A little bit of context for you: the reason Ben went in guns blazing (pun intended) is because he found out that backstage there was a survivor of Sandy Hook standing ready to go up there and be used as an emotional argument against Ben's policy on guns. So it was either this, or let Pierce proceed with his gross tactic of literally standing on the graves of the children of Sandy Hook. In the end, Pierce backed off and never executed his plan. So this was a huge win for Ben.
lol context matters and I've seen so many people think Ben, Peterson, Trump or whoever is blatantly wrong or misguided or evil with what they say when they are often completely right but the context is left out either intentionally or just because we simply can't know everything all the time... something the corrupt take advantage of daily.
@@danholmesfilm My favorite one of that is "There were fine people on both sides-" which is where the media cut it always, but the full sentence is "There were fine people on both sides. And just to be clear, I'm not talking about the KKK or Antifa, those people should be condemned totally." But the media saw that as "Oh my god we can spin this as Trump calling the KKK fine people! And that's what they tried to do, and so many people took it at face value and believed the lie.
I give these two credit though. Piers appeared on Ben’s show a few years later and they had a respectable conversation about numerous topics. No ill will or anything
Piers was still off IMHO, but was not the ass he was here. He doesn't accept some of the US's ideals and he was wrong statistically in both arguments. It was a better conversation though and since leaving his seat has been more of someone I would talk to than he was then.
I'm pretty sure Piers knows the definition, it's not about that, he's not stupid, but he has certain agenda that ignores the customs of an American culture he's not grown up around of.
Great point. Honestly they have polar opposite viewpoints, they both use their own tactics in debates. I'm just happy to see people getting over their differences and being able to have conversations, even if they disagree
@@lespaul36 Pierce Morgan is okay but when he talked about Meghan Markle, I think he was really hurt that she was moving to Britain to Marry the prince & Pierce knew that the wife in the UK was drastically different from the USA and had lunch with her at a restaurant in London. After that she totally snubbed him and for her not to keep in touch was probably because she's always focused on herself..
Fun fact - I've seen some interview or lecture of Ben Shapiro where he talked about this debate and why he accused Piers for standing on the graves of kids. Ben said that when right wingers argue their positions they tend to talk about facts and policies, while the left tend to talk about feelings and morality. The left tend to take the stance of "I have my opinion because i'm a moral person, therefore if you disagree you're not a moral person". As he said in this debate to Piers, they demonize those who disagree with them. So Ben's strategy in this debate was to instantly sweep Piers off of the morsal pedestal. Attack his own morality to put him on the defensive, before he can attack Ben's morality, and then go "let's move away from talking about who is more moral and actually discuss the issues themselves".
@@David-hr8mq Oh, i have no doubt. I was just sharing what i knew about Ben's particular strategy for this debate, and why he chose to open it the way he did.
@@David-hr8mq Since you want to play the whole I have been demonized by the right game and make it about you, what context did this happen? I can almost guarantee it was something you started and then try playing the victim. However, if you aren't like everyone on your side, I will apologize in advance, but judging from "the left's" history, I doubt it.
Hey Alex, I'm a conservative and love watching videos where people have these discussions: Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, Steven Crowder, Joe Rogan, etc. You're right that it's so rare to find respectful conversations today. If you disagree slightly with someone's views, you're automatically evil and "on the other team." I miss the days when we didn't know what anyone's politics were. As a kid, I had no idea who my parents/teachers/coaches, etc. voted for. Now, it's how we separate people. Kinda sad. I don't know where you stand politically, and that's refreshing. You're obviously entitled to have an opinion, and it seems like you're mostly "common sense." Most of the world is, it's the extremes on both sides that seem to be the loudest, especially online. Keep doing your thing, interesting to watch. Also dig the NF and Tom MacDonald reactions!
It is because Piers has come under the same gun that he use to support. Peirs Morgan got for lack of a better word "canceled" by the group that he was defending. He was as he said never a lefty but on this issue leaned that way. However, because he does not want all guns banned he did come under fire later. I think he saw what it was like to be attacked by the rabid emotional and logically inept people that are what is labeled the Far Left / SJW. This is why he now appreciates Ben's views more, and Ben for the most part will usually have a good conversation with people that don't come out of the gate swinging at him.
@@mbalrog6 The left basically told Piers it's an "all or nothing" proposition with them, as they do with their entire platform, there's no compromise, and he decided he couldn't give them that absolution. So it's not politics anymore, it's a ploy to obtain and maintain power...these kind of leftists tried in 1920's Germany and succeeded for about 17 years, then it all imploded and were dealt their end.
Yeah, Ben didn't have gun knowledge at this time. It's too bad, because "assault rifle" got over the airwaves w/o being challenged with fact. None of those shootings used an assault rifle.
@@willie9899 Hmm....sarcasm or stupidity? Because you can give me an AR-15 with a "murder handle" and a Mini 14 with a strap, and I can fire both equally fast and just as accurately....because they're the same gun. One just has scary looking furniture and the other has a wooden stock, that's the only difference. And fun fact, they aren't assault rifles. They are civilian models of actual assault rifles.
Good job Alex, most reactors don't show the clip beyond the initial "standing on the graves" exchange, I'm glad you did. They did another interview on DW's Sunday special in 2020 I believe that was really good and worth watching.
The not being able to find common found was 100% Peirs fault. Even Ben realizes this when he's talking about more stringent background checks. If you ask me this was just Peirs disagree with everything Ben said solely because he's Ben Shapiro
“You can’t find “common ground” based off a lie.” - Steven Crowder “I don’t believe in common ground. I believe in right and wrong, no in between. And we should ALL adhere to what is right.” - [Paraphrasing] Steven Crowder So many people want to be a little too open minded. This is how we end up with 8 million genders
@@oldschoolgamer-w4u wrong. Piers brought on a kid from sandy hook to do exactly what ben predicted and decided against it because ben called him out. It was a genius move on Ben's part and taught the audience that emotion isnt how you fix problems.
@@oldschoolgamer-w4u unnecessary, ok, but... Piers had actually done just that... it was a leftist talking point at the time. and he even had a sandy hook victim ready in the back of the show to talk, Ben had a huge point, a handfull of shootings are caused by using AR's but most of the killing is done with hand guns.... illegally obtained handguns...why choose one over the other, ban ARs even though handguns are the bigger player here? its just a show, demonize a lesser threat = votes
Ben is brutal. He makes good, straight to the point comments. I don't always agree with his view but he is being honest about his beliefs and where he stands on issues. If people could calmly talk about the issues then they might be able to find common ground.
The problem I have with "gun control" is you don't control much, if anything, by doing it. The want to change it is emotional, which yes, it's a justified feeling, but people trying to make policy from an emotional standpoint isn't gonna work well. That's why we're a constitutional republic with democratic elements like the filibuster, and not full on democracy, so the passions of the people don't turn into tyranny of the 51%. A proper red flag law might work but not under our current justice and education system. Ben's idea about mental screening is probably one of the smarter things you can do without having to have a huge spending package ( so they won't do it. Gotta pay off our kids, inlaws and other countries ) Love ya
I applaud you for reacting to Ben regardless of the hate comments. I used to clown on Ben and probably would’ve been one of the keyboard warriors in the comment section lol But I’ve recently changed my views regarding the left. And main reason I hated Ben was he MADE sense. Anyway, love these Ben reactions.
Assault weapon is anything you can use as a weapon in an assault. So calling it an assault weapon is an idiotic blanket term. That guy who drove through a parade of people does that mean there are assault cars?
The official definition of an "assault rifle" points to an automatic weapon. Automatic weapons are illegal to buy, and have been for a long while now. If every letter of the 2nd Amendment were followed, I'd be allowed to have an Abrahams tank, an F22 Raptor, and uzzies for when the gestapo government thinks they are going to come down on me. So obviously the 2nd Amendment isn't being followed by the government. Yet the Left has a problem with showing an ID to vote.... as if 1 constitutional right deserves to be limited and another 1 doesn't....
