1:59 Slower charging speed does not decrease battery health. It's actually much better for it than charging the battery faster. It's just not as nice for having a charged battery on a time limit, though.
Josh is completely right, slower charging is better (slow=less heat=better). Also the charger brand doesn't really matter as the charge CONTROLLER is in the MacBook. Unfortunately another videos about batteries full of misunderstandings. :/
@@valynor Charger brand does make difference, I have used cheap iPhone chargers which would glitch the phone while plugged in, the screen would become unresponsive, charge controller in the iPhone did not do anything. Some cheap chargers should not be used
@@rumbecker5085 well yes but this is by definition a defective charger. It doesn't have to be an Apple charger, e.g. Anker is perfectly fine at a much lower price.
@@valynor Correct so brand does matter, Anker charger are fantastic many other good brands out there but the BRAND DOE matter. Cheap Chinese and other knock offs are garbage, it's very important to get a good brand. As for OEM, there is no way I would pay for an OEM Apple charger
TL:DW with corrections 1. Charge the battery with a slower charger, max 100W (they charge at 80W speeds) 2. Keep the battery between 20-80% (though I've found it to be pretty okay to do 10-90%) 3. If you do heavy tasks that will pull 60-70W consistently, plug in the laptop. 4. Don't keep the laptop plugged in at 100% (pretty obvious)
I thought that when you reach 100%, the MacBook system will automatically switch to the plug input and so it’s doesn’t matter if you keep it plugged, it might even be better
@@davidcolti9979 I've heard really conflicting things about point four. Some experts say don't keep it plugged in at 100% and others say it doesn't matter and Mac will automatically optimize the charge. Which is itttttt lol
Actually it’s pretty bad to let the battery charged at 100% all the time because it strains the cell. A cell in a battery need to not be overly discharged or maintained at peak voltage. In order to not put strain in your battery you need to maintain the cell to a more reasonable voltage an thus maintaining the battery at 60 to 70 % Charge when you a constantly plugged in. You need to do a cycle from time to time to reset the charge controler
MBA M1 over here, I had it like 19 months ago. First ten months used it as "regular" laptop, then last eight / nine months I used it always plugged in since I do some streaming, video editing and such and external monitor. I unplug it when I'm done and every now and then I let it discharge to 20%. Right now I'm at 98% BH and 88 cycles, and it gives me nearly 15 hours of usage on battery alone. Just don't let it drain completely and don't be afraid to plug it in if you're going to do heavy tasks.
How often do you discharge it to 20%? I've been using mine for almost 9 months now with 32cc and 97% batt health. Most of the time it's plugged in when I'm using it. I was bit shocked when I lost 3% batt health (100-97) real quick in just a month. I still had it at 100% batt health just a month ago then boom 97% real quick. But it was on my 8 month of using it (almost always plugged in) that it started decreasing to 97%. Hope you can help me on this one.
@@johnlexterrosales143tbh I rarely let it go beyond 20%. Most of the time I plug it between 20% and 80%. The only cases where I let it charge beyond 80 is when I'm performing heavy tasks such editing audio or video. As for today, my MBA M1 base model is currently at 96% and 128 cycles, with a normal battery condition. Is worth metioning that I'm using it as a regular laptop since I have other laptops to perform edition and such. I don't know how old is your MB, but maybe the battery percentage dropped all at once? Mine was slowly decreasing but I know cases where that drops suddenly after a year or so.
indeed, that’s the problem with newer devices & chargers, and the main reason the 12 and 13 iPhone series lose 3 to 4 battery health percentage in less than a year
@@emirmontazeri No, there’s something else at work. I have an iPhone 13, and only charge using an old 5W brick, with optimised charging, and have lost 4% health over nine or ten months.
@@nanolog522 I believe the main factor is heat (besides battery cycle, obv). Maybe your case didn’t let the phone to stay cool during charging, or you used it while charging. Fun fact I actually commented something like this under another video that said turn off optimization as it could damage the battery (still have mine on however), I will link it for you in next comment. Also, I do not think after 10 months, that’s too bad of decrease, just saying my opinion not experience.
I have the iPhone 11 pro max since it came out and my battery 🔋 health is on 95%, the way I charge it : I always plug it in around 8pm and charge only to 98%. I never let it on the charger over night because with my previous iphones I ruined my batteries leaving them plugged in all the time.
A little something for y'all- there's 86 cycle counts at the moment and my battery capacity is at 94%. I accidentally let it drain to complete 0% about 6 times as well since I have the tendency to pass out when overworked still having programs, renders, etc. which drains down the battery. Everytime that happened I always saw a deduction by 1% on the capacity. To prolong your batterylife, never let it fully drain cause it does have a huge impact the more it happens.
Actually apple engineers already said that letting it drain from 100% to 0% in 1 day, or 20% per day in 5 days you would drain 1 cycle of 0-100% battery charge, the 2 scenarios are actually the same, the point is that the more you use on battery the fastest it ill lose the 1k cycles until the battery completely dies. The same on iPhone. To prolong battery life is more simple to never use on battery hahaha but that kills the purpose of having a MacBook instead of an iMac
@@Natanael_nass true, quite agree on the last part. But if someone's just holding onto a MacBook temporarily and hopes to upgrade in the next generations or so, like I do, quite helps to get the battery capacity higher so the resell price won't get that lowballed much. 😂
Yup I always from day 1 when I got my iPhone thought abt if it fully died the life goes down and my iPhone only fully died once or twice because of some reasons but I charge my phone when I gets low and it works
A more powerful charger would not charge a battery faster than the maximum rate the battery management system is designed to take. The input voltage has to be within the range, and should be able to provide enough current to maintain that voltage without too much noise. Charging a battery slower would not damage a battery but in certain cases will increase its longevity. That being said, if the system is in use to a point where the battery is constantly going in between charge, discharge states due to the adaptor not being able to provide enough power to maintain the running system while charging, this can negatively affect the longevity.
Right. I don't know why these old-school battery myths still exist. No one is using nickel-cadmium batteries in laptops any longer. Modern battery tech has so many preventative measures in place due to both globally accepted safety regulations as well as tech advancements in the past decade that we simply do not need to worry about anything other than constant and complete full discharges or long term storage whilst the battery is fully expunged. I get the need to pad a video with speech to make it longer for the algorithm, but some further research into what modern battery technology is really all about wouldn't have gone unwarranted. And of *course* they claim that we shouldn't skip software updates. But not because of battery related gains, usually. Take that one wherever you will.
I used my macbook pro m1 as a desktop and always kept it plugged in. After 9 months and 31 cycles my battery life was at 84%. I changed the battery on the last 2 days of warranty and now I'll try to use it as a normal laptop and charge it between 30-80%. Also I'm going to use Aldente.
I've had my M1 MBP since January of 2021. I've used Al Dente since day 1. I keep my battery limited to 60% on work days (work from home, stays plugged in 8-5), and 80% on weekends. I rarely go below 30% and have only gone below 20% a handful of times. I have charged to 100% occasionally. I have 108 cycles and macOS reports 100% health. Coconut Battery reports 98%. If you're going to keep it plugged in that's fine, just set the limit to 50% or so if you can have a heads up to unplug (to set the limit higher to charge up).
The Aldente app is great as it stops the charge at your pre-selected percentage. Leaving the battery at 50% is the best for its longevity if you keep it plugged in all the time
I completely agree. I have used Al Dente for some time now and it greatly increased the battery lifespan of my 2020 13" intel MacBook Pro. After 18 months that battery was still at 98% before it lost an argument with a glass of wine, unfortunately the app cannot protect against this (I will never get over it). My latest 2021 16" M1 Pro is still sitting at 100%. I have always held the charge at 85% when plugged in. I have only charged it higher if I know that I am going to have a particularly heavy day away from a power source. I would highly recommend this app.
