1960 and 1962 stock tube trains filmed in 1992 on London Underground's Central Line. Many of these shots have never been seen since the day they were filmed.
When I was 6-7 years old in 1991, my parents ran the Railway Tavern in Buckhurst Hill, and we lived upstairs. The pub's garden area was separated from Buckhurst Hill tube station platform by a chainlink fence, and every time a train came into the station (I could hear the track noise beforehand), I would run to the fence and watch the train come in. One glorious day, one of the drivers, who was also a regular at the pub, arranged for me to spend the day riding in the cab with him. We even went to Clapham depot and I got shown around. At the end of the day I got a bag full of Underground merchandise (pens, balloons, etc, fucking GOLD to a 6 year old). I'm 34 now, and to this day that is the happiest memory of my life.
Star Wars was filmed on 35mm tape, which was downsized at the time but the master copies were so much better that they used it for the 4K re-releases - it's a matter of how much quality you choose to keep around, for one
Thank you Peter for publishing this. I am by no means wide of the mark when I suggest that your title for which this footage was shot helped encourage my interest in the Underground - to the point that I ended up working there, driving A60 stock, and becoming an instructor too. 22 years ago I was a kid in my bedroom watching "Central Driver's Eye View"!
So strange how quiet the tube was them days (sound wise) The clip at 5:50, nobody talking, no deafening announcements, no clunky Alstom or Bombardier trains, literally just the classic motor whine
Now this train is in free rails of heaven for enternity, C151 trains will meet with 1960/1962 stock trains in Heaven, C151 and 1960/1962 stock in heaven, 1960 stock is better than C Stock, D Stock and 1983 Stock
just come across this as I am looking for pictures from the 80's for my artwork. I travelled in those trains from Ealing Broadway to Chancery lane, every day from 1978 to late 1984. A good friend started out as a ticket collector and then Guard and after Driver on these trains. Im saving this and sending it to him.. Great days and it brings back so many memories.. Cheers..
I was sad when they replaced the 1930s Art Deco red tubes with these!! The old ones had such dinky lamps and leather straps for standing passengers, very homely they were!!!!
Fantastic footage that evokes a lot of memories and can almost put myself back in that era due to the distinctive sounds those trains made. Almost cognitive like. Thank you for sharing.
I missed the old central lines, I sat on them 1984 to 1994 since I was baby, just left Walthamstow and left Victoria line ☹️(automatic), moved to leyton and central line was my new line and I got used to them. I loved the smell of the old tube trains like the central lines I called the devil trains, I used to be scared, because the lights used to come off and on the tunnel and they getting weaker and I remember on the news one of carriages was left at Bethnal Green, I was scared, lol, but I missed them.
They had a kind of atmosphere of the 1970s, even for those of us who were born in the late 1980s, and just kind of had to imagine what the 1970s were like.
I was 2 years old when this was filmed, strangely enough, I remember so much of it as I used to ride the central line to East Acton with my mum every weekend to stay with my auntie
At 0:46, Oswald Lawrence's famous "Mind the Gap" announcement, now well known for only still being in use at Embankment, was in use here on the Central Line at Bank for a short time in the 80's.
I remember these trains from two visits to London in 1987 when I was a child. I remember the noise from the compressors and the guards standing in an open door when the train left a station.
You've done Tracks in 1997 and a remake in 2006 (as a Bonus on The Golden Valley), You've just recently done a Special Tracks DVD of HST's that is not just great to watch but also to hear with the Stereo Sounds. But looking at these London Underground Trains even in the tunnels I think you could have another theme Production of Track's on the cards now. Keep looking through your archives for other outtakes of trains you have filmed because you have gold here. WELL DONE!!!!!
I think two things stand out when compared to other archives on TH-cam. Firstly, because these were legitimate authorised shots, all footage was steady (taken on a tripod rather than hand held). Secondly, even though the picture quality is not up to today's standards, the stereo sound is of broadcast quality, even today. The sounds are very reminiscent of the bygone era.
I love the little pause between 'MIND' and 'THE GAP' in the old announcement. Gets your attention if you were daydreaming. Also... what a state Liverpool Street was in!
