My dealer just told me my 3 year service is due and this job is part of it. Told me its a 12 hour job and would cost me over 3k. I love this car but that kind of bill is a first for me. After watching your video I can see where that time and money goes. Hopefully whichever tech does my job will have your knowledge. Thanks for the vid!
To be honest 12 hours is overkill. For 3k you should be getting more than just the belt service. We charge 8 hours for the belt service, then add spark plugs, filters, oil change, brake fluid flush and multi point inspection it usually comes in around $3200 plus tax and I’m in California.
@@hycastro Actually they did all of what you listed. It was a 3 year service no just the belt. $3500 total. Unfortunately someone did not attach a hose clamp well enough and by Saturday nightfall I had coolant running out of the front left bumper. Of course being Sunday the dealership was closed next day so I had to stay an extra night. They got me flatbedded next morning and got it fixed and pressure tested but I missed a half day of work. The closest dealership to me is 100 miles away. Car has been great since though.
I’m sorry that happened to you. Glad you got the proper service though. Those hoses are definitely tricky because each one has to be ran and connected to the correct spot or bad things will arise. Glad they took care of you and did their due diligence.
Wow, man....what a great and thorough video on this amazing car and engine! I hope to have a QV some day soon, but after having recently done the timing belt, water pump and seals on my 2JZ-GE, I can see that this Alfa is a WHOLE LOT more complicated! LOL Thanks for the detailed vid!
Thank you for the awesome video! I'd love to see the video of putting all of these back on and filling the fluids. Would be awesome to know every step. Thanks again!
That one will definitely be coming up soon. I’ve been so slammed with work that it’s been hard to make content but keep on the lookout for a reassembly video as well as a 4C re-torque video.
Thanks for the support. You’d be surprised how many people think the exact same thing. You think of a drive belt not being a super hard thing to do because it used to be something that was achievable by the average Joe, but then this design came about and bam! Now you gotta see the dealer.
Thanks for the detailed video. After seeing all the steps I don't know if I could trust a random mechanic to do this right. I might have to do it myself just for peace of mind but it looks like a pain either way
Just replaced the accessory belt on my 2017 Giulia Quad, and I would not have attempted it without your video. It's a big job, but your video made it clear and very doable. I can't thank you enough for all the assistance this provided! I do have one question, and I'm almost afraid of the answer; the input hose going to the charge air cooler on the left side showed obvious oil contamination, even to the point the oil dripped from the cooler when it was taken off. The right side was bone dry. Since, I believe, that input comes directly from the turbo output, this probably means my left side turbo is bad. The car hasn't thrown any codes, or shown any driveability issues. I this an early indication of a turbo going out? Thanks.
Brilliant video , makes me question if i should do this myself hahah . Do you know if there's an easy way to inspect the belt without taking most of the car apart?
Beautiful video. I'm getting ready to do this on mine, is there much reason to replace idlers and tensioner at 35,000 miles other than the fact that its a ton of work to get there and as a "while you're in there"?
Thanks for the great video. Extremely helpful when doing this job. I’ve done two now. Have you come across a Giulia QV lack the power and acceleration it should have? No errors in engine ECU or any other modules. Just seems quite sluggish. Thanks!
Yes I have and it’s usually a turbocharger issue. Sometimes it takes a while to get the code to set but it’s usually a underboost code. In order to get it to set you have to drive the car hard. The ecm needs to see that the recommended boost requested is not being supplied. Driving normal will not cause this code to pop. Diverter valve also causes this issue.
@@hycastro Thanks for the reply! I found the issue… the vacuum storage canister under the left hand wheel liner had a broken fitting. No boost and exhaust constantly open due to no vacuum. Easy fix (thankfully) 😁
is it advisable to replace the radiator hoses due to the engine heat after 30k miles? Also should you go deeper to swap out timing chain and guides? Also the tensioner for the serpentine belt looks a lot like the mechanical tensioner on the Busso engines. Am I correct?
No hoses need to be replaced unless they are leaking, timing chain and guides are on the back of the engine and never need to be serviced, the serpentine belt tensioner is a spring loaded mechanical part.
Morning mate i was wondering if you could help me watching your video when your stripping the front end on the quadrifoglio. The rail behind the bumper that holds the top panel for the splitter in the middle behind the bumper there is a fill in im trying to find out the part number would you have any idea
Definitely not doing that myself, that's a crazy amount of things to take off and put back. 😵 When should that belt be changed out and what are the symptoms of a bad belt?
