Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth - Emotional Ending Cutscene
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- FF7 Rebirth Ending - Cloud now has the Black Materia and Aerith says goodbye to Cloud.
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I never played the OrigInal Game, let me know how this differs from the original in the comments! Thanks :)
Main difference is obviously, the og players know how it ends
But in universe, it works because Aerith now has Sephiroth's ability to appear to anyone connected to the lifestream, which is how he periodically appears to taunt Cloud throughout Parts 1 and 2
Pretty Much Yoda vs Sidious@@kurzor0007
I’d just play the original man outside of graphics this remake series doesn’t really enhance anything it be better off being an anime tv show rather than a video game
It's practically the same with some enhancements to the story. Only difference is the multiple timelines so far and Zack being shown as alive.
In the original game, Aerith did mentioned that she had dreams of riding in the airship but during that time, Cid had not hijack that airship yet. When Aerith took interest in the airship, Cid was not the owner of that airship yet. There is that scene where Cloud had to sneak around dressing up in Shinra uniform. So while the rest of the party snuck on board with Rufus not noticing anyone acting strange, Aeris did mentioned later on that when she saw the airship, she took interest in it. Too bad Sephiroth killed Aerith before Aerith even had a chance to ride the airship. Compare that to the video you showed, Aerith is just watching her former party member leave instead of taking the ride. I know only Cloud can see Aerith but nobody else can't. Aerith's physical body may of took interest in the airship but it seems kind of different that Aerith's ghost body is not obsessed in riding that airship. In the original game, Aerith dies in Disc 1 and Cloud's party member do not get to ride the airship until Disc 2.
Tifa's sobbing made me start sobbing. Aerith's friendship with her was my favorite part of the game 😭
I wish Aerith could have comforted her somehow. They had a pretty long walk to get from the City Of Ancient to the Tiny Bronco so I am hoping Aerith was giving Cloud a briefing on not letting the cat out of the bag on her being okay, just "displaced" because Aerith doesn't want any more multiverse BS making things more confusing until she can sew up this mess!
I have no doubt Aerith will see Cloud and Tifa and the rest again, living or dead. She can't let Tifa carry that weight forever!
Aww Red(is me) telling her please stop crying Tifa 🥺😭
Exactly you could argue she's more closer to aerith then cloud
This definitely made this feel a million times worse. I was ready for her death personally but I didn’t take into account how much they rest of the party will handle it. Tifa crying just breaks my damn heart I can’t take it.
I agree, the dynamic with the group was much better. :(
In 4 years, it is time to go snowboarding to mourn the loss of our friend.
Haven't played the OG but heard of the Snowboarding mini game. That’s played after Aeirth's death?
@@Topaz-zk4zk yeah u'll go to Icicle Inn to SPOILER:
learn about Aerith's past via her father's recordings and then the snowboarding minigame
@@Topaz-zk4zkYes. The northern crater is a snowy area.
@@Topaz-zk4zkIt's literally one of the first things you do post Aerith's death which is one of the most jarring and hilarious examples of how the OG FF7 is a goofy mess. I love its earnest goofiness.
@@LucasCarter2
And all this while Cloud's still in denial? Wow.
Everyone speaks about Tifa, but Barret was so sincere in this game it hurts
When he yelled “ILL KILL YOU” at Sephiroth, I felt that shit. They did a fantastic job at showing the relationship each party member had with each other this go round.
To me, Aerith and Barrett have the most emotional depth in the entire series. He was my favorite character even back then so guess I'm bias. Even in the OG when I was able to select Barrett getting the date with cloud on the gondola I cried laughing at how he shot the holograms from inside the gondola. MY FAV.
Yea I think Barret is done a lot better in the remake series so far
@@sgc3594I'm glad to find another person who feels the same as me. Barret and Aerith are my two favorite party members and always have been 🤝
@@stephengeist344Aerith went out of her way to save Marlene and it's probably eating Barret up inside that he couldn't protect Aerith after promising Marlene he would help her. Barret feels like he let both down along with Elmyra but he's gonna keep going and pay up by destroying Sephiroth or his life.
For some reason, the image of Aerith being left behind hurt me way more than the original game.
Its jenova not aerith. Everything she says she contradicts what the real aerith was telling cloud in the Forrest and in the goodbye church scene in the other realm. "Jenova will become anyone to fool her pray" was a huge theme this game yet we never see it come to fruition to the main party....except here.
I cried everytime I rewatch this scene
@@Firebird1968damn that great insight actually i forgot about that and it explains why cloud is the only one that sees her
@mohammadalhusaini810 also wanna point out jenova does this exact thing to red xIII in the OG tricking him into giving up the black materia by posing as Tifa. Lifestream aerith is always depicted with a green mist floating around her. You see none of that in the final scene.
Its because thats how death works...it leaves a hollowness in you because the person is now gone..its no coincidence in the OG game after she dies you only get 3 quick glimps of her and thats it.
death takes ppl you love away from you
they tried to have their cake and eat it..shes dead ..but shes still here...its nowhere near as impactful ..as having a character building up a relationship. Building levels limit breaks. And then they're just gone. The finality of death is brutal.
and the players don't really get that in the remake.
cant wait for ff7 rehab
Nomura finally got through rehab and gets off weed
FF7 Restarted
FF7 Recovery
FF7 Reunion
@@luiousy7329I think Nomura said he wants to tie up the trilogy in a way so it stays connected to Advent Children, so he's still definitely smoking something.
FF7 classic fans in 97 : All crying
FF7 Rebirth in 2024 : all crying again
2024: All confused wondering whats going on
@@FreeFlow__ while crying
@@GooseBibleTunesNah, just bewilderment at the dumb changes.
@@malibutaa cry about it dweeb
@@FreeFlow__ Frr, i remember playing FF and now I got back to gaming again and the story or timeline has me confused.
The way youre able to see how Cloud's mental stability just gets worse and worse throughout the ending sequence is omg SO GOOD and heartbreaking, seeing the MC slowly losing his mind while still trying to keep his shit together is so interesting to watch
Yup
That's not it.
Aerith uses the lifestream to project herself in other worlds. It's why remake aerith knew the events of ff7.
Sephiroth learned the same thing in advent children.
During cloud's date dream sequence, sephiroth specifically mentions that aerith has been hiding in a dying world
im not so sure about him hallucinating, he said himself "its just an illusion, its not real" that seems to me as if he knows already.
Damn, I think Square Enix is trying to get Cloud mental breakdown in part 3 on to the level of Fei Fong Wong, cuz this shit is getting more darker and heavy compared to OG!! And this build up is perfect to make his mental breakdown in Part 3 more impactful!! I like the way they're setting us up!!
SquareEnix did an amazing job showing Cloud's broken mental state, huge improvement from the OG. Makes Tifa's role much more important in the third game.
Don't worry cloud i pre order a wheelchair for you.
I want to watch that so bad.😂
That will be in the collectors edition 😂
Why is this comment so funny? 😂
We gonna get him one with a seat warmer, keep him comfy.