This sounds like it was recorded yesterday, and I now I see that 30 years have somehow elapsed. I'm glad someone had the cojones to record all this as it happened. Most folks would ignore the passage of time and pay obeisance to the Great God of getting on with it. Since the age of 3, whenever I heard the word "London", I thought of red buses, green buses, endless parks, eternal avenues of whitewashed or pebble-dashed bay-windowed semis, a parade of HSTs at King's Cross, longer summers, horse chestnut blossom, enigmatic dwarfish silver scurvy-looking tube trains and drab blue moaning EMUS scything through the Surrey clay and chalk.
Just found this. So nostalgic, brings back many memories. Were they going for the Guiness record for number of people in a tube stock driving cab 19:30?
@@chrisavery5980 Automatic RPAs on that stock no need to notchup..Bit of a ruff stop thou using the westinghouse brake and the reason for a slight delay moving off waiting for the air to build back up
WOW...... I found the film SO nostalgic, especially Bank Station which I remember from 40+ years ago.... Thank you Nanna and Grandad for taking me on many occasions, on my holidays. From Brentwood, Essex across London to Waterloo, finally to New Milton, Hampshire.. Wonderful memories.... Thank you for posting this video, allowing me a walk down Memory Lane.
A small number of 62s in good operational condition were transferred to the Northern line after the 1992 stock took over on the Central line. They were combined with the 1959 stock as 3 car half units. They were transferred to the Northern line to chop off the 1972mk1 stock.
@Jonah Kemp the Victoria line has always been automatic control since it opened in the 1960s and 1970s. The 1972mk1 Northern line stock were the seven car crew operated version of the 1967 stock without automatic driving equipment. Some cars were moved into the 1967 fleet but placed in the middle as they did not have automatic driving equipment installed.
A couple of 1959 4 car units were transfered to the Central line & from the Piccadilly Line and coupled to 1962 stock in the mid 1970s I think to make up for damaged ones?
So many people giving the evil eye to the camera (presumbly highly visible on a tripod). Maybe they thought they were going to be on the telly. xD Nowadays if someone's filming with their little device, no-one bats an eyelid. The footage here is so pristine and vibrant, along with the sounds, it's like actually being back there! (minus the musty LU smells, of course.)
@@davetherave3511 from around 1989 London Underground never let any graffiti trains run, they would be taken straight out of service for a jet wash with chemicals, as you see it could leave ghost marks on the panels. But your correct, it never got to the stage that New York suffered.
I realize of course, a train system can't just say to the graffiti - writers, "There's the trains, lads, have at it!" (Ironically, if they _did,_ for a lot of the 'writers' I suspect that would defeat the point!) For me though, the graffiti 'added character'! Even if most people hated it...
Good memories of 1962 Tube Stock (ride in 1980s-1990 from Stratford to London) before my transfer to special senior school in 1990-1995 without travel on trains in Eastern area except southern area. My first travel from southern to eastern in end of 1995 and I was shock saw there was new 1992 tube stock approached at Stratford. 1962 was good for fast but stretched and lights loss. 1992 was good for space and quiet travel without stretched). I watched TV about Northern Line train was looks like 1962 but it was 1959.
Have the original Central Line 'driver's eye view' on DVD. It was only available in that format for a short time to make way for the newer version. Earlier one on DVD is now a collector's item.
I am EXTREMELY fortunate in that recently I managed to find and purchase online the original Central Line Drivers Eye View of the 1962 TS on DVD, it is second-hand but in near mint condition, cost me £30. I also managed to find the original District Line, and H&C Line Driver's Eye View DVD filmed on board the C and D stocks in 1989 long before they were refurbished, this in near mint condition cost me £25; I am blessed.
One day we’ll only be able to see the 1992 trains in photos and videos like these trains. That’s a little bit startling but hey, nothing lasts forever.
@@fetchstixRHD Their replacements are definitely going to have a big set of shoes to fill. Hopefully once they've reached the end of their lifespan on the underground, they might live on by going to the Isle of Wight and doing the railway for 40 more years or so. They'd look good on the Island Line and I'll also be content that there's at least somewhere for me to ride them along with quite a few others. Fingers crossed.
You don't see any of these rickety old "Turbies" on the London Underground network anymore. With their clanky sounded doors when opening and shutting, that drillage sound when they pull away from the station and occasional splattering sound on arrival.
