is racist. I guess? Racist is an overused word and has lost its meaning...
People can even be racist to their own race. I used to know a guy who hated his whole family other than his current guardian (his white stepmom) and hated the rest of his family for being black, despite being black himself. It was weird. I dont even know why the dude only lived with his stepmom.
@@eclipsesable7276 A few years ago I watched a documentary called Dark Girls that was about these black women who experienced racism from within their own black communities. Was really shocking and sad to hear
@@eclipsesable7276 hating his old family isn't racist, tho. He might hate his family, and then the flame spread into black people in general. It's like people who hates CCP and eventually hate the mainlander.
From a black person; I am sorry, to all the cultures and ethnicities of the world that some people think that by being black you cannot be racist. Racial prejudice is not dependant on the colour of your skin. It is not confined to a group of people and excluding of another. It is absolutely absurd that people think this. They are the ones who need the anti-racist training. For goodness sake.
Sometimes I feel like racism isn’t always the right way to teach start teaching people about racism. it need to be more of a blanket statement like prejudice. slow people will get confused and attached to the race part of it. A Prejudice is when one assumes something or believes a fact applies to everyone or everything within a group. Everyone is prejudicious agents something or another and sometimes the that thing is the specific colour which is what racism is.
You shouldn't love that reaction though. That "patience" is actually tolerance taken to the extreme. He's being a weak human. All this woke crap started off as "funny" now look at the situation. Western cultures finally are starting to say no. But it's an issue still.
@@JoNNyCLOUD171 If you had watched the original with context you wouldn't have said that. She didn't phrase her response well, but she ended up saying that it would be discrimination but not racism, because she believes racism can only occur from a "powerful" racial group towards a less "powerful" one. Certainly debatable but it's not like she's saying that it would be ok for hispanics to have racial prejudice against asians.
@@jojodroid31 well now black people are the most powerful race group in america due to the better treatment throuh "positive discrimination" which i think is bs and is just another word for "we r racist but we gave it a funny name"
@@JoNNyCLOUD171 the "patience" is required to talk to people like that. if you take the combative approach they shut down and will not talk to you. A lot of people like that cannot handle being directly disagreed with. calling him a weak human is insane btw
Nah man she knows the definition of racism. It's just an alternative definition. WAIT WAIT WAIT ITS NOT ALTERNATIVE FACTS, COMPLETELY DIFFERENT WAIT NO FOR REAL. NOT THE SAME
That's what soft language does to people. So many idiots would replace words with another while still keeping the same meaning but in a way that would least offend them. Like how they call fat people "plus-sized" or "curvy". The problem with this is that this is just like spraying a powerful perfume on a turd. It may smell like a rose, but underneath it's still a piece of sh1t.
I really hate this re-definition of the word "racist". A "Racist" is someone who believes that there is a measurable difference between the different ethnicities; that there are literally separate races of humans. For example, they'd believe African-descendant people to be more predisposed towards violence or that Asian-descendant people would be harder workers and so on. If you are not a racist, then you believe that we are all ultimately the same as humans and our differences are either superficial or cultural. Power dynamics have nothing to do with it. It is about a person's world view.
She didn't phrase her response well, but she ended up saying that it would be discrimination but not racism, because she believes racism can only occur from a "powerful" racial group towards a less "powerful" one. Certainly debatable but it's not like she's saying that it would be ok for hispanics to have racial prejudice against asians.
@@jojodroid31 Racism is racism, no matter which race is guilty of it. This endless bending of the definition to benefit a particular group is what needs to be curbed. It's like people - and in some cases even online dictionaries - are determined to drag the word into a new area where it can only mean a powerful group judging a less powerful group. The word is self-explanatory.
@@upturnedblousecollar5811 I agree with you, just adding context to what she said. At some point in the vid he said "slavery has existed for thousands of years", she interrupts him and says "centuries, even!". She's not the brightest.
She knows she's wrong. She's just too prideful to admit it. You can tell because instead of saying "no", she immediately tries to justify herself before she even gives the answer.
I want to say that, as a person living in NY, racism is VERY normalized. Especially towards Asians. So the fact that she thinks that, isn’t surprising, but it’s still disgusting.
@@ebola1232 Two extremes in one place - that's kinda diverse - but I feel that would create a literal melting pot - i.e. destroying each other instead of living harmoniously.
I was like, she was not done talking, let's watch the rest of video. Holy shit , she did not redeem herself. She dug herself a even bigger hole to climb out of.
The fact this is a debate is disgusting. Edit: HOLY crap why did this of all comments get replies? I'll add to it to make it more intelligent and less generic (I guess people love generic stuff or this was one thing we could finally agree on): everything is a debate these days and that is scary. Everything has two sides and we cannot agree on one thing. Of course the media often takes one side but that side depends on where you live. The fact we cannot agree on this shows how divided our country has become. Or maybe it always was. I don't think so but I am young so can't say for sure. @Some dude on Twitter stalked me here Tell me your definition of racism and where you got it from. Because on google it equates it to prejudice. There is no difference. You're right about the powers of systemic rac*sm and listed each privilege eloquently and succinctly but that isn't the definition of rac*sm it's the definition of systemic rac*sm
Her belief system is rooted in critical race theory. It's really messed up. Basically if you're in a minority group you cannot be racist because you lack 'the power' to be racist. Ludicrous.
@@threegenders201 Black people can't be systemically racist since there's no legal or judicial system that black people have great sway over. However, they can definitely be racist towards individuals. A black dude can beat an Asian dude and that would be racist, but that black dude probably would still feel the full wrath of the judicial system if they are caught.
@@sylvestergharold7265 Oh like OJ? Do the threats of destroying a city if he wasn't found innocent count as 'sway'? I swear this word 'systemic' needs to get thrown in the trash. At what point do a certain number of people with a certain skin color have to 'hold sway' before the system is no longer 'systemically racist'? And isn't that a system BY DEFINITION racist because you're just deciding who is racist based on the skin color of the majority, regardless of the character of those people? If there was a black judge who hated black people, giving them harsh sentences non stop and a more lenient white judge, then by your own messed up beliefs you could clone the black judge a million times and solve the systemic racism.
A lot of the most racially prejudiced things I have heard have been uttered by a member of an ethnic minority. I had a friend who was told by his gf's parents that he was great but he was too white.
I was thinking "hmm he sounds like a rational minded individual and is making reasonable points how did he f*ck up bad enough to end up in a video like this" and then it changed to her and everything cleared up lol
@@acdesegurgels8663 you see, the OP being a weeb brained is irrelevant. but adding to your statement, it's so rare to see a person with a rational minded people on the internet
Bois it seems to be just a troll his account is 3 weeks old he probably just had a bad day and wanted to argue with people online and made a new account just ignore him lmao
@@mohit5709 Clearly not. The whole argument is about semantics and word use, the two people probably don't have a different understanding of how immoral each situation is, just a different perception of what racism means. It's just being used here as some kind of anti-woke 'gotcha'
@@basilbrush9075 i mean if ur gulity u feel they r trynna embarrass u with "gotcha"....but if ur genuine u feel this is an healthy convo.....and based on ur mindset u belong the former category i guess
@@trippie_fabio3181 If you had actual free universities where the state could manage that the courses are actually laic and secular, that wouldn't happen.
I agree with you. This is common knowledge. I guess the idiots are quick to forget the most memorable rule in the world. If any idiots are reading this, do all of us a favor and do NOT breed.
I’m Hispanic I am not afraid to say my family is racist to Asian people. It’s that simple. To clarify I’m not racist to anyone, that’s why I said my family and not me and my family. Also my family doesn’t hate Asian people, they just see Asian people as easy to make fun of, so they do that a lot
@@joshhponce6768 I think it’s really only racism if it comes from a place of hate, if it’s just believing stereotypes it’s probably more just ignorance
This is critical race theory. Which is based on the idea that white people are specifically evil, and this is due to them being what are considered the spiritual ancestors of Esau.
“Can’t be racist, only prejudice”... 🤔... prejudice.... on the subject of race. It’s called racism. And prejudice on the subject of sex is called sexism. Does this clear up anything for her? Racism is prejudice regarding race. So they are racist
And thats where you made a mistake. Her definition of racism is totaly different, than the classical one. And thats why its so stupid, you have a word with a meaning, now you change the meaning and expect everyone else to follow. That her definition of racism is racist in itself makes it only funnier.
@@niranekomata3383 What kind of crappy dictionary contains that definition? Please tell me so that I may avoid like the plague and never use it again 🤣
The amount of micro-agressions and racism I see my black brothers display towards Asians (especially Chinese) is ridiculous. If you want to be treated as human, treat people as humans too.
As a Hispanic myself……. Yes it is most definitely racism 😂everyone has the potential to be racist and the fact that people don’t think that is mind boggling 😂🤦🏾♂️
i think theyre just trying to excuse their racism, but after all, discrimination makes racism bad, so any form of discrimination is bad not just racism, just because you're not racist doesnt mesn you're a good person is my point
As an asian person its mind boggling that some minorities hold the belief that if you are from a minority race, it means you cannot be racist. My parents are really racist towards indian ppl for example. Even within the asian subgroup there is racism. Its really sad honestly.
That argument comes up because in certain fields of sociology, racism is dependent upon the dominant group in a society, where the term racism refers strictly to a certain race that is in power, being prejudiced to a race with less power. This definition someone's makes sense in sociology, as it's the study of society and groups of people interacting, so defining it based on the group in power makes sense. This definition however of course does not make sense in common use, or to describe any individuals actions.
@@zetahurley294 wouldn’t the perpetuation of current Systemic racial inequalities be better be described as ethno-nationalism? so guilty individuals would be better described as ethnic-nationalists?
@@carlsmith4568 The fuck does that have to do with "sEmAnTiCs", she explained where the definition comes from and why it's not appropriate in this context.
As a racist I can say F1 is better when mercades aren't winning all the time. But then again if i mention a specific 7 time world champion, i would be racist.
Even though black people are the most vulnerable to racism, especially very dark black people, that doesn't justify him doing the same to other people who also suffer some kind of prejudice. It's not about liking, it's about respecting.
wBlueprint is one of those people. Despite being married to a white girl, he claimed that she still hasn't earned a "black card", as if that merits exclusive respect over any other living person. Imagine your husband telling you he does't trust or respect you as much as some random black people he's never even met.
"Is racism racist?" "It depends on who is being racist" "Racism isn't racist when black ppl r racist. But racism is actually racism when white ppl are racist"
@@genericwhitemale1114 yeah you can always find groups of like minded individuals for any topic under the sun. Doesn’t change the fact their dumb. I’m glad you’re able to apply common sense
Thats what Im saying!!! The very first time I was exposed to that term, I was confused! What the hell is the difference? Being racist is basically being prejudiced towards a certain race. Like ?????
@@thiccarmybomb2395 It's a tenuous difference. Think of it as systemic racism vs regular racism. An individual can be racist towards another person, but that individual may not be part of a group that controls the judicial or legal systems. South African Apartheid is a good example of this: even if a white person was treated badly by black people there, the white people still held all the legislative and judicial power and so we're systemically racist against black people. The black people could still be racist but they still would have felt a judge's full wrath. This is contrasted to how white judges oftentimes don't charge white offenders because they are "hardworking men at heart" or some similar excuse.
@@sylvestergharold7265 bro spewing alot of BS here. When u have black officials is the government still "systematic racist"? Stop please. You dont understand racism and how it works. You were not a slave in 1795. You are here now. There are PLENTY of black officials in America that dont give a fuck what happens to people. Its not systematically racist of them to support loaded prisons. Ok? Ok.
