This is the most simple and straight forward explanation and feel to fix an over the top swing. So many videos out there with complicated angles with your elbows and wrists yet it still doesn’t click so fast in a golfers mind. Good stuff.
100% - when he says 'I have a tendency to move to my left foot too early' it is just a matter of degree. When I do that, I hit the shot thick - when he does it, it's 1 or 2 yards less of a draw. It's good to know they struggle with the same things!
It's not a trick. The club gains in weight with speed so you have to counter that weight. What you see in pictures is the result of counter weight movements
i think this could be the most under-rated and misunderstood piece of advice for the golf swing. your hands basically have to drop inside but because your body is turning it pushes your hands back on path. i wish i'd seen this video years ago!
If you didn’t understand this before (like me) then you are either condemned to swinging over the top or to come too much from the inside on the d/s FOREVER!
Great explanation Justin. Watched you doing this on the practice day at the Rome Ryder cup. It improved my ball striking, I now dow just that as my practice swing. Thank you
I was taught this recently for the first time in over 25 years of lessons (only periodic lessons during that time-not all the time!) Combined with my making a big enough turn in b/s it makes a huge difference to quality of strike. It also means it is easier to start turning back sooner without swinging over the top. Very helpful indeed to have my lesson reinforced by seeing a video like this. Thanks very much for sharing
I used this method last week and played the best round of my life! Thank you Mr. Rose! Golf is so much fun when the ball is going where you want it to!
Most pros are way better teachers than professional teachers because they get right to it and have seen it all on a deep level of mastery, whereas the pro teachers try to drag lessons out for maximum capitalization of each student.
@@JP-jd5vz And I have never heard anything more insightful. As a general rule of thumb (some exceptions allowed): Those who can, do, and those who can't, teach.
Notice his right palm looking directly at the camera in the down the line view. This is huge. More solid contact, hit the ball further with less effort and the right wrist is staying flexed (bent back) all the way through impact (which is called shaft lean)
Wow, first golfvideo that Really spoke to me… Thank U! I hate videos that are 15m long for no reason. It should be like this. As if spoken to people who actually have a chance to improve. I fall asleep to videos that are long for no reason. Simple instructions, feel, etc. Thats what I want. Someone who could recommend a youtube-site? 🙏
"As you are turning to the left, centripetal force tends to throw the club out". Why have I never seen an instructor impart this important information? And more importantly explain what to do about it.
What was the purpose of changing the camera angle towards the end of the video when Justin was demonstrating the difference between his feel and real swings?
Good video (not great). The reason?! Well, Justin explains something really important and they don't show a good view of the "real" at the end. (Pretty pointless if you don't do that.) With that said; Justin Rose did a splendid job explaining the concept. (Check out some outer videos f you want to get the "real" from different angles to make the video complete.)
good guy Justin Rose sharing so much. Great communication skills, believe he would make a great Ryder Cup captain - but that's not for another 20 years! He's my pocket pick for this weekend!
wouldn't it be better to work on something that is playable, that you can do in the actual swing, that prevents the club from being thrown out too much by the centrifugal force. and, all you have to is keep the left arm out of your peripheral in the downswing. and, it doesn't matter how much you sqat down in the pre-swing, it isn't going to stop you from leaning into the shot. and, the only way to do that is to press down with your left foot when the club crosses over to the target side of the hands in the backswing, and then increase the pressure that you apply in the downswing. this, also, helps to complete the backswing and clear the left side in the downswing.
his camera angle changes so we don't get a chance to see his 'real' from the rear view. It looked like his club was coming down slightly on the outside to me, …. and isn't that on-plane?
This is the secret. The club at the top…. The first move is the club goes straight down behind you. Then swing. Drop the club and then swing and rotate. You are now shallow.
EVERYONE, and I mean EVERYONE, falls victim to the misconception of the golf swing! This misconception revolves (no pun intended) around one word. Any guesses?
