Did The Ford Dealership Technician's Neglect Cause This 3.5L EcoBoost Engine to Fail?

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  • In this video we tear down a 2nd Gen Ford 3.5L EcoBoost engine to determine the point of failure. ‪@ford‬ #fordf150 #f150 #automobile #automotive #fordvehicle #f150ecoboost #raptor
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  • @SurfBandFan
    @SurfBandFan 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +69

    I switched from GM in 1985 to Ford. After 35+ years of Broncos, F150's, super duty's, escapes, edges and rangers, satisfactory no complaint sales and services, The service manager at my Chishire CT Ford dealership promised me a "real Ford tech" ( named Johnny) when I brought my 100k mi. escape 3.0 v6 for a motor reseal because of timing cover leaks. When I got the car home and took a look-see at what I paid $2300 for, I found the valve cover bolts were loose (hand Tight), the oil dipstick was sitting on the cowl, and the front engine mounting bolts lock washers werent even compressed. (Johnny and his torque wrench!) After they re-did the job TWICE they got the leaking oil and coolant down to a spott-drip of oil. Ford quality of both product and service has taken a bad turn. Time to switch from cars I always loved- Why? because great engineering and style has gone to hell. Seems like they are good at doing two things nowadays: oil changes and warranty motor change-outs

    • @2nickles647
      @2nickles647 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      😅😅...a real technician eh?
      Just right out of skool.
      Good thing I work on my own stuff. I cannot complain about it.
      If I screw up, I feel bad about it. I take pride in fixing my own family vehicle for years.
      God bless sir.

    • @SurfBandFan
      @SurfBandFan 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@2nickles647 a gray hair

    • @ohger1
      @ohger1 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Yeah, after 35+ years of history who wouldn't abandon ship with a single problem? I don't even own a Ford but I do 99% -100% of my own repairs, and if I didn't repair my own cars, I'd take it to a well respected independent like Brian here. And whatever you move to, realize that cars are far more needlessly complicated than they were 10 years ago and even late model Toyotas are blowing engines and having transmission failures. Whatever you get, make sure you buy a long warranty with it. Oh, and Cheshire Ford's labor rates are ridiculous. I had them price a 3.5 Edge water pump for my mother in law, it was $1500 more than she had it done for in Wolcott by a local independent (Fran's).

    • @mattvanatti9531
      @mattvanatti9531 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Competence left the stealership technicians long time ago...they have ripped people off for multi millions of dollars and should be out of business and sitting in jail next to our federal government elites

    • @peterpeter5666
      @peterpeter5666 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      as a tech for almost 40 years i can honestly say nobody gives a damm anymore . there are no more GOOD tech left. just part changers and all the young kids now a days dont want to get their hands dirty or dont even know how to read a shop manual anymore. we lost the basic knowledge of simple things and everybody jumps to the high tech repair before even the simplest of things are checked. also doesnt help engineers dont give a damm about the tech or how stupid it is to fix simple things and quality is no longer job1 . its all disposable now. BUY DRIVE send to the scrap yard BUY AGAIN !

  • @thefreedomwarrior
    @thefreedomwarrior วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    I don’t trust dealerships anymore. To my 6th gen Taurus for a water pump replacement at $2600.00. Picked it up and 6 weeks later my motor blew. They said “not our fault, we can replace your motor with a used one for $9000. No more newer cars for me. Still driving my 24 year old excursion and able to fix everything myself. My old 2008 Taurus has 240k miles. I fix everything myself.

  • @ItsMeJbird
    @ItsMeJbird 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    Truck sounded like my cat outside trying to get in the front door.

  • @vonJaerschky
    @vonJaerschky 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

    Damn I hate the internet! What I love is my 2018 F150 with the 3.5EB. But all the scary stuff you see on the internet makes you feel like you're riding a ticking time bomb. I've had my truck since new, and never had an issue. I'm meticulous on the oil changes, no more than 5,000 miles with a top quality synthetic oil. With the price of new trucks, I'm keeping this as long as I can. I'll keep doing the oil changes and taking care of it, and see how it goes. Love this channel.

    • @danielrubio6675
      @danielrubio6675 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Maintenance/ oil changes is KEY with these engines. I also change the oil every 5k

    • @jiggidyjam
      @jiggidyjam 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Well you know where to take it when it does crap the bed

    • @a.s.4914
      @a.s.4914 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      I've owned a few different makes of cars and I think there is some luck involved. Keeping clean oil in her is the best defense but sometimes bad things happen. Anything mechanical can have a failure. Even Toyotas and Hondas can have a problem. I guess it's a numbers thing when too many of your engines are having the same problem, especially early in mileage. Synthetic oil every 5000 or once a year for low mileage retired folk like me. Hopefully we stay lucky! 🤘

    • @jimmieb1773
      @jimmieb1773 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Oil changes every 4,500-5,000 miles on full synthetic. 3,500 max on synthetic blend. Those twin turbos are hard on oil life, lots of heat in those babies.
      Oh also put a catch can on it.