Just look far run down the underground looked back then. And not a oyster card anyone on their mobile phone in site LOL nice to see the old Epping to Ongar train at the end
Cravens 1960 stock with and 1973 stock trailer. Cravens sets were used on Woodford-Hainault shuttle and later on the Epping-Ongar shuttle too. They were also the test bed the Automatic Train Operation system for the Victoria line when it opened.
I still have the original Central Line dvd. I have both releases, but honestly I prefer the 1992 version. So much character, the eerie music, the “Mind the Gap” announcement at Bank, the Ongar branch etc...
6:46 Interesting shot of that Track Recording Train! I thought it'd be in plain white, but appearing like this kind of resembles an 'alternate heritage livery' for the 1959TS. When did it receive its current LU livery?
When these engineering and departmental units suddenly emerge, it makes me wonder what visitors and tourists think? I know it's an engineers train, but seeing a battery loco hauled train go through several years ago with empty ballast wagons drew funny looks at a central london station
The Wanstead platform looks good reminds me of Swiss Cottage on the Jubilee line. Maybe the design odds ageless as Bond Street looked nostalgic and old fashioned although as someone who was a kid in the late 90s/early 00s the aesthetics it had looked interesting and modern to me then.
It hasn't changed a lot, neither has Fairlop, where I grew up. I used to go to school in Wanstead in 1969 and used both stations every day. It's just rather sad to see all the graffiti on the trains nowadays, it's why the unpainted aluminium finish was discontinued.
Great stuff, lots of off-cuts from the original video release, it makes quite a nice addendum. I just noted Video125 were established in 1984. You didn't manage to catch the Class 501s on the North London Line before they were ousted on there in 1985 by any chance? I do know that somebody, somewhere, did a cab ride of the Broad Street - Richmond Line on these in '84, but I cannot find it anywhere; it did exist as a 'Cab Views' series on VHS long ago, I was hoping it might have been filmed by you guys? Thanks for uploading all this great material though.
We really have nothing from the mid 1980s other than the few productions we filmed at the time. Namely Steam to Mallaig, SkyeTrain and HST West. I was still a full time ITV cameraman at that time which drastically limited the time spent filming railways.
@@video125com Hi, many thanks for the reply and no worries at all, it was a shot in the dark really. Interesting - there are some great old Thames News archives on here as well actually (the Aussie firm Freemantle media own all the old Thames catalogue I think, and has been putting loads of rare unseen material up), amongst the mass of news trimmings and offcuts I have found a lot of London Transport/BR related stuff filmed in the 80s.
We re-shot the Central Line Driver's eye view a few years back but we have to charge for it I am afraid. LUL charge us professionals £5 per minute and it takes days to film all the stations etc. We can't just turn up and point a camera on private property without permission like some people do.... The current Central Line is available on DVD, Blu-ray and download. You won't be disappointed.
Because Londoners aren't stupid. Plus the gap is only an issue at the few stations with curved platforms. These platforms were often constructed over 150 years ago and are in daily use- retrofitting would be massively disruptive to hundreds of thousands of journeys every day, for very little benefit.
I think we ran a special and therefore on one run terminated at Liverpool St. One of the crew had the idea of filming it and we have never regretted that unique view.
The current Central line tube stock was designed with high windows to allow passengers to view station names whilst standing. The designers didn't take into account the greenhouse effect whilst running above ground which is the majority of the line. Subsequent stock such as on the Jubilee line have corrected this by designing with very low height windows. Lesson learned but too late for passengers enduring summers over a period of 30 years of service.
The Central Line 62's and the Northern Line 59's, were almost identical in look, but there were a few minor 'in-cab' differences, including the style and location of the twin-indicator air gauges, and the location of the stabling light access hood. With 8 carriages utilising two complete trains on the Central, (2x4 car units) to make one long train, the Northern Line made do with seven carriages for one train. (1x4 car unit + 1x3 car unit.). This wasn't a big deal during normal service but, should a defect occur, consideration needed to be given to the shortcomings in power of the 3 car unit, as it's removed 'fourth carriage' housed a set of motors. You realise you have to learn a few more things from line to line, but it does make for a more interesting time at work. I was grateful to have been a Guard and Motorman on the Central and Northern Lines, working on 1956, 1962, 1959 and 1972 stock trains. Being a part of the London Underground 'machine' was a special time for me and, whatever the future holds for the transport system, its main function will not change. 'Motorman', became 'Train Driver' became 'Train Operator' and, for some, 'Train Operator' became 'Train Captain', a possible hint as to the viability of NOPO. ('No Person Operation' of trains.). NOPO planning will probably identify the need for some serious changes in infrastructure before such a system is introduced, to fully allow risk controls to function. With that in mind, I doubt such a major change will occur for quite, some time.