Fun fact: Spoilers:
Rufus steals that same wheelchair and uses it in Advent Children
source: I made it up
3:15 is quite interesting. Its almost like the 2 party members who know him best (Tifa and Barret) are reluctant to trust him because of his deteriorating mental state. Tifa doesn't say a single word to Cloud.
Yeah and when he says "I can handle it" well both of them are not having it
Yea that parts really good. Despite having reservations about the timey wimey nonsense they really nailed the characters and their interactions. Cloud is babbling about sky illusions, Barrett knows something is up. Looks to Tifa since she is the one who knows Cloud best, but she is too lost in her grief. Basically tells Cloud in a round about way to get it together. Cloud meanwhile has reverted to his Soldier persona, even the delivery of his lines here is similar to the 1st Mako Reactor assault. He says he can handle it and rather than be reassured Tifa looks some complex blend of, hurt, confused, dissapointed? She just lost Aerith and now Cloud is back to his facade or empty self. I guess if they keep getting the characters right I don't mind if they make the ending some obscure Kojima on 8 marijuanas tier psychobabble
I think at this point they would go without him if they knew where to find Sephiroth, but since Cloud can sense him he is leading the way
I think they did an incredible job of filling in the gaps from the original. They shouldn't trust him, and they should be angry at him for a while, since a lot of his breakdown caused Aeris' death. I think Tifa is going to be really cold to him in part 3 until Mideel when the real Cloud shows up.
he only knows where he is because of his degradation, he doesn’t wanna admit it, but he’s already having the ability to sense and want to follow sephiroth alongside the degraded robed men who were former SOLDIERS.
They did so well with Cloud’s mental state in this game. Even in the end with him talking with everyone you can tell something is off, so can Barret and Tifa. The payoff to his real memories and identity is going to be great
He is so messed up mentally since the beginning of Remake. This ending just makes it 100% clear how messed up he is after Aerith's death and he talking to her ghost or in her different universe version makes it more evident. Tifa and Barrett look shocked like they know he is going to talk to "Aerith" that they can't see and he looks like he is talking to himself. Notice how Tifa doesn't even look at him going in the plane. She probably feels insulted that Cloud keeps talking to himself and "Aerith" (who knows if he is crazy or if he really does see her?) and she would scream at him telling him to stop it.
Madness
In the battle right after everybody but cloud get their limit break full just to show us how broken he is
@@nogoodnameleftor they think hes being oddly callous towards her death and dont understand why he’s acting the way he is. Theres so many ways to interpret this ending its great
@@Zephyr16Cloud is breaking down but the Aerith connection is legitimate, but it does make him look 3 times worse off to everybody in the party. Now that he can see legitimate issues with the reality they are in, but everybody else can't see it, they are losing trust in him by the hour. Playing right into Sephiroths hands.
Ending with the text "No Promises Await At Journey's End" is so powerful. Reminds me of how they ended Cowboy Bebop with the text "You're Gonna Carry That Weight..."
And just as Aerith and Cloud made promises, too. Maaaaan it hits.
What is the last title will be called the reunion?
@@TuanNguyen-we2vi has to do with the relationship between Cloud and Sephiroth
@@TuanNguyen-we2vimay be stupid but I think it will be called “relive” cause you know, remake? rebirth? Gotta be relive next
So that means i can never be reunited with Aerith ever again? 😭😭😭😭
Tifa is super bumming me out😢. So sad how hard she’s taking it. Also, I’m glad she is taking it hard. Her and Aerith were so close💔
Taking it hard
Yeah her and Aerith were best friends in this version of the game. Hell I'd go so far to say that Aerith might have been Tifa's first/only female friend. Edit: Since Jessie seems to be older then Tifa, and more of a mentor/colleague.
it’s even sadder when red felt her presence🙁
Why is she so sad
well aeerith actually died. sheis present as a spirit@@callumpayling8852
Cloud tripping off materia beans seeing things. His consciousness tethered to his parallel selves in other timelines.
Aerith Spirit is Real. Lol she was Talking To herself after they Left
Aerith is real here. Nanaki reacts to her touch as his species is very attuned to the lifestream and that’s where Aerith’s spirit is.
For some as of yet unclear reason only Cloud can see her clearly, probably for the same reason only he can see the rift in the sky
She’s talking to him from the lifestream much like she does in advent children. The tear in the sky confirms that which is also the same tear you see in the OG when Cloud and Tifa are in the lifestream in Mideel.
Probably because he was the only one who walked into the stream when team avalanche was holding the rift open @@nunorodrigues320
She's in the lifestream. Of course she's real. Nanaki can sense the planet almost as well as her. You guys and your timelines. This is a story about life and death and coping with it. Accept it.
Confusing or not that "Goodbye" really fuckin hits...
We have enough fake hints
@@grandholy2k6 ?
Aerith says in the sleeping forest that she'll handle Sephiroth, and Cloud should worry about herself. But here she says "You promise?" Basically going against what she said in the forest when Cloud says he'll defeat Sephiroth. I think it's just Jenova or the black materia fucking with Cloud.
This scene makes me feel uneasy rather than comfortable
@@nintendowolfmade me feel uneasy too and when she's talking about praying and turns around, for a brief second her eyes are red.
@@Rezo2486 The whole game Sephiroth says that Jenova takes the forms of those you hate, those you love.
I think it's all the trick to bring the black materia to Sephiroth
The one thing between both the original and the Rebirth version of the scene that hurt the most to watch was how much it devastated Tifa. :(
Damn that's good CGI, the scene is absolutely gorgeous.
Great cinematography and scene compositional work too!
Thats because its a Pre-rendered cutscene whereas an in-game cutscene is when its not pre-rendered and CGI
Man the shot of the plane flying into the distance while Aerith remains alone in the grasslands, watching the party move forward without her, is one of the most heart wrenching scenes ever😓
Cloud crazy arc is next just gotta wait 4 years❤ damn!
I think the developers said It won't take 4 years I could be wrong.
@@Rydiculous they said around 2028 what I saw on their website
Cloud insanity arc let's go!
2030 on PS6
@@fdkspx_ganteng late 2027 for trailer and maybe early 2028 for release on ps6 that how it was for part one and two
I fucking loved Cid humming the FF Main Theme in this scene, if they actually play the real thing somewhere in the third game I might lose it
16 nailed it every time, I'd love them to do it here.
I was honestly expecting them to save it for the credits of the third game, so hearing Cid hum it was a nice surprise
Nanaki responding to Aerith's touch proves Cloud isn't "just seeing things", btw.
I can’t believe that’s how people reduce things. Cloud’s grief is so palpable. I know it hits full force in advent children, but his best friend is gone.😢
Tifa is still alive wdym 🤔
@@mrtouchmybeard are you responding to bryce or me? cos I said Aerith
Well the interesting thing is... Cloud's version of Aerith is her being vocal. But the real her (I wanna assume the lifestream version of her) is actually silent. That's the version that Red saw
I think Clouds Aerith is actually Jenova
The way Tifa crying touch me so bad...
