I identified as trans for 20 years. Over the last 2 years i have turned my back on the community because they want to refuse the science. So i cut my hair off threwout my clothing and started doing pushups and burpys everyday.. my mental health has improved so much i feel like i can get a job and a girlfriend for the first time in 20 years . 20 years i have been getting it wrong. So. Its definitely a mental health issue. Not a natural state of mind.
@@JamesDean-vl3uf hey James, idk if that's a Internet name, or real, but y'know James Dean was bisexual. To be consistent ya might wanna use another name when commenting on this subject 😏
@@chodeshadar18 not at all, gay lesbian and bisexual is still within the rules of the shape of our brain matter 🤷♂️ as much a choice as skin colour or parents you was born too.. there is a divide in the lgbt community those who understand the T is a mental health issue and those with this,, men and women are the same idea. There is a line. I just hope those on the inside speak up.... probably wont though .
I haven't watched it yet, but regardless of your politics and your reaction, I give +1 for not giving a fuck and just going for it. It shouldn't be that big a big deal to people, we used to be able to have a beer with people in the opposite camp.
I don't even know where the whole Point is in having a conversation if your response to everything i said would be 'yes, i agree with absolutely everything you said', and then, no matter what you said i answer with 'yes, i agree with absolutely everything you said'. I think cleaning windows 5x a week would be more fun and entertaining than that..
Yeah, but it's people like Ben that are directly responsible for people not being able to sit down any longer and just have a nice political discussion. He's not solely responsible, but there's a direct correlation. I'm getting close to old fart status, and you are correct, I remember in the 90s and early 2000s being able to sit at a bar, and disagree on an issue or politician with a stranger sittin' next to me, and have a lively debate about it, taking turns buying rounds. Then at the end of the night give each other a polite tip of the hat, and be on our way. Now a days, you'd be lucky not to get knifed or shot doing that..lol.
ben is a great debater, one could almost say a master....i don't agree with him on everything, but it's always funny watching him own a bunch of kids that think they know everything.
Same. I dont fully subscribe to his views, but man... its incredible to see how quickwitted he is(even when it sometimes fails😀). I wonder how much of it is genetics and how much of it is learned.
@@moneyinso what? maybe he was just wondering if it runs in his family, the quick wits you know? Don’t always have to look for the negative in anything or atleast ask.
@@moneyinso wow 😂 really? You must be really smart. Chances are though if you come from a very distinguished family or a family of educated individuals, you are more likely to become successful and prominent than those who come from an average family, who may only be partially college educated, if at all.
@@TeddieTH-cam Ben isn't saying them being transgender makes up the difference. Rather, that it is a difference which is not solely dependent on bullying (it could be a number of factors which also correlate with them being transgender)
@@crispychimkennuggies5453 but there isn't evidence of that.. which is why when I say Ben implied this, he was wrong to do so, because he doesn't know this for a fact.. and that's a fact..
@@calebgrills9994 I absolutely know what the fuck im talking about.. but here since youre like 15 and a little slow let me help you.. When ben says that Trans people dont need GR they need other mental treatment.. Hes half correct... They need more mental treatement.. How ever GR does not and has never treated suicide. EVEN THE FUCKING STUDY HES REFERING TOO SAYS THIS DELIBRATELY AND HE COMPLETELY FUCKING IGNORES THE STUDYS CONCLUSION "Results The overall mortality for sex-reassigned persons was higher during follow-up (aHR 2.8; 95% CI 1.8-4.3) than for controls of the same birth sex, particularly death from suicide (aHR 19.1; 95% CI 5.8-62.9). Sex-reassigned persons also had an increased risk for suicide attempts (aHR 4.9; 95% CI 2.9-8.5) and psychiatric inpatient care (aHR 2.8; 95% CI 2.0-3.9). Comparisons with controls matched on reassigned sex yielded similar results. Female-to-males, but not male-to-females, had a higher risk for criminal convictions than their respective birth sex controls. Conclusions Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group. This is from the study Long-Term Follow-Up of Transsexual Persons Undergoing Sex Reassignment Surgery: Cohort Study in Sweden. The Lady who lead the study even was pissed off because right wing dipshits like ben shapiro use her study to oppose GR when that wasnt the purpose or finding of the study.. As a matter of fact as you might have read they even say in clear fucking english.. "our finding suggest SR alleviates Gender dysphoria"... Which is what the purpose of Gender reassignment and sexual reassignment.... Thats it, its not a end, all be all to fucking mental health issues.. This is why I seeth at people like Ben because their all dipshits who cant read the introductions to these studies and read headlines and run with it.. and people like you think their fucking insanely smart.
What’s wrong with a transgender girl joining the Boy Scouts. Ben even claims there is a huge difference between men and women. If a girl wants to be a boy and experience the Boy Scout environment then let them 🤦♂️
twitter is like its own self contained septic tank, sometimes it leaks into other stuff, but actual cognitive thinkers manage to clean it up before it spreads...
Alex, love everything you've done, and am extremely proud for you for passing the Bar--it ain't easy. Love for you to react to more Ben and Jordan. You always give credit where credit is due.
Dude I hope you don't get a lot of flack for this because you just don't see people reacting to anything politically charged, especially Ben Shapiro, without getting emotional anymore and it's really cool to watch. Hope you do more
Hahhaa I was about to say! Don’t be afraid to hold back your tongue because you don’t want to pist off anyone! Lol ZOMBIFIED! Let’s go! Enough zombies!
That was so great. Ted Nugent also had a great moment on Piers' show. I am only a mild fan of the way Ted Nugent goes about promoting hunting and 2A and stuff, I think there are more effective ways, but he too has a GREAT moment with Piers Morgan from a while back on his show regarding guns.
@@djjazzyjeff1232 I will have to watch that one. Ben hat some pretty funny moments sometimes. Lol. But the one with Piers was the best I've seen so far.
Dammit I'm so glad you are a logical person! I've been a fan of yours for awhile, but I have been terrified to watch your political videos. Usually, the personalities I enjoy watching turn out to be woke jokes. Most people with a platform fold to the mob. Thanks so much for being a genuine person, Alex.
I am SO IN for you doing more reactions like this! Not necessarily for the sake of the video you’re reacting to, but to see things from the perspective of your “legal mind.” Bravo & encore!
Debating is a lost art form - people just now resort to yelling and screaming when you prove your point with facts and speak clearly about it. Meltdown triggering 🤣
bro, ben shaprio only debates collage students, whenever he has someone on his show that is his age, they always agree with him, and when ben shapiro gets someone on that doesn't agree with him, he gets folded like an omelet
@I don’t even know I don't think so. He's good at debating with anyone. I recommend you to watch him debate Caitlyn Jenner about transgenderism. Someone lost their nerves and "got folded like an omelete" and it wasn't Ben Shapiro.
Bullying affects everyone, I was bullied as a child because I was younger and my dad greased my hair, but that doesn’t make me any less. I had to learn to deal with it the same as these people have to learn to deal with the fact that not everyone is going to like them or agree with them
I was bullied as well. Though for me it wasn't about age or being seen as worthless. I was essentially treated like a circus animal having rocks thrown at me by board assholes who just want to see me act up because they think it's funny.
Appreciate the objective look at an argument on the basis of it being an argument regardless of personal opinion. This is something that's important in the humanities.
He is willing to *talk* around anyone he deems an easy target. That is the clarification many people need made to them about Ben Shapiro. He *talks* but never says anything. Talking over Liberal Arts majors who are still going through University and have never actually taken a class in debate is not a particularly impressive feat in the world of formal debate.
I have not found a single person who cares what sexual orientation other people have as long as they are not trying to force it onto them, and they want to be the center of the universe and they can't handle the fact that they are not better than others and don't deserve special attention and only deserve the same respect as the rest of us no more, no less
Alex. It’s great to discuss this. It does not matter what someone says as long as it’s like this. I appreciate hearing this and discussing this. We need to do more of it. We can all work together. We’re being taught or our younger children are being taught that they’re not allowed to say anything because if their opinion doesn’t go with a group thought… Then they are evil and so is there thinking. That’s crazy. Thank you so much
14:46 - 15:02 you summarized the conversation very well. She did a great job staying calm and respectful, in front of a room with many who disagreed with her to boot, and was asking real questions. I have a lot of respect for her. Her thinking was flawed but I thought Ben was very respectful as well -- never laughed at her, stayed civil, never implied she was stupid just pointed out the flaws in her arguments, and looked for a point of agreement at the end. And that's why I enjoy listening to Ben Shapiro as opposed to some other conservatives who mock those who disagree with them, treat them disrespectfully etc. Plus he does have that super quick mind, always a sight to see since I have what you described and the French have a term for: "L’espirit de l’escalier" ("the wit of the staircase") or the shower in your examplle - heh!
Watching this, as a 58 year old man who is old enough to remember when people weren't too cowardly to speak the truth, or tell someone they were delusional and needed professional help, it is so sad to me when I see people actually surprised when someone confronts an idiot with the obvious. People used to boldly speak the truth, and if that hurt some idiot's precious little feelings that was their problem. It is not our job to play along with someone else's delusion. On a further note. Exactly how healthy (mentally) would you consider someone who would kill themselves because someone else disagreed with them, judged them to be an idiot, or refused to play along with their delusion? No, they did not commit suicide because someone refused to call them a woman when they were obviously a man. They committed suicide because they were mentally ill, and never learned to cope with the realities of life!
I hadn’t seen this particular video with Ben & I appreciate you sharing it. He is a highly intelligent man with a good moral core. Instead of debating him, these kids should be learning from him. I learn something every time I listen to him. I check the facts & he is right on time every time.
@@kero-c8f in the art of debate whats truth and not truth is meaningless. It’s whoever can make their decisive argument the valid argument through the art of debate.