Not the true and legal definition of an assault rifle. An assault rifle is a rifle that can fire repeatedly with a single pull of a trigger. These were semiautomatic rifles. They can only fire once per trigger pull.
At 7:11 Pierce brought up Columbine. We had a assault weapon ban at the time, written by Biden. And it didn’t stop it. Evil people will do evil acts. Criminals don’t follow laws.
What is the ratio between responsible and irresponsible (legal) gun owners, and does that ratio dictate ending a right given to us in the constitution? What about stabbings? Ban knives? Death by obesity? Institute food limits? Take away cars because too many people die in car accidents? When is it right to punish the majority because of the minority?
Why not go one further? Peoples mouths get them in tons of trouble. Right? So shall we abolish free speech like so many wish? What about voting? You voted in a way I didn't like and since my party is in power you lose your right to vote because you can't be trusted to not vote against us? Somehow none of this ever applies to any other right but the 2nd. Some scumbag did a bad thing thus ALl gun owners are scumbags who need to lose their rights! As a gun owner its fucking infuriating watching people with zero knowledge about guns regulating them and making laws regarding them.
The constitution does NOT give us these rights!! These rights are inalienable. The constitution protects these inalienable rights from being taken away or stepped on by our government!! Generations now have blindly
Food and Cars, and to a lesser extent Knives are not considered weapons per se. they are talking about the regulation of an object thats sole use was designed to kill.
Steven Crowder (love him or hate him) has a fascinating video where he took 2 young liberals to go shooting and then go through the process of purchasing a firearm. And to the chagrin of the one girl, there was a holdup on whether or not she would be allowed a firearm because she takes anxiety medication. And that came up on her background check. I recommend anyone watching it if you've never gone through the process yourself as an adult trying to purchase a firearm. And you too Alex, might make a good reaction video. Edit: It's called "First Time Gun Buyer"
We felons tend to go to private sellers, gun shows and gun kits. Apparently, "shall not be infringed" was lost on these assholes sitting on the supreme court.
Fun fact: Ben and Pierce are very friendly to this day. Pierce as been a guest on Ben Shapiro Sunday Talks show and they both can reminisce and laugh about this first interview. At least publicly they hold no animosity towards each other
I really like the conversations between Jimmy Dore and Tucker Carlson. The examples I've seen have been solid examples of people with strong political opinions being able to talk about issues they may disagree on in a generally polite and meaningful fashion.
Once again, Change My Mind by Steven Crowder is a great jumble of unedited examples of those who do and do not find common ground with Steven in one video.
Any item used to attack another person is now an “assault” weapon. Jason Bourne picked up a pen off the desk and turned it into an assault pen and did the same with a magazine. Granted those were defensive uses so maybe the term is only effective for offensive attacks.
"How dare you accuse me of standing on the graves of the children of Sandy Hook" he said, while quietly signaling to his producers not to bring out the Sandy Hook survivor sitting in the green room.
The thing I love about this channel is I also love linguistic acumen. Watching a debate where someone is able to tie their opponent in knots, keeping them on the defense, is fascinating. This channel seems to focus on that.
Yo, I've been following these "political videos" a lot and I like how you keep it all civil and respectful! I see you mentioning the hate comments a lot, and I hope you don't let that get to you any more than is necessary for a punchy comeback line! Cheers!
Hey Alex, I found your channel through these Ben Shapiro/Jordan Peterson reactions. Now I love watching your videos, thank you so much and please keep making them!
Hilarious enough they are both wrong. None on the weapons used in any of those shootings were assault rifles. By definition an assault rifle is a firearm that can fire multiple times with a single trigger pull. The weapons used were not that. They were semiauto rifles. A firearm that fires once per trigger pull. They just look scary to gun grabbers.
@WhiteTowerGuard I'm pretty sure the term Piers used was "assault weapon" which I agree is the misnomer. However, assault rifles are a particular type of thing. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle I had a marlin .22 semi-auto rifle as a kid. I grew up with guns and am fully aware that 5.56 is just juiced up .22 ammo.
@WhiteTowerGuard I'm also not one of those dummies that thinks the AR in AR15 means assault rifle. And I'm not saying the weapons used in the shootings mentioned here are assault rifles either. They're both wrong about that.
I just joined the Channel a few days ago and I've been catching up. I have been loving your videos this far, and I agree with you about being able to find common ground on both sides Good Work man!
The reason Ben opened with “backs of kids” reference was because somebody on Morgan’s staff told Ben ahead of time Morgan planned on using a victim of a shooting event in a wheelchair to ambush him over his 2nd amendment views. Sort of look this victim in the eye and say it again. Good for Morgan because he was able to pivot to Grifferd and Mark Kelly
I love the days of being able to disagree without being disagreeable! People get so jacked up now days!! It’s awful!! Love watching your videos as always!! Keep on keeping on!! 🤘
I loved your "bad standard" remark. This is what always annoyed me about this interview is here's Shapiro talking about modifying laws objectively and Piers was all just harping on subjective nonsense. If Shapiro had been discussing this with Jordan Peterson, I'll eat my shoes if Jordan wouldn't immediately have asked him something like "well what do you mean by 'good'? What do you mean by 'bad'?" Clarity in speech and word use; without it, you're going to have a hard time communicating for sure.
What people don't know is that there are serial numbers on a lot of guns. And they don't take into the fact that, when the weapon is stolen, the serial numbers can be shaved off. Making it untraceable. So when a person says "another mass shooting just happened" my typical reply is "was the weapon with the serial numbers not in tact?"
It's become such a difficult thing for some folks to understand that disagreeing about a solution does not mean you don't care about the problem. As an eample, just a couple weeks ago I saw a "Tiktok dances you can do to support Ukraine" headline - sorry, I care about helping Ukraine, but I'm doubtful that Tiktok dancing is the solution we've all been waiting for, lol.
I don’t see why you can’t only ban assault rifles, It wouldn’t have a massive impact on number of gun killings but it does significantly reduce the devastation one person can inflict, It’s a start.
Shaprio and Jordan are great. So is Dinesh D'Souza. He's a History Expert. He immigrated to America from India in his teenage years with just a few $. Essentially Obama locked him up for making documentaries about him.
I think you would enjoy Matt Walsh and his dry sarcasm (he's conservative though, I know no Leftists that are actually logical lol). Also Steven Crowder and his "Change my Mind" segments where he sits down with people who disagree with him and they rationalize their opinions!
Yeah, Steven Crowders "Change My Mind" series would be good for Alex to react to! He will get to hear arguments from both sides with no screaming or yelling.
…just realized I wasn’t subscribed to your channel. I’ve watched so many of your videos and the algorithm always recommended you, so much so that I didn’t realize I wasn’t subscribed! I am now 😎
I like how you’re watching this as a third party, and giving an actually VALID response to what they continue to banter over. Both parties were wrong in their own way, and simply threw bullsh*t at the other to try to make them look bad. If they spent more time trying to understand the other persons’ perspective instead of trying to push their own beliefs, this could have been a productive conversation.
The problem with today is people cannot seem to be open to a respectful debate, but instead be stubborn in their opinions and hateful to anyone who disagrees. I respect you for going into each video with an open mind and being brave enough to react to these types of videos. 👏
The bottom line is anyone who wants to do a mass shooting and get their hands on an illegal automatic "assault weapon" WILL and CAN. Making laws to keep them out of the hands of law abiding citizens is insanity.
What I find to be the most ironic thing? Piers Morgan is now a commentator for Fox News, lol. Thing is, in this interview, every mass shooting mentioned used an AR-15. Calling something an "assault weapon" does nothing for the debate, given that the proper distinction to make is between automatic and semi-automatic. An automatic weapon happens when you pull the trigger, and multiple rounds are expelled. A semi-automatic weapon only has 1 round be expelled when the trigger is pulled. The problem is, when definitions aren't defined, the presumption is that every weapon is an automatic, when automatic weapons are very highly regulated, and most weapons sold aren't automatic weapons. The vast, vast, vast majority of weapons sold are semi-automatic weapons. So this whole "assault weapon" tangent really answers no questions, because it is far too easy to move the goalposts, using a vague and ambiguous definition, such that "assault weapon" is. Because any weapon can be used as an assault weapon, just like any other tool, including cars. Policies and laws don't stop evil people from doing evil things. About Sandy Hook: We now know that multiple felonies, including homicide, happened prior to that mass shooting. What we have is a people problem, not a tool problem -- because if guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk, and spoons make people fat.
