USED Toyota LandCruiser 200 Series - What goes wrong and should you buy one?
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In Australia, few cars are as popular as the Toyota LandCruiser 200 Series. Hauling family, towing, touring, off-roading - whatever the challenge, the 200 Series can do it all. Now with the release of the 300 Series a couple of years ago, a used 200 Series might be a great option. But what should you be on the lookout for? In this video, we’ll take you through everything you need to know if you’re in the market for one - what they cost, what they’re like to own and importantly, what goes wrong with them.
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00:00 - Intro
00:22 - Exterior
07:07 - Interior
12:22 - Safety
15:31 - What's it like to drive?
18:03 - Mechanical issues
24:38 - Should you buy it?
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Miss the intros you'd give on the cars - with the prices and different specs. Please bring them back!
Ikr
You have to get the rubbish cheat sheet. I stopped watching this show as it's always the same. I could tell you what happens next and what they are going to say. Change it up a bit.
Yes do this please. Dont change the setup if you want to retain audience
I don’t mind a changing format, although I don’t like the clickbaity edit at the very start
“I can’t tell you because I am not a qualified mechanic…” very iconic quote.
They should make this a merch quote too
So many sellers on the 2nd hand market taking the piss on price.
no there not haven't you heard of the Toyota tax
What's that @@robertceroli3512
Buyers dictate the sale price not sellers
Yeah I've always liked the look of them but have never actually enquired about one or looked at one to buy just because they seem way-way too expensive. Some asking prices, for clearly enthusiastically used examples, just evoke a natural laughing instinct.
Prices are ridiculous, however they sell for those prices....... So I guess they're not that ridiculous! Buyers dictate sale prices!
This is easily my favorite automotive review channel. It never goes stale and i love the sense of humor in the delivery.
If they came in manual. We would have one.
As a result we have held onto our immaculate 100 series GXL TD manual.
It’s reliability,power, comfort, decent off road ability, on road ride and handling, incredibly good fuel economy and relative cheapness of ownership makes us happy to keep her.
410000 careful km with narry a problem 3 kids raised in her. A wonderful car. Now it’s just the 2 of us she is our frequent holiday accomodation. Thank you Toyota for building us a wonderful car.
Manual is worse for offroad... Auto is infinitely easier to live with.
You did well.
I'm 100% sure these 200 series came with a manual transmission...if you got the 4.0 V6 petrol engine in the first few years. So you're basically saying that the ones you got in your country didn't come with that manual transmission, or your country didn't get that engine.
@@eyecontrol4900 not really.... I've got an old turbo diesel Hilux in manual and I've had HJ61s in manual, and it feels right in that setup because of the age and how agricultural they are...but in a plush 200 series that cost $100k, hell no.
are you 95 years old?? a manual hahahahahahahahaha
i prefer the older sequence of videos. Leaving the "what goes wrong" till later
He clearly had a motive in the video and hates the 200 series as a vehicle that’s why
@@Andrew-oc4jwfound the 200 series owner…
@@Andrew-oc4jwhe’s done it in the last few videos hahah not 200 series specific
I've been waiting and requesting for this video for a million years ... thank you!!!
Holy shit this bull bar is the most hideous thing I’ve seen in a long time
I have over 350k on the clock on mine and it still doesn't have any rattles on the inside. I love it.
I see many comments saying the older format of the video are more favorable. I honestly agree. The way it just tells us what it is, variations, tech, safety, driving impressions & performance, what goes wrong (exterior->interior->mechanical), verdict.
It was just easier to watch and I find myself come back again and again just to remember the info. in my head. (Even tho some of the cars in this channel are never in my considerations). I won't quit watching the channel if they keep it the current way but like the cars, the old one seems to be better than the new ones.
Just remember not everything needs to be "improved" and the best car review videos are the ones that are funny and hilarious in the presentation, but not the format of the video.
Your target audiences are adults who are looking for real cars but not hotwheels after all.
However, just want to say really appreciate the effort thrown into these videos and the advertisements are actually helpful ones rather than some VPN as you mentioned in the best/worse car of the year video. Most channels don't care and just put any advertisements they can get.
Honestly speaking i have realised with watching this channel & reviews on many cars i like.there's no perfect car,the ones that are exciting are probably gonna cost you with maintenance or aren't reliable and then the boring,fall asleep while driving ones are reliable & easier to maintain.😐Just get what you love,learn more about it's issues from such awesome channels as redriven (preventative maintenance etc) then enjoy your car man.Life on this earth is too short for a boring car
This guy gets it.