Every 4 years or 30,000 miles. The symptoms of a bad belt are usually the same for any belt but seeing that this is such a pain to get to and the engine is around 40-50k you don’t want to run the risk of it tearing and allowing your water pump to stop operating thus overheating your engine. I always say better safe than sorry.
Hi. At 8.12 you disconnect that temperature sensor in the back of the radiator . Do you know what that’s for? I don’t seem to have that on my car. If I Wantef to order it what should I ask for, ? Thanks.
Followed your steps to a tee! Thanks man. My car was in a crash and some of the coolant hoses broke so I changed them also while doing this. Before I fill her back up with the costly petronas coolant, i was wondering if it is possible to check there are still no leaks with plain water or is that a big no?! Obviously If no leaks I would drain the water via the plugs on side of radiator and fill it back with 50% patronas and 50 % water.
You can do that with water to check for leaks. When you drain the water and go to refill with coolant do a 75/25 mixture since you will have water in the engine that you cannot drain out. That way you should end up with the perfect 50/50 mix.
What's the change interval for replacing the serpentine belt? HATS off to you on a lengthy process like that. Crazy how hard they made it change just a belt on a Alfa😮
question my qv shakes at idle changed the spark plugs and still does it. can it be the old serpentine belt due to it needing to be replaced every 4 years? taken it to the dealer and they said nothing is wrong with it.
How many miles does it have and have you done a fuel induction cleaning? GDI engines need that done at least every other year or 15k miles. Serpentine belt is just for controlling the accessories on the engine such as the alternator, water pump, and a/c compressor but you do want to make sure you take care of that belt on time because if it breaks you will be left stranded.
If you want to do that you can but I always just use screw hose clamps, so that way if I ever need to take it apart again in the future for either a repair or the next belt service I know that it will be easy and no cutting will be necessary.
It’s time to do mine even though it’s a 2017 with 13k miles on it. I need help to discharge the AC. What else should I change while I’m in there. Please do more videos like this please. Thanks man, thanks for sharing!
So I will just say that I can usually make good time on these and I like to keep the car for a couple days to make sure all is good. The Ferrari sticker was added by the customer.
@@octanecj I’m located at the Burlingame location at the cjd building. I’m the only Alfa tech so you won’t have to worry about anyone else touching your car. As far as replacing anything else, there’s nothing really that you would have to worry about replacing at such a low mileage but I do perform a inspection while I’m in there.
@@hycastro Wow, perfect! I've been looking for someone to do maintenance and repair on my 2020 Giulia QV. Is there a way to PM you on this TH-cam platform?
hey alfa_tech. just bought brand new 22 QV, i have researched couldn't find any straight answer, is there break in period for Qv engine or brakes/transmission for brand new car.? appreciate your input. thanks
With any new car I always make sure to baby it for the first 1,000 miles which I know is a little overkill but I’d rather be safe than sorry. I know the Hellcats and Ram trx have the mileage monitored by the ecm so for the first 500 miles, and it’s only allowed so much boost and has 500hp available. After 500 miles, track mode is able to be enabled and the other 200hp is available. Yes I know Dodge and Alfa are not the same but FCA is all under the same umbrella so I would just baby it.
@@hycastro I knew that, but I was trying to find out if there anything special I have to do other than babying( not redlining or crazy acceleration) thx.
Was seriously thinking of buying this car until I happened upon this video. Trusting a Tech who could do this properly at a dealership would be my biggest worry especially putting it all back together properly. Insane almost laughable amount of Labor what was Alfa engineers thinking. Working on BMW's now looks like a walk in the park.
Agreed, also if you can afford this car you probably got an extended warranty , or can afford services. I'm looking into buying one of these now. Only because it's absolutely disgusting for its price vs performance. Great video
It’s honestly not that bad after the 3rd time of doing it. It’s very tedious work. You must be organized or else that car will show up again on a flatbed.
Yeah too many dealers are trying to rip people off with the belt jobs and I hate it. We’ve been charging people the same price we’ve been charging since we got Alfa.
Do the giulia QV start rough at times? Like I can feel the cylinders turning over at start but throwing no codes. Runs fine from what I can feel. Battery was at 12.41 amps. Hot day here in GA. Any thoughts? You are the guru here.
@52 seconds-that’s the sound of a Tech getting a Serpentine belt job. 😂
Dang. That is intense! Whatever they are paying you, it's not enough. Thanks for sharing!