Sigh everybody keeps calling those guns assault rifles. An assault rifle MUSt have full-auto capability and they are really hard to get and cost a lot of money. What they are talking about are semi-auto rifles. Please never use the media language because they started the misinformation and now everybody is using it.
People don't realize exactly HOW expensive we are talking. Let's say you want an M16. First off it will not be newer than 1986 and will fetch around $25,000 bucks or more. Then there is the form 4 tax stamp stuff that also has to follow . The media makes it seem like we can just walk into a store or gun show and buy one for $50 bucks
@@kryogenik2073 That M16 likely wouldn't even be functional. Missing a few parts. You aren't going to buy one of those and "be legal" if it isn't missing some things. But then..... look at how many free M16's (and worse) ISIS got when Joe Biden pulled us out of Afghanistan with NO plan in place... The Left wants Muslim extremists to have automatic weapons, and they want to punish us just for having a handgun.
This was a FANTASTIC video! You have a great channel with amazing content! I love Shapiro! He is a savage. Would you consider covering/reacting more heated debates, mic drop discussions & the like? Political or not. You definitely have a way of finding really good points on each side and pointing them out. I think it's the kind of content that shows there's not just "one way". In most discussions both sides make valid points. Try doing some Jordan Peterson content where he DESTROYS the people who go up against him!
What liberals term as "assault weapons" has nothing to do with the weapon's capability, it's the visuals. The gun of choice they like to go after the AR-15 is a .223 caliber, a small caliber round . same as any .223 hunting rifle. Both can hold large magazines. They are hung up on AR which they believe stands for assault rifle , which it doesn't for those that don't know it stands for Armalite Rifle the company that makes it. No the are terrified of the "scary " bolt on features and the usual color of black. It is a intimidating looking weapon , but no deadlier than a wood grain hunting rifle the same caliber .
So I never liked Ben in passing but hearing him argue was enlightening, changing his stance and viewpoints accepting when he made a mistake. So many people cant and wont do that. Damn good interview, great reaction, thank you man!
A bat, a car, a wrench, a candlestick, etc. are all considered assault weapons when used to harm others. That argument is weak and stupid. Adding "assault" to the beginning of rifle means bunk. No one who has espoused this argument can ever give a clear definition of what an assault weapon is, specifically an assault rifle, because they know absolutely nothing about guns.
I have always loved Ben , He will allow you to chat and chat and rant on and on showing the crowd who you are and then destroy you with facts. common sense. prefect responses that the majority never thinks of or does think of but wont give any credit to.
The 2nd Amendment....Im a Texas native, born and bred sir. I am 100% for the 2nd Amendment. I am not a "butter" in any capacity...one of those asshats that says "I support the 2nd Amendment but..." as soon as you say "but" everything that came before it means nothing. As a Texan I own more than im willing to admit and I won't list it here. I see it as part of ones natural right to self defense. The 2nd Amendment has fuck all to do with hunting so don't bother coming at me with that idiocy as no where in the 2nd doe sit say shit about hunting. If you wanna come along talking about the whole "well regulated" and "militia" bs look up what those phrases meant when our Constitution was drafted.....here is a hint, it doesn't mean government regulation or rules and the militia does not refer to the National Guard or the like, stop trying to apply modern definitions to non modern writings. Our President talks about you not being able to own a cannon....yes, yes you actually can. And at the time of Constitutions writing....as a civilian you could own a full on frigging war ship with multiple cannons...so just stop. My outlook may not match everyone else's and that is fine, I have no ill will towards anyone who feels otherwise and ill not even attempt to force them to own a firearm. But somehow its WAAYYYY too much to ask that those same people respect my rights and stop trying to curtail them further than they already have been. I am sorry but you arent going to stop crime by targeting the people who aren't committing crimes, start enforcing the over 2200 guns laws we have on the books now, stop trying to create more, start going after criminals and stop screwing with regular law abiding people. Don't like this point of view? Tough....cope with it Also please do not use the term "assault weapon", its a made up term used to evoke a negative connotation regarding firearms in people who know very little about firearms. Now an assault RIFLE is a real thing and by definition is a rifle that is select fire meaning a machine gun that goes full auto or burst mode (simplifying here). Our media, politicians, antigun people, president etc make it seem like we can walk into a gun store or a gun show and just buy one of these things for like $100 bucks and walk out...no...no you can't. Let's say you want an M16, yes its legal, let's say your local Class 3 FFL has one in stock and you want it! First off it will be no newer than 1986 (speaking civilian transferable here not dealer samples etc) so the gunnis nearly 40 years old. Second that gun is not cheap you will be looking at spending around $25,000 on the low end here. Once you can come up with that cash you now gotta submit your tax stamp paperwork to the ATF. So thats finger prints, passport photos a $200 nonrefundable check or money order. Then you must wait 6 months to a year or more while the ATF does their job. Meanwhile you've shelled out a down payment on a house in some areas and you have nothing to show for it. We can also touch on how gun laws actually work, criminals don't buy from gun shows and the gun show loophole is a myth etc etc. But I don't have enough time and possibly space here to do it.
@@effindave6909 it is very true. Something like 98% of all mass shootings happen in a gun free zone. Why are there never mass shootings in gun stores or gun shows? I mean if these things were so dangerous...youd figure that this would be the norm...and its not. Flat out I carry everywhere I go here in Texas, except areas that im prohibited from doing so. Im sorry but I have an allergy to prison and as such will at times willingly disarm myself to prevent me from doing something thatd land me in prison. But criminals already don't care about the law and as such break it without fear.
One of the best arguments we have right now is the war in Ukraine. Government's often left led ones have been trying to get assault weapons into the hands of the citizens to hold of the invasion, and it is a big part of why they are still holding out. This should show people there is value to use assault weapons even to stop equipped armies. If Ukraine wins the armed citizenry will be a big part of why they held out.
@@BROU-bb2uc You are being disingenuous -- the WWII Germans created a rifle called the Sturmgewehr 44 (Assault Rifle 44). It's in the name. Similar automatic rifles have been called Assault Rifles ever since. That's how naming stuff works -- just cry into a kleenex if you don't believe me.....
These are GREAT! Watch the "change my mind" videos I have major depression. I am a responsible gun owner. Mental illness is such a spectrum that EVERYONE can be put on the "do not own" list.
4:56 I like that too. I can understand why someone wouldn't answer directly, because it can give the person you're debating an upper hand in their argument. But the majority of the time, it looks bad to the audience when someone is unwilling to be honest by giving the obvious answer. Show the audience that you're honest, that way they'll be more willing to hear your argument later.
What I hate about thus us how both of them refer to the guns used in those mass shootings as assault rifle. There is no such thing as an assault rifle, there has never been an assault rifle built. It is a term created to make the weapon sound so bad. The AR stands for armalite rifle not assault. You can do just as much damage with a 9mm or 45 calibar hand gun with an extended magazine, andcthe hand gun is easier to conceal and easier to handle.. The 2nd amendment is 2nd for a reason it is the most important rite behind free speech.
You are wrong. The automatic assault rifle is basically traced back to the Stg44 in WW2, and it changed the face of small group battlefield tactics like fire-and-maneuver more than the fixed machine gun did in WW1. It is a class of weapon represented by many weapons today. Notwithstanding the other arguments for/against, you cant ignore its impact on history.
@@marklittrell3202 again it was never refereed to as an Assault rifle, until they deemed it that. Even the term assault rifle in the dictionary is only a few years old. Assault is an action a gun can not perform assault. If you want to refer too a military grade rifle as an assault rifle go with that. But the weapons that have been used in these shootings are not and can not be assault rifles..