@@video125com and thank you too, for the post. It's always interesting to see transport videos but, when you've had experience of working on a transport system covered by a documentary, it becomes even more engaging. All the best!
Love this footage, definitely shows how the central line has evolved, I was in London recently and the new stock just doesn’t have this charm that the 62’ stock does.
I was on the central line in September and I have to say I agree. Some parts were incredibly noisy towards the western end going round bends in the tunnel. Excruciatingly so! How do Londoner's put up with that? Maybe I am getting old.
In the beginning kf this video the voice says "Mind the gap" several times. Then he says "Stand clear of the doors please", after the doors actually have closed.
When I was 6-7 years old in 1991, my parents ran the Railway Tavern in Buckhurst Hill, and we lived upstairs. The pub's garden area was separated from Buckhurst Hill tube station platform by a chainlink fence, and every time a train came into the station (I could hear the track noise beforehand), I would run to the fence and watch the train come in. One glorious day, one of the drivers, who was also a regular at the pub, arranged for me to spend the day riding in the cab with him. We even went to Clapham depot and I got shown around. At the end of the day I got a bag full of Underground merchandise (pens, balloons, etc, fucking GOLD to a 6 year old). I'm 34 now, and to this day that is the happiest memory of my life.
Brilliant!
Great memories for you - its good you enjoyed that moment
You're a lucky boy! Just a question, do you now run the pub?
@@MannyAntipov I'm afraid not, we weren't there for long.
I envy you.
This footage is so high quality, it's eerie.
How an earth this quality was possible back then I don't know
@@bucephalus00 It's from 1992.
@@bucephalus00 How? Very expensive cameras the average person couldn’t afford.
Filmed in 1992?! 😯 This is better video quality than some stuff on TH-cam that’s been filmed this year! Amazing!
No strobing, for one thing!
Camera technology was highly advanced in the early 90s. No need to be surprised.
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Thank you Peter for publishing this. I am by no means wide of the mark when I suggest that your title for which this footage was shot helped encourage my interest in the Underground - to the point that I ended up working there, driving A60 stock, and becoming an instructor too. 22 years ago I was a kid in my bedroom watching "Central Driver's Eye View"!
So strange how quiet the tube was them days (sound wise)
The clip at 5:50, nobody talking, no deafening announcements, no clunky Alstom or Bombardier trains, literally just the classic motor whine
People knew where they wanted or had to go in those days, or if they didn't, they could read a map.
@@1paultay yeah right
Music to my ears ! Love the sound of the RPA’s ticking on the 62’s . Proper trains
Absolutely and the MG sets whining too!
Now this train is in free rails of heaven for enternity, C151 trains will meet with 1960/1962 stock trains in Heaven, C151 and 1960/1962 stock in heaven, 1960 stock is better than C Stock, D Stock and 1983 Stock
@@EM-yk1dw Alternators on the 62s
@@paulspeight8398 Ah yes thanks for the correction 😁
This is my favourite all time tube stock, I used to ride these a lot as a small boy in the 60's when we lived at Woodford.
just come across this as I am looking for pictures from the 80's for my artwork. I travelled in those trains from Ealing Broadway to Chancery lane, every day from 1978 to late 1984. A good friend started out as a ticket collector and then Guard and after Driver on these trains. Im saving this and sending it to him.. Great days and it brings back so many memories.. Cheers..
Great stuff, I love that you have all this high quality footage laying around, hope to see more.
I was sad when they replaced the 1930s Art Deco red tubes with these!! The old ones had such dinky lamps and leather straps for standing passengers, very homely they were!!!!
Fantastic footage that evokes a lot of memories and can almost put myself back in that era due to the distinctive sounds those trains made. Almost cognitive like. Thank you for sharing.
16:21 - Shoutout to that kid there, almost missed the train! 😂
He must be about 35 now.
😆
@@video125com Or dead
Time machine needed please!! I would love to go back to the 1980's and very early 1990's. Nostalgia is a powerful thing. Even addictive....