It isn't so much that he 'outsmarts' people, you can do that through circular logic, but that he believes and understands his opponent. That is as important as understanding your own argument.
On this perspective, I'm with Ben on this one. Pro-life. But I give the girl credit for hanging in and trying. She got wrecked, but she stuck in and tried, and didn't flip out. Good on her for that, at least.
In the girl scouts fair defense, I was in boy scouts and my sister was in girl scouts and she insisted I got to do the fun stuff. During summer camp we would shoot bows arrows and learn how to hunt and sleep outside on a sleeping bag under the stars. After coming home from camp I told her all the things I did and she insisted the girl scouts was boring and she wishes she could join. Upon asking my scout master if she could he said no because you have to be a boy to be in the boy scouts. I asked at 8 years old where it was written and he also said " in the name BOY scout" and pointed it out on our books.
For me, abortion boils down to a single question: Why is murder considered so heinous? Because a murder destroys any future that person had. The memories they would create with others, the impact they'd have on people and the world, the potential that they had. Abortion does the same exact thing. A fetus is a developing human. Killing that fetus destroys any future that person may have had. It's the same reason why miscarriages are so devastating.
Pretty much. To me, the argument of whether it is murder or not is cut and dry, it's obviously murder. People just like to play games because they refuse to admit that they like to quantify the value of human life between humans based solely on "potential." I'm sure that plenty of geniuses that could have benefitted mankind far more than their parents ever could were wrongfully terminated before birth because their parents took it upon themselves to rank their lives and comfort more than human life and ended them for it. I'd honestly argue that it's a fine example of universal morality that most people share...no one thinks it's fair that someone else decides their fate for them. Who cares if they were in the womb or 30 years old when some random person decided to take their life?
Who says that "developing" human being is a human being, that is the ONLY thing it boils down to, the determination of when life begins. Religious folks that are big anti-abortionists should pay attention to their bible, because the god in their book says life doesn't start until the infant is outside of the womb breathing air. I'm not religious, so that part there doesn't matter to me, but the the heart isn't fully developed until after the 20th week, the brain, and other vital organs after that, so before 20 weeks, the fetus has no functioning heart no brain to hold memories. And 97.6% of all abortions in the U.S. happen at or before the 20th week. 20 weeks is also the time period where they can test the fetus to see if it will have any defects or diseases if it goes to term. If you know that future, the one you speak of, is going to be full of struggle and pain and suffering from an uncurbable disease, then what? You don't think the future mother of that suffering human being, should have any say, or not be able to choose not let that happen? Where's the cut off at too, on when life begins, and who gets to decide? I mean if you're considering the basis as just "potential life" then if abortion is made illegal, then masturbation for men should be illegal, I mean that's in the ballpark of 100million lives each time you blow load into your sock, that's a LOT of potential lives being killed.
@@sunshynff Basic biology says life begins at conception. So does the vast majority of Christian denominations. So do the vast majority of religions. The only people who question when life begins are amoral liberals who want to murder a baby because they were too stupid or lazy to use easily available and cheap birth control. Also, way to point to the most extreme case to make your point. That means you don't really have one and you know it. The 99% of abortions aren't done for health reasons, nor rape or any other reason beyond "I was too dumb not to use birth control."
Your framing is only taking into account the future, not the past of the person. Disregarding morality for a second, and looking at it purely "mechanically", a person at any age past 0 will have friends, loved ones, have had impact on other people's lives and matter to them. If that person died, it would also impact the wider world around them, which is also part of why murder is so harmful, as it not only cuts off that person's future, but also damages their social surroundings probably irreparably, to an extent depending on how connected they have been of course. In that particular sense, the abortion issue is a "cleaner" process, where the only people really involved are the parents, and the child, insofar as it could or should be considered as such at the stage of its development. Most people will agree* with disallowing abortion after a certain point, I believe mainly around the time where the child forms a nervous system and can experience pain and some form of memory or identity building or something. So to do with how the abortion would impact the child itself. I personally have no deeper understanding, but that is how it appears to me, and as far as that is factual, that would be my personal boundaries around accepting the practice, as long as the child, or child-to-be, doesn't feel pain or loses what it has not yet gained. Morally speaking, certainly I would like there to be good reasons though, such as being a rape victim I child born from that might grow up being resented by its mother, fatherless and it would also deeply affect the child psychologically whenever it eventually finds out about where it came from (being born from hatred so to speak, not love.) Another instance that I would condemn socially, with regards to its circumstances, but understand the reasoning in that case, would be something like teen pregnancy, where there is maybe no supporting family that could take care of the child, and where the mother is financially and personally (due to lack of age and maturity) unable to really do that.
@@holysecret2 I agree with most of what you said, but unfortunately as a society we have to put morality aside and choose one way or another. Morality is a very personal thing, it's an individualistic virtue, and it can be very subtly different like you explaining where you'd like to see the line drawn. You could have two pro choice people that have feel almost the same way about abortions but have slightly different morals on it. One may be a firm no on any termination past the first trimester, bit for any reason, too young, rape, whatever, and he next door neighbor and good friend could be a hard no on rape cases because she says it's not the child's fault, but is ok with up to 3rd trimester if the mothers life is in danger. When a group of people, community or society unofficially agree on something, or certain "unwritten rules" develop, those are considered ethical beliefs. The famous example is the drowning baby in the fountain. There's no laws on the books in most towns that state specifically you have to save a baby if one were to fall in a fountain and is drowning, but if a baby did fall in the town fountain and the mother couldn't be found, probably 99%, hopefully all, of the people in that town would consider it unethical not to help, or agree that it would be your civic duty as a good citizen and human being to save the baby. Then when an ethical belief gets more wide spread, and to the point people dissect it and decide where that line is in that particular ethical situations, they vote on where that line should be, and create a punishment if it is crossed or broken, and we then call it a law. I think that's why abortion is one of the biggest hot button debates, because it's such a diverse subject with moving parts, and people get their morality and ethical beliefs all tangled up in the law and it's hard to get a general consensus.
Bullying isn’t a factor because the reaction to the bullying is a big part of the disorder. As Ben pointed out , other bullied groups and individuals don’t commit suicide at anywhere near the rate transgender people do. And as Ben mentioned, bullying generally doesn’t cause suicidal tendencies. We are living in the most accepting time for Transgender people in history and the suicide rate remains the same
Here's what I think didn't get addressed. For those that "commit suicide because of the bullying" - well, did they get taught effective coping mechanisms and how to deal with adversity? Seems to me that the way to address people who would commit suicide is to teach them how to effectively cope and deal, especially with negative emotions. Not asking society to bend over and be more kind and all that. That's out of the individual's control.
The reaction to bullying is not a part of gender dysphoria.. DYSPHORIA IS THEM being uncomfortable with them selves. And even if transgender have a higher suicide rate that doesn't correlate that transitioning doesn't help or that affirmation doesn't help. Which is what he implies he saying they don't need gender reassignment they need something else. Which is what the author of that study is upset about when people like Ben push a narrative that these GRs don't work
@@TeddieTH-cam well, if the studies show that the GRs aren't causing the numbers to shift the other way enough, it's plausible for Ben to suggest that they need something else. Because on paper, statistically, GR isn't improving the numbers enough. He's against the notion that GR will simply fix their problems, and thus uses the numbers to show that. Because he doesn't want those afflicted to buy into the notion that it's something similar to a magic pill that's going to fix things. That's not to say GR doesn't work for some. Blaire White seemed to have benefited. My understanding is that she did take the time to carefully consider why she's doing it. She made an informed decision, and considered the risk to reward. As opposed to someone who thinks that GR will simply solve their problems.
@@JiraiyaSama86 people don't get GRs to prevent suicide my guy they get it to elevate gender dysphoria... Which is ABSOLUTELY vanishes after GR... So why would you try to suggest another tool for the job it doesn't achieve.. that's like using a drill for digging after you just got done shoveling a hole... You're trying to fix something..by taking away the thing that already fixed a previous issue... What type of fucking sense does that make?????
Bullying is truly a terrible thing I was born with cataracts, and have experienced it first hand I never felt bad I just got angry But wanting to stop people from being jerks is the same thing as saying we can control the way parents raise their kids We simply can’t One of the best political quotes I have ever heard, came from Ross Perot We can never make people do the right thing We can only punish them after they have done the wrong thing How true Keep up the great work, Alex
You’re right. I watched. I thought just from little clips that show that he’s more pushy but after watching three or four videos I realize that he only gets that way when someone does it to him. He was actually enjoying his conversation with this young lady and you’re right he was respectful to her
The latter is a thing I think about whenever I hear people just go on about "UUUHHHH the Dunning-Kruger Effect". Not everything can simply be classed as either absolute or a non-entity. Often with even hypermetrically measured variables there is an allowance.
The way I look at stuff like this is that you should be more than free to make whatever choices you want to make in life but you should be more than willing to deal with the outcome of those choices whether the outcome is good, bad, or in between.
Its nice to see for a change a "touchy" topic be handled with maturity, allowing proper discussion without childish insulting and blind bias of a one sided view, refusing to even consider the opposing side. This is very rare these days, and attempts to discuss usually are toxic, immature, and ignorant spouting off of people without actually thinking about the issue properly. With that in mind for what its worth, thank you to the video host AND the people commenting for maintaining a proper atmosphere of discussion. Apparently you have some good minds following your channel. This type of discussion and environment has the potential to accomplish good things, I hope it continues and helps people who struggle to remain objective and use reasoning before commenting harmful nonsense learn from the examples of all you guys. Good day to everyone and thanks for keeping it clean and rational
“If you are picking a fight with Ben Shapiro, prepare to lose!” It really is just that simple! “Why aren’t you 60?” She never saw that curveball coming and had no legitimate argument out of that box. I’m sure plenty of people believe they have a solid Monday Morning Quarterback response but I’m guessing it wouldn’t stand up to the reality test.