- Hopeful future Alfa owner
Hats off to you. This is insane. I just replaced the one in my VW GTI. $38 for the belt and 5 minutes of work. :-)
My dealer just told me my 3 year service is due and this job is part of it. Told me its a 12 hour job and would cost me over 3k. I love this car but that kind of bill is a first for me. After watching your video I can see where that time and money goes. Hopefully whichever tech does my job will have your knowledge. Thanks for the vid!
To be honest 12 hours is overkill. For 3k you should be getting more than just the belt service. We charge 8 hours for the belt service, then add spark plugs, filters, oil change, brake fluid flush and multi point inspection it usually comes in around $3200 plus tax and I’m in California.
@@hycastro
Actually they did all of what you listed. It was a 3 year service no just the belt. $3500 total. Unfortunately someone did not attach a hose clamp well enough and by Saturday nightfall I had coolant running out of the front left bumper. Of course being Sunday the dealership was closed next day so I had to stay an extra night. They got me flatbedded next morning and got it fixed and pressure tested but I missed a half day of work. The closest dealership to me is 100 miles away. Car has been great since though.
I’m sorry that happened to you. Glad you got the proper service though. Those hoses are definitely tricky because each one has to be ran and connected to the correct spot or bad things will arise. Glad they took care of you and did their due diligence.
Was told I had a crankshaft oil leak on mine, and they also replaced the belt due to oil contamination, what a job, respect.
Wow, man....what a great and thorough video on this amazing car and engine! I hope to have a QV some day soon, but after having recently done the timing belt, water pump and seals on my 2JZ-GE, I can see that this Alfa is a WHOLE LOT more complicated! LOL Thanks for the detailed vid!
Please Keep the videos coming! They are fantastic! Great Job
Thanks for the support, I greatly appreciate it.
Thank you for the awesome video! I'd love to see the video of putting all of these back on and filling the fluids. Would be awesome to know every step. Thanks again!
That one will definitely be coming up soon. I’ve been so slammed with work that it’s been hard to make content but keep on the lookout for a reassembly video as well as a 4C re-torque video.
Keep up the great work your great to watch .wish you were closer to look after giulia quadrifoglio I'm in the uk .
Thanks for the support. I hear that from a lot of people all over the US as well. I wish I was able to clone myself to help everyone out lol.
Dam man. I was thinking about doing it myself but never mind. Great video.
Thanks for the support. You’d be surprised how many people think the exact same thing. You think of a drive belt not being a super hard thing to do because it used to be something that was achievable by the average Joe, but then this design came about and bam! Now you gotta see the dealer.
thanks for the belt service video
No problem
Thanks for the detailed video. After seeing all the steps I don't know if I could trust a random mechanic to do this right. I might have to do it myself just for peace of mind but it looks like a pain either way
Just replaced the accessory belt on my 2017 Giulia Quad, and I would not have attempted it without your video. It's a big job, but your video made it clear and very doable. I can't thank you enough for all the assistance this provided! I do have one question, and I'm almost afraid of the answer; the input hose going to the charge air cooler on the left side showed obvious oil contamination, even to the point the oil dripped from the cooler when it was taken off. The right side was bone dry. Since, I believe, that input comes directly from the turbo output, this probably means my left side turbo is bad. The car hasn't thrown any codes, or shown any driveability issues. I this an early indication of a turbo going out? Thanks.
I thought I wanted one of these… I think I might be all set
Nice job
Subscribed!
hell yeah. great content
Thanks for the love and support
I had mine belt done at 32k miles and find out there oil inside of right side turbo. Had they replaced turbo under the warranty.
Lol, this was a 5 minute job on my S2000 and belt was like $10-20 bucks. My mechanic actually replaced it for free because it was that easy.
Excuse me , do you know what is the part number for the ACC module for a QV 2018 by any chance?, thanks!
I have done that job, takes some time 😅
Nice!
Thanks man I appreciate the love.
Brilliant video , makes me question if i should do this myself hahah .
Do you know if there's an easy way to inspect the belt without taking most of the car apart?
Beautiful video. I'm getting ready to do this on mine, is there much reason to replace idlers and tensioner at 35,000 miles other than the fact that its a ton of work to get there and as a "while you're in there"?
No I wouldn’t bother replacing them at all. Those are items that very rarely fail and when they do, they will make a ton of noise before they go out.
Thanks for the great video. Extremely helpful when doing this job. I’ve done two now.
Have you come across a Giulia QV lack the power and acceleration it should have? No errors in engine ECU or any other modules. Just seems quite sluggish.
Thanks!
