2016 Buff Bagwell talks WWF/WCW and More
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I wish WCW was still around. Man the late 90s was the best for wrestling. I was and still am all about WCW
@gannon deshong love late 90's too! got ton old ecw wcw ppv tapes from 90's also play my old ecw wcw videogames for my ps2. also bought rise and fall wcw dvd also very best wcw Monday nitro 3 disc set fye summer 2011. buff is on very best of wcw Monday nitro 3 disc dvd set.
Same here WCW was the best.
LOVVVVVVED Nitro
It was good until guys like nash and Russo got their hands on the book.
80s were better
Here's the real problem: Vince McMahon didn't create Buff.
Gene Bone FACTS HE WAS A FLUNKY..
The real problem is he didnt want to fuck Vince. Just ask about Jim Helwig, Vince and a bearskin rug!
Buff is a shitty gimmick anyway better than The Genius though.
you may be right
Buff wasn't Vince's stuff.
Buff was and is still better than half the roster in the WWE now. Vince just refuses to put over most WCW guys
Lol no. Vince nueters the talents creative juices. Seth Rollins, Dean Ambrose, Randy Orton, all way better than Buff. I can go on and on
Seriously? Buff Bagwell was mediocre in the ring at best.
YES, IT WAS MORE THAN OBVIOUS
Cmon bro.. That's a stretch... A lot of fun to watch.. A good worker...cuts great promos...but this is a fucking reach lol
😂 Buff was garbage. Also his hat is stupid and he's annoying af for talking in 3rd person. The end.
I feel bad for Bagwell he seems so nice and down to earth for WWE to not give him a chance. Bagwell was so much better than Tyler Breeze and Fandango.
But he was A HORRIBLE WRESTLER! HE WAS NEVER A MAIN EVENTER! MORE LIKE A FIRST OR SECOND MATCH AT BEST! HE SUCKED! THE ONLY WAY HE WAS CLOSE TO A MAIN EVENTER WAS IF HE WAS ESCORTING SCOTT STEINER!!! HE SUCKED!!!!!
@@amccar27 not all about in ring work. He would be top star with the guys around now. 90s roster very true mid card talent with potential to grow too had so much charisma and personality and had a crowd reaction too. Buff was a misused talent.
@@amccar27 he was not a horrible wrestler. maybe he wasn't going to be main eventing wrestlemania, but so what? plenty of wrestlers haven't main evented and have been around for ever. until recently kofi kingston has been in the WWE for 15 years. heath slater hasn't main evented a house show and he is still around.
YOUR COMMENT SUCKS!!!!
Without legit competition breathing down his neck Vince doesn't know what to do anymore. Everything about the WWE is awful from top to bottom minus the talent. He has legit talent, he just doesn't know what to do with it.
@@amccar27 Still better than wwe's roster...
I have met Buff Bagwell and got to wear his hat
Buff daddy
Mark
thats how you get rona
@wokzilla I remember your name. You're the guy who uploaded the "Taco Bell Sells Crack" video. Very random to see you here. I miss that video. It's a shame it's not still up. That was funny as hell.
Buffs story hasn’t changed s but in all these years and that’s one big reason I do believe this happened just the way he tells it
And that's the reason I don't believe him. 🤣.
Changing up a lie is overrated...he does sound genuine
Theres Buff side, Theres Jim Ross side... And in the middle is the Truth
The mid to late 90s was such an awesome time to be a Wrestling fan. The Monday night Wars will never be bettered. Buff was great in WCW, looked amazing, great name, gimmick, a decent worker with a good finisher. It's a damn shame he broke his neck, took away all his momentum. Vince totally messed up The Invasion angle, it could have been the greatest angle of all time, Damn shame!
It literally could've been him vs. Angle
With his voice tone, he sounds like Steve-o...A JACKED Steve-o
"..and they HAD A FUCKING ANSWER for that too!" LOL !
This whole shoot had me dying in laughter from beginning to end
I always liked Buff. He had a great physique and face. It's a shame it didn't work out.
Yea very likeable guy. Had the look and everything
I dont
@@makubegysman6160 i loved to hate this guy. Matches were completely boring as well as his entire persona. No wrestling talent either
He wasn’t a good worker though.