Totally agree, thats what I tell my "Toyota only" dad all the time, Id much rather my more interesting, fun and better equipped (if less reliable) euro car.
@@joelcarterramadge183yep
Just saw a 2017 VX with no extras and 35K on the odometer for sale near me for 130K!! Like WTF...who they hell would pay anywhere near that for one of these is absolutely nuts.
When I first read that I saw $35k with only 130k on the odometer and I was thinking “what’s this guys problem, that’s a steal!” 😂
@@izzy031096 Haha...yeah I would of snapped that up in an instant!
Here's what goes wrong with them and what you need to modify. All credit to "Top 5 Toyota Landcruiser Design Failures" by Jaffa Adventures. Its worth a watch. But this is what he talks about: there are design faults from factory that you need to fix straight away. take the transmission for example. it stays in 5th gear and wont go into 6th! this is a common problem. when doing 100 on a dead flat road you're lucky if it goes into 6th. the torque converter slips. holding 5th gear creates alot of heat in the gearbox which burns your oil and leads to premature wear if not changed more regularly. especially if you towing. (it is great to hear your new car has had this upgraded with a torque lock up kit! you have fixed the most important issue! On-top of this though the biggest red flag from factory is the airbox! it doesnt even seal properly. its a known problem at taking in dust. people have had dust in their engines and had to get complete engine rebuilds. the seal and paper filters let it down at failing to stop dust getting in.
Also...the top mount intercooler is inefficient and should of gotten the 79 series scoop to help airflow instead. a great mod some do to their 200 is to change to that hood scoop.
smack a bullbar, winch and spotties on the front in the wrong placement areas and the standard intake is no where near efficient from the front at cooling the top mount.
Adam, Louis here from STA FM, Inverell: it's 4x4 country up here! Just wondering if you and Jim are up for an on-air interview on my show? Let me know!
Love your reveiws. I wish there were more mechanics like Jim. I am lucky to have a good one. Aussi Les
I've had my 2020 gxl from new. 51k so far and no issues at all. It's had an engine tune, trans remap, etc, at 3k.
It's a great tough vehicle
Finally! Good on you guys
About time for this one!
Woohoo! Been waiting for this one 🤩
Another thing to look for is water in the carpets, it's usually a sign of blocked sunroof drains which can cause corroded junction boxes in both A pillars or damaged modules that are near those junction boxes.
This has to be one of the longest what goes wrong mechanically segment
For a Toyota certainly. I'm sure the Range Rovers was far longer.
Ford Everest wins that.
I thought you was taking the piss with that comment but shit a brick, it servicing schedule is the same as the Space Shuttle.
All journalists want to compare a LC to a RR, two completely different buying dynamics for two completely use of the vehicle.
So you haven’t watched the CRAPTIVA video
@@AWMJoeyjoejoe it was :)
Friend has one, has over 850k kms and still going strong.
Hi from South Carolina and the USA. The 200 series is that Lionel Messi of SUVs. It’s just the greatest car ever made. There is no other SUV that comes close. In the states there are 100 grand but they last for 25 years. It’s the most iconic legendary SUV in the world and in the United States. Nobody knows what it is. It’s a riot.
As a Northern European when I think of Australians and their cars a white Landcruiser always shouts OZ to me. We have manual Transmission Landcruiser's here in Northern Europe I think that's probably because fuel pricing here is far higher than in OZ they are very popular here particularly above the arctic circle because they start with little trouble in double digit sub zero temps.
100% on the self confidence one, gold!
One of the best cars on the road. Sold them for 3 years. Didn't have 1 come back with an issue. What they lack in refinement, they make up for with capability and dependability.
love your content watching from Kenya..please redriven review lx450d
the value of my 2011 200 series nearly doubled after I bought it here in NZ, Toyota activly trying to buy them back for customers, only issue I have had with mine was cracked rad top tank, love it!
I have a couple of cars i would love you to review, a 2010 petrol Prado Kakadu 175,000k and a 2002 Lexus SC430 convertible 110,000k both cars are in great condition, trouble is l am 6 hours from Sydney. I love your reviews.
I had 3x 200’s over 10 years. I became aware of all the problems but experienced very few.
Nice bit of Woollarding during the safety segment there Adam.
My brother has one, been everywhere with it towing a house behind him, all good. He always says to me that I should sell my Range Rover as I hardly drive it, well I do when its running, but then tomorrow arrives.
Did I miss the running costs/consumption section? Been looking forward to it.
Y62 would be sick but also do a tb 48 patrol
I bought a 100 series in Lexus trim in 1998 with 170k on the clock. It is now 345k, with no sign of wear and minimal maintenance. It's the only truck I couldn't break.