@@tommysuhlami6241 13th amendment, Section 1: "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction." Slavery is still legal in the prison system. It's no wonder that so many politicians want loaded prisons. Seeing as black people also receive longer sentences compared to white people for the same crimes, I can't imagine how you can say racism isn't still pervasive in the prison system.
As an Asian, this argument makes me fucking miserable. My family members can literally be killed in the streets and I’d have to grieve them knowing that there’s going to be a debate about it rather than just acknowledging it for what it was: Asian hate, and racism. Racism is literally just treating or thinking lesser of somebody because of their race. Prejudice can be racism, but it can also just be 200 other things. Using prejudice in terms of racial crimes just sounds like racism to me. Anyone who’s been robbed of something or insulted just because of their race has experienced racism, even if they’re in the majority.
It's a terrible thought. I hope that nothing like that happens in your community, especially over all these things that you could have no influence on. Best of luck out there and I hope you're all safe.
@@Cheddar_Wizard As an AA myself, it’s honestly weird. You can tell a lot of us have internalized racism. EDIT: Lemme clarify myself since apparently I have to. I meant internalized racism from slavery. That is why I said “AA”(African AMERICAN). A lot of us are even racist towards each other. NOT ALL black people, Jesus Christ.
As an Asian American who has gone through the public school system (specifically one still suffering from negative effects of integration like inter-minority racism), all of the racist acts that I’ve experienced mostly came from my fellow Hispanic and Black peers. It hurts to say this because there has never been justice for Asians. Worst memory was when a Black male student walked up to me and called me a Chinese b***h (I’m not Chinese).
Fellow Asian American here. I’m sorry you had experienced that. I was born as a Chinese/Cantonese person in the USA. I live in a diverse town of so many different backgrounds, but even then I never felt like I fit in. I have never been received racist comments, but as I grew up I noticed that I was picked on by a lot of Black and Hispanic kids. Even then most of my relatives were assaulted when they lived in NYC. And it didn’t help the fact that the public school system taught history in black and white. But we got to stick together.
I have never been in any other country but when i go to websites like omegle, especially when the covid started some people will say something about me being asian like blah blah blah covid and most of them are black lol
Sounds rough. I hope things are better for you now. Seeing all the horrible things people are doing to the Asian community sucks. There isn't a thing in this world that justifies treating your fellow person like that.
That's horrible im sorry you had to go through something like that. We had 2 transfer students in our high school before full Chinese but knew some English. Wonderful people I wish i got to know them more
as a hispanic, yes that would be racist. not a single race or ethnicity can’t not be racist. every single race and ethnicity that has ever existed has had racist people and still do have racist people. racism is everywhere, not generalized to one particular race or exempt from one particular race
yeah, thats why the whole racism = prejudice+power thing always felt a bit off, even if you are a minority you can still be racist to orhers who aren't, i'm also hispanic, and if i were to hate a white guy just because they're white, believe it or not that would be racist
It's absolutely mind blowing that we have to say things like this. The simple notion of "you're racist if you're racist" seems to be controversial to a worrisome amount of people. It's... concerning, to say the least.
@@Abrahamwaffle Yeah this is why these discussions aren't very interesting to me. It's basically just semantics Like you said there are some who believe that racism = prejudice + power. So when they say something like, "Black people can't be racist" they're saying, "Black people are the victims of systemic racist and therefore are not perpetrators of it." Other people believe that racism = hating someone because of their race. Therefore anyone can be racist. The arguments always devolves into the definition of the word "racist", but I bet most people would agree that there is systemic racism in the US, and there are people that hate others because of their race, and both things are bad.
@@Abrahamwaffle for racism to be meaningful your group needs to be dominant for eg a jew in germany during 1940s being racist against Anglo isnt the same as the opposite
She knew she was not winning, so she blocked the answer and tried defending, but by not answering you have already lost the argument and are digging yourself a deeper, dumber hole.
Philosophy student here. What many anti-racism activists are trying to do is defining racism as "discrimination of a minority ethnic group by the majority ethnic group" instead of "discrimination based on ethnicity". It's important to see that if you accept their definition, then it is in fact a valid argument for example to say that black people cannot be racist towards white people. The issue really is though that this definition of racism is at best misleading or possibly even dishonest. The important point is: Even though the argument itself is actually not fallacious... if you think about it, it becomes a very insignificant statement. To illustrate that: Suppose that we define traffic collisions as "accidents that involve two blue cars crashing into each other". In this case it would be a valid argument to say that a motorcycle crashing into another motorcycle or even a red car crashing into a blue car isn't actually a traffic collision. It will now of course be a very insignificant statement to say that 100% of all traffic collisions involve blue cars, when we have already predefined them that way. We can do the same thing with racism: Let's now for example define racism as "discrimination of black people by white Canadians aged between 7 and 17". Just like before, it would be a valid argument to say that in this case only white Canadians aged between 7 and 17 can be racist. But the thing is: Should we accept this definition? No we shouldn't, because even though it is logically valid, it's misleading, since most people simply have a different definition. So what is the actual problem? It's mere word games resulting in a misunderstanding. The one group is making a valid, but misleading (and often insignificant) argument, while the other is trying to disprove the argument, but failing at it, because they do not discuss the definitions first. I personally would either reject a definition of racism that does not include the discrimination of all ethnicities... Or if someone insist on using their definition for racism: Go with it for the sake of argument, but make it very clear to the audience, what definition for racism is used within the framework of the debate and then discuss it. Otherwise you will talk about completely different things.
if we define cheese as potato then it makes sense to say that cheese doesn't melt because it bakes, since it's a potato. yes, that is logically valid but it is also moronically stupid
Imma go ahead and redefine theft as taking other people's belongings without their consent, unless done by me. I can now take your stuff and it's not stealing. The power of logic!
@@tadeuszadach5732 yes, that's pretty much what I'm saying. But I think it's important to realize that sometimes it makes sense to use definitions that are uncommon in order to express a complex thought. You just have to be clear about what you actually want to say. I just think that some activists remain intentionally vague and don't want the definitions to be clear, so that they can hide fallacies in their arguments. For example they often tend to switch definitions in the middle of the argument depending on what they currently need (equivocation fallacy). That tactic actually requires some skill, which is why I wouldn't brush it aside as stupidity. I genuinely think they are straight up lying, because they feel they can persuade more people that way.
I thought the reason the stop Asian hate movement died was because they started noticing predominantly black people were doing it Like man, I haven't seen a stop Asian hate hashtag in like a year
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@Shadow Of Wiggin do you think it's possible that a town where the only opportunities a kid has is sports is structured well. Also there are no public schools that I know of that don't allow gender, but I understand if that is a topic you want to shelter kids from. In reality the children growing up with gender identity issues are always going to exist and making them feel invalid is un-american. Also I don't know what equity classes are, but I think you mean equality? Once again I don't see how that is a bad thing. I think children should grow up being kind and tolerant so that might stick in their adult years. So, in summary a state reallocating funds from sports programs that really don't send all that many kids to college and using that money on education isn't bad. Education is good and if more people were educated we might not fight as much.
@@jackkingsby116 The problem comes when school start teaching white kids they are bad and its their fault other races aren't doing well and they should feel bad an apologies for things that happened before they were even conceived Critical race theory is also creeping into our schools teaching kids they should judge each other based on their skin colour first
@@chemicalbrucey157 that's not what critical race theory is. Critical race theory is how past use of race has had lasting effects on the world. Which is true regardless of your beliefs on race. Also it's not about shaming white people. It is all about educating everyone on the atrocities that have been committed in the name of progress.
@@chemicalbrucey157 schools aren’t teaching that white people bad and critical race theory isn’t even part of the school curriculum. Why do people always make this false claim I don’t fucking get it. Is it because there’s one presentation being taught to teachers to not be racist? Is that it? Or teaching kids hey guys don’t be racist. Is that critical race theory to you?
It's how it is with humans. We subscribe to combination of ideologies. From childhood you get bashed into your head all sorts of beliefs. In past it was mostly religion. But now with secularism it is free market, parents can teach children whatever. It's an unfortunate effect of freedom of choice/belief.
Yeah I've had this debate of "you can't be racist against white or asian people" before and it's just incredibly frustrating. The gymnastics they go through to bend the meaning of words... there's just nothing you can say to convince them. I got one to admit that "discrimination" exists but not "racism". So strange... I don't know what words mean anymore.
For those who appeared to be confused here's an overexplanation of what ZONG is saying. ZONG is saying that since coffee has caffeine in it, it would only be logical to assume that iced coffee would also have caffeine because it's just coffee with ice. This is a comparison to her knowing that hating an asain based on race is racist but thinking that a hispanic hating an asian based on race isn't racist even though it's just racism from another race. So ZONG is saying that since this person can't understand racism is racism even if performed by a different race; she would then also not understand that iced coffee has caffeine like knowing there's caffeine in normal coffee because the only difference is ice. (If that even makes any sense to you?)
i hate people who think that "i am [race] so i can't be racist", it's a stupid argument. it literally doesn't matter what race you are, you can be racist to ANYONE, including your own i wrote this weeks ago and i didn't expect politics to be brought up but I'm not surprised either
The sociological definition of racism, like the term minority, is dependent upon power. In South Africa there are less white people than black people but black people are considered the minority because of having less power within that society; i.e. white people being able to institute an apartheid despite their smaller numbers in South Africa. Racism is racial bias enacted on minorities from the majority. Race based biases enacted on the majority from someone in a minority is prejudice. The public has warped the definition of racism similarly to what people are doing now with the word sociopath. There is no diagnosis of sociopathy and often times, but not exclusively, what people would refer to as sociopathic behavior would fall under Antisocial Personality Disorder. People who aren't knowledgeable about a field disseminating incorrect/inaccurate information is what many times makes the idea of common knowledge a misnomer.
@@ksp6091 I would disagree with you there and here's an example of why. "I am [white] in South Africa so I can't [be a minority despite by numbers there being less white than black people in the country]." I don't think that the example I gave is racist and it's truth is tied to the idea that power affects categories we can or can't be in similar to racism.
I'm Asian and I went on a date with this Black guy who grew up in France and he was badmouthing other east-asian ethnicities including my own & when I told him I was fully Malay, (one of those races he was badmouthing) he straight up responded with "Black people can't be racist" needless to say I never saw him again *but* before I did: I had to call him out for his offensive remarks especially when he CHOSE my home country for his student exchange program… 100% anybody can be a disgusting racist 🥴
Damn, that's really gross of him to say something racist, and gaslight you after basically insulting you. He still should've apologized to you even if he thinks he can't be racist cuz he's black. I'm sorry you had to experience that.
Yes I am black myself and I time and time again tell my black peers that black people can be racist and I'm sorry this happened to you. On another note you said "including my own race" but Malaysian isn't a race it's an nationality, just keep that in mind for future reference. Race, ethnicity and nationality are not any of the same thing.
Someone once told me that black people can't be racist I said to them that telling me I can't do or be something because of the color of my skin is racist in itself.
Everyone is racist. It's human instinct, that goes back to being chimpanzees. We are territorial and that includes trying to defend our tribe from other tribes. So we feel naturally hostile to other tribes.
@@acemenzel3876 I don’t think that’s entirely true, look at kids for example their basic human instinct is as basic as can be and I doubt you’ve ever seen a kid below say 4 years old that was racist.
Every human is capable of being racist. Because what is racism? Hate. Pure and simple. Everyone is capable of feeling hate. Everyone is capable of having prejudices. We are all humans, we all feel these things. I honestly don't know what's so complicated to understand.
As a intelligent human being, you should adapt the norms and value of becoming a sensible, more caring person. It’s easy to hate anyone but hard to restrain yourself from the hatred. Forgiving and loving others is like the core norms and value of all big religion.