Outstanding quality recording in all manner of ways. Thank you very much for this.
I missed the old central lines, I sat on them 1984 to 1994 since I was baby, just left Walthamstow and left Victoria line ☹️(automatic), moved to leyton and central line was my new line and I got used to them.
I loved the smell of the old tube trains like the central lines
I called the devil trains, I used to be scared, because the lights used to come off and on the tunnel and they getting weaker and I remember on the news one of carriages was left at Bethnal Green, I was scared, lol, but I missed them.
They had a kind of atmosphere of the 1970s, even for those of us who were born in the late 1980s, and just kind of had to imagine what the 1970s were like.
I was 2 years old when this was filmed, strangely enough, I remember so much of it as I used to ride the central line to East Acton with my mum every weekend to stay with my auntie
WOW!!! Still watching through this and just spotted myself at Notting Hill Gate, that was my home station until 96.
Sounds sights and smells of my youth! Great footage, many thanks...
At 0:46, Oswald Lawrence's famous "Mind the Gap" announcement, now well known for only still being in use at Embankment, was in use here on the Central Line at Bank for a short time in the 80's.
It was there for a lot longer!
Brilliant footage! The Central Line DEV is one of my favourite!
Oh ... to have a time machine!
Well done with perfect sound and great quality!
I remember these trains from two visits to London in 1987 when I was a child. I remember the noise from the compressors and the guards standing in an open door when the train left a station.
Great to see old videos that were made before TH-cam and smartphones.
This is some great footage, nicely digitised too, keep them coming 😊
You've done Tracks in 1997 and a remake in 2006 (as a Bonus on The Golden Valley), You've just recently done a Special Tracks DVD of HST's that is not just great to watch but also to hear with the Stereo Sounds. But looking at these London Underground Trains even in the tunnels I think you could have another theme Production of Track's on the cards now. Keep looking through your archives for other outtakes of trains you have filmed because you have gold here. WELL DONE!!!!!
I think two things stand out when compared to other archives on TH-cam. Firstly, because these were legitimate authorised shots, all footage was steady (taken on a tripod rather than hand held). Secondly, even though the picture quality is not up to today's standards, the stereo sound is of broadcast quality, even today. The sounds are very reminiscent of the bygone era.
When I was a kid I always equated the orange lights on the curved roof with the lights on the Dalek's dome.
This should come out onto dvd I love this
Nice train! I real miss this since it is. :(
What a difference 30 years makes
Great to see the old trains
I love the little pause between 'MIND' and 'THE GAP' in the old announcement. Gets your attention if you were daydreaming. Also... what a state Liverpool Street was in!
Central Line was my gateway to London in the early 1980's. Took Met from Uxbridge - Jubilee at Baker Street to Bond Street.
Those were the good ole days
Miss those days when these were operating through the city ,Love the past times ❤️love the Bubble car at 10:00
18:57 I didn't know they had those modern signs in 1992. The tube looks deceptively modern today. Funny how a good design ages well.
This sounds like it was recorded yesterday, and I now I see that 30 years have somehow elapsed.
I'm glad someone had the cojones to record all this as it happened. Most folks would ignore the passage of time and pay obeisance to the Great God of getting on with it.
Since the age of 3, whenever I heard the word "London", I thought of red buses, green buses, endless parks, eternal avenues of whitewashed or pebble-dashed bay-windowed semis, a parade of HSTs at King's Cross, longer summers, horse chestnut blossom, enigmatic dwarfish silver scurvy-looking tube trains and drab blue moaning EMUS scything through the Surrey clay and chalk.
"Scurvy - looking"! HaHa! Great description.
Woah!! Awesome video!!
Just found this. So nostalgic, brings back many memories. Were they going for the Guiness record for number of people in a tube stock driving cab 19:30?
Bob Wood interesting thing was he restarted it by going straight to full parallel, and got away with it!
@@chrisavery5980 Automatic RPAs on that stock no need to notchup..Bit of a ruff stop thou using the westinghouse brake and the reason for a slight delay moving off waiting for the air to build back up
I love the opening shot!
WOW...... I found the film SO nostalgic, especially Bank Station which I remember from 40+ years ago....