Barrett VA is the goat
Id say Red's since the dude was switching from angst teenage to wise old man every recording :D
Hard agree. Give Barrets VA an award.
Aerith seeing them fly away is very similar to a picture from the OG that was supposed to be from cut content. It makes me wonder if they are reusing ideas that didn't make it into the OG, so maybe they had it all planned out 30 years ago. o_O
Duuuuude, yes! The insert from the original game case. She's watching the highwind, but in the series of actual events, she was never near it.
I'm glad this game focus more on Aerith and Tifa's friendship. Because some people always think both have animosity to each other cause of love triangle thingy. so I'm glad that they've shown that Aerith's death impacted Tifa as well
Yes, don't forget during their journey they became bestfriends.
When cid said “no heavy loads, we’re close to capacity” he really was speaking for clouds mental health
I'm sure we can all agree that Cloud's behaviour isn't normal. How he's unaffected while the rest, especially Tifa and Nanaki, are clearly upset, it's unsettling. Aerith herself seems to be aware, she says goodbye as the rest of the party flies off, because they are going on living and she isn't. She's most likely one with the lifestream and will "exist" in the same way she does in AC, probably lied to Cloud in the same way her and Tifa have been hiding the truth the rest of the game, to delay his inevitable existential crisis.
I think he talking to himself at the end (well, he thinks he's talking to Aerith...or maybe he really is?) makes it apparent that he has been crazy ever since the beginning of Remake. We just have to observe carefully and see that he hasn't been sane at all this whole time. Remember how he sees Sephiroth and everybody else can't.
@@nogoodnameleftAdvent Children all over again. She’s the invisible voice that will be with him in the third installment.
This is not Aerith in this cutscene. I think it's Jenova.
earlier, Aerith says "I can take care of Sephiroth, leave him to me". Aerith does NOT WANT Cloud fighting Sephiroth. She wants to keep everyone safe and that means taking on Sephiroth on her own.
in this cutscene, Cloud promises to stop Sephiroth and "Aerith" says... "You promise?"
this "Aerith" that Cloud is seeing WANTS Cloud to come to the Northern Crater WITH the Black Materia WHERE Sephiroth is waiting. this entire cutscene is so so so much scarier once you connect those dots.
@@HS-mn6jc make the video slower, look at her face expression after she turns away from cloud, she is like VERY sad here, seems like she makes an effort holding back the tears and makes herself to ask for the promise cause she can't do anything with Seph at this point so she has to rely on Cloud and the team no matter what...body language is telling here, very sad scene :"( also no point to show how she walks around the party with sad face if it was jenova
@@HS-mn6jcThe Aerith that said that was alive and this one isn’t so she can’t handle Sephiroth by herself now she needs Cloud and the rest she most likely even knows how things will play out so she shouldn’t worry.
Also the promised part is only in English as in Japanese they don’t promise anything or even hint at it.
She is not Jenova at all or even Clouds imagination as she stays when they all leave, she is either dead (Lifestream manifestation) or is trapped in some sort of limbo/weird dimension.
Them juxtaposing Cloud being the only one to see Aerith, and Cloud being the only one to see the tear in reality from Zack's world is to show that Aerith is real. She is just in her own world. Cloud unknowingly has the ability to see things from other worlds, but due to having a destroyed mental state thinks they aren't real.
Forgot that Crisis Core remake was called "Reunion". Didn't play that one yet.
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We can only wait and see.
Crisis core was reunion though… I doubt it
That's what I think. I don't buy that Aerith is dead. He saved her, then it switched to another world where he didn't and from then on everything got murky as far as which world is which.
@@jakedematteo2172 Idk think about that scene. He stopped Sephiroth from stabbing her, then it switched and did that fuzzy thing and I think it changed to another world where Sephiroth did kill Aerith. When the rest of the party came to and saw Aerith dead, it was still doing that glitchy other world thing. I think Aerith is still alive just somewhere else.
So that's how Materia is implemented in weapons. I thought you embed the sphere in one of the holes, but what it does is that the Materia sphere merges with the weapon itself. Cool
I recall the characters in Advent Children did something similar too. Can't quite remember who exactly.
@@theyouth2000 i saw one of these three do it Kadaj, Loz, and Yazoo
@@shiro7209 Oh yeah. Now I recall, when the 2 other clones (Loz & Yazoo) tried to engage Cloud after Sephiroth battle, their arms were glowing with materia. Practically turned themselves into living nukes.
Actually... what you thought is correct too. Coz you can see cloud's buster sword 's holes are equipped with Materia. Maybe he wants to hide the black materia from the rest, so he sort of make it blends it to his sword.
@@theyouth2000so that could applied to human, or only sephiroth and his clones?
As soon as Aerith said "You can't fall in love with me" in Remake, I knew how everything was going to play out in Rebirth, and I knew how much it was going to hurt. Square really knows how to twist the knife.
its funny cause she fell in love with him in rebirth
@@arceptorI still think she was just flat out confused by her emotions.
@@JustKelso1993In remake she already knew her fate. She knew how much losing one you love hurts with Zack, and didn't want to do that to Cloud.
@@fightinjack which is funny coz, she tells him not to fall for her but she keeps pursuing him with 'dates' and a confession in dreams/different worlds. 🫨😵💫
@@peppergirlrocks Cloud was once implanted with Sephiroth's cells, and Sephiroth was once implanted with Jenova's cells. Jenova once infected the Cetra people and gained the ability to see and communicate with the souls of the dead, so Cloud and Sephiroth gained many of Jenova's abilities as a result.
I love the fact that Red is there trying to comfort Tifa. I didnt cry until i saw how hard tifa took aeriths passing. God i cant wait for the next game. Bravo SquareEnix 👏
I started crying when the camera panned to Tifa. Now that is LOSS. I get what Rebirth was trying to do to make things interesting with the timelines and whatever but nothing says “FF7” like grief and loss, which is something I think was lacking in this ending. Except for Tifa. Tifa and Aerith were so close in this game and you really feel that sorrow from her…it just breaks my heart- she’s the only one truly grieving.
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They were so close that I was thinking that they were going to make it be a very crazy love triangle like they all loving each other...that was how good Tifa and Aerith's chemistry was. Shame you can't switch between Cloud and Aerith and experience side quests and stuff like Costa del Sol from Aerith's POV.
I think what truly hurts her the most is, Aerith was the stability for Tifa when things got tough with Cloud. She leaned on Aerith in getting through the difficulties that her and Cloud have been through.
With Jenova slowly taking over Cloud’s mind and creating a huge hindrance in their relationship, what gave Tifa solace was Aerith’s presence.
Barrett, Red and Yuffie are good friends, but when it comes down to it, Tifa genuinely did rely on Aerith when things got tough with Cloud. Aerith is irreplaceable.
Now, she has to deal with Cloud and his weird behaviors on top of trying to move past Aerith’s death. Tifa, imo is the one most affected by Aerith dying.
This whole ending hits hard, and then that "Goodbye" from Aerith is just depressing...that said, Aerith or a form of her will probably be in the next game.