@@Rinesmyth Thank you for the additions. The reason I put there just hate it's because I felt that that't the very basic and overall feeling, you know. But yeah, those emotions are deffinetely on the list no doubt. And every race and ethnicity is capable of feeling them.
You can still hate from other races without being racist, like, you hate them because they are an ass and he/she threats you like shit, not because they are asian or hispanic or whatever. Sometimes is not all about races.
If y’all think someone can’t be racist because they aren’t white, I’m a black person who’s experienced racism from ppl in every race, including my own mom being colorist. And also, being racist is not cool we r all humans and no one is better than anyone (unless u compare a pedophile to a doctor) but anyways, don’t be racist 😃 👍🏽
"We are all humans" argument is very flawed and wrong because you have to create exceptions for it. You are not wrong on racism, but I'm only mentioning out how that logic can be mis-leading.
@Irishdemon Many people use it whenever they get caught doing something wrong and when they say it, they expect sympathy from you. It's used by douche-Tubers alot
Yeah. I’m white and I’ve been racially discriminated against… just as probably everyone has it’s just a way of life.. we should just no be racist… completely agree
"Minorities cant be racist" (Looks at East Asian relations, Looks at South American relations, Looks at Haiti-Dominican Republic tensions, Looks at Arab-Israeli tensions, Genoc*des in Central Africa from Rwanda to Congo, Yugoslavia Electric Boogaloo) Well, they are a Minority in your country, but not theirs, American
THIS, THIS THIS THIS! And louder for those in the back! The people deciding what is and isn’t racist are the most blindly privileged people on this planet - they’re so privileged that they prescribe their own America-centric world view on others when the rest of the world is in a different situation. Minority in America ≠ Minority everywhere
@@carrma3831 I’d be lying if I said I am not prejudiced towards second generation American Latinos. It’s like a lot of them want to brandish the Latino title and play the victim when they’re born in one of the best countries in the world and have never had to go through the hellhole that is Latin America. Then again, not like it matters, as long as it keeps our culture alive
@Eat the socialist funny because American Leftist views are so similar to Conservative Confederate Views and to their Enemy "Trump": America First and we decide what is racist or not
@@arcturus4762 so much this. I have a friend in France who worked hard her entire life to get out of Colombia and pursue a scientific career And then there's… whatever Twitch tried doing during that "latino pride month" where they only celebrated american streamers with hispanic parents and added emotes that only depict Mexican stereotypes. To be clear, I have nothing against depicting Mexican people always with the colorful big hat and poncho, a big bushy mustache and some maracas-stereotypes exist because there's some truth to them after all. My issue is twitch wanting to pretend that that somehow represents the entirety of South America too
I don’t understand why some people think people of color can’t be racist. Have they heard of the Rwandan genocide? And colorism is very real throughout Asia and Africa.
First off, say black people because Asians, and Hispanics are POC. Also colorism and racism are not the same so don't those confused either, both however are social consturcts which is the only way you could compare beside the fact of the descrimination against the person the racism or colorism is being used on.
The point isn't about understanding other cultures or the reality of the non-american world. It's about proving your point. And the point is: white -> racist -> bad. Really, it's just that easy
I appreciate that this video cuts off her explanation. It really doesn't matter. It's time to stop hearing out stupid people, and disassociate them. Not my force, but kinda like how a parent ignore a kid when they're FOS.
i love how you can’t hear her over the music because there’s no need to. there’s nothing she can say to that question besides ‘yes’ that’s worth hearing lmaoo
One thing! Just one thing! Please tell IT to me: WHY tf do I have so many fans even though no TH-camr is unprettier than I am? WORLDWIDE!!!! WHY??? Tell me, dear ca
@@laika5707It all boils down to, "minorities can't be racist" which is inherently wrong. Imagine if someone said "white people cant be racist." As a white guy I STILL wouldn't give AF to hear their argument and would react exactly as this guy did.
This is going back 37 years My black friend from Ghana experienced a lot of racism when he was in New York where he was a student at that time. felt so sorry for him and apologized on behalf of all us white people. He said “don’t apologize as they were not white but African Americans”. That truly shocked me
@@DinomotoMennoviit’s baffling cause everyone acts like only white people r racist and that’s it so when u c racism from everyone else literally everywhere, it kinda makes u wonder why we only hear about it as a white issue
Yeah I'm African-American and I grew up hearing some bigoted things being said about African blacks and Caribbean blacks by other AA people. Not all AA people, but a vocal minority hold this type of prejudice and they used to call them names or just laugh at them for not being AA. Any group can have racial ignorance and prejudice is not exclusive to any one group. I have been on the receiving end of racial prejudice from people of all colors, I don't automatically expect it from any group in particular it's more about the individual and their ignorance
The sociological definition of racism, like the term minority, is dependent upon power. In South Africa there are less white people than black people but black people are considered the minority because of having less power within that society; i.e. white people being able to institute an apartheid despite their smaller numbers in South Africa. Racism is racial bias enacted on minorities from the majority. Race based biases enacted on the majority from someone in a minority is prejudice. The public has warped the term racism similarly to what people are doing now with the word sociopath. There is no diagnosis of sociopathy and often times, but not exclusively, what people would refer to as sociopathic behavior would fall under Antisocial Personality Disorder.
@@wolfgangamadeus6118 "Racism is the belief that groups of humans possess different behavioral traits corresponding to physical appearance and can be divided based on the superiority of one race over another. It may also mean prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against other people because they are of a different race or ethnicity"-wikipedia. racism isn't only from instetutions and south africa is not the only example of racism
@@therealgeneralMacArthur I should have given links to information that would further elaborate on my point; so, I'm sorry for not adding more clarity from my perspective. Here are some links that are much more informative and apt at explain how power transitions racial prejudice to racism (which is inherently tied to social implications of this bias being enacted on those with lesser amounts of power i.e. minorities.) projects.iq.harvard.edu/files/deib-explorer/files/sociology_of_racism.pdf www.yorku.ca/lfoster/2006-07/sosi4440b/lectures/Racism.html (This will open a word document) www.vanderbilt.edu/oacs/wp-content/uploads/sites/140/Understanding-Privilege-and-Oppression-Handout.doc My point on South Africa wasn't that it's the only place experiencing racism, it was that laymen's definitions of words (of which are often found on Wikipedia) are not always very accurate and often lack the nuance that the most complete definition has; e.g. many people think minority just means whichever group is smaller in number but white people in South Africa are smaller in number (but large in power which is what makes a group the majority group) than black people. Let me know if there are any more links you’d want me to send your way or if you have anything that you’d want me to see; I’m always open to something new and challenging my beliefs.
The sociological definition of racism, like the term minority, is dependent upon power. In South Africa there are less white people than black people but black people are considered the minority because of having less power within that society; i.e. white people being able to institute an apartheid despite their smaller numbers in South Africa. Racism is racial bias enacted on minorities from the majority. Race based biases enacted on the majority from someone in a minority is prejudice. The public has warped the term racism similarly to what people are doing now with the word sociopath. There is no diagnosis of sociopathy and often times, but not exclusively, what people would refer to as sociopathic behavior would fall under Antisocial Personality Disorder. People who aren't knowledgeable about a field disseminating incorrect/inaccurate information is what many times makes the idea of common knowledge a misnomer.
@@wolfgangamadeus6118 i don't know what the hell you are on about but NO races should shit on eachother just because of their race. It's racism no matter what. I hope you are just repeating this message.
@bruh bruh Yeeeeaaaah tru. A lot of politics is pretty technical and there is a lot that goes into it which is why I think 50 second videos like this about these topics are pretty reductive/misinform people.
@@wolfgangamadeus6118 Me > googles racism. Results > prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized. Key word is "typically", just because minorities are typically racialized by the majority does not mean they cannot be racist themselves. People are individuals, not just conglomerates of power, that's literally the rational the Nazis used to oppress Jewish people despite being the majority.
Spicy Asians? I wouldn’t that be south and southeast Asians? If anything, “Spicy whites” would make more sense since Latin American countries were established by people from the Iberian peninsula WHICH IS IN EUROPE.
It’s both funny and sad how the stop Asian hate movement went away so quickly as soon as people realized the group that was really committing hate crimes against them.
Minorities being racist against minorities is sadly waaaay too common... I think the reason why we as minorities tend to ignore racist minorities is because we feel like acknowledging it devalues our opinion when we speak against racist behavior... In my opinion, you should just treat every person based on their personality and actions rather than the color of their skin, just because a person is white doesn't automatically makes them racist or something...
The irony is the minority A complain about being opressed by B majority... But when there's a minority C the minority A becomes the majority and opress and try to silence the minority C It is kind of: Minority C < Minority A < Minority B The irony becomes sad haha
@@oxines6979 yeah, most people only cares about representing/defending their own group, be it race, religion or sexual orientation. That's why when there's an offense against a group to which they don't belong they tend to ignore it. I'd say that anyone has the right to do that (only care about their group) but we should all strive to really try to address any injustice against a community or group even if we aren't part of that group.
@@Someone-wr4ms indeed buddy! All my life i was taught that it's wrong to judge a person based on skin color and that skin color is nothing... All my life i believed that... It was a shock of reality when i saw that they were justifying this... It was a shock reality when i saw that happening... To be honest i never cared about skin color... Until now... I entered in the america community because i was learning english and guess what ? I am no longer seeing people with a dark skin with the same eyes as before... These things are so ignorant because their mwthods made others raciat and then complain about "racism" one example it's this: "if my methods doesn't work it's your fault!" It is interesting that in 21 we are being a witness of this... Seeing history repeating itself... It is interesting, why the history repeats itself ? I believe now that the reason is justification... It was really a shock of reality seeing this, pretty ironic... But well, i must ignore all this sadly because i can not change it ... It just makes me more depressed , prejudiced, hateful and etc... Since the day that i discovered this i could not even focus on my life LoL... I spent all day debating here on the internet... But it seems that they changed the definition of racism(what is a FUCKIN mistake and a contradiction... According tp them racial discrimination is not racism...but when a white man do it is racism... Because they have the power... The shit is hilarious because they do not judge you by you individuality but by the group you belong... It means that: even if you are homeless and poor... You can't be racist to a rich black man because you belong in a powerful "group"... The shit is hilarious because there's always something to justify their actions and it's even a contradiction... When they scream: "we want racism to end" according to their own logoc they are only fighting against the system and not the individual level... In any words: they are nkt fighting for what is fair, but to benefit them!. It is also a contradiction because they hate when a action of a person has different consequences than a white man because they belong in another... But in the same time: your actions receive different consequences because you bwlong in an other group... It is also a double standard and hypocritical because they hate it but they do it anyway what is hilarious! I can't debate with this... The environment is very toxic... I am gonna follow the methods of morgan freeman .. If they have a problem with him screw them... Their methods only made it worse and proved that they aren't fighting for other groups but only to benefit themselves... It doesn't matter, in anyways we will have minority and majority... The only way that could solve this is segregation(what i am against it because i believe that we as a human we need to learn to live to what is different... How can we involve to another civilization and maybe live with another civilization ?) because to them majority has the power therefore they are the oppressor(i am having a feeling of that ideology where: if you are poor it's because you are opressed and the rich is the oppressor...) it doesn't solve anything, it just blames the majority... Research suggest that in 2044 "white" will become a minority... Thefore they can not be racist and are opressed... But the problem is: are they gonna follow the same logic or are they going to change them ? In both scenario we do not win... The majority will always be guilty of anything... The only way that could solve this is segregation where they have their own power(what i do not agree because as i said: this is stupid and we need to involve as a thinking being...) They may be starting a segregation and they have no ideia LOL
@@oxines6979 I do want to point out though, that a lot of white nationalist are taking handpicked examples of cases where minorities are being racist to undermine or excuse their own hateful opinions, and I don't agree with that either. Also the thing you mentioned about white people becoming a minority is called "the great replacement" and it has been proven wrong multiple times from other studies and there are some really good youtube videos debunking this theory. other than that, yeah man, i think its really stupid to blame an entire race for what's essencially a pretty global isssue... you could even argue that every single conflict between two nations could constitute as racism and, i mean, as far im aware, every single country arround the world has had at the very least one conflict with another at least once right?
