Ben, the two of us need look no more We both found what we were looking for With a friend to call my own I'll never be alone, and you, my friend, will see You've got a friend in WEEEEEEEED!
I’m not a Ben Shapiro fan. He often comes across as a bit smarmy. However, this is one of the best examples of two people of slightly different opinions having a really great discussion without over emotion. Also big respect for saying where he doesn’t have knowledge and not having an opinion. I think both Ben and Joe were both very good in this interview. We need more discussions like this in our society.
that's what i think is the problem....not too many people can have reasonable discussions regardless of what 'side' they are on. just listen to the other person and then make your judgement. this is a great response by you.
I’m not a fan of either Joe or Ben. I watched this because of the topic, followed by two people that I do not admire at all. But I must say, it was a great debate. Well-spoken, they listen to each other & aside from Joe about five times, there’s no red herrings
I agree. I very much love how he says these are my personal beliefs & morals but you’re free to do as you want without my judgement. Just because you don’t agree with something or an opinion doesn’t mean there’s judgment or meanness. Simply, “respectfully disagree”. So many people want to argue now or if you don’t agree they take it personal 😹😹😹 not everything is mean.
That’s because they actually both agree that marijuana should be legal. This is a middle ground that they agree on. Even people who generally have different views/opinions can have things they agree on. Contrary to what the media wants us to believe, humans aren’t always polar opposites despite some contrasting opinions.
Probably adderall... funny that a lot of these people that don't 'smoke weed personally' are all for taking a shitload of prescription amphetamines or adderall until theyre gakked out of their minds like steven crowder or ben shapiro talking like a damn chipmunk lmao
I would like to say thank you to ben and joe for taking the time to have such a healthy and intelligent conversation that actually benefits everyone. It is soooo refreshing.
Now, yes folks, we get to smell skunk in our backyards and on every city street, and there is NOTHING you can do about it. It is STILL addictive and STILL a gateway drug to even worse drug addiction. This is no longer your grandma’s weed. It is over 50% more potent and devastating for kids. this is so bad all the way around. Ben, what are you thinking?!!!
I microdose with mushrooms for PTSD, was also addicted to pain pills 370 pounds walking with a cane , Now with cannabis and mushrooms I’m 189 no more pills no more addiction
Only drink water. working out as little sugar as possible and I just suffer through the munchies , a lot of my weight gain was from medication the VA Docs gave me
@@robbie8620 sweets aint a problem for me but i just love eating so much i can barely contain myself when im sober. Guess i ll have to quit smoking forever cause even if i lose the weight i ll gain it back if i start again
joe showed us where ben was contradicting himself in his form of believe what is embedded in dark age and fuedal age relgious traditionality of realisms and ideals. whilst with science furthering us in the information age the moses and the burning bush had to be a hallucination from a drug induced activity or mental disfragmentation showing that pyschoactivity in the bible is a good thing if the story of moses is supposed to be a sign of good like jews and christians say it is. this is exactly what ben opposes ben needs to further his mind to openess and his views contradict and put him in some ways absloutly wrong. joe is trying to break bens stigma on a matter ben knows a shallow amount of information on the matter as he kept himself withdrawn and conservative in thought and stature in his life of the subject of drugs and the ideas at large in this debate shown that.
My 75 y/o grandpa in 2010-“reefer drugs are bad and are the devils work!” My 80 y/o grandpa dying of cancer in 2015- “hand me the cookie with weed in it so I can scarf these chili dogs in a few minutes and spend some time with you” True story.
I had a similar experience with my grandpa. He was always against it until he found out he was dying of cancer. I've never seen an 80 year old man smoke a joint so damn quick. He could eat and he wanted to spend time with us more. Without marijuana in his life towards the end we wouldnt have gotten those few last memories.
He's not a virgin, ya fool!! He said in the video he got his religious marriage certificate, so he could 'shtook' his wife!! Shtook is Jewish for doing it, which is teen talk for bumping uglies, which is geezer talk for coitus, which is science talk for fucking, which is cool talk for sexual intercourse, which is unnecessary - I mean, just say sex right!?
I really, really, really, wish, this is how politicians talked in debates. Calm, friendly, and not arguing. They disagree on certain things, but respect the others opinions.
Politics is the worse way to solve any problem. Politics is dead. Politics is like an app that has never had an upgrade while just falling behind while the rest.of the world moves forward. We should put science at for front to solve problems and get rid of all those old bags that don't even remember their own name.
@@FURIOSO84 But what if science doesnt know the answer to everything and we aren't sure what is the best way to do stuff . Then how do we decide our actions?
I always love the phrasing "in my opinion". A lot of people these day's don't understand that it just clarified that that's what they think, instead of them feeling it as an absolute. Which drastically changes observations. Joe is a legend for setting an example
Because he has mastered the subject knows everything he can and use it in a situation that makes it easier to understand for a person who hasn’t experienced it
@@lanceking7273 I am not saying jiu-jitsu is a bad example. I am just saying that there are maybe better examples he could've used. Not EVERYTHING has to do with martial arts.
In an alternate universe in a dmt podcast called the dmt expirience where one pinch of dmt is interveiwing another. DMT: "Have you ever done Joe Rogan?"
😂😂😂😂 Noice! I can feel those endorphins being released and a mad reduction of epinephrine and cortisol! It's changing my perceptions... Ahhh... Feels gooooood!! I'm surprised the fda doesn't consider laughter, to be non-beneficial!
This is a beautiful conversation. I agree with Joe pretty much the whole way, but these people very clearly disagree in such an respectful, adult way. This is far more rare than it should be.
MysterySteve: The Pathetic Gamer I agree more with Ben. People like yourself and Joe smoke weed and personally we don’t have a problem with it. I just don’t expect you guys to shove it down our throats to accept it and smoke it ourselves if we choose not to. Like he said “this is a free country” we should all do what we want without someone forcibly trying to bring their ideas for everyone else to believe.
@@TheGoaterGoat perhaps, but he's not just interjecting to hear himself talk while dismissing the other person. He's responding to whatever is being said thus contributing to the conversation as a whole. Theres a big difference
@johnwayne87 No. But its already established. We know his point of view and Bens. So to say that only means you want to continue arguing about it. Who the hell wants to be around that?
Fritz 45ACP But ben isnt against the use of marijuana. So why keep drilling talking points to someone that A: isnt against it and B: clearly doesnt want to talk about it anymore.
Amazing podcast between two critical thinkers. Struggle is absolutely a part of life even if people are doubtful because they would rather live in a world of comfort. You learn and grow as a human being in times of turmoil if you have the right mental compass guiding you through tough times.
Your comment should be top comment. I don't know if you believe in the afterlife but I've followed literally hundreds of near-death-experience stories where people claim to have gone to "the other side" during clinical death and most have reported that they met with higher beings that reminded them that life is supposed to be difficult and challenging for the purpose of spiritual growth and learning. There's so much cohesiveness with their stories that I believe life after death is probably true. This knowledge has given me the strength to cope with hardship more effectively than the average person. I've been through the lowest of the low and I came out of it a much stronger person with more wisdom. I really feel like I meant to go through terrible stuff to get where I am now. My mother in-law on the other hand, doesn't cope well with hardship. Not to sound mean, and there's no way to sugarcoat it, but she's an extremely stupid and unintelligent person. She's 70-something and not at all wise or seasoned. She's a "young soul" and comes across as someone who's learned absolutely nothing. She feels that life has cheated her, that everything's unfair and that she should never have to suffer or have any hardship. Her mentality is so immature and unrealistic. She doesn't see the opportunities for lessons in hardship. I do. That's why I don't sulk or feel sorry for myself for the challenges I have in life. I view it as something I was meant to experience and for a good purpose. Life is what it is and we must make the best of it and learn to live in the now and enjoy what we have.
@@BadDriversOfNapa Very detailed, I appreciate your comment and perspective. In my own life, this relates to the practice of Stoicism. Marcus Aurelius was evidently able to deal with all the hardships he was dealt with in his lifetime--living by the philosophy of "the obstacle is the way." When you look at everything as either a lesson or a success, rather than a failure or a success, it can change your life dramatically; as long as you have a healthy perspective on what the lesson might be, and are truthful with yourself during the reflection process. I honestly believe that many people would become immune to depression, if they practiced this way of thinking. It's easy to say that you're depressed and reach for crutches in life while you claim to be a victim of circumstance. It's arguably more challenging yet more virtuous in my opinion, to take control of your own life and to understand that there are things outside of your control. There are many people that have it much worse than you do. Nothing is stopping you from making do with what you've got while moving forward, other than your own mind. The mind is analogous to a "tool" in my view; it's your choice on how to use it effectively and also your responsibility to keep it sharp. I think there's far too much stigma around some of these substances. If you view them as a tool, they can be used for great things but dangerous depending on circumstance as well. Nothing is ever viewed as black and white when I think about things. I think it's probably bad for younger adults with developing brains. I think that benefits can be gained by those who need it for a variety of appropriate reasons in my book. I have the same viewpoint on psylocibin. My theory around that, is that developed brains with less neuroplasticity are stuck in certain ways, and chemicals like this can re-open pathways that normally wouldn't be open, as a way to "reboot" the system. As this relates to the studies around aiding with depression, and seeing my father develop depression over time, this makes a ton of sense to me. Especially, given the fact that you hear stories about people curing their depression on their own, once something "clicks" in their own mind about their own life during self-reflection. Mindset should be something that society explores more deeply in my opinion. It's much more important than any other topic.