WCW had so many personalities back in the 90s... the roster was stacked
And they were paid well
I agree with Buff Bagwell. And I feel like he would've been awesome as even an Intercontinental Champion after the invasion angle was over.
Buff was a huge star in WCW could have been huge in WWF.
@liukangstoupee sorry but no one except john cena in wwe has drawn a dine since attitude era....#facts
WWE was STILL JEALOUS OF WCW/nWo
@@michaelmacdonald880 Not even close to being true. But okay.
@liukangstoupee Speaking of not drawing dimes...
Truth is, Bagwell was more of a midcarder
DDP seemed a little out of place in WWE to me but I thought Buff would've fit right in. I also wish WWE would've given Mike Awesome an opportunity I thought he had real potential and his in ring work was awesome.
For Me Mike Awesome was Awesome LOL I really liked his 1st run in WCW The Career Killer. I hated when he became the 70's guys that gimmick was ok but it should have been for someone else not him then when he joined Team Canada I thought ok now their doing something right with him but WWE got WCW then it went down hill for him after that.
I'll never forget some of those matches Mike had in ECW. He had strength, athleticism, balance and that was the first time I had ever seen a guy that big doing springboard plancha's.
I know what you mean for me ECW is not in my Top 3 but I respect and will give them respect for what they have done for Wrestling for me the main reason why I watched ECW was for guys like RVD/Dreamer/Awesome/Storm/Raven/Saturn and a few others so to see Raven/Storm/Awesome/Saturn come to WCW was amazing. I feel out of all the 4 Lance Storm did the best then would be Raven the Saturn and finally Mike Awesome.
If I could be serious for a minute......lol Lance was really good I watched ECW for all those guys you mentioned plus other's like the Dudley's, Sabu, Taz, Jerry Lynn, Kid Kash they had a really good roster. ECW is also the first place I saw Benoit, Malenko, Guerrero.
I know what you mean I forgot about Lynn I was a fan of his too the Dudley's wear awesome I still feel they did really good in WWE Rhino was another along with Steven Corino Sabu wasn't bad either I met him but he wasn't that friendly that day LOL. I met Sabu/Rhino/Tommy Dreamer/Axel/Balls/Steve Corino/Tazz this was like if I remember right a month or 2 after he made his Debut in WWE he did an autograph signing I still have the picture of meeting him I got a signed picture plus he signed his WWE shirt at the time I did sell the shirt and picture years later tho LOL but at least I still have the picture of me and Tazz I should post it on Facebook one day.I will also never forget the last time Nitro was at the Nassau Coliseum as me and my friend wear walking in the hall way to go to are seats right in front of us was Midajah and Mike Awesome each talking to an Agent I remember screaming Mike he looked and waved plus I got to touch Midajah which for me at the Time was like Heaven because I was in love with her I also met Sandman/Raven and a few others.
WCW FOR LIFE. Vince crushed a lot of people that came from WCW cuz he hated it. But what Vince forgets is 90% of the wrestlers came from WCW before he bought them out.
Much love to Buff
Buff is awesome
wrestlingrocks1988 buff sucks
I would love to have seen Buff wrestle some of the WWE guys back when it was WWF during the Invasion.
I think they would’ve just buried him though (like they did with DDP)
Buff Bagwell goes off at 12:50 and rightfully so, JR is lying at the very least about not burying Buff because he did it on the Legends of Wrestling round-table on WWE 24/7. JR may be well liked, but doesn't mean he wasn't a piece of shit to someone.
JR also said it on Raw.
He said it. I was a fan at the time.
He’d whip buffs ass Jim is tougher than a 2$ Waffle House steak buffs mommy called like a bitch she is crying that buff got beat up in training and Jim fired his ass told him go to the indies and rassle for peanuts
@@hotelalphawhiskeykilogrunt7925 lol. Buff is a bitch. And a baby. Jim indeed said what he claims. But... Who cares? Haha. Everyone believes it happened because of the huge deal buff made out of it
@@hotelalphawhiskeykilogrunt7925 Buff would kill JR's fat ass in a fight LOL
Thank you for uploading and sharing, one of my favorite wrestlers
Bagwell vs Benoit would've been a great WWF feud
Benoit would have destroyed Bagwell.