I hope so, Aerith is definitely my favorite character so I'd be extremely sad if this was her "last" game, I want to see more of her, I want her to come back and be happy with the people she loves 😢
If there's no Aerith in the next game I ain't playing
Wouldn't surprise me, I mean, there's still the Aerith in Zacks timeline, right? Or the other one that gave him the white materia.
I think this aerith was saying goodbye, but I'm sure there will be some form of Aerith in the next game
That ending really is depressing once you think about what the game builds upon with Aerith and her past. She’s all alone at the end. She has no friends and is in the lifestream. It’s essentially a prison of loneliness for her until she decides to fully integrate into the lifestream and remove her individuality. A really nice tough is the yellow flowers in the final shot. Say what you will about the ending logically, it being confusing, however it really hits you in the gut emotionally.
@@VeSpEr7iNe
If she comes back what is the point of her death?
As much as I love her this would negate her death and make it pointless. I mean she's still on screen as much as before even after her death so we don't really feel its effect.
The shot of the bronco flying away with the music made me tear up
They really blew my expectations out of the water
It was so sad to see this, first time flying away and she's not on board but watching them take off... It hurts. Also I feel for Tifa, it's hard not to cry whenever I see her or Yuffie crying, Yuffie lost people, Tifa keeps losing her friends. I feel bad for Tifa, she really got depressed by all of this :(
Tifa was so heartbroken that she can't even look at Cloud. I wonder if they all think Cloud has gone insane because he keeps talking to himself but he says he can talk to Aerith and that is why Tifa can't look at him when going into the plane.
She's pretty much the planet itself, she is everywhere now.
They really did an amazing job at showing how close Aerith and Tifa became. No jealousy or competition.
After hearing Maximillian's impression of the ending, it continues to give me more and more shivers because of how dark this ending is
Off topic I always forget canonically cloud only ever uses the Buster Sword.
Canoically he replaces it for the fusion blade
This ending made me cry like a baby. Mourning people also means that we need to put the past behing you as you go forward. Which is so well illustrated here when this whole bunch of friends leave Aerith behind. Damn, this hurt so bad.
Cloud: “You gonna be okay getting back?”
Aerith: “And if I said I wasn’t?”
Love that callback to the first game. Their chemistry is amazing.
in fact every line she said during that conversation, is something she said before either in remake or rebirth...
its almost like she isnt real: P
@@user-or4ct5ow6b Red feels her presence when she touches him, so I think she is there. And what does she say besides what I said that’s repeated? Because I’m sure it’s all new.
@@whitewolf7454 No, everything she says has already been said by her before either earlier in the game, or in remake.
She first said "it feels like a second home". this was said in remake about her home in hojos lab. Its the exact same line.
Her line about "then Ill light up smoke" was said earlier during the part where we met Vincent.
Go check out her lines. they r all old lines.
As for nanaki, nanaki could have sensed her. But the confusing part was, he never turned around to meet her. Thats a fact.
Also, another argument which deals massive blow to "multiverse/ timeline" theory is the fact that nobody can see her other than cloud. So even if multiverse is actually real, what is the point in all of this when nobody can see you. You might as well be a ghost at that point. Its same as being dead.
So the theory here is: there is no multiverse. She really died. Cloud is coping hard, hallucinating, he is schizophrenic and making stuff up as he goes along. But she is real in the lifestream, she is waiting for him in the "promised land" just like in Advent Children. All that is real.
@@user-or4ct5ow6b I think she only mentioned it in the Ch14 resolution scene, and in that she said “it’s like going back to my childhood home” in regards to Hojo’s lab. While in Rebirth says second home about the Forgotten City.
She says “maybe we’ll need smoke” just before going to Nibelheim, while here says, “then I’ll send up smoke.” Not sure if there’s another part you mean?
Why would he, he just felt her presence. it’s not like he could see her or smell her.
Probably because of Aerith’s meddling with the alternative selves, and because he’s travelled between the worlds and saw the scars in the sky, which has left him with the ability to “see” more. When Sephiroth is giving his speech before the fight, talking about the multiverse etc, he says “but you’ll never see the truth with such clouded eyes.”
So what, the Zack sections are one big hallucination by his dead self? How did Aerith get a restored white materia if not from her other self? What about Tifa, who was seeing time distortions with Aerith having and not having any blood on or around her?
@@user-or4ct5ow6bthe mental gymnastic is exhausting with this one lol
That final line 'No Promises Await at Journeys End' is a line from LOVELESS...
they really been playing more and more with loveless, huh. next thing we know, genesis is back in part 3 or something haha
I would love to have seen something of angeal and genesis in this game to include crisis core more in the story of ff7 since zack also has more included
@turquoisemaple
I actually hoping to see Genesis in Rebirth, ESPECIALLY we literally watch the party play cast in Loveless stage play 😂
@@PlaystationGamerZX genesis coming back just to criticize everyone's performance hahah
Tifa is super out of it here. She's taking it really hard. Reminds me of earlier in the game when she thought cloud was going to die and she said.
"Please, not him too."
And now she lost aerith after they got so close over this game.
Hopefully cloud sacrifices himself & Zack takes over.
@@LARK-ht7kdHow in the world would that make things better?
@@LARK-ht7kd hopefully that will never happen
@@LARK-ht7kd 😆
At least Cloud can see and talk to her 😢
assuming its not Jenova.
Its Jenova
To jenova
@@rhaspados666 mógłbyś mi powiedzieć na jakiej zasadzie to Jenova , zakończenie tej gry namieszało mi w głowie...myślałem że to po prostu Aerith w Livestreamie którą widzi tylko Cloud przez mutację Mako.
@@funkyboy1190Jenova is the alien that the Cetras defeated millennia ago. Years later, Shinra found his body, and Hojo began using his cells for experiments, with the intention of cloning his DNA, and creating superhuman hybrids. Cloud, Sephiroth, Zack and the Hooded Men all have Jenova cells in their body, which is capable of manifesting itself through these cells, causing Cloud's hallucinations.
The scene's got a wide, open space without a single tree, making it feel really empty. It's a quiet, nice day that's a lot slower than the rest of the game, especially compared to the last big fight. It's a huge change of pace. You can see the clear sky and the sun, showing you're done (for the time being) with the battles. The characters are just there, doing some small task, waiting around. It's a big switch from the intense action before, making you feel kind of sad and empty.
that moment with Tifa just destroyed me...
it hurts so bad
Cloud's mental break in the Northern Crater is going to be so good. The final act of this game shows just how unstable he is, he's basically one step away from being a black robe mumbling incoherently about the Reunion.
And technically we’re seeing flashes forward to where Cloud DOES become one of the robes. The Northern Crater is going to be a trip and a half.
They did a good job having cloud tweaking. It’s works too cause now you can’t really tell when cloud is tweaking out or if he’s actually seeing something real. Barret still keeps believing in him even though he clearly sees this man slowly losing his mind. I’d like to also say Barrerts bleeding heart was killing me. The voice actor did a good job that and you can tell the developers really wanted To better portray Tifa and Aerith’s friendship.
