Toyota Landcruiser 1VD V8 diesel engine failure simple mistake very expensive OWNERS NEED TO WATCH
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- Toyota Landcruiser 1VD V8 diesel engine failure simple mistake very expensive OWNERS NEED TO WATCH, Please call Peter with any questions 0414 560771.
Happened to me servicing at home. Fortunately, I realized I’d thrown it out with the filter and bought a new one. No damage done when replaced. Filter still intact and firm. Very useful video.
People like you make owning a fourby so rewarding. Helping each other is the way it should be. 👌
Great work mate. Just some advice ...would be good if you had a lapel mic so the audio was better!! Cheers
Isn’t it crazy how the little inexpensive items do the most damage. Great video
This is great no BS info! cheers mate
Invaluable video , huge knowing this heads up to Engine Care....super important info
Stoked you do the 1vd now, touch wood it never happens to me but youll know if it does..your knowledge is worth the money.
Thank you. That very helpful. Something to keep a eye on.
Spin on oil filter, SOLVED
Great advice quick to the point clear and concise information many thanks
Great advice for people new this motor.
And it's so much of an improvement for the environment for the manufacturers to regress from a good spin on steel filter.....with built in pierced steel centre...
to a cheap and nasty plastic housing with a removable tube up the guts...and an engine rebuild.....
That's the toymota way
This style of oil filter is not new for Land Cruiser, the H engine of the late 70s early 80s had the centre oil passage bolt retainer to support the element - it never failed. What's wrong with design engineers of today? Land Cruisers had good diesel engines untill the 200 series. In this era new is not better, for example look at the 300 series.
Mercedes v6 n v8 been doing it for 30 years never fail….
"environmentally friendly" is a myth they peddle to the feeble minded
Nothing new under the sun. These paper type filters were the standard before the steel can type filters were devised, now reverting back to 1920's technology.
Great info Peter seen it myself a few times
Fantastic advice well done no BS just say how it is, this will save heaps of 200 diesel.
Thanks champ, love learning things like this👍👍
Thanks for the heads up on this one
thanks for sharing definitely a trap for those attempting servicing themselves…
Wow good video mate, not Toyota's best design that's for sure.
Thank you. Yet another production ‘cost saver’ that costs one hell of a lot more, down the track.
Anyone that doesn't notice that it's missing when changing the filter, shouldn't be servicing the vehicle.
Couldn’t agree more.
Stupid response Different vehicles have different designs. Easy mistake.
Great info mate. Cheers
Fantastic advice!
Thanks for the heads up, great bit of advice
On any car when replacing the filter, open the box and compare the new filter to the old one. If there are extra parts on or in the filter, they are not part of the filter and should be refitted to the engine with the new unit. To perform this properly you will need at least 1 and preferably 2 Mk1 eyeballs.
Great content. I would prefer to see some close up videos in your presentation. Keep up the good work.
Built in failure point. Well done, Toyota!
Nothing to do with Idiots doing the vehicle service.
No its not a failure point by the manufacturers its a failure by the incompetent service technicians.
Both comments are correct! Bad design and idiots servicing cars go hand in hand! :))
However, this is more lack of knowledge than being an idiot!
@@darrylmackie9184 Everything to do with the manufacturer not securing it properly, actually.
Typical Toyota and everyone else these days
Excellent and informative video bloke. Just as a suggestion you might think about a better microphone setup, the sound is clear but quiet..
Great stuff
WOW this is great info..!
Brilliant video Mate Yes happened to me and I have been servicing all kinds of machines for many years I’m wondering if it’s possible to take a class action against Toyota,as there’s no information included with the new filter warning or otherwise about such a possible trap ,and indeed it’s likely to increase as vehicles getting older I am a qualified diesel fitter
II love the wise acres commenting about lazy service personnel I expect those people never make a mistake
Yeah give them some curry, that is not on. Bloody ridiculous to think such a great lot of engineering gets let down by poor design of one component and customer relations did nothing. I just bought the new Stihl 500 I chainsaw the first EFI chainsaw ever produced and low and behold documented all over the internet by numerous owners that there's a air box design flaw that lets fine dust through the cam locking knob intoi filter and throttle body. After 2nd tank of gas I opened it and the dust is there !They should darn well rectify the issue but probably won't. And when you bring to dealers attention he says his go to line "we've sold hundreds of these and not one has come back" that doesn't mean that that dust isn't doing cylinder damage or halving the life of engine. But it get's you off his back !
