Misha your videos on the VZ58 convinced me to buy a CSA VZ 58 Military. It’s an excellent rifle and a really great addition to my Cold War collection. Much appreciated!
I enjoy your videos although I am not able to collect firearms. I really appreciate your Czech and Swiss arms and accessories. I have some uniform and gear from both countries and it is always an interesting development on equipment produced in the USSR and WW2 Germany
Thanks for another video over the 58! I recently watched your previous videos on it and enjoyed them. I'd love to see a video covering AK underfolders only (not all folding types). I know you don't do a "top five" style but I'd be interested to know what some of your favorite underfolder styles/types are even though I know you don't enjoy them as much as others.
Not a ton of different UF stock variants. Basically you have the original AKS47 and then the later AKMS. From there you have the Chinese style and the Romanian variants.
Sure, though there doesn't seem to be a lot of information online aside from forum opinions concerning which style of underfolder is more comfortable/easier to shoot and whether or not variants from various countries are more pleasant for one reason or another. I'm looking for some detailed knowledge and opinions honestly.
They are pretty great. I wouldn't get one over an AK, but if someone already has an AK and is wanting another gun in 7.62x39? A Vz58 would be very high on my recomend list.
@@misha5670 it’s definitely on the list but I still have a couple more AKs higher on the list. Really wanna get a M762 Beryl to go with my 5.56, and seeing as the 5.56 Beryl is fast becoming my go-to rifle, it’d be great if I could get a backup. And of course a WBP because I’m finding the Polish guns to be maybe even a little nicer than my Russians.
I have noticed the same thing over the years. The Century VZ2008 seems over gassed + is built using surplus springs with who knows how many miles on them? I like the original D-Ts the most too because those were built with pretty much all original and unissued VZ58 military parts, including barrel and bolt group.
Agreed- got the D-T rifle with beech furniture when they first came out and a vz2008 several years later with beaver barf. The D-T is one of my favorites after I welded in the shim into the bolt to correct the dead trigger issue 😁
Not sure of current 2021 going rate? I've bought the imports for as little as $800 and seen them sell on GB for as much as $2k. Typically, price seems to be between $1.1k and $1.3k depending on the variant. Wood furniture adds a premium, beaver adds a small increase, and black polymer tends to be the most afordable.
Great video, the Czech made stuff is very interesting. Looks like a very well made rifle. Also, their ammo seems to be showing up right now, branded as Sellier & Bellot Tactical. Brass cased, 124 grain, usually about $12 a box. How great would it be to see this become the new cheap norm, I think they could do it.
Opps Centurys' popped up but not really interested in those varieties. My purchases are over for this year! By the by that zpap 85 got out today. My goodness that thing had me grinning ear to ear. 4 inch group 10 shots at 100 yards! Red dot was covering entire target. I really couldn't see shit but I figure I did ok considering. What a blast, literally and figuratively. That compensator is super obnoxious. I love it 150 rounds no issues at all. No more golden tiger left. Happy Holidays to one and all!
Curious how much similar (or dissimilar) ballistically is 7.62x45 to the soviet round? What is the typical bullet weight and muzzle velocity? Does it operate at a comparable chamber pressure of the x39, which is about 45kpsi?
Sorry, that's not really my field of expertese. I bet there are some articles online though. A couple things I can say is that the Czech military judged the X45 round effective out to 650 meters, while the X39 only out to 450 m. The 52's sights adjust up to 1,000 meters, while the 52/57 go up to 900 meters.
Is it possible to get a gun with the correct under 16" barrel and the bayonette lug today? I'm guessing I would have to buy used because they now ship with 16" barrels.
The reason i have the fixed stocker here is that was about the only way to get both the 15.4" barrel & bayonet lug back then. Czechpoint didn't start shipping with lugs until well after switching to the 16" barrel.
The VZ58 stripper clips work fine in the SKSs I've tried them in. They are ever so slightly slimmer than Yugo clips. I got a few dozen for 60¢ each because they were sold as Chinese.
The difference is with the location of the stop bumps. With the Vz clips, they are higher up on the body as the clip sticks deeper down into the rifle. This is why a Vz clip will still work ok in an SKS, but an SKS clip sets a bit too high to feed 100% reliably in a Vz.
Sorry, i don't know? Once upon a time, Czechpoint had them for $10 used surplus. That was where i grabbed a few. Even made some into utility knives for use around the property lol.
HELP! Lol I bought a WBP Fox Jack classic AK recently and I was wondering if I should keep it hidden away in a box or shoot it? I’m not against buying a cheap AK to shoot
I would want to see a video on every single gun you own(your whole collection). Not a in-depth look into each just a brief overview would be nice and then a in depth video on each of the guns. Just a suggestion.
there are quite a few history channels on here where guys are making a living by putting up a few pictures, and they talk about some different events in history
Im all about the revisiting of guns because feelings change, experience changes, and we learn new things with new perspective. Thanks a lot misha.