@@marklittrell3202 again it was never refereed to as an Assault rifle, until they deemed it that. Even the term assault rifle in the dictionary is only a few years old. Assault is an action a gun can not perform assault. If you want to refer too a military grade rifle as an assault rifle go with that. But the weapons that have been used in these shootings are not and can not be assault rifles..
Ben’s best point was the phrase “responsible people”. I live in the country & wear a pistol loaded with snake shot while working my land to protect myself from attack by animals. When I leave my land I wear the same pistol loaded with hollow points to protect myself from evil doers. Whenever I strap on my firearm I say a prayer. “Lord, please keep me out of any situation where I must draw my firearm to protect myself”. I have no desire to kill an animal I won’t eat nor another human being because of an attack, but I have a greater desire to be neither a victim nor a statistic. I truly believe most folks feel this way.
I'm a conservative, but if you want someone on the left tune in to Sam Harris. watch Sam Harris and the Ben Affleck encounter on Bill Maher.. you'll love it..
One of the biggest problems with the gun debate is the terminology. "Assult weapon" is so broad it's ridiculous. A knife fits that term. The 2nd big problem is how little the ones arguing to get more laws passed on the subject of guns, is how little they actually know about them. I've said this before, but public schools should be mandated to teach weapon safety, accidents are way more common than random mass shootings like they are talking about.
Actually In all of those cases of mass shootings, NONE of those weapons were Assault Rifles. All were Semi Auto Rifles. A Assault Rifle is Select Fire Rifles. Meaning You Can Select between Semi Auto (one round per pull), Burst Fire(# or 4 Rounds pre pull and Full Auto(Non Stop Until letting go of trigger). A Assault Rifle can Only be owned by Government Agencies OR by special License.
Actually, you get three fire modes, not four, two if you ignore "safe". Burst is 3 rounds. The M4 carbine variants used by the US Military are R0920 (M4) safe-semi-burst and R0921 (M4A1) safe-semi-auto. Unless I'm misunderstanding how you are wording it. Granted there very well may be a 4 fire mode, idk. Otherwise correct.
@@rogslayer LOL I just seen what you are talking about, # and 3 same button meant 3 or 4 round burst. Yes most weapons have a 3 round but there are 4 round and My M-16 was Full Auto. Never Fired a M-4 want to but not yet.
Probably because he was 24 years old and that was his first book. This made him famous. He started talking faster after he got use to speaking on camera.
I see the Jordan Peterson shining through you. lol Pointing out the flaw of using an individually quantified notion of "Good and Bad" to merit the all encompassing worth of a person... Perspective matters! It was good to point out that disparity. 👍 Shapiro is smart, but he's a sharpshooter, he made his name being brash and poignant. He could reasonably argue his way around through just about conversation. I wound up following Peterson after discovering Shapiro, because I enjoy how incredibly analytical and sparingly political he was. He could argue his way around BOTH sides of a conversation, even picking apart objectively what he even personally believes! lol The fundamental that matters most is truth, but as we know, each person is also gifted with their own perversion of the definite narrative. Commonly speaking, the more we believe "our truth", the less we tend to test the facts against ourselves.
He was smirking his a. Off … you get to do that when you’re that clever and pretty but also remarkably young to have that much confidence with public speaking.
Morgan was going to bring a child out from Sandy Hook(I think), but before Ben went out to speak of him he found this out, when he confronted Morgan with the sandy hook graves statement, Morgan decided not to bring the child out.
LOL! That's a funny intro, because people on the left don't make arguments, they make accusations! :) They don't want to hear or participate in debates of any kind for the most part, so that's probably why the right side sounds like it's making more waves and generating more hate at the moment, because nobody is standing up and actually countering their points! (Just to be clear, I'm not for either side of the isle, this is just something I've noticed as I've been searching for actual open, honest debates that prove the left's points, and that are not filled with people angrily interrupting each other and dismissing their opponents as morons without making ANY actual points on the topic. :P )
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A little bit of context for you: the reason Ben went in guns blazing (pun intended) is because he found out that backstage there was a survivor of Sandy Hook standing ready to go up there and be used as an emotional argument against Ben's policy on guns. So it was either this, or let Pierce proceed with his gross tactic of literally standing on the graves of the children of Sandy Hook. In the end, Pierce backed off and never executed his plan. So this was a huge win for Ben.
lol context matters and I've seen so many people think Ben, Peterson, Trump or whoever is blatantly wrong or misguided or evil with what they say when they are often completely right but the context is left out either intentionally or just because we simply can't know everything all the time... something the corrupt take advantage of daily.
Ben 8-Mile Eminem'd him. Called out what he was going to do before he did it to take all the wind out of his sails.
@@danholmesfilm My favorite one of that is "There were fine people on both sides-" which is where the media cut it always, but the full sentence is "There were fine people on both sides. And just to be clear, I'm not talking about the KKK or Antifa, those people should be condemned totally." But the media saw that as "Oh my god we can spin this as Trump calling the KKK fine people! And that's what they tried to do, and so many people took it at face value and believed the lie.
Yes! Came here to say this, but glad you beat me to it.
That is context I did not know before. Thank you.
I give these two credit though. Piers appeared on Ben’s show a few years later and they had a respectable conversation about numerous topics. No ill will or anything
Piers was still off IMHO, but was not the ass he was here. He doesn't accept some of the US's ideals and he was wrong statistically in both arguments. It was a better conversation though and since leaving his seat has been more of someone I would talk to than he was then.
@@lespaul36 looks like he's deceptively editing people nowadays...
I'm pretty sure Piers knows the definition, it's not about that, he's not stupid, but he has certain agenda that ignores the customs of an American culture he's not grown up around of.
Great point. Honestly they have polar opposite viewpoints, they both use their own tactics in debates. I'm just happy to see people getting over their differences and being able to have conversations, even if they disagree
@@lespaul36 Pierce Morgan is okay but when he talked about Meghan Markle, I think he was really hurt that she was moving to Britain to Marry the prince & Pierce knew that the wife in the UK was drastically different from the USA and had lunch with her at a restaurant in London. After that she totally snubbed him and for her not to keep in touch was probably because she's always focused on herself..
Fun fact - I've seen some interview or lecture of Ben Shapiro where he talked about this debate and why he accused Piers for standing on the graves of kids. Ben said that when right wingers argue their positions they tend to talk about facts and policies, while the left tend to talk about feelings and morality. The left tend to take the stance of "I have my opinion because i'm a moral person, therefore if you disagree you're not a moral person". As he said in this debate to Piers, they demonize those who disagree with them.
So Ben's strategy in this debate was to instantly sweep Piers off of the morsal pedestal. Attack his own morality to put him on the defensive, before he can attack Ben's morality, and then go "let's move away from talking about who is more moral and actually discuss the issues themselves".
Believe me I have been demonized many times by people on the right so that goes both ways.
@@David-hr8mq Oh, i have no doubt. I was just sharing what i knew about Ben's particular strategy for this debate, and why he chose to open it the way he did.
@@David-hr8mq I think the reference is to people in the public sphere and not necessarily just anyone you’d talk to on FB or Twitter
@@David-hr8mq Yeah, yeah, yeah...both sides do it, both sides are bad....yada yada....moral equivalent...blah blah blah...
@@David-hr8mq Since you want to play the whole I have been demonized by the right game and make it about you, what context did this happen? I can almost guarantee it was something you started and then try playing the victim. However, if you aren't like everyone on your side, I will apologize in advance, but judging from "the left's" history, I doubt it.
Hey Alex, I'm a conservative and love watching videos where people have these discussions: Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, Steven Crowder, Joe Rogan, etc. You're right that it's so rare to find respectful conversations today. If you disagree slightly with someone's views, you're automatically evil and "on the other team." I miss the days when we didn't know what anyone's politics were. As a kid, I had no idea who my parents/teachers/coaches, etc. voted for. Now, it's how we separate people. Kinda sad. I don't know where you stand politically, and that's refreshing. You're obviously entitled to have an opinion, and it seems like you're mostly "common sense." Most of the world is, it's the extremes on both sides that seem to be the loudest, especially online. Keep doing your thing, interesting to watch. Also dig the NF and Tom MacDonald reactions!