@@timblewee Wait.. if I did understand it right, I need to have this app so I could have mac plugged in and it stops charging when it comes to 85%. And I shoud not let mac drop under 50% of battery anytime? Sorry my english is not the best
@@TP-ot7lp your can let it drop below 50% but it's best that you charge it before it goes below 30%. They say that the ideal is between 80/30 add lithium batteries become stressed if the charge goes too low or too high. My iPhone 12 is almost 2 years old but still 100% health despite charging every day on a 20w fast charger because I keep the battery within that threshold. You're best to only go to 100% if you're travelling out have a particularly demanding worlflow and won't have access to a charger. If you're planning on keeping it plugged in for over a week it's best to keep it at 50% as 50% is the most comfortable state of charge of a lithium battery as there's am equal distribution of positive and negative ions. Apple does have a battery optimizer but it's not very effective because it does charge to 100% most times and relies on you having the exact same use pattern every day (e.g. You use it at 10am every day),if you don't have a predictable pattern the Apple algorithm struggles to optimise the battery. That's why Aldente is great, unlike the Apple battery optimizer, it gives you full manual control over when your battery stops charging and even stood charging of it detects that the battery is reaching a dangerous temperature (high temperatures degrades the battery faster) which is something Apple's optimizer can't do. If you want to disable Aldente to charge above the limit it's as simple as switching it off on the taskbar. It's free and the most essential app you can have to best preserve the life of your battery
@@loughrey101 wow thanks for useful info. So to conclude, If I am using it only daily basis its best to have it unplugged when it is on 80% and then when it drops to like 30 or 40 i should plugg it in?
@@TP-ot7lp Well, if you use the Aldente app and you set it to 80%, it'll stop charging at that point and use the plug so you won't be wearing out the battery. It's okay to keep it at 80% while plugged in, it's just if you are the type that leaves it plugged in for weeks is best to set that limit to 50% and the app will automatically drain your battery down to 50% and then switch to the plug, and then when your want to start using the battery again because you're travelling you can switch the app off in thr task bar and charge the battery up.
I got my base model 14in MacBook Pro in March and it's at 89% because of my HORRIBLE habits. 😞 I let it drain to 0 often bc I would be using it and forget to plug it in. Most of the time this happened when I fell asleep at night lol but I've seen a series of battery maintenance videos and I will be changing habits! This vid was super helpful as well!
My M1 Pro MacBook Pro I bought last summer is still on 20 charge cycle and 99% capacity. When at home, I always have it plugged in, and once in a while I take it out and don't use the charger (the battery capacity is banging!), and when I get home, I plug it back on, and it either charges to 100% and slowly discharges to 80%, or sometimes it just charges to 80%. Sometimes I hit the "Charge to full now" just to get to 90% probably before I need to leave, but I've never been worried. Thanks Apple!
If the charger has much more power than necessary, it will definitely NOT harm anything. People need to stop thinking that the charger pushes the juice into the device. The device actually just pulls as much juice it needs. So yes, too less power is not soo perfect but too much is not a problem at all as it will never be reached if the device cannot handle it.
@@amrufy544 Thats obviously because the normal charger does not provide the amount of power the device can technically handle whereas the fast charger does exactly that..🤔
I personally think we worry too much about the MacBook battery and charging. I have my 2019 MacBook and it's always plugged, so far I have gone through 209 cycles. I also think that Mac OS optimises the battery charge for you. Currently my MacBook is at 79%, was at 100% this morning and I never unplugged it. Clicked on the battery icon and it says "(Charging on Hold) Rarely Used on Battery" I believe that's the OS handling when to discharge and fully charge without wondering about plugin and unplugging
Not only do people worry too much, but they worry about a bunch of shit that isn’t even true lol. These rules apply to most batteries, but not the ones Apple uses. They prioritize your battery’s health over basically everything else. You aren’t gonna do anything they aren’t already doing in software.
All this guys vids are bullshit. They’re aimed at people who aren’t tech savvy, most comments on here are fake or paid for. And almost all his vids are paid commercials for certain apps.
What is the point of having a laptop, if you are keeping it plugged all the time. After all those years, how is your battery doing when you need to run your machine only on it?
Not entirely sure I got what do you base your idea “not to interrupt charge until 90-95%”. Closer to 100 you get, more strain battery is getting. I would say 80% is good level of charge / balance of strain and capacity. Ideal for reducing strain would be 60% but it’s impractical. So I would charge up if I’m lower than 80% frequently when I have a minute or two next to the charger (talking more about smaller mobile devices in practice, but laptop would be similar)
Well, this should be setting in OS / BIOS and has been in Windows laptops for at least a decade: the "100%" really ment 100% of set charging threshold - e.g. 90,80% of total battery capacity.
This video is poorly researched, 'clickbaity', using scare tactics early on to get people to continue viewing it, and is filled to the brim with BS and misinformation that's simply not true. Such as only charging with the Apple issued charger. While it is true that cheap, knockoff chargers can damage your device - any charger that is worth its salt will do just fine. Even if it's of a much higher Wattage than what Apple provided. The power rating of a charger has no real bearing on the batterylife of the device it charges, as long as it doesn't charge the battery faster than the original charger (but still within spec of the charging capabilities of the device). A Macbook that is able to charge at 45 Watt will have just as good battery performance from using an original 45 watt charger, as it would from a 100+ watt third party charger. The device won't charge quicker than its intended 45 watt, but you can absolutely charge a laptop with 45 watt charging on a 100+ watt charger, with no issues what so ever. The device will still only draw 45 watt from the charger, so you're not running any higher risk of killing the port or the battery. Edit: And to add onto that, slow charging shouldn't really hurt batteries either, as long as it's supplying a constant-isch voltage, as any charger worthy of its name would. Heat does hurt battery longevity though, and faster charging generates more heat.
It is suggested to charge your battery powered devices to a maxium of 85%. They also say that our current battery tech is at its peak preformance between 50-85% state of charge and to try to keep it as close to these numbers as possible and to never go past 20% unless needed.
My 7 year old Dell XPS 12 has a feature that will stop charging at 80% and will not start charging until it is below 50% unless I manually select "charge now to full". I mostly use it at home so don't need to have it fully charged as I'm most of the time plugged in. Battery health is showing 91% after 7 years! I do discharge and fully charge every few weeks .... Would be great apple added similar features!
You don’t need to use original charging accessories. As long as the output voltage matches the standard used by Apple (USB PD for example) then the laptop will take care of current. In fact the computer, not the charger does the majority of the workload regulating the input. Also interrupting charge will be less stressful on the battery. It’s like taking a break from from a stressful task.
Fun fact... MacBook Pros from 2008-2012 were made intentionally to abuse the battery as puffer storage because the power supply was not capable of delivering enough for 100% load. So the battery level was going while gaming or maximum load on CPU+GPU slowly down on AC. Some called it an engineering mistake, i think it was intentionally, because you literally needed unreasonable, sustained extreme load on CPU and GPU at the same time (gaming mainly), which the heat was anyways too much for the whole, super slim design cooking your legs/eggs already. I have my 2010 machine still, awesome device, upgraded even the SSD from 500GB to 1TB, so my 2010 MacBook Pro has more SSD than my 2021 M1 Pro base model with 512GB, but also just 8GB Ram vs 16 on the new.
4:12 it's not something Apple invented (the so-called Apple's Fast charging). This is basic battery chemistry. Given the battery is in an optimal temperature range, from 0% -75% power capacity, batteries tend to charge rapidly, it's the last few percentages, specifically the last 20% -15% where the charge rate gets down dramatically. From 90-95% to 100% charges is even harder and takes a lot of time compared to the low charge ranges. This is how batteries work.
some have suggest battery health issues are when charging via the USB-C that is lower power rating than the MagSafe, then whilst doing intensive tasks the machine is fighting between charging the battery and using the power for the machine. not sure how true that is but makes seem sense
Good explanation, good video, thank you! Just want to ask, which is more better : 1. I use my MBA M1 and always plugged in to USB-C to C Monitor (Thunderbolt) and sometimes like your recommendation to recharging it once every two weeks. Or, 2. I use USB-C to HDMI cable for my monitor, and charging my macbook with original power adapter. Thanks!
Is it true that you can't continue to charge the iPad when it's at 100%? I heard that when it's fully charged, the electric power will be pulled from the charger and rest the battery. And I know that keeping your battery at 100% for a long time will degrade your battery life, however how long is "a long time"? Is it 1 day, 3 days, or maybe 1 week? How about always keep the battery at 100% for let say 1-3 days at desk use, after that use the battery until it reach like 30% to cycle the battery performance? It is a win-win solution, right?
I heard that If we keep the MacBook connected to the charger all the time while using it, it will get the power directly from the adapter instead of the battery so This will not be considered in the cycle count. Still, I have observed that the MacBook gets heated more if we connect the charger all the time.