"Facts don't care about your feelings." - Tom MacDonald When I was a kid, living in a neighborhood of about 20 kids from 5-18, it wasn't bullying, it was establishing a pecking order. Something which sustained human societies for tens of thousands of years. In my neighborhood, you had your fists, your teeth and your heart. Which of those you were willing to sacrafice determined where you were placed in the chain. And once established, those above you would be your biggest defender, because you were a member of that clan. Folks above me in our clan actually protected us from bullies. And we did the same in kind for those below us. I'm 51, grew up in a mixed neighborhood and I'm 1 generation out of the trailer park. I feel no shame for it.
@@mcseforsale No, I am saying that MacDonald is quoting Ben Shapiro when he makes that statement. Ben Shapiro’s calling card is Facts don’t care about feelings.
@@PixlerPerspective I'm pretty sure Shapiro didn't coin that saying, but, OK. Fake Woke - Tom MacDonald. Less people see Ben, and I'd rather they see Tom's vijeo. Ben is a sage. As is Tom. Tom has come up with a LOT of lyrical truth...even though he's a Canadian! LOL. Ben is just a genius that knows no limits. I loved seeing him appear before congress. He's a BEAST!
@@mcseforsale No Ben actually coined the phrase. “On July 17th, 2015, Ben Shapiro appeared on the American current affairs program Dr. Drew on Call to discuss Caitlyn Jenner, who at the time had recently come out as transgender. When others on the panel criticized Shapiro for disregarding Jenner's personal pronouns. He responded, "Forget about the disrespect: facts don't care about your feelings." The clip received more than 8.2 million views on TH-cam after HLN published the video. This is the earliest known example of Shapiro using the phrase.” After that cultural moment, conservatives started using the phrase like gangbusters and it became a mantra for folks on the right.
New subscriber here😊 Love watching Ben Shapiro because he uses logic and facts not emotion to get his point across. And I liked your reaction to this video and your viewpoints was interesting
Alex gets really excited and impressed over basic vocabulary words lol… “malleable” ::pause:: holy mother of god dude!!! He’s so precise!! 😂. I like it.
@@RJWaynerium That the people he debates are college kids and none of them are actually really good advocates or good debaters for their rhetoric.. its like playing basketball with a high school student as a first grader. No shit youre gonna look bad.. And youre gonna make others advocating from your side look bad.. Just all around idiotic.. Good rhetoric though thats why ben looks so great. But all of his ideas are fucking retarded. And make no sense. Unless I was retarded. Then maybe they would
@@ghostofsilence2697 Seder is formidable, Vaush is parrot who squawks to his followers. I'd put way for confidence in Destiny before Vaush. Not sure about you, but you seem confident enough.
No matter what, let people believe what they want to believe as long as it falls under very basic morality. If you don't agree with something someone believes and that thing you disagree with isn't hurting anyone, than maybe it's best you ignore them entirely and they ignore you.
@@Dadflinn92 not trying to shut down your claim, but I am genuinely curious, who is it hurting? And is their pain justified or just a way of gathering attention?
@@Nepu_Nep it is starting an entire culture shift. On individual levels it's not really a big deal. But when it becomes such a large movement and people who don't agree with it are treated as hateful people it becomes harmful.
@@brianyager4712 True, I'm half black, have high functioning autism and have been took the piss out of for all of it irl and the internet and even laughed at comedians on the subjects and respected peoples opinions. No one ever cared. But when when I expect the same back with my own opinions I'm treat like the second coming of Hitler. Even though I'm not even transphobic, only disagree on when people want biological men to fight women.
That's a good view to have and one I share. His response would be, aborting a baby at 9 months IS harm. And giving a child hormone blockers IS harm. Thats his argument. And it's tough to disagree. I dont think 9 month abortions should be legal, but I am pro choice. What woman needs 9 months to make up her mind? The point at which a child will survive outside the womb without medical aid, thats murder, to me. And giving a child life changing medication when they aren't old enough to understand what the consequences are, is child abuse to me. Adults is a different thing. They can choose. I've lived long enough to know that almost every decision I made until my thirties was a bad one. But I didn't know that then. You change so much as you age. You learn so much with every passing year, not just about the workd but about yourself. You're still growing into your own skin in yoyr twenties. How can you decide at 10, that you want to make a decision that WILL alter your entire existence? There's no way you can know thats the right thing to do.
You just took another step up in my book. I don't agree with everything you say but I subscribe because you are real and care about people. You use your channel for entertainment and to be positive. Rock on man!
The only thing that makes Ben Shapiro a good arguer is the speed with which he talks and the confidence with which he can say the stupidest things. His arguments aren't educated and they aren't eloquent. But he does do a good job of making himself sound like they were. It's difficult to argue against him, if you're not ready for him, because he'll throw a lot of fallacies, false equivalences and non sequiturs at you. And I'm disappointed that you fell for his schtick, Alex. If you want to see a true rhetoric master, I recommend checking out any debate by the late Christopher Hitchens.
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I love the fact that he is only looking for honesty. He embraces it and allows it to speak it's mind, no matter who is saying it. But it seems to me that the majority of people who converse with him, even those that agree, totally miss that simple fact.
So do i, but I suspect if it hadn't gone to extreme, up to 9 months, then he probably wouldn't be so vocal. As usual, every action has an equal and opposite reaction. One extreme leads to the opposite.
Is it Justice and Right to hold an innocent human being responsible, and executed, for the choices or crimes of another human being? Why should a baby starved, torn apart, burned alive, injected with poison, and be killed for the choices of his parents? What crime did the baby commit to deserve such a horrific fate?
@@boudecia22 His opposition to abortion is religion based and from watching his videos he is opposed to it full stop.. I think Dave Chappelle's monologue on abortion was correct.
Digging these videos dude. Love him or hate him, Ben is far smarter than anyone on the modern left. That's why he's a target by so many. Keep an open mind Alex!
Congrats on your ability to stipulate that you can find someone's capacity to argue a point interesting without agreeing with them. That makes you a rare breed these days. Keep it on
Regardless of the arguments being presented, i really enjoyed this 'new category' of reactions. Really enjoyed learning from your breakdown of the arguments presented. Also, like him or hate him Ben Shapiro is a beast in debates- quick, knows seemingly unending amount of scientific data, and honestly treats people with tolerance and respect regardless of the view they present during discussions.
I used to be pro choice until I saw one of those videos when they did abortion and you could see the baby fighting off the vacuum thingy and just losing an arm, then starting to kick to trying to get away and sloop there went the leg and so on until it lost the battle
So Sad....utterly heartbreaking.....And these deranged criminals get to have a say!!?? This is beyond inhuman... To hell with their God damn "choice"..
If it's the video I think you're referring to and that's what changed your mind, it's very clear that you not only took it at face value but also don't comprehend the procedure itself and why it's done. I'll never try to change someone's mind on the subject itself but for the love of God, people need to actually read more about abortions and fully understand every aspect of them. Having one is not a decision taken lightly by women nor are they used as a firm of birth control like extreme pro lifers claim it is.
I absolutely do agree that Ben Shapiro is a good debater, even though his views are disgusting. The main issue I have with this debate is that he’s debating with someone who doesn’t have that skill. She doesn’t know how to make claims from a scientific or philosophical stance, only emotional. Shapiro is 100% wrong here, but he’s a better speaker, and so he “won.”
Um no Ben is 100 % percent here and if you think his views are "disgusting" than you're too soft a person to gave a political debate with. Don't come at me with religion crap either. I share his religious views but he's still usually right about everything else
@@inkarceration4069 On the topic of transgender people I recognize that he’s better than some, in that he at least acknowledges that they’re people, but he’s still incorrect. Ironically I think he bases his views on his own feelings and biases. Personally I try to look at it scientifically and philosophically. I’d be happy to give you some examples if you want to hear them. (For transparency’s sake, I’m an atheist but that doesn’t make an appreciable impact on my views)
@@gk7754 I agree that they’re fairly normal, which is unfortunate. On the note of capital punishment, I’m entirely against it. I get the mentality of wanting to put mean bastards in the dirt, or simply not wanting tax dollars to go towards housing scum of the earth. The problem is wrongful conviction is a very very real thing. Even if the chances are slim, I’d rather my tax dollars be spent on keeping a bastard in jail than entertain the possibility of them being used to kill an innocent person. Shapiro’s (and indeed a lot of right wing people’s) “the ends justifies the means” mentality is disgusting to me.
@@gk7754 I agree that they’re fairly normal, which is unfortunate. On the note of capital punishment, I’m entirely against it. I get the mentality of wanting to put mean bastards in the dirt, or simply not wanting tax dollars to go towards housing scum of the earth. The problem is wrongful conviction is a very very real thing. Even if the chances are slim, I’d rather my tax dollars be spent on keeping a bastard in jail than entertain the possibility of them being used to kill an innocent person. Shapiro’s (and indeed a lot of right wing people’s) “the ends justifies the means” mentality is disgusting to me.
Super late comment here, but I've been super happy to see you and other content creators engaging in these dialogues - politics or controversy aside, I think it's really important to be able to consider varied perspectives and listen, debate, learn, and so on. Thanks for sharing!
I hate an ultra conservative, toxic masculinity and extreme religion and he is all three. Yes he is great with words and is able to eloquently speak his strong opinions against people that usually aren’t good with words and aren’t good at explaining their opinions. And all that doesn’t make him right. 🏳️⚧️ love wins.