He's a nice southern cat...... best of luck in his future endeavors
I was there in the stadium on April 9th 1994 in St maarten. That's where I'm from. You guys had a match with the nasty boys
Poor Marcus Alexander Bagwell is the only well known WCW mid carder to not have given fair and enough opportunity in WWF/WWE. They Screwed Him Up.
For real though, Buff seems like a good fucking dude.
Some guys were still contracted to WCW well into 2003. Goldberg, Stevie Ray, Vampiro and Shawn Stasiak (who took a buyout instead of getting paid to do nothing ) being four of them. Flair was another one who had a guaranteed contract until 2003 but he took a buyout and feuded with Vince instead. Goldberg made $6 million sitting on his ass for two years the lucky sob.
Yeah.
@Vic Crown I think Flair would of been 52 when he came back in 2001.
Shawn Stasiak was in the wwe during the invasion angle. You made a mistake there
And Ric Flair Came In The Night After The Invasion Angle. What If Ric Flair Was There During The Invasion. Ric Flair & DDP As WCW Top Stars. That's Like Mick Foley & Pat Patterson Or Gerald Brisco As WWE Top Stars During The Invasion If WCW Won The Monday Night Wars. And If WCW Had All Their Top Stars, All Maybe Except Roddy Piper & Bret Hart Or Even Randy Savage. Picture Mick Foley & Pat Patterson Taking On Guys In Matches Like Hulk Hogan, Sting, Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Goldberg, Lex Luger & Sid Vicious. If Ric Flair & DDP Had To Take On In Matches, Steve Austin, The Rock, The Undertaker, Kane, HHH & The Big Show. A One-sided & Lop-sided Angle.
Well to work he would of made significantly less money so he just chose to sit it out wise decision
Buff was too WCW
Actual pro wrestling.
Got to interview Buff a couple years ago. SUPER nice guy, so cool and personable. He doesn't remember me but I'll ALWAYS remember how nice and cool he was.
I actually remember seeing that interview 👍. He talked about eating grilled chicken only from McDonald's. That stuck out to me lol.
J.J. Sinnz cool story
@JAGO Tech lol ikr!! It makes sense though. I do that nowadays to try and not gain weight it works
Great Interview, I’ve always been indifferent to Buff as a person but always thought he had great ring skills but after this interview I definitely respect him more as a person. Some of his choices (like em or not) make a lot of sense now and honestly no one can judge how someone makes a living as long as they aren’t hurting anyone. In my humble opinion he sounds truthful in most of what he’s saying.
so buff was making $360 thousand in wcw dang that's phenomenal money
@jose Aguilera he was in wcw when wcw was beating then wwf in tv ratings pro wrestling had it last boom. buff was household name as don tony said 2015 podcast buff had great career in wcw. does independent bookings atm saw him wrestle samoa joe when joe was in tna turner hall bingo hall 250 people w.73th street Cleveland all pro promotion Cleveland, ohio in 2005. he sign autograph for me ton of people nice guy. also wrestle ethan paige aiw 2016 in church Cleveland, ohio two yrs ago still good shape.
Jose Aguilera pretty sure he said $750k per year.
I thought he said 750000 ?? Lol
Yeah he said 750k. He had wcw paying him almost a million a year.
Too much money for someone who couldnt wrestle
WCW has such good production too. WwF seemed more official but WCW seemed more “fun”. A mix of backyard feel with professionalism
1. Buff should've jumped ship when he was courted by Vince 6 months prior.
2. Saying you saved Vince 80 grand is like telling the dude you borrowed money from, "you know what bro, just go ahead and send me 5 instead of 10 that way I save you 5 bucks" when you owe him 20 already.
3. It's 100 percent true that his mom called.
Mr. Black agreed. There were red flags WCW was going south before then
Can you explain your thought process in 2. Vince had to make good on the contracts he bought when we bought WCW so bagel signing on and not holding him to that would be saving him 80K.
@@bigbrycm6 Yeah I've always found the last two years of WCW to be one of the most interesting periods in modern wrestling was quite a time indeed.
Holy shit! I remember seeing that 10 minute draw between Marcus Alexander Bagwell and 'Stunning' Steve Austin. Cool to hear him mention it.
Buff the stuff... one of wcws best in my opinion... next to booker t.. life long wwe. Or Wwf fan .. but they missed out not keeping buff imagine the history he coulda made
Buff was insanely entertaining. Thank you for everything, you always had the stuff!