Thank you Nanna and Grandad for taking me on many occasions, on my holidays. From Brentwood, Essex across London to Waterloo, finally to New Milton, Hampshire..
Wonderful memories....
Thank you for posting this video, allowing me a walk down Memory Lane.
Oh man, i remember them very well.
Great stuff and great video!
Great video. ☺️
A small number of 62s in good operational condition were transferred to the Northern line after the 1992 stock took over on the Central line. They were combined with the 1959 stock as 3 car half units.
They were transferred to the Northern line to chop off the 1972mk1 stock.
I used to be a guard on those on the Northern line.
@Jonah Kemp the Victoria line has always been automatic control since it opened in the 1960s and 1970s.
The 1972mk1 Northern line stock were the seven car crew operated version of the 1967 stock without automatic driving equipment.
Some cars were moved into the 1967 fleet but placed in the middle as they did not have automatic driving equipment installed.
A couple of 1959 4 car units were transfered to the Central line & from the Piccadilly Line and coupled to 1962 stock in the mid 1970s I think to make up for damaged ones?
Great video
Nice footage!
Strange to think that that kid that stepped out the doors before they closed will be about 35 now.
Or he might be dead 😂
So many people giving the evil eye to the camera (presumbly highly visible on a tripod). Maybe they thought they were going to be on the telly. xD Nowadays if someone's filming with their little device, no-one bats an eyelid.
The footage here is so pristine and vibrant, along with the sounds, it's like actually being back there! (minus the musty LU smells, of course.)
You know it’s old when the trains are in a slightly grotty shade of grey and have that faded London Transport logo on them.
I Love those old trains an ws brought up with them.!!!!
my childhood memories
Great footage, remember that Central Line rolling stock well. But looking rather run down especially with all the graffiti.......
Graffiti is nothing compared to NY subway
@@davetherave3511 from around 1989 London Underground never let any graffiti trains run, they would be taken straight out of service for a jet wash with chemicals, as you see it could leave ghost marks on the panels. But your correct, it never got to the stage that New York suffered.
I realize of course, a train system can't just say to the graffiti - writers, "There's the trains, lads, have at it!" (Ironically, if they _did,_ for a lot of the 'writers' I suspect that would defeat the point!) For me though, the graffiti 'added character'! Even if most people hated it...
@@richiehoyt8487EXACTLY; those who hate it are a bunch of stuffy old conservative knuckle-draggers who belong in the 18th century.
Good memories of 1962 Tube Stock (ride in 1980s-1990 from Stratford to London) before my transfer to special senior school in 1990-1995 without travel on trains in Eastern area except southern area. My first travel from southern to eastern in end of 1995 and I was shock saw there was new 1992 tube stock approached at Stratford. 1962 was good for fast but stretched and lights loss. 1992 was good for space and quiet travel without stretched). I watched TV about Northern Line train was looks like 1962 but it was 1959.
That voice at Bank... I was on the central line in September. The 1992 stock is starting to look as worn as the 1962 stock!
Have the original Central Line 'driver's eye view' on DVD. It was only available in that format for a short time to make way for the newer version. Earlier one on DVD is now a collector's item.
I am EXTREMELY fortunate in that recently I managed to find and purchase online the original Central Line Drivers Eye View of the 1962 TS on DVD, it is second-hand but in near mint condition, cost me £30. I also managed to find the original District Line, and H&C Line Driver's Eye View DVD filmed on board the C and D stocks in 1989 long before they were refurbished, this in near mint condition cost me £25; I am blessed.
I missed my train to Ongar at North Weald but I’ve been waiting for 26 years
That woman running made laugh on the platform at Bond Street, thinking that was the central line service.
It is still operating as the Track Recording Train today.
Love the old trains but how run down everything looks !
Great that you have good quality footage, most people from this era (and even nowadays) use the shittiest cheapest camera they could find.
One day we’ll only be able to see the 1992 trains in photos and videos like these trains. That’s a little bit startling but hey, nothing lasts forever.
I’m trying to imagine the days where people miss the 92ts and complain about the replacement’s “lack of character”...
@@fetchstixRHD Their replacements are definitely going to have a big set of shoes to fill. Hopefully once they've reached the end of their lifespan on the underground, they might live on by going to the Isle of Wight and doing the railway for 40 more years or so. They'd look good on the Island Line and I'll also be content that there's at least somewhere for me to ride them along with quite a few others. Fingers crossed.