@@Someone-wr4ms yeah, i agree with you... There are also people using this to justify their hates toward innocent people... I can say it's a vicious cycle... None of it is right...
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She’s the kind of person to say “I’m not racist, I’m just prejudiced”
“I didn’t kill them, I just murdered them”
@@fib7615 to be honest I'm pretty sure there is a difference in terms of meaning between killing and murdering🤔
@@parsamohammadi1488 there is. in fact, the reverse of what the person you’re responding to can actually be quite true. victims of war, of car accidents, etc are killed without being “murdered”
That is a pointless observation. No one says that.
thats when i say "yes.. racially prejudice.. which is what racism is.. 🤦♀️💁♀️"
“It’s difficult to win an argument against a smart person, but impossible to win one against a dumb person.”
So damn true
Never argue with an unintelligent person because they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Well more like impossible for them to admit they’ve lost the argument
Twitter moment
@@SpiderVenom12905 that's the point
"Here's why I said no"
Here comes some big time mental gymnastics folks.
Probably just turned the argument around and had a go at the white dude for slavery and called him a racist for asking her basic questions.
@@chemicalbrucey157 yup lol "im a victim, give me your money"
If only they use those mental gymnastic skills on something productive rather than just complain about pointless things
@@magicalmagicmagician5223 Like becoming salesmen or negotiators.
The popular liberal theory is that because of “power and oppression” minorities can’t be racist, the word we should be using is prejudice… an asshole is still an asshole no matter what you call it
"If somebody hates you because of your skin color or ethnicity, is it racist?"
"Yes."
"If you hate somebody because of their skin color or ethnicity, is it racist?"
"No, because see it's different."
Not even hating really just judging in general🤷♂️
any form of decision or action based on race is racism. not just hate or preference, not just how you personally treat people, but if race has IN ANY WAY BUT THE MOST CLINICAL, OBJECTIVE FASHION affected your decision, the decision was affected by racism.
Growing up i was instilled with the belief that everyone should be treated equally and the people most staunchly against that in my adulthood have been self-proclaimed "anti racists" or some similar label
"see?"
*points at nothing*
@@theblode1337 *That's incorrect.* Racism isn't about _any_ decision, it's about focusing on detrimental traits or about oppressing a group for the advantage of another.
What you _might_ be thinking of is discrimination, but discrimination isn't necessarily a negative connotation. "We have discriminating tastes" refers to people having "higher standards." So if someone says, "ethnic group B is lazy, but ethnic group A is hard working and well educated" and that person doesn't belong to group A, it isn't racism. Even saying "group B is lazy" doesn't refer to racism if you're using facts and/or statistics to support your position.
Pointing out that Germans have always made great beers and pianos regardless of what country they've moved to isn't racism; it's just a fact that history shows.
By your own admission, there is a difference. You have written that racism is 'about focusing on detrimental traits or about oppressing a group for the advantage of another', and that's two different criteria, two completely different definitions. In one specific context one requirement may be met, and in another context the other requirement may be met. The point being that there are different ways to understand the concept, and silly debates such as this one rely precisely on conflating different ideas for the purpose of equivocation. It's not very different from when you hear people say 'well but evolution is just a theory'.
More specifically, if racism consists of having a negative feeling or unfair prejudice that relies excessively on ethnicity, then of course a black person who doesn't like Asians is being racist. The girl could have said that. But if there is no oppression, no discrimination, the person doesn't hold any power over those people, and therefore those other people can barely experience any negative consequences as a result, then it is hardly what we call racism when they think of centuries of enslaving and discriminating a group of people for profit. And the girl could have also said that.
I mean, I don't know about you, but I've seen black people joke derisively at how white people talk or walk, and if I have to use the same word for that than what I use to refer to early Australian settlers having aboriginals on leashes, then there is definitely a problem with the language.
*His Disappointment is Immeasurable and his Day is Ruined*
poor white man.
@@andyd3447 uhhhh what
@@user-no9qb6lj7c I said what i said.
Are you also “running on empty”?
@@shellackyshell lol what
Defending someone’s racism because they are part of a minority group is next level ignorance.
especially when they’re only a minority in one area of the world, that word isn’t applicable to every situation
liberal moment
That’s common sense to all the liberals
Ikr these idiots think they’re the only minority on earth. Some people try so hard to be a victim it’s pathetic.
She's not defending racism, she's just arguing semantics.
Saying a Hispanic person can’t be racist to an Asian person is racist
No it’s not but acting on that statement is
Saying a person can’t be racist to an Asian isn’t racist lol, no one should be racist to Asian people, they’re just using an example to show the other person’s hypocrisy. Racism is racism.
I mean, in a way it is. Because racism is thinking another race is beneath you. So saying "Hispanic people can't be racist" or "black people can't be racist" is saying you are above racism and the "other races" that are racist
I'm hispanic and I cringed watching this video
Racism is about races (skin colour) can be sorted in a form hierarchy. But since we humans all (no matter skin colour) still one specie the "race theory" is wrong. But people who beleive it and beleive in racial biology are "racists". However having prejudices against people cause of their skin colour is not the same as being racist. But beleiving that there is different human species and some rank above other (based on skin colour) is racist.
I guess? Racist is an overused word and has lost its meaning...
As soon as she starts responding she has that half smile because she knows what she's about to say is complete bullshit.
She may as well have said
_"I know you're right but if I talk for long enough and divert your logic over here, maybe you'll think I'm right instead"_
Also, as soon as he rubs his face and grunts when she's bullshitting her answers, we know where this is going.
The answer she is looking for is... yes, yes it is.
are you the guy in the video?
Well yes, but actually no.
@@nekozaemon3803 bruh
Where you from mate, having trouble placing the accent
Unfortunately only white people can be blamed as RACIST. If others do the same thing they are god. BLM runs on hypocrisy.
Racism isn't just confined to a race. Literally anyone can be racist.
People can even be racist to their own race. I used to know a guy who hated his whole family other than his current guardian (his white stepmom) and hated the rest of his family for being black, despite being black himself. It was weird. I dont even know why the dude only lived with his stepmom.
@@eclipsesable7276 A few years ago I watched a documentary called Dark Girls that was about these black women who experienced racism from within their own black communities. Was really shocking and sad to hear
@@eclipsesable7276 I had a friend in high school who was the same way. Never had a good thing to say about them and always used the worst of words.
@@eclipsesable7276 hating his old family isn't racist, tho. He might hate his family, and then the flame spread into black people in general. It's like people who hates CCP and eventually hate the mainlander.
Thanks for the wise words, Morgana.
From a black person; I am sorry, to all the cultures and ethnicities of the world that some people think that by being black you cannot be racist.
Racial prejudice is not dependant on the colour of your skin. It is not confined to a group of people and excluding of another. It is absolutely absurd that people think this. They are the ones who need the anti-racist training. For goodness sake.
Well said.
Well said indeed but you don't need to apologize for other people's arrogance lol
Sometimes I feel like racism isn’t always the right way to teach start teaching people about racism. it need to be more of a blanket statement like prejudice. slow people will get confused and attached to the race part of it.
A Prejudice is when one assumes something or believes a fact applies to everyone or everything within a group.
Everyone is prejudicious agents something or another and sometimes the that thing is the specific colour which is what racism is.
Ironical prejudices aren’t prejudice
They should learn one thing instead: Hatred and ignorance knows no boundaries.
I love his reaction. He just felt so frustrated yet so patient at the same time. I really admire that.
You shouldn't love that reaction though. That "patience" is actually tolerance taken to the extreme. He's being a weak human.
All this woke crap started off as "funny" now look at the situation. Western cultures finally are starting to say no. But it's an issue still.
@@JoNNyCLOUD171 Is that what you’re reading into this?
@@JoNNyCLOUD171 If you had watched the original with context you wouldn't have said that. She didn't phrase her response well, but she ended up saying that it would be discrimination but not racism, because she believes racism can only occur from a "powerful" racial group towards a less "powerful" one. Certainly debatable but it's not like she's saying that it would be ok for hispanics to have racial prejudice against asians.
@@jojodroid31 well now black people are the most powerful race group in america due to the better treatment throuh "positive discrimination" which i think is bs and is just another word for "we r racist but we gave it a funny name"
@@JoNNyCLOUD171 the "patience" is required to talk to people like that. if you take the combative approach they shut down and will not talk to you. A lot of people like that cannot handle being directly disagreed with. calling him a weak human is insane btw
This is proof that the body can still function long after the brain dies.
Now that's a good one!
😂😂
SAVAGE
That's 99% of the human population. Where all morons with our own stupid opinions.
Nailed it!
For whatever reason this girl genuinely doesn't know the definition of racism.
Nah man she knows the definition of racism. It's just an alternative definition. WAIT WAIT WAIT ITS NOT ALTERNATIVE FACTS, COMPLETELY DIFFERENT WAIT NO FOR REAL. NOT THE SAME
She’s too ‘WOKE’
She does. She just confuses individual racism with systematic racism.
You don‘t seem to understand the difference.
@@Chrisko1492 You don’t seem to understand the question. Before you come at me with “you have privilege”, I’m Indian.
@@Chrisko1492 I just use the definition in the dictionary, buddy.
“Black people can’t be racist. They can be prejudice.” Wtf is the difference, it’s not making it better.
Exactly
That's what soft language does to people.
So many idiots would replace words with another while still keeping the same meaning but in a way that would least offend them.
Like how they call fat people "plus-sized" or "curvy".
The problem with this is that this is just like spraying a powerful perfume on a turd. It may smell like a rose, but underneath it's still a piece of sh1t.
I really hate this re-definition of the word "racist". A "Racist" is someone who believes that there is a measurable difference between the different ethnicities; that there are literally separate races of humans. For example, they'd believe African-descendant people to be more predisposed towards violence or that Asian-descendant people would be harder workers and so on.
If you are not a racist, then you believe that we are all ultimately the same as humans and our differences are either superficial or cultural.
Power dynamics have nothing to do with it. It is about a person's world view.
Equivocation fallacy! Love to see it. Extreme racial prejudice but not racism, so therefore it's fine by their standards
What does place people can’t be racist have anything to do with the video ?
I love that the the music is louder than her explaining why 😂
It's preferable to listening to her three thousand worded speech on why being wrong is really being right.
to shield the viewers from brainrot
She didn't phrase her response well, but she ended up saying that it would be discrimination but not racism, because she believes racism can only occur from a "powerful" racial group towards a less "powerful" one. Certainly debatable but it's not like she's saying that it would be ok for hispanics to have racial prejudice against asians.
@@jojodroid31 Racism is racism, no matter which race is guilty of it. This endless bending of the definition to benefit a particular group is what needs to be curbed. It's like people - and in some cases even online dictionaries - are determined to drag the word into a new area where it can only mean a powerful group judging a less powerful group. The word is self-explanatory.
@@upturnedblousecollar5811 I agree with you, just adding context to what she said.
At some point in the vid he said "slavery has existed for thousands of years", she interrupts him and says "centuries, even!". She's not the brightest.