I agree with you Alex, the bullying definitely would cause a change in that number, I wish Ben would have acknowledged that during this. Although he is right, the discrepancy would still be very large regardless
@@ericsvoboda8906 Exactly, everyone gets bullied and harassed throughout life, the question to ask is *Why* the rate of suicide is 10x higher and *what* the increased rate is caused by. Claiming the world needs to change how we as individuals speak just to accommodate 00000.01% of the total population is insane.. thats like ignoring 9 of your kids needs and only focusing on 1.
ALSO- he is the one asking to change the situation re: abortion, not her or them. Every woman has to have rights to their body for WHATever reason. Some girls make mistakes and some boys make mistakes at young ages- some people cant afford babies and get pregnant while using birth control. You should never bring a life into this world that you can’t afford.
I agree with you completely bro, you shouldn’t bring a life that you can’t afford into this world. But, if you accidentally do, is it really ok just to kill it off for your own sake?
I would recommend everyone to watch his debate with Anna Kasparian (The Young Turks) they agree on a surprising amount and was actually enjoyable to watch!
@@darkphoenix2 Less impressive? How? He would still school 90% of people here and has taken the scalps of TYT hosts before. Cenk Yoghurt comes to mind.
I stopped watching Shapiro when he was invited on another person's podcast, he did no research on the person and he looked like a total snowflake when he was called out on some of his points. I've grown a lot since I first started getting into politics and I definitely am more in the middle now. Both sides royally fucking suck. I get called a liberal when calling out my former side and called racist when calling out the left lol.
In fairness, Ben Shapiro has owned up to that interview and has admitted that it was not a good moment for him. He cited that podcast and the interview with Andrew Neil as being low moments in his career.
@@kylemiller8040 I get that and no one is perfect but if you're gonna call people snowflakes because they get owned by facts and then you turn around and do the same thing, I lose interest personally. That's why you do your research and I know Ben was smart enough to know that.
@@eobardthawne7851 I think it depends on the frequency and consistency. I don't particularly like Shapiro anymore either, and that interview was absolutely embarrassing for him, but has it happened again? Does he keep doing it? Or did he just have a really bad day?
I think if you're going to consider the "bully" argument, you'd probably have to look at what % of bullied kids commit suicide. The difference in number there just seems to high for bullying to be a major factor. As someone who isn't transgender though, I obviously haven't experienced what it feels like
Yeah it's difficult to tell honestly, you can only assume how much each factor plays a part. My understanding of transgenders is that they genuinely feel like they identify with the opposing sex more strongly than the one they were biologically born with, so being bullied for that makes you feel like your entire being and concept of self is being questioned and you feel extremely alienated. Adding on to that, a large number of transgenders also struggle with their family not accepting them for who they want to be, when family should be atleast some kind of safe haven where you can truly feel respected and loved for who you are, or want to be. All of this together likely plays a massive part on the suicide rates. It's not correct to call it a mental illness at all, and based on these prior observations I don't think that is the cause for the higher rates. There used to be a time when homosexuality was also considered a mental illness. Times change and people, hopefully, can be more understanding. Ben Shapiro can sound smart and witty in his argument, but he often misses a lot of important key points.
It's bound to be a factor in individual suicides among trans people, but without other unique factors coming into play, it wouldn't account for the much higher numbers overall, because bullying affects people across the board in society and so from a logical point of view it does nothing to explain that disparity. It does probably exacerbate whatever other factors contribute to the suicide rate, but eventually you'd have to concede that it's those other factors that are more likely to be the main causes of higher rates.
@@jonathanzytkoskee9740 Like when he tells people to sell thier beachfront property to just sell when global warming puts it underwater? And to Aquaman as bomberguy would say presumably. Or how he's constantly wrong about basic shit and just rides with it as if he didn't just open faced lie to his entire audiance.
I think you're right, bullying has to be a factor in transgender suicidality, but it's definitely far smaller than they'd like you to believe. They're trying to blame everything on bullying and ignore everything else that is going on
The thing for me is that people across the board have committed suicide from being bullied. The question I ask is, is there some unique factor to the trans people that are committing suicide that isn't found (or largely found) in other people.
@@jamesdaniels8007 Yes for sure there is. Gender Dysphoria is a mental illness, so to ignore that as a factor is plain wrong. The suicide rate in transgender community is around 40% I believe, which implies that there is a serious issue that isn't being factored. What that issue is exactly I don't know, but there definitely is something
He is fast-talking and good at quickly distracting from weak spots in his arguments. His reasoning about suicide statistics has as many holes as swiss cheese, for example - he is bordering on plain lying there.
He’s neither logical or intelligent. He is a good debater, no one is taking that away from him. But you can be good at debating while still being wrong
@@hitthegoat Nope, literally not how it works, if you do not have facts on your side, which he does, he literally cites his sources, which the left NEVER does, cause they have none.
"He has the mind of every person in the shower" man, that's a quote lol
I’m stealing that line!
Alex you have guts man, I would love to see more reactions like this
Agreed!!!
For sure!!!
Yep this was good
I would too.
Very good video.
I identified as trans for 20 years. Over the last 2 years i have turned my back on the community because they want to refuse the science. So i cut my hair off threwout my clothing and started doing pushups and burpys everyday.. my mental health has improved so much i feel like i can get a job and a girlfriend for the first time in 20 years
. 20 years i have been getting it wrong. So. Its definitely a mental health issue. Not a natural state of mind.
May God bless you and may the peace of God surround you like a shield.❤️
Welcome back to the State of Sanity👏
So happy for you! so is Jesus Christ!
@@JamesDean-vl3uf hey James, idk if that's a Internet name, or real, but y'know James Dean was bisexual. To be consistent ya might wanna use another name when commenting on this subject 😏
@@chodeshadar18 not at all, gay lesbian and bisexual is still within the rules of the shape of our brain matter 🤷♂️ as much a choice as skin colour or parents you was born too.. there is a divide in the lgbt community those who understand the T is a mental health issue and those with this,, men and women are the same idea. There is a line. I just hope those on the inside speak up.... probably wont though .
"In the name boyscouts" what always gets me about that video is not his answer but the absolute death stare
I haven't watched it yet, but regardless of your politics and your reaction, I give +1 for not giving a fuck and just going for it. It shouldn't be that big a big deal to people, we used to be able to have a beer with people in the opposite camp.
I don't even know where the whole Point is in having a conversation if your response to everything i said would be 'yes, i agree with absolutely everything you said', and then, no matter what you said i answer with 'yes, i agree with absolutely everything you said'.
I think cleaning windows 5x a week would be more fun and entertaining than that..
Yeah, but it's people like Ben that are directly responsible for people not being able to sit down any longer and just have a nice political discussion. He's not solely responsible, but there's a direct correlation. I'm getting close to old fart status, and you are correct, I remember in the 90s and early 2000s being able to sit at a bar, and disagree on an issue or politician with a stranger sittin' next to me, and have a lively debate about it, taking turns buying rounds. Then at the end of the night give each other a polite tip of the hat, and be on our way. Now a days, you'd be lucky not to get knifed or shot doing that..lol.
One of those camps has embraced white supremacy and tried to overthrow our democracy... so no. I will not have a beer with those people.
@@ericmicke4130 white supremacy?? BEN?? Wrong, again.
@@karenc560 take another stab at reading my comment before you tell me I'm wrong.
Facts dont care about your feelings !
Ben is one of a kind!
Cool reaction!
ben is a great debater, one could almost say a master....i don't agree with him on everything, but it's always funny watching him own a bunch of kids that think they know everything.
Same. I dont fully subscribe to his views, but man... its incredible to see how quickwitted he is(even when it sometimes fails😀). I wonder how much of it is genetics and how much of it is learned.
@@HAbarneyWK "Genetics" Jewish lawyer stereotype
@@moneyinso what? maybe he was just wondering if it runs in his family, the quick wits you know? Don’t always have to look for the negative in anything or atleast ask.
@@JOKICisdGOAT You can't inherit high intelligence from genetics
@@moneyinso wow 😂 really? You must be really smart. Chances are though if you come from a very distinguished family or a family of educated individuals, you are more likely to become successful and prominent than those who come from an average family, who may only be partially college educated, if at all.
His point isn’t that bullying isn’t necessarily a factor, he’s just saying that bullying isn’t the 36% difference.
And nothing links that them being transgender is the difference either but that's what Ben is inferring
@@TeddieTH-cam Ben isn't saying them being transgender makes up the difference. Rather, that it is a difference which is not solely dependent on bullying (it could be a number of factors which also correlate with them being transgender)
@@crispychimkennuggies5453 but there isn't evidence of that.. which is why when I say Ben implied this, he was wrong to do so, because he doesn't know this for a fact.. and that's a fact..
@@TeddieTH-cam your comment doesn’t make sense stop trying so hard dude or at least understand what you’re talking about….
@@calebgrills9994 I absolutely know what the fuck im talking about.. but here since youre like 15 and a little slow let me help you.. When ben says that Trans people dont need GR they need other mental treatment.. Hes half correct... They need more mental treatement.. How ever GR does not and has never treated suicide. EVEN THE FUCKING STUDY HES REFERING TOO SAYS THIS DELIBRATELY AND HE COMPLETELY FUCKING IGNORES THE STUDYS CONCLUSION
"Results
The overall mortality for sex-reassigned persons was higher during follow-up (aHR 2.8; 95% CI 1.8-4.3) than for controls of the same birth sex, particularly death from suicide (aHR 19.1; 95% CI 5.8-62.9). Sex-reassigned persons also had an increased risk for suicide attempts (aHR 4.9; 95% CI 2.9-8.5) and psychiatric inpatient care (aHR 2.8; 95% CI 2.0-3.9). Comparisons with controls matched on reassigned sex yielded similar results. Female-to-males, but not male-to-females, had a higher risk for criminal convictions than their respective birth sex controls.
Conclusions
Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group.