    • @JasPlun
      @JasPlun 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Well what we see on the internet is a small % of failures in the grand scheme of things, but if your the one that gets that failure it really sucks. My last work truck was a Ram 2500 4x4 6.4l Hemi. I was always worried about cam/lifter failure happening which never came. It made it to 200k miles before biting the dust due to a new employee over heating it. I had just moved into my new 2024 Ram 2500 and heard it failed. In our work fleet only 2 had that problem and were from workers not well known for staying on top of maintenance. All you can do is stay on top of the maintenance and try not to abuse them too much. That being said I still research and like to go with brands with the least amount of failures. I have never been a one brand loyalist as I think that is silly. I just go with what I like and can afford at the time of purchase. I have to say I know Rams are not well known for being bullet proof, but they damn sure ride and handle very well and always even with the work trucks have a banging sound system. I believe our company will be switching to Ford or GM next fleet purchase because we are not sure how well the Hurricane inline six will hold up in the oil field.

  • @JasPlun
    @JasPlun 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    Very expensive failure I feel for the guy that owns this truck! I had a bad experience with the local Toyota dealership for my wife's 2020 Camry SE that pretty much told me you can't trust dealerships. They over filled her engine by 3 qrts. On her way home car started stalling and blowing out smoke so the tech did not even check the oil level after filling it. She knows to check the oil after oil changes, but she did not that time. She learned why she should always check it after that. That dealer now requires them to show the customer the dipstick after every oil change. They did go through the car to make sure no damage was detected. You hear that type of thing happening at Wal-Marts, but a Toyota Dealer? Just goes to show the carelessness of people now days.

    • @jimmieb1773
      @jimmieb1773 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Today's mechanics don't have the skills of the old school mechanics. If the computer doesn't tell them what's wrong they can't fix it and they don't care about details (correct oil level) .
      Just in and out and is it time to go home.

    • @KStewart-th4sk
      @KStewart-th4sk วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jimmieb1773 Too many people have the idea that the mechanics just hook up the scan tool, read the DTC's that the computer has set, and then they know what to change. Big mistake to think that, for those taking their vehicles to get fixed, also the mechanics who seem to lack the training and only go by the codes that were set. Then they start throwing parts at it. Eric O. at South Main Auto and Ivan at Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics have shown countless times how so-called "factory trained techs" at dealers have FAILED. Often after charging hundreds or thousands of dollars and not fixing the problem. I am sure some techs at dealerships are good, BUT there also seems to be a lot of bad ones too.

    • @Vendemeer
      @Vendemeer 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      30 years ago I took our 91 Camry to the dealer for routine 60k mile trans service before a 300+ mile trip. During the drive the car had a couple odd shifting episodes and the day after we returned I found a pool of tranny fluid under the car. I called the dealership and scheduled an appointment because the fluid had obviously been overfilled. I waited at the dealer for the car to be checked out and when the svc mgr called me up to the counter he said I needed a valve cover gasket and distributor gasket. I asked what about the trans oil leak and he said “hard to tell where that is coming from with all oil leaking from the engine”. No thanks, and I never went back to that dealer or bought another Toyota. Those gaskets were not leaking. The car had over 200k when it was traded and the gaskets were never replaced or the transmission serviced again.

  • @KEJECENE
    @KEJECENE 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    I'm 55yo and still lay down on my driveway and change my own oil, on all my cars and bikes. The cost savings is secondary to knowing i did the job right, a little bit of back pain hurts less than new engine replacement

    • @chuckgladfelter
      @chuckgladfelter วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'm 63 and still do my own servicing including transfer case, transmission, differentials, etc. I feel your pain too. Getting old sucks but beats the alternative.

    • @robertleonard5144
      @robertleonard5144 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Ditto

    • @1798iscomingback
      @1798iscomingback 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Im 53 and do the same.
      Last time I had an oil change at the dealer (GM), I came to find out that I drove the car 5000 miles with the drain plug finger tight... they put the plug back but didn't tighten it.
      Luckly it didn't came off in 5K miles...

    • @bizzfo
      @bizzfo 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Yup. Dealership service departments are incompetent. It didn’t used to be that way. But that’s what happens when people don’t give a crap about anything they work on.

  • @blackscotydog
    @blackscotydog 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    This is making my old 4.0 sohc Ranger look good...220k and still going strong.