My 98 Corolla has a spin on filter. Engineered better in those days.
Awesome video. Unbelievable c up from Toyota.
Good vid never heard d of that before
Does this engine has oversize piston ring… manufacture only has STD, and am looking for O.S good quality ring to file and fix. Can you advice one
2GR-FE Toyota engine has the same set up for the oil filter. I just can't understand how anyone could miss that inner sleeve and put it all back together without it! Obviously happens though!
Hi you say throw away housing every 100,k’s I see you have what looks to be a aluminium housing does that suit the 200 series diesel ? If yes where can I get one and how much?
Jeremy
Similar to the Nissan ZD30 CRD with it's Oil Filter Spigot in the Base of the Oil Filter Housing that get thrown out with the Used Oil Filter When Changed.
Not to mention the factory fitted faulty air filter dusting engines. Really are a let down of an engine by Toyota.
So the engine is a let down because the filter/box is a shit design? Hmm makes perfect sense
@@alexmann3145 The VDJ79R & 200 series air filter is let down by sexy fingers mechanics (Everything they touch, they fvck) who crush or fold over the rubber seal or don't seat & nest the airbox lid correctly. You can buy a simple glue in stainless steel thin plate that enlarges the sealing surface of the airbox seal & I rubber grease the seal & run a Donaldson cyclonic snorkel head. I didn't have any dust bypass issues before & certainly no issues now with the standard airbox on my VDJ79R but you need to know what your doing & have an understanding of how it needs to be & how to get it like it needs to be.
@@alexmann3145 . If they can't get the filter box right, then what else is wrong.
Cheers mate
Is there an aftermarket redesign alternative?
D4D Toyota engines are amongst the most reliable and durable engines in the passenger vehicle world I can only imagine problems from mistakes and lack of servicing because my 23 year old corrola only broke down once because of a bad starter motor
Not true
Isuzu 4jj1 far more reliable
Great video. Poor audio.
Hi great story, would you recommend replacing the plastic oil filter housing with a diecast housing or they much of a muchness.
Mercedes been using plastic for 30 years never fail just typical Toyota saving 10 cents a car using substandard plastic nothing new
They're the same, once the spout is not returned to the filter cap it will end the same.
Hi sir , I have Toyota 100series TD 4.2, my 100 series body weight is much more then the Japanese model Toyota 100 series , the engine does not handle the body weight after 2 year the engine get blow , so can 1vd.Ftv engine comes in my 100series TD UK model or any good idea. Please let me now what to do
Do you see many failures due to over tuning for more power.
Like more fuel, high boost and incorrect air fuel ratio in this motor or any others
It’s a wonder that someone hasn’t come up with a aluminium cnc replacement part for this issue or maybe can’t be done, so this can’t happen🤷
How much for a new engine mate mines done over 460,000kms and runs well
So many people asking about the 70 series with the metal housing, would it have the same issue? but you don't respond. We support your channel & would appreciate the occasional answer to questions about the subject you are discussing. Would help alot of dedicated viewers.
Hi, I have seen this happen with both plastic and alloy filter caps. Thank
@@enginecare1417 Thanks very much for the reply & the video.
I run them out to over 400k no issues (70 series)
Toyota what a feeling 👎🏼over price and overrated thank you for the video .
Just happened to me as well - total engine rebuild $42,000!!!
The audio is too quiet to make the video worthwhile. Audios more important than video
Is it true that the 'VD' in 1VD-FTV stands for venereal disease?
Does this engine have a filter bypass system for when the filter is blocked?
Obviously not, hence the warning, don't let this happen or engine failure will occur. You must have been that annoying kid at school who would keep asking the same question because you were not paying attention. If it had a bypass engine failure would not occur.
Apparently not. Once the filter is squeezed, there's no other passages for oil going to the pump.
Probably not they like you to do further damage replacement is their plan.
do you rebuild vdjs v8s I'd be interested in seeing video on it
Drive them stuff em and throw em away everything seems to be like that these days.
