FINAL FANTASY VII REBIRTH - Aerith... Wake Up.

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  • @Silverfish-qv8ig
    @Silverfish-qv8ig 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    Nothing terrifies a Cloti more...

    • @shawnbateman79
      @shawnbateman79  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      They get so triggered, don't they? Especially considering this absolutely is canon. None of this is optional dialogue, this actually happens no matter what. This is a fact of the matter they refused to want to acknowledge.

    • @Silverfish-qv8ig
      @Silverfish-qv8ig 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      @@shawnbateman79 They certainly do! I think 90% of people that say "Aerith must die for the sake of the story" are really just Cloti fans in disguise ;)

    • @pinkymii072
      @pinkymii072 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Dude we aren't scared in the slightest, we just want a polycule

    • @Silverfish-qv8ig
      @Silverfish-qv8ig 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@pinkymii072 Yea, I'd be all over that. Or just a good ol' fashioned throuple.

  • @LordShadrach
    @LordShadrach 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    To see Aerith come back like Gandalf would be awesomeness.

  • @Eiliestl
    @Eiliestl 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    They better bring her back.

    • @shawnbateman79
      @shawnbateman79  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      There's nothing in the next game I would want more than this.

    • @viper-jp1373
      @viper-jp1373 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I want her back more then anything since she is my favourite character but maybe its better if she stays dead since it is a massive part of Clouds journey, maybe it's just me but as much as I want her back, her death is important.

    • @Eiliestl
      @Eiliestl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@viper-jp1373 She was never meant to die. And it isn't needed anymore due to Zack searching for a cure. People have been begging these people to bring her back . Her life is more important than her death .

    • @viper-jp1373
      @viper-jp1373 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Eiliestl Well she was meant to die but also she might live because she was 'saved' when Cloud blocks Sephiroths blade and I am even sure that is the Aerith that fights him with us is from another timeline that was made from what Cloud did, it to me explains why she said "I saw what you did back there, thank you" and Sephiroth saying "I have to admit, I underestimated you" because if Cloud hadn't deflected his blade, Cloud would be fighting that battle alone. So when the timeline come together, it's a question of will Aeriths from that timeline be brought back. Just some theories I guess.

    • @Eiliestl
      @Eiliestl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @viper-jp1373 Yeah ,check your lore. She wasn't meant to die it was adding last minute for saddest. In the OG ending there was an empty spot for her there with the rest of the crew

  • @srdceevropy
    @srdceevropy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    When I first time saw this scene, I was expecting water burial to be next. And when he says "Wake up", I so wished, she would. But when she really did, I was like oh no, Cloud lost his mind.
    Now I just enjoy, how happy she is seeing him.

    • @potatofun3328
      @potatofun3328 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      He's seeing her in a different world, the one he created when he "breached fate," as Sephy said. ❤

    • @srdceevropy
      @srdceevropy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@potatofun3328 I read a theory, that this is when she wakes up in Zack's timeline. It agrees with Marlene prophecy, Cloud woke up first, saved Aerith, now she can wake up too.