    • @bigcatauna
      @bigcatauna วันที่ผ่านมา

      que the ford ranger song

    • @snowg4953
      @snowg4953 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      238000 on my explorer

    • @kellismith4329
      @kellismith4329 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      440K on my old ‘93 w/300 I6

  • @on-site4094
    @on-site4094 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    Knock knock who’s there uncle Rodney 😂

    • @meggatron3
      @meggatron3 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      you cant come in because I just spun mr Bearing

    • @bills6093
      @bills6093 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Well, it was Uncle Mains.

    • @dougnorton5143
      @dougnorton5143 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      And Baron! 😂

    • @kerrylewis2581
      @kerrylewis2581 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Knock, knock. Bang, bang 😥

    • @Harb67
      @Harb67 วันที่ผ่านมา

      🤣🤣🤣

  • @182QKFTW
    @182QKFTW 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    I mean, should we really be needing to replace the timing system on ~80k mile engines in the first place? My answer would be NO. Ridiculous

  • @alanwheeler3309
    @alanwheeler3309 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I have a 2001 ford ranger 3.0 v6. 201000 miles. Still going good but I do a lot of my own maintenance.

  • @gloryland59
    @gloryland59 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Best ford information on the web.

  • @a.s.4914
    @a.s.4914 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    That's a mad Raptor! You're the best Ford Tech. Thanks for the video. 👍

  • @carlbruhn1772
    @carlbruhn1772 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Very informative . Thanks for breaking it down.

  • @Lyle-tm1tm
    @Lyle-tm1tm 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    My best friend is a mechanic at my local Honda/Acura dealership and many of the newest Honda/Acura vehicles are being built cheaply. Lots of minor issues with my 2022 Acura MDX as well as my wife's Lexus rx. Luckily no issues with drivetrain that left us stranded but the minor issues are annoying. Was looking at a new Honda Odyssey with my daughter and the rear power tailgate had a huge gap on one side and dealer said they recently switched to now just having 1 motor on the right side to close the hatch now so there will be a gap.

  • @jdwht2455
    @jdwht2455 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Took my 46,000 mile '19 with 3.5EB in for cam phasers. Two complete tear downs and two sets of cam phasers and associated parts, and 13 days later got my truck back. Do I trust that truck now - got my fingers crossed but so far it has been faithful over the last 500 or so miles. The positives - a timely (due) oil, filter and coolant change - two times and one plus mpg gas mileage increase (so far). If it 'blows' my no charge receipt is ready to show that the engine has been opened twice

    • @samholdsworth420
      @samholdsworth420 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Cam phasers at 46k?
      Lol that's horrible

    • @jdwht2455
      @jdwht2455 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@samholdsworth420 Yep. That's what the service manager said as well (he is also a 40+ year friend as well) This is a babied truck that has had oil changed every 3500-4000 miles and done at the dealership

  • @softwaresignals
    @softwaresignals วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Guessing the engine was running with no oil in the sump for a while. Maybe the previous timing job tech forgot to put oil back in it before running it???? Then, main bearing material went to the pan, and then somehow (filter's bypass open on a cold start-up?) it made it past the oil filter and on up to the cam phasor screens.

    • @kerrylewis2581
      @kerrylewis2581 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I had the same thought

  • @bvu950
    @bvu950 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    It was working until the dealer fixed it, sounds too familiar. I agree with another post. Dealer may have done timing job and somebody started it before they added oil. Countdown to disaster.

  • @29auto30
    @29auto30 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    What really stinks he just paid for that timing job, and it only has 84,000 miles on it, now he has to pay for a engine... $10,000? SMH..

  • @chrischiampo7647
    @chrischiampo7647 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    😮🤕😮😲 Insane Amount of Carnage Brian Wowzers

  • @eggbert191
    @eggbert191 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Sounded like my washing machine on a spin cycle with a big towel in it

  • @seandieger3317
    @seandieger3317 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I would never go 6 or 7000 miles on a oil change. 5000 even seems extreme. 3 to 4000 for me. Oil is cheep insurance.

  • @fZionists78
    @fZionists78 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The people’s most valued Ford Tech.

    • @kellismith4329
      @kellismith4329 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      The peoples champion

  • @knobbiesshreaded3137
    @knobbiesshreaded3137 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    2018 50k. Full Syn every 3k. Phasers replaced a couple months ago. Into the shop today with a stuck caliper, smoking right rear brake. Fun times.

    • @jeremiah-om7zl
      @jeremiah-om7zl 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I couldn't believe 3,000 mile oil changes. I had to read it twice😂. People think synthetic oil goes farther. 🎩 off to ya. FYI, do your own work......... yes you can

    • @smiller225
      @smiller225 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I did a stuck rear caliper on my 18 a few months ago

    • @alb12345672
      @alb12345672 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@smiller225 same with my 11. Replaced all calipers and hoses, was not really expensive. Almost 200K.