When I bought it, the dealer told me not to repeat his mistake and buy the 200 series (my 100 was his personal vehicle, which he "upgraded").
Steering wheels were replaced by the manufacturer even though some vehicles were out of warranty.Better storage in front seat area would be good.Door pockets are small.
hahah love the bushranger ballad 😂
I like how you rhymed side with side in your ballad.
I think you guys have just made a lot of people happy and a lot very angry lol.
I disagree with you Adam that the 200 is worse looking than a Land Rover but as you always say it's ok to be wrong 😂.
When you said the GX is the workhorse of the line or miner & Taliban spec does that mean GX stands for guns and excavation? Lol
The bush ballad would've been more convincing if you had been wearing boots instead of sneakers lol.
Did we just hear Hullsy say that a way of sorting a problem is to do a naught? 🤔 I guess we must of misheard what he was saying 😂.
Great job guys as always and as always keep up the good work and look forward to next week's videos as per usual 👍.
Channeling Russell Coight. Good work.
Don't they have a manufating defect that causes excessive fuel loss through the exhaust system?
😂😂😂nice
😅😅😅😅😅🎉❤
Gold 🔥. Yes, and most are bought to tackle the harsh terrain of the school run.
Please do the landcruiser cygnus (Lx470).... many say it rivals the early 200 series in many aspects
@REDRIVEN Do you guys have the Chevrolet Avalanche "pickup"? I'd love to see you review one. They seem very undervalued here in Germany.
@Redriven does this apply to the Lexus LX of the same generation or is it different enough for its own video?
Come on Mate you are a very good Mechanic. A secondary 5 or 2 Micron Fuel Filter makes a MASSIVE difference on longevity of the Pump & Injectors
Shit to drive, crazy fuel consumption,owner I know done one of the turbos on the V8 diesel @ 130,000 km, Toyota quoted him 20k to fix!! Oh what a feeling lol.
Jeez jim had a fair bit to explain and talk about in this video which is pretty unusual 😅
Fantastic vehicle for towing and that's why I own one. I bought a 2021 GX new with 10 years Toyota warranty and I will trade/sell it before that runs out. The VX is the model to go for but I couldn't find a new one for sale in 2021 so I opted for the GX. Terrible headlights in fact they are dangerous, the GPS is best described as being hopeless, the stereo system is the worst in any car I have owned, no aircon in the back seat area means having to turn the fan to a higher setting in the front and no proximity cameras at all make parking in shopping centres a nightmare. I tried a Nissan Y62 but not enough legroom in the front for me which is a shame because they were so much cheaper at the time ($25K). If I didn't own a caravan I would buy a Prado.
Lexus LX570 interiors are nicer. Seats are also more supportive (driver's has thigh support). On the used market, here in the USA, LX570's go about $10,000 USD LESS than LC200 (Toyota tax). I took my LX570 to Moab, Utah and rocked all the trails Jeeps and Broncos were on. Only mods I did were LC200 wheels and Bridgestone KO2s. LX has height adjustable suspension so I could raise up when needed.
My dad has one and they are a fantastic tow vehicle, especially with the transmission lock mod. But if you aren't towing heavy loads, then there are way better choices out there IMO.
Hehe, nah, I love surprising people while towing my camper trailer.......they are like: 'This bloke will die on the hills....' yeah, nah.
Wow, all those mechanical problems makes me want to stay with Mitsubishi Triton. According to Jim Hull, not much goes wrong with them. I have one and it's true for me too.
I'm doing more research for a tow vehicle. Maybe the brand new one will be good.
Please note that although the diesel was available for the whole world, North America only got the gas engines and although thirsty, just as bulletproof. We miss the 300 series in America
We only get parallel import over here and it cost around half a million while at the same time the average salary is 2.5k. I hate how skewed the pricing of cars where I'm from
For the non-hardcore off-roaders, there is GREAT value to be found in LEXUS LX used market.
For some reason, folk don't seem to understand the quality that Lexus adds to the experience.
Love mine and saved a fortune compared to the stupidly overpriced 200s. Do thousands of km on dirt and it's so damn comfortable.
Shhhhh!!!!!!
@@tcmx712 you're right, I should sshhh...
Those that know, know
They are ugly though......
The main reason would be because is was offered mostly as a petrol v8 only...
@@gixxr88it has the same v8 diesel in australia and most right hand drive countries.
Love me a land Cruiser. But a decent 100 would be preferable.
Repairs are expensive because all parts are over built. Aftermarket parts are almost never as good as toyota ones.