@@TheAceInfinity Yes, indeed. I agree with just about all of what you said. Ever since gaining wisdom about what life is really about, I no longer have a victim mentality. I now see every hardship as an opportunity for growth and an opportunity to do something great. My wife is being forced out of a job that's always made her happy......being forced out because of physical damage to her hands brought about by the job itself. She's going to have to go outside her comfort zone and relearn how to deal with difficult people for her next job (a job that isn't so physically demanding as her current one is). But I remind her that when one door closes, another door opens. People get so wrapped up in self-pity and victimhood that they don't see new opportunities right in front of them. They sulk so badly they don't look for solutions. Any time things get tough, I start looking for solutions rather than sit around and sulk. Every problem has a solution or a workaround. My take on recreational drugs is this. I don't do them myself, but I don't frown upon people who do, unless they're doing them to "escape" their problems. Problems are meant to be faced head on and dealt with, rather than running away from them or sweeping them under the rug. I do like to drink, but never to the point where I'm drinking to numb myself or escape my duty to face my problems. And never to the point where I'm poisoning my liver. Moderation is key. I added a new song to my playlist which got me thinking about what my "drug" is. The jazz chillhop group _Down To The Bone_ has a song called "Music Is My Drug". It got me to connect the dots. Music IS my "drug". Jazz and chillhop will always lift my mood when I'm down and make me feel energetic and ready to take the world by the balls. Music gives me a boost when I need it. So, it's the endorphins from the music giving me that "high". I don't use that to escape my problems but rather to give me that needed boost to then face my problems with more confidence. Now, I gotta go listen to that song again...... lol
People who smoke aren't satisfied with you saying "smoke if you want, we don't want to criminalize it". They want (may even need) you to say "ok ok fine smoking is good for you so let's smoke together".
in politics, people have been so well divided that they think the other side is going to end the world or some shit. like relax, if the worlds gonna crumble its probably gonna be a team effort.
@@rileygraham8952 exactly man just be nice to everyone even tho you disagree in one thing should never stop you from being their friend bc you’re going to agree with each other on other things just set those aside and love thy neighbor the world is ugly enough why just argue and belittle people for their different views. I see people who have never even met each other just being nasty to each other in comment sections all the time from both sides. Just chill out and realize there’s gonna be things that you can’t change people’s mind about and the other way around and love everyone you’ll be a lot happier with how you see the world
This interview is proof of why Rogan, and Ben are so popular. They have completely different back grounds and differences in beliefs, but they can still have a rational, calm. A non threatening approach from both sides. THIS is how you debate and have a productive discussion. No mystery to me why they're both so popular!
he is only rational calm because hes on joe rogans space becuase if not he would be calling weed smokers crackheads. hes brainwashed by religion and man made rules from the gospel books. wearing stupid hats signs of opression and authority to invisible beings in the sky. ahahaha ben shapiro is gay
@@ricardomartinhodacruz Don't fool yourself. You're also brainwashed. We're all brainwashed. Our source of our brainwashing is just different...Also, have you not been listening to the discussion on this video. The use of marijuana and the community of church/religion, both have their positive and negative aspects. i.e., marijuana disrupts healthy brain development but can take the edge off...Silly hats but a community influence toward a united moral value.
@@wolverinesfight1213 you believe what you believe. for me theres no positive at all in following organized religions, miseducating people by using coercion tactics on human morality and ideals. I actually believe religion is the source of genocide, war, racism, moral superiority, absolutism, imperialism, discrimination, homophobia, transphobia, etc. go read any gospel book (which is the pillar for anyone follwing religion by the way) even tho religious people never read extensively what they preach or believe which shows lack of consciousness too loool and youll see that the books are full of hate speech and basic stupidity. refuting humbred of years of scientific knowledge, laws of physics, biology, anthropology. ignorance is a bliss. educating children on religon is dangerous and terrorism
@@wolverinesfight1213 community church is the synonym for a bunch of dudes who have nothing more to do than talk about how jesus is gonna come on earth and save us all. basic stupidity. tell that to all kids dying right now in ukraine or victims of rape. where is jesus now? the fact that mohammed was 50 yo when he impregnated a minor with 15yo. bruh Im not brainwashed go read some books
I like this interview. I am conservative, but I have had extensive experience with various substances. This was a beautiful interview. Thank you, Joe and Ben. 😊👍🏻
Joe “When you eat edibles the THC is processed in your liver and your body produces something called 11-hydroxy metabolite which is five times more psychoactive than THC” Rogan
I’m a Christian and I agree with your views of traditional religious marriage good on you Ben for speaking out about that!!!! Hopefully you get the message out to many young people it just makes the marriage so much better!!!
Joe “scientists in Jerusalem believe the burning bush Moses spoke to was actually the acacia tree which is rich in dmt which could’ve given him the thought he talked to god but in reality it was a dmt trip” rogan
Yea, when it comes to drugs, our government is fucking retardes. Drink until you pass out with 16 but weed is straight from the devil and you'll go to jail for it.
@@qipteq1786 thats fucking bullshit. Im from Germany and I know noone that suddenly stopped drinking beer because its "haram". Stop making shit up about other countries to fuel your wrong political opinions. I bet youve never been to Europe once, probably watched too much Fox News.
Ben Shapiro: I have no personal experience with marijuana but think the government should stay out of it. Basically I agree with you, Joe. Joe Rogan: but no, wait, here’s why you should be in favor of it.
@Captain Danger He just feels like that's an arena where conservatives and liberals can agree and maybe solve some of this divisive behavior, so if he can get Ben behind it, then he can ease some of the stigma to his audience too.
@@osufan77 LOL yeah man that's kinda the point. Ben was telling him "it's not for me, but I am onboard with whatever people wanna do" and Joe kept the sales pitch going. It's like I already agreed to buy the car, stop selling it to me. ;-)
@Allen Ellsworth 1 Corinthians 6:19 - your life and body are gifts from god. Glorify him by how you treat your body 1 Corinthians 3: 16,17 - Don’t destroy your body basically Leviticus 19:28 - don’t scar yourself or tattoo your flesh. 1 Peter 5:8 - stay sober minded. You’ll be vulnerable to Satan There’s much more. But the idea is not to pollute your body or your mind. Getting drunk and smoking weed are guilty of both
Living next to a pub is a nightmare, the noise the fights the police the litter and the pissing all over my house, comparing a pub to a pot shop is not fair.
The best thing ever is putting this on 0.5x speed. It makes this conversation sound like those drunk guys at a party trying to have thoughtful conversations 😅
People don’t get addicted to weed by chemicals they get addicted to the feeling. It’s less of a “I need to get high today” and more of a “this would be way better high” and apply that mindset to everything Edit: I smoked weed everyday for almost 3 years and quit cold turkey when I was thinking about joining the US Air Force. the first couple of days I was mildly irritated and had more trouble falling asleep. Besides those minor side effects I felt no other symptoms. Alcohol, opioids, nicotine, amphetamines, all cause headaches, aches and pains, puking, etc. when you stop taking them due to chemical dependence. Weed doesn’t do anything to the extreme degree other drugs do. (All of this is personal experience and what I’ve learned don’t assume it’s fact)
Exactly! Including phone and video game addictions. I’m someone who is usually against drug use (including alcohol) but weed is my exception. But yeah, getting high on weed too often is going to be unhealthy. And then you could get so addicted to the feeling of the high that you seek out other drugs. That’s the downside. But yeah honestly, if I was to do a drug, I would much rather smoke weed than drink alcohol
my understanding is that cannabis (and the chemicals in it) release dopamine (a chemical in the brain) which is what people become addicted too. sounds chemical to me.
@@reggiefields6551 that forms a chemical dependency. an actual addiction is when ceasing use creates physical/physiological changes that affect your daily life. eg alcohlics get the shakes and can even die in some cases if they go cold turkey. cannabis however nomatter the usage amount or time period has no such thing. only that the person feels they want it. some people experience a slight difficulty going to sleep for one or two days before there sleep pattern returns to normal. for most people all this means is you lay in bed for 20mins before u eventually drift off.
@@chevallavehc5591 each cell that's part of metabolically active tissue cells signals around 15,000 biochemicals a second per cell ! and most of those signaling lipids are cannabinoids !
As a Conservative pot smoker, I fully appreciate the brief, yet tactical, attempt to get Ben high on the spot. Generally, first time smokers are a blast to be around.
@@emilevangheem6165 It is entertaining to watch people who never smoked before, or in general, people who get strong reactions from weed.. which means those who own the weed are often more willing to offer a smoke for free to first timers.
Great conversation. Alcohol, sugar, and food abuse make America obese and unhealthy. Big RX has all the solutions in this bottle or injection. I agree with Ben, that having self-mastery and being accountable to yourself is paramount for solid health. You control what you put in your body every day. Living healthy pays off big time.
The respect that Joe and Ben have for each other is so inspiring. They disagree on almost every political value yet they still remain cordial and friendly. This is what we are missing in American culture, respect of our differences.
Well said, Hunter. I agree fully and wish all of us could put one another’s basic respect in how we talk to one another first and then sort out any indifferences.
I'm 25 and take 6 different kinds of prescribed medication every single day, from Methylphenidate to Xanax, but Cannabis is especially helpful for my Autism, PTSD and depression. It just makes me giggly, in the moment, and is by far the most helpful substance I take medicinally. Don't get me wrong, it effects everyone different, but for some people, it can be incredibly helpful. I would love to hear what other medical marijuana users use it for and how it effects them. I'm studying psychology and substances and would love to hear more useful ways other people use cannabis to help their mental health!!!
0.75x speed is good, Joe sounds chill on weed and Ben sounds like a normal guy yeet... Or just try 2x speed and Joe sounds like he's almost caught up to Ben's normal speed and Ben sounds like Eminem on steroids...