This is from the study Long-Term Follow-Up of Transsexual Persons Undergoing Sex Reassignment Surgery: Cohort Study in Sweden. The Lady who lead the study even was pissed off because right wing dipshits like ben shapiro use her study to oppose GR when that wasnt the purpose or finding of the study.. As a matter of fact as you might have read they even say in clear fucking english.. "our finding suggest SR alleviates Gender dysphoria"... Which is what the purpose of Gender reassignment and sexual reassignment.... Thats it, its not a end, all be all to fucking mental health issues.. This is why I seeth at people like Ben because their all dipshits who cant read the introductions to these studies and read headlines and run with it.. and people like you think their fucking insanely smart.
When Ben is on a roll, he’s basically a car going 100 miles an hour downhill with no brakes, he’s not stopping, absolutely a legend imo
Downhill with no brakes but crashes hard when met with anyone who isn't a college kid
@@theunbeatable6598 not even true lol
@@MrDarkness4 it is
@@theunbeatable6598 no
@@MrDarkness4 it is
Bold move man! Refreshing to hear a normal person react rationally to something like this. Even keeled and honest. Thanks for the breath of fresh air.
What’s wrong with a transgender girl joining the Boy Scouts. Ben even claims there is a huge difference between men and women. If a girl wants to be a boy and experience the Boy Scout environment then let them 🤦♂️
I’m for it. I’m actually surprised how many people are on board for these videos. I guess Twitter isn’t the voice of the majority…
twitter is like its own self contained septic tank, sometimes it leaks into other stuff, but actual cognitive thinkers manage to clean it up before it spreads...
It never has been, it's a microcosm separated from reality. Most of us don't use Twitter at all lol
no neither is the propaganda from cnn, msnbc, or your average universities dept. of safe spaces or whatever
Not anymore. We can have long form discussions and discuss it and debate it but this dude is A SAVAGE. ID HAVE TO SLAP BEEN TO WIN THE ARGUEMENT
Twitter is not real life
Alex, love everything you've done, and am extremely proud for you for passing the Bar--it ain't easy.
Love for you to react to more Ben and Jordan. You always give credit where credit is due.
Dude I hope you don't get a lot of flack for this because you just don't see people reacting to anything politically charged, especially Ben Shapiro, without getting emotional anymore and it's really cool to watch. Hope you do more
Might be zombified?? :D
Dude…
Hahhaa I was about to say! Don’t be afraid to hold back your tongue because you don’t want to pist off anyone! Lol ZOMBIFIED! Let’s go! Enough zombies!
All I got to say is fuck the haters we don't need them anyway.
@AKA Loretta hahaha awww we got a zombie yall!
Bro… just when I thought your content couldn’t get better. Keep doing you man, don’t let haters stop you from doing what you wanna do here
Please do the one with Ben giving Piers Morgan a copy of the constitution. I fell out of my chair
That was so great. Ted Nugent also had a great moment on Piers' show. I am only a mild fan of the way Ted Nugent goes about promoting hunting and 2A and stuff, I think there are more effective ways, but he too has a GREAT moment with Piers Morgan from a while back on his show regarding guns.
@@djjazzyjeff1232 I will have to watch that one. Ben hat some pretty funny moments sometimes. Lol. But the one with Piers was the best I've seen so far.
Yes, they were debating gun control. That was actually the interview that made Shapiro.
Alex Jones and Piers Morgan is awesome.
Dammit I'm so glad you are a logical person! I've been a fan of yours for awhile, but I have been terrified to watch your political videos. Usually, the personalities I enjoy watching turn out to be woke jokes. Most people with a platform fold to the mob. Thanks so much for being a genuine person, Alex.
I am SO IN for you doing more reactions like this! Not necessarily for the sake of the video you’re reacting to, but to see things from the perspective of your “legal mind.” Bravo & encore!
Debating is a lost art form - people just now resort to yelling and screaming when you prove your point with facts and speak clearly about it. Meltdown triggering 🤣
It really is a lost art. Did you know debating used to be an Olympic discipline in ancient Greece?
bro, ben shaprio only debates collage students, whenever he has someone on his show that is his age, they always agree with him, and when ben shapiro gets someone on that doesn't agree with him, he gets folded like an omelet
@@CrystlClr404 ...I don't think so....He debates with many others and he still wipes the floor with them, nice try though...
@I don’t even know I don't think so. He's good at debating with anyone. I recommend you to watch him debate Caitlyn Jenner about transgenderism. Someone lost their nerves and "got folded like an omelete" and it wasn't Ben Shapiro.
She keeps reaching and reaching because the left just has to be always right.
I love that you are branching out. I watch for your positive energy . Keep it up.
Bullying affects everyone, I was bullied as a child because I was younger and my dad greased my hair, but that doesn’t make me any less. I had to learn to deal with it the same as these people have to learn to deal with the fact that not everyone is going to like them or agree with them
I was bullied as well. Though for me it wasn't about age or being seen as worthless. I was essentially treated like a circus animal having rocks thrown at me by board assholes who just want to see me act up because they think it's funny.
Great vid Alex, I love your way of thinking since its so close to mine, and I agree that discussion over necessary consensus is essential
Appreciate the objective look at an argument on the basis of it being an argument regardless of personal opinion. This is something that's important in the humanities.
I appreciate the fact that he's willing and wanting to literally speak with anyone!!!!
He's not.. there is a reason he avoids online leftist
He is willing to *talk* around anyone he deems an easy target. That is the clarification many people need made to them about Ben Shapiro. He *talks* but never says anything.
Talking over Liberal Arts majors who are still going through University and have never actually taken a class in debate is not a particularly impressive feat in the world of formal debate.
I have not found a single person who cares what sexual orientation other people have as long as they are not trying to force it onto them, and they want to be the center of the universe and they can't handle the fact that they are not better than others and don't deserve special attention and only deserve the same respect as the rest of us no more, no less
By the way, prolly my favorite reaction video by you....I love that you use your brain and actually think and give your thoughts on it
Love this branch out from your other content. I think it comes natural to you. Keep it coming! I recommend Jordan Peterson.
Alex. It’s great to discuss this. It does not matter what someone says as long as it’s like this. I appreciate hearing this and discussing this. We need to do more of it. We can all work together. We’re being taught or our younger children are being taught that they’re not allowed to say anything because if their opinion doesn’t go with a group thought… Then they are evil and so is there thinking. That’s crazy. Thank you so much
14:46 - 15:02 you summarized the conversation very well. She did a great job staying calm and respectful, in front of a room with many who disagreed with her to boot, and was asking real questions. I have a lot of respect for her. Her thinking was flawed but I thought Ben was very respectful as well -- never laughed at her, stayed civil, never implied she was stupid just pointed out the flaws in her arguments, and looked for a point of agreement at the end. And that's why I enjoy listening to Ben Shapiro as opposed to some other conservatives who mock those who disagree with them, treat them disrespectfully etc. Plus he does have that super quick mind, always a sight to see since I have what you described and the French have a term for: "L’espirit de l’escalier" ("the wit of the staircase") or the shower in your examplle - heh!
agreed
Would love to see you react to Hitchens! Some good Hitchslaps are always funny
That I would love to see!
Watching this, as a 58 year old man who is old enough to remember when people weren't too cowardly to speak the truth, or tell someone they were delusional and needed professional help, it is so sad to me when I see people actually surprised when someone confronts an idiot with the obvious. People used to boldly speak the truth, and if that hurt some idiot's precious little feelings that was their problem. It is not our job to play along with someone else's delusion.
On a further note. Exactly how healthy (mentally) would you consider someone who would kill themselves because someone else disagreed with them, judged them to be an idiot, or refused to play along with their delusion? No, they did not commit suicide because someone refused to call them a woman when they were obviously a man. They committed suicide because they were mentally ill, and never learned to cope with the realities of life!
Okay
Okay gonna kms cuz you disagreed with me
Yes!!
BINGO!
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Love both Ben and Alex, they should make a video reacting to metal together 😂
I hadn’t seen this particular video with Ben & I appreciate you sharing it. He is a highly intelligent man with a good moral core. Instead of debating him, these kids should be learning from him. I learn something every time I listen to him. I check the facts & he is right on time every time.
Ben Shapiro is like a freaking computer. He even glitches a little bit, but then gets back on track.
My favorite Shapiro quote is: "my whole family talks this way. We talk so fast when we all get together we literally break time."
he's very good at spouting out fallacies, that's definitely right.
@@kero-c8f Lol debate him then.
@@Sarvlosify sure, anytime.
@@kero-c8f in the art of debate whats truth and not truth is meaningless. It’s whoever can make their decisive argument the valid argument through the art of debate.
Wow Alex I have so much more respect for you for doing this
I hope the PC ABC people don't cancel you
It isn't so much that he 'outsmarts' people, you can do that through circular logic, but that he believes and understands his opponent. That is as important as understanding your own argument.
Hi Alex! I have enjoyed your colorful music reactions, but now you have literally shoved your fingers to a wasp nest... This is gold!
On this perspective, I'm with Ben on this one. Pro-life. But I give the girl credit for hanging in and trying. She got wrecked, but she stuck in and tried, and didn't flip out. Good on her for that, at least.
This was a great reaction. He didn't fully agree with Ben, pointed out some of his own criticisms, but ultimately was respectful.
Didn't watch all of it. Thought you might want to knowthat
This was awesome and on que Alex! Keep it coming. Enjoyed it!
In the girl scouts fair defense, I was in boy scouts and my sister was in girl scouts and she insisted I got to do the fun stuff. During summer camp we would shoot bows arrows and learn how to hunt and sleep outside on a sleeping bag under the stars. After coming home from camp I told her all the things I did and she insisted the girl scouts was boring and she wishes she could join. Upon asking my scout master if she could he said no because you have to be a boy to be in the boy scouts. I asked at 8 years old where it was written and he also said " in the name BOY scout" and pointed it out on our books.