Great car, but people do romanticise it too much.
better still a good 105
Have you driven both side by side? Like night and day the 200 is a far better vehicle. Unless you want live axles, then you can't compare as they are a different thing.
@@MichaelOsseweyeijer Absolutely, I sold my 105 and bought a new 200 series. It was the worst decision of my life. I had 4 years of constant issues with the 200 series. It was by far the most unreliable vehicle I have ever owned. Toyota were also hopeless and didn't want to cover warranty issues. I will never buy another new Toyota now based on my experience.
Can you please make a video about the g class w463 ?!
The vacuum pump (that Jim mentioned) does not provide vacuum for the brakes. It provides vacuum for the active engine mounts.
I was wondering about that, mine has electric/hydro assist brakes.
Don’t believe those who say the KDSS is essential or even that it makes that much of a difference. I have 2020 GXL and a friend has a 2018 Sahara. They both have the same suspension upgrades and I think the difference in the handling is minor at best. The lack of KDSS is one of the reasons I chose the GXL over a VX. I valued the simplicity and reliability of the normal anti roll bars.
Say nothing if it’s not good 😂 great review as always.
When will you do a review of a 120 prado?
RUST! Yes there's plenty out there with rust. Most owners that go fourby driving don't clean underneath but the rust underneath is not the worst of the rust problems. At my mates smash repairs, these are their bread & butter jobs. Rust happens on the turret (roof), tailgate & where the tailgate sits, rear side windows & worst of all, the front windscreen and A pillar. These are not easy jobs to repair as trim has to come out & that takes time to remove. If your buying one, check these areas very closely if they have been repaired & find out if it was done in the backyard or a proper repair shop. A repair shop will use metal & weld it whereas the backyarders will use bog. Underneath the chassis mainly get surface rust but I've seen some bad ones so make sure the chassis has been repaired properly. Use a good brand of underbody rust protector.
A funny story that happened a couple of years ago when a customer bought a 200 series cheap. Underneath was all fine but there was rust around the windscreen, A pillar & turret. He wanted it repaired & a full body respray. He wanted it in a weeks time so it was all hands on deck. When it was finished, it was like it came from the showroom floor. The customer paid & went on his way. A week later the customer came back. The 200 series had scratches all over it & wanted repaired under warranty. We found out he took it off road & of course twigs, branches & rocks scratched the crap out of it. When we told him that it can't be done as it was used off road, he got angry & we told him & it was even on the invoice that the paint warranty would be void if the vehicle was taken off road. We gave it a buff (we didn't have to but it only helped a bit) but he also had some panel damage due to his off road excursion.
If you're buying one, take your time & go over it carefully before outlaying any cash!
Thank you.
Interior Hardly changed since the late 90s
Are there less mechanical issues with the petrol?
Where did the slap bass go? Redriven signature sound has gone!!
Toyota Landcruiser 200 owners groups… “you guys are awesome”. Tesla owners groups… “you guys are assholes”.
Not if you start having issues and being honest about the unreliability of the new landcruisers. You get attacked and not supported. I always had Landcruisers and sold my reliable 105 series for a new 200 series which gave me 4 years of constant issues till I sold it and moved on.
As I'm approaching my 40th I'm starting to seriously consider these for some reason. Owning sports cars are getting less appealing.
40th girlfriend
40th car or
40th birthday
???
@@mrgarrison3516 40th birthday hahahah. Imagine 40th girlfriend though, that's an expensive habit.
Bring back the old video sequence guys. New format feels incomplete.
Should be wearing kt 26s instead of those vans kicks in the aussie safety breakdown
I love this channel
I prefer the older models myself, but I'd also rather a 90s 3 door Rav 4 with a lift kit & skid plates.
6:15 if toyota was the first to released the crawl control in 2008. Why did the 2005 discovery 3 have it🤔🤔
I was always told, if you want to drive into central Queensland use a rangerover, if you want to drive back from there get a landrover. good video again guys.
Ummm I don’t think that’s how it goes. You’d be stuck either way!
Did you just forget your phone in the rear armrest? 😅
Do they come with an akubra?