I'm a little confused. I tried following the 80-20 rule but my battery health is now 94 percent after 6 mos of usage. I use it for my online classes for 6 hours a day. Should I plug it in instead?
There's nothing wrong if you connect a +100W charger on a Macbook Air, as long as it uses the Power Delivery standard it will provide only the neccesary power that your device requires. I charge my Macbook Air M1 with a USB-C 65W charger from a Lenovo Thinkpad T14 and only provides the required voltage and current neccesary for my device.
Ok, so apple is shipping 140W power adapter witch is more power then needed. So I’m not fallowing. Also excess heat degrees battery health more than anything else. And while heating it up and after heating and cooling down it will function still it will not perform to the same level. Cooling on the other hand will cause the battery to stop working but once it’s heated up it will maintain full capacity. Heat kills battery and fast changing I.e using apples power adapter can actually lower the lifespan. But apple management of the battery will do everything it can to ensure it lasts the length of the warranty if not longer. So you really don’t need to worry.
My M1 MacBook was just delivered recently. As I did with my older MacBook (2015) I plan to only use the charger that came with the laptop. Haven't had any issues. Not planning at any point to use the USB C hub I just bought to charge my MacBook.
I have used my 14mbp since June without doing anything about the battery except enabling low power mode on battery... And my battery health is still 100% Don't obsess over it
Al-dente to manage Max charge to 80%. OST of the time. And leave plugged in using an Apple iPad 30W charger when engaged in low power activities, and on the go. But use the supplied high power (m1 pro 16”) to top up before heading out on the go, or when rendering video, or when fans spin up. This combo minimises the battery temp in use and when being charged.
My new M2 Air, it's been around one month and I usually plug in the charger when it's around 25% - 30% and then disconnect it at around 80%. Till now it has gone through 28 cycles.
With most other lithium powered devices, charging slower actually is healthier for the device. Why is a laptop different? I was surprised you said charging slower was bad for the macbook. Can you please clarify?
My 2009 mid-year MBP has been on constantly for at least the last 5 years plugged in and charging since the battery was replaced (running external monitor only). Battery shows 98%. Never unplugged/discharged/cycled unless the power went out. Gets at least 6 hours of use a day. In the last 13 years it's been ON far more than OFF.
I use my MacBook everyday but the tasks I need from it aren't that taxing for the M1 pro chip. So I just charge the battery when it gets low and avoid charging it overnight to prevent overcharging the battery.
in one of your other videos you said "charge it using the slowest charger especially if you do it overnight". So, which of the two opinions is right then?
Because he has no clue what he is talking about, and this video is only as good as a fake news. Charging the battery slower is better, because you're not heating the battery too much and heat damages the battery. Don't take my word for it, look it up, look at other comments. The 20%-80% rule is also bullshit, it was true 20 years ago, but now you're not gonna save your battery by doing that, you're only gonna use it more lol.
@@user-hm7zn6bz4y yeah, less heat is better. I thought the 80% part was not as true. But I think the battery going too low might not be that good. So if possible I plug in at ~20%
I think you got wrong how electricity and power demand work. Having a higher wattage charger won't damage your battery as the laptop will just extract what it demands from the charger, if is topped to 96W and your charger is 150W, laptop will only demand 96W, that's it. On the contrary, if charger is lower wattage, then yes the charger might be stressed and your laptop will charge slower. That´s it.
I have a Macbook Air M1 which is 8 months old, and I am using it like a desktop machine with a USB-C hub because external monitor and external soundcard connected to it as I am a music producer. I tend to leave it on a charger all the time as the soundcard eats a lot of battery. Unfortunately after 8 months my battery capacity dropped to 92% with only 32 cycles, because I always kept the battery at 100%. I don't know what could be the best solution for this to maintain better battery life, but I think Apple should develop a feature which recognizes when the charger is always plugged in, such as not charging the battery, just using the adapter and disconnect the battery and sometimes leaving the battery to drain.
@Arthur Winer, I have purchased today M2 Air Base model from Authorised Apple Seller here in Mumbai, India. When I got the MBA in my hand, the store guy unboxed it and opened the lid but to my surprise it didn't start until we plugged in. We checked the battery health which was 100%. But this is the first time in my life that the Mac product didn't start after opening the lid. Is it normal or any issue with the hardware? The battery was charging well when plugged in but any idea why such thing must have happened? May there be any battery issue? The date of manufacture is September 2023. Will appreciate your feedback.
Very useful information, thanks for the video! But there is one advise that I totally disagree with 6:47 "Close the apps that you don't use" - not exactly correct way to operate it. It depends on the app. 'Cos if you use some apps frequently and "Quite" (close completely) it every time that will cause SSD and RAM degradation. MacOS is clever enough to completely stop the app while storing all the necessary information to quickly boot it up from the hibernation and it's not affect battery anyhow.
as musician its hardly to keep your Mac updated , usually I stay to the system my Mac shipped with , after 3 updates and lost plenty of projects and files it be like that , I update my Mac only by buying a new one
At first you said "simultaneous charging and discharging is not a useful exercise", then you said that is possible and ok to use MacBook always plugged in. Isn't that the same? Always plugged in device that is being used is constantly on power, charging/discharging?
Due my 2year test charging with the low power, it dramatically extends battery life. The only important thing is the way your charger works, if this is an pulse charger (same as for phones)- your battery will be killed. The charger has to be heavy as original one, means it is a constant charger. So here are misconception in video: its not about power, it's about charging source.
Thank you fo thi valuable information. But are you able to provide a general rule on how to charge and when to charge. Permanently plugged in vs. Plugin now and again. A short and sweet version, the one you are using.
My wife has mac book air m1. 30 cycles and 91%. Only browsers plus some documents editing always unplugged. I don’t think in the end that all of this “care about the battery” has sense,
I've seen conflicting videos and comments all over the internet about plugging in your Mac all the time is a bad practice or a good one? also is it true that battery is best preserved when we only charge it between 20% to 80%?
Well, the main reason of using genuine charger is that it provides stable and sufficient amounts of voltage and current without spikes and drops. Internal circuitry needs stable power otherwise not only a battery but computer as a whole will stop working (power circuit failure). I'm sure there are good chargers out there even if they are not apple certified but how do you know which one is good? For instance your third party charger is underpowered for macbook. This will lead to overheating the charger and as a result of overheating the fire can occur. This is the worst case scenario. Also, seemingly good third party charger is not that much cheaper than the genuine one.
Slower chargers DON‘T hurt the battery! When you charge slower there is less temperature produced inside the battery and this is not bad! In contrast: if you always fast charge your device and the battery get‘s hot that will hurt the battery. Take a 65W GaN Anker charger and charge your Mac and your iPad. You Mac will get around 45W and the iPad around 20W. No problems.
i've done everything you've said in this video for my mbp m1 14". it's been ONLY 3 months and the battery is now at 93% max capacity. i keep it charged and use it opened with an external monitor. i set it to sleep automatically when not in use. my main concerns are, what could i be doing wrong? and why has the battery already dropped so much with only 3 months of usage?? i paid way too much for this machine that is only going to die too quickly on me, it's irritating.
This video is shit. If you leave it plugged in all the time... Install aldente or similar software and set max charge to 50 or 60% that should slow battery degradation tremendously as the electrons are pretty evenly spread between cathode and anode and that takes pressure of the membrane.
Thats crazy. I have a m1 macbook air that I have have for over a year... it's still at 100% capacity. I don't do anything special. I plug it in most of the time. I do plug directly into a usb-port, I do NOT do passthrough charging through a hub. maybe thats just a bad idea.
@@bernirose2873 When i'm using my laptop it's plugged in. I use it like a desktop. At the end of the night i unplug and put it away. i do nothing special with it. I would recommend only charging with the official apple charging brick just to be safe. I don't use any third party chargers and I do NOT use passthrough charging through a dock or monitor
Microsoft Surface, Asus, and Lenovo have options to charge the battery to 50% for desktop use. Do you recommend a similar 3rd party app on Macbooks used as a desktop?
It's been 6 months since I bought M1 pro 16inch. Now, cycle count is 36 and capacity is still at 100%. I mostly keep it plugged in all the time. With optimized charging, charging stops at 80%.