She knows she's wrong. She's just too prideful to admit it. You can tell because instead of saying "no", she immediately tries to justify herself before she even gives the answer.
It’s the I am not racist, but… response
Classic!
Pride before the fall
Good observation actually
Maybe shes also just slowly realizing her views and beliefs are just plain racist lmao
That's terrible logic. She's obviously wrong but people do that when they know something thinks they have a gotcha that they disagree with.
Fact: Anyone can be racist. It is not exclusive to one group.
Fr. Every time i say this ppl say “you can’t suppress the suppressor” Like are they trying to say every white person is a suppressor???
@@BubbaMaraj7241 yes, that's exactly what they wanna say. And oftentimes they say it too.
@@annasediitss5467 ???? Racism is equal opportunity and just because you where raised racist don't make it okay
@@annasediitss5467 what's wrong with the world is we dont wanna play semantics?
@@annasediitss5467 wait...
Nooo no nooo
You could just as easily say what i said back to me
Noooooooooooooooooo
I want to say that, as a person living in NY, racism is VERY normalized. Especially towards Asians. So the fact that she thinks that, isn’t surprising, but it’s still disgusting.
New York is praised for its acceptance and diversity, but Queens is the only place that is actually even semi free of discrimination.
Half of my town is a bunch of hicks that are racist and then the other half is the type that wants to purge all straight white men. Wtf is NY
@@ebola1232
Two extremes in one place - that's kinda diverse - but I feel that would create a literal melting pot - i.e. destroying each other instead of living harmoniously.
Oh jeezus that is really not good...
Yeah, a comediant that is Mexican but with asian ascendance was called Beaner and a cop laughed of him...
It traumatize me that she look like Dolores from Encanto 💀
I was like, she was not done talking, let's watch the rest of video. Holy shit , she did not redeem herself. She dug herself a even bigger hole to climb out of.
@michael payne That's what OP was saying
@michael payne 😂 Fair enough dude
@michael payne lmao
What’s the video called?
@@speaking8206 th-cam.com/video/3Boe6xJo21Y/w-d-xo.html
34:45 time stamp
The fact this is a debate is disgusting. Edit: HOLY crap why did this of all comments get replies? I'll add to it to make it more intelligent and less generic (I guess people love generic stuff or this was one thing we could finally agree on): everything is a debate these days and that is scary. Everything has two sides and we cannot agree on one thing. Of course the media often takes one side but that side depends on where you live. The fact we cannot agree on this shows how divided our country has become. Or maybe it always was. I don't think so but I am young so can't say for sure.
@Some dude on Twitter stalked me here Tell me your definition of racism and where you got it from. Because on google it equates it to prejudice. There is no difference. You're right about the powers of systemic rac*sm and listed each privilege eloquently and succinctly but that isn't the definition of rac*sm it's the definition of systemic rac*sm
Yeah
"yes, let's fix racism by using reverse racism"
Your standard for disgust is disgustingly low
@@mushrooka It's not reverse racism, it's just racism.
@@jesussanchez9106 I think debating the existence of racism across races is disgusting
The frustration in his eyes 😂😭
Her belief system is rooted in critical race theory. It's really messed up. Basically if you're in a minority group you cannot be racist because you lack 'the power' to be racist. Ludicrous.
@@threegenders201 Black people can't be systemically racist since there's no legal or judicial system that black people have great sway over. However, they can definitely be racist towards individuals. A black dude can beat an Asian dude and that would be racist, but that black dude probably would still feel the full wrath of the judicial system if they are caught.
@@sylvestergharold7265 Oh like OJ? Do the threats of destroying a city if he wasn't found innocent count as 'sway'? I swear this word 'systemic' needs to get thrown in the trash.
At what point do a certain number of people with a certain skin color have to 'hold sway' before the system is no longer 'systemically racist'? And isn't that a system BY DEFINITION racist because you're just deciding who is racist based on the skin color of the majority, regardless of the character of those people? If there was a black judge who hated black people, giving them harsh sentences non stop and a more lenient white judge, then by your own messed up beliefs you could clone the black judge a million times and solve the systemic racism.
@@sylvestergharold7265 The only racist laws in the US are pro-black and anti-white
420 ayeee
A lot of the most racially prejudiced things I have heard have been uttered by a member of an ethnic minority. I had a friend who was told by his gf's parents that he was great but he was too white.
I was thinking "hmm he sounds like a rational minded individual and is making reasonable points how did he f*ck up bad enough to end up in a video like this" and then it changed to her and everything cleared up lol
I was waiting for him to say the n-word or something
He made pretty basic points guess your weeb brain got blown by that
@@acdesegurgels8663 you see, the OP being a weeb brained is irrelevant. but adding to your statement, it's so rare to see a person with a rational minded people on the internet
Bois it seems to be just a troll his account is 3 weeks old he probably just had a bad day and wanted to argue with people online and made a new account just ignore him lmao
@@acdesegurgels8663 basic is not the same as reasonable dude. I guess your brain never quite grasped that.
I love how he phrases it in such a clear logical way that the only option is to either say yes or out yourself as an idiot
Well, that seemed to be an easy choice for her.
In your opinion
@@basilbrush9075 universal opinion
@@mohit5709 Clearly not. The whole argument is about semantics and word use, the two people probably don't have a different understanding of how immoral each situation is, just a different perception of what racism means.
It's just being used here as some kind of anti-woke 'gotcha'
@@basilbrush9075 i mean if ur gulity u feel they r trynna embarrass u with "gotcha"....but if ur genuine u feel this is an healthy convo.....and based on ur mindset u belong the former category i guess
I'm honestly not surprised people like this exist. She's probably the average Twitter user.
lmao
Many of them are college graduates too. It's fucking sad.
@@bryana1041 Yeah college nowadays is just soyboys and LiBerAl ArTs and Twitter cancellation bullshit
@@trippie_fabio3181 If you had actual free universities where the state could manage that the courses are actually laic and secular, that wouldn't happen.
@@92brunod thats not a solution. There are plenty of public high schools with the same problem.
I’m so glad you spared me from whatever garbage was about to spew from her mouth
As a black person the mental gymnastics and lengths some go to justify racism is terrible. Treat others the way you wanna be treated
I agree with you. This is common knowledge. I guess the idiots are quick to forget the most memorable rule in the world. If any idiots are reading this, do all of us a favor and do NOT breed.
Democrats logic: treat other Democrats the way they want to be treated, but treat republicans and white people with racism and identity politics 🤡✊🏽🐑
@@Us3r739 that has absolutely nothing to do with the original comment lol what
@@Us3r739 what are you talking about
A user delusional
*Opens dictionary*
_Looks at meaning of Double Standards_
Double Standards: *This video*
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@@vher21 S P O R T S
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why are you everywhere?
I’m Hispanic I am not afraid to say my family is racist to Asian people. It’s that simple.
To clarify I’m not racist to anyone, that’s why I said my family and not me and my family.
Also my family doesn’t hate Asian people, they just see Asian people as easy to make fun of, so they do that a lot
Your family sucks. It's that simple.
Rascist in a hate sense or stereotype sense cause I feel like that matters?????? Am I alone?
@@joshhponce6768 stereotype wise its never actually racist, its just people who are sensitive calling it racist
@@joshhponce6768 I think it’s really only racism if it comes from a place of hate, if it’s just believing stereotypes it’s probably more just ignorance
@@elvewizzy no we arent all a little bit racist lol. Some of us actually think logically.
Bruh the amount of cope and rationalization she’s going through to argue this is unimaginable.
This is critical race theory. Which is based on the idea that white people are specifically evil, and this is due to them being what are considered the spiritual ancestors of Esau.
Racism comes in all colors . Whites ,brown ,yellow ,black it doesn't matter racism is racism
This deserves r/cursedcomments
Exactly !
@@slugyourpal why
Yeah not black
@@slugyourpal why?
“Can’t be racist, only prejudice”... 🤔... prejudice.... on the subject of race. It’s called racism. And prejudice on the subject of sex is called sexism. Does this clear up anything for her? Racism is prejudice regarding race. So they are racist
And thats where you made a mistake. Her definition of racism is totaly different, than the classical one. And thats why its so stupid, you have a word with a meaning, now you change the meaning and expect everyone else to follow. That her definition of racism is racist in itself makes it only funnier.
@@heret1c385 War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength.
@@niranekomata3383 What kind of crappy dictionary contains that definition? Please tell me so that I may avoid like the plague and never use it again 🤣
@@jay-leebusque-blackburn6747 It’s called Twitter
@@heret1c385 what kind of newspeak bullshit is that!?
The amount of micro-agressions and racism I see my black brothers display towards Asians (especially Chinese) is ridiculous. If you want to be treated as human, treat people as humans too.
@@antiracistbaby1085 alr I start, I hate u.
@@ĐłłĐĐØ27 I'll go second I hate you even more bro
@@antiracistbaby1085 wow dude you're so edgy. nearly cvt myself from all this edge. 😐
@@thearizonaranger4079 I like this new system
Look at how Shaq treated Yao Ming when he first joined the NBA.
"let me say im not racist by saying some racist things". well done , gal
To her, racism should be a purely black issue so she can continue using it to defend her victim mentality.
Me insulting asian people, cause they're asian*
everyonesshocked*
Me: "No no! It is okay! I am half hispanic!"
everyonesrelieved*
🤣
😂😂😂😂
*Asian person insults back. Race war ensues.*
Edit: Grammar
@@that_dam_baka LA riots in a nutshell
This is funny af
As a Hispanic myself……. Yes it is most definitely racism 😂everyone has the potential to be racist and the fact that people don’t think that is mind boggling 😂🤦🏾♂️
i think theyre just trying to excuse their racism, but after all, discrimination makes racism bad, so any form of discrimination is bad not just racism, just because you're not racist doesnt mesn you're a good person is my point
Exactly lmaoo
@@antiracistbaby1085 That Disney Channel Reasoning lmao
As an asian person its mind boggling that some minorities hold the belief that if you are from a minority race, it means you cannot be racist. My parents are really racist towards indian ppl for example. Even within the asian subgroup there is racism. Its really sad honestly.
@@antiracistbaby1085 What? Change your mindset.
She’s probably one of those “It’s not racist, it’s prejudiced” people
As if racism is not defined as prejudice towards another race 😕
That argument comes up because in certain fields of sociology, racism is dependent upon the dominant group in a society, where the term racism refers strictly to a certain race that is in power, being prejudiced to a race with less power. This definition someone's makes sense in sociology, as it's the study of society and groups of people interacting, so defining it based on the group in power makes sense.
This definition however of course does not make sense in common use, or to describe any individuals actions.
@@zetahurley294 semantics
@@carlsmith4568 not really you're not smart enough to understand what semantic means
@@zetahurley294 wouldn’t the perpetuation of current Systemic racial inequalities be better be described as ethno-nationalism? so guilty individuals would be better described as ethnic-nationalists?
@@carlsmith4568 The fuck does that have to do with "sEmAnTiCs", she explained where the definition comes from and why it's not appropriate in this context.
Bro didnt even get to "if a black black person.." yet
As a racist, I can say that nascar is the best race.
Drive fast and turn left sumtiiimes.
As a racist I can say F1 is better when mercades aren't winning all the time. But then again if i mention a specific 7 time world champion, i would be racist.
@@datgood121 what's wrong with Schumacher?
@@AnandJoshi-p2z the other 7 time world champion
@@datgood121 i know, i was just kidding
"I can't be racist, I'm black"
I remember people who used to pull that card 😭✋
Even though black people are the most vulnerable to racism, especially very dark black people, that doesn't justify him doing the same to other people who also suffer some kind of prejudice.
It's not about liking, it's about respecting.