European makes have this design. You get a low oil pressure code. Unsure and bad if Toyota doesn't give a warning of low oil pressure code. If you are unsure check the stout before installing yourself or after a mechanic does it. Can't go wrong if you check it yourself and save you a headache.
easy solution: in the center of the cap, find the flange that the tube bayonnettes to, then drill a hole to fit a screw into (hex/torqs), LOCTITE it in; then that thing is NOT coming off unless you want it to!
What a simple little thing that could be a huge mistake. Wow
Fuel economy is the major problem.
Genius Toyota engineering, just like their air boxes, dpfs (hilux) etc, and all that for a 4.5L V8 diesel that makes lees hp then most modern 2Ls. Not to speak of the cutting edge technology, when you have 15 yr model cycles! People have rocks in their heads, ... I got a V8 mate! But hey, good on you for capitalizing on these muppets, probably own your house outright and a couple more every year. Oil filter change, yes sir, that'll be 25k! Nobody has stupid money like a 79/200 owners. Might change profession!
And the payload of a shopping trolley. Make sure you have a good crap before getting in or you will be overloaded .
Where can I buy it?
I see this as a design fault of Toyota.
Go back to the 6 cylinder diesel.
I've got a 200 series landcruiser and nice to know this, but if this is a common issue why has no-one made a modified oil filter cap so the metal sleeve doesn't come out
It's not a common issue so a new filter case design is not needed. Keeping idiots who don't know what they are doing away from your filter oil case is the best prevention.
@@dustyfarmer So Dusty am I who has been building and repairing engines transmissions fuel pumps etc for over 50 years to classify my self an Idiot or is Toyota design engineering the idiot Sir I rest my case
Can you buy one that doesn’t come off
Hey mate does it happen in the 70 series as well? The 200 series have a plastic cover instead of metal on the 70s don’t they? I wondered if that made a difference?
Thanks
Same thing mate
cast alloy on 70 but same principle , design.
Same design, it happened too in the 70 series
Makes no difference what "material" the cap is made of as the Housings are all the same!
Thought about buying anew cruiser turned by people s comment s on fault s mostly fuel consumption. But they also say they break down a lot come on Toyota. Ford ranger seems to be out in front they say .
Honestly I'm surprised its only $2k for the new crank. Toyotas damn well should be reliable, for how expensive they are to fix when they do break.
Lazy servicing, takes no time at all to notice it just isn't there when fitting a new filter.
If you cant change a oil filter properly, then you probably got your training from Woolworths….
Remember when toyota meant unbreakable
Its never meant that, like ever. Ask anyone who has repaired them.
It's not a Hilux....
Its breaking due to human error.
Hilux...
When companies are in a massive rush to get products into market fast they will shape and slap together anything from wherever they can lay hands on. Case-IH did shit like this in my the late 1980's. They got parts from the old past models parts bin then just made a different shape bonnet etc then called it a new model.
compromised a good engine to save a few cents well done toyota.
DOESN'T IT HAVE AN OIL PRESSURE WARNING LAMP AND OR GUAGE?
That’s why you buy a Great Wall they have normal blowin up before a oil filter change is needed😳👀😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Har har har.
ok.
how can I get the receipe
Oh what a feeling.
Im not a fan of any of the landcruiser v8 engines, i like the straight six cylinder deisel engines. They are bullet proof,and are good for 800,000 ks plus before a rebuild is required if they are looked after.
yes that is where Landover lost their way with v6, I was a field serviceman with Cummins, I could take a turbo from a KW rebuild and refit in 5 hours, on my Disco, I cannot even see the turbo
Why do we need to know that here ???
H2
Toyota built its reliability rep on the old six
Not bullet proof entirely but better than the V8 especially if you want to work on one eg to replace the starter or crap located V8 alternator. The FTE motor is best left STD as over boosting will result in failures...tho not uncommon in other engines also..like the TD42 Nissan.
Wouldn't it throw, a low oil pressure light on the dash?
By the time the light comes on you're engine is fucked anyway.
Generally too late by then.
That light means your engine is already shagged.
If it's like my land rover, the pressure sensor is upstream of the filter, so there would be an increase in pressure. Glad I installed a gauge in place of the warning light. Good to know if it's both low or high.
Yes I have scan gauge
Hello there, have you ever heard of a 1vd-ftv that turns on, but refuses to accelerate? My mechanic is trying everything and nothing works... The engine simply won't accelerate
MAP sensor, check the wires from MAP
Is it the same on the 79 and 76/78 single turbo motors?