@@ilovetwdg Normally, I don't have to because I only use it plugged in all the time. but I heard it's good to sometimes drain battery to 20-30% and then fully charge it again. So battery stays at around 80% most of the time. but sometimes optimized charging doesn't kick in. One workaround I find is that if the charging doesn't stop at 80%, let it charge to around 90% and then pull the plug. Plug it in after 5-10mins. This way optimized charging kicks in again and then battery drains to 80% and stays at that level. It's weird but I just wish they give full control over optimized charging to the user. I don't wanna use 3rd party so it works for me like that.
Still using my MacBook Pro from 2012 with it's original battery and it keeps working fine. Can easily use it for 1-2 hours on battery power alone. Battery has always been charged to 100%.
@Yash It's always plugged in when I use it, from beginning to end. I suggest people to use their MacBook in a normal way, without thinking about charging strategies. Just enjoy your machine and it should last 8+ years in normal use cases.
@@jurgor8661 Why exactly? My battery still works fine after 10 years of using. After 10 years it's probably time to upgrade anyway. Charging to 80% is only important in cars.
@@jeadventurous5497 I agree. All this battery optimization stuff is overthinking it for the vast majority of people. Just leave it plugged in until the level you're personally comfortable with. As long as it lasts the better part of a decade, you're fine because it will be time for an upgrade anyway. There are too many hardware and software upgrades over time to reasonably keep these machines as your main one for the rest of your life (and probably much more important things to worry about lol).
I’m not sure your statement about a power adaptor “giving too much power” is based on anything in reality. The mac will draw the current it requires, it will not overdraw.
My MacBook Pro 14” is always plugged in to the Apple charger I got with it. It seems like MacOS manages my battery. I use my MacBook mostly as a desktop. Apple keeps it at 80% and tells me my MacBook is rarely used on battery. Do I need to discharge it to 50% every two weeks, then top it up. Or is keeping it at 80% okay. Shouldn’t my MacBook tell me that?
I used macpaw to clean all the old files and when I did it deleted actual files that I needed to run my mac seemlesly. I thought the software would let me know that I needed those files.
You're wrong about using a charger that can supply more power than the MacBook needs. These laptops use the USB-C Power Delivery standard for charging, even the with the MagSafe charger. What that means is that there is a chip in both the cable and charger as well as the laptops ports that performs and handshake with the cable/charger and tells it the max current to send to the laptop. It literally cannot send too much power. It will also refuse to charge if the adapter does not meet this specification. You do need to watch out for cheap Chinese chargers though as these will often lie to the system to bypass the protections and allow the charger to work. As long as you use quality aftermarket chargers/cables such as the ones sold by reputable companies like Anker it is perfectly fine to do. I just wouldn't use anything under around 65 watts. However you can use your cellphones charger in a pinch, just shut the system down first.
there is just some flatly wrong information in this video. Charging a lithium ion battery slowly does not hurt it, the computer will negotiate the amount of power that it will take from an adapter so it’s not like you will overpower the USB.
He is actually leaving some other facts about lower wattage charging. It is way healthier for the battery to be charged by lower wattage charger when your Mac is not in use, and you can actually use the lower wattage charger when you’re using your Mac doing normal light tasks, as long as your Mac is charging and you’re patient enough to wait a bit longer for it to recharge then there’s nothing bad to use one. Using always with the high wattage would be worse all the time if you don’t need any of those extra wattage to keep your Mac going and working. So kinda didn’t agree with what he said about using lower wattage in that case.
All this guys vids are bullshit. They’re aimed at people who aren’t tech savvy, most comments on here are fake or paid for and almost all his vids are paid commercials for certain apps. More people need to know this.
I never travel with my macbook.I use it for music production in my studio and never leaves that table. Isnt it best to just leave the damn thing ALWAYS plugged?
I've seen a bunch of these videos and videos about how to make your MacBook last longer. I think they are mostly rubbish. What kind of shenanigans is it worth going through to get an extra 5% out of a battery? Why would I go out and buy a cheap adapter when one is included when you buy it. If you own it long enough, at some point the battery will need to be replace. When that happens, just replace it.
Asked some apple tech in the store, keeping your battery from 20 to 80 is bullshit the more you'll use it the more the battery will be used overtime that's all. Use apple's charger as the battery has been made in correlation with it, same amount of wattage isn't the only parameter. At least turn it off once a week for the initialisation of updates and cache. Be careful of the amount of applications running in the background and the environment in which you're using your laptop, warmth, humidity... That's it
What they should do is add a SOC% limit. The Samsung galaxy s21 has a built in limiter to 85%. Also this is why I am still using a thick macbook pro from 2011. repairing it is easy
I used my mac book pro 2017 always plugged in. Battery died to 75% its capacity in 380 cycles. I am using my mbp pro 2019 and charging it when its battery charge drops to 20-40% on meetings or other non consuming tasks, but plugged in when i work using power consuming apps, i monitor the battery temperature, not exceeding 40 C, now i have 300 cycles and 84% capacity. I would say - no difference at all. Only original changers. So… what is the sense?
You can austistically try and predict battery life and usage but real world use will often dictate the circumstances as to when, where, and how you charge. The reality is that normal use is not going to cause insane battery degradation. Any laptop will need a battery replacement if you intend to use it beyond a few years.
No one ask before, so i‘am new in the Game i bought my first MacBook Pro. Should i first charge the battery before turn it on the very first time, or can use it out of the box and then plug in the first time at 30% percent or something.
yeah he love to spread misinformation. The sad part is... i even believe he really believe in his words himself! Just another youtuber without any technical experience trying to squeeze out the money from youtube.
I've recently bought my first Mac (MacBook Pro M2 Pro) and I haven't used it much but I don't know how its battery health dropped to 97 in just 26 charge cycles. I mean I have 14 pro max and I'm using it heavily for last 8 months and its battery health is at 99. So its kinda strange how a device that don't use much is at 97% battery health in just 5 months (26 charge cycles) and a device that I'm using very heavily is at 99% battery even after 8 month (probably over 100 charge cycles).
Sorry, but in the first 2 minutes you made a big mistake. You can use a 200W charger even if the MacBook only charges with 30W. The amount of power drawn is controlled by the battery charging circuit and you cannot overcharge and overload.
Once every 2 weeks let it discharge from 100 to 50 percent and back While always plugged in won't effect health of your battery Healthy to perform a full recharge cycle from time to time It would be worse for you recharge 200 and go down to 0 percent It's a beast of a battery cycle Do Not discharge it Completely Because value 20- 40 can always recharge to 100 percent Interrupt charging as little as possible Try to recharge device at least to 90 95%
Apple knows full-well how to optimize battery usage, but choose not to. Lithium battery lifetime extends ten-times longer when kept between 20% and 80%. That doesn't mean one doesn't occasionally require 100% or occasionally discharge below 20%. Face it, most leave their mobile devices plugged-in nearly full-time, as Apple essentially recommends. Apple could easily have battery settings accounting for this. One such setting might charge only to 80%, unless one taps the battery charge indicator on the status-bar, causing 100% charge? Alternately, folks who need 100% every day, could have that setting (the way it is today)?
Thanks a ton bro...super helpful stuff So leaving it plugged in...with original charger or Anker...good thing or bad thing ? I know it wasn't a good thing with Intel processors heating up but with the M1 series those don't heat up much so maybe?
I don't care about the battery... I charge upto 100% , even i forget removing charger for 2-3days which means i overcharge it. I have 87% battery health after using mac air m1 for 2yrs. It still has awesome battery. 2days ago i switched to mac air m3 and following the same rule... "I DONT CARE ABOUT THE BATTERY" 😂
stressful? Which stress when using AlDente? Especially AlDente Pro? I got soon 150 cycles on my 2021 16" battery. mostly used between 40 and 70% charge on battery and also a lot limited to 50% on desktop/clamshell usage. Still 100% battery health, but soon its dropping (according to coconut battery which shows already 99,6%) to 99%. Also, i barely used the 140W power brick... in fact often im using the 140W for my iPhone Mini (where i really dont care about the battery and is anyways limited to 15 or 20W) and my MacBook Pro gets charged nearly exclusively on a 45+18W 65W Dual Output mobile power brick. Btw, always charging to 100%, especially from 95 to 100% is literally a battery killer... like this we dont talk about 3 careless vs 4 stressful years... we talk more about 2 years of good capacity and after 3-4 years dead vs good capacity for at least 500 cycles or 5 years and more... I killed enough batteries in my 2010 15" MacBook Pro (4 in overall, I got on my 2010 model around 3000 charging cycles, and its still working and looking "nice"! What a long lasting machine!) to know what hurts the battery and what not so much, next to a lot of LiPo/LiIon experience in many usecases!