Harold and Kumar had a funny af scene like that
Kumar: what are you racist? 😠
guy: racist? dude i'm black 🤨
Harold: he's black, he's not racist 😄
@@hairandcia2028 No, obviously Jews are the most vulnerable to racism you antisemite.
wBlueprint is one of those people. Despite being married to a white girl, he claimed that she still hasn't earned a "black card", as if that merits exclusive respect over any other living person.
Imagine your husband telling you he does't trust or respect you as much as some random black people he's never even met.
@@hairandcia2028 "black people are the most vulnerable to racism" lmaooooooo
"Is racism racist?"
"It depends on who is being racist"
"Racism isn't racist when black ppl r racist. But racism is actually racism when white ppl are racist"
Black people cant be wrong because wrong is incorrect plus power. Therefore they can be incorrect but not wrong.
@@JohnnyPaisan 😂😂😂😂 you say it jokingly but people actually do believe that lmao
Just like how people go around saying "White Boy" casually. But when someone says "brown boy" or "black boy" it's racist. Come on now.
@@genericwhitemale1114 yeah you can always find groups of like minded individuals for any topic under the sun. Doesn’t change the fact their dumb. I’m glad you’re able to apply common sense
@@zach4832 Imagine calling someone else dumb when you spelled “their” instead of “they’re.” How ironic.
As an Asian, I'll just say I experienced a lot more racism from a certain group of people, and they were not white
"It's not racism, it's prejudice..."
So practically she said that she is racist, but uses another label for racism. My God...
Kinda, she's probably using a different definition for racism, one that doesn't make any sense when applied to individual people.
Thats what Im saying!!! The very first time I was exposed to that term, I was confused! What the hell is the difference? Being racist is basically being prejudiced towards a certain race. Like ?????
@@thiccarmybomb2395 It's a tenuous difference. Think of it as systemic racism vs regular racism. An individual can be racist towards another person, but that individual may not be part of a group that controls the judicial or legal systems.
South African Apartheid is a good example of this: even if a white person was treated badly by black people there, the white people still held all the legislative and judicial power and so we're systemically racist against black people. The black people could still be racist but they still would have felt a judge's full wrath. This is contrasted to how white judges oftentimes don't charge white offenders because they are "hardworking men at heart" or some similar excuse.
@@sylvestergharold7265 bro spewing alot of BS here. When u have black officials is the government still "systematic racist"? Stop please. You dont understand racism and how it works. You were not a slave in 1795. You are here now. There are PLENTY of black officials in America that dont give a fuck what happens to people. Its not systematically racist of them to support loaded prisons. Ok? Ok.
@@tommysuhlami6241 13th amendment, Section 1: "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction." Slavery is still legal in the prison system. It's no wonder that so many politicians want loaded prisons. Seeing as black people also receive longer sentences compared to white people for the same crimes, I can't imagine how you can say racism isn't still pervasive in the prison system.
*“Racism by thee, but not by me”*
facism by my party based facism on me u hitler
@Bender Rodriguez well i am fascists from Germany so emglish ain't my mouther tounge
You messed it up. It’s: “Racism by thy, but not by thee”
@@nikhilpande819 So you’re a self described fascist? In that case you’re unwelcome.
@Bender Rodriguez He is Indian and you are Spanish
As an Asian, this argument makes me fucking miserable.
My family members can literally be killed in the streets and I’d have to grieve them knowing that there’s going to be a debate about it rather than just acknowledging it for what it was: Asian hate, and racism. Racism is literally just treating or thinking lesser of somebody because of their race. Prejudice can be racism, but it can also just be 200 other things. Using prejudice in terms of racial crimes just sounds like racism to me.
Anyone who’s been robbed of something or insulted just because of their race has experienced racism, even if they’re in the majority.
It's a terrible thought. I hope that nothing like that happens in your community, especially over all these things that you could have no influence on.
Best of luck out there and I hope you're all safe.
Unfortunately, the African American community thinks they own that word and can dictate who and what is racist.
@@Cheddar_Wizard Huh?
@@toyyibatadewunmi8170 Racism. They think they own that word and what it means.
@@Cheddar_Wizard As an AA myself, it’s honestly weird. You can tell a lot of us have internalized racism.
EDIT: Lemme clarify myself since apparently I have to. I meant internalized racism from slavery. That is why I said “AA”(African AMERICAN). A lot of us are even racist towards each other. NOT ALL black people, Jesus Christ.
I love how you just start blaring the music over her racism!! 🤣🤣
As an Asian American who has gone through the public school system (specifically one still suffering from negative effects of integration like inter-minority racism), all of the racist acts that I’ve experienced mostly came from my fellow Hispanic and Black peers. It hurts to say this because there has never been justice for Asians. Worst memory was when a Black male student walked up to me and called me a Chinese b***h (I’m not Chinese).
Fellow Asian American here. I’m sorry you had experienced that. I was born as a Chinese/Cantonese person in the USA. I live in a diverse town of so many different backgrounds, but even then I never felt like I fit in. I have never been received racist comments, but as I grew up I noticed that I was picked on by a lot of Black and Hispanic kids. Even then most of my relatives were assaulted when they lived in NYC. And it didn’t help the fact that the public school system taught history in black and white. But we got to stick together.
I have never been in any other country but when i go to websites like omegle, especially when the covid started some people will say something about me being asian like blah blah blah covid and most of them are black lol
Sounds rough. I hope things are better for you now. Seeing all the horrible things people are doing to the Asian community sucks. There isn't a thing in this world that justifies treating your fellow person like that.
That's horrible im sorry you had to go through something like that.
We had 2 transfer students in our high school before full Chinese but knew some English. Wonderful people I wish i got to know them more
But you see, if we start focusing on the Asians that are receiving hate then it distracts from the Black Lives that Matter
as a hispanic, yes that would be racist. not a single race or ethnicity can’t not be racist. every single race and ethnicity that has ever existed has had racist people and still do have racist people. racism is everywhere, not generalized to one particular race or exempt from one particular race
yeah, thats why the whole racism = prejudice+power thing always felt a bit off, even if you are a minority you can still be racist to orhers who aren't, i'm also hispanic, and if i were to hate a white guy just because they're white, believe it or not that would be racist
@@Abrahamwaffle Spot on, the both of you 🙌
It's absolutely mind blowing that we have to say things like this. The simple notion of "you're racist if you're racist" seems to be controversial to a worrisome amount of people. It's... concerning, to say the least.
@@Abrahamwaffle Yeah this is why these discussions aren't very interesting to me. It's basically just semantics
Like you said there are some who believe that racism = prejudice + power. So when they say something like, "Black people can't be racist" they're saying, "Black people are the victims of systemic racist and therefore are not perpetrators of it."
Other people believe that racism = hating someone because of their race. Therefore anyone can be racist.
The arguments always devolves into the definition of the word "racist", but I bet most people would agree that there is systemic racism in the US, and there are people that hate others because of their race, and both things are bad.
@@Abrahamwaffle for racism to be meaningful your group needs to be dominant for eg a jew in germany during 1940s being racist against Anglo isnt the same as the opposite
Part of me wants to hear what she has to say, but then again, I couldn’t care less.
Hello fellow Brit? Thanks for not writing "I *could* care less"!!
@Seb Edgar No! Loads of Americans say "I could care less", which doesn't make any sense!
This has got to be the first time I’ve actually seen someone write “couldn’t” instead of “could care less”. Thank you so much.
@@mrfocigaz4942 I came to this reply section just to say that but you beat me to it. Really bugs me when people say they ‘COULD care less’.
@@mrfocigaz4942 I’m a freedom eagle tho.
Bruh, no one is buying this shit that doesn't live their entire life on Twitter.
She knew she was not winning, so she blocked the answer and tried defending, but by not answering you have already lost the argument and are digging yourself a deeper, dumber hole.
It's because people like her want to be racist but don't want to be called a racist..
I don't think any holes are as deep as hers
This is the exact thing I thought when she started stumbling over her words
Fun fact: a dumb hole is the audio equivalent of a black hole.
Fact. If she was at all confident in her answer she wouldve at least start with "no"
Bruh she is literally the living embodiment of “not to be racist or anything but Asian people are GHHAAAAAAA”
I can literally hear this comment lmao, this made my day
I FORGOT ABOUT THAT VINE, THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME!
*wheeze*
I think it’s Asian people Sሁሁሁሁሁሁሁሁሁሁሁሁሁ
first time seeing that vine in the wild was funny, but it wasn't funny once the racist girls at school unironically started saying it too
Philosophy student here. What many anti-racism activists are trying to do is defining racism as "discrimination of a minority ethnic group by the majority ethnic group" instead of "discrimination based on ethnicity".
It's important to see that if you accept their definition, then it is in fact a valid argument for example to say that black people cannot be racist towards white people. The issue really is though that this definition of racism is at best misleading or possibly even dishonest. The important point is: Even though the argument itself is actually not fallacious... if you think about it, it becomes a very insignificant statement. To illustrate that: Suppose that we define traffic collisions as "accidents that involve two blue cars crashing into each other". In this case it would be a valid argument to say that a motorcycle crashing into another motorcycle or even a red car crashing into a blue car isn't actually a traffic collision. It will now of course be a very insignificant statement to say that 100% of all traffic collisions involve blue cars, when we have already predefined them that way.
We can do the same thing with racism: Let's now for example define racism as "discrimination of black people by white Canadians aged between 7 and 17". Just like before, it would be a valid argument to say that in this case only white Canadians aged between 7 and 17 can be racist. But the thing is: Should we accept this definition? No we shouldn't, because even though it is logically valid, it's misleading, since most people simply have a different definition.
So what is the actual problem? It's mere word games resulting in a misunderstanding. The one group is making a valid, but misleading (and often insignificant) argument, while the other is trying to disprove the argument, but failing at it, because they do not discuss the definitions first. I personally would either reject a definition of racism that does not include the discrimination of all ethnicities... Or if someone insist on using their definition for racism: Go with it for the sake of argument, but make it very clear to the audience, what definition for racism is used within the framework of the debate and then discuss it. Otherwise you will talk about completely different things.
Idk whats the right term for this but calling racism smth. that excludes certain races is racist in itself.
if we define cheese as potato then it makes sense to say that cheese doesn't melt because it bakes, since it's a potato.
yes, that is logically valid but it is also moronically stupid
I feel that the word "racist" was hijacked and redefined due to how much easier and faster it rolls off the tongue than the word "prejudiced".
Imma go ahead and redefine theft as taking other people's belongings without their consent, unless done by me.
I can now take your stuff and it's not stealing. The power of logic!
@@tadeuszadach5732 yes, that's pretty much what I'm saying. But I think it's important to realize that sometimes it makes sense to use definitions that are uncommon in order to express a complex thought. You just have to be clear about what you actually want to say. I just think that some activists remain intentionally vague and don't want the definitions to be clear, so that they can hide fallacies in their arguments. For example they often tend to switch definitions in the middle of the argument depending on what they currently need (equivocation fallacy). That tactic actually requires some skill, which is why I wouldn't brush it aside as stupidity. I genuinely think they are straight up lying, because they feel they can persuade more people that way.
I thought the reason the stop Asian hate movement died was because they started noticing predominantly black people were doing it
Like man, I haven't seen a stop Asian hate hashtag in like a year
It did
Man-Ray: “Aren’t you Patrick Star?”
Patrick: “Yup.”
Man-Ray: “And this is your ID?”
Patrick: “Yup.”
Man-Ray: “I found this ID in this wallet, and if that’s the case this must be your wallet.”
Patrick: “That makes sense to me.”
Man-Ray: “Then take it.”
Patrick: “It’s not my wallet!”