    • @jeremiah-om7zl
      @jeremiah-om7zl วันที่ผ่านมา

      @smiller225 calipers are easy, buy a loaded caliper

    • @knobbiesshreaded3137
      @knobbiesshreaded3137 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@jeremiah-om7zl Truck has Powerstop Z36 rotors and pads. And, my right arm is temporarily out of action. Hence...in the shop.

  • @rf159a
    @rf159a 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    The oil looks like metallic paint!

  • @christuttle3980
    @christuttle3980 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    Long live the V8😎

    • @kenj.8897
      @kenj.8897 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Cylinder count doesn't matter, quality does and Ford hasn't had it for 20 years

    • @Shiver2002
      @Shiver2002 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@kenj.8897 I disagree. Their quality really only fell off in the last 5 years or so.

    • @Shiver2002
      @Shiver2002 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The 5.0 isn't exactly problem free these days either..\

    • @christuttle3980
      @christuttle3980 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      First On Race Day

    • @meggatron3
      @meggatron3 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Shiver2002 right ive had quite a few fords over 200k miles with good engines that had plenty of life left

  • @JohnMurphy-dw6ml
    @JohnMurphy-dw6ml 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    So what was the conclusion? What caused the crankshaft bearings to fail?

    • @RonRussell-sj1zf
      @RonRussell-sj1zf 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Mains usually fail when oil pressure is suddenly lost, like drain plug falls out, or started by accident after an oil drain but no oil put back in, or a filter o-ring blew out. Rods usually fail when engine run low on oil for an extended time.

    • @kevinmills5293
      @kevinmills5293 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I was wondering the same thing. What was the root cause? How did the metal get in the phaser solenoids? The oil would have passed through the filter so should be clean. Debris from the mains would be flushed into the sump so cannot make its way to the top of the engine. It sounds like the oil filter wasn’t doing its job.

    • @JohnMurphy-dw6ml
      @JohnMurphy-dw6ml 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@RonRussell-sj1zf Yes, I am well aware of that, but why didn’t he come to a conclusion on the video. He’s the one who made the accusation.

    • @acdii
      @acdii 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@kevinmills5293 The debris in the solenoids is from the bearings that failed. Somehow the material got pulled into the crank and fed upstream to the heads, but that is bearing goo in the screens. Root cause is speculation at this point, we know what failed, but the answer to why is a mystery. As others said, maybe it got started without oil which marked the bearings and then just driving did it in.

    • @kevinmills5293
      @kevinmills5293 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@acdii “somehow” is not possible.

  • @JohnSmith-qi9qs
    @JohnSmith-qi9qs 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Why do the mains fail like that? Why do some fail and not the others?

  • @mikechiodetti4482
    @mikechiodetti4482 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    That's gonna be a very expensive repair. I'm sure that complete engine replacement is not cheap! This is where a professional like Brian should be maintaining this vehicle. No 10,000 mile oil changes either! It's 3500 to 4000 miles or 6 months which ever comes first!
    Thank you for this video.

    • @hotpuppy1
      @hotpuppy1 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That is too clean inside to have gone 10k on the oil change. Spun mains is unusual. I am betting more on a manufacturing defect.

  • @marksearcy9708
    @marksearcy9708 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Great video! You think the broken piece of aluminum from the sensor is what started the problem?🤔

    • @FordTechMakuloco
      @FordTechMakuloco  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      The only thing that I see for sure.

  • @jiggidyjam
    @jiggidyjam 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    I was talking to a guy at taco hell the other day that had a 2014 f150 w/ 3.5 and he has 287k miles and he said he has had zero issues so far

    • @mph5896
      @mph5896 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Guess it all depends on what day it was built. I replaced a 2015 3.5 turbo last fall @ 87k due to a timing chain that broke and crashed the valves.

    • @jiggidyjam
      @jiggidyjam 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@mph5896 damn that sucks

    • @tagle2818
      @tagle2818 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I guarantee he has turbo coolant lines leaking he just keeps typing it off.

    • @nickl3872
      @nickl3872 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Wtf he is lucky lol

    • @DapimpBDSD
      @DapimpBDSD 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Its luck, i had to replace a MAF that went bad @24k miles.

  • @vincentrose9060
    @vincentrose9060 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Theres my arguement for bringing back the V8. Even though the 3.5L V6 has more power & torque than the 5.4L. You have fewer pistons, rods, cylindeds, and in this case fewer bearings handling the stress load than the 5.4L V8. Does my argument hold water?

  • @john7017
    @john7017 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I'm done with Ford now after dealing with the 3 valve Triton mess and now this. Ford should stand behind their engines and correct them promptly under warranty. Gone are the days of the indestructible 4.9L straight 6 engine that last 500,000 plus miles. I have one in my 96 F-150 and it still runs great.