Ben is the perfect example of, you can completely disagree with and be opposed to something, while understanding that it’s your choice, not everyone else’s, and you don’t have the right to force that opinion (or try to) on anyone else. That’s what freedom means
Two guys, intelligent and educated, having opposite views, having a very educational discussion without judgement and no pushing one way of life or another.
imagine a society as such without the violence. Yeah I know thats sounds kumbaya if i spelled that correctly . probly not . So lets stop the hard core extreme politics. This actualy makes me lean more middle , libertarian and Im a rUNION working republican. thats non jewish ..
@@culbyj3665 emagine a society without violence We'll I live in a society like that right now I live in Southeast Asia where there is little to no violence No road rage what's the weather very peaceful the people here have been raised a little different and I guess because it is a crowded part of the world people have learned to hide their emotions to save face I love being around people that do not seem to get upset easily I'm sure there are some people here that do and I'm sure there are some violence I have not seen it and in America I see it all the time and have been a part of it you change your views when you travel the world and see different cultures not to say America is that bad I love my country but we do have way too much violence in America
4:50 "Prefrontal cortex development". And YET 16 yo is when I enrolled in college and began signing for debt. The kind of debt that far exceeds my parent's mortgages 11 times over. 41 yo, still in repayment, paying about 1/3 of my income to college 20+ years ago.
This is how our conversations should be if we have different views. Not someone screaming and crying that everyone should agree with them. I throughly enjoy both sides of this conversation. Respect to both of these guys.
The whole world needs to change in this way. That's why we need to legalize weed worldwide. Alcohol isn't about listening and understanding, it's about speaking and misunderstanding.
Unless you're a Marxist. Then you disband police.. Loot Target and burn down your neighborhood.. then hysterically call the cops when your house gets looted.
Most conservatives I know do have conversations like this when they aren't being screamed at and demonized for simply being conservative. And don't get me wrong, I'm not naive to the fact that in some places it is opposite, where liberals get ganged up on by conservatives. Where I live it is very liberal and in some places, I am genuinely worried about being open with my ideology. My kids wore their masks in school after masks were made optional because they said if they took them.off they would be bullied and called Republicans. So I think ppl on both sides need to realize that these things happen from both ends...and it is wrong no matter what. I respect liberals and truly believe our country needs a good balance of both sides because it helps move us forward with dreams, with common sense, with purpose and for the betterment of all. It is sad where our politicians have allowed this to get to where we are. In my opinion, many of them need to go...and we need to elect normal, moderate Dems and Reps and get back to a level of normalcy...and this is how I and almost every single conservative I know think. Right now though, at least in my area....as soon as you say anything right leaning....it goes from a conversation to an accusation (racist, natzi, redneck, homophobe...etc etc). It is just hard to have conversations when ppl automatically hate you or devalue your ideas and opinions. And again, I know this happens in the reverse as well. Hope we can get back to respectfully communicating.
For the longest time i believed that Ben often makes his “opponent” look dumb. Joe has made it clear that in fact Ben’s opponent make themselves look dumb. Joe is an intelligent man who doesn’t let his emotions dictate a debate. And in my opinion, they both represented their beliefs respectfully and nobody was made a fool. This is one of the better interviews I’ve watched.
Shilling for Ben I see. You should watch his BBC interview of him Destroying himself. Ben only debate first year college/university students. Never anyone with real knowledge. This little shiller always backs down or go cry to mommy.
@John Lydon What you can and can't do is fairly relative and different strains can make a difference. I guess u can connect with the art of jiu jitsu more and use that awareness that bud can give u to focus and read movements etc. Weed is epic
John Lydon cuz your the lazy dude their talking about. Try getting out and burning one then go grapple. Exactly what Joe said. You zone into what your doing. You zone into your video games but it works for a lot of things we do.
@@kahiwahiwaokalanikiaaina3533 Fucking oath. It CAN be hard to get into the zone but once your in, it's quite phenomenal. Reading a book after sparking up can be difficult but once your in, it's a real incredible experience.
Quaintium I burn everyday since I was 15. Now 40. Herb has given me a better attitude, calmed by anxiety and allows me focus on what I’m doing at that time. I’d if you agree with me or not but I definitely understand what you mean about even reading a book becomes more enjoyable. Listening to music is better. A day at a beautiful Hawaiian beach is more enjoyable and making love with your wahine is definitely more feeling or enjoyment. Herb has also saved me from being a meth addict. I been off that shit and clean for almost 4 years now and without it I don’t know if I’d even still be here. I’m not in favor of kids burning but CBD for kids would probably help get them off pharmaceuticals. Herb is the real healing of the nation. It’s brings strangers together and become friends.
One thing I really admire about Ben as a religious person is that he has learned to separate his own personal beliefs from what he may believe what is right for others.
It's hard for me to admire this guy. He is smart and I like that about him, but also I think there is no way he can actually believe some of the nonsense he talks about and he just says it for his base. Ben is just driving very fast down one road in one lane. That's fine, but that isn't the way to truth in my opinion. He claims to know what god wants and any human that talks like this is just MAKING STUFF UP!
Joe, on the other hand, has to interrupt every discussion to lecture himself on the benefits of marijuana. So fantastically tedious.....nobody cares...
@@HighStakesDanny he's smart in the sense that he and a few others have built a network of 'clicks for merchandise' like nothing else on the conservative/religious side of social media. but other than that, the guy is a wanna-be thinker. at the end of his run, like all of them, he'll be known as someone who chose to be scandalous in public for the money that comes w/ all the attention/traffic. i stopped after 10 min, just too much jumping around all over the place: some small precedent abuse it, actually a lot, the majority abuse it, i have two principles when it comes to drugs, mentions one?, all sorts of contradictions and bs on marriage, etc. but this is what sells these days until the public gets saturated :} (remember glen beck and his mentor were tv gods at one point)
he literally pushes his opinions on ppl, because he thinks they are the only logical and ethical way to live. but he has just been raised to believe that shit bc his parents are small minded like him. NOT STUPID. but unable to feel and empathize other people's experiences and pain
Weed is the reason why I’m thriving while living with Crohn’s disease. Been to the hospital 12 times in 4 years. Started taking edibles and smoking weed, haven’t been in the hospital in 7 months! I thank weed for helping me get back to my daily life.
Go look at Twitter and you'll quickly learn that conversations like this with Joe are obviously the most dangerous things to our democracy.. 🙄 people that don't watch this show but listen to news outlets sound bites from the shows are idiots for never trying to understand the full picture.
I had one the worst weed addictions and I can safely say that it’s only addiction I’ve ever dealt with. With any sort of stimulant or drug, your body gets too used to running on it and I went crazy not paying attention to how much I’d go through. I went on a road trip with my family and I had almost every single type of side effect weed had to offer. I couldn’t eat for close to 2 days full, I had cold sweats everywhere, and mental clarity was not there at all. Realized that trip the addiction is real and I’ve done great once acknowledging it and preventing it ever again. Anything could be addictive to an extent and I felt closest to a junkie I ever had in my life.
When I came off Suboxen back in 2014, it was a nightmare for weeks. The withdrawal causes horrific insomnia, and you go through mental cloudiness just as long.
3:50 "Unintended externalities". I worked at a liberal arts university that received federal funding. My coworker was a pastor in his free time (I didn't know that before this incident). In a sermon, he expressed his opinions about gender dysphoria (he was critical of same-sex marriage because of his religious beliefs). A student found and circulated the sermon on social media. Coworker was abrubtly fired from his job at the university. With that, he lost housing, health insurance for himself and his two daughters, and his paycheck. I think about this as the pivitol event that changed my views on government overstepping. See, the university was pressured to fire him because they felt he "potentially could" act in a discriminatory manner. But there'd been no evidence of that ever happening. I didn't even know, on the job, that he had those views and I don't think he performed his job any differently because of them. Universities are under pressure to accept beliefs the government expects them to, in order to receive federal aid packages. If a university does something like, under-report crimes in their cleary report, then they could lose federal funding and students wouldn't received federal aid in their financial aid packages. That's also interesting. It's been described to me this way, but I don't know when/where/what universities it's happened to. I feel like my coworker was wrongfully terminated because of his personal religous beliefs, and the loss greatly impacted the stability of his household.
This is legit 23 minutes of Rogan trying to convince Ben to smoke a doinkie with him LOL
Mr. Quantum Nuts I was thinking the same thing😂😂
@@chartarded4818 I think ben needs a beer and a hit of weed. His voice might actually drop
Lol yea n I fkn wish he would lol
5:53
You're absolutely right.
Joe:weed can be good
Ben: i agree
Joe: wanna smoke
Ben: I dont do drugs
Joe:but weed should be legal
Ben: i agree
Joe: ji jitsu fighters
You just can't top that argument. 🤣
Lmaooo
Ju jitsu
Lmaoooo
1000REMBOY jiu
Joe: weed should be legal
Ben: I agree with you
Joe: Moses took dmt
Ben: perhaps
😂😂
me: i raped a man
@Dominic Aubuchon thankyou, dominic
Do they discuss that in this video?
Ben, the two of us need look no more
We both found what we were looking for
With a friend to call my own
I'll never be alone, and you, my friend, will see
You've got a friend in WEEEEEEEED!
I’m not a Ben Shapiro fan. He often comes across as a bit smarmy. However, this is one of the best examples of two people of slightly different opinions having a really great discussion without over emotion. Also big respect for saying where he doesn’t have knowledge and not having an opinion. I think both Ben and Joe were both very good in this interview. We need more discussions like this in our society.
that's what i think is the problem....not too many people can have reasonable discussions regardless of what 'side' they are on. just listen to the other person and then make your judgement. this is a great response by you.