The 1VD V8 is the clue here.
people just park them in long grass and burn them. Happens all the time. when dealers quote out of warranty repairs like a leaking main seal for 9k, its easier to burn them.
So is dusting real or is this the real culprit all along.
there are 2 very different problems. Dusting effects the piston rings & bores, this problem destroys crank , rods & bearings.
Both
Can they be converted to a spin on filter?
No, & no need to.
Well that’s a serious design fail!
How much is it too rebuild a engine out of a 200 series 2013 that’s not stuffed just a lot of kms
I hope you get an answer to this. The toyota tax will be enormous
As a wealthy Landcruiser owner says about the V8 diesels,,,, you trade them in before the warranty runs out. And send themto the Toymota dealer to get them serviced. This a bloke who restores classic cars as well as building race cars/ race engines.
I would like to step from my 100 to a 200. But the engines scares me as I have seen them broken and also ofcourse they are noisier [but torqier] than the V8 petrol. Dont tell me more economical as yes they use a bit less fuel but the cost of said nunga nunga lotion is far more expensive.
The V8 in the 79 series has hardly any more torque or power than the 1HDFTE in the old 79 series. With the wider front track on the V8 79s what was Toyota thinking there? I service my 1HD myself, always have done, wouldn’t let a dealer near it. No problem with the oil filter either.
Just before I left my job at Toyota, I left the centres out of 4 Landcruiser oil filters. LOL.. good luck to them!
That’s nothing to be proud of. Is your name Richard Cranium?
Another Toyota design fault. I have had quite a few Toyota's and most have really bad design faults. Also you always keep hearing Toyotas are unbreakable, super reliable which most are, but when you get caught out it leaves a sour taste in your mouth.
I went a completely different route and now have a Jeep Grand Cherokee V6 diesel and boy this has been far more reliable than any of the Toyota's I have ever owned.
But boy did I get some crap from all my Toyota and Nissan friends, also the money I saved on the purchase price was fantastic.
I think it is a design flaw by Toyota...There just should NOT be ANY chance of this happening...Replacing an oil filter should be full proof.
OOOHHH..... HOW I LOVE MY 1HZ😂😂😂♥️
Toyota breaking down that's almost unheard off.
My mate was told about this issue by the local Toyota dealer ahead of an interstate trip..in case he needed a service elsewhere. For the extended warranty they told him not to drive in dusty conditions or through water because of the filter issue and low alternator and to watch out for excessive oil consumption. The 200s has cost him we over 100k Inc 10k on suspension mods. He was too frightened to take it to Fraser. Oh what a feeling..
Mate at least the dealer actually told him some useful info that might just save him from dropping even more coin on it. Most wouldn't
Nice story, mate... But you left the most important part out, you forgot to put "Once upon a time" at the start.
Why can’t you regrind crank?
Itll never be the same, could be warped a little bit from heat, and keeping it standard size is better for multiple reasons
As in heat from the bearing spinning on it or the bearing welding itself to the crank
Or send it to Pakistan? 🤔
Too much heat in the crank from spun bearings, you’ll see the blue metal colour. After that much heat it is permanently weakened.
Even the fj has to many small faults.
Great ‘To The Point’ video. I’m still amazed how Toyota has such a dedicated consumer following. With the many design flaws and significant engine faults, coupled with very basic cabin features, they seem to be an overpriced yet poor standard vehicle. As a previous manager of a workforce, I bought several Cruisers and was disappointed with the regular issues we had.
Still best of a bad bunch on the whole
Failures like this in Toyotas are seen by owners as a badge of honour..just like paying too much in the first place and then spending tons of money modifying suspension etc etc. Imagine if this was a Jeeo or a LR! Amazing that Toyota still gets away with such design flaws.
1VD V8 engines are the MOST USELESS Land Cruiser engines of all time!
Anyone that know anything about engines absolutely HATES THEM!
Add in the disgraceful 2.8 DPF issues and 2 billion dollar class action.
I don’t need to worry because I don’t buy rubbish!!
Part of the last 12 years of spiralling Toyota substandard manufacturing. Their reputation for reliability finished in 2010.
So all to do with blind mechanics.
O what a feeling 😂
Oh what a feeling, my wallet!