I thought all these guys were trying to keep the club in front of them. Pro mistake usually club getting stuck too far inside. Surprised to see him say he does this bc he wants feel of it more behind him
Justin Rose's miss is a fade or ball that goes right. If you were a player who's miss was a hook or ball that goes left, you'd do the opposite. Since his miss is a rightward ball he likes the behind underneath feeling to combat it. In golf often the opposite of what we think intuitively, is the path to success. Think about someone who slices the ball as a miss, they might think aiming more left or swinging more left will help straighten it, they are often scared to swing more the right when the ball goes to the right. Except that is exactly what they need to do it straight their shots.
@@jeffiden2508 I thought the ball was going right if you are late with your hands/club and rotate too early/fast. Wouldn't Rose want avoid being late with his club/hands in order to not hit it right. Tiger's miss is also to the right because he said he was too fast with his hips. So Tiger wants a feel that his hands come first and then his hips. Notice that's his feel.
@@anklepick9524 you just contridicted yourself in that statement. You said a ball goes right if your hands/club rotate to fast, which is incorrect. Then proceed to say tiger misses right because of the opposite, his hips move to fast. As a general rule. Arms/hands that are out of sync with your body in a manner that is too fast, will cause the ball to go left. Hips that are out of sync with your body and going too fast will cause the ball to go the left. But in reality everyone is different and balls that go left and right are only determined by club face and swing path. Its just that when your hips or hands outpace your body, the face or path is altered.
@@jeffiden2508 Yeah maybe it was a bad written sentence. But what I wanted to say is that if you are late with your hands too quick with your hip the ball goes right. Just like the example of Tigers feel. I didn't say "You said a ball goes right if your hands/club rotate to fast, which is incorrect". When I said rotate I meant hip rotation. Anyway, it's just weird that Rose wants a feel of being late with his hands when his miss is to the right. But maybe late is a wrong word compare to what you wrote "behind underneath feeling".
@@anklepick9524 I do not think he wants the feeling of being late with his hands at all. He wants to make sure the club starts DOWN asap whenever he starts his rotation TO AVOID going the club going out too much with his turn back. Gary Player apparently was once seen at The Open between rounds practising this sort of move for hours to embed the feeling.Davis Love was also taught this-“imagine driving a post into the ground at your side as the first move down”
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The switch to the one shot from the ball side camera so that you can’t see the demonstration which the whole video is about. 👏🏼
LOL. Exactly!!!
Yeah what genius thought that was a good idea🤦♂️
@vangledosh an editor that doesn't play golf, be my guess. Lol
I don't know, he said the club never really gets there, only a sensation, so perhaps there was nothing special to see in the actual swing?
😂😂😂
This is the most simple and straight forward explanation and feel to fix an over the top swing. So many videos out there with complicated angles with your elbows and wrists yet it still doesn’t click so fast in a golfers mind. Good stuff.
This is the next level discussions I love to hear from the pros. They still have to trick themselves into getting into the right positions.
100% - when he says 'I have a tendency to move to my left foot too early' it is just a matter of degree. When I do that, I hit the shot thick - when he does it, it's 1 or 2 yards less of a draw. It's good to know they struggle with the same things!
@@standarduck5860 All relative!
It's not a trick. The club gains in weight with speed so you have to counter that weight. What you see in pictures is the result of counter weight movements
His “free ride” comment is so on point. When you time this up right, hammering the ball feels effortless.
Yep and it goes shockingly far...I've flown greens I never thought possible when I've had this feel...but like all things in golf it goes away lol
@@MarkSmithhhh Yup 🤣 +20 yds when I get it, but only happened 2 times over the 15+ years of golf.
Feel and real always miles apart - good stuff Justin and PGA
I was struggling with my sensation/actual swing, but what he said completely makes sense. Dropped my handy by 10 this year.
I got a handy this year too.. My handi went up though.
HUH??