$5000 a month rent, DAMN. That’s 20 years ago too.
For the first time in my life I am watching and enjoying WCW programs - Buff and Scott Steiner are two of my favorites. Scotts dance is the BEST
*WCW 1990's changed wrestling forever and was also the last of the good days before it all died*
WWE screwed WCW. Period.
WWE screwed WCW talent when they came in. WCW screwed WCW the business.
George Scroggins Wcw was bought for the very fact they were in shambles and lame
@@hiphopguru81 Don't want to get into a big fight but you need to do more research because its been proven that it was doing very well at the end.WWE is on life support with the ratings they been getting WCW never even hit that low like WWE. If your listening to morons like Dave Meltzers then stop because hes been proven to be a fraud. So many people have put him in his place about WCW and everything else that hes been wrong about. One more thing Vince owns WWE WCW was owned by a company that hated wrestling and felt people who watched it are morons. Those losers are gone that's why AEW is on there which gets horrible ratings it self.In a nut shell you buy WCW your fucking done wrestling is dead ok its dead.
Zenk things doing well dont get sold.
@@hiphopguru81 Yea Ok I just told you they didnt' want wrestling try again do some research they wear gettings 3 WWE is getting less then 1.
I had a chance to meet Marcus a few years ago in Gloversville NY. He is a really nice guy. Very knowledgeable.
@moore 2 music I met him 13 yrs ago vs wrestler samoa joe independent show Cleveland all pro promotion turner hall bingo hall in 2005 Cleveland, ohio. he sign an autograph for me 20 other people really nice guy. also saw him wrestle ethan paige aiw church w70th street Cleveland, ohio.
as don tony said in 2015 on his podcast buff bagwell had great career in wcw. former 4 time wcw tag team champion with scropio, riggs, patriot, and francise shane douglas also member nwo. saw him wrestle samoa joe when joe was in tna independent show turner hall bingo hall in Cleveland, ohio Cleveland all pro in 2005. also aiw ethan paige in 2016. still good shape.
Buff will always be the Stuff!
Does anyone else remember when he was Marcus Bagwell in WCW with the red white and blue pants? He always struggled to win and often lost much like his tag team partner Scotty Riggs, the Armstrong tag team, Alex Wright, Hardwork Bobby Walker, the Public Enemy tag team, Johnny B. Badd, and Hacksaw Jim Duggan? They were always incapacitated by a "face pull" sort of move where they eyes seem to be temporarily damaged, every time they did an elbow/collar tie up in the middle of the match against the heel, where the heel would then work them over.
Vince would never put wcw over
Gannon DeShong - booker t? What nonsense are you spewing.
@joeph Martinez yeah booker t, rey jr, torrie Wilson and stacy keibler had decent careers in wwf/E stacy as manager valet for wwf tag champs Dudley boyz test and stenier, also world tag champs hurricane and rosey. also chuck palumbo had decent career in wwe with billy gunn as billy and chuck two time wwe tag champion member fbi. billy kidman had decent career tag team champion cruiserweight champion beating Jamie noble 02 survivor series. he is producer also was trainer down in nxt.
It's too bad but they did try to put him out of business.According to some they almost succeeded.Vince should have took WCW and ECW and combined them together and make another wrestling promotion like NXT . I think it would have done well.May even still be around.
It cost Vince a lot of money in the end. He could have made another fortune off the invasion angle had he wanted it to work. But nooooo, he had to bury DDP in that stupid stalker angle and fire Buff. He could have bought out the AOL/Time Warner contracts of the big name guys like Goldberg, Sting, Steiner, Luger etc and put on the fantasy matches we had all wanted to see for the previous decade. He would have made back the cost of those contracts plus a ton more! 20 years later and I still feel cheated!!!
Why didn't TNA ever sign Buff Bagwell? He was over with the fans in WCW, had great mic skills, could wrestle and looked great. And when WWE fired him he was still pretty young probably not even 30 yet. The demise of Buff Bagwells pro wrestling career is one of the most puzzling I've ever seen. It's so sad. And it's sad to see him still so bitter especially at good ole JR. But I can't blame him. WWE royally screwed up on not making this guy a star and their company making only a quarter million dollars a year down from the three-quarters of a million dollars a year he was making in WCW. WWE also screwed up Scott Steiner's run in the early 2000s when he should have been champion and the top heel.