Yes I have and it’s usually a turbocharger issue. Sometimes it takes a while to get the code to set but it’s usually a underboost code. In order to get it to set you have to drive the car hard. The ecm needs to see that the recommended boost requested is not being supplied. Driving normal will not cause this code to pop. Diverter valve also causes this issue.
@@hycastro Thanks for the reply! I found the issue… the vacuum storage canister under the left hand wheel liner had a broken fitting. No boost and exhaust constantly open due to no vacuum. Easy fix (thankfully) 😁
is it advisable to replace the radiator hoses due to the engine heat after 30k miles? Also should you go deeper to swap out timing chain and guides? Also the tensioner for the serpentine belt looks a lot like the mechanical tensioner on the Busso engines. Am I correct?
No hoses need to be replaced unless they are leaking, timing chain and guides are on the back of the engine and never need to be serviced, the serpentine belt tensioner is a spring loaded mechanical part.
Morning mate i was wondering if you could help me watching your video when your stripping the front end on the quadrifoglio. The rail behind the bumper that holds the top panel for the splitter in the middle behind the bumper there is a fill in im trying to find out the part number would you have any idea
Do me a favor and follow me on ig @ the.alfa.doctor and send me some pics of what your referring to so we can get you the right part numbers.
Definitely not doing that myself, that's a crazy amount of things to take off and put back. 😵 When should that belt be changed out and what are the symptoms of a bad belt?
Every 4 years or 30,000 miles. The symptoms of a bad belt are usually the same for any belt but seeing that this is such a pain to get to and the engine is around 40-50k you don’t want to run the risk of it tearing and allowing your water pump to stop operating thus overheating your engine. I always say better safe than sorry.
Hi. At 8.12 you disconnect that temperature sensor in the back of the radiator . Do you know what that’s for? I don’t seem to have that on my car. If I Wantef to order it what should I ask for, ? Thanks.
That’s the radiator coolant temperature sensor.
Followed your steps to a tee! Thanks man. My car was in a crash and some of the coolant hoses broke so I changed them also while doing this. Before I fill her back up with the costly petronas coolant, i was wondering if it is possible to check there are still no leaks with plain water or is that a big no?! Obviously If no leaks I would drain the water via the plugs on side of radiator and fill it back with 50% patronas and 50 % water.
You can do that with water to check for leaks. When you drain the water and go to refill with coolant do a 75/25 mixture since you will have water in the engine that you cannot drain out. That way you should end up with the perfect 50/50 mix.
@@hycastro thanks bro. Its ok to run the engine abit and let the water flow around the system to make sure right?
I don’t see why not but another option is to go to autozone or oreillys and get a cooling system pressure tester to rent for like $10
What's the change interval for replacing the serpentine belt? HATS off to you on a lengthy process like that. Crazy how hard they made it change just a belt on a Alfa😮
question my qv shakes at idle changed the spark plugs and still does it. can it be the old serpentine belt due to it needing to be replaced every 4 years? taken it to the dealer and they said nothing is wrong with it.
How many miles does it have and have you done a fuel induction cleaning? GDI engines need that done at least every other year or 15k miles. Serpentine belt is just for controlling the accessories on the engine such as the alternator, water pump, and a/c compressor but you do want to make sure you take care of that belt on time because if it breaks you will be left stranded.
@@hycastro mine just pasted 42k and i do daily it probably put 3k miles a month on it but never have done fuel induction cleaning.
Hey. Great video. At 13.35 you cut that clamp off, I see it’s a cv boot type clamp but what’s that extra small thing for and what’s it called?
That’s just part of the clamp.
@@hycastro Cool. So it’s ok if I just use a normal cv boot type clamp right? Like the one that’s on most of the other hoses.
If you want to do that you can but I always just use screw hose clamps, so that way if I ever need to take it apart again in the future for either a repair or the next belt service I know that it will be easy and no cutting will be necessary.
It’s time to do mine even though it’s a 2017 with 13k miles on it.
I need help to discharge the AC.
What else should I change while I’m in there.
Please do more videos like this please.
Thanks man, thanks for sharing!
At 13k don’t bother looking for anything else to change, just replace the belt. Thanks so much for the love, I will continue to do more videos.
@@hycastro awesome!
Thanks for the video! About how many shop hours would you estimate? Also, is the Ferrari sticker OEM on a 2018 or added by the owner?
So I will just say that I can usually make good time on these and I like to keep the car for a couple days to make sure all is good. The Ferrari sticker was added by the customer.
@@hycastro While you're in there besides belt replacement is it prudent to replace anything else at that time e.g. water pump, etc? Thanks!