The Aerith Ghost Cloud sees is real even if he is mentally unstable from losing her. While Aerith 1 did died, her spirit lives on and can still interact with the living in some way or form at least in the ending. Aerith 1 having her white ghost minions with her during the final battle shows this. But the biggest solid confirmation is Red X feeling Aerith RIGHT AS SHE TOUCHES HIM. This alone should 100% confirm Aerith 1 's ghost is real. The second biggest confirmation is even when everyone flew off in the plane. It shows the ghost of Aerith 1's perspective and even have her say goodbye perhaps meaning this will be the last time she interacts with them for awhile or she's done with the living for the time being 👍.
Anyone who thought Cloud is just hallucinating Aerith hasn't been paying attention and hasn't seen Advent Children.
@@kingorigin4805He's clearly hallucinating in the sense that he doesn't understand that she's truly dead though. His mind is completely scrambled.
@@LucasCarter2yeah, I feel Cloud hasn't really processed the fact that Aerith is dead and being able to see her and talk to her is definitely contributing to this confusion of his... I do hope that, somehow, we can bring Aerith back in the next game :(
I'll bet they reference the original oversight by having her say her "I don't like it here" line that the original devs accidentally left in the game.
@@kingorigin4805 it doesnt matter. Shes still dead.
For anyone that is talking about her eyes being red at a couple spots, I believe it's the bronco. Right around 5:15 if you pause and look, the red in her eyes aren't in the same location. Each eye shows a small displacement to the left. And the broncos back is on her right eye from her perspective. From ours it would be her left. This means it should shift to her right.
To add, around 4:56, you can see the red move from the top of her eyes and she moves her head.
I know there's talks about that's not how CGI works, I don't know enough about that, I don't think it's her being Jenova though.
When Cloud was holding the black materia the red shift went on the inside of his pupil. I believe because this is the dead Aerith, she now has her memories back and if Cloud can beat him, they could be "reunited". This may be why she's acting a little off and is no longer telling us to worry about ourselves. Something changed and now we have a chance again.
I think she will come back via another timeline from one of the dying worlds. I'm pretty sure she's still sleeping in one, Marlene even mentions that if she wakes up, the bad man will kill her.
I also think that "reunion" or "reunited" might be the next name. Both would fit if Aerith does come back, but also works for other characters. My 2 cents. Might not be worth anything. Just had to see an up close of the red eyes for myself, but don't see anything strange about them.
I would like to also add something else I noticed. When the plane back fires, Aerith's dress doesn't move. Cait's cape does. But when the plane starts a little later, her dress and hair are all moving. Could be nothing though. Could also be 2 Aerith's.
The quality of this ending all rests on part 3 of this trilogy.
Nomura is not known for sticking landings.
I highly doubt part 3 will be any less convoluted .
Pretty much but I don't see this story sticking it's landing, it's way too convoluted. I'm over multiverse crap and just hope the game plays great.
@@bauer0788he isn't writing it it's nojima who wrote the origional
Just finished this yesterday. It's been a wild and emotional journey. Looking forward to the next and final installment. And I was 12 years old when the original FFVII came in 1997. Best RPG ever👍👍
Don't know if it was said before but fun fact that scene of Aerith looking up at the Highwind taking off was the inlay of the PS1 jewel CD case.. it just hit me.
I caught that immediately and it shook me to the core
It is. I was like, that's supposed to be the highwind lol
That CGI cutscene is really High end Movie Quality . A FF series whit that Animation would be awesome
the CGI looked this good since 15. It really hasn't even improved in 9 years. But it looks good so i'm not complaining.
FF15 Kingsglaive isn't great but it has beautiful animation like this
Problem I think would be budget and animation quality. As much as I'd like more of something I love, sometimes you gotta accept when a good story has to keep short.
Why is no one talking about Cid humming the Final Fantasy national anthem.
Thank you!!!!!
That was my first clue that there is something wrong. That theme is a victory motif in Final Fantasy. Why is he humming that while everyone is looking at him like he’s acting improperly given what they all have experienced. This scene is so off, and I think this is setup for further unreliable narrator moments with Cloud and his eventual realization of the truth.
@@DerMelodist That theme usually plays to indicate the beginning of a journey as it did in FFIV.
@DerMelodist if you've played the older games (ps1) they play it at the end usually. The most memorable ones for me are ff9 and ff15. When I heard Cids humming, I knew this was the end scene.
@@distantmind8465 they played it at the end of XIV but don’t remember IX. Definitely played it at the beginning of IV when Cecil and Kain set out.
@@DerMelodist a victory motif? Its the main theme of the series and it is played mostly at the begining. The song itself has 2 official names, "Final Fantasy" and "Opening Theme".
Do you all think the red dots in Aerith's eyes at 5:15 are just the Tiny Bronco reflecting in her eyes (to me, seems too small to be the huge Bronco, there'd be more red and the few frames just before this don't have the red at all) or is it indicative that Aerith is Jenova in this ending? Cloud has red dots in his eyes around 1:58 when he's looking at the Black Materia.
No dude, it's definitely Jenova or seph doing something.
I must be colour blind or something I don't see any red dots it is pretty much green. people are looking way to into it.
@@ShockCometComments there are red dots
I think people are missing a big detail, if Cloud is "seeing things". When Aerith touches Red 13, Red does respond and said "Aerith...?" in a tone of confusion more than anything. What I think happened is Aerith's soul is part of the Holy Materia since its blank, the white versions of the Whispers were around both Cloud and Aerith before she disappeared completing her canon event. Cloud may still go and do some things to give the black materia to Sephiroth, but I think it's going to be done a lot differently than before
Because she has not yet returned to the lifestream; she still has a purpose of stopping the meteor. Cloud has Jenova cells, so he can see Aeriths soul and the rift above the sky.
@@npquanh30402 That's a pretty good theory
I'm sure glad we made this remake series more complex than it needs to be.
They definitely conveyed this information very well enough anyone can follow it.
@@npquanh30402 I hope Aerith can be "loaned" back to the team by the lifestream/alternate universe for part 3 with the understanding that she departs forever at the end (and that way the creators' guarantee that Aerith's death is permanent by the end of part 3 is still happening and there is no happy "Aerith is alive in the end" ending but bittersweet). Would be really cool way to let her fight again and become a major part of the story as a playable character but it still making sure she actually dies at the end. That way Aerith can become a part of the story and part of Cloud's party's life for all 3 parts unlike the OG where Aerith dies in the middle of the game.