    • @LA_Commander
      @LA_Commander วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I have the 4.6L 2V motor in my '05 Explorer it still runs strong as ever, even after a quarter million miles. No engine work at all other than new intake manifold gaskets.

    • @crVic_r
      @crVic_r 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Using light oil and modern technology side by side is a winning formula for spoiling things.

  • @name-ob6np
    @name-ob6np 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Nice Milwaukee lights !! I appreciate all your videos. Very good information.

  • @patpeacock8150
    @patpeacock8150 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    That rod knock

  • @oldjarhead386
    @oldjarhead386 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    A lot of varnishing inside that engine. Especially for 85k. Extended or low quality oil changes??
    I’ve built plenty of 4.6s that looked like new inside at those miles

  • @markk3652
    @markk3652 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    This seems to me, a point of assembly problem. Something was out of spec, be it bearing or machining of hard components. The oil changes were evidenced upon engine disassembly, so that gets ruled out. A bad set of bearings, or improperly machined rotational parts looks to have played the part in the destruction.

  • @d-tone551
    @d-tone551 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I’ve been an F150 guy all my life I’ve always gone 150-200k miles with no major mechanical issues - no timing jobs no rebuilds before selling the truck in usable condition to someone else and then buying a new truck. I’m currently driving 2007 F150 and am overdue for a replacement but these new turbocharged engines just scare the crap out of me. Why in the world would you need an expensive timing job and then a full engine replacement at less than 100k miles. Dear god what has happened to these once tough trucks! It’s not just Ford, they all seem to suck now.

  • @SvnBchk
    @SvnBchk วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    84K miles sucks! Something went bad, and I do not think it was the customer or Fords fault, at least on the surface. If the front cover had not been taken off, then I would blame Ford. Good luck proving the dealership tech is to blame, although that oil control switch is very telling…

  • @josephvantreeck2989
    @josephvantreeck2989 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    thx Brian

  • @harleybubba747
    @harleybubba747 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    My 01 F-150 will hit 200K by the end of this month. 4.6 2v fresh dino oil and Wix every 3000 miles since new, no real issues. 06 Explorer 4.0 same story. Take care of them and they take care of you.

  • @nightstorm9128
    @nightstorm9128 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The chain on this thing is like a pushbike chain,,,

  • @F.o.s.t.e.r.
    @F.o.s.t.e.r. วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I had a dealership in Toledo do my phasors, got the truck back and the main bearing was wiped out, sounded very similarly.
    Naturally, the dealership said it was like that before and told me to sue them.

    • @bobtenharkel4367
      @bobtenharkel4367 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Did you ?

    • @F.o.s.t.e.r.
      @F.o.s.t.e.r. วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@bobtenharkel4367 no, the dealership has a reputation of tying things up in court so even if I would've won, I would've spent more fighting them than just cutting my losses.
      I sold it off to carvana wholesale (informed them of everything) and just moved on. It sucked but frankly, I'm kind of done with Ford after the last two flops I've had from them. Picked up a fourth gen Sierra 2500 and absolutely love it.

  • @michaelscully8461
    @michaelscully8461 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Brian, you show us the result, but what exactly was the cause? Aftermarket tune? Bad gas? Poor assembly? Looks like the oil was changed often enough.

    • @crVic_r
      @crVic_r 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Using light oil and modern technology side by side is a winning formula for spoiling things.

  • @Akshark58
    @Akshark58 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I wonder if the line bore was off spec, from the factory?

  • @1976Datsun
    @1976Datsun 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    So the oil from the mains flows up to the camshaft control solenoids? You didn't really say. Would have been neat to see an oil flow path illustration.
    You didn't really answer the title question either. Oil change intervals too long? Or just an owner beating on his truck?
    Still a good video. Just leaves questions...

    • @FordTechMakuloco
      @FordTechMakuloco  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I specified at least twice the direction the oil flows after the filter and I did mention 5, 6, 7k mile oil change intervals plus you can tell that just by looking at the engine.

    • @1976Datsun
      @1976Datsun 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@FordTechMakuloco Thanks for replying. I'm familiar with the direction but as you know in some places the oil exits after it does its job, like for the rod bearings. Passes through the rod bearings and out the sides to the pan. What you're saying is that the oil passes through the mains then up to the VCT solenoids. Seems unusual.

    • @paulmarczak1062
      @paulmarczak1062 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@1976Datsun the oil feeds are a one way trip to its consumers, it can’t flow through the mains and up to the heads. Comes through the main bearings, to rods and that’s it. Solenoids got it from the junk in the pan, likely through a filter bypass if there is one or the filters own bypass.