@@Mr2mellow never thought I’d come across such a fire comment on a golf swing video
i think this could be the most under-rated and misunderstood piece of advice for the golf swing. your hands basically have to drop inside but because your body is turning it pushes your hands back on path. i wish i'd seen this video years ago!
If you didn’t understand this before (like me) then you are either condemned to swinging over the top or to come too much from the inside on the d/s FOREVER!
@@maralvor hmm .. or the option is to watch this video, realise you need to make the swing changes and then make the necessary swing changes...
So simple yet so tremendously important. One of the best tips you can give any golfer. Thanks Mr. Rose.
This changed my game years ago. Eric Cogorno is where I originally got this from. Glad to see a pro talking about it.
Great explanation Justin. Watched you doing this on the practice day at the Rome Ryder cup. It improved my ball striking, I now dow just that as my practice swing. Thank you
One of the best swing on tour👍
Love his swing and demeanor. One of the nicest golf guys out there.
Absolutely, JR is a helluva guy
What a beautiful swing. The explanation was very easy to understand. I have a feeling that you are worthy.
Wow, I've learned so much more from this short video than watching countless other long videos combined.
Gosh he's good, and on top of that he makes me proud to be a golfer he's got such class and dignity. Represents the tour without a blemish.
🤔🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
I was taught this recently for the first time in over 25 years of lessons (only periodic lessons during that time-not all the time!) Combined with my making a big enough turn in b/s it makes a huge difference to quality of strike. It also means it is easier to start turning back sooner without swinging over the top. Very helpful indeed to have my lesson reinforced by seeing a video like this. Thanks very much for sharing
I used this method last week and played the best round of my life! Thank you Mr. Rose! Golf is so much fun when the ball is going where you want it to!
(Shoots 122)
Justin Rose would be an excellent teaching pro if he wanted to.
Most pros are way better teachers than professional teachers because they get right to it and have seen it all on a deep level of mastery, whereas the pro teachers try to drag lessons out for maximum capitalization of each student.
Gary Player is a case in point that this is false.
@@kbkesq Never heard anything more ridiculous about golf teaching than this.
@@JP-jd5vz And I have never heard anything more insightful. As a general rule of thumb (some exceptions allowed): Those who can, do, and those who can't, teach.
@@cscoetzee Exactly. Pros can play golf. But that doesn't mean they're great teachers. They focus on their own game and their own feels.
Wonderful segment! It would have been beneficial however to see the "feel vs real" from the same dtl angle. Cheers
Exactly. Absolutely worst video editors that work for pga
@@BrettGolfs it’s pretty ridiculous how incompetent they are. F’in cut away from his real swing to show a view from his sneakers.
I love how it's the same thing most of the time, articulated differently.
Notice his right palm looking directly at the camera in the down the line view. This is huge. More solid contact, hit the ball further with less effort and the right wrist is staying flexed (bent back) all the way through impact (which is called shaft lean)
Excellent example of feel vs real.
I feel like my drives are 280.
Real is my drives are only 200.
Amazing how ahead of his time Moe Norman was. Vertical drop and Horizontal Tug.
A ton of players do that already for a very long time...
@@arjanpetersen Moe Norman knew it was the magic move. Back in the 50's.
@@arjanpetersenaaaahaaaa guess you never heard of Moe
Justin I remember your wood shot for 2018 Fedex champion at the final round. That was the fantastic shot.
he is not here in the comments section
Wow, first golfvideo that
Really spoke to me… Thank U! I hate videos that are 15m long for no reason.
It should be like this. As if spoken to people who actually have a chance to improve. I fall asleep to videos that are long for no reason. Simple instructions, feel, etc. Thats what I want.
Someone who could recommend a youtube-site? 🙏
Excellent swing advice 💥
I’ve been doing this for about a week and it works.
After struggling with shallowing the club for the past 6 months, I just understood this FEEL today.