Also, I noticed the car has CA plates. Where are you located? I'm in the SF Bay Area.
@@octanecj I’m located at the Burlingame location at the cjd building. I’m the only Alfa tech so you won’t have to worry about anyone else touching your car. As far as replacing anything else, there’s nothing really that you would have to worry about replacing at such a low mileage but I do perform a inspection while I’m in there.
@@hycastro Wow, perfect! I've been looking for someone to do maintenance and repair on my 2020 Giulia QV. Is there a way to PM you on this TH-cam platform?
hey alfa_tech. just bought brand new 22 QV, i have researched couldn't find any straight answer, is there break in period for Qv engine or brakes/transmission for brand new car.? appreciate your input. thanks
With any new car I always make sure to baby it for the first 1,000 miles which I know is a little overkill but I’d rather be safe than sorry. I know the Hellcats and Ram trx have the mileage monitored by the ecm so for the first 500 miles, and it’s only allowed so much boost and has 500hp available. After 500 miles, track mode is able to be enabled and the other 200hp is available. Yes I know Dodge and Alfa are not the same but FCA is all under the same umbrella so I would just baby it.
@@hycastro I knew that, but I was trying to find out if there anything special I have to do other than babying( not redlining or crazy acceleration) thx.
Mine is a 2018 with 15k miles would you recommend getting this service done ?
Yes as it’s recommended by time. I’ve seen some at 10k miles but 5 years old that were almost shredded. It’s not always the case but I’ve seen it.
@@hycastro thanks. Are you in the Los Angeles area by any chance!
Was seriously thinking of buying this car until I happened upon this video. Trusting a Tech who could do this properly at a dealership would be my biggest worry especially putting it all back together properly. Insane almost laughable amount of Labor what was Alfa engineers thinking. Working on BMW's now looks like a walk in the park.
Ferrari engineers designed this car.
That's why I'm probably gonna do this job myself, wouldn't trust anybody else to do it.
Agreed, also if you can afford this car you probably got an extended warranty , or can afford services. I'm looking into buying one of these now. Only because it's absolutely disgusting for its price vs performance. Great video
Good Lord..no wonder my local Alfa dealership doesn't even want to perform this on my Giulia QV..
It’s honestly not that bad after the 3rd time of doing it. It’s very tedious work. You must be organized or else that car will show up again on a flatbed.
Time to search for a new dealership. They should WANT to do this job!
@@martynh5410 Agreed! That is like a barista who doesn't like making "fancy coffee drinks"!😂
I think I better start thinking about selling my 2019 Quadrifoglio… Don’t want to see that invoice!
Well if you do decide to do that, enjoy it while it lasts. Typically the repair for the drive belt is around $1500-$2500 depending on where you live.
@@hycastro
Thanks, it’s supposed at 100k miles, not sure and it only has 6k.
Blessings
Oh sh....10mm? No way I can find mine. Have to punt to the dealer because of that! :D
LMFAO
Exotic cars of San Francisco wanted to charge 5k to replace this belt. I get it's hard but not $5000 hard. other dealers quoted 2k.
Yeah too many dealers are trying to rip people off with the belt jobs and I hate it. We’ve been charging people the same price we’ve been charging since we got Alfa.
@@hycastro Thanks man. Where are you in the country? Do you or your shop want this job?
I’m in Burlingame CA. We will gladly take this all day everyday.
Find me on instagram @the.alfa.doctor
@@hycastro Thanks. Found you. I'll bring it in.
Have this. STUUUUUPID design. I’m not doing it as often as they want. My belt looked fine when they pulled it.
Cool
That’s gonna be 4K in labor and 20 on parts
Pretty much 🤣🤣🤣🤣
My dealer says 1.9k but after watching this I don't know if I would trust them not to break something else. I might do it myself
Jesus chrrrrrist
thanks. i hate it.
I wouldn't want to own that car. After all that you know one bolt didn't get installed or a pin connector bent or refrigerant contamination..
It’s definitely a challenge but I absolutely love it!
How often should this job be done?
4 years or 36k miles or 2 years 18k miles. It all depends on how the vehicle is driven and or it’s climate conditions.
@@hycastro Sooner in cold areas? I have my belt scheduled for next week. What else should i replace while in there?
Do the giulia QV start rough at times? Like I can feel the cylinders turning over at start but throwing no codes. Runs fine from what I can feel. Battery was at 12.41 amps. Hot day here in GA. Any thoughts? You are the guru here.