Lol thank you for this, I need to go back and watch that episode
I heard this scene so clearly in my head lolol
Ah classic Spongebob. Never gets old
Sums this up perfectly
Literally the vibes of this video lol
She's the reincarnation of that "not be racist, but asian people-" meme.
*"SUUUUUUCC"*
*godzilla screech*
I'm not racist, but Asian people come from Asia.
stolen srsly bro the stolen comment is like 2 comments above why u gotta be stealing
OMG you mean the vine where the girl is like ‘not to be racist but- *demonic sounding noise that I think is an inhale-laugh*” ? XD
Him: if a Hispanic person hates an Asian is that racist
Her: “It all started when I was born”
To be fair, she was born at a very young age.
Lmao, friendly neighborhood reminder: Saying/believing only certain races of people can be racist, is literally racist.
The fact that she’s trying to explain it...
“Black people can’t be racist!”
Guess who’s never seen Hotel Rwanda?
I think I'm going to go cry over that pain I have been reminded of. That movie is fantastic at how well it displays that tragedy.
God I gotta see that movie again
Incredible movie, I cannot believe what is happing the real life hero of that movie. I pray for him and his family.
I think that was more tribalism than racism...
@@toyyibatadewunmi8170
Probably a fair point.
Average person “yes that would be racist”
unexceptional Twitter enjoyer “no”
It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person.
The only winning move is not to play.
Joshua
These people in positions of power and authority is a scary thought
Luckily most people don't take these people seriously
@Shadow Of Wiggin do you think it's possible that a town where the only opportunities a kid has is sports is structured well. Also there are no public schools that I know of that don't allow gender, but I understand if that is a topic you want to shelter kids from. In reality the children growing up with gender identity issues are always going to exist and making them feel invalid is un-american. Also I don't know what equity classes are, but I think you mean equality? Once again I don't see how that is a bad thing. I think children should grow up being kind and tolerant so that might stick in their adult years. So, in summary a state reallocating funds from sports programs that really don't send all that many kids to college and using that money on education isn't bad. Education is good and if more people were educated we might not fight as much.
@@jackkingsby116 The problem comes when school start teaching white kids they are bad and its their fault other races aren't doing well and they should feel bad an apologies for things that happened before they were even conceived
Critical race theory is also creeping into our schools teaching kids they should judge each other based on their skin colour first
@@chemicalbrucey157 that's not what critical race theory is. Critical race theory is how past use of race has had lasting effects on the world. Which is true regardless of your beliefs on race. Also it's not about shaming white people. It is all about educating everyone on the atrocities that have been committed in the name of progress.
@@chemicalbrucey157 schools aren’t teaching that white people bad and critical race theory isn’t even part of the school curriculum. Why do people always make this false claim I don’t fucking get it. Is it because there’s one presentation being taught to teachers to not be racist? Is that it? Or teaching kids hey guys don’t be racist. Is that critical race theory to you?
The fact that people actually have this mentality and have convinced other people to believe in it makes me lose hope for humanity every day
You can teach a kid anything
It's how it is with humans. We subscribe to combination of ideologies. From childhood you get bashed into your head all sorts of beliefs. In past it was mostly religion. But now with secularism it is free market, parents can teach children whatever. It's an unfortunate effect of freedom of choice/belief.
Yeah I've had this debate of "you can't be racist against white or asian people" before and it's just incredibly frustrating. The gymnastics they go through to bend the meaning of words... there's just nothing you can say to convince them. I got one to admit that "discrimination" exists but not "racism". So strange... I don't know what words mean anymore.
Embrace absurdism friend.
She’s the type of girl who knows that there’s caffeine in coffee but doesn’t know if there’s caffeine in iced coffee as well.
Know*
yeah this doesnt make any sense sorry
For those who appeared to be confused here's an overexplanation of what ZONG is saying. ZONG is saying that since coffee has caffeine in it, it would only be logical to assume that iced coffee would also have caffeine because it's just coffee with ice. This is a comparison to her knowing that hating an asain based on race is racist but thinking that a hispanic hating an asian based on race isn't racist even though it's just racism from another race. So ZONG is saying that since this person can't understand racism is racism even if performed by a different race; she would then also not understand that iced coffee has caffeine like knowing there's caffeine in normal coffee because the only difference is ice. (If that even makes any sense to you?)
@@nellucthegreat Thanks
Weird analogy
im so glad th e music at the end was loud enough to block out her bullshit
i hate people who think that "i am [race] so i can't be racist", it's a stupid argument. it literally doesn't matter what race you are, you can be racist to ANYONE, including your own
i wrote this weeks ago and i didn't expect politics to be brought up but I'm not surprised either
Nikole Hannah Jones is shaking rn.
The sociological definition of racism, like the term minority, is dependent upon power. In South Africa there are less white people than black people but black people are considered the minority because of having less power within that society; i.e. white people being able to institute an apartheid despite their smaller numbers in South Africa. Racism is racial bias enacted on minorities from the majority. Race based biases enacted on the majority from someone in a minority is prejudice.
The public has warped the definition of racism similarly to what people are doing now with the word sociopath. There is no diagnosis of sociopathy and often times, but not exclusively, what people would refer to as sociopathic behavior would fall under Antisocial Personality Disorder. People who aren't knowledgeable about a field disseminating incorrect/inaccurate information is what many times makes the idea of common knowledge a misnomer.
The simple fact of saying "i am [race] so i must or i can't... " Is by definition racist
@@ksp6091 I would disagree with you there and here's an example of why. "I am [white] in South Africa so I can't [be a minority despite by numbers there being less white than black people in the country]." I don't think that the example I gave is racist and it's truth is tied to the idea that power affects categories we can or can't be in similar to racism.
Candace Owens shaking rn
I'm Asian and I went on a date with this Black guy who grew up in France and he was badmouthing other east-asian ethnicities including my own & when I told him I was fully Malay, (one of those races he was badmouthing) he straight up responded with "Black people can't be racist" needless to say I never saw him again *but* before I did: I had to call him out for his offensive remarks especially when he CHOSE my home country for his student exchange program… 100% anybody can be a disgusting racist 🥴
Damn, that's really gross of him to say something racist, and gaslight you after basically insulting you. He still should've apologized to you even if he thinks he can't be racist cuz he's black. I'm sorry you had to experience that.
Black guy tu duk Malaysia ke?
What a hypocrite. You deserve better
Yep, it’s crazy how often that has happened to me as well. It’s like wow.
Yes I am black myself and I time and time again tell my black peers that black people can be racist and I'm sorry this happened to you. On another note you said "including my own race" but Malaysian isn't a race it's an nationality, just keep that in mind for future reference. Race, ethnicity and nationality are not any of the same thing.
Someone once told me that black people can't be racist
I said to them that telling me I can't do or be something because of the color of my skin is racist in itself.
Ya know, i can't tell if this is a joke or serious, but honestly... Thinking about that, made my brain do a perfect kickflip. And i agree
yeah black ppl can't be racist
@@Spirit123Yeah they can...
@@Spirit123 >black people can't be racist
is this a bait or not
@@Spirit123 and why can't they?
Im sorry Im not a biologist.
I'm mexican and I can freely say we are incredibly racists in general
I heard a Mexican song and it was called "n**ro da mierdas"
I think it’s more we feel hatred towards everyone, even our own race.
(I don’t think hatred is the right word but who cares)
Everyone is racist. It's human instinct, that goes back to being chimpanzees. We are territorial and that includes trying to defend our tribe from other tribes. So we feel naturally hostile to other tribes.
@@acemenzel3876 I don’t think that’s entirely true, look at kids for example their basic human instinct is as basic as can be and I doubt you’ve ever seen a kid below say 4 years old that was racist.
@@acemenzel3876 false
This woman’s logic is basically: He didn’t hit her! He just smacked her a bunch and she bruised.
I didn't kill that guy! The knife that was in my hand at the time did!
The molecule from his hand contacted the asian person’s material body and caused a reaction in the nerve from force suddenly applied.
Every human is capable of being racist. Because what is racism? Hate. Pure and simple. Everyone is capable of feeling hate. Everyone is capable of having prejudices. We are all humans, we all feel these things. I honestly don't know what's so complicated to understand.
As a intelligent human being, you should adapt the norms and value of becoming a sensible, more caring person. It’s easy to hate anyone but hard to restrain yourself from the hatred. Forgiving and loving others is like the core norms and value of all big religion.
@Alpha okay Mr grammar himself
It's more than just hate; It's also fear, anger, ignorance and arrogance. But most of all It's simply prejudice.
@@Rinesmyth Thank you for the additions. The reason I put there just hate it's because I felt that that't the very basic and overall feeling, you know. But yeah, those emotions are deffinetely on the list no doubt. And every race and ethnicity is capable of feeling them.
You can still hate from other races without being racist, like, you hate them because they are an ass and he/she threats you like shit, not because they are asian or hispanic or whatever. Sometimes is not all about races.
If y’all think someone can’t be racist because they aren’t white, I’m a black person who’s experienced racism from ppl in every race, including my own mom being colorist. And also, being racist is not cool we r all humans and no one is better than anyone (unless u compare a pedophile to a doctor) but anyways, don’t be racist 😃 👍🏽
"We are all humans" argument is very flawed and wrong because you have to create exceptions for it. You are not wrong on racism, but I'm only mentioning out how that logic can be mis-leading.
@Durio reece no they aren’t “usually” the harshest lol
@Irishdemon
Many people use it whenever they get caught doing something wrong and when they say it, they expect sympathy from you. It's used by douche-Tubers alot
Yeah. I’m white and I’ve been racially discriminated against… just as probably everyone has it’s just a way of life.. we should just no be racist… completely agree
I’m Hispanic and the girl in the video should be ashamed
"Minorities cant be racist"
(Looks at East Asian relations, Looks at South American relations, Looks at Haiti-Dominican Republic tensions, Looks at Arab-Israeli tensions, Genoc*des in Central Africa from Rwanda to Congo, Yugoslavia Electric Boogaloo)
Well, they are a Minority in your country, but not theirs, American
THIS, THIS THIS THIS! And louder for those in the back! The people deciding what is and isn’t racist are the most blindly privileged people on this planet - they’re so privileged that they prescribe their own America-centric world view on others when the rest of the world is in a different situation. Minority in America ≠ Minority everywhere
@@carrma3831 I’d be lying if I said I am not prejudiced towards second generation American Latinos. It’s like a lot of them want to brandish the Latino title and play the victim when they’re born in one of the best countries in the world and have never had to go through the hellhole that is Latin America. Then again, not like it matters, as long as it keeps our culture alive
@Eat the socialist funny because American Leftist views are so similar to Conservative Confederate Views and to their Enemy "Trump": America First and we decide what is racist or not
@@arcturus4762 so much this. I have a friend in France who worked hard her entire life to get out of Colombia and pursue a scientific career
And then there's… whatever Twitch tried doing during that "latino pride month" where they only celebrated american streamers with hispanic parents and added emotes that only depict Mexican stereotypes.
To be clear, I have nothing against depicting Mexican people always with the colorful big hat and poncho, a big bushy mustache and some maracas-stereotypes exist because there's some truth to them after all. My issue is twitch wanting to pretend that that somehow represents the entirety of South America too
@@nicocchi Don't remind me of the sh*tshow Twitch did for whatever they call "Latino history month"
I don’t understand why some people think people of color can’t be racist. Have they heard of the Rwandan genocide? And colorism is very real throughout Asia and Africa.
Facts in South Africa white people are actively discriminated against.
and throughout the Black diaspora
First off, say black people because Asians, and Hispanics are POC. Also colorism and racism are not the same so don't those confused either, both however are social consturcts which is the only way you could compare beside the fact of the descrimination against the person the racism or colorism is being used on.