    • @Supersonicblue1027
      @Supersonicblue1027 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@srdceevropy I mean it's a cool theory but that isn't how it works. Those bodies in the timeline Zack ended up in were just vessels that Cloud and Aerith could enter through the lifestream. Not to mention the Cloud in the timeline Zack was in wasn't suppose to exist. Zack is suppose to be in the main timeline because his fate was changed during the final battle in Remake which is why the game had him sense Aerith and Cloud and them sensing him. (If you somehow beat the staircase race in Remake, certain things change, and you get an alternate version of the ending where it shows all three of them sensing each other, with Cloud moving his head in the direction slightly while Zack looks confused, and Aerith doesn't stop walking. I have only done this on my first playthrough via an accidental glitch where the adrenalin effect remained active out of battle making Cloud never get tired and thus bypass the trigger that would make him get exhausted and stop running on the stairs leading to alternate lines where he passes Tifa tells her to watch Barret like she told him too. This also makes you skip fighting Hojo's lab monster, in addition to having Barret free Aerith instantly making you fight only one enemy wave as Hojo is unprepared; and makes Aerith playable out of battle in the subsequent chapter instead of Tifa with alternate dialog different from Tifa's dialog. It also switches Aerith and Tifa's pause menu positions.)
      The reason Cloud kept waking up in the alternate world that was created because of Zack picking up the body of the time anomaly Cloud that was with him is because he and Zack are connected. This is shown further in the final boss of the game where they still sense one another despite being separated and fight Sephiroth in sync in two different places.
      It is also implied through several small details that Zack was reality-hopping himself because the game never implies that the Zack, who went to the Shinra building or the one that went to help Biggs are separate versions of Zack, which is further supported by his comment about being unable to help either of them at the church. Basically, it's like the world he was in sits on a boundary between fate and he who was most likely that whisper who gets hurt in Remake before we see Zack is able to alter that world into another one. He couldn't accept being unable to help Cloud or watching Biggs 💀 As a result, he ended up running to church without realizing the world had already changed into another one, and during his self-talk on the stairs, he changed over from one new reality to the reality that Cloud and Aerith had their date in on accident and saw Sephiroth before he attempted to enter the church and tried to stop him.
      What happens here in this cutscene is Cloud changes Aerith's fate when he blocks Sephiroth's sword before the Jenova fight, which was visually shown in several ways. The most obvious one being the green glow that surrounded the 3 of them when he blocked the sword, indicating that a new world was created and Sephiroth's sword lacked the 🩸However, her 💀 was a core piece of fate which caused this new world line to be trapped between existing and not existing. This is why the cutscene kept switching between the original fate and the new one Cloud created, with Cloud being caught between both worlds and having to relive what was originally the worst day of his life while the game switched between both worlds to show us the differences.
      Of course, since only Cloud, Aerith, and Sephiroth were present for the change of fate, only they could see the new world where Cloud saved Aerith; meanwhile, the rest of the team only saw the original series of events. The entire final fight was Cloud, Aerith, Zack, and the gang fighting the original fate of the world (FF7 OG and AC fate) again to make the new reality that Cloud created permanently real. A nice detail to add to this is the version of the church Zack ends up in actually has the broken floorboards from the AC's version of the church before it had the giant hole with water in the middle of it, which insinuates Zack was standing on the last remnant of the original timeline. Meanwhile, Cloud and Aerith fought in-between worlds, and the other stayed stuck in the world where fate can be challenged, with their vision forever clouded by Jenova and fate.
      Then when the fight is over the new reality Cloud made was officially made real so Aerith was sent back to her body in that reality. A reality that only Cloud, Aerith, and those who have seen beyond fate, like Zack, Biggs, and Sephiroth, can see and interact with. The whispers then guided Cloud back into that world in this cutscene to let him awaken her in that body finally separating her from the original reality completely.
      The cutscene that followed this was the one with Cloud's head hurting. Cloud's head hurting is because Cloud in the Aerith is alive reality sat down in the spot he was suppose to and merged both bodies together; hence why he is able to see both worlds at once and has a white materia despite Aerith also having one and like he told Sephiroth in the fight he won't be manipulated anymore because he knows Aerith is alive so there is no more back door for Jenova to get in his mind. They are basically changing the script, so now Cloud is the sane one who knows what is actually happening, while the rest of the team doesn't know anything. (which the way he is acting suggests he remembers everything now but just isn't making a big deal about it, which him being OG Cloud is supported by him seeing whispers in Remake after Aerith touched him in addition to him constantly seeing glimpses of the future in Remake as well. Not to mention his fighting style being more advanced than it should have been.)
      Also with, Zack's final words in the game it suggest that in the next part, Cloud may be world-hopping on his own at certain points and eventually end up in the reality Zack ended up in after the final fight and end up bringing him back to the main reality making him replace Aerith in the party until the true final battle basically making the entire moveset he has in Rebirth just be a demo version of the one he'll have in the next game.
      Oh, a cool detail most people never notice unless they make certain choices in the game is the whisper that opens a portal into The City of the Ancients turns the same color that the feather from the darkside materia are if Cloud is the one using said materia indicating his desperation to save Aerith reached the lifestream and made it response, which might be the devs way of insinuating Cloud will end up using his Sephiroth powers at some point on his own now that he can't be manipulated and this is further supported by the feathers showing up in the Firework Blade team up move if Cloud has it activated before doing the move with Aerith in addition to it making the attack stronger. (This detail has been there since before the game was updated, so it has to be intentional.)