For me, abortion boils down to a single question:
Why is murder considered so heinous? Because a murder destroys any future that person had. The memories they would create with others, the impact they'd have on people and the world, the potential that they had.
Abortion does the same exact thing. A fetus is a developing human. Killing that fetus destroys any future that person may have had. It's the same reason why miscarriages are so devastating.
Pretty much. To me, the argument of whether it is murder or not is cut and dry, it's obviously murder. People just like to play games because they refuse to admit that they like to quantify the value of human life between humans based solely on "potential." I'm sure that plenty of geniuses that could have benefitted mankind far more than their parents ever could were wrongfully terminated before birth because their parents took it upon themselves to rank their lives and comfort more than human life and ended them for it.
I'd honestly argue that it's a fine example of universal morality that most people share...no one thinks it's fair that someone else decides their fate for them. Who cares if they were in the womb or 30 years old when some random person decided to take their life?
Who says that "developing" human being is a human being, that is the ONLY thing it boils down to, the determination of when life begins. Religious folks that are big anti-abortionists should pay attention to their bible, because the god in their book says life doesn't start until the infant is outside of the womb breathing air.
I'm not religious, so that part there doesn't matter to me, but the the heart isn't fully developed until after the 20th week, the brain, and other vital organs after that, so before 20 weeks, the fetus has no functioning heart no brain to hold memories. And 97.6% of all abortions in the U.S. happen at or before the 20th week. 20 weeks is also the time period where they can test the fetus to see if it will have any defects or diseases if it goes to term. If you know that future, the one you speak of, is going to be full of struggle and pain and suffering from an uncurbable disease, then what? You don't think the future mother of that suffering human being, should have any say, or not be able to choose not let that happen?
Where's the cut off at too, on when life begins, and who gets to decide? I mean if you're considering the basis as just "potential life" then if abortion is made illegal, then masturbation for men should be illegal, I mean that's in the ballpark of 100million lives each time you blow load into your sock, that's a LOT of potential lives being killed.
@@sunshynff Basic biology says life begins at conception. So does the vast majority of Christian denominations. So do the vast majority of religions.
The only people who question when life begins are amoral liberals who want to murder a baby because they were too stupid or lazy to use easily available and cheap birth control.
Also, way to point to the most extreme case to make your point. That means you don't really have one and you know it. The 99% of abortions aren't done for health reasons, nor rape or any other reason beyond "I was too dumb not to use birth control."
Your framing is only taking into account the future, not the past of the person. Disregarding morality for a second, and looking at it purely "mechanically", a person at any age past 0 will have friends, loved ones, have had impact on other people's lives and matter to them. If that person died, it would also impact the wider world around them, which is also part of why murder is so harmful, as it not only cuts off that person's future, but also damages their social surroundings probably irreparably, to an extent depending on how connected they have been of course. In that particular sense, the abortion issue is a "cleaner" process, where the only people really involved are the parents, and the child, insofar as it could or should be considered as such at the stage of its development.
Most people will agree* with disallowing abortion after a certain point, I believe mainly around the time where the child forms a nervous system and can experience pain and some form of memory or identity building or something. So to do with how the abortion would impact the child itself. I personally have no deeper understanding, but that is how it appears to me, and as far as that is factual, that would be my personal boundaries around accepting the practice, as long as the child, or child-to-be, doesn't feel pain or loses what it has not yet gained.
Morally speaking, certainly I would like there to be good reasons though, such as being a rape victim I child born from that might grow up being resented by its mother, fatherless and it would also deeply affect the child psychologically whenever it eventually finds out about where it came from (being born from hatred so to speak, not love.) Another instance that I would condemn socially, with regards to its circumstances, but understand the reasoning in that case, would be something like teen pregnancy, where there is maybe no supporting family that could take care of the child, and where the mother is financially and personally (due to lack of age and maturity) unable to really do that.
@@holysecret2 I agree with most of what you said, but unfortunately as a society we have to put morality aside and choose one way or another. Morality is a very personal thing, it's an individualistic virtue, and it can be very subtly different like you explaining where you'd like to see the line drawn. You could have two pro choice people that have feel almost the same way about abortions but have slightly different morals on it. One may be a firm no on any termination past the first trimester, bit for any reason, too young, rape, whatever, and he next door neighbor and good friend could be a hard no on rape cases because she says it's not the child's fault, but is ok with up to 3rd trimester if the mothers life is in danger.
When a group of people, community or society unofficially agree on something, or certain "unwritten rules" develop, those are considered ethical beliefs. The famous example is the drowning baby in the fountain. There's no laws on the books in most towns that state specifically you have to save a baby if one were to fall in a fountain and is drowning, but if a baby did fall in the town fountain and the mother couldn't be found, probably 99%, hopefully all, of the people in that town would consider it unethical not to help, or agree that it would be your civic duty as a good citizen and human being to save the baby.
Then when an ethical belief gets more wide spread, and to the point people dissect it and decide where that line is in that particular ethical situations, they vote on where that line should be, and create a punishment if it is crossed or broken, and we then call it a law. I think that's why abortion is one of the biggest hot button debates, because it's such a diverse subject with moving parts, and people get their morality and ethical beliefs all tangled up in the law and it's hard to get a general consensus.
Bullying isn’t a factor because the reaction to the bullying is a big part of the disorder. As Ben pointed out , other bullied groups and individuals don’t commit suicide at anywhere near the rate transgender people do.
And as Ben mentioned, bullying generally doesn’t cause suicidal tendencies.
We are living in the most accepting time for Transgender people in history and the suicide rate remains the same
Here's what I think didn't get addressed. For those that "commit suicide because of the bullying" - well, did they get taught effective coping mechanisms and how to deal with adversity?
Seems to me that the way to address people who would commit suicide is to teach them how to effectively cope and deal, especially with negative emotions. Not asking society to bend over and be more kind and all that. That's out of the individual's control.
The reaction to bullying is not a part of gender dysphoria.. DYSPHORIA IS THEM being uncomfortable with them selves. And even if transgender have a higher suicide rate that doesn't correlate that transitioning doesn't help or that affirmation doesn't help. Which is what he implies he saying they don't need gender reassignment they need something else. Which is what the author of that study is upset about when people like Ben push a narrative that these GRs don't work
@@TeddieTH-cam ok
@@TeddieTH-cam well, if the studies show that the GRs aren't causing the numbers to shift the other way enough, it's plausible for Ben to suggest that they need something else. Because on paper, statistically, GR isn't improving the numbers enough. He's against the notion that GR will simply fix their problems, and thus uses the numbers to show that. Because he doesn't want those afflicted to buy into the notion that it's something similar to a magic pill that's going to fix things.
That's not to say GR doesn't work for some. Blaire White seemed to have benefited. My understanding is that she did take the time to carefully consider why she's doing it. She made an informed decision, and considered the risk to reward. As opposed to someone who thinks that GR will simply solve their problems.
@@JiraiyaSama86 people don't get GRs to prevent suicide my guy they get it to elevate gender dysphoria... Which is ABSOLUTELY vanishes after GR... So why would you try to suggest another tool for the job it doesn't achieve.. that's like using a drill for digging after you just got done shoveling a hole... You're trying to fix something..by taking away the thing that already fixed a previous issue... What type of fucking sense does that make?????
Alex, you keep saying how well spoken some of the people in your reactions are. But you, yourself are very well spoken. Dont sell yourself short!!
Bullying is truly a terrible thing
I was born with cataracts, and have experienced it first hand
I never felt bad
I just got angry
But wanting to stop people from being jerks is the same thing as saying we can control the way parents raise their kids
We simply can’t
One of the best political quotes I have ever heard, came from Ross Perot
We can never make people do the right thing
We can only punish them after they have done the wrong thing
How true
Keep up the great work, Alex
You’re right. I watched. I thought just from little clips that show that he’s more pushy but after watching three or four videos I realize that he only gets that way when someone does it to him. He was actually enjoying his conversation with this young lady and you’re right he was respectful to her
Love the fact that you respect his skill, and you're correct, she held her composure. Hat tip for that.
But her "point" "Have you ever spoken to transgender people instead of all these white people ?" was truly pathetic.
Great video! Discussion and argument is essential to us all. As I get older, the less black and white I view things as.
The latter is a thing I think about whenever I hear people just go on about "UUUHHHH the Dunning-Kruger Effect".
Not everything can simply be classed as either absolute or a non-entity. Often with even hypermetrically measured variables there is an allowance.
Loved your reaction! Thank you and God bless you!
Ben Shapiro is so brilliantly savage i absolutely love watching him talk
The way I look at stuff like this is that you should be more than free to make whatever choices you want to make in life but you should be more than willing to deal with the outcome of those choices whether the outcome is good, bad, or in between.
Its nice to see for a change a "touchy" topic be handled with maturity, allowing proper discussion without childish insulting and blind bias of a one sided view, refusing to even consider the opposing side. This is very rare these days, and attempts to discuss usually are toxic, immature, and ignorant spouting off of people without actually thinking about the issue properly.
With that in mind for what its worth, thank you to the video host AND the people commenting for maintaining a proper atmosphere of discussion. Apparently you have some good minds following your channel. This type of discussion and environment has the potential to accomplish good things, I hope it continues and helps people who struggle to remain objective and use reasoning before commenting harmful nonsense learn from the examples of all you guys. Good day to everyone and thanks for keeping it clean and rational
Very well said. These comments say a lot about his subscriber base. I hope he notices that.
“If you are picking a fight with Ben Shapiro, prepare to lose!”
It really is just that simple!
“Why aren’t you 60?”