Totally Agree 👍
I’m not a fan of either Joe or Ben. I watched this because of the topic, followed by two people that I do not admire at all. But I must say, it was a great debate. Well-spoken, they listen to each other & aside from Joe about five times, there’s no red herrings
I agree. I very much love how he says these are my personal beliefs & morals but you’re free to do as you want without my judgement. Just because you don’t agree with something or an opinion doesn’t mean there’s judgment or meanness. Simply, “respectfully disagree”. So many people want to argue now or if you don’t agree they take it personal 😹😹😹 not everything is mean.
That’s because they actually both agree that marijuana should be legal. This is a middle ground that they agree on. Even people who generally have different views/opinions can have things they agree on. Contrary to what the media wants us to believe, humans aren’t always polar opposites despite some contrasting opinions.
Ben Shapiro doesn't need drugs if he seems like he is on speed or cocaine all the time.
That man is always on 2x talking speed
He’s just high on logic and facts
Need to get him to smoke so he can relax a bit and slow down lol
He diffidently has an adderall prescription though.
Stress from a crappy sex life.
Ben Shapiro constantly talks like he's just been told he has 5 seconds left before we go to a commercial break
Lmao I'm dying
Tim Pool on here too. They both talk like theres an elevator door closing lmao.
he thinks talking fast asf = winning every argument lmao
Probably adderall... funny that a lot of these people that don't 'smoke weed personally' are all for taking a shitload of prescription amphetamines or adderall until theyre gakked out of their minds like steven crowder or ben shapiro talking like a damn chipmunk lmao
yep..annoyin
This dude is literally every member of The Big Bang Theory in one person.
Underrated
Gilmore girls. My ex loved that show. I couldn’t understand a fucking word
🤣
Lmfao
BAHHAHAHAHAHA
I would like to say thank you to ben and joe for taking the time to have such a healthy and intelligent conversation that actually benefits everyone. It is soooo refreshing.
Extremely refreshing
They aren’t taking time out of their day like your saying. Their making money this is their job
@@Lexidezi225 Don't be a contrarian just to seem clever...
Now, yes folks, we get to smell skunk in our backyards and on every city street, and there is NOTHING you can do about it. It is STILL addictive and STILL a gateway drug to even worse drug addiction. This is no longer your grandma’s weed. It is over 50% more potent and devastating for kids. this is so bad all the way around. Ben, what are you thinking?!!!
If Joe Rogan ever gets Shapiro to smoke a blunt with him, he shall be named supreme leader of the galaxy.
Stop wasting my God dam tax money
Shanty Cruz Your money goes to buying shitty skilcraft toilet paper, you’re nothing special guy.
@Michael Thompson he literally just explained his whole stance on weed in this video, this comment is willfully ignorant
@Michael Thompson You clearly didn't watch the video at all.
His new title would be VP Rogan
I microdose with mushrooms for PTSD, was also addicted to pain pills 370 pounds walking with a cane , Now with cannabis and mushrooms I’m 189 no more pills no more addiction
Thats great to hear man my dad does the same thing and since he quit pills hes been a much happier person
@@tylermiavlogs5441 much Happier that’s for sure
@@robbie8620 how did you lose that much weight? Im struggling to lose weight too and every time i smoke weed i just wanna eat until my stomach hurts
Only drink water. working out as little sugar as possible and I just suffer through the munchies , a lot of my weight gain was from medication the VA Docs gave me
@@robbie8620 sweets aint a problem for me but i just love eating so much i can barely contain myself when im sober. Guess i ll have to quit smoking forever cause even if i lose the weight i ll gain it back if i start again
Joe Rogan: Have you ever had any experience with Marijuana?
Ben: No
Joe Rogan:*Nows my opportunity*
Lmaooo
lol!
Joe Rogan: ¿Quieres?
GravityX999 _ LOLLLL
@@projectvivid9090 He literally said nothing about hallucinations... might want to brush up on your comprehension skills
I'm so glad to finally see Ben talking to someone who can disagree yet still laugh with each other
if you set the speed to 0.75 joe sounds drunk and ben sounds like he's talking at normal speed
samarztk lmao you’re right
😂😂😂
That’s how Ben thinks we all sound when we speak.
@@zechariahcifuentes7002 thats hilarious and probably true.
So true!!!
Ben -politics
Joe - thats cool bro but have you tried DMT, even Moses done that
joe showed us where ben was contradicting himself in his form of believe what is embedded in dark age and fuedal age relgious traditionality of realisms and ideals. whilst with science furthering us in the information age the moses and the burning bush had to be a hallucination from a drug induced activity or mental disfragmentation showing that pyschoactivity in the bible is a good thing if the story of moses is supposed to be a sign of good like jews and christians say it is. this is exactly what ben opposes ben needs to further his mind to openess and his views contradict and put him in some ways absloutly wrong. joe is trying to break bens stigma on a matter ben knows a shallow amount of information on the matter as he kept himself withdrawn and conservative in thought and stature in his life of the subject of drugs and the ideas at large in this debate shown that.
Lol
AJ Roidleh Religion is a dead end road so Ben is someone I have trouble listening to. He comes off somewhat educated but he's inhibiting himself
James Hughes it was not a proven science! Just a theory trying to manipulate people’s belief in God.
Was taking a hit from my blunt reading and saw your comment, nearly fucked up my hit laughing
My 75 y/o grandpa in 2010-“reefer drugs are bad and are the devils work!”
My 80 y/o grandpa dying of cancer in 2015- “hand me the cookie with weed in it so I can scarf these chili dogs in a few minutes and spend some time with you”
True story.
Average Joe wow that’s change of pace
Is it the weed.. or cancer?
I had a similar experience with my grandpa. He was always against it until he found out he was dying of cancer. I've never seen an 80 year old man smoke a joint so damn quick. He could eat and he wanted to spend time with us more. Without marijuana in his life towards the end we wouldnt have gotten those few last memories.
Damn man
@@hrishikeshparab1236 fuck you Arthur
"When I was 16 I was a CHIMP" 😂😂
I know, that line cracked me up 🤣
😂😂😂... Exactly my reaction too 😅. 😂
Ben: I’m a virgin
Joe: DMT
Leon 123 if you do DMT you won’t be a virgin anymore because the universe will fuck you.
Part Of All lmao best comment
He's not a virgin, ya fool!! He said in the video he got his religious marriage certificate, so he could 'shtook' his wife!! Shtook is Jewish for doing it, which is teen talk for bumping uglies, which is geezer talk for coitus, which is science talk for fucking, which is cool talk for sexual intercourse, which is unnecessary - I mean, just say sex right!?
Best comment 😂😂
BOOM!
Shapiro permanently on 1.5x speed.
True, he sounds normal at 0.75x speed
Nick Wurthmann joe sounds normal on 1.5
I'm on warp speed at 2x goin to andromeda
Nick Wurthmann fax
3:20 at 1.75x
I really, really, really, wish, this is how politicians talked in debates. Calm, friendly, and not arguing. They disagree on certain things, but respect the others opinions.
Yeah especially the part where they talk on 2.0x speed.
I’d love to vote for someone human.
@YexaC what’s that reason?
Politics is the worse way to solve any problem.
Politics is dead.
Politics is like an app that has never had an upgrade while just falling behind while the rest.of the world moves forward.
We should put science at for front to solve problems and get rid of all those old bags that don't even remember their own name.
@@FURIOSO84 But what if science doesnt know the answer to everything and we aren't sure what is the best way to do stuff . Then how do we decide our actions?
I always love the phrasing "in my opinion". A lot of people these day's don't understand that it just clarified that that's what they think, instead of them feeling it as an absolute. Which drastically changes observations. Joe is a legend for setting an example
How does he sneak jiu-jitsu into every conversation regardless of how irrelevant it is?
yes
cause jiu-jitsu is so universal that it can apply to most things or vice versa
Because he has mastered the subject knows everything he can and use it in a situation that makes it easier to understand for a person who hasn’t experienced it
Ever taken the time to do your research to realize that Jiu-Jitsu IS relevant any SOOOO MANY facets of mind, body, and soul?
@@lanceking7273 I am not saying jiu-jitsu is a bad example. I am just saying that there are maybe better examples he could've used. Not EVERYTHING has to do with martial arts.
This is the adult version of “Come on man, just try it, everyone’s doing it.”
IXI SHADES IXI like food you have to measure carefully
I prefer the illuminati version. Have a bold guy talk fancy about weed and legalize it like alcohol.
Come on man. Try it. Moses did
Edward Garcia talk to god, trust just try it
You win the comment section haha
*Pro tip: put the playback speed to 0.75 = Joe sounds high, Ben sounds like a normal human*
This worked very well
Omg this is the greatest shit ever hahaha
Nah ben sounds like he's a few beers in and really vibing
😭😭
And if you put x1.25 Ben’s words are inaudible 🤣
This is how mature people have a conversation.
Normal people: “I don’t know, I’m not sure”
Ben: “I haven’t compiled the evidence for a thorough review”
he chooses his words carefully, even at that talking rate haha
radiowallofsound he said he is a libertarian yet wants to ban pot shops and liquor store from his neighborhood 🤣🤣🤣🤣 he is a fucking idiot
jorge osorto not really. Ben doesn’t wanna live near a store that’s bound to attract trash..who’s the idiot🤡
🔫🔫💰💰☘️🍻🚗
@@tonyoso1391 he still claimed that he was conservative in his morals, morally he wouldn’t want a pot shop or liquor store near him & his family.