I've always thought the same he could have really good run in TNA especially in the very early years when they were looking and needing star power.
Jim Ross try to act like he's all innocent and a victim it's like please man up and tell the world what you did.
JR I mean honestly he does shit for money, his start in the WWF was like being fired 2 times and come back, fired several times and come back all his career, why?
He wanted the money, sure he loves the business but he knows the only place tat would pay him the most was WWE thats why he keeps going back.
If I were treated the way JR was treated I wouldnt give a fuck about that money, he was good enough to get huge amounts in Japan for decades if he wanted doing english play by play
He's a pathetic man. Karma got him for his lies. His own boss made him his bitch and not to mention his face. Buff you are a legend and deserve to be in the WWE Hall of Fame as a member of nWo.
@@thechefmike clearly he does anything for money. I mean he kissed vinces ass
Palsy face deserves every thing he has been given lol
@@thechefmike He is all about the money, J.R. If you ever listen to his podcasts its something he always brings up at times. Cant really blame him but he is all about the dollar.
That really sucks, because he was one of my favorites. When he and Scotty would come out...fantastic television
I watched more WWF at the time but I did watch WCW late 90s/early 2000s. And my favorite was Steiner with Buff Bagwell. It was the highlight of the show those years
If anyone listening to this cannot tell how genuine and sincere Buff is being then they're out of their mind. It reeks of sincerity. I love how the rumour about his mother still persists to this day, it's utter nonsense 🤣 yet the WWF fans love to bring it up.
Lmfao probably bc the fucking head of talent relations, who would have had to take any call about talent not being there, was the one who started the story being told.
Buff is almost never sincere bc he rarely knows what planet he's on.
Unless his mother for some bizarre reason called up behind his back to try and interfere with his career and get him out of the WWF, then it's obviously a made up story. Why in earth would he at that stage just when there's only one big company left & its the trying to get ahead in a very competitive place when your new there. Get his mother to call up instead of doing it himself.
I think because he was kinda associated with her quite recently at that time with the Judy Bagwell in a forklift match stuff. The idea stemed from that
But as he says even if she did call why would what be a firing offence.
It's not fair what happened to him. Nobody is owed success but he has a right to feel a little hard done by. Wish this was the full interview.
Always loved buff … hope he’s doing well ❤️
Buff is a top 20 GOAT
Buff is a great talent and good guy to his fans.
great interview
I think Vince missed out on this one
Did he ever! He SUPER missed out......
@Jay Reisnek to me he was great with Steiner and I think if there were at least have brought him back when they brought back the NWO would have been something special I could tell your wrestling fan what do you think about that
@Jay Reisnek you suck jay
@Jay Reisnek Your man wishes you were a real man.
lol Buff is still wearing the same hat since 98'
didn't somebody fuck that one up or shit in it or something in WWE, JBL springs to mind possibly.
Thats a cool hat...coolest hat ever maybe...
@83rdox didnt have a real gimmick? Your not to bright huh?
Those hats are expensive
id just like to say, in the peak of wcw/wwf wrestling; Buff Bagwell, was a star. WAY BIGGER THAN SCOTT to us fans.
Scot had some arms. No charisma at all. Buff had it all.
I loved his character.
Salute Buff, I hope to see you more on diamond dallas's show /podcast. That'd be dope.
#respect #salute
Buff is definitely the stuff
its sad that he couldve just sat at home, with ALL THE MONEY for the remainder of his contract but instead wanted to work and did when called and took a cut AND got fired
I wouldve taken the money like Sting, he did ery well never going there till the very end, he was right every WCW guy was going to get fucked for the simple fact they happened to collect a paycheck and do a job like everyone else, its fucked
He had a few months on his wcw contract remaining.. And wanted to prove his worth
There was only two months left on his deal (about $60,000 as he stated) and he forfeited that money to sign with Vince. As Buff mentioned, he had no leverage and he couldn't get a buyout from Turner as there was so little time left on his deal. Booker and DDP did the same thing except they took early buyouts from Turner to free themselves to sign with WWE as they both still had a lot of time left on their Turner deals. Some of the guys just sat back and collected all of their money and let the Turner contract run out before looking elsewhere for work.