Sometimes i just have to get old favorites out of the vault.
how to i find out about your store ? thanks it be cool to get one from u thanks
Love the Vz.58! I will get a Zastava rifle and a Vz.58. Great video!
Misha your videos on the VZ58 convinced me to buy a CSA VZ 58 Military. It’s an excellent rifle and a really great addition to my Cold War collection. Much appreciated!
Wish Czechpoint would give me a commission lol
6k rounds through my vz2008 century. Still shoots 2-3 moa at 100 yards irons rested. Wear patterns are smooth as a baby bottom after the 3k mark.
First gun i got from Mishaco. Excellent gun!
Happy you are still enjoying it.
It's a beaver barf kinda day, Nice selection
Reminds me of Taco Bell.
I'm always happy to see another VZ58 video.
I am picking up a VZ.58 for myself for Christmas. Surprised I haven’t already grabbed one in all these years.
Love those vz.58’s so much!
I love everything about the VZ58! I've got a folding stock version and I'll more than likely be buying another one... Maybe a shorty in 762.
I enjoy your videos although I am not able to collect firearms.
I really appreciate your Czech and Swiss arms and accessories.
I have some uniform and gear from both countries and it is always an interesting development on equipment produced in the USSR and WW2 Germany
That's ok, one of my best friends since childhood isn't able to collect firearms either. We still enjoy talking military history.
Very Nice Rifle Misha 😀 I Was Thinking One Would Be Nice in My Collection One Day 👍🏼
Thanks for another video over the 58! I recently watched your previous videos on it and enjoyed them.
I'd love to see a video covering AK underfolders only (not all folding types). I know you don't do a "top five" style but I'd be interested to know what some of your favorite underfolder styles/types are even though I know you don't enjoy them as much as others.
Not a ton of different UF stock variants. Basically you have the original AKS47 and then the later AKMS. From there you have the Chinese style and the Romanian variants.
Sure, though there doesn't seem to be a lot of information online aside from forum opinions concerning which style of underfolder is more comfortable/easier to shoot and whether or not variants from various countries are more pleasant for one reason or another. I'm looking for some detailed knowledge and opinions honestly.
Dear Santa, I would like an original M1 Garand for Christmas! Love the vids Misha!!
My dad got me one for Christmas 20 some-odd years ago.
I have the vz2008. Love the damn thing. Never a missfeed or misfire. Love it as much as my saiga AK.
I really need to get one. Back in 2009 I almost got a VZ58 over an Arsenal SGL20 but ended up going with the SGL. Still want a VZ58.
They are pretty great. I wouldn't get one over an AK, but if someone already has an AK and is wanting another gun in 7.62x39? A Vz58 would be very high on my recomend list.
@@misha5670 it’s definitely on the list but I still have a couple more AKs higher on the list. Really wanna get a M762 Beryl to go with my 5.56, and seeing as the 5.56 Beryl is fast becoming my go-to rifle, it’d be great if I could get a backup. And of course a WBP because I’m finding the Polish guns to be maybe even a little nicer than my Russians.
@@cajuncatfish5417 I am digging this new 'Jack' rifle from WBP. Its really damn close to a 1980s era style Polish circle11 KBK AKM.
@@misha5670 Yep, just saw it yesterday. It looks amazing.
I have a D Technik, and it’s noticeably smoother/less recoil than the Century and also the Czechpoint ones
I have noticed the same thing over the years. The Century VZ2008 seems over gassed + is built using surplus springs with who knows how many miles on them? I like the original D-Ts the most too because those were built with pretty much all original and unissued VZ58 military parts, including barrel and bolt group.
Agreed- got the D-T rifle with beech furniture when they first came out and a vz2008 several years later with beaver barf. The D-T is one of my favorites after I welded in the shim into the bolt to correct the dead trigger issue 😁
I like it.
How much is it and how do I find one?
Not sure of current 2021 going rate? I've bought the imports for as little as $800 and seen them sell on GB for as much as $2k. Typically, price seems to be between $1.1k and $1.3k depending on the variant. Wood furniture adds a premium, beaver adds a small increase, and black polymer tends to be the most afordable.
Very good rifle! Love it!
Great video, the Czech made stuff is very interesting. Looks like a very well made rifle. Also, their ammo seems to be showing up right now, branded as Sellier & Bellot Tactical. Brass cased, 124 grain, usually about $12 a box. How great would it be to see this become the new cheap norm, I think they could do it.
Sellier & Bellot is one of the oldest running ammo manufacturers in the world, made in Czech rep.. good stuff
I hear Misha talk, I click 👍🏻.