"Here's my feel...and here's my real." Thank you Justin Rose. Such a vital, important aspect/concept of the swing.
That's great! Cut to a side view of his "real" swing right before we get a chance to see where his arms and hands are on the downswing...
Incredibly annoying. Destroyed a wonderful video, otherwise.
This is it!
One of the best drills in golf.
Sure glad you changed the camera angle during the part the entire video was leading up to 👍🏼
"As you are turning to the left, centripetal force tends to throw the club out". Why have I never seen an instructor impart this important information? And more importantly explain what to do about it.
Excellent advice from the best of British.
Bery good and repeatable swing, emphasises the low and left exit which is great for compressing iron shots flush 👌
Great drill. Especially with the waterskier reference.
Pure gold.
Thank you Justin, best drill ever !
gotta love rosie.
Get him and Jason day to talk about different shots and feels. I would watch that repeatedly
Best drill on the internet.
if only the last shot was shown at the same camera angle from the feel and the real!
Right - so idiotic to move to some worthless camera angle right as he goes to swing.
Tell em justin! Focus on the fundamentals of the shift and the arms n club just kinda go to the magic spot
What do you do when your feel and your real both hurt.
This is so good!
What was the purpose of changing the camera angle towards the end of the video when Justin was demonstrating the difference between his feel and real swings?
Incredibly annoying. Destroyed a wonderful video, otherwise.
thanks for taking the time to explain
COME ON Justin ...🥳🥳🥳⛳ 🏌️♂️ Masters 2021!!!
I am getting better at this with irons but still really struggle slicing or miss hitting driver. any tips?
I've been wondering for years what the heck he was doing
Now I know why I've been shanking lately. He's right about the rehearsal has no rotation.
Shank often due to over the top when you’re exaggerating in to out.
More of this @pga
The best swing in the world
Beautiful.
Good video (not great). The reason?! Well, Justin explains something really important and they don't show a good view of the "real" at the end. (Pretty pointless if you don't do that.) With that said; Justin Rose did a splendid job explaining the concept. (Check out some outer videos f you want to get the "real" from different angles to make the video complete.)
Very good tips revealed
The guy to Justin's left has an impressive gut.
harry higgs, great golfer
Thanks for switching off the DTL view in the final swing so we missed the payoff of the entire video🙄🤦🏽♂️
That is awesome
good guy Justin Rose sharing so much. Great communication skills, believe he would make a great Ryder Cup captain - but that's not for another 20 years! He's my pocket pick for this weekend!
Shame final camera angle for the shot did nothing for us
Anyone else hearing Sylvester? ... youuuuuuu make me feel miiiìiighty real
Brilliant
wouldn't it be better to work on something that is playable, that you can do in the actual swing, that prevents the club from being thrown out too much by the centrifugal force. and, all you have to is keep the left arm out of your peripheral in the downswing. and, it doesn't matter how much you sqat down in the pre-swing, it isn't going to stop you from leaning into the shot. and, the only way to do that is to press down with your left foot when the club crosses over to the target side of the hands in the backswing, and then increase the pressure that you apply in the downswing. this, also, helps to complete the backswing and clear the left side in the downswing.
Would have been more helpful if you kept camera in the same position for the "real".
Very good
What a golfer 👌🏽☝👍🏽
彼はとても良い指導者になりそうだ。
Good explanation, never heard anyone say feel like your on back leg longer …hmm
his camera angle changes so we don't get a chance to see his 'real' from the rear view. It looked like his club was coming down slightly on the outside to me, …. and isn't that on-plane?
Classic feel vs real.
different capture location between feel and real
Exactly!
I think iv solved the actual physics of the swing. its totally different than what the golf world says
This is the secret. The club at the top…. The first move is the club goes straight down behind you. Then swing. Drop the club and then swing and rotate. You are now shallow.