They tricked him so he didn't get that money. they tried doing it to Luger and Steiner but they knew because they worked for Vince before
Vrutnnkk my
According to Sting there was another reason for him not signing with WWE. I remember seeing an interview with Sting where he said he watched the episode when the invasion angle first kicked off. Wrestlers from WCW and WWE got in the ring and fought it out. Left in the ring at the end was just The Rock and Booker T. Sting said he could see The Rock say "Who are you?" to Booker T which Sting found incredibly disrespectful. Sting said The Rock legitimately had no idea who an icon like Booker T was. That was something that bothered Sting and made him want nothing to do with the WWE. Like you wrote, he knew Vince was going to bone all the WCW guys which he promptly did.
“$175,000, can you do a little better Vince?”
“Alright $225,000-$250,000 counting insentives, cool”
“Vince you don’t have to pay me last two months of my old deal, which is 60-80,000”
250,000 - 80,000 = $170,000
Great job Buff.
I seriously thought these people earned millions.
Rikster 85 plenty of guys did. WWF offering buff $175,000 is basically a minimum wage contract in 2001.
He was trying to be a good dude and buy brownie points by not causing a headache but WWE still screwed him.
🤣🤣🤣
@@fredspofford Yeah Buff should have looked out for himself better and took the money.
Buff should have been huge, period.
Lol maaannnn, this guy and the 3rd person references!!! Cracked the Mat(me) up lol🤣
Buff and Luger were the guys that were in my life as a kid that made my day better. Seriously, the talent that was in the WWF at that time or even now are not better the Buff or Luger. I will be honest that Buff would have had a good spot in WWF along with taking others spot light.
Luger killed Elizabeth
@@Alldayaj67 No he did not
@@Alldayaj67 It is like you sitting on your ass playing games all day while your mother or significant other is doing all the work killing themselves. We all have a choice and we must live with it.
@@21nitro21 think what you want
@@Alldayaj67 I am loyal to the man that worked hard his whole life to be The Total Package. Sorry that she is gone they were both lost. You can blame Vince for taking WCW away from us. He took Sean O'Haire from us too if you look at it like this too.
Im reading some comments and i must. Chime in. There are dozens of wrestlers who were shit in the ring that made great money. Buff was decent In the ring. Had a good finisher with a.great name. After the American males the buff bagwell gimmick worked. And he was over. He didn't get didn't a push so we could see how high his ceiling was. Buff would addded star power to the invasion angle. Instead we had guys from wwf that had been there for years waffling between the brands. It was lame
It’s so shitty a guy like Buff couldn’t catch a break in WWE. It’s really sad to see how much that effected his life.
As much as I believe Buff was his own worst enemy I do think his release by WWE has haunted him to this day
Kinda feel the same about Gilberti (Disco Inferno)... he may have been the joke ''jobber'' for WCW but he held titles, he could wrestle, entertain, and I just knew there was no way they'd put him in front of a WWF crowd... I saw Gilberti wrestling on TNA a few years later (2003'sh) in a tag match vs ICP and lost... pathetic way to go out. Dude gave his life to the industry and still kinda does.
@@jayRbee Disco Inferno could wrestle! Vince purposely buried WCW wrestlers! He wanted to watch it burn after buying it! He never had any intention on doing anything for them
they should have absolutely used buff bagwell, he was one of he stars I wished we had in wwf during the Monday night wars. I was always a wwe loyalist, and I was jealous of some of the stars wcw had, bagwell included. They should use him still today, hire him Vince!!!!
Do any of these guys have a game plan once their career is over? A lot have had big problems after wrestling
He's right about Booker. WWE needed and wanted more Black athletes and Booker was the best around and fitted what they wanted to a tee. He was always going to have a shot up there.
I think he had a much more humble attitude than Buff though. He was always going to be successful
@@SRPC21 dude, Vince took back guys who had held him up before. Vince took back guys who took their ball and walked out on him. Vince took back guys who buried him/WWE in shoots. Vince took back guys who got in fights with staff. Vince took back writers from Brooklyn. Vince took back staff who were supposedly drunk on duty. Vince took back wrestlers who he'd fucked over and who had publically blamed him for KILLING HIS FUCKING BROTHER. But not Buff Bagwell? He got no second chance? What?