    • @1976Datsun
      @1976Datsun 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@paulmarczak1062 Thanks, that's what I thought also (actually added another comment about it). So, unless there was bypassing the main bearing material could not make it up to the solenoids. Would be interesting to see what is in the filter.

  • @jimamizzi1
    @jimamizzi1 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    So was it oil starvation? The pickup even tho it had crap in there still should have been ok..or should it? The engine seemed very clean inside so I’m guessing it had regular oil changes. Excellent video, thumbs 👍from me.

  • @christopherandersen5950
    @christopherandersen5950 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    but where is the broken piece of the connector holder.. was that the pieces in the pickup..

    • @MrsSunshine75
      @MrsSunshine75 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @chris That’s where I too thought the vid was heading to!

  • @andysmith2155
    @andysmith2155 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Oil consumption, probably ran low on oil causing damage.

    • @calholli
      @calholli 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Maybe so..

    • @FordTechMakuloco
      @FordTechMakuloco  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      It was never that low which is how he found it was a problem is the first place.

  • @thk7513
    @thk7513 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Am I mistaken, the screen on the phaser solenoids have metal residue on them, therefore the bearing material IS getting past the oil filter. Those oil passages are fed oil downstream of the filter.

    • @FordTechMakuloco
      @FordTechMakuloco  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      the oil goes to the crank and rod journals first then onto the heads and vct solenoids last so between the filter and the solenoid is where the metal is getting introduced.

  • @poorhouseracing
    @poorhouseracing วันที่ผ่านมา

    I had a 18 F-150 4x4 5.0 with the oli consumption problem,at 50k the dealership replaced the engine after a lot of back and forth of them trying to tell me that 3 quarts of oil in 5k miles was considered normal. They had the truck for 10 weeks to do the repairs. They removed the cab to do the engine swap. 3 days after getting it back from the dealership, my wife was driving down the interstate at 70 mph and the steering wheel locked up, the truck left the roadway and hit a big oak tree before she could get it stopped. It totaled the truck, Ford was notified and supposedly sent out an engineer to the salvage yard, but of course found nothing their technician had done wrong. Coincidence or did something not get tightened on the steering shaft?

  • @ctbale1
    @ctbale1 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You never said what your opinion was why there was bearing damage. (Oil starvation is the correct answer or QC when it was built. But that would blow up way before 89k. Dealer miss diagnosed the noise and boned him for a timing job??

  • @tonyf2268
    @tonyf2268 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Great video

  • @duggydo
    @duggydo 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Well, at least it didn't lock up like the Toyota's are doing when they spin a main. It must have been debris instead of a lack of oil. I bet that chunk they broke off during the timing job caused it.

  • @thelefthandedshooter381
    @thelefthandedshooter381 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I just got the phaser rattle on my gen2 3.5 cohost in a 2018 Expedition 67000 miles. Do I need to rush to get the phaser replaced or do I live with it? I’m using Flood Start Mode to prime the oil and getting no rattle. I do all the oil changes at 5k or lower. I don’t have a Brian near by that I can absolutely trust to do it right the first time.

  • @Rx4Lyfe
    @Rx4Lyfe 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Sounds exactly like a top loader washing machine with unbalanced load on uneven footings

  • @1798iscomingback
    @1798iscomingback 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Never let your turbo engine overheat, change the engine oil at 5K miles and always use top tier full synthetic...
    Thats how you make your turbo engine last.
    The bearing spun probably because of overheating....

  • @stevenwilliams4034
    @stevenwilliams4034 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I have a 2008 expedition with 5.4 L 3 valve. It has an issue that would make for interesting content on your channel. The primary symptom is misfiring… But it only happens in reverse with a load (towing my boat). There are no misfires except for that scenario. When it does, the check engine light comes on and it throws a camshaft position sensor code, both of which have been replaced with genuine Motorcraft parts. I’d love your input!

  • @randysrestoration
    @randysrestoration 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Looks to me a dealer dropped oil then started ran possible drove truck failed to add oil until realized. Then after too late added oil then let truck go.

  • @Ryansroga-wm6pj
    @Ryansroga-wm6pj 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nice find thanks for sharing

  • @acdii
    @acdii 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Did you find that broken piece in the pan, or did that last guy who broke it removed it? I am due for timing chain and water pump in my 2014 Flex EB. 185K miles, runs like new, but occasionally can hear chain slap on first start. What was the consensus on what caused the bearings to fail in the first place? Dry start after repairs? It had to be something the last Mech did, that engine is way too clean to fail that soon, and in that manner.

  • @blkcoupequattro
    @blkcoupequattro 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm betting someone forgot to put oil in it after changing it, and started it up no oil, doesn't take long with no oil to ruin an engine 10-15 seconds no oil you start to get bearing material transfer to the crank....