If Ben Shapiro smoked weed, he’d be playing Jazz on his violin instead of classical
Comment rank: Master
how do you play jazz on a violin?
Alex Gibbs just like Stéphane Grappelli did.
He'd be playing something wild like Idk, the main theme of Game of Thrones.
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Prefect example that people can agree to disagree without yelling at each other. Wonderful interview.
If there is nothing at stake for them its really ez to not yell
@@wirdjadochnichts There is never anything at stake in a discussion.
@@lyricaljesus4078 this comment has to be a joke
@Mr.Beant I think people have allways been like that. Covid has shown what people are willing to do when crysis occurs
@@benjamincho4819 NDT always be like that, he talked as if his statement is the most right, an can't be wrong.... acts as he has the utmost authority
Its a breath of fresh air to see 2 people who are intelligent and disagree but yet maintain civility and friendship.
In an alternate universe in a dmt podcast called the dmt expirience where one pinch of dmt is interveiwing another.
DMT: "Have you ever done Joe Rogan?"
Dude you're living on a different planet.
@@dollysjha2490 your living on my planet and your the pinch of dmt
😂😂😂😂 Noice! I can feel those endorphins being released and a mad reduction of epinephrine and cortisol! It's changing my perceptions... Ahhh... Feels gooooood!!
I'm surprised the fda doesn't consider laughter, to be non-beneficial!
What the fuck?
What the fuck
This is a beautiful conversation. I agree with Joe pretty much the whole way, but these people very clearly disagree in such an respectful, adult way. This is far more rare than it should be.
MysterySteve: The Pathetic Gamer I agree more with Ben. People like yourself and Joe smoke weed and personally we don’t have a problem with it. I just don’t expect you guys to shove it down our throats to accept it and smoke it ourselves if we choose not to. Like he said “this is a free country” we should all do what we want without someone forcibly trying to bring their ideas for everyone else to believe.
@@esdrassalgado8850 Agreed. As long as you're not hurting anyone without their consent, live and let live.
esdras salgado don’t you think you should see what youre talking about though like experience it
Fuck all of you. You’re all wrong. Smoke weeds and drink beers. 420 mother fuckers!!!
Underrated comment 🙏🏽
I really respect that Ben says he doesn’t know enough about a topic when he doesn’t.
Ohhh boy, find joe rogan stephen A. Hosting it would be a treat for you
What? This virgin in a suit constantly misspeaks 😂
@@Bbgm95 he has 2 kids
@@Bbgm95 🤣🤣🤣 Oh god lol, you're IQ must be room temperature or below lol.
David Strauss because I made a virgin joke. Only dummies are the ones taking it seriously 😳
This was probably the best video I’ve seen in a while.
Joe "I don't wanna let this marijuana thing go yet" Rogan
😂 yes
Kayann Henry i literally read that as he said that i’m terrified
Jacson Dowell what the fuck same
talks about ben going on a minute and a half rant but then starts talking about the good sides of marijuana for a good 10 minutes or more
This is the best "Joe ____ Rogan" one XD
I love how Joe let's his guest finish speaking before he starts his arguments, he shows a lot of respect. He's a good dude
then there’s ben lol
@@TheGoaterGoat perhaps, but he's not just interjecting to hear himself talk while dismissing the other person. He's responding to whatever is being said thus contributing to the conversation as a whole. Theres a big difference
That’s part of why he and the guest wear headphones
I would like this comment but it’s currently at 420 likes..
@@sidraMPatty enter niel degrasse tyson
Joe "I don't wanna let this marijuana thing go just yet" Rogan.
CineCool Video
Its so annoying when people say that about anything.
@johnwayne87 No. But its already established. We know his point of view and Bens. So to say that only means you want to continue arguing about it. Who the hell wants to be around that?
DmanDice Because he was bringing another reasoning point as a pro about the use of psychedelics and marijuana
Fritz 45ACP
But ben isnt against the use of marijuana. So why keep drilling talking points to someone that A: isnt against it and B: clearly doesnt want to talk about it anymore.
Fritz 45ACP
You have friends? Ever force them to keep talking about something? Especially if they dont care either way? Youd be annoying as fuk
Amazing podcast between two critical thinkers. Struggle is absolutely a part of life even if people are doubtful because they would rather live in a world of comfort. You learn and grow as a human being in times of turmoil if you have the right mental compass guiding you through tough times.
Your comment should be top comment. I don't know if you believe in the afterlife but I've followed literally hundreds of near-death-experience stories where people claim to have gone to "the other side" during clinical death and most have reported that they met with higher beings that reminded them that life is supposed to be difficult and challenging for the purpose of spiritual growth and learning. There's so much cohesiveness with their stories that I believe life after death is probably true. This knowledge has given me the strength to cope with hardship more effectively than the average person. I've been through the lowest of the low and I came out of it a much stronger person with more wisdom. I really feel like I meant to go through terrible stuff to get where I am now. My mother in-law on the other hand, doesn't cope well with hardship. Not to sound mean, and there's no way to sugarcoat it, but she's an extremely stupid and unintelligent person. She's 70-something and not at all wise or seasoned. She's a "young soul" and comes across as someone who's learned absolutely nothing. She feels that life has cheated her, that everything's unfair and that she should never have to suffer or have any hardship. Her mentality is so immature and unrealistic. She doesn't see the opportunities for lessons in hardship. I do. That's why I don't sulk or feel sorry for myself for the challenges I have in life. I view it as something I was meant to experience and for a good purpose. Life is what it is and we must make the best of it and learn to live in the now and enjoy what we have.
@@BadDriversOfNapa Very detailed, I appreciate your comment and perspective. In my own life, this relates to the practice of Stoicism. Marcus Aurelius was evidently able to deal with all the hardships he was dealt with in his lifetime--living by the philosophy of "the obstacle is the way." When you look at everything as either a lesson or a success, rather than a failure or a success, it can change your life dramatically; as long as you have a healthy perspective on what the lesson might be, and are truthful with yourself during the reflection process. I honestly believe that many people would become immune to depression, if they practiced this way of thinking. It's easy to say that you're depressed and reach for crutches in life while you claim to be a victim of circumstance. It's arguably more challenging yet more virtuous in my opinion, to take control of your own life and to understand that there are things outside of your control. There are many people that have it much worse than you do. Nothing is stopping you from making do with what you've got while moving forward, other than your own mind. The mind is analogous to a "tool" in my view; it's your choice on how to use it effectively and also your responsibility to keep it sharp.
I think there's far too much stigma around some of these substances. If you view them as a tool, they can be used for great things but dangerous depending on circumstance as well. Nothing is ever viewed as black and white when I think about things. I think it's probably bad for younger adults with developing brains. I think that benefits can be gained by those who need it for a variety of appropriate reasons in my book. I have the same viewpoint on psylocibin. My theory around that, is that developed brains with less neuroplasticity are stuck in certain ways, and chemicals like this can re-open pathways that normally wouldn't be open, as a way to "reboot" the system. As this relates to the studies around aiding with depression, and seeing my father develop depression over time, this makes a ton of sense to me. Especially, given the fact that you hear stories about people curing their depression on their own, once something "clicks" in their own mind about their own life during self-reflection. Mindset should be something that society explores more deeply in my opinion. It's much more important than any other topic.
@@TheAceInfinity Yes, indeed. I agree with just about all of what you said. Ever since gaining wisdom about what life is really about, I no longer have a victim mentality. I now see every hardship as an opportunity for growth and an opportunity to do something great. My wife is being forced out of a job that's always made her happy......being forced out because of physical damage to her hands brought about by the job itself. She's going to have to go outside her comfort zone and relearn how to deal with difficult people for her next job (a job that isn't so physically demanding as her current one is). But I remind her that when one door closes, another door opens. People get so wrapped up in self-pity and victimhood that they don't see new opportunities right in front of them. They sulk so badly they don't look for solutions. Any time things get tough, I start looking for solutions rather than sit around and sulk. Every problem has a solution or a workaround.
My take on recreational drugs is this. I don't do them myself, but I don't frown upon people who do, unless they're doing them to "escape" their problems. Problems are meant to be faced head on and dealt with, rather than running away from them or sweeping them under the rug. I do like to drink, but never to the point where I'm drinking to numb myself or escape my duty to face my problems. And never to the point where I'm poisoning my liver. Moderation is key.
I added a new song to my playlist which got me thinking about what my "drug" is. The jazz chillhop group _Down To The Bone_ has a song called "Music Is My Drug". It got me to connect the dots. Music IS my "drug". Jazz and chillhop will always lift my mood when I'm down and make me feel energetic and ready to take the world by the balls. Music gives me a boost when I need it. So, it's the endorphins from the music giving me that "high". I don't use that to escape my problems but rather to give me that needed boost to then face my problems with more confidence. Now, I gotta go listen to that song again...... lol
So true
Joe “ can we argue about weed”
Ben “I agree with you though”
Joe “but can we argue cuz we don’t agree”
Ben” but we do agree”
Joe “but can we argue?”
That's basically how it went 😂😂
ha ha ha ha... So truee. Thanks for pointing this out
Ben “no because I agree with you.”
Joe “but I want to argue.”
Ben “no.”
Joe “what about DMT.”
People who smoke aren't satisfied with you saying "smoke if you want, we don't want to criminalize it". They want (may even need) you to say "ok ok fine smoking is good for you so let's smoke together".
Jennifer Quiroz
Lol. That’s true 😂😂👍🏻👍🏻.
I know it's been stated but I love how these two can disagree and still get along. I sure miss that in society.
Yeah. It's called a discussion. I miss those too!