    • @srdceevropy
      @srdceevropy 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Supersonicblue1027 From your comment, it’s clear that you understand FF7 much better than I do. So feel free to teach me-I'd be happy to learn.
      You mentioned getting a different ending scene in the remake? I thought it was pre-rendered. Is your version available somewhere to see?
      It seems like you have some ideas about how the multiverse works. There are several theories about it. One theory suggests that it’s only the consciousness of a character that jumps from one world to another. Other theories argue that these are truly parallel worlds that can merge or split apart. I don’t know of any arguments that definitively refute any of these theories. And it could still turn out that all of it is just a dream, right?
      Yes, it would be wonderful if Aerith could actually be saved.
      I really like your observation that Zack was fighting on the last remnant of the old world after Advent Children. I hadn’t noticed that before, and I’m genuinely glad you pointed it out.
      I also like the theory that Cloud is already in a good place mentally. There are several hints that support this. Cloud is beginning to remember Zack. Then Aerith tells him to focus on his true self. Later, when he holds Aerith in his arms, she says, “It’s okay,” but in Japanese, it’s more like “You’re okay”. Afterward, he says he understands now, and for the rest of the game, he really seems like he knows what’s going on. That would be an interesting and unexpected twist compared to the original.
      But I didn’t quite understand from all this why you think this scene can’t be the fulfillment of Marlene’s prophecy. If Cloud already got better, then he should have arrived in time to save Aerith. And if that’s the case, she could wake up having been saved, right?

  • @wahsaihin
    @wahsaihin 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I think everyone can agree that there are multiple timelines going on in this game. As much has been clear since Remake. It’s less clear how many there are, how many we actually “play” in, and which is which.
    The beginning scene where Tifa is crying is the OG timeline. The scene with all the rainbows where Cloud tells Aerith to wake up, and she does, is this new timeline that culminates the storyline that Rebirth covers.
    Both timelines occur simultaneously, but because the Cloud we know has existed in both timelines, which includes the one where he saves her, he is still able to see/communicate with her (ending cinematic), while the rest of the party can’t, as they haven’t travelled across the timelines like Cloud has.
    The most obvious proof that Cloud has “timeline hopped ” is from an earlier scene (the date where Aerith pushes Cloud into another timeline after she gives him her Materia and Sephiroth walks in, at the Church). Cloud then gives the Aerith in this timeline that materia, and then she attempts to summon Prayer at the temple, as per the OG.
    Any of the cut scenes you see with all the rainbows (there are multiple during the game) is the imagery they use to indicate that an action or event is taking place which diverts from the OG timeline and into this new one, where it can be assumed at this point, is the one where Aerith lives.

    • @pabloruiz5670
      @pabloruiz5670 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I completely agree with your analysis of the scene tbh. Rainbow effects have been used since the ending of part 1 to show fate being defied/new worlds being born. So far they’ve never been utilized to show Cloud’s fragmented mind. Same with the whispers, the whispers have never been just a Cloud hallucination, and we see rainbows AND whispers here. She’s alive but in another world, just like Zack. The reunion of worlds will bring them all together again, whether it’ll be permanent or not, we’ll find out in 3 years.

  • @pabloruiz5670
    @pabloruiz5670 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The more I see this scene the more I realize it’s the same as what they did with Zack in part 1. In Remake you get a scene of Zack surviving his last stand, fate was defied. In part 2 you get this scene of Cloud saving Aerith and her waking up again in the capital, fate was defied. And from part 1 to 2 we found out that Zack was indeed alive just in another world, so part 3 will have the same revelation but with Aerith. Can’t wait to see how they all reunite.

    • @amoghsawant3801
      @amoghsawant3801 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Aerith is connected to cloud time line

  • @davidpaul1733
    @davidpaul1733 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    She didn’t wake up for Zack… she woke up for Cloud : )

    • @srdceevropy
      @srdceevropy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Of course she did wake up mostly for Cloud. But she did wake up for everyone to enjoy.