  • @je1279
    @je1279 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Sounds like it has those new fangled disconnecting rods.

  • @jedgeled759
    @jedgeled759 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    spent 30+ years workin for ford stealerships and i seen my share of cavemen who could care less about quality repairs,,,if a little mallet wouldnt seat the front cover ,bring out the sledge and make it seat !!!! thats flat rate for Ya !!!!!

  • @Chef-James
    @Chef-James 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Eco-BOOM! I think I'll go outside and give my 5.6 hemi Titan a big hug.
    Former blue blood.

  • @marks93cobra
    @marks93cobra วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Every time I watch one of these videos it just reaffirms my desire to never buy another turbo Ford ever again (Coyote, Godzilla or nothing for me).

  • @user-sf9pq5ox7w
    @user-sf9pq5ox7w 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    EcoBoost? Run.

  • @1976Datsun
    @1976Datsun 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Any chance the filter was clogged and the oil bypassed it?

  • @JohnDiMartino
    @JohnDiMartino วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You’ll never know exactly what caused the failure however based on how the front cover looked I’m goin to go out on a limb and guess the tech who replaced the phasers wasn’t careful or clean enough when he did the job and now years later the dealer is off the hook and the owners out 10-12 k for you to fix it right . What a shame ,it’s clear the owner was good with his maintenance.

  • @johnknox5692
    @johnknox5692 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Climbing steep hills, oil starvation. Maybe the 2 center cap were switched at factory somehow.

  • @paulhudgins5120
    @paulhudgins5120 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Damn way too low of mileage to be putting a motor in it, I will keep my 97 F150 4.6L 2V with over 286K.

  • @cmennenger
    @cmennenger 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    How far does the oil pump pickup screen sit above the oil pan? Could the broken casting have blocked the pickup screen causing oil starvation? I'm sure the pistons are short skirt type and lack of oil pressure would score pistons and damage rings. I feel the owners pain on that one.

  • @jrcll7856
    @jrcll7856 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    WOW

  • @stephenreiner1523
    @stephenreiner1523 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Uhoh sounds like a main bearing gone.

  • @nightstorm9128
    @nightstorm9128 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    It's funny how back in the 80s and 90s car manufacturers could make engines that could comfortably go 4 or 5 hundred thousand miles,,With little or no problem,,,The old GM 3600 and 3800 could do half a million miles on 10k oil changes,,,No probs,,,Now in 2024 That technology seems to be lost,,,Isn't technology supposed to advance with time,,,,Its backward we have gone,,,Think about it,,,,,,,,,,,,An old flathead engine from the 1930s is superior in almost every way ,,To 99 percent of all gas engines today,,,Except maybe for fuel economy,,,,,,,,We really are living in a upside down world,,

  • @young11984
    @young11984 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    8:03 im saying spun main bearing and probably slivers of bearing and block surface sliced off going into the solenoids or possibly oil pump

  • @UQRXD
    @UQRXD 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For the metal to get past filter. I will guess the filter bypass opened at some point. I knew it was the main bearings from the sound right off. Rebuilt many engines in my time. Thanks for showing.

    • @FordTechMakuloco
      @FordTechMakuloco  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      No the metal was produced after the filter.

    • @calholli
      @calholli 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@FordTechMakuloco You mean the metal.. :)

    • @UQRXD
      @UQRXD 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@FordTechMakuloco I see thanks for reply.

  • @budshatto3683
    @budshatto3683 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My two cents says the owner thought he had a hot rod because it was a Raptor!

    • @FordTechMakuloco
      @FordTechMakuloco  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      It should be able to handle the stock calibration.

  • @JohnMurphy-dw6ml
    @JohnMurphy-dw6ml 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Ford and what’s left of the other so-called American manufacturers need to go back to mechanical systems! These manufacturers have gone way too far with the electronics and electronic control systems! Another issue is using way too much plastic, and instead of using gaskets using silicone to seal components! This will never happen because nobody gives a shit anymore in this country!

    • @billsimpson604
      @billsimpson604 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They had to do that to meet the government fleet mileage requirements. That stuff might change in about 4 months, depending on who wins the election.

    • @JohnMurphy-dw6ml
      @JohnMurphy-dw6ml วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@billsimpson604 So, in other words, it wastes a lot more fuel, while trying to save fuel!

  • @pvanderwall3473
    @pvanderwall3473 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Now it's like to see what the the rod bearing look like. That heavy knocking sounds a lot like a rod has spun a bearing too. Interesting for sure considering how clean that motor is. Definitely a failure

  • @rf159a
    @rf159a 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Ford: "Your engine will self-destruct in 50,000 miles." Ford must have taken lessons from "Mission Impossible".