Agreed, so sad how most people can’t have a civil debate anymore :(
in politics, people have been so well divided that they think the other side is going to end the world or some shit. like relax, if the worlds gonna crumble its probably gonna be a team effort.
@@rileygraham8952 exactly man just be nice to everyone even tho you disagree in one thing should never stop you from being their friend bc you’re going to agree with each other on other things just set those aside and love thy neighbor the world is ugly enough why just argue and belittle people for their different views. I see people who have never even met each other just being nasty to each other in comment sections all the time from both sides. Just chill out and realize there’s gonna be things that you can’t change people’s mind about and the other way around and love everyone you’ll be a lot happier with how you see the world
2019 was the last year this could happen ong
Imagine being Ben's wife and having an argument with him... poor woman
This has been said a billion times oml
I'm ever so sorry that you had to see this comment again...
Rhetoric I hear she's a doctor
Wash the dishes Ben. Statistically speaking I have done the vacuuming and dishes....STFU I'll do it
@JMDSC1507 I've seen an English reporter beat him. Ben acted like a complete child and quit the interview
*This type of conversation needs to be placed in a time capsule.*
This interview is just brain orgasm. How they have totally different ideas but still have a smooth respectful back and forth is just amazing.
They don't have different ideas though, that is what Ben kept saying. Joe was just making assumptions because Ben didn't say "I agree with you."
I hope you cringe at some point when you read back your comments like this.
shvettybetty give him a year when he’s out the rabbit hole haha
That's the power of conservatism
It’s rare in this day in age
Ben: I’m a Jew
Joe: HAVE YOU HEARD OF DMT
im crying 😭 but he's right.
Lol
I'm glad Joe actually puilled the DMT card
Winston Churchill well id call that an up most logical response
Momma Said Momma Said Momma Said, shit....
This interview is proof of why Rogan, and Ben are so popular. They have completely different back grounds and differences in beliefs, but they can still have a rational, calm. A non threatening approach from both sides. THIS is how you debate and have a productive discussion. No mystery to me why they're both so popular!
Joe is popular, Ben is a lunatic.
he is only rational calm because hes on joe rogans space becuase if not he would be calling weed smokers crackheads. hes brainwashed by religion and man made rules from the gospel books. wearing stupid hats signs of opression and authority to invisible beings in the sky. ahahaha ben shapiro is gay
@@ricardomartinhodacruz Don't fool yourself. You're also brainwashed. We're all brainwashed. Our source of our brainwashing is just different...Also, have you not been listening to the discussion on this video. The use of marijuana and the community of church/religion, both have their positive and negative aspects. i.e., marijuana disrupts healthy brain development but can take the edge off...Silly hats but a community influence toward a united moral value.
@@wolverinesfight1213 you believe what you believe. for me theres no positive at all in following organized religions, miseducating people by using coercion tactics on human morality and ideals. I actually believe religion is the source of genocide, war, racism, moral superiority, absolutism, imperialism, discrimination, homophobia, transphobia, etc. go read any gospel book (which is the pillar for anyone follwing religion by the way) even tho religious people never read extensively what they preach or believe which shows lack of consciousness too loool and youll see that the books are full of hate speech and basic stupidity. refuting humbred of years of scientific knowledge, laws of physics, biology, anthropology. ignorance is a bliss. educating children on religon is dangerous and terrorism
@@wolverinesfight1213 community church is the synonym for a bunch of dudes who have nothing more to do than talk about how jesus is gonna come on earth and save us all. basic stupidity. tell that to all kids dying right now in ukraine or victims of rape. where is jesus now? the fact that mohammed was 50 yo when he impregnated a minor with 15yo. bruh Im not brainwashed go read some books
I like this interview.
I am conservative, but I have had extensive experience with various substances. This was a beautiful interview. Thank you, Joe and Ben. 😊👍🏻
Joe “When you eat edibles the THC is processed in your liver and your body produces something called 11-hydroxy metabolite which is five times more psychoactive than THC” Rogan
Little Sheeple you win 😂😂😂
I want to make werewolf movies
Classic 😁😁😁
Little Sheeple we’ve only heard joe say it about a billion times lol
So don't eat the whole brownie.
Joe “when I was 16 I was a chimp” Rogan
OhMyJosh I thought this comment was a joke lmao
Sounds like a Beck song
Damn u beat me to it
😂😂
Joe “I don’t want to let this marijuana thing go just yet” Rogan
I’m a Christian and I agree with your views of traditional religious marriage good on you Ben for speaking out about that!!!! Hopefully you get the message out to many young people it just makes the marriage so much better!!!
I can appreciate Bens point. He doesn't personally believe in it but isn't for controlling other peoples decision to do so.
If we actually know what's best for other people maybe we should force them to act rightly?
@@sirfitnesswreggitt6108 slippery slope
@@sirfitnesswreggitt6108 Very slippery slope
@@sirfitnesswreggitt6108 EXTREMELY slippery slope
@@sirfitnesswreggitt6108 so authoritarianism
Ben seems to be doing okay without weed. Joe seems to be doing okay with weed. To each his own.
Agreed
Absolutely
Ben Shapiro is such a nerd lmao
@@yusufgazi7 😐 haha....
Ben seems a bit tense and neurotic. Weed can help lol
This is two very smart men, with very different opinions. Having a civil argument and conversation. So refreshing.
Yeah..but who "shtooks" more?...you see....that is the paradox....😂😂😂
@@ivantomic8474 Oh for SURE Joe
@ 😂😂
There is nothing refreshing about Ben Shapiro’s voice however
@@stillmatic03 Your mom's voice is refreshing
I am ADHD. When you talked about high jujitsu, I immediately understood the the focus example.
Joe “scientists in Jerusalem believe the burning bush Moses spoke to was actually the acacia tree which is rich in dmt which could’ve given him the thought he talked to god but in reality it was a dmt trip” rogan
more realistic than a "god" being here with us or was or is ? XDDDDDDDDDDD
One of the WEIRDEST theories I’ve ever heard him postulate 😂😂
@Ramona Flowers Ramona, you can use my head for sub-space travel anytime.
It’s easy to extract the dmt from the polverized bark
He do be bringing that up ALL the time lol
Joe : "Don't drink when you arent 25+"
16 year old germans : "Hold my beer"
Prost!
Yea, when it comes to drugs, our government is fucking retardes. Drink until you pass out with 16 but weed is straight from the devil and you'll go to jail for it.
14 year old Germans
@@qipteq1786 in german we call people like you "schwachtrinker"
@@qipteq1786 thats fucking bullshit. Im from Germany and I know noone that suddenly stopped drinking beer because its "haram". Stop making shit up about other countries to fuel your wrong political opinions. I bet youve never been to Europe once, probably watched too much Fox News.
Ben Shapiro: I have no personal experience with marijuana but think the government should stay out of it. Basically I agree with you, Joe.
Joe Rogan: but no, wait, here’s why you should be in favor of it.
Jim DeMassi this clip is exhausting. It’s one of the few subjects Rogan feels he has a set opinion about so he just wouldn’t let it go.
@Captain Danger Where is it written that Jews can't smoke the green?
@Captain Danger He just feels like that's an arena where conservatives and liberals can agree and maybe solve some of this divisive behavior, so if he can get Ben behind it, then he can ease some of the stigma to his audience too.
@@osufan77 LOL yeah man that's kinda the point. Ben was telling him "it's not for me, but I am onboard with whatever people wanna do" and Joe kept the sales pitch going. It's like I already agreed to buy the car, stop selling it to me. ;-)
@Allen Ellsworth
1 Corinthians 6:19 - your life and body are gifts from god. Glorify him by how you treat your body
1 Corinthians 3: 16,17 - Don’t destroy your body basically
Leviticus 19:28 - don’t scar yourself or tattoo your flesh.
1 Peter 5:8 - stay sober minded. You’ll be vulnerable to Satan
There’s much more. But the idea is not to pollute your body or your mind. Getting drunk and smoking weed are guilty of both
Living next to a pub is a nightmare, the noise the fights the police the litter and the pissing all over my house, comparing a pub to a pot shop is not fair.
Respect to a human who never took any substances, and still is so open mindet about it!
Although It seems like a odd thing to me.
I guess you believe everything someone on the internet tells you lol. He looks more like a snorter
@wraith Ever tried a drug before? Seems like you need some weed in your life. Or shrooms. 😎😎🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅
Ben Shapiro litty off the Za Jordan Peterson sold him
Thats the dichotomy... He's cool with weed but also cool with Israeli ethnic cleansing of Palestinians.
Joe- "I'd like to speak to you about my Lord and savior DMT"
Rogan*
Hey there, I'm high.
@Foreman Surman i'm not investigating,,i'm merely observing...nipsey was investigating dr sebi
ben is the type of guy to open a bag of chips with a pair of scissors
U copied that from a Nicki Minaj video featuring drake
Omg I’m literally died
@@ap6460 it's still funny as shit though.
He doesn’t need scissors. He just destroys the bag with facts and logic
@Miguel Ok it’s not humor. It’s facts
21:36 Self-mastery, a virtue which no one seems to teach or talk about publicly which could eliminate so many arguments and problems.
An incredible conversation between two people showing massive patience with each other , so appreciate this convo in our current time
I agree. Kudos to both of them.
I gained 💯 respect for ben
Rogan would break Shapiro in half if he talked to him the way he talks to most people he debates with.
@@chaoslife9119 that is absolutely correct lol
@@chaoslife9119 i think this whole interview implies that he is largely an entertainer
Normal conversation:
Joe Rogan: *high jiu jitsu*
The conversation works out for the topic
Ben Shapiro talks like he’s trying to finish a 20 minute speech in 5 minutes
James Dennis haha yes he does..