  • @rcf483
    @rcf483 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    She’s so happy to see him 🥹😭

  • @annabel6038
    @annabel6038 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The music in the second half of this video isn't anywhere in the official soundtrack!! Why? It's so beautiful!

  • @SkulShurtugalTCG
    @SkulShurtugalTCG 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Marlene: "When she wakes up, a scary man is gonna kill her."
    Cloud:

  • @finleymorris04
    @finleymorris04 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    We saved her ❤️
    1:43 that smile.
    1:50 that damn smile.

  • @priscilabee583
    @priscilabee583 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Anybody knows the name of track? i havent been able to find t on any soundtrack here on youtube yet. :(

  • @justineroyebarle1279
    @justineroyebarle1279 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ive never play this game in remake i only play this in ps1 i dont have the money to buy ps4 or ps5.im very happy to the remake.. mesmerizing the old days..im 33 now i finish this when im 13 yrs old..im happy to the remake.

  • @giannisrentis2987
    @giannisrentis2987 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Massive heart attack for clotis right there.😂

  • @lieberte
    @lieberte 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    anyone know BG music that plays here?

    • @annabel6038
      @annabel6038 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's not o the soundtrack as far as I can tell 😢

    • @aeaf123
      @aeaf123 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's a more melancholic riff from the main theme. Altered to fit the mood.

  • @XenonRider7
    @XenonRider7 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I like how it’s only Aerith that Cloud sees. As if no one else really matters but her. His mind really is all messed up 😢

    • @jamesellis33
      @jamesellis33 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      It is another timeline... my god this is not the OG already.. people...

    • @pabloruiz5670
      @pabloruiz5670 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yeah the rainbows are the give away, this is another world for sure. Cloud’s broken mind is NEVER shown with whispers and rainbows, he saved her

  • @oppadasbatatas8129
    @oppadasbatatas8129 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Aerith's death is important, and that's all it is.

  • @dontran391
    @dontran391 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just wishful thinking for cloud. But truth is Roth is really dead… I like how the ff7 creators really put in how PTSD symptoms is for cloud. What you see here are some common symptoms founded in PTSD patients, the “wishful thinking” part to escape the painful reality they are facing

  • @Vipus2501
    @Vipus2501 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    God, this was such a mess of an ending.
    Aerith still dies, but with almost zero emotional impact and time for the player to process.
    All that to create some lame convoluted Schrondinger Aerith discourse.

    • @Sonicfan640
      @Sonicfan640 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      I know, right? If only they were making a sequel that answers unanswered questions and ties up any loose ends. I can't believe they would do this!

    • @Massacretalitor
      @Massacretalitor 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I wholeheartedly disagree. I thought it's going to create a much more interesting breakdown on Cloud when something rings him home that she died and he buried her right then and there in the water, yet he doesn't remember it happening and is in denial about her death, because he's apparently now partially living in a timeline where he supposedly saved her. Or maybe these both realities co-exist now due to Sephiroth merging some of the worlds and splitting them apart again. I thought it was super interesting, and this is the right way to make a sequel, and a partial remake too; it has that familiar feel, yet it's also driving the plot further instead of just retelling the same already fantastic story over again, and it is still keeping us guessing. Although people are clinging way too hard to the expectation of the new trilogy being the same game as in 1997; it's not supposed to be, it's a sequel. And I love it.

    • @SirPhillip23
      @SirPhillip23 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Massacretalitori still dont think its a sequel. Its more than a alternative version. And i hate that

    • @rsoxboy
      @rsoxboy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How can the exact same death for Aerith land with the same emotional impact? Honestly don't mean to sound like a jerk here, but I don't think you understand what you're saying. It seems like you're just upset because what you expected to happen did not actually happen, and you're just using the "zero emotional impact" reason an excuse to complain.
      Seriously give it some thought. How can a predictable event have a significant emotional impact?

    • @SirPhillip23
      @SirPhillip23 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rsoxboy I agree with you in the point that "How can the exact same death for Aerith land with the same emotional impact", BUT, I thing it was terrible made. cloud is crying and them she opens her eyes. They HAD to change the scene. But I disliked the way they did it.