Piers Morgan in not in a million years a respectful person, he's the biggest arsehole on the planet.
Solid comment 👌💯
Word
YES to Tom MacDonald and I would add Scooter Jennings.
Tom is the GOAT!
its kind of funny, that Ben and Piers have sat down years later and actually agreed on many topics and seem to like each other.
And Piers joined Fox News. Who would a thought that was possible.
@@EsoxLucius21 yeah after the left cancelled him in Britain for having a opinion they didn't like.
It is because Piers has come under the same gun that he use to support. Peirs Morgan got for lack of a better word "canceled" by the group that he was defending. He was as he said never a lefty but on this issue leaned that way. However, because he does not want all guns banned he did come under fire later. I think he saw what it was like to be attacked by the rabid emotional and logically inept people that are what is labeled the Far Left / SJW. This is why he now appreciates Ben's views more, and Ben for the most part will usually have a good conversation with people that don't come out of the gate swinging at him.
@@mbalrog6 To bad he didnt learn much as he lied about Trump
@@mbalrog6 The left basically told Piers it's an "all or nothing" proposition with them, as they do with their entire platform, there's no compromise, and he decided he couldn't give them that absolution. So it's not politics anymore, it's a ploy to obtain and maintain power...these kind of leftists tried in 1920's Germany and succeeded for about 17 years, then it all imploded and were dealt their end.
I wish Ben would've asked him what an assault rifle or weapon is defined as?
He would nowadays. I think he's more educated on the topic now
The media started calling them assault rifles and now everybody thinks every rifle is an assault rifle.
Yeah, Ben didn't have gun knowledge at this time. It's too bad, because "assault rifle" got over the airwaves w/o being challenged with fact.
None of those shootings used an assault rifle.
It’s only an assault rifle if it’s black and has a murder handle (pistol grip). A Solid wood stock would make the gun a lot safer
@@willie9899 Hmm....sarcasm or stupidity?
Because you can give me an AR-15 with a "murder handle" and a Mini 14 with a strap, and I can fire both equally fast and just as accurately....because they're the same gun. One just has scary looking furniture and the other has a wooden stock, that's the only difference. And fun fact, they aren't assault rifles. They are civilian models of actual assault rifles.
Good job Alex, most reactors don't show the clip beyond the initial "standing on the graves" exchange, I'm glad you did. They did another interview on DW's Sunday special in 2020 I believe that was really good and worth watching.
The not being able to find common found was 100% Peirs fault. Even Ben realizes this when he's talking about more stringent background checks. If you ask me this was just Peirs disagree with everything Ben said solely because he's Ben Shapiro
“You can’t find “common ground” based off a lie.” - Steven Crowder
“I don’t believe in common ground. I believe in right and wrong, no in between. And we should ALL adhere to what is right.” - [Paraphrasing] Steven Crowder
So many people want to be a little too open minded. This is how we end up with 8 million genders
@@oldschoolgamer-w4u read the top comment by darkaquatis.
@@oldschoolgamer-w4u wrong. Piers brought on a kid from sandy hook to do exactly what ben predicted and decided against it because ben called him out.
It was a genius move on Ben's part and taught the audience that emotion isnt how you fix problems.
@@oldschoolgamer-w4u unnecessary, ok, but...
Piers had actually done just that... it was a leftist talking point at the time. and he even had a sandy hook victim ready in the back of the show to talk, Ben had a huge point, a handfull of shootings are caused by using AR's but most of the killing is done with hand guns.... illegally obtained handguns...why choose one over the other, ban ARs even though handguns are the bigger player here? its just a show, demonize a lesser threat = votes
@@oldschoolgamer-w4u BULLSHIT!!!
Ben's greatest skill is being completely rational while driving his opponent to irrational displays.
You forgot to mention that he yammers over the other person . Thats not rational , its rude .
Ben is brutal. He makes good, straight to the point comments. I don't always agree with his view but he is being honest about his beliefs and where he stands on issues. If people could calmly talk about the issues then they might be able to find common ground.
The problem I have with "gun control" is you don't control much, if anything, by doing it. The want to change it is emotional, which yes, it's a justified feeling, but people trying to make policy from an emotional standpoint isn't gonna work well. That's why we're a constitutional republic with democratic elements like the filibuster, and not full on democracy, so the passions of the people don't turn into tyranny of the 51%. A proper red flag law might work but not under our current justice and education system. Ben's idea about mental screening is probably one of the smarter things you can do without having to have a huge spending package ( so they won't do it. Gotta pay off our kids, inlaws and other countries ) Love ya
So true. Democracy is 2 wolves and 1 sheep voting on what's for dinner.
I applaud you for reacting to Ben regardless of the hate comments.
I used to clown on Ben and probably would’ve been one of the keyboard warriors in the comment section lol
But I’ve recently changed my views regarding the left. And main reason I hated Ben was he MADE sense.
Anyway, love these Ben reactions.
Assault weapon is anything you can use as a weapon in an assault. So calling it an assault weapon is an idiotic blanket term. That guy who drove through a parade of people does that mean there are assault cars?
The official definition of an "assault rifle" points to an automatic weapon. Automatic weapons are illegal to buy, and have been for a long while now.
If every letter of the 2nd Amendment were followed, I'd be allowed to have an Abrahams tank, an F22 Raptor, and uzzies for when the gestapo government thinks they are going to come down on me. So obviously the 2nd Amendment isn't being followed by the government.
Yet the Left has a problem with showing an ID to vote.... as if 1 constitutional right deserves to be limited and another 1 doesn't....
Technically, an "assault car" was used in World War II. The British actually used scout cars to assault a front line, in probing attacks.
Not the true and legal definition of an assault rifle. An assault rifle is a rifle that can fire repeatedly with a single pull of a trigger. These were semiautomatic rifles. They can only fire once per trigger pull.
@@oldschoolgamer-w4u Some maybe but these shootings I don't think they were
A little off topic, but if anyone has trouble distinguishing a rifle from a gun, may I recommend Full Metal Jacket. Specifically the boot camp scenes.
One of them is for fun.
LET ME SEE YOUR WAR FACE!!!!!
At 7:11 Pierce brought up Columbine. We had a assault weapon ban at the time, written by Biden. And it didn’t stop it. Evil people will do evil acts. Criminals don’t follow laws.
Ben saying "we can talk about Britain in a minute" was lowkey hard af
What is the ratio between responsible and irresponsible (legal) gun owners, and does that ratio dictate ending a right given to us in the constitution? What about stabbings? Ban knives? Death by obesity? Institute food limits? Take away cars because too many people die in car accidents? When is it right to punish the majority because of the minority?
*Protected by the constitution, not given.
Why not go one further? Peoples mouths get them in tons of trouble. Right? So shall we abolish free speech like so many wish? What about voting? You voted in a way I didn't like and since my party is in power you lose your right to vote because you can't be trusted to not vote against us? Somehow none of this ever applies to any other right but the 2nd. Some scumbag did a bad thing thus ALl gun owners are scumbags who need to lose their rights! As a gun owner its fucking infuriating watching people with zero knowledge about guns regulating them and making laws regarding them.
The constitution does NOT give us these rights!! These rights are inalienable. The constitution protects these inalienable rights from being taken away or stepped on by our government!! Generations now have blindly
"well regulated"
Food and Cars, and to a lesser extent Knives are not considered weapons per se. they are talking about the regulation of an object thats sole use was designed to kill.
Steven Crowder (love him or hate him) has a fascinating video where he took 2 young liberals to go shooting and then go through the process of purchasing a firearm. And to the chagrin of the one girl, there was a holdup on whether or not she would be allowed a firearm because she takes anxiety medication. And that came up on her background check. I recommend anyone watching it if you've never gone through the process yourself as an adult trying to purchase a firearm. And you too Alex, might make a good reaction video.