She never saw that curveball coming and had no legitimate argument out of that box.
I’m sure plenty of people believe they have a solid Monday Morning Quarterback response but I’m guessing it wouldn’t stand up to the reality test.
You should argue with Ben I wanna see two lawyers go at it
"Facts don't care about your feelings." - Tom MacDonald
When I was a kid, living in a neighborhood of about 20 kids from 5-18, it wasn't bullying, it was establishing a pecking order. Something which sustained human societies for tens of thousands of years. In my neighborhood, you had your fists, your teeth and your heart. Which of those you were willing to sacrafice determined where you were placed in the chain. And once established, those above you would be your biggest defender, because you were a member of that clan. Folks above me in our clan actually protected us from bullies. And we did the same in kind for those below us. I'm 51, grew up in a mixed neighborhood and I'm 1 generation out of the trailer park. I feel no shame for it.
Pretty sure that line is a Shapiro line, not MacDonald
@@PixlerPerspective I don't remember Shapiro being in that particular music vijeo, but you are correct!
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No, I am saying that MacDonald is quoting Ben Shapiro when he makes that statement. Ben Shapiro’s calling card is Facts don’t care about feelings.
@@PixlerPerspective I'm pretty sure Shapiro didn't coin that saying, but, OK. Fake Woke - Tom MacDonald. Less people see Ben, and I'd rather they see Tom's vijeo. Ben is a sage. As is Tom. Tom has come up with a LOT of lyrical truth...even though he's a Canadian! LOL. Ben is just a genius that knows no limits. I loved seeing him appear before congress. He's a BEAST!
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No Ben actually coined the phrase.
“On July 17th, 2015, Ben Shapiro appeared on the American current affairs program Dr. Drew on Call to discuss Caitlyn Jenner, who at the time had recently come out as transgender. When others on the panel criticized Shapiro for disregarding Jenner's personal pronouns. He responded, "Forget about the disrespect: facts don't care about your feelings." The clip received more than 8.2 million views on TH-cam after HLN published the video. This is the earliest known example of Shapiro using the phrase.”
After that cultural moment, conservatives started using the phrase like gangbusters and it became a mantra for folks on the right.
New subscriber here😊 Love watching Ben Shapiro because he uses logic and facts not emotion to get his point across. And I liked your reaction to this video and your viewpoints was interesting
Welcome to the channel
Alex gets really excited and impressed over basic vocabulary words lol… “malleable” ::pause:: holy mother of god dude!!! He’s so precise!! 😂. I like it.
You're a smart guy Alex. Thanks for recognizing the fallacy of the extreme.
What's the fallacy of the extreme that gender and sex aren't the same thing?
if I remember correctly it's the intersex argument. IDR specifically what it was here but Alex called it out. So your answer is in this video
Damn...Ben is the king of debating and love watching every single minute of it!
He's a king among children I guess
Which is why he doesn't debate very many actual leftist he avoids people whom are begging to debate him.
@@TeddieTH-cam actual leftists are just as emotional as children, what's your point
@@RJWaynerium That the people he debates are college kids and none of them are actually really good advocates or good debaters for their rhetoric.. its like playing basketball with a high school student as a first grader. No shit youre gonna look bad.. And youre gonna make others advocating from your side look bad.. Just all around idiotic.. Good rhetoric though thats why ben looks so great. But all of his ideas are fucking retarded. And make no sense. Unless I was retarded. Then maybe they would
@@TeddieTH-cam such as?
This was great man! I love Ben Shapiro. I don't even necessarily agree with everything he believes. He is a top notch debater though.
Top notch debater of children, when he gets quoted on the BBC though he cries and ragequits lmao.
I have waited 4 years for you to do this.
This earned my subscription.
he 'outsmarts' people? LOL he 'outsmarts' kids at college.
Who would you like him to debate? Out of curiosity and my assumptions...
You clearly haven’t seen many of his debates
@@asazianonabsurdity1723 vaush and sam seder come to mind right off the bat. There are probably more. Hell I certainly wouldn't mind debating him.
@@ghostofsilence2697 Seder is formidable, Vaush is parrot who squawks to his followers. I'd put way for confidence in Destiny before Vaush. Not sure about you, but you seem confident enough.
No matter what, let people believe what they want to believe as long as it falls under very basic morality. If you don't agree with something someone believes and that thing you disagree with isn't hurting anyone, than maybe it's best you ignore them entirely and they ignore you.
That’s where this gets interesting because the transgender ideology is hurting a great deal of people. So it should be kept in check.
@@Dadflinn92 not trying to shut down your claim, but I am genuinely curious, who is it hurting? And is their pain justified or just a way of gathering attention?
@@Nepu_Nep it is starting an entire culture shift. On individual levels it's not really a big deal. But when it becomes such a large movement and people who don't agree with it are treated as hateful people it becomes harmful.
@@brianyager4712 True, I'm half black, have high functioning autism and have been took the piss out of for all of it irl and the internet and even laughed at comedians on the subjects and respected peoples opinions. No one ever cared. But when when I expect the same back with my own opinions I'm treat like the second coming of Hitler. Even though I'm not even transphobic, only disagree on when people want biological men to fight women.
That's a good view to have and one I share. His response would be, aborting a baby at 9 months IS harm. And giving a child hormone blockers IS harm. Thats his argument. And it's tough to disagree. I dont think 9 month abortions should be legal, but I am pro choice. What woman needs 9 months to make up her mind? The point at which a child will survive outside the womb without medical aid, thats murder, to me.
And giving a child life changing medication when they aren't old enough to understand what the consequences are, is child abuse to me. Adults is a different thing. They can choose.
I've lived long enough to know that almost every decision I made until my thirties was a bad one. But I didn't know that then. You change so much as you age. You learn so much with every passing year, not just about the workd but about yourself. You're still growing into your own skin in yoyr twenties. How can you decide at 10, that you want to make a decision that WILL alter your entire existence? There's no way you can know thats the right thing to do.
This stuff is fantastic. Reactingnand giving options is hard to do on internet now a days
Bro this is great! I need to see more reactions like this!
You just took another step up in my book. I don't agree with everything you say but I subscribe because you are real and care about people. You use your channel for entertainment and to be positive. Rock on man!
The only thing that makes Ben Shapiro a good arguer is the speed with which he talks and the confidence with which he can say the stupidest things. His arguments aren't educated and they aren't eloquent. But he does do a good job of making himself sound like they were. It's difficult to argue against him, if you're not ready for him, because he'll throw a lot of fallacies, false equivalences and non sequiturs at you. And I'm disappointed that you fell for his schtick, Alex.
If you want to see a true rhetoric master, I recommend checking out any debate by the late Christopher Hitchens.
I agree. The same guy who graduated cum laude from Harvard Law School doesn’t take the time to educate himself on the topics he speaks on.
Expanding your channel is a boss move. Respect.
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Love it and share comments below to support Mr Ben SAPHIRO
He is such a dude, a Man in mature literally..
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There is exactly one question that I want B.S. to answer:
See their homes to whom Ben? Freaking Aquaman?!
It’s the only Shapiro reaction video anyone needs:
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Sell*
Anyone that has oceanfront property can afford to take a loss lol
The value of ocean front property remains quite high, so there is a ton of people they could sell to
He is so good and on point at arguing because he is 100% right in his views. He always makes sence and is factual.
Excellent video dude. Regardless of opinions, stepping out and watching a video that some think is controversial is awesome to see. Much respect.
Congrats on your bar. Good stuff. I like this new content you’re doing
I love the fact that he is only looking for honesty. He embraces it and allows it to speak it's mind, no matter who is saying it. But it seems to me that the majority of people who converse with him, even those that agree, totally miss that simple fact.
The great thing about the Boy Scouts line is his deadpan delivery of it. BTW I totally disagree with Ben on abortion.
So do i, but I suspect if it hadn't gone to extreme, up to 9 months, then he probably wouldn't be so vocal. As usual, every action has an equal and opposite reaction. One extreme leads to the opposite.
Is it Justice and Right to hold an innocent human being responsible, and executed, for the choices or crimes of another human being?
Why should a baby starved, torn apart, burned alive, injected with poison, and be killed for the choices of his parents? What crime did the baby commit to deserve such a horrific fate?
@@boudecia22 His opposition to abortion is religion based and from watching his videos he is opposed to it full stop.. I think Dave Chappelle's monologue on abortion was correct.
Digging these videos dude. Love him or hate him, Ben is far smarter than anyone on the modern left. That's why he's a target by so many. Keep an open mind Alex!
Lol "put eggs in your beer"??? 🤣🤣🤣
dafuq does that even mean ?
good stuff Mr Hefner
Good reaction man. Not too much interjection but just enough to give us content. Good reaction.
Congrats on your ability to stipulate that you can find someone's capacity to argue a point interesting without agreeing with them. That makes you a rare breed these days. Keep it on
Regardless of the arguments being presented, i really enjoyed this 'new category' of reactions. Really enjoyed learning from your breakdown of the arguments presented. Also, like him or hate him Ben Shapiro is a beast in debates- quick, knows seemingly unending amount of scientific data, and honestly treats people with tolerance and respect regardless of the view they present during discussions.
Ben's skill is to always give his opponents enough rope that they can hang themselves with.
I used to be pro choice until I saw one of those videos when they did abortion and you could see the baby fighting off the vacuum thingy and just losing an arm, then starting to kick to trying to get away and sloop there went the leg and so on until it lost the battle
Good grief. Thankful that you were able to change your views, but so sad that it took that video. Welcome to the pro life club my friend.
Omg, I could not watch that.🤢 I watched "an abortion" on a baby doll and that was enough for me 😬
What you described sounds horrifying. I have been anti-abortion since university when I got to see the corpses of fetuses.