Probably because he has to try and talk quickly on tv and against people to try and get a word in. Idk tho jus a thought
A lot of people on CA talk like this.. Clear and fast
It feels like my TH-cam is on 1.5xspeed
Caden Brust Or to prevent anyone else from getting a word in..
The best thing ever is putting this on 0.5x speed. It makes this conversation sound like those drunk guys at a party trying to have thoughtful conversations 😅
Ben: **tryina close the argument on marjiuana**
Joe: I don’t wanna let this marajuina thing go yet
People don’t get addicted to weed by chemicals they get addicted to the feeling. It’s less of a “I need to get high today” and more of a “this would be way better high” and apply that mindset to everything
Edit: I smoked weed everyday for almost 3 years and quit cold turkey when I was thinking about joining the US Air Force. the first couple of days I was mildly irritated and had more trouble falling asleep. Besides those minor side effects I felt no other symptoms. Alcohol, opioids, nicotine, amphetamines, all cause headaches, aches and pains, puking, etc. when you stop taking them due to chemical dependence. Weed doesn’t do anything to the extreme degree other drugs do. (All of this is personal experience and what I’ve learned don’t assume it’s fact)
Exactly! Including phone and video game addictions. I’m someone who is usually against drug use (including alcohol) but weed is my exception.
But yeah, getting high on weed too often is going to be unhealthy. And then you could get so addicted to the feeling of the high that you seek out other drugs. That’s the downside.
But yeah honestly, if I was to do a drug, I would much rather smoke weed than drink alcohol
my understanding is that cannabis (and the chemicals in it) release dopamine (a chemical in the brain) which is what people become addicted too. sounds chemical to me.
@@reggiefields6551 anything could be considered a chemical if you wanna think about it that way
@@reggiefields6551 that forms a chemical dependency. an actual addiction is when ceasing use creates physical/physiological changes that affect your daily life. eg alcohlics get the shakes and can even die in some cases if they go cold turkey. cannabis however nomatter the usage amount or time period has no such thing. only that the person feels they want it. some people experience a slight difficulty going to sleep for one or two days before there sleep pattern returns to normal. for most people all this means is you lay in bed for 20mins before u eventually drift off.
@@chevallavehc5591 each cell that's part of metabolically active tissue cells signals around 15,000 biochemicals a second per cell ! and most of those signaling lipids are cannabinoids !
As a Conservative pot smoker, I fully appreciate the brief, yet tactical, attempt to get Ben high on the spot. Generally, first time smokers are a blast to be around.
Blah blah blah
That's the most dangerous factor about weed. People love watching first timers
@@captainobvious8037 could you elaborate?
@@emilevangheem6165 It is entertaining to watch people who never smoked before, or in general, people who get strong reactions from weed.. which means those who own the weed are often more willing to offer a smoke for free to first timers.
@@captainobvious8037 but how is that dangerous?
Great conversation. Alcohol, sugar, and food abuse make America obese and unhealthy. Big RX has all the solutions in this bottle or injection. I agree with Ben, that having self-mastery and being accountable to yourself is paramount for solid health. You control what you put in your body every day. Living healthy pays off big time.
The respect that Joe and Ben have for each other is so inspiring. They disagree on almost every political value yet they still remain cordial and friendly. This is what we are missing in American culture, respect of our differences.
Well shaprio said he pretty much agrees with the legal aspect of it.
Well said, Hunter. I agree fully and wish all of us could put one another’s basic respect in how we talk to one another first and then sort out any indifferences.
I didn't see them disagree on anything.. They had a discussion on things.
me being from exUSSR can say that's the same case we have here. Culture of dialogue somewhere long gone down the road. Not completely, but vastly
Its not even respect, it is just a normal mature conversation. Btw chokimg out? Seriously well THATS not dangerous to the brain or nody at all? Fool
Ben: "I get to shtook my wife"
Joe: "People do Jui-Jitsu while high man"
Poor wife
Bruno: ....so how long is your shtooken?
Michael P nice man ya learn something new each day
Me and my GF will be virgins till we marry. Then we shall shtook over and over until we die
Schtup* It's Yiddish
"I know doctors who smoke Marijuana.
My wife is a doctor."
exposed
she does
I am starting to connect the dots
Yamikaiba123 LMAO 🤣
Yamikaiba123 I think he said one time “people who smoke weed annoy me” ....I forgot what it was but I think he was debating a college kid as usual
I'm 25 and take 6 different kinds of prescribed medication every single day, from Methylphenidate to Xanax, but Cannabis is especially helpful for my Autism, PTSD and depression. It just makes me giggly, in the moment, and is by far the most helpful substance I take medicinally. Don't get me wrong, it effects everyone different, but for some people, it can be incredibly helpful.
I would love to hear what other medical marijuana users use it for and how it effects them.
I'm studying psychology and substances and would love to hear more useful ways other people use cannabis to help their mental health!!!
Did you like your own comment?
@Ninnimuggins No lmao. I'm pathetic but not that pathetic :p
Joe Rogan to Liberals: You should Try DMT
Joe Rogan to Conservatives: DMT might be God. You should try DMT.
Too funny
That's literally true.
Joe and Ben agreed on almost everything here, except the fact that Joe was trying to convince Ben to try drugs.
0.75x speed is good, Joe sounds chill on weed and Ben sounds like a normal guy yeet...
Or just try 2x speed and Joe sounds like he's almost caught up to Ben's normal speed and Ben sounds like Eminem on steroids...
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Holy shit you're absolutely correct. Ben DOES sound like a normal person talking 😂😂
Lmao
This is Incredible
For me, weed took me about 3 weeks to fully get over it, meaning not wanting it or looking for it... cigarettes are the worse to get over.
Ben is the perfect example of, you can completely disagree with and be opposed to something, while understanding that it’s your choice, not everyone else’s, and you don’t have the right to force that opinion (or try to) on anyone else. That’s what freedom means
Yep, don’t vote based on your personal beliefs but on overarching ideals that you believe are best for the country
You're saying this about a guy that has openly supported the Israeli illegal occupation of Palestinian land and ethnic cleansing.
Except for the fact neither of them support freedom unless it aligns with there personal beliefs.
@@Trogderpinator That conflict is completely bias to whatever side you choose. It will never be settled.
Did you forget about his views on abortion? He perfectly fine with the state interfering with such personal decisions
Two guys, intelligent and educated, having opposite views, having a very educational discussion without judgement and no pushing one way of life or another.
imagine a society as such without the violence. Yeah I know thats sounds kumbaya if i spelled that correctly . probly not . So lets stop the hard core extreme politics. This actualy makes me lean more middle , libertarian and Im a rUNION working republican. thats non jewish ..
You are seriously viewing this as a intelligent conversation?😂
@@Jackson-cz3vl What do you view it as?
@@Carrio_Customs 1 semi intellectual and a an animal fanatic talking about the nitty gritty of cannabis laws nothing more nothing less
@@culbyj3665 emagine a society without violence We'll I live in a society like that right now I live in Southeast Asia where there is little to no violence No road rage what's the weather very peaceful the people here have been raised a little different and I guess because it is a crowded part of the world people have learned to hide their emotions to save face I love being around people that do not seem to get upset easily I'm sure there are some people here that do and I'm sure there are some violence I have not seen it and in America I see it all the time and have been a part of it you change your views when you travel the world and see different cultures not to say America is that bad I love my country but we do have way too much violence in America
Joe “Don’t smoke pot when you’re young (more for me)” Rogan.
AlphaDog Elite3 too late Dude! No one said that in 1975
Lmao
I agree
Until your brain's fully formed you should not smoke
@@deepdish2034 Then a lot of people should never smoke because I don't think their brains ever fully formed
@@hairtrigger8317 actually I am talking about physical development not maturity
4:50 "Prefrontal cortex development". And YET 16 yo is when I enrolled in college and began signing for debt. The kind of debt that far exceeds my parent's mortgages 11 times over. 41 yo, still in repayment, paying about 1/3 of my income to college 20+ years ago.
This is how our conversations should be if we have different views. Not someone screaming and crying that everyone should agree with them. I throughly enjoy both sides of this conversation. Respect to both of these guys.
The whole world needs to change in this way. That's why we need to legalize weed worldwide. Alcohol isn't about listening and understanding, it's about speaking and misunderstanding.
Unless you're a Marxist. Then you disband police.. Loot Target and burn down your neighborhood.. then hysterically call the cops when your house gets looted.
But I think a lot of people don’t even want to dignify the arguments of the far-right. It is difficult to communicate with those so idiotic.
@@Hillberty224 both sides need to find the middle ground, and start there. It takes two to tango, regardless of your personal beliefs.
Most conservatives I know do have conversations like this when they aren't being screamed at and demonized for simply being conservative. And don't get me wrong, I'm not naive to the fact that in some places it is opposite, where liberals get ganged up on by conservatives. Where I live it is very liberal and in some places, I am genuinely worried about being open with my ideology. My kids wore their masks in school after masks were made optional because they said if they took them.off they would be bullied and called Republicans. So I think ppl on both sides need to realize that these things happen from both ends...and it is wrong no matter what. I respect liberals and truly believe our country needs a good balance of both sides because it helps move us forward with dreams, with common sense, with purpose and for the betterment of all. It is sad where our politicians have allowed this to get to where we are. In my opinion, many of them need to go...and we need to elect normal, moderate Dems and Reps and get back to a level of normalcy...and this is how I and almost every single conservative I know think. Right now though, at least in my area....as soon as you say anything right leaning....it goes from a conversation to an accusation (racist, natzi, redneck, homophobe...etc etc). It is just hard to have conversations when ppl automatically hate you or devalue your ideas and opinions. And again, I know this happens in the reverse as well. Hope we can get back to respectfully communicating.