Edit: It's called "First Time Gun Buyer"
We felons tend to go to private sellers, gun shows and gun kits. Apparently, "shall not be infringed" was lost on these assholes sitting on the supreme court.
I second the motion. It's a good video, and Crowder is another pundit that wads the panties of those seeking to be offended.
Fun fact: Ben and Pierce are very friendly to this day. Pierce as been a guest on Ben Shapiro Sunday Talks show and they both can reminisce and laugh about this first interview. At least publicly they hold no animosity towards each other
Piers was planning to bring out the survivors to confront Ben, but had to change tactics 😅
I really like the conversations between Jimmy Dore and Tucker Carlson. The examples I've seen have been solid examples of people with strong political opinions being able to talk about issues they may disagree on in a generally polite and meaningful fashion.
Once again, Change My Mind by Steven Crowder is a great jumble of unedited examples of those who do and do not find common ground with Steven in one video.
Yes!! I just commented something similar! I love his show and that segment
Bingo well said. I would love to hear an argument from the left, but instead of an argument or discussion. They instead throw a temper tantrum.
@@justinakula2774 I have had genuine conversations with leftist friends of mine, but it’s a rare occurrence for sure.
The problem is that none of these are "assault rifles." It's a loaded term that isn't applicable to the weapons being referenced.
Correct, by name they are Armalite Rifles and not assault rifles as the buffoons in corporate media label them as.
Exactly.
Any item used to attack another person is now an “assault” weapon. Jason Bourne picked up a pen off the desk and turned it into an assault pen and did the same with a magazine. Granted those were defensive uses so maybe the term is only effective for offensive attacks.
who cares what you call it?!? I was issued one on the military, Call it WTF you want, it kills a lot of people quickly!
"Loaded" lol
"How dare you accuse me of standing on the graves of the children of Sandy Hook" he said, while quietly signaling to his producers not to bring out the Sandy Hook survivor sitting in the green room.
The thing I love about this channel is I also love linguistic acumen. Watching a debate where someone is able to tie their opponent in knots, keeping them on the defense, is fascinating. This channel seems to focus on that.
Yo, I've been following these "political videos" a lot and I like how you keep it all civil and respectful! I see you mentioning the hate comments a lot, and I hope you don't let that get to you any more than is necessary for a punchy comeback line! Cheers!
Hey Alex, I found your channel through these Ben Shapiro/Jordan Peterson reactions. Now I love watching your videos, thank you so much and please keep making them!
Welcome to the channel Sophie! Happy to have ya!
Hilarious enough they are both wrong. None on the weapons used in any of those shootings were assault rifles. By definition an assault rifle is a firearm that can fire multiple times with a single trigger pull. The weapons used were not that. They were semiauto rifles. A firearm that fires once per trigger pull. They just look scary to gun grabbers.
@WhiteTowerGuard what about select fire weapons built for and used almost exclusively by soldiers in assaults?
@WhiteTowerGuard Full auto, selector switch, either way they were not that lol
@WhiteTowerGuard I figured. Was tired as hell when I wrote that lol. Had been up for 35 hours lol.
@WhiteTowerGuard I'm pretty sure the term Piers used was "assault weapon" which I agree is the misnomer. However, assault rifles are a particular type of thing.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle
I had a marlin .22 semi-auto rifle as a kid. I grew up with guns and am fully aware that 5.56 is just juiced up .22 ammo.
@WhiteTowerGuard I'm also not one of those dummies that thinks the AR in AR15 means assault rifle. And I'm not saying the weapons used in the shootings mentioned here are assault rifles either. They're both wrong about that.
I just joined the Channel a few days ago and I've been catching up. I have been loving your videos this far, and I agree with you about being able to find common ground on both sides Good Work man!
The reason Ben opened with “backs of kids” reference was because somebody on Morgan’s staff told Ben ahead of time Morgan planned on using a victim of a shooting event in a wheelchair to ambush him over his 2nd amendment views. Sort of look this victim in the eye and say it again. Good for Morgan because he was able to pivot to Grifferd and Mark Kelly
I subbed because of the Shirt. I stayed for the content.
I love the days of being able to disagree without being disagreeable! People get so jacked up now days!! It’s awful!! Love watching your videos as always!! Keep on keeping on!! 🤘
Actually Looks like little Ben got owned here.
Thanks for the good laugh here 🤣🤣
I loved your "bad standard" remark. This is what always annoyed me about this interview is here's Shapiro talking about modifying laws objectively and Piers was all just harping on subjective nonsense. If Shapiro had been discussing this with Jordan Peterson, I'll eat my shoes if Jordan wouldn't immediately have asked him something like "well what do you mean by 'good'? What do you mean by 'bad'?" Clarity in speech and word use; without it, you're going to have a hard time communicating for sure.
What people don't know is that there are serial numbers on a lot of guns. And they don't take into the fact that, when the weapon is stolen, the serial numbers can be shaved off. Making it untraceable. So when a person says "another mass shooting just happened" my typical reply is "was the weapon with the serial numbers not in tact?"
It's become such a difficult thing for some folks to understand that disagreeing about a solution does not mean you don't care about the problem. As an eample, just a couple weeks ago I saw a "Tiktok dances you can do to support Ukraine" headline - sorry, I care about helping Ukraine, but I'm doubtful that Tiktok dancing is the solution we've all been waiting for, lol.
Yyeesssss! Good GOD! YES!
I don’t see why you can’t only ban assault rifles, It wouldn’t have a massive impact on number of gun killings but it does significantly reduce the devastation one person can inflict, It’s a start.
Colion Noir is a Good one to listen to when it comes to guns and 2A
You can have either total freedom or total protection: you can't have both.
So true!
I love JP and Ben. Logically driven guys. You know that saying, " the truth hurts " 😶
Great video as always, but I do have to say that I looooove your shirt! I have one as well. 😎🐶
I love you, Alex. Don't let anybody throw shade at you.
Soooo much shade in these comments already
@@KSGomez88 I'm sure. If into the comments you go, only pain will you find.
@@JKM395 someone actually just suggested Anna Kasparian to watch... I.... I can't
@@KSGomez88 Oh boy. That should be... enlightening. And quite possibly hilarious.
Butt hurt women lefties who cannot accept a different view.
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"..how dare you?" "i mean you can keep saying that, but youve done it repeatedly".. i dont like ben shapiro, but he is good at this stuff
Shaprio and Jordan are great. So is Dinesh D'Souza. He's a History Expert. He immigrated to America from India in his teenage years with just a few $. Essentially Obama locked him up for making documentaries about him.
I think you would enjoy Matt Walsh and his dry sarcasm (he's conservative though, I know no Leftists that are actually logical lol). Also Steven Crowder and his "Change my Mind" segments where he sits down with people who disagree with him and they rationalize their opinions!
Yeah, Steven Crowders "Change My Mind" series would be good for Alex to react to! He will get to hear arguments from both sides with no screaming or yelling.
sweet baby gang for life!
…just realized I wasn’t subscribed to your channel. I’ve watched so many of your videos and the algorithm always recommended you, so much so that I didn’t realize I wasn’t subscribed! I am now 😎
I like how you’re watching this as a third party, and giving an actually VALID response to what they continue to banter over. Both parties were wrong in their own way, and simply threw bullsh*t at the other to try to make them look bad. If they spent more time trying to understand the other persons’ perspective instead of trying to push their own beliefs, this could have been a productive conversation.
The problem with today is people cannot seem to be open to a respectful debate, but instead be stubborn in their opinions and hateful to anyone who disagrees. I respect you for going into each video with an open mind and being brave enough to react to these types of videos. 👏
The best Piers Morgan interview is with Alex Jones. Alex ripped him on that one
I love Alex Jones lol. He's been right on 99% of things.
Don't forget about Uncle Ted Nugent.
@@BROU-bb2uc TED!!!
It's obvious you fools are trumpturds!
The bottom line is anyone who wants to do a mass shooting and get their hands on an illegal automatic "assault weapon" WILL and CAN. Making laws to keep them out of the hands of law abiding citizens is insanity.