@@harrison00xXx yeah bro, i agree with you. There are always those who wanna optimize everything, trying to squeeze last bit of juice. That effort itself is stressful or in other words, another thing to care about. Rather than trying to make my MB last 5-10 years, i would just simply forget all those things and replace the battery after 3 years or i might replace macbook with M5 chip? haha
@@HaewonJeong-s7e Well, considering upgrades arent possible anymore (or not really reasonable), the future will show its more replaced than upgraded/reused, especially with memory on a chip and Apples stategy of limited RAM/storage...
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1:59 Slower charging speed does not decrease battery health. It's actually much better for it than charging the battery faster. It's just not as nice for having a charged battery on a time limit, though.
Yep, last time I checked, slower is better for lithium cells. Willing to be re-educated.
Josh is completely right, slower charging is better (slow=less heat=better). Also the charger brand doesn't really matter as the charge CONTROLLER is in the MacBook. Unfortunately another videos about batteries full of misunderstandings. :/
@@valynor Charger brand does make difference, I have used cheap iPhone chargers which would glitch the phone while plugged in, the screen would become unresponsive, charge controller in the iPhone did not do anything. Some cheap chargers should not be used
@@rumbecker5085 well yes but this is by definition a defective charger. It doesn't have to be an Apple charger, e.g. Anker is perfectly fine at a much lower price.
@@valynor Correct so brand does matter, Anker charger are fantastic many other good brands out there but the BRAND DOE matter. Cheap Chinese and other knock offs are garbage, it's very important to get a good brand. As for OEM, there is no way I would pay for an OEM Apple charger
TL:DW with corrections
1. Charge the battery with a slower charger, max 100W (they charge at 80W speeds)
2. Keep the battery between 20-80% (though I've found it to be pretty okay to do 10-90%)
3. If you do heavy tasks that will pull 60-70W consistently, plug in the laptop.
4. Don't keep the laptop plugged in at 100% (pretty obvious)
I thought that when you reach 100%, the MacBook system will automatically switch to the plug input and so it’s doesn’t matter if you keep it plugged, it might even be better
@@davidcolti9979 I've heard really conflicting things about point four. Some experts say don't keep it plugged in at 100% and others say it doesn't matter and Mac will automatically optimize the charge. Which is itttttt lol
It shouldnt overcharge..
So what's the practical advice? When your battery reaches 20% you start charging it? And then unplug it at 80%?
Actually it’s pretty bad to let the battery charged at 100% all the time because it strains the cell. A cell in a battery need to not be overly discharged or maintained at peak voltage. In order to not put strain in your battery you need to maintain the cell to a more reasonable voltage an thus maintaining the battery at 60 to 70 % Charge when you a constantly plugged in. You need to do a cycle from time to time to reset the charge controler
MBA M1 over here, I had it like 19 months ago. First ten months used it as "regular" laptop, then last eight / nine months I used it always plugged in since I do some streaming, video editing and such and external monitor. I unplug it when I'm done and every now and then I let it discharge to 20%.
Right now I'm at 98% BH and 88 cycles, and it gives me nearly 15 hours of usage on battery alone. Just don't let it drain completely and don't be afraid to plug it in if you're going to do heavy tasks.
How often do you discharge it to 20%? I've been using mine for almost 9 months now with 32cc and 97% batt health. Most of the time it's plugged in when I'm using it. I was bit shocked when I lost 3% batt health (100-97) real quick in just a month. I still had it at 100% batt health just a month ago then boom 97% real quick. But it was on my 8 month of using it (almost always plugged in) that it started decreasing to 97%. Hope you can help me on this one.
@@johnlexterrosales143tbh I rarely let it go beyond 20%. Most of the time I plug it between 20% and 80%. The only cases where I let it charge beyond 80 is when I'm performing heavy tasks such editing audio or video. As for today, my MBA M1 base model is currently at 96% and 128 cycles, with a normal battery condition.
Is worth metioning that I'm using it as a regular laptop since I have other laptops to perform edition and such. I don't know how old is your MB, but maybe the battery percentage dropped all at once? Mine was slowly decreasing but I know cases where that drops suddenly after a year or so.
Charging slower doesn't hurt battery. In the contrary, it's better for battery health
indeed, that’s the problem with newer devices & chargers, and the main reason the 12 and 13 iPhone series lose 3 to 4 battery health percentage in less than a year
@@emirmontazeri No, there’s something else at work.
I have an iPhone 13, and only charge using an old 5W brick, with optimised charging, and have lost 4% health over nine or ten months.
@@nanolog522 I believe the main factor is heat (besides battery cycle, obv). Maybe your case didn’t let the phone to stay cool during charging, or you used it while charging. Fun fact I actually commented something like this under another video that said turn off optimization as it could damage the battery (still have mine on however), I will link it for you in next comment. Also, I do not think after 10 months, that’s too bad of decrease, just saying my opinion not experience.
I have the iPhone 11 pro max since it came out and my battery 🔋 health is on 95%, the way I charge it : I always plug it in around 8pm and charge only to 98%. I never let it on the charger over night because with my previous iphones I ruined my batteries leaving them plugged in all the time.
@@DobleCTheMinisters cool! What charger do you use?
A little something for y'all- there's 86 cycle counts at the moment and my battery capacity is at 94%. I accidentally let it drain to complete 0% about 6 times as well since I have the tendency to pass out when overworked still having programs, renders, etc. which drains down the battery. Everytime that happened I always saw a deduction by 1% on the capacity. To prolong your batterylife, never let it fully drain cause it does have a huge impact the more it happens.
Actually apple engineers already said that letting it drain from 100% to 0% in 1 day, or 20% per day in 5 days you would drain 1 cycle of 0-100% battery charge, the 2 scenarios are actually the same, the point is that the more you use on battery the fastest it ill lose the 1k cycles until the battery completely dies. The same on iPhone. To prolong battery life is more simple to never use on battery hahaha but that kills the purpose of having a MacBook instead of an iMac
@@Natanael_nass true, quite agree on the last part. But if someone's just holding onto a MacBook temporarily and hopes to upgrade in the next generations or so, like I do, quite helps to get the battery capacity higher so the resell price won't get that lowballed much. 😂
@@zayneytem hahahahah Im actually doing the same here! Taking care of my stuff to keep the resell higher 🤣
You should take care of your health if are passing out while working too much lol jk
Yup I always from day 1 when I got my iPhone thought abt if it fully died the life goes down and my iPhone only fully died once or twice because of some reasons but I charge my phone when I gets low and it works
A more powerful charger would not charge a battery faster than the maximum rate the battery management system is designed to take. The input voltage has to be within the range, and should be able to provide enough current to maintain that voltage without too much noise.
Charging a battery slower would not damage a battery but in certain cases will increase its longevity. That being said, if the system is in use to a point where the battery is constantly going in between charge, discharge states due to the adaptor not being able to provide enough power to maintain the running system while charging, this can negatively affect the longevity.
Right. I don't know why these old-school battery myths still exist. No one is using nickel-cadmium batteries in laptops any longer. Modern battery tech has so many preventative measures in place due to both globally accepted safety regulations as well as tech advancements in the past decade that we simply do not need to worry about anything other than constant and complete full discharges or long term storage whilst the battery is fully expunged. I get the need to pad a video with speech to make it longer for the algorithm, but some further research into what modern battery technology is really all about wouldn't have gone unwarranted.
And of *course* they claim that we shouldn't skip software updates. But not because of battery related gains, usually. Take that one wherever you will.
I used my macbook pro m1 as a desktop and always kept it plugged in. After 9 months and 31 cycles my battery life was at 84%. I changed the battery on the last 2 days of warranty and now I'll try to use it as a normal laptop and charge it between 30-80%. Also I'm going to use Aldente.