The point isn't about understanding other cultures or the reality of the non-american world. It's about proving your point.
And the point is: white -> racist -> bad. Really, it's just that easy
@@stoopid9898
STFU
"... through some Herculean leap in logic that we mere mortals could never hope to comprehend..."
the music drowning her out is the best part
literally 😂
Dude is trying SO hard to listen and keep his cool lmao. Props to him, poor guy
I love how we can’t even hear her reasoning because we already understand why it’s flawed.
I appreciate that this video cuts off her explanation. It really doesn't matter. It's time to stop hearing out stupid people, and disassociate them. Not my force, but kinda like how a parent ignore a kid when they're FOS.
i love how you can’t hear her over the music because there’s no need to. there’s nothing she can say to that question besides ‘yes’ that’s worth hearing lmaoo
One thing! Just one thing! Please tell IT to me: WHY tf do I have so many fans even though no TH-camr is unprettier than I am? WORLDWIDE!!!! WHY??? Tell me, dear ca
That, my friend, is called a closedminded perspective.
@@laika5707It all boils down to, "minorities can't be racist" which is inherently wrong. Imagine if someone said "white people cant be racist." As a white guy I STILL wouldn't give AF to hear their argument and would react exactly as this guy did.
@@Mega-P71We can see that you’re white by your comment.
@@laika5707 I admit I am being close minded, but it's like hearing someone answering 1+1 as 11, it's just not worth listening to
This is going back 37 years
My black friend from Ghana experienced a lot of racism when he was in New York where he was a student at that time.
felt so sorry for him and apologized on behalf of all us white people.
He said “don’t apologize as they were not white but African Americans”. That truly shocked me
I’ve seen a lot of racism from African Americans towards Africans and Carribeans. It’s baffling.
@@Aaron-zt5ee is it? We're all human, and human beings do alot of dumb stuff.
youre kinda the racist one for assuming it was white people
@@DinomotoMennoviit’s baffling cause everyone acts like only white people r racist and that’s it so when u c racism from everyone else literally everywhere, it kinda makes u wonder why we only hear about it as a white issue
Yeah I'm African-American and I grew up hearing some bigoted things being said about African blacks and Caribbean blacks by other AA people. Not all AA people, but a vocal minority hold this type of prejudice and they used to call them names or just laugh at them for not being AA. Any group can have racial ignorance and prejudice is not exclusive to any one group. I have been on the receiving end of racial prejudice from people of all colors, I don't automatically expect it from any group in particular it's more about the individual and their ignorance
There is no difference between racism, “reverse” racism or prejudice….. shame on all of them
The sociological definition of racism, like the term minority, is dependent upon power. In South Africa there are less white people than black people but black people are considered the minority because of having less power within that society; i.e. white people being able to institute an apartheid despite their smaller numbers in South Africa. Racism is racial bias enacted on minorities from the majority. Race based biases enacted on the majority from someone in a minority is prejudice.
The public has warped the term racism similarly to what people are doing now with the word sociopath. There is no diagnosis of sociopathy and often times, but not exclusively, what people would refer to as sociopathic behavior would fall under Antisocial Personality Disorder.
@@wolfgangamadeus6118 "Racism is the belief that groups of humans possess different behavioral traits corresponding to physical appearance and can be divided based on the superiority of one race over another. It may also mean prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against other people because they are of a different race or ethnicity"-wikipedia. racism isn't only from instetutions and south africa is not the only example of racism
@@therealgeneralMacArthur I should have given links to information that would further elaborate on my point; so, I'm sorry for not adding more clarity from my perspective. Here are some links that are much more informative and apt at explain how power transitions racial prejudice to racism (which is inherently tied to social implications of this bias being enacted on those with lesser amounts of power i.e. minorities.)
projects.iq.harvard.edu/files/deib-explorer/files/sociology_of_racism.pdf
www.yorku.ca/lfoster/2006-07/sosi4440b/lectures/Racism.html
(This will open a word document) www.vanderbilt.edu/oacs/wp-content/uploads/sites/140/Understanding-Privilege-and-Oppression-Handout.doc
My point on South Africa wasn't that it's the only place experiencing racism, it was that laymen's definitions of words (of which are often found on Wikipedia) are not always very accurate and often lack the nuance that the most complete definition has; e.g. many people think minority just means whichever group is smaller in number but white people in South Africa are smaller in number (but large in power which is what makes a group the majority group) than black people.
Let me know if there are any more links you’d want me to send your way or if you have anything that you’d want me to see; I’m always open to something new and challenging my beliefs.
People don't hate race, they hate culture. Race is just a convenient visible representation of a given culture.
You can see the sheer soul-crushing frustration on his face when he realizes she *still* doesn't get it.
Don’t worry guys she’s not racist she’s just “prejudice”
The sociological definition of racism, like the term minority, is dependent upon power. In South Africa there are less white people than black people but black people are considered the minority because of having less power within that society; i.e. white people being able to institute an apartheid despite their smaller numbers in South Africa. Racism is racial bias enacted on minorities from the majority. Race based biases enacted on the majority from someone in a minority is prejudice.
The public has warped the term racism similarly to what people are doing now with the word sociopath. There is no diagnosis of sociopathy and often times, but not exclusively, what people would refer to as sociopathic behavior would fall under Antisocial Personality Disorder. People who aren't knowledgeable about a field disseminating incorrect/inaccurate information is what many times makes the idea of common knowledge a misnomer.
@@wolfgangamadeus6118 i don't know what the hell you are on about but NO races should shit on eachother just because of their race. It's racism no matter what. I hope you are just repeating this message.
@bruh bruh Yeeeeaaaah tru. A lot of politics is pretty technical and there is a lot that goes into it which is why I think 50 second videos like this about these topics are pretty reductive/misinform people.
No need to use hard explanation like scholar though
....Just make it simple....
Hate towards other race= racism...Is it so hard to explain....
@@wolfgangamadeus6118
Me > googles racism.
Results > prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.
Key word is "typically", just because minorities are typically racialized by the majority does not mean they cannot be racist themselves.
People are individuals, not just conglomerates of power, that's literally the rational the Nazis used to oppress Jewish people despite being the majority.
“Hispanics are just spicy Asians” - a random comment I remember seeing
Asians are noodle Hispanics
Hispanic isn't even a race...
Spicy Asians? I wouldn’t that be south and southeast Asians? If anything, “Spicy whites” would make more sense since Latin American countries were established by people from the Iberian peninsula WHICH IS IN EUROPE.
It's okay guys, she has an asian friend
She's not racist. She just pulled out UNO reverse card for herself.
If people want equality they need to stop the double standards.
They dont want equality they want equity.
@@wowulam7411 they don't even want equity anymore nowadays. They want advantage. Neverending advantage
It will never stop, it never has and never will
Exactly. People either encourage change or encourage the cycle
@@wowulam7411 they want revenge.
Can't believe there are people calling him racist when he's talking to a kid.
It’s both funny and sad how the stop Asian hate movement went away so quickly as soon as people realized the group that was really committing hate crimes against them.
I usually hate “curb your” videos but this one struck a chord.
I love when he said something had been occurring for “millennia” and she says, ‘it’s been occurring for centuries!’
Hahahaha. Oh man its so rich when people just plop out words they obviously dont understand
We don't know who this girl is and she DOES NOT speak for us
- Logical black people
I thought he was gonna slip up, then a new player entered the game 😂
Minorities being racist against minorities is sadly waaaay too common...
I think the reason why we as minorities tend to ignore racist minorities is because we feel like acknowledging it devalues our opinion when we speak against racist behavior...
In my opinion, you should just treat every person based on their personality and actions rather than the color of their skin, just because a person is white doesn't automatically makes them racist or something...
The irony is the minority A complain about being opressed by B majority...
But when there's a minority C the minority A becomes the majority and opress and try to silence the minority C
It is kind of:
Minority C < Minority A < Minority B
The irony becomes sad haha
@@oxines6979 yeah, most people only cares about representing/defending their own group, be it race, religion or sexual orientation. That's why when there's an offense against a group to which they don't belong they tend to ignore it. I'd say that anyone has the right to do that (only care about their group) but we should all strive to really try to address any injustice against a community or group even if we aren't part of that group.
@@Someone-wr4ms indeed buddy! All my life i was taught that it's wrong to judge a person based on skin color and that skin color is nothing...
All my life i believed that... It was a shock of reality when i saw that they were justifying this... It was a shock reality when i saw that happening...
To be honest i never cared about skin color... Until now... I entered in the america community because i was learning english and guess what ? I am no longer seeing people with a dark skin with the same eyes as before... These things are so ignorant because their mwthods made others raciat and then complain about "racism" one example it's this: "if my methods doesn't work it's your fault!"
It is interesting that in 21 we are being a witness of this... Seeing history repeating itself... It is interesting, why the history repeats itself ? I believe now that the reason is justification...
It was really a shock of reality seeing this, pretty ironic... But well, i must ignore all this sadly because i can not change it ... It just makes me more depressed , prejudiced, hateful and etc... Since the day that i discovered this i could not even focus on my life LoL... I spent all day debating here on the internet... But it seems that they changed the definition of racism(what is a FUCKIN mistake and a contradiction... According tp them racial discrimination is not racism...but when a white man do it is racism... Because they have the power... The shit is hilarious because they do not judge you by you individuality but by the group you belong... It means that: even if you are homeless and poor... You can't be racist to a rich black man because you belong in a powerful "group"... The shit is hilarious because there's always something to justify their actions and it's even a contradiction... When they scream: "we want racism to end" according to their own logoc they are only fighting against the system and not the individual level... In any words: they are nkt fighting for what is fair, but to benefit them!.
It is also a contradiction because they hate when a action of a person has different consequences than a white man because they belong in another... But in the same time: your actions receive different consequences because you bwlong in an other group... It is also a double standard and hypocritical because they hate it but they do it anyway what is hilarious!
I can't debate with this... The environment is very toxic... I am gonna follow the methods of morgan freeman .. If they have a problem with him screw them... Their methods only made it worse and proved that they aren't fighting for other groups but only to benefit themselves...
It doesn't matter, in anyways we will have minority and majority...
The only way that could solve this is segregation(what i am against it because i believe that we as a human we need to learn to live to what is different... How can we involve to another civilization and maybe live with another civilization ?) because to them majority has the power therefore they are the oppressor(i am having a feeling of that ideology where: if you are poor it's because you are opressed and the rich is the oppressor...) it doesn't solve anything, it just blames the majority... Research suggest that in 2044 "white" will become a minority... Thefore they can not be racist and are opressed... But the problem is: are they gonna follow the same logic or are they going to change them ?
In both scenario we do not win... The majority will always be guilty of anything... The only way that could solve this is segregation where they have their own power(what i do not agree because as i said: this is stupid and we need to involve as a thinking being...)
They may be starting a segregation and they have no ideia LOL
@@oxines6979 I do want to point out though, that a lot of white nationalist are taking handpicked examples of cases where minorities are being racist to undermine or excuse their own hateful opinions, and I don't agree with that either.
Also the thing you mentioned about white people becoming a minority is called "the great replacement" and it has been proven wrong multiple times from other studies and there are some really good youtube videos debunking this theory.
other than that, yeah man, i think its really stupid to blame an entire race for what's essencially a pretty global isssue... you could even argue that every single conflict between two nations could constitute as racism and, i mean, as far im aware, every single country arround the world has had at the very least one conflict with another at least once right?
@@Someone-wr4ms yeah, i agree with you... There are also people using this to justify their hates toward innocent people...
I can say it's a vicious cycle... None of it is right...