The 1992 stock sucks imo
The car body design of the 92 TS is great with it’s glazing curving into the roof. Plus the body profile is better than that of the 1995/96 TS
Is there any chance of more stuff like this?
You don't see any of these rickety old "Turbies" on the London Underground network anymore. With their clanky sounded doors when opening and shutting, that drillage sound when they pull away from the station and occasional splattering sound on arrival.
Awesome
Between 0.50 and 1.00 those classic sounds
Just look far run down the underground looked back then. And not a oyster card anyone on their mobile phone in site LOL nice to see the old Epping to Ongar train at the end
What is the stock at roughly 6.50, with the red bottom-half and Track Recording Car?
Cravens 1960 stock with and 1973 stock trailer. Cravens sets were used on Woodford-Hainault shuttle and later on the Epping-Ongar shuttle too. They were also the test bed the Automatic Train Operation system for the Victoria line when it opened.
The first thing I thought was how few people there were using the tube then compared to now!
it was probably filmed at the weekend.
16:22 lol the kid 😂😂😂
I still have the original Central Line dvd. I have both releases, but honestly I prefer the 1992 version. So much character, the eerie music, the “Mind the Gap” announcement at Bank, the Ongar branch etc...
6:46 Interesting shot of that Track Recording Train! I thought it'd be in plain white, but appearing like this kind of resembles an 'alternate heritage livery' for the 1959TS. When did it receive its current LU livery?
SCP-079 has breached containment
It's still running around the network the TRT
When these engineering and departmental units suddenly emerge, it makes me wonder what visitors and tourists think? I know it's an engineers train, but seeing a battery loco hauled train go through several years ago with empty ballast wagons drew funny looks at a central london station
I Had this on VHS
The Wanstead platform looks good reminds me of Swiss Cottage on the Jubilee line. Maybe the design odds ageless as Bond Street looked nostalgic and old fashioned although as someone who was a kid in the late 90s/early 00s the aesthetics it had looked interesting and modern to me then.
It hasn't changed a lot, neither has Fairlop, where I grew up. I used to go to school in Wanstead in 1969 and used both stations every day. It's just rather sad to see all the graffiti on the trains nowadays, it's why the unpainted aluminium finish was discontinued.
Great stuff, lots of off-cuts from the original video release, it makes quite a nice addendum. I just noted Video125 were established in 1984. You didn't manage to catch the Class 501s on the North London Line before they were ousted on there in 1985 by any chance? I do know that somebody, somewhere, did a cab ride of the Broad Street - Richmond Line on these in '84, but I cannot find it anywhere; it did exist as a 'Cab Views' series on VHS long ago, I was hoping it might have been filmed by you guys? Thanks for uploading all this great material though.
We really have nothing from the mid 1980s other than the few productions we filmed at the time. Namely Steam to Mallaig, SkyeTrain and HST West. I was still a full time ITV cameraman at that time which drastically limited the time spent filming railways.
@@video125com Hi, many thanks for the reply and no worries at all, it was a shot in the dark really. Interesting - there are some great old Thames News archives on here as well actually (the Aussie firm Freemantle media own all the old Thames catalogue I think, and has been putting loads of rare unseen material up), amongst the mass of news trimmings and offcuts I have found a lot of London Transport/BR related stuff filmed in the 80s.
Nice, for back in 1992...any compare and contrast with the lines now??
We re-shot the Central Line Driver's eye view a few years back but we have to charge for it I am afraid. LUL charge us professionals £5 per minute and it takes days to film all the stations etc. We can't just turn up and point a camera on private property without permission like some people do.... The current Central Line is available on DVD, Blu-ray and download. You won't be disappointed.
I did my apprenticeship on the 62 rolling stock good to see they aren't all scrapped yet
This video is from 1992, there's only 3 left now.
I had a mate who worked on this line Steve Dyson anyone know him and if he’s still about on this line
Why doesn’t London Underground have gap fillers like in nyc like 14st on Lexington Avenue line,old south ferry on the 1 train.
Because Londoners aren't stupid. Plus the gap is only an issue at the few stations with curved platforms. These platforms were often constructed over 150 years ago and are in daily use- retrofitting would be massively disruptive to hundreds of thousands of journeys every day, for very little benefit.
proving conclusively that there was life before mobile phones!