It’s feels like there’s 2 different realities where Aerith doesn’t die in one and only Sephiroth can travel between the worlds. Because cloud is Sephiroth, he glitches seeing her
Great upload Dan....❤
When they show the frame with the Masamune embedded in the floor, you can see the classic "distortions" he experiences when he distorts reality, such as when Zack is mentioned, and you hear the famous three notes of the intro, the same ones you hear when a tear escapes in the Remake. In the third part of the game, they could show the same scene with Sephiroth actually pulling the bloodied sword from Aerith's body. In fact, upon closer observation, there are two angles and two different floors. One is just in Cloud's head where he deflected the attack, and another with the sword impaled THROUGH Aerith's body and blood starting to flow. Sephiroth smiles, pulls out the sword (from the body), and we see the classic scene of Aerith falling as the music starts. Even when the rest of the team approaches, you see the classic disturbances with a bloody scene and a clean one (in Cloud's head). Although it's intentionally done to confuse and mislead, we simply see what actually happened and what Cloud sees from the moment his psyche begins to deny Aerith's death, including her telling him "it's all right" and him laying her on her back. After defeating the boss, we see Tifa and the others looking at the deceased body lying on its side, while when Cloud approaches, he only sees her lying on her back, even opening her eyes and responding to him, obviously only in his head. I mean, even him rejecting Sephiroth's sword is all a product of his imagination. In the end, this guy literally saw Zack die before his eyes and removed it all from his memory. Obviously, what really happened, including him laying Aerith's body in the lake, will be revealed in the last part when Cloud, fallen into the lifestream, regains control of his memories and himself 😢
Man, Tifa is going through it.
She’s lost both of her homes (Nibelheim and 7th Heaven), her father and best friend were both murdered by a crazed psychopath with a god complex, and the man she loves is rapidly losing his mind right in front of her, and she can do nothing about it.
If anybody needs a hug right now, it’s her.
The image at 5:32 really got me. I remember my old copy of the original FF7 having a rendered image of Aerith looking at the airship and being sad as a kid because she never got to ride it. Her arm even moves to the same position as the render. This was a really lovely subtle reference to us old players :')
Aerith did remember seeing the airship at Junon in the original FF7. Then eventually, Aerith did state that it was her dream to ride that airship. Too bad Cid Highwind did not own that airship called Highwind at the time Aerith was alive. We can all remember it like this. Aerith died in Disc 1. Then in Disc 2, Cid finally gets to be the owner of the airship. Aerith had been wanting to ride on that airship so if only Sephiroth did not kill Aerith, Cid would of fulfilled Aerith's dreams.
I have watched this cutscene an unhealthy amount of times
Awesome Video 👏👍
I finished this last night. Broke my heart even though i know what’s gonna happen to aerith.
Aerith only appears when Cloud looks at the party and disappears when he looks away at Holy and the Black Materia. Interesting she disappears around the time he discovers the Black Materia but appears again when it’s fused to the sword. Remember what Sephiroth says, Jenova can become anyone. Those we hate, those we love, etc. Also before this scene he had been Glenn in front of Rufus. I think it’s on purpose that we don’t see Cloud being Aerith’s body to the lake. He still hasn’t processed she’s dead. Honestly it’s something he’s processing even in Advent Children. This Remake Trilogy will connect better into what originally happened in Advent Children. If that’s still going to be canon by trilogy end.
Her eyes are kinda red when she says I’ll leave the rest to you. Interesting cause a chapter ago she ways saying you have to take care of yourself and leave Sephiroth to me.
Cid humming the FF main theme was such a nice touch
Seeing the Bronco fly away from a distance with the music accompanying it makes it feel like I really am saying “Goodbye”. It’s the same bitter sadness I feel from witnessing the ending to a Studio Ghibli film.
this ending is perfect
Bro I just finished this game last night. Couldn’t really be able to process or have emotion cause so much was going on. And decided to sleep on it.
I’m watching it again right now after getting rest and the second that the ending song plays I broke down so freaking hard. I told myself that when I first heard aerith sing the song that it’s going to hurt seeing her die and the ending but I WASNT READY TO BREAK DOWN THAT HARD. My freaking heart man. Seeing everyone sad, tifa crying, red possibly sensing aerith, and cloud seemingly unaffected and oblivious to what’s really going on and not being there comforting tifa. Not realizing that aerith is really gone even though he’s the only one who can see the alternate aerith.
The thing that hurts the most is the uncertainty, I’m actually scared for the third and final game. It’s like the game is telling you “don’t you start thinking you will see aerith again, that girl is gone”. While your literally seeing her see you off. Like wtf man. That “goodbye” really hit like a truck. Clouds mental instability towards the end of the game and you still seeing that. Feeling like sephiroth may very well be playing us for a fiddle and that not even this aerith that cloud sees is real. Realizing that he’s going to really have to come to terms to that.
“No promises await at journeys end”. Square please don’t break me again.
It’d be crazy if they can push the graphics to this level of detail during gameplay. This scene is beautiful
2:16 😳
That’s actually so fucking sick wait holy fyck
"Yeah man, just let me infuse my sword with the very thing that can destroy the world."
You can tell the advent children sources in this
Literally everything is the same as the original just with extra context now. Bizarro sephiroth actually makes sense now. Aerith is interacting with the cast through the lifestream just as intended.
Can you explain Bizarro Sephiroth?
Cid singing “THE Final Fantasy” theme in the background.
Imagine them all sitting in the tiny bronco watch cloud talking to himself outside
That „Goodbye“ and seeing Tifa and Red grieving hurt so much, while Aerith apparently cannot interact with them anymore. 😢
Tifa and Aerith were really close and their friendship was really fleshed out in the games so good.
Absolutely! I’m still thinking about the scene where Tifa looks shocked when she sees aeriths dying hand grasping clouds face. Maybe it’s just me but I felt some tension? 🤨
Barret @ 3:30 “don’t fuck up”
Oh boy he is gonna fuck up hence the expressions of concern.
That “goodbye” at the end fucking stings.
knowing a special friend won't be along for the ride is sad..
Cid humming the Final Fantasy theme❤
Didn't anyone else find it odd when Cid asked "So, what did Aerith actually do anyway?". I've been thinking of that and hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere else.
Yeah exactly, I can't seem to understand why he'd say that. It seems like he's meaning she didn't help them fix the Bronco at all but that wouldn't make any sense. My guess now is that he can't wrap his head around why Sephiroth killed Aerith of all people
@tg.tyrant2302_ pretty sure he was asking why she was there, was praying and what her goal was with it. Nobody answers because they don't really understand either. Nobody except cloud can see her at the end because she's dead.
Poor Tifa.... she's devastated..
Tifa is going to be even more broken at the start of part 3, until she fully restores Cloud’s mind.
Poor Aerith
"No promises await at journey's end." I thought about this line for a long while thinking about what it might mean for part 3. Suddenly, this Loveless line came to me: "Even if the Morrow is barren of promise, nothing shall forestall my return." Its likely wishful thinking on my part, but what do you think?
It would’ve been sadder had they showed everyone mourning without her spirit and included her just at the end. It would still be confusing and would be sadder
Agreed. I especially think her death scene needed more breathing room to hit home the tragedy. I like the Ghost Aerith and the idea that Cloud is imagining her, interacting with her in the life stream, or that’s it’s Jenova, whatever other ideas this brings, but it still needed to be brought up after we witness and experience her “death” rather than shown right at the most pivotal moment.