When you look at the spectrum of people who left the company under insanely acrimonious conditions, who then returned weeks, months, occasionally a year or so later, versus what Bagwell is accused to have done it's hard to view it as anything except just common blackballing.
His "attitude" couldn't have been so bad it justified a 15-year (now 20) blackballing from the company. Beginning to think Buff was fired for rejecting a pass by Pat Patterson.
@@maxdecphoenix It was a really bad time to be a wrestler though; The WWE was the only company and it had a jam packed roster of the very best of wcw, ecw and their own talent.
Buff was given his marching orders and he was never needed to come back because there were more than enough stars (Lance Storm was jobbing for god's sake!)
Had it been a different period and had Buff been someone who had worked for Vince for some time I'm sure he would have been given another chance.
@@SRPC21 Sorry no, the roster was not 'jam packed'. WWE only acquired 12 wrestlers from the WCW buyout. That's it. Twelve. From that whole roster. And only 3 of those were 'established names' with a decent singles run: DDP, Booker, Bagwell. Of the remaining 9, the most popular/senior was Hugh Morris. All the other guys got released, shitcanned (like Jeff Jarret), or didn't accept buy-outs.
This was not 'the very best', in fact the WWE barely got any of the wrestlers who made WCW WCW. And wouldn't for another 3 years.
@@SRPC21 you're also not being consistent in your argument. Your intial claim was essentially that buff got shitcanned because he was difficult to work with, after my comment you've now switched to 'he may not have been difficult, but it was just a loaded bench.'
I know Buff had/has his issues, but i think he was on the right side of this conflict with WWE. He seems to be genuinely telling it as it happened.
I hope he has enjoyed watching Vince's Karma returning.
This man lived it. Ate it. Sweat it. Bled it.
It's been his life.
Sad turn of events.
I love Buff Bagwell he belittled Jim
I can tell Buff was going to be loyal to the WWE or WWF ar the time. They screwed Buff.
wcw spoiled a lot of talent. you got guys making a shit ton of money for half ass work. when they got to wwe where they wasn't splashing that kind of money and being more demanding they were already used to the spoilt lifestyle at wcw. same thing happened with hall. wcw was throwing cash to wrestlers for terrible finishes and too many unnecessary backstage segments
Lol, old comment but I love your name and photo. I love seeing fans who also swim in the piss waters of Lake Cresva. Order 66!
Sickening
Order 66
Reminds me of JR on the self destruction of the ultimate warrior video. You rarely get to a position of power like that without burying your personal integrity in favor of what your bosses tell you to do on a few key occasions. And then, having to cover for it the rest of your life, to kid yourself.
Buff I trust ya, sorry to hear about it, I hate when people around the workplace are just haters.
I want to hear this God guy's side of the story
the wcw wrestlers got screwed,period.
Vince took pleasure in burying every one of them because of the Monday night wars. Vince is incredibly petty and vindictive.
@Tim Yeah a whoppin two guys out of an entire roster of wrestlers. Vince really took a liking to those WCW guys.
@@slayermill8621 bull. Then explain why Hunter went over against a legend like Sting at WM 31
God bless you always my friend. :)
The round table he's talking about was called "Legends of wrestling" and it used to be on the original "WWE Network" on cable in the late 2000's. It's still on youtube
His voice somewhat reminds me of Jamie Dundee's.
always thought buff was an average wrestler with tons of charisma and decent promo guy. but drew a crowd reaction, still better than Konnan and "the cat" who both suck in my opinion
The Cat was a legit martial artist but lackluster as a wrestler with an even worse gimmick. The only time I think anyone ever liked Konnan was when he was with the Wolfpac, and only because he was a member of the Wolfpac. I saw a recent Konnan interview and boy does that guy have an incredibly inflated view of himself and his run in WCW. He basically claims to be the king of the luchadors and the WCW was a racist organization. The guy is a complete tool box.
@@slayermill8621 I agree that most people could care less for Konnan. He does have a big opinion of himself but he has some right to be. Just for all he did in Mexico. He was big shit there. He was like the Mexican Hogan, but nobody here in the states cared. His gimmick never really got over. If he didn't run with the WolfPack he would never have been over.
He's Buff...And he's the Stuff!!