This is old footage
It woz very clarty tho...
Wow so quite back then.
Just look how empty those stations are.
Most likely because it was filmed on Sundays, when it's easier to film
10:41 uh is the train actually terminating at Liverpool Street??? The only time Ive seen one terminate there was during the tube strike of 2017
I think we ran a special and therefore on one run terminated at Liverpool St. One of the crew had the idea of filming it and we have never regretted that unique view.
Video 125, is this available on DVD to purchase?
If you go to our website you'll see the original CENTRAL DEV as a download only.
1:18 - 1:21 - Irrelevant I know, but she is gorgeous.
Free rails of heaven, all 1960/1962 stock are moving to heaven like C151 trains
God damn look at that gap
I use the central line regularly now. I wonder if these trains would have been cooler than the current stock, which are like an oven?
The current Central line tube stock was designed with high windows to allow passengers to view station names whilst standing. The designers didn't take into account the greenhouse effect whilst running above ground which is the majority of the line. Subsequent stock such as on the Jubilee line have corrected this by designing with very low height windows. Lesson learned but too late for passengers enduring summers over a period of 30 years of service.
@@video125com interesting…thanks for the info 👍
The Central Line 62's and the Northern Line 59's, were almost identical in look, but there were a few minor 'in-cab' differences, including the style and location of the twin-indicator air gauges, and the location of the stabling light access hood. With 8 carriages utilising two complete trains on the Central, (2x4 car units) to make one long train, the Northern Line made do with seven carriages for one train. (1x4 car unit + 1x3 car unit.). This wasn't a big deal during normal service but, should a defect occur, consideration needed to be given to the shortcomings in power of the 3 car unit, as it's removed 'fourth carriage' housed a set of motors. You realise you have to learn a few more things from line to line, but it does make for a more interesting time at work. I was grateful to have been a Guard and Motorman on the Central and Northern Lines, working on 1956, 1962, 1959 and 1972 stock trains. Being a part of the London Underground 'machine' was a special time for me and, whatever the future holds for the transport system, its main function will not change. 'Motorman', became 'Train Driver' became 'Train Operator' and, for some, 'Train Operator' became 'Train Captain', a possible hint as to the viability of NOPO. ('No Person Operation' of trains.). NOPO planning will probably identify the need for some serious changes in infrastructure before such a system is introduced, to fully allow risk controls to function. With that in mind, I doubt such a major change will occur for quite, some time.
Thanks Max, very interesting.
@@video125com and thank you too, for the post. It's always interesting to see transport videos but, when you've had experience of working on a transport system covered by a documentary, it becomes even more engaging. All the best!
Love this footage, definitely shows how the central line has evolved, I was in London recently and the new stock just doesn’t have this charm that the 62’ stock does.
I was on the central line in September and I have to say I agree. Some parts were incredibly noisy towards the western end going round bends in the tunnel. Excruciatingly so! How do Londoner's put up with that? Maybe I am getting old.
The sound of the train is so calm now its so loud and noisy 😢
How long were they in service?
1962 until 1995. 33 years altogether.
How did the guards know when to close the doors on a curved platform?
The driver would send a signal to the guard, ie a light would illuminate on the guard's control panel.
MIND THE GAP. MIND THE GAP. MIND THE GAP. STAND CLEAR OF THE DOORS PLEASE.
MIND TO THE GAP ;)
@Kyros - the gentleman says an additional 'to', when you listen to the original recording
In the beginning kf this video the voice says "Mind the gap" several times. Then he says "Stand clear of the doors please", after the doors actually have closed.
What was this filmed with? Are you a time traveler?
broadcast equipment at the time...
1:10 to 1:11 never seen that before on the underground
Even more at 9:29
Oh yh 2
The train guards were responsible of operating the doors and I think the last guard position was removed around 2000
It was normal for guards to have doors open whilst the train was moving until the end of the platform.
@@onlinefriend3889 they used to have to stay like that for ¾ of the platform if my memory is correct
At 16:24 that kid seemed very happy to see you filming back then! Wonder where he is now.
Time line is vídeo 1960 or 2022 ?
The Guard! Long since vanished.
is that Liverpool Street or Bank/Monument?
Not a mobile phone in sight! Just newspapers.