I’m not a gun expert but I don’t think AR’s are “assault rifles” so they are both using the wrong terminology or definitions for those types of guns
Yup AR stands for armalite rifle.
@@MarineCARMINE I'm not sure that was in question!
@@WhiteUnicorn82 They don't know what AR means so I told them can you read?
What I find to be the most ironic thing? Piers Morgan is now a commentator for Fox News, lol.
Thing is, in this interview, every mass shooting mentioned used an AR-15. Calling something an "assault weapon" does nothing for the debate, given that the proper distinction to make is between automatic and semi-automatic. An automatic weapon happens when you pull the trigger, and multiple rounds are expelled. A semi-automatic weapon only has 1 round be expelled when the trigger is pulled.
The problem is, when definitions aren't defined, the presumption is that every weapon is an automatic, when automatic weapons are very highly regulated, and most weapons sold aren't automatic weapons. The vast, vast, vast majority of weapons sold are semi-automatic weapons.
So this whole "assault weapon" tangent really answers no questions, because it is far too easy to move the goalposts, using a vague and ambiguous definition, such that "assault weapon" is. Because any weapon can be used as an assault weapon, just like any other tool, including cars. Policies and laws don't stop evil people from doing evil things.
About Sandy Hook: We now know that multiple felonies, including homicide, happened prior to that mass shooting.
What we have is a people problem, not a tool problem -- because if guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk, and spoons make people fat.
Damn, I wish I would have known sooner that all I needed to do to lose weight is get rid of all my silverware! 😂
Sigh everybody keeps calling those guns assault rifles.
An assault rifle MUSt have full-auto capability and they are really hard to get and cost a lot of money.
What they are talking about are semi-auto rifles.
Please never use the media language because they started the misinformation and now everybody is using it.
Straight from ATF.... a Semi-Automatic isn't an "assault rifle".
People don't realize exactly HOW expensive we are talking. Let's say you want an M16. First off it will not be newer than 1986 and will fetch around $25,000 bucks or more. Then there is the form 4 tax stamp stuff that also has to follow . The media makes it seem like we can just walk into a store or gun show and buy one for $50 bucks
@@kryogenik2073 That M16 likely wouldn't even be functional. Missing a few parts. You aren't going to buy one of those and "be legal" if it isn't missing some things.
But then..... look at how many free M16's (and worse) ISIS got when Joe Biden pulled us out of Afghanistan with NO plan in place...
The Left wants Muslim extremists to have automatic weapons, and they want to punish us just for having a handgun.
Alex reminds me of Nat Zang (10K) from Z Nation lol awesome video as always my guy
As a conservative, I'm all for seeing some left wing intellectuals. Let's see em!
LOL, they're aren't too many, are there? They can't seem to follow a line of logic and tend to make emotional arguments.
This was a FANTASTIC video! You have a great channel with amazing content!
I love Shapiro! He is a savage.
Would you consider covering/reacting more heated debates, mic drop discussions & the like?
Political or not. You definitely have a way of finding really good points on each side and pointing them out. I think it's the kind of content that shows there's not just "one way". In most discussions both sides make valid points.
Try doing some Jordan Peterson content where he DESTROYS the people who go up against him!
What liberals term as "assault weapons" has nothing to do with the weapon's capability, it's the visuals. The gun of choice they like to go after the AR-15 is a .223 caliber, a small caliber round . same as any .223 hunting rifle. Both can hold large magazines. They are hung up on AR which they believe stands for assault rifle , which it doesn't for those that don't know it stands for Armalite Rifle the company that makes it. No the are terrified of the "scary " bolt on features and the usual color of black. It is a intimidating looking weapon , but no deadlier than a wood grain hunting rifle the same caliber .
Hey Alex! Love the channel! For some good clips from Progressives I'd recommend the channel Rebel HQ. Rock on man!
So I never liked Ben in passing but hearing him argue was enlightening, changing his stance and viewpoints accepting when he made a mistake. So many people cant and wont do that. Damn good interview, great reaction, thank you man!
I have 3 handguns
2 bought in private sales from my brother in law. With those sales. I had to go do the background check at my local police station.
A bat, a car, a wrench, a candlestick, etc. are all considered assault weapons when used to harm others. That argument is weak and stupid. Adding "assault" to the beginning of rifle means bunk. No one who has espoused this argument can ever give a clear definition of what an assault weapon is, specifically an assault rifle, because they know absolutely nothing about guns.
I have always loved Ben , He will allow you to chat and chat and rant on and on showing the crowd who you are and then destroy you with facts. common sense. prefect responses that the majority never thinks of or does think of but wont give any credit to.
The 2nd Amendment....Im a Texas native, born and bred sir. I am 100% for the 2nd Amendment. I am not a "butter" in any capacity...one of those asshats that says "I support the 2nd Amendment but..." as soon as you say "but" everything that came before it means nothing. As a Texan I own more than im willing to admit and I won't list it here. I see it as part of ones natural right to self defense. The 2nd Amendment has fuck all to do with hunting so don't bother coming at me with that idiocy as no where in the 2nd doe sit say shit about hunting. If you wanna come along talking about the whole "well regulated" and "militia" bs look up what those phrases meant when our Constitution was drafted.....here is a hint, it doesn't mean government regulation or rules and the militia does not refer to the National Guard or the like, stop trying to apply modern definitions to non modern writings. Our President talks about you not being able to own a cannon....yes, yes you actually can. And at the time of Constitutions writing....as a civilian you could own a full on frigging war ship with multiple cannons...so just stop. My outlook may not match everyone else's and that is fine, I have no ill will towards anyone who feels otherwise and ill not even attempt to force them to own a firearm. But somehow its WAAYYYY too much to ask that those same people respect my rights and stop trying to curtail them further than they already have been. I am sorry but you arent going to stop crime by targeting the people who aren't committing crimes, start enforcing the over 2200 guns laws we have on the books now, stop trying to create more, start going after criminals and stop screwing with regular law abiding people. Don't like this point of view? Tough....cope with it
Also please do not use the term "assault weapon", its a made up term used to evoke a negative connotation regarding firearms in people who know very little about firearms. Now an assault RIFLE is a real thing and by definition is a rifle that is select fire meaning a machine gun that goes full auto or burst mode (simplifying here). Our media, politicians, antigun people, president etc make it seem like we can walk into a gun store or a gun show and just buy one of these things for like $100 bucks and walk out...no...no you can't. Let's say you want an M16, yes its legal, let's say your local Class 3 FFL has one in stock and you want it! First off it will be no newer than 1986 (speaking civilian transferable here not dealer samples etc) so the gunnis nearly 40 years old. Second that gun is not cheap you will be looking at spending around $25,000 on the low end here. Once you can come up with that cash you now gotta submit your tax stamp paperwork to the ATF. So thats finger prints, passport photos a $200 nonrefundable check or money order. Then you must wait 6 months to a year or more while the ATF does their job. Meanwhile you've shelled out a down payment on a house in some areas and you have nothing to show for it. We can also touch on how gun laws actually work, criminals don't buy from gun shows and the gun show loophole is a myth etc etc. But I don't have enough time and possibly space here to do it.
Very well said. My sons CCP instructor referred to gun free zones as criminal empowerment zones. I think that pretty much says all you need to say.
@@effindave6909 it is very true. Something like 98% of all mass shootings happen in a gun free zone. Why are there never mass shootings in gun stores or gun shows? I mean if these things were so dangerous...youd figure that this would be the norm...and its not. Flat out I carry everywhere I go here in Texas, except areas that im prohibited from doing so. Im sorry but I have an allergy to prison and as such will at times willingly disarm myself to prevent me from doing something thatd land me in prison. But criminals already don't care about the law and as such break it without fear.
One of the best arguments we have right now is the war in Ukraine. Government's often left led ones have been trying to get assault weapons into the hands of the citizens to hold of the invasion, and it is a big part of why they are still holding out. This should show people there is value to use assault weapons even to stop equipped armies. If Ukraine wins the armed citizenry will be a big part of why they held out.