Sounds like the opposite of most marriages ;p
Never should have sold mine
Correct
LOVE my VZ200.
this one looks very beautiful!
Opps Centurys' popped up but not really interested in those varieties. My purchases are over for this year! By the by that zpap 85 got out today. My goodness that thing had me grinning ear to ear. 4 inch group 10 shots at 100 yards! Red dot was covering entire target. I really couldn't see shit but I figure I did ok considering. What a blast, literally and figuratively. That compensator is super obnoxious. I love it 150 rounds no issues at all. No more golden tiger left. Happy Holidays to one and all!
Curious how much similar (or dissimilar) ballistically is 7.62x45 to the soviet round? What is the typical bullet weight and muzzle velocity? Does it operate at a comparable chamber pressure of the x39, which is about 45kpsi?
Sorry, that's not really my field of expertese. I bet there are some articles online though. A couple things I can say is that the Czech military judged the X45 round effective out to 650 meters, while the X39 only out to 450 m. The 52's sights adjust up to 1,000 meters, while the 52/57 go up to 900 meters.
Is it possible to get a gun with the correct under 16" barrel and the bayonette lug today? I'm guessing I would have to buy used because they now ship with 16" barrels.
The reason i have the fixed stocker here is that was about the only way to get both the 15.4" barrel & bayonet lug back then. Czechpoint didn't start shipping with lugs until well after switching to the 16" barrel.
where can i get a good vz58 at ? thanks great video as normal!!
Atlantic gets them (the Czech Small Arms ones) in every so often
thanks 😊
great video by the way!!!
@@rhombifer566 Czechpoint-USA is both the importer and distributer. Its a small company, but run by good people.
thanks 😊
I was wondering how much it cost in production per rifle. Thanks again. 👍 😎🙏
Honestly in comunist command economies its very difficult to really know. You can't trust the numbers given by the gov't at the time.
The VZ58 stripper clips work fine in the SKSs I've tried them in. They are ever so slightly slimmer than Yugo clips. I got a few dozen for 60¢ each because they were sold as Chinese.
The difference is with the location of the stop bumps. With the Vz clips, they are higher up on the body as the clip sticks deeper down into the rifle. This is why a Vz clip will still work ok in an SKS, but an SKS clip sets a bit too high to feed 100% reliably in a Vz.
Man I never find cool deals like that. Good find
where can u pick one of the bayonets up at? u kno?
Sorry, i don't know? Once upon a time, Czechpoint had them for $10 used surplus. That was where i grabbed a few. Even made some into utility knives for use around the property lol.
HELP! Lol I bought a WBP Fox Jack classic AK recently and I was wondering if I should keep it hidden away in a box or shoot it? I’m not against buying a cheap AK to shoot
Shoot it. The only AK worth keeping unfired in a box is the Cinese imports.
I have found a decent stockpile of VZ-58s for 550$ a piece. Is this an okay price?
'VZ58' or 'VZ2008' ?
Where at? That is better than what they go for now.
I've always wanted to lay my paws on a vz58. Never could find one. Centurys
I have a pair of these, and when I shoot mine I think I need at least one more 😁
Right there with ya'
I've wanted one for years 😪 I've started to grab 1 several times and ended up with HKs CZs Glocks and 1911s
That's funny I am almost done with my vz58 build
See, I'm good at being timely hehe
What kind of slav are you Misha?
Not a true one since I've not had time to touch a drop of liquor in over 6 months. Lord, I'm getting boring in my old age lol j/k
If only the CZ58 were chambered in the 7.62x45mm Chech round! ❤
Would be interesting but ammo availability is a small issue there.
@@shawnoandrew Seems to be a small issue everywhere...... 😕
I would want to see a video on every single gun you own(your whole collection). Not a in-depth look into each just a brief overview would be nice and then a in depth video on each of the guns. Just a suggestion.
Just doing something that big, dragging out so many things makes me feel exhausted lol
@@misha5670 If you get the time the would be great but i didn't think you had that many guns lol. Love the channel
Nice Ak
Where?
@@misha5670 omgosh I feel totally retarded haha
Excellent rifles. In certain ways better than the AKM.
Watching this while. It be snowing lovely
Its 70 freakin' degrees here today. Of course it was 25 degrees here just a couple days ago.
When will Fox try this out?
there are quite a few history channels on here where guys are making a living by putting up a few pictures, and they talk about some different events in history
I want to do a new video on my cat Peanut. She's the bestest girl ever.
@@misha5670 there you go, being a dill weed about it
@@spacecatboy2962 That's so going to be the name given to my next kitten.
@@misha5670 haha
@@misha5670 my 4 newest kittens are named dinger, fluffy, tub, and scamper
If only the rifle was more modular, it would probably be the most superior infantry rifle ever made
AK521
I’m all for this gun… but no AK mags :(
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