So Sad....utterly heartbreaking.....And these deranged criminals get to have a say!!?? This is beyond inhuman... To hell with their God damn "choice"..
If it's the video I think you're referring to and that's what changed your mind, it's very clear that you not only took it at face value but also don't comprehend the procedure itself and why it's done. I'll never try to change someone's mind on the subject itself but for the love of God, people need to actually read more about abortions and fully understand every aspect of them. Having one is not a decision taken lightly by women nor are they used as a firm of birth control like extreme pro lifers claim it is.
I absolutely do agree that Ben Shapiro is a good debater, even though his views are disgusting. The main issue I have with this debate is that he’s debating with someone who doesn’t have that skill. She doesn’t know how to make claims from a scientific or philosophical stance, only emotional. Shapiro is 100% wrong here, but he’s a better speaker, and so he “won.”
Um no Ben is 100 % percent here and if you think his views are "disgusting" than you're too soft a person to gave a political debate with. Don't come at me with religion crap either. I share his religious views but he's still usually right about everything else
@@inkarceration4069 On the topic of transgender people I recognize that he’s better than some, in that he at least acknowledges that they’re people, but he’s still incorrect. Ironically I think he bases his views on his own feelings and biases. Personally I try to look at it scientifically and philosophically. I’d be happy to give you some examples if you want to hear them. (For transparency’s sake, I’m an atheist but that doesn’t make an appreciable impact on my views)
@@gk7754 I agree that they’re fairly normal, which is unfortunate. On the note of capital punishment, I’m entirely against it. I get the mentality of wanting to put mean bastards in the dirt, or simply not wanting tax dollars to go towards housing scum of the earth. The problem is wrongful conviction is a very very real thing. Even if the chances are slim, I’d rather my tax dollars be spent on keeping a bastard in jail than entertain the possibility of them being used to kill an innocent person. Shapiro’s (and indeed a lot of right wing people’s) “the ends justifies the means” mentality is disgusting to me.
@@gk7754 I agree that they’re fairly normal, which is unfortunate. On the note of capital punishment, I’m entirely against it. I get the mentality of wanting to put mean bastards in the dirt, or simply not wanting tax dollars to go towards housing scum of the earth. The problem is wrongful conviction is a very very real thing. Even if the chances are slim, I’d rather my tax dollars be spent on keeping a bastard in jail than entertain the possibility of them being used to kill an innocent person. Shapiro’s (and indeed a lot of right wing people’s) “the ends justifies the means” mentality is disgusting to me.
@@Raziel_118 I meant I don't share his religious views
I would love to watch more clapback videos of Ben Shapiro he makes valid points on a wide spectrum of issues
Super late comment here, but I've been super happy to see you and other content creators engaging in these dialogues - politics or controversy aside, I think it's really important to be able to consider varied perspectives and listen, debate, learn, and so on. Thanks for sharing!
I hate an ultra conservative, toxic masculinity and extreme religion and he is all three. Yes he is great with words and is able to eloquently speak his strong opinions against people that usually aren’t good with words and aren’t good at explaining their opinions. And all that doesn’t make him right. 🏳️⚧️ love wins.
I agree with you Alex, the bullying definitely would cause a change in that number, I wish Ben would have acknowledged that during this. Although he is right, the discrepancy would still be very large regardless
It may but lots of people get bullied for all issues or just to bully and the non trans have such a higher rate, shows it’s only a small factor
@@ericsvoboda8906 Exactly, everyone gets bullied and harassed throughout life, the question to ask is *Why* the rate of suicide is 10x higher and *what* the increased rate is caused by.
Claiming the world needs to change how we as individuals speak just to accommodate 00000.01% of the total population is insane.. thats like ignoring 9 of your kids needs and only focusing on 1.
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ALSO- he is the one asking to change the situation re: abortion, not her or them. Every woman has to have rights to their body for WHATever reason. Some girls make mistakes and some boys make mistakes at young ages- some people cant afford babies and get pregnant while using birth control. You should never bring a life into this world that you can’t afford.
I agree with you completely bro, you shouldn’t bring a life that you can’t afford into this world. But, if you accidentally do, is it really ok just to kill it off for your own sake?
Life always chooses life. You're an idiot.
How many subscribers did you lose over this one? You rock Alex!
How many did he gain?
I would recommend everyone to watch his debate with Anna Kasparian (The Young Turks) they agree on a surprising amount and was actually enjoyable to watch!
And it's a great example of how much less impressive Shapiro looks when he's matched up against someone as knowledgeable and prepared as Ana.
@@darkphoenix2 Exactly, i enjoy both of their content and was nice to see them both on a level playing field.
@@darkphoenix2 Less impressive? How? He would still school 90% of people here and has taken the scalps of TYT hosts before. Cenk Yoghurt comes to mind.
Ben is politely ruthless and great at it!
I stopped watching Shapiro when he was invited on another person's podcast, he did no research on the person and he looked like a total snowflake when he was called out on some of his points. I've grown a lot since I first started getting into politics and I definitely am more in the middle now. Both sides royally fucking suck. I get called a liberal when calling out my former side and called racist when calling out the left lol.
In fairness, Ben Shapiro has owned up to that interview and has admitted that it was not a good moment for him. He cited that podcast and the interview with Andrew Neil as being low moments in his career.
I mean nobody's amazing all the time
@@kylemiller8040 I get that and no one is perfect but if you're gonna call people snowflakes because they get owned by facts and then you turn around and do the same thing, I lose interest personally. That's why you do your research and I know Ben was smart enough to know that.
Same brother. I just want gay married couples to be able to protect their weed farms with full auto AR15's and be left alone.
@@eobardthawne7851 I think it depends on the frequency and consistency. I don't particularly like Shapiro anymore either, and that interview was absolutely embarrassing for him, but has it happened again? Does he keep doing it? Or did he just have a really bad day?
I think if you're going to consider the "bully" argument, you'd probably have to look at what % of bullied kids commit suicide. The difference in number there just seems to high for bullying to be a major factor. As someone who isn't transgender though, I obviously haven't experienced what it feels like
Yeah it's difficult to tell honestly, you can only assume how much each factor plays a part. My understanding of transgenders is that they genuinely feel like they identify with the opposing sex more strongly than the one they were biologically born with, so being bullied for that makes you feel like your entire being and concept of self is being questioned and you feel extremely alienated. Adding on to that, a large number of transgenders also struggle with their family not accepting them for who they want to be, when family should be atleast some kind of safe haven where you can truly feel respected and loved for who you are, or want to be.
All of this together likely plays a massive part on the suicide rates. It's not correct to call it a mental illness at all, and based on these prior observations I don't think that is the cause for the higher rates. There used to be a time when homosexuality was also considered a mental illness. Times change and people, hopefully, can be more understanding. Ben Shapiro can sound smart and witty in his argument, but he often misses a lot of important key points.
It's bound to be a factor in individual suicides among trans people, but without other unique factors coming into play, it wouldn't account for the much higher numbers overall, because bullying affects people across the board in society and so from a logical point of view it does nothing to explain that disparity. It does probably exacerbate whatever other factors contribute to the suicide rate, but eventually you'd have to concede that it's those other factors that are more likely to be the main causes of higher rates.
Debate pro Ben Shapiro tearing apart relatively unprepared college students arguments is not impressive. 🇨🇦
Its just truth beating lies, so it isn't hard, true...If it were a fair argument, it might be different.
Truth is truth. I’ve seen him do the same to prepared experts too. He just beats whoever is in front of him lol
He does it to everyone. College students, adults, and experts. Destroys all of them easily.
@@jonathanzytkoskee9740 Like when he tells people to sell thier beachfront property to just sell when global warming puts it underwater? And to Aquaman as bomberguy would say presumably. Or how he's constantly wrong about basic shit and just rides with it as if he didn't just open faced lie to his entire audiance.
Dude, I love my day off because I can binge you! Love these types of videos. NEXT, can you do 45's speech after his arraignment?
I think you're right, bullying has to be a factor in transgender suicidality, but it's definitely far smaller than they'd like you to believe. They're trying to blame everything on bullying and ignore everything else that is going on
The thing for me is that people across the board have committed suicide from being bullied. The question I ask is, is there some unique factor to the trans people that are committing suicide that isn't found (or largely found) in other people.
@@jamesdaniels8007 Yes for sure there is. Gender Dysphoria is a mental illness, so to ignore that as a factor is plain wrong. The suicide rate in transgender community is around 40% I believe, which implies that there is a serious issue that isn't being factored. What that issue is exactly I don't know, but there definitely is something
@@kuroyuki6254 when the instinct of self preservation is overridden, something is definitely wrong.
@@jamesdaniels8007 For sure. And it's sad that some people would just brush it all aside and pretend it's all the society's fault
@@kuroyuki6254 many people just buy into the false narrative and ignore personal responsibility.
wonder how people feel about not having a dislike count now?
I hate TH-cam got rid of that. I'm pretty sure I know why they did, but I "dislike" it. LOL.
@@cphine they haven’t stopped anyone from commenting “dislike”
@@vedderstemple True enough, but I liked seeing the ratio.
its 85% up, 15% down, with 1200 likes and 165 dislikes.
People dont press dislike anymore
He's logical & intelligent. Don't push it girl. You have alot of living to do.
He is fast-talking and good at quickly distracting from weak spots in his arguments. His reasoning about suicide statistics has as many holes as swiss cheese, for example - he is bordering on plain lying there.
He’s neither logical or intelligent. He is a good debater, no one is taking that away from him. But you can be good at debating while still being wrong
@@hitthegoat Nope, literally not how it works, if you do not have facts on your side, which he does, he literally cites his sources, which the left NEVER does, cause they have none.
New subscriber. Love your last few videos. You got stones man....need more people like you willing to discuss these issues.