Gold
Changes camera angle so we can’t see his real
이거 개신기함
팔을 그냥 몸오른편 바닥으로 수직낙하시키는 느낌인데
하체회전과 합쳐져서 공이저절로 쳐짐
손을 절대 공쪽으로 가져간다 생각 버려야됨
guys all in their feelings
EVERYONE, and I mean EVERYONE, falls victim to the misconception of the golf swing! This misconception revolves (no pun intended) around one word. Any guesses?
Up? Which is wrong. You need to hit down to make the ball go up. AJ Bonar has good lessons on this concept.
@@_thevaporz up cannot be misconstrued it only has one meaning!
I see!! Thanks for this tip,, wow wow wee wah
In other words: whatever works!
I thought all these guys were trying to keep the club in front of them. Pro mistake usually club getting stuck too far inside. Surprised to see him say he does this bc he wants feel of it more behind him
Justin Rose's miss is a fade or ball that goes right. If you were a player who's miss was a hook or ball that goes left, you'd do the opposite. Since his miss is a rightward ball he likes the behind underneath feeling to combat it. In golf often the opposite of what we think intuitively, is the path to success. Think about someone who slices the ball as a miss, they might think aiming more left or swinging more left will help straighten it, they are often scared to swing more the right when the ball goes to the right. Except that is exactly what they need to do it straight their shots.
@@jeffiden2508 I thought the ball was going right if you are late with your hands/club and rotate too early/fast. Wouldn't Rose want avoid being late with his club/hands in order to not hit it right. Tiger's miss is also to the right because he said he was too fast with his hips. So Tiger wants a feel that his hands come first and then his hips. Notice that's his feel.
@@anklepick9524 you just contridicted yourself in that statement. You said a ball goes right if your hands/club rotate to fast, which is incorrect. Then proceed to say tiger misses right because of the opposite, his hips move to fast.
As a general rule. Arms/hands that are out of sync with your body in a manner that is too fast, will cause the ball to go left. Hips that are out of sync with your body and going too fast will cause the ball to go the left.
But in reality everyone is different and balls that go left and right are only determined by club face and swing path. Its just that when your hips or hands outpace your body, the face or path is altered.
@@jeffiden2508 Yeah maybe it was a bad written sentence. But what I wanted to say is that if you are late with your hands too quick with your hip the ball goes right. Just like the example of Tigers feel.
I didn't say "You said a ball goes right if your hands/club rotate to fast, which is incorrect". When I said rotate I meant hip rotation.
Anyway, it's just weird that Rose wants a feel of being late with his hands when his miss is to the right. But maybe late is a wrong word compare to what you wrote "behind underneath feeling".
@@anklepick9524 I do not think he wants the feeling of being late with his hands at all. He wants to make sure the club starts DOWN asap whenever he starts his rotation TO AVOID going the club going out too much with his turn back. Gary Player apparently was once seen at The Open between rounds practising this sort of move for hours to embed the feeling.Davis Love was also taught this-“imagine driving a post into the ground at your side as the first move down”
60 thumbs down don`t really understand golf mechanics
Don't think, feel.
Wow I do the same thing a pro does
Feel and real are two completely different things... would be the perfect bumper sticker for a Plastic Surgeon's car.
it's always feel...if you study the masters like Bruce Lee you would know that...be a pro, feel it
Shallowing
Worst camera cut of all time at the end 🤦♂️
Wow. Best way to get rid of that hideous “hit the ball as soon as I can” instinct I have.
a good English man!`
amatuer doing this it always sank
Sorry Rose
It makes own my swingstyle
Wish there were more Justin Rose’s on the tour. Unfortunately so many tour players are selfish, spoiled cry babies!
Very complex to,understand.
Looks like George gankas is trying to teach but much more elegantly.
why just why would you cut to a different angle at impact when he is explaining a difference ???????????? does the editor not play golf? yeez...
Rose & Norén. Both do the same it seems 😊 Time to copy 😆
You cant copy a feel
@@sonny5196 but you can cop one
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