I've had my M1 MBP since January of 2021. I've used Al Dente since day 1. I keep my battery limited to 60% on work days (work from home, stays plugged in 8-5), and 80% on weekends. I rarely go below 30% and have only gone below 20% a handful of times. I have charged to 100% occasionally.
I have 108 cycles and macOS reports 100% health. Coconut Battery reports 98%.
If you're going to keep it plugged in that's fine, just set the limit to 50% or so if you can have a heads up to unplug (to set the limit higher to charge up).
@@quinton1661 How to keep your battery limited to 60% ( I use external monitor , with dock plugged in it always charges my macbook)
warranty makes battery replacements free? or was that apple care plus
@@definingslawek4731 Did you find the answer? Please let me know
you have to stop battery charging abouve a particular threshold if you keep your laptop on charging while using for long time
The Aldente app is great as it stops the charge at your pre-selected percentage. Leaving the battery at 50% is the best for its longevity if you keep it plugged in all the time
I completely agree. I have used Al Dente for some time now and it greatly increased the battery lifespan of my 2020 13" intel MacBook Pro. After 18 months that battery was still at 98% before it lost an argument with a glass of wine, unfortunately the app cannot protect against this (I will never get over it). My latest 2021 16" M1 Pro is still sitting at 100%. I have always held the charge at 85% when plugged in. I have only charged it higher if I know that I am going to have a particularly heavy day away from a power source. I would highly recommend this app.
@@timblewee Wait.. if I did understand it right, I need to have this app so I could have mac plugged in and it stops charging when it comes to 85%. And I shoud not let mac drop under 50% of battery anytime? Sorry my english is not the best
@@TP-ot7lp your can let it drop below 50% but it's best that you charge it before it goes below 30%. They say that the ideal is between 80/30 add lithium batteries become stressed if the charge goes too low or too high. My iPhone 12 is almost 2 years old but still 100% health despite charging every day on a 20w fast charger because I keep the battery within that threshold. You're best to only go to 100% if you're travelling out have a particularly demanding worlflow and won't have access to a charger.
If you're planning on keeping it plugged in for over a week it's best to keep it at 50% as 50% is the most comfortable state of charge of a lithium battery as there's am equal distribution of positive and negative ions.
Apple does have a battery optimizer but it's not very effective because it does charge to 100% most times and relies on you having the exact same use pattern every day (e.g. You use it at 10am every day),if you don't have a predictable pattern the Apple algorithm struggles to optimise the battery.
That's why Aldente is great, unlike the Apple battery optimizer, it gives you full manual control over when your battery stops charging and even stood charging of it detects that the battery is reaching a dangerous temperature (high temperatures degrades the battery faster) which is something Apple's optimizer can't do. If you want to disable Aldente to charge above the limit it's as simple as switching it off on the taskbar. It's free and the most essential app you can have to best preserve the life of your battery
@@loughrey101 wow thanks for useful info. So to conclude, If I am using it only daily basis its best to have it unplugged when it is on 80% and then when it drops to like 30 or 40 i should plugg it in?
@@TP-ot7lp Well, if you use the Aldente app and you set it to 80%, it'll stop charging at that point and use the plug so you won't be wearing out the battery. It's okay to keep it at 80% while plugged in, it's just if you are the type that leaves it plugged in for weeks is best to set that limit to 50% and the app will automatically drain your battery down to 50% and then switch to the plug, and then when your want to start using the battery again because you're travelling you can switch the app off in thr task bar and charge the battery up.
I got my base model 14in MacBook Pro in March and it's at 89% because of my HORRIBLE habits. 😞
I let it drain to 0 often bc I would be using it and forget to plug it in. Most of the time this happened when I fell asleep at night lol but I've seen a series of battery maintenance videos and I will be changing habits! This vid was super helpful as well!
My M1 Pro MacBook Pro I bought last summer is still on 20 charge cycle and 99% capacity. When at home, I always have it plugged in, and once in a while I take it out and don't use the charger (the battery capacity is banging!), and when I get home, I plug it back on, and it either charges to 100% and slowly discharges to 80%, or sometimes it just charges to 80%. Sometimes I hit the "Charge to full now" just to get to 90% probably before I need to leave, but I've never been worried. Thanks Apple!
If the charger has much more power than necessary, it will definitely NOT harm anything. People need to stop thinking that the charger pushes the juice into the device. The device actually just pulls as much juice it needs. So yes, too less power is not soo perfect but too much is not a problem at all as it will never be reached if the device cannot handle it.
@@amrufy544 Thats obviously because the normal charger does not provide the amount of power the device can technically handle whereas the fast charger does exactly that..🤔
I personally think we worry too much about the MacBook battery and charging. I have my 2019 MacBook and it's always plugged, so far I have gone through 209 cycles. I also think that Mac OS optimises the battery charge for you. Currently my MacBook is at 79%, was at 100% this morning and I never unplugged it. Clicked on the battery icon and it says "(Charging on Hold) Rarely Used on Battery" I believe that's the OS handling when to discharge and fully charge without wondering about plugin and unplugging
ya me too and i also have 2020 macbook pro and i rarely take it off charge
Seems weird to me, but in my Macbook Air M1, I have 232 cycles, and it has 92% battery health, would you mind looking at your battery health?
@@AlejandroAnzolaAvila It says Normal on mine, the percentage is on state of charge
Not only do people worry too much, but they worry about a bunch of shit that isn’t even true lol. These rules apply to most batteries, but not the ones Apple uses. They prioritize your battery’s health over basically everything else. You aren’t gonna do anything they aren’t already doing in software.
All this guys vids are bullshit. They’re aimed at people who aren’t tech savvy, most comments on here are fake or paid for. And almost all his vids are paid commercials for certain apps.
i've used my 2010 17" mbpro daily as long as i've had it, and almost always plugged in. only at 391 cycles after 12 years!
Wow! I mean, WOW!
What is the point of having a laptop, if you are keeping it plugged all the time. After all those years, how is your battery doing when you need to run your machine only on it?
@@FATEK13 Who makes the rules of how people use their laptops? lol. Seriously?
Not entirely sure I got what do you base your idea “not to interrupt charge until 90-95%”. Closer to 100 you get, more strain battery is getting. I would say 80% is good level of charge / balance of strain and capacity. Ideal for reducing strain would be 60% but it’s impractical. So I would charge up if I’m lower than 80% frequently when I have a minute or two next to the charger (talking more about smaller mobile devices in practice, but laptop would be similar)
Well, this should be setting in OS / BIOS and has been in Windows laptops for at least a decade: the "100%" really ment 100% of set charging threshold - e.g. 90,80% of total battery capacity.
This video is poorly researched, 'clickbaity', using scare tactics early on to get people to continue viewing it, and is filled to the brim with BS and misinformation that's simply not true.
Such as only charging with the Apple issued charger. While it is true that cheap, knockoff chargers can damage your device - any charger that is worth its salt will do just fine. Even if it's of a much higher Wattage than what Apple provided.
The power rating of a charger has no real bearing on the batterylife of the device it charges, as long as it doesn't charge the battery faster than the original charger (but still within spec of the charging capabilities of the device). A Macbook that is able to charge at 45 Watt will have just as good battery performance from using an original 45 watt charger, as it would from a 100+ watt third party charger. The device won't charge quicker than its intended 45 watt, but you can absolutely charge a laptop with 45 watt charging on a 100+ watt charger, with no issues what so ever. The device will still only draw 45 watt from the charger, so you're not running any higher risk of killing the port or the battery.
Edit: And to add onto that, slow charging shouldn't really hurt batteries either, as long as it's supplying a constant-isch voltage, as any charger worthy of its name would. Heat does hurt battery longevity though, and faster charging generates more heat.
It is suggested to charge your battery powered devices to a maxium of 85%. They also say that our current battery tech is at its peak preformance between 50-85% state of charge and to try to keep it as close to these numbers as possible and to never go past 20% unless needed.
@@SStarlight9614 I personally agree with this - it’s fits my knowledge / research results.
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My 7 year old Dell XPS 12 has a feature that will stop charging at 80% and will not start charging until it is below 50% unless I manually select "charge now to full". I mostly use it at home so don't need to have it fully charged as I'm most of the time plugged in. Battery health is showing 91% after 7 years! I do discharge and fully charge every few weeks .... Would be great apple added similar features!