If you play this at 0.75x speed ben sounds like he’s talking normally
If you play at .5 speed he sounds super drunk
Dayyuuuummmmmm
Ye are right my friend!!!
Joe sounds stoned out of his mind😂😂
Play at 1.25. Joe sounds like Ben 😑
For the longest time i believed that Ben often makes his “opponent” look dumb. Joe has made it clear that in fact Ben’s opponent make themselves look dumb. Joe is an intelligent man who doesn’t let his emotions dictate a debate. And in my opinion, they both represented their beliefs respectfully and nobody was made a fool. This is one of the better interviews I’ve watched.
Very well written comment, I totally agree. Very good debate to watch.
It seemed like joe was trying to have a disagreement. And Ben would just agree lmao.
Hardly makes his opponents look dumb.
@@mattboemer4549 just a Ben hater
Shilling for Ben I see. You should watch his BBC interview of him Destroying himself. Ben only debate first year college/university students. Never anyone with real knowledge. This little shiller always backs down or go cry to mommy.
gotta love some Joe and Ben sitting down being real as real can get. Respect
Ben gets married*
Ben- Let the shtooking begin 😏
Joe Rogan: “you can just go buy a jug of whiskey and drink the whole thing and your dead”
Stevewilldoit: “you sure”
He throws it up tho.
Michael C took the words out of my mouth
MrJasminL still drinks it tho
*Shoenice
**shoenice has entered the chat**
Joe “its entirely possible that DMT was put here by god” Rogan
lmao Ahahahah
Joe is idiot
Gediminas Jesinas how so? I genuinely want to tell you how it can be entire possible and evidence why it makes sense
@@RynaxAlien you sound like the idiot 😂
Best coverage of all imaginable factors about this conversation
Joe “I was a chimp” Rogan
😂😂😂
Comment stealer
ooh ohh ahh ahh, hello freak bitches
That's why he's so obsessed with chimps
Anybody: marijuana is bad
Joe Rogan: But the jiu jitsu community
Kyle hogan haha He just started talking about BJJ as I strolled the comments and read yours 🌲
@John Lydon What you can and can't do is fairly relative and different strains can make a difference. I guess u can connect with the art of jiu jitsu more and use that awareness that bud can give u to focus and read movements etc. Weed is epic
John Lydon cuz your the lazy dude their talking about. Try getting out and burning one then go grapple. Exactly what Joe said. You zone into what your doing. You zone into your video games but it works for a lot of things we do.
@@kahiwahiwaokalanikiaaina3533 Fucking oath. It CAN be hard to get into the zone but once your in, it's quite phenomenal. Reading a book after sparking up can be difficult but once your in, it's a real incredible experience.
Quaintium I burn everyday since I was 15. Now 40. Herb has given me a better attitude, calmed by anxiety and allows me focus on what I’m doing at that time. I’d if you agree with me or not but I definitely understand what you mean about even reading a book becomes more enjoyable. Listening to music is better. A day at a beautiful Hawaiian beach is more enjoyable and making love with your wahine is definitely more feeling or enjoyment. Herb has also saved me from being a meth addict. I been off that shit and clean for almost 4 years now and without it I don’t know if I’d even still be here. I’m not in favor of kids burning but CBD for kids would probably help get them off pharmaceuticals. Herb is the real healing of the nation. It’s brings strangers together and become friends.
I vote Republican and smoke marijuana. I have a great job and a great family. Marijuana is awesome. So much better than alcohol.
Alexis Ault
Yup.LSD is also cool.
We need more people like you
What do you do for a living? I find it hard to find a job that is cool with weed.
You vote for the party that's more against drugs..?
@@lonerlink1993 Yes I do. No party is perfect. I don't consider Marijuana a drug though.
6:52 when he said rolling lol... i was like "yes they gon talk about mdma" lollll
One thing I really admire about Ben as a religious person is that he has learned to separate his own personal beliefs from what he may believe what is right for others.
It's hard for me to admire this guy. He is smart and I like that about him, but also I think there is no way he can actually believe some of the nonsense he talks about and he just says it for his base. Ben is just driving very fast down one road in one lane. That's fine, but that isn't the way to truth in my opinion. He claims to know what god wants and any human that talks like this is just MAKING STUFF UP!
Joe, on the other hand, has to interrupt every discussion to lecture himself on the benefits of marijuana. So fantastically tedious.....nobody cares...
@@harperq8559 Then why are you watching a video on it.
@@HighStakesDanny he's smart in the sense that he and a few others have built a network of 'clicks for merchandise' like nothing else on the conservative/religious side of social media. but other than that, the guy is a wanna-be thinker. at the end of his run, like all of them, he'll be known as someone who chose to be scandalous in public for the money that comes w/ all the attention/traffic.
i stopped after 10 min, just too much jumping around all over the place: some small precedent abuse it, actually a lot, the majority abuse it, i have two principles when it comes to drugs, mentions one?, all sorts of contradictions and bs on marriage, etc.
but this is what sells these days until the public gets saturated :} (remember glen beck and his mentor were tv gods at one point)
he literally pushes his opinions on ppl, because he thinks they are the only logical and ethical way to live. but he has just been raised to believe that shit bc his parents are small minded like him. NOT STUPID. but unable to feel and empathize other people's experiences and pain
Weed is the reason why I’m thriving while living with Crohn’s disease. Been to the hospital 12 times in 4 years. Started taking edibles and smoking weed, haven’t been in the hospital in 7 months! I thank weed for helping me get back to my daily life.
Smoking doesn’t make your Crohns worse?
@@JH-go8xz nah somtimes ppl with it smoke. It like relaxes their stomach or some shit. Not sure if I’m right don’t quote me
Glad to it helped you, God gave us the marijuana plant to help us and is alright to use it
Correlation isn’t proven causation.
that is what marijuana should be used for.
A fine example of a humane conversation. You can have differing opinions and agree similarly. Always a treat Mr. Rogan
exactly :)
I love it when even they disagree there is no name calling, just very mature and nothing personal
man the whole internet should be like this. you can learn to agree to disagree
I’m not sure they disagreed on much
Go look at Twitter and you'll quickly learn that conversations like this with Joe are obviously the most dangerous things to our democracy.. 🙄 people that don't watch this show but listen to news outlets sound bites from the shows are idiots for never trying to understand the full picture.
I had one the worst weed addictions and I can safely say that it’s only addiction I’ve ever dealt with. With any sort of stimulant or drug, your body gets too used to running on it and I went crazy not paying attention to how much I’d go through. I went on a road trip with my family and I had almost every single type of side effect weed had to offer. I couldn’t eat for close to 2 days full, I had cold sweats everywhere, and mental clarity was not there at all. Realized that trip the addiction is real and I’ve done great once acknowledging it and preventing it ever again. Anything could be addictive to an extent and I felt closest to a junkie I ever had in my life.
When I came off Suboxen back in 2014, it was a nightmare for weeks. The withdrawal causes horrific insomnia, and you go through mental cloudiness just as long.
Marijuana is addicting too.....anyone who says other wise is in denial or jus flat out Ignorent
Dude you can't even spell ignorant @@screamingwarhog
Sounds like a fake story
@@adamg400 your a joke...like people make up these storys on youtube🤣
Joe is low key just peer pressuring Ben Shapiro in this video
Compared to Crowder this is chill
Jack Macri hell yeah it is, that was crazy
😂😂
I totally agree!...... except for the "low key" part :P
Swag candy low key for sure
I think this whole conversation is about Joe trying to get Ben to do DMT with him😂
I would LOVE to do DMT with Ben. It would be awesome to be there to see such a great mind open up to a much greater mind.
Mike have you heard of the toad Tyson wouldn't let go until he did. The man loves the toad and who dosnt love post toad Mike.
@@sebastiaandewit159 Agreed if he had Russel Brand level open mindedness he could change the world in a good way
People can learn a lot from how he separates how he feels personally and what he feels is the best way for a government to rule it's nation
I agree with you! Though it does concern me... if he may well try to run for presidency in 15-30years!
Yeah if we have a micromanaging government overruling everything every one will revolt like America and China
Yet he wants to impose his religious values on others through law
@@markray6113 That's the exact opposite of what he was saying
@@williamireland8084 I’m not talking about this video
3:50 "Unintended externalities". I worked at a liberal arts university that received federal funding. My coworker was a pastor in his free time (I didn't know that before this incident). In a sermon, he expressed his opinions about gender dysphoria (he was critical of same-sex marriage because of his religious beliefs).
A student found and circulated the sermon on social media. Coworker was abrubtly fired from his job at the university. With that, he lost housing, health insurance for himself and his two daughters, and his paycheck.
I think about this as the pivitol event that changed my views on government overstepping.
See, the university was pressured to fire him because they felt he "potentially could" act in a discriminatory manner. But there'd been no evidence of that ever happening. I didn't even know, on the job, that he had those views and I don't think he performed his job any differently because of them.
Universities are under pressure to accept beliefs the government expects them to, in order to receive federal aid packages. If a university does something like, under-report crimes in their cleary report, then they could lose federal funding and students wouldn't received federal aid in their financial aid packages. That's also interesting. It's been described to me this way, but I don't know when/where/what universities it's happened to.
I feel like my coworker was wrongfully terminated because of his personal religous beliefs, and the loss greatly impacted the stability of his household.
Joe bring up the Acacia DMT tree to Ben.
That’s so Rogan.
When he did that I laughed hard IRL.
Prison Mike classic Rogan..
Oh Rogan