Toyotas are not indestructible, to get 400000+km out them requires lots of maintenance/money. All Toyota diesels require new injectors at some time, 200 - 300k km. In February my mate spent $9500 for new injectors, inlet manifold decarb, (Prado $5-6k). Personally, two weeks ago $5300 for new upper control arms and new rubbers throughout the suspension plus a full service. The six speed gearbox shuffles around locking up, unlocking, shifting between 5th and 6th all the frigging time. Torque converter lockup kit works well, however, it will set you back $2200. (In my opinion don't let them remap the gearbox). For an engineer approved suspension upgrade for the overweight caravan will set you back $5k. Great trucks, excellent for pulling the van: yep they drive like a truck. Mine sits around for holidays and trips and yes, pulling 3 tons of van most of the time I drive arrive around Sydney in a Mazda. Prices for them are coming down.
the 200 series uses more fuel towing than a v8 patrol--- i know as i have both
If you need one it’s a good Truck
But otherwise a waste of a lot of money
Met a grey nomad last year, doing a lap in his 200 series diesel with van in tow.
During his trip his engine died due to the poorly designed airbox and dusting.
New long motor from Toyota + install cost him $40k! 😲😲😲
How can such an expensive vehicle, with such a perceived reputation for quality, suffer these kind of issues..... Another under-cooked design from Toyota.
Toyota should be redesigning and retrofitting improved airboxes into all of these vehicles.
But they won't. And people still line up to buy these things at ridiculous prices...... 🤦♂️
Soccer mum car at its best for tarmac!
If you want to take off road load up and have mods to make it suitable as it is lacking just so much !
As someone who sold their 200 series and upgraded to a new Y62.. I can say the 200 series is so overrated and overpriced it’s laughable.
i have both and i agree
Funny your comment about Chris Hemsworth…he actually drives a black 200 series. See him driving around in it every now and then
Hey @redriven it would be awesome to see you guys review a 350z. I've been seeing heaps of them recently some good, clean examples and as a z owner myself it would be awesome to see this review happen
Was there any mention of the 5th and 6th gear unable to lock in a gear towing issue that this car has that it is known for?
That's not an issue, it's a way of protecting 5th and 6th gears.
Pretty much all transmissions in most cars, anything over 4th gear is an overdrive. Being an overdrive, it overloads the transmission components and cal lead to over heating and/or failure.
Not so common these days, but once apon a time was a critical issue.
15:09 OH BEHAVE!!! 😂
The edit gave me a fright when I thought you have slammed your phone into the centre armrest 😅
In the US, all we got are gassers. The diesels were never sold in the USA. The 200 series Land Cruiser is not that common in the USA.
Best car ever!!
I’d get a base 300 series with a better set of tires.
Men of culture, let's go build a shed. Offroadability is a thing.
Lol
Just remember because of it's vanilla styling, non car people won't have a clue how much you paid for it. A 200 looks like every other 'white 4wd'. A 100 series and 300 series look very similar apart from the headlights.
It doesn't look much different from my 99 105 model quite frankly.
Indeed, but pull up at the campsite and everyone knows!
With most modern cars even the best (80's and 90's) with no product obsolescence there is a list of things that go wrong.
However, the list is far shorter than that of cars that came before or after them.
The problem is with the people. They have lost the ability to want to repair, learn to repair, invest on tools to repair and the tolerance to have repair items in their home.
With today's convenient, super clean, super shiny and zero tolerance to used items, these vehicles will be doomed.
Even for the Gen X'ers (probably the last generation to have the will and ability to repair) these will be a greater struggle than 80's 90's cars which already have computers (already without the designed barriers to repair, lock outs and special tools etc).
So. Can anyone tell me a genuine reason to own one of these? I think I’ve heard every “reason”, so I’ll give you bonus points if you can give me a new one. The only reason I think anyone should buy one of these monstrosities, is literally if they personally like it more than every other option.
The only good thing about a 200, is replace all the parts with aftermarket gear. 😂
Some Toyota's actually hv plenty of issues. Their claimed dependability is often overblown.
Mazda's, Honda's are often better, long term..
There is another class action just kicked off against Toyota Australia, they lost the previous class action with the hilux issues
If you get a diesel engine, even Hondas and Mazdas (especially Mazda) will have issues. Stick to their petrol engines and you'll be fine. Thankfully in my part of the world we don't do diesel engines in SUVs and small cars.
@@damilolaakanniMazda diesel, yeah they’re crap and always have been. Luckily their new ute is Isuzu based because the 2.2 Mazda6/CX5 diesel is junk.
The diesels that Honda do are actually pretty good.
Haha. Last time I saw him Hemsworth was driving a dual cab 79.
Yes, the Range Rover may look nicer from a design perspective but how about when you are stuck on the side of the road waiting for that tow truck 😂.
Have you told Chris how you feel about him? Has he called you back? Sometimes you need to focus on yourself and find inner happiness first before others will be attracted to an unemployed bold subjective researcher
Isuzu M-UX 2018 please
Love listening to toyota owners talk about the reliability of their hilux that has almost no toyota parts left on it...