You don’t need to use original charging accessories. As long as the output voltage matches the standard used by Apple (USB PD for example) then the laptop will take care of current. In fact the computer, not the charger does the majority of the workload regulating the input. Also interrupting charge will be less stressful on the battery. It’s like taking a break from from a stressful task.
Fun fact... MacBook Pros from 2008-2012 were made intentionally to abuse the battery as puffer storage because the power supply was not capable of delivering enough for 100% load. So the battery level was going while gaming or maximum load on CPU+GPU slowly down on AC.
Some called it an engineering mistake, i think it was intentionally, because you literally needed unreasonable, sustained extreme load on CPU and GPU at the same time (gaming mainly), which the heat was anyways too much for the whole, super slim design cooking your legs/eggs already.
I have my 2010 machine still, awesome device, upgraded even the SSD from 500GB to 1TB, so my 2010 MacBook Pro has more SSD than my 2021 M1 Pro base model with 512GB, but also just 8GB Ram vs 16 on the new.
True but make sure the listed power on the charger is actually what it puts out :P which is a worry from cheap chargers
You said slower charging with a hub will hurt the battery, then why does Apple do a slower charge once it's above 80% to protect the battery?
4:12 it's not something Apple invented (the so-called Apple's Fast charging). This is basic battery chemistry.
Given the battery is in an optimal temperature range, from 0% -75% power capacity, batteries tend to charge rapidly, it's the last few percentages, specifically the last 20% -15% where the charge rate gets down dramatically. From 90-95% to 100% charges is even harder and takes a lot of time compared to the low charge ranges.
This is how batteries work.
some have suggest battery health issues are when charging via the USB-C that is lower power rating than the MagSafe, then whilst doing intensive tasks the machine is fighting between charging the battery and using the power for the machine. not sure how true that is but makes seem sense
Good explanation, good video, thank you!
Just want to ask, which is more better :
1. I use my MBA M1 and always plugged in to USB-C to C Monitor (Thunderbolt) and sometimes like your recommendation to recharging it once every two weeks.
Or,
2. I use USB-C to HDMI cable for my monitor, and charging my macbook with original power adapter.
Thanks!
why do you need to recharge it if it is always plugged in????
Is it true that you can't continue to charge the iPad when it's at 100%? I heard that when it's fully charged, the electric power will be pulled from the charger and rest the battery. And I know that keeping your battery at 100% for a long time will degrade your battery life, however how long is "a long time"? Is it 1 day, 3 days, or maybe 1 week?
How about always keep the battery at 100% for let say 1-3 days at desk use, after that use the battery until it reach like 30% to cycle the battery performance? It is a win-win solution, right?
I have a 2012 MBA, I have used it plugged in most of the time and my battery health is at 84% with 275 Cycles
Yes and don't change your habits, this video is BS. You're supposed to leave your mac plugged and not worry about the battey.
I heard that If we keep the MacBook connected to the charger all the time while using it, it will get the power directly from the adapter instead of the battery so This will not be considered in the cycle count. Still, I have observed that the MacBook gets heated more if we connect the charger all the time.
I'm a little confused. I tried following the 80-20 rule but my battery health is now 94 percent after 6 mos of usage. I use it for my online classes for 6 hours a day. Should I plug it in instead?
There's nothing wrong if you connect a +100W charger on a Macbook Air, as long as it uses the Power Delivery standard it will provide only the neccesary power that your device requires. I charge my Macbook Air M1 with a USB-C 65W charger from a Lenovo Thinkpad T14 and only provides the required voltage and current neccesary for my device.
I’ve got 3 cycles in 5 days with my new MacBook Air M1… I need to start taking care of it
Ok, so apple is shipping 140W power adapter witch is more power then needed. So I’m not fallowing. Also excess heat degrees battery health more than anything else. And while heating it up and after heating and cooling down it will function still it will not perform to the same level. Cooling on the other hand will cause the battery to stop working but once it’s heated up it will maintain full capacity. Heat kills battery and fast changing I.e using apples power adapter can actually lower the lifespan. But apple management of the battery will do everything it can to ensure it lasts the length of the warranty if not longer. So you really don’t need to worry.
My M1 MacBook was just delivered recently. As I did with my older MacBook (2015) I plan to only use the charger that came with the laptop. Haven't had any issues. Not planning at any point to use the USB C hub I just bought to charge my MacBook.
I have used my 14mbp since June without doing anything about the battery except enabling low power mode on battery... And my battery health is still 100%
Don't obsess over it
Al-dente to manage Max charge to 80%. OST of the time. And leave plugged in using an Apple iPad 30W charger when engaged in low power activities, and on the go. But use the supplied high power (m1 pro 16”) to top up before heading out on the go, or when rendering video, or when fans spin up.
This combo minimises the battery temp in use and when being charged.
My iPad Pro is a 2018 model and do the complete opposite of your recommendations lol, it still works fine and holds charge well
My new M2 Air, it's been around one month and I usually plug in the charger when it's around 25% - 30% and then disconnect it at around 80%. Till now it has gone through 28 cycles.
@Yash 100%
@Yash Dw, it's almost 2 months now (54 days) and it's fine af. Have fun with your new mac!
@Yash Just follow what I said and you should be fine dw
@Yash Macbook's don't need to be shut down often, just shut the lid and you're good to go
With most other lithium powered devices, charging slower actually is healthier for the device. Why is a laptop different? I was surprised you said charging slower was bad for the macbook. Can you please clarify?
My 2009 mid-year MBP has been on constantly for at least the last 5 years plugged in and charging since the battery was replaced (running external monitor only). Battery shows 98%. Never unplugged/discharged/cycled unless the power went out. Gets at least 6 hours of use a day.
In the last 13 years it's been ON far more than OFF.
What about when it gets to 100%?
I use my MacBook everyday but the tasks I need from it aren't that taxing for the M1 pro chip. So I just charge the battery when it gets low and avoid charging it overnight to prevent overcharging the battery.
in one of your other videos you said "charge it using the slowest charger especially if you do it overnight". So, which of the two opinions is right then?
How is charging slower worse for the battery? If it's simply less amps but proper voltage, I don't see why it would be a problem.
Because he has no clue what he is talking about, and this video is only as good as a fake news.
Charging the battery slower is better, because you're not heating the battery too much and heat damages the battery. Don't take my word for it, look it up, look at other comments.
The 20%-80% rule is also bullshit, it was true 20 years ago, but now you're not gonna save your battery by doing that, you're only gonna use it more lol.
@@user-hm7zn6bz4y yeah, less heat is better. I thought the 80% part was not as true. But I think the battery going too low might not be that good. So if possible I plug in at ~20%
A higher wattage adapter results in the mac only drawing the power it needs - it’s a power pull system not power push…
yeah this guy is wrong about almost everything in this video.
Should we charge the MacBook after shutting it down or jus putting it to sleep will do the work better ?
I think you got wrong how electricity and power demand work. Having a higher wattage charger won't damage your battery as the laptop will just extract what it demands from the charger, if is topped to 96W and your charger is 150W, laptop will only demand 96W, that's it. On the contrary, if charger is lower wattage, then yes the charger might be stressed and your laptop will charge slower. That´s it.
I have a Macbook Air M1 which is 8 months old, and I am using it like a desktop machine with a USB-C hub because external monitor and external soundcard connected to it as I am a music producer. I tend to leave it on a charger all the time as the soundcard eats a lot of battery. Unfortunately after 8 months my battery capacity dropped to 92% with only 32 cycles, because I always kept the battery at 100%. I don't know what could be the best solution for this to maintain better battery life, but I think Apple should develop a feature which recognizes when the charger is always plugged in, such as not charging the battery, just using the adapter and disconnect the battery and sometimes leaving the battery to drain.
@Arthur Winer, I have purchased today M2 Air Base model from Authorised Apple Seller here in Mumbai, India. When I got the MBA in my hand, the store guy unboxed it and opened the lid but to my surprise it didn't start until we plugged in. We checked the battery health which was 100%. But this is the first time in my life that the Mac product didn't start after opening the lid. Is it normal or any issue with the hardware? The battery was charging well when plugged in but any idea why such thing must have happened? May there be any battery issue? The date of manufacture is September 2023. Will appreciate your feedback.
Very useful information, thanks for the video!