  • @jamesplotkin4674
    @jamesplotkin4674 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    There's some boob (won't name him so he doesn't feel bad) claims full syn oils cause sludge in his Godzilla engine. That's BS. In my personal and business vehicles, 3k oci and good oil. period. Trans at 25k and diff at 50k. Never had a failure.

  • @MrRockydee07
    @MrRockydee07 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yes, great video, but this is off subject, Have a 2016 police interceptor utility has the 3.7 engine and still has the Ford Orange. coolant that Ford advised the change to the Yellow coolant becouse of the water aluminum water pump issues.

  • @GregoryBirulkin
    @GregoryBirulkin วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bearings that are spinning, what cause it, loose bearing caps?

  • @robertrpenny
    @robertrpenny วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ftm what do the experts say caused those main bearing failures? Oil too light or sheared down? Incorrect clearance? Pump gone bad? Turbo boost out of control? Those Ecoboosts are bout nuff to make you loco.

  • @stephenbullock-yn3vh
    @stephenbullock-yn3vh วันที่ผ่านมา

    Quality down the tubes on these newer engines. I believe the oil pump loss pressure do to timing chain tensioners o ring failure

  • @JOHNROWE-cl9iq
    @JOHNROWE-cl9iq 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The question I would be asking is why? This is not normal for this engine. There has to be a cause🤔. Previous repair debris left behind to get picked up in the pump screen? 🤔

    • @FordTechMakuloco
      @FordTechMakuloco  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      It may have been floating around.

  • @allanrheaume5549
    @allanrheaume5549 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Now I'm spooked, my truck is at 50k miles and I just had the phasers replaced 3 months ago. Wouldn't the oil filter pick up those shavings that we saw in the VCT solenoids before they can even get there?

    • @FordTechMakuloco
      @FordTechMakuloco  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Yes, as explained so the metal we saw in the VCT solenoid screen was produced between the oil filter and the solenoids which is the end of the line.

  • @chiefordnance
    @chiefordnance 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    5.4 and 3.5L Uugh 😢 any teardown on 3.0 or 2.7Ls? 😊

  • @1966roadster
    @1966roadster 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I have a 50k mile 2015 F250 6.2l and I’ll getting oil into #8. How can I tell if it’s ring or valve related??? Thanks!

  • @bills6093
    @bills6093 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So why did it fail? What caused the mains to fail?

  • @deansapp4635
    @deansapp4635 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Damm, Looks like oil starvation

  • @kylel4361
    @kylel4361 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Seems like all new cars are built cheap. I have a 2024 Tacoma and the transmission needed replacing, it was a recall. The AC also went out and the clock stopped working. My wife's 2022 Honda CRV has had so many little dumb things like the airbag light, glovebox wouldn't open, power tailgate broke...ect. My daughter in law's 2021 Hyundai Palisade turned 75k miles and every month she has a new small dumb issue pop up from leaky sunroof to last week's fuel door would not open. My neighbor has the new Honda electric suv and has been in a loaner car more than he has driven the Honda. I used to bad mouth American cars but my f150 work truck with the ecoboost just hit 120k miles and never had any issues and I use it as a mobile office so it has lots of idle hours on it.

    • @Lyle-tm1tm
      @Lyle-tm1tm 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Completely agree. My love for the Japanese cars is quickly fading. Seems like they are all made the same now...cheap cheap cheap. So many little issues with my 22 Acura MDX and wife's 21 Lexus RX as well as my daughter's 2023 rav4.

  • @Tomcat71
    @Tomcat71 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thats the factory antiseize maker package ....

  • @robertleonard5144
    @robertleonard5144 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Uncle Rodney, is that you at the door?

  • @sambrown8224
    @sambrown8224 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    At 16:00, why is there no locking tab on those bearings? Without the tab, the bearing will spin under load.

  • @robertdavis4184
    @robertdavis4184 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I could cure these problems Ford bring back the I 300 six good video

  • @madddaddy65
    @madddaddy65 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Crankshaft flex causing severe wear??

  • @JBM802
    @JBM802 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Reminds me of when Cletus melted the timing chain guides in neighbor so they replace the guides and hell yeah that’s fine. It wasn’t, they never thought about where that guide material went. They found out where it goes when it gets melted.

    • @JBM802
      @JBM802 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I also think Ford should look into oil squirters for the timing chains, semi bath and splash. I guess it’s good enough, but it could be better you know.

  • @oby-1607
    @oby-1607 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Looks like a bad crankshaft. Maybe dropped or heat core shift before assembly. I say this because of the two outer mains being in better shape than in the middle.

  • @thearrow5793
    @thearrow5793 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Can you tell me what’s the main problem causing this issue….

    • @kenj.8897
      @kenj.8897 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      UAW

    • @georgeburns7251
      @georgeburns7251 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kenj.8897too funny. But true