Exactly. Cloud is seeing Aerith. For him she migh not be dead in the sense that he cannot accept it or because he is quite literally seeing her as a ghost. But for everyone else, she is. For Cait Sith, Tifa, Barret, Yuffie, Red XIII, Vincent and Cid, Aerith isnt just dead and gone forever, but also sacrificed herself for them and the entire world. They are trying to mourn and in the middle of that Aerith appears. Its so off putting and could 100% been done better to, jsut as you say, hit home the tragedy.
And I get it, they did that for us to speculate about what is going on and maybe marketing and all of that. But when you see the whole image, the second part of the remake ending like that is just bad. For me at least@@tiflockhart5112
The game is so beautiful 😢
Anyone see the the 1-2 seconds after Cloud says he's going to stop Sephiroth and when Aerith says Promise?, there's a little red glint in her eyes? Could mean that Sephiroth is fabricating this force ghost esque vision of Aerith to Cloud to further make him go insane.
Man i don't want to wait who knows how many years til the next one I'm so sad😢
don't worry it's just 3 or 4 years
Remake has the best opening intro and Rebirth has the best sobbing ending. I'm crying so hard as to speak. 😥😥😥😥
The way Tifa isn’t her usual self at the end while Barret was waiting for her to respond or react to what Cloud said :(
I think when Tifa sees Cloud physically and mentally unstable in Mideel, she will have a complete mental breakdown in front of a broken Cloud.
Tifa is going to be even more broken at the start of part 3.
Given the way Areith was acting as well as Cloud, I feel like this isn’t some kind of time line convergence thing and more, Cloud is literally insane at this point and cannot accept her death to the point he was rewriting it in his head as she was dying.
That’s what I was thinking. Also the way everyone else is acting around him, especially tifa and barret. You can see they are worried/uneasy with cloud. Dude is going mad.
I think is story are is going to get extremely dark..
Yeah I think there will be something similar to him and Tifa in the Lifestream, and she'll help him to see that Aerith actually died. That's where we're going to get the iconic moment of him carrying Aerith into the water, because he'll remember it.
But Nanaki can actually feel her presense, showing that he isn’t just rewriting the story. The rifts in the sky are real to cloud, Something happened during the timeline convergence that he can actually see those things in the sky. Aerith did get saved in a timeline, just not the one cloud is living through right now. Thats why you can see Aerith help you in the fight with Sephiroth.
It's jenova
@@alexkho2815I have a feeling him saying "Aerith" could be that Nanaki feels the connection, but it could also be him asking Tifa either what she's crying about or something else I feel
Is no one gonna talk about how Cid is humming the original Final Fantasy theme song?
Just finished the game goddamnit I don’t want to wait four years for the next game 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
but you have to😢
The saddest thing I've ever seen. Somehow sadder than placing her into the water. Bravo!
don't worry the water scene will be in the next one for sure
@@jodaakbr7227I certainly hope so! We got a glimpse of Cloud's normal dialogue in the remake... I hope we get the full version in the remake. Ultimate #emotionaldamage
Yes, very emotional, the primary one being confusion.
@@RealKyndleNance only if you don't understand. The Director told people to watch Advent Children before playing this for a reason. Aerith interacts with Cloud through the whole movie in the same way. She's dead but the power of being a Cetra in the life stream lets her interact with who whoever she chooses.
@Haggy836 See the great thing about Star Trek is you don't need to learn Klingon to appreciate and enjoy it. OG ff7 was like that too. You don't need to know what Jenova Cells and Cetra are to understand that Sephiroth's a bad dude and you should want revenge.
If it’s well written it’s fine stop complaining
@@Haggy836no developer told people to watch advent children they just said that it will connect to advent children.
The point is that I don’t think it will and perhaps will lead to a happy ending because the multiverse was PRECISELY created for 1 reason: justify Aerith alive in the third game.
Why is no one talking about this online it’s so obvious
@@GodOfAI_ Shhh! Let the developers do their thing . . . 8)
Perfect timing on that takeoff moment with the pace of this soundtrack masterpice
It’s been a week since I beat the story. I still can’t get over this ending. So sad.
This ending is perfect. I love where they are going with new stuff.
Plus we finally get Aerith from original ff7 back. As she left at the end of remake being hidden by the planet in Zacks world using dead souls and Zack as her protector. And as a screen to hide her from Sephiroth who is searching for her the whole game and the white materia.
Then when the future 'real' Aeriths gives cloud the white materia even though she knows it will result in her death in that timeline, or the death of her body.
But now that the materia has been handed over she is free to leap across worlds as needed and help cloud defeat the meta sephiroth. Most likely rallying Zack to help as well as both are in the livestream.
I disagree - I think the ending compromised the emotional impact this game should've/could've had. No one knows what the hell is happening or what the state of things are, as reflecting by the myriad of theories going around just trying to make sense of what happened, and that's not a good thing. I understand this technically isn't a finish work since there's still Part 3 coming up.
But my two cents: Ambiguity is fine if it lies in where the story and characters go from here. But in order for that to happen, one has to know where "here" is to begin with. Ambiguity is not fine when it lies in the state of an *essential* plot point. While Aerith is clearly dead in the Prime Rebirth timeline, there are equally plausible suggestions that Aerith is alive in another timeline and/or Cloud is confabulating what happened and hallucinating Aerith. Nobody can truly say which is definitely right, and those who do, do so out of arrogance and overconfidence. The result of this, however, is that I find it very difficult to have a proper emotional reaction to Rebirth. Instead of leaving people feeling profound grief at an unambiguous death of Aerith or great hope and elation that Aerith survives this time, the ambiguity leaves many people, myself included, feeling neither because it seems like the ending tries to both and neither simultaneously.
I would argue that if, after all of this, the story ends up being the same, then all the trouble they went through with the Whispers and the introduction of a ridiculously convoluted multiverse/multiple worlds trope would've served no purpose other than the unnecessarily complicate what was a perfectly fine story to begin with in the OG FF7. It'd be poor writing at its best (or worst). Those new things have to have a purpose, which I'm sure will be addressed in Part 3, but currently, I feel like Rebirth's ending could've left off in a state that would've more naturally led into Part 3, such as how Disc 1 powerfully and perfectly led into Disc 2 in OG FF7.
@@natbrain9149 I kind of like not knowing. Half the fun is in speculating. None of us are probably right. But it keeps the discussion going alot longer than if it was laid out in black and white.
I know when cloud parried sephiroth's sword I was in shock and they had my full attention. I was like what is happening? What are they gonna do next?
And also I think the reaction from the party is kind of heartbreaking even in this ending. And also it so unnerving how okay cloud is with it all. It feels like he's completely lost the plot and it's pretty scary, which is a cool place for them to be going into part 3 imo.
Also I don't think it stops them from recapturing the meloncholy from the start of disc 2 in the party. Just go back and look a tifa. She is distraught. And cloud acting the way he is is going to lead to a huge confrontation.
And also I feel like with all this meta stuff going on Aerith and Zack are going to play a much bigger role in part 3. And that is exciting too.