Definitely watch the follow up that these 2 did. 1 of the most satisfying videos I’ve seen where they talk properly and joke about their past spat.
There is no such thing as a assault weapon.
There are some FULLY automatic carbine rifles that carry the name or designation "Assault Rifle"
@@fewwiggle I could put that on a butter knife.
@@BROU-bb2uc You are being disingenuous -- the WWII Germans created a rifle called the Sturmgewehr 44 (Assault Rifle 44). It's in the name.
Similar automatic rifles have been called Assault Rifles ever since.
That's how naming stuff works -- just cry into a kleenex if you don't believe me.....
@@fewwiggle you just made my point throwing a name on something doesn't make it so.
Larry Elder vs Dave Rubin, an absolute must! Their first interview.
These are GREAT!
Watch the "change my mind" videos
I have major depression. I am a responsible gun owner. Mental illness is such a spectrum that EVERYONE can be put on the "do not own" list.
4:56 I like that too. I can understand why someone wouldn't answer directly, because it can give the person you're debating an upper hand in their argument. But the majority of the time, it looks bad to the audience when someone is unwilling to be honest by giving the obvious answer.
Show the audience that you're honest, that way they'll be more willing to hear your argument later.
What I hate about thus us how both of them refer to the guns used in those mass shootings as assault rifle. There is no such thing as an assault rifle, there has never been an assault rifle built. It is a term created to make the weapon sound so bad. The AR stands for armalite rifle not assault. You can do just as much damage with a 9mm or 45 calibar hand gun with an extended magazine, andcthe hand gun is easier to conceal and easier to handle.. The 2nd amendment is 2nd for a reason it is the most important rite behind free speech.
"well regulated"
You are wrong. The automatic assault rifle is basically traced back to the Stg44 in WW2, and it changed the face of small group battlefield tactics like fire-and-maneuver more than the fixed machine gun did in WW1. It is a class of weapon represented by many weapons today. Notwithstanding the other arguments for/against, you cant ignore its impact on history.
@@marklittrell3202 again it was never refereed to as an Assault rifle, until they deemed it that. Even the term assault rifle in the dictionary is only a few years old. Assault is an action a gun can not perform assault. If you want to refer too a military grade rifle as an assault rifle go with that. But the weapons that have been used in these shootings are not and can not be assault rifles..
@@marklittrell3202 again it was never refereed to as an Assault rifle, until they deemed it that. Even the term assault rifle in the dictionary is only a few years old. Assault is an action a gun can not perform assault. If you want to refer too a military grade rifle as an assault rifle go with that. But the weapons that have been used in these shootings are not and can not be assault rifles..
Ben’s best point was the phrase “responsible people”. I live in the country & wear a pistol loaded with snake shot while working my land to protect myself from attack by animals. When I leave my land I wear the same pistol loaded with hollow points to protect myself from evil doers. Whenever I strap on my firearm I say a prayer. “Lord, please keep me out of any situation where I must draw my firearm to protect myself”. I have no desire to kill an animal I won’t eat nor another human being because of an attack, but I have a greater desire to be neither a victim nor a statistic. I truly believe most folks feel this way.
Leftists and logical arguments ?
Best joke ever
I'm a conservative, but if you want someone on the left tune in to Sam Harris. watch Sam Harris and the Ben Affleck encounter on Bill Maher.. you'll love it..
I come here to get AWAY from the little weasel that is ben
I love this! Please react to Ben's sane, rational and polite debate with Blaire White (a transgender republican)
One of the biggest problems with the gun debate is the terminology. "Assult weapon" is so broad it's ridiculous. A knife fits that term. The 2nd big problem is how little the ones arguing to get more laws passed on the subject of guns, is how little they actually know about them. I've said this before, but public schools should be mandated to teach weapon safety, accidents are way more common than random mass shootings like they are talking about.
cant find the other side with good arguments. unpopular thoughts just yelled loudly trying to seem major
much love brother, love your vids.
Actually In all of those cases of mass shootings, NONE of those weapons were Assault Rifles. All were Semi Auto Rifles. A Assault Rifle is Select Fire Rifles. Meaning You Can Select between Semi Auto (one round per pull), Burst Fire(# or 4 Rounds pre pull and Full Auto(Non Stop Until letting go of trigger).
A Assault Rifle can Only be owned by Government Agencies OR by special License.
Indeed. And as far as I know, no "mass shooting" in the USA has involved an assault rifle.
Actually, you get three fire modes, not four, two if you ignore "safe". Burst is 3 rounds. The M4 carbine variants used by the US Military are R0920 (M4) safe-semi-burst and R0921 (M4A1) safe-semi-auto. Unless I'm misunderstanding how you are wording it. Granted there very well may be a 4 fire mode, idk. Otherwise correct.
@@rogslayer LOL I just seen what you are talking about, # and 3 same button meant 3 or 4 round burst. Yes most weapons have a 3 round but there are 4 round and My M-16 was Full Auto. Never Fired a M-4 want to but not yet.
Alexs shirt on 4/20: Pugs, not drugs!
Alexs eyes on 4/20: YOOOOOOO MAAAAAAAN! SICK SHIRT!
I have never heard Ben shapiro talk so slowly...
Probably because he was 24 years old and that was his first book. This made him famous. He started talking faster after he got use to speaking on camera.
@@007videovixen I thought maybe he discovered those little 5 hour energy shots from the highway truck stops
The two most irritating interview/debate holders debating each other? This is a treat.
I’m not going to watch it. But knowing it happened is a treat.
And the award for most pointless comment goes to...
Immortal Disfigurement - Dragged through the inferno plz ❤
Love both Ben and Piers.
Ben did a video about this recently. Interesting that they buried the hatchet and actually like each other
Hey what's up, love your content, I've been subscribed for a while :D
Ben went after him
Columbine happened six years into the last ban
I like this content NOT because it pisses people off but because it engaged logic into confusion.
Keep it up. Love your take on Shapiro.
Try watching a short from Timcast IRL. Great info and a daily requirement for me.
I see the Jordan Peterson shining through you. lol
Pointing out the flaw of using an individually quantified notion of "Good and Bad" to merit the all encompassing worth of a person...
Perspective matters! It was good to point out that disparity. 👍
Shapiro is smart, but he's a sharpshooter, he made his name being brash and poignant. He could reasonably argue his way around through just about conversation.
I wound up following Peterson after discovering Shapiro, because I enjoy how incredibly analytical and sparingly political he was. He could argue his way around BOTH sides of a conversation, even picking apart objectively what he even personally believes! lol
The fundamental that matters most is truth, but as we know, each person is also gifted with their own perversion of the definite narrative. Commonly speaking, the more we believe "our truth", the less we tend to test the facts against ourselves.
You did good. Better than me. Thank you for showing this though. We all need to see what happens when closed minds enter a conversation.
He was smirking his a. Off … you get to do that when you’re that clever and pretty but also remarkably young to have that much confidence with public speaking.
love those vids !
6:52 DAMN good punches from Ben. I can tell he can hold his own.
Morgan was going to bring a child out from Sandy Hook(I think), but before Ben went out to speak of him he found this out, when he confronted Morgan with the sandy hook graves statement, Morgan decided not to bring the child out.
You should watch Ben's Sunday specials with liberal guests. They are much more cordial and productive. Gives you a good idea of who Ben is.
Dude you gotta check out Shapiro vs. The mathametician from unc it was released about a week ago. It's insane...
LOL! That's a funny intro, because people on the left don't make arguments, they make accusations! :) They don't want to hear or participate in debates of any kind for the most part, so that's probably why the right side sounds like it's making more waves and generating more hate at the moment, because nobody is standing up and actually countering their points!
(Just to be clear, I'm not for either side of the isle, this is just something I've noticed as I've been searching for actual open, honest debates that prove the left's points, and that are not filled with people angrily interrupting each other and dismissing their opponents as morons without making ANY actual points on the topic. :P )
He debated Alex jopnes in same studio, it is a bit more shouting and a bit more fun :)
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