I believe Buff Bagwell. I feel it was Jim Ross. And I'm a Jim Ross fan. I do remember Jim Ross saying that Buff's mom called him telling him he can't make the upcoming shows. I saw it on the Monday Night Wars DVD.
Say about Buff what you will, he may not have been a Bret Hart or a Shawn Michaels on a technical level, but he was entertaining as hell, and over with the WCW audience. His time with Scott Steiner, both as partners and rivals, resulted in some of the best and most memorable moments of WCW's history, and if WWE had not spent the past 19 years burying WCW these segments would have been just as iconic as DX's antics today. It seems the only facet of WCW that WWE has not tried to bury is the NWO, but only because that was simply too big to bury, so Vince decided to try and profit from it, and revive it several times.
The fact that Vince bought WCW only to run it further into the ground shows you what a spiteful psychopath the man is.
he needed somebody, he was nothing on his own
Buff took the mask off and shot hard on Ross! Lmao Good for you brother
I watched that match when it aired love and rewatched it again. He blew himself in the first 2 minutes.
Buff is the Stuff, only one match with em and it was a damn shame. Disco doesn't feel he was ready for the WWE going on an earlier interview.
Why didn't Buff go to TNA? He made a few appearances but never really had a run there.
Good question very stupid on TNAs part they could have used a lot of the WCW stars they missed the boat on that very dumb on them.
The Time Warner/aol executives where the real Disaster for WCW... they aren't everyday, level headed, blue collar people. They despise the culture of wrestling and all the fans that are part of it and think its a national disgrace, fit only for the low class and the ignorant. The only reason they sold WCW only to Vince was with the condition that the company was to be totally liquidized, which Vince had NO problem doing. There was even a falling out with Shane over this because he thought he was going to be given the permission to run it and thought WCW being out of the picture was going to be bad overall for WWE...which he was right....
Shane is a genius and more down to than any wealthy person I've seen.
WCWFanForever, I noticed u cut out Bagwell's view on Hulk Hogan.
He was a huge star in WCW, is there a reason why u cut that part out?
Hi the reason is because Rf Video still needs to make money off these shoots there was other stuff that I wanted to leave in but the longer they are the more money they are thanks.
I recall the whole thing being that the contracts of the big guys in wcw were through turner-time warner and totally guaranteed. That is why they sat home and didn't show up in wwe for a while.
Jim lost my respect
U realize he was just the messenger for vince mcmahon right? He has his job duties he has to do or he gets fired
at that time Buff was his own worst enemy. The other guys knew when to put up or shut up and Buff just couldn’t get it together then started a fight with helms. I would have fired him to.
That's some pretty slimeball s*** Drive-on buff, hell of an Entertainer and hell of a wrestler
He's Buff, and he's definitely The Stuff
Thing is, Buff is right. If Vince would’ve put Buff & Booker as the main event in Atlanta, WWE would’ve been shit on because ATL was WCW territory and Vince knew it. that’s why he did it the week before.
I was a heel commentator on a radio show about pro wrestling. Buff was always the most requested by the ladies and the ring rats. Buff was a dynamic draw for house shows and tv ratings amongst the ladies/rats. At nearly every WCW promo, the ladies would always ask me about Buff. I was with Buff and Johnny B Bad when Johnny met Sable at the Quincy's Restaurant, Jacksonville Fl. Johnny's exact words to me were, I just met the most beautiful woman in the world. Buff was always cool to hang with.
Buff is awesome.
So....during this meeting w/ Vince, Ace, Ross...why didn't he ask the reason for getting released
Because he was under the impression that he would be brought back he waited two weeks after the 3 months and J.R. said we'll call you if we need you.
if i was marcus i would just swallow my pride and go back to the WWE since they only released him i can see him work backstage as a producer
BUFF WAS SO GOOD MAN. TOP 5 !
man wwe could have done a lot with buff
you'll still kid
Like what
lmfao this shoot interview is so much different from the one he did in 2001 here hes angry and bitter asf,i dont blame him though
Awesome was awesome
I never understood the whole, Bagwell’s mother controversy. It doesn’t make sense that she would call the WWE on behalf of her son - I mean come on. I always found Bagwell to be an entertaining performer and he seemed like he would be a good fit for the WWE. It does seem like he had a lot of enemies in WWE management.