@@DaRkLoRd-rc5yu ambuiguity is fine - it leads to interesting theories and fanfics and keeps fans involved. The question is more about what’s made clear and what’s been allowed to stay ambiguous.
There’s much excitement to be found in where Part 3 goes from here. Thing is, I wonder if Rebirth left *too much* ambiguous. I don’t think anyone can even make sense of where “here” is, except that Cloud has lost the plot worse than in OG FF7, he apparently can experience multiple worlds/timelines (since he’s the only one that can see the rift in the sky), and Aerith is dead in at least one timeline/world (the current Rebirth timeline). Everything else is anyone’s guess.
Cloud’s lack of grief could stem from denial, or going crazy, but it could just as well be that he knows something the rest of the party doesn’t, if he’s able to experience multiple realities now and knows different realities can affect change on other realities (like transferring the White Materia from one world to another). Maybe Aerith showed him something when she touched his cheek as she laid his arms in the same way she showed Marlene something in Seventh Heaven. In that sense, I don’t know whether to feel sad or hopeful. So I feel neither.
There’s just so many loose ends that Part 3 has to address, and the thing I don’t want is for Tetsuya Nomura to pull a Kingdom Hearts, although he isn’t primarily responsible for story writing. As much as I love Kingdom Hearts, its greatest weakness was arguably that it was so convoluted that even the best attempts to explain everything and tie up loose ends in KH3 left plenty of plot holes. Part 3 is sure to give us answers, but with where Rebirth left off, they’ve opened the door to a world where plot holes feel inevitable, and depending on how those are handled, it could compromise the impact the game has on us, which would be unfortunate given they already had good material to work with.
@@natbrain9149 I think part 3 will be a phenomenal game. And when it's all done I think part 3 will resolve alot of the mysteries set by part 2. In hind sight this ending I think will only get stronger.
But as for part 3 the way I see it as the key plot points it has to hit are
Northern crater
Rocket town
Wutai
Junon
Return to midgar
Back to northern crater for the finale
With maybe the submarine and rocket ship into space scenes included possibly as well.
But all of this with the fight with the weapons, the rest of the party's back stories. An airship with a world map and resolving all of the multiverse stuff.
And letting us play as Zack, Cid and Vincent. I think it's going to be really good and for me rebirth has proved they can deliver.
Also maybe a side dungeon to get knights of the round.
@@DaRkLoRd-rc5yuyeah - unfortunately we have to wait till probably 2028.
It’s kind of weird what’s happening now because this is really (in my experience at least) the first time where we have a game series where one of the games isn’t at least somewhat self-resolving due to being part of a larger arc. Yes, we’ve had other game franchises and series that had sequels and picked up where previous games left off (Yakuza, Kingdom Hearts, Uncharted, and even individual installations of Final Fantasy eg FFX and FFX-2), but each individual game in those series had some level of self-resolution that allowed them to be somewhat self-sustaining despite loose ends that leave room for sequels or prequels. They each had their own individual stories that fell into greater arc of larger series.
Rebirth is completely different. It manages to be both a prequel and sequel simultaneously, while being neither a prequel nor a sequel. Its story literally cannot stand on its own in any way, apart from Remake or Part 3, because it’s one huge arc. With Remake, at least we could say we were starting at the beginning (Crisis Core not withstanding). With Part 3, we can say we’re finishing the story. Rebirth is the odd middle child, and any final conclusions or feelings we have about Rebirth cannot be truly finalized until something that happens 4 years after its release. I’m not sure we’ve ever experienced this in the popular gaming world yet. At least I haven’t.
I don’t understand the hate this ending gets. I cried so much in the last two chapters. The trials in the temple and Aerith’s death. I’m not confused cause they way I interpret it is Cloud is talking to Aerith through the life stream occasionally just like advent children. He cried when she was in his arms but we know it won’t set in for him until advent children. She exists in cloud’s mind as a guiding voice to counteract Sephiroth, but also a brutal reminder of his failure. It’s extremely sad.
either me and you are dumb or we’re of the few who understand that these remakes are based on the compilation and that the “changes” are mostly context for something
Seriously! They act like this is the conclusive ending for the entire trilogy…this ending is beautiful and bittersweet and still sets up a lot to be explored at same time
Yeah I think I have the dots connected. 3rd game is going to be WILD. I think it will be revealed that Cloud killed Aerith. There is a reason why Sephiroth spent the entirety of Rebirth trying to pull Tifa away from Cloud. He knows that she puts him back together. But you can see through the game how strained their relationship is. And it is heavily inferred through her body language after the death and in the ending video here that she is extremely sus of Cloud. Also, the whispers only let Cloud inside to see Aerith at the alter versus the original game. Sephiroth keeps telling Cloud to hold onto that hatred from the beginning of Remake. I think it all culminates here. Also, Cloud constantly asking to be forgiven in AC implies he DID something awful and they already confirmed part 3 will tie into AC. Also, Aerith in the church scene with Cloud before the Forgotten city is 100% Aerith from OG. I also think that OG Aerith and OG Sephiroth and engaged in this "eternal battle" in the lifestream which moves back and forth. I think the whispers showed up in the beginning because Sephiroth interfered with the timeline which is why you see in the opening itself Aerith get spooked [which didn't happen in OG] so like in the Terminator movies, there had to be a response. So OG Aerith somehow imbued Remake Aerith with memories or knowledge of future events. Not really sure how that all happened yet, but I'm sure it will be explained. The only thing I'm not really sure of is why did the whispers drain the Remake timeline's Holy materia? I guess we will find that out as well as Cloud has the empty orb which I'm sure will be significant. It obviously goes without saying that Cloud sees what Aerith and Sephiroth have been able to see since the beginning of Remake. I think this clairvoyance will come at a cost as he still has his sanity to manage. Plus, I think his relationship with Tifa and likely Barret and the rest is going to sour. There will be some major drama there which may significantly impact his recovery from the mako poisoning.
@@noobgrinderTVwhat lol? Cloud did not kill aerith. The reason sephiroth is trying to strain tifa and clouds relationship is because he’s knows what happens in the other timelines and that tifa is the one who can save cloud and stop his hold over him, with tifa out of the way that will allow sephiroth to fully control cloud. Tifa is weary of cloud because she already knows that cloud is struggling to hold on to his sanity and now with aerith dying and cloud telling people not to look up in the sky because it’s an illusion she knows that he is on the verge of completely breaking which scares her.
@@noobgrinderTVthe fact that this game ties into ac proves that cloud didn’t kill aerith. The reason he ask for forgiveness is because he failed to save her. Cloud is someone who suffers heavily from guilt so not being able to protect those he cares for takes a toll on him .
(40yr old male that consumed all ff7 content for the past like 24 years except dirge of cerberus) i'm 40% through the game when i couldn't help myself and watched this ending like 6 weeks ago and haven't touched the game... i think i've recovered enough and its time to continue playing... *cries some more
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Jake from Adventure Time:
How come you didn't do that earlier