But there is one advise that I totally disagree with
6:47 "Close the apps that you don't use" - not exactly correct way to operate it. It depends on the app. 'Cos if you use some apps frequently and "Quite" (close completely) it every time that will cause SSD and RAM degradation.
MacOS is clever enough to completely stop the app while storing all the necessary information to quickly boot it up from the hibernation and it's not affect battery anyhow.
as musician its hardly to keep your Mac updated , usually I stay to the system my Mac shipped with , after 3 updates and lost plenty of projects and files it be like that , I update my Mac only by buying a new one
Why would charging slower be worse? Just curious now..
At first you said "simultaneous charging and discharging is not a useful exercise", then you said that is possible and ok to use MacBook always plugged in. Isn't that the same? Always plugged in device that is being used is constantly on power, charging/discharging?
What about when plugged into the external monitor, it needs to be plugged all the time
Nice video, but you brought a good point is just to change the battery if it starts to drain fast.
Due my 2year test charging with the low power, it dramatically extends battery life.
The only important thing is the way your charger works, if this is an pulse charger (same as for phones)- your battery will be killed.
The charger has to be heavy as original one, means it is a constant charger.
So here are misconception in video: its not about power, it's about charging source.
Thank you fo thi valuable information. But are you able to provide a general rule on how to charge and when to charge. Permanently plugged in vs. Plugin now and again. A short and sweet version, the one you are using.
I have iphone 13pro max and after more than 2years battery has 91% capacity and holding very well!!!
My wife has mac book air m1. 30 cycles and 91%. Only browsers plus some documents editing always unplugged.
I don’t think in the end that all of this “care about the battery” has sense,
I've seen conflicting videos and comments all over the internet about plugging in your Mac all the time is a bad practice or a good one? also is it true that battery is best preserved when we only charge it between 20% to 80%?
Well, the main reason of using genuine charger is that it provides stable and sufficient amounts of voltage and current without spikes and drops. Internal circuitry needs stable power otherwise not only a battery but computer as a whole will stop working (power circuit failure). I'm sure there are good chargers out there even if they are not apple certified but how do you know which one is good? For instance your third party charger is underpowered for macbook. This will lead to overheating the charger and as a result of overheating the fire can occur. This is the worst case scenario. Also, seemingly good third party charger is not that much cheaper than the genuine one.
Slower chargers DON‘T hurt the battery! When you charge slower there is less temperature produced inside the battery and this is not bad! In contrast: if you always fast charge your device and the battery get‘s hot that will hurt the battery. Take a 65W GaN Anker charger and charge your Mac and your iPad. You Mac will get around 45W and the iPad around 20W. No problems.
i've done everything you've said in this video for my mbp m1 14". it's been ONLY 3 months and the battery is now at 93% max capacity. i keep it charged and use it opened with an external monitor. i set it to sleep automatically when not in use. my main concerns are, what could i be doing wrong? and why has the battery already dropped so much with only 3 months of usage?? i paid way too much for this machine that is only going to die too quickly on me, it's irritating.
This video is shit. If you leave it plugged in all the time... Install aldente or similar software and set max charge to 50 or 60% that should slow battery degradation tremendously as the electrons are pretty evenly spread between cathode and anode and that takes pressure of the membrane.
Thats crazy. I have a m1 macbook air that I have have for over a year... it's still at 100% capacity. I don't do anything special. I plug it in most of the time. I do plug directly into a usb-port, I do NOT do passthrough charging through a hub. maybe thats just a bad idea.
@@sotoninwhat percent do u start to plug it in? and what’s your usual routine in charging it? kinda scared about mine
@@bernirose2873 When i'm using my laptop it's plugged in. I use it like a desktop. At the end of the night i unplug and put it away. i do nothing special with it. I would recommend only charging with the official apple charging brick just to be safe. I don't use any third party chargers and I do NOT use passthrough charging through a dock or monitor
@@sotonin thank you so much! but i can use extensions to plug it in, right? or i rly need to plug it in on direct outlet?
Microsoft Surface, Asus, and Lenovo have options to charge the battery to 50% for desktop use. Do you recommend a similar 3rd party app on Macbooks used as a desktop?
I didn't understand a thing. I will keep it simple. Plug the charger when battery is low.
It's been 6 months since I bought M1 pro 16inch. Now, cycle count is 36 and capacity is still at 100%. I mostly keep it plugged in all the time. With optimized charging, charging stops at 80%.
is there a specific percent you let your macbook battery drain then charge it ?
@@ilovetwdg Normally, I don't have to because I only use it plugged in all the time. but I heard it's good to sometimes drain battery to 20-30% and then fully charge it again.
So battery stays at around 80% most of the time. but sometimes optimized charging doesn't kick in. One workaround I find is that if the charging doesn't stop at 80%, let it charge to around 90% and then pull the plug. Plug it in after 5-10mins. This way optimized charging kicks in again and then battery drains to 80% and stays at that level.
It's weird but I just wish they give full control over optimized charging to the user. I don't wanna use 3rd party so it works for me like that.
I’ve also got a MacBook Pro 16. Might sound like a dumb question but how do you know the optimised charging stops at 80%?
Hmmm. You said it’s okay to plug in the device while in use. I work more than 8 hrs a day. So is it safe to plug it for that long? Thanks a lot
Still using my MacBook Pro from 2012 with it's original battery and it keeps working fine. Can easily use it for 1-2 hours on battery power alone. Battery has always been charged to 100%.
@Yash It's always plugged in when I use it, from beginning to end. I suggest people to use their MacBook in a normal way, without thinking about charging strategies. Just enjoy your machine and it should last 8+ years in normal use cases.
Charging to a 100% is very counter productive. Try software like aldente to limit maximum charge to like 80% or even lower.
@@jurgor8661 Why exactly? My battery still works fine after 10 years of using. After 10 years it's probably time to upgrade anyway. Charging to 80% is only important in cars.
@@jeadventurous5497 I agree. All this battery optimization stuff is overthinking it for the vast majority of people. Just leave it plugged in until the level you're personally comfortable with. As long as it lasts the better part of a decade, you're fine because it will be time for an upgrade anyway. There are too many hardware and software upgrades over time to reasonably keep these machines as your main one for the rest of your life (and probably much more important things to worry about lol).
1000 Cycles for Li-Ion batteries ok but the new silicon MacBooks have Li-Po battery, and the 1000 cycles drop to almost 600.
I’m not sure your statement about a power adaptor “giving too much power” is based on anything in reality. The mac will draw the current it requires, it will not overdraw.
Based on my experience do not use Max always plugged in. This can increase heat and increase damage
Meh. not true with apple silicon. I have my m1 macbook air on power most of the time and it's been a year now and capacity is still at 100%
2015 MacBook Air here - one owner. Mostly plugged in at desk = get 4h non-stop use on battery 🪫
My MacBook Pro 14” is always plugged in to the Apple charger I got with it. It seems like MacOS manages my battery. I use my MacBook mostly as a desktop. Apple keeps it at 80% and tells me my MacBook is rarely used on battery. Do I need to discharge it to 50% every two weeks, then top it up. Or is keeping it at 80% okay. Shouldn’t my MacBook tell me that?
I used macpaw to clean all the old files and when I did it deleted actual files that I needed to run my mac seemlesly. I thought the software would let me know that I needed those files.
You're wrong about using a charger that can supply more power than the MacBook needs. These laptops use the USB-C Power Delivery standard for charging, even the with the MagSafe charger. What that means is that there is a chip in both the cable and charger as well as the laptops ports that performs and handshake with the cable/charger and tells it the max current to send to the laptop. It literally cannot send too much power. It will also refuse to charge if the adapter does not meet this specification. You do need to watch out for cheap Chinese chargers though as these will often lie to the system to bypass the protections and allow the charger to work. As long as you use quality aftermarket chargers/cables such as the ones sold by reputable companies like Anker it is perfectly fine to do. I just wouldn't use anything under around 65 watts. However you can use your cellphones charger in a pinch, just shut the system down first.
there is just some flatly wrong information in this video. Charging a lithium ion battery slowly does not hurt it, the computer will negotiate the amount of power that it will take from an adapter so it’s not like you will overpower the USB.
What if you bought the MacBook in another country? Should one only use the adapter?
Only thing that made no sense to me was the examples used as cheap chargers, When those chargers shown where Apple & Anker.
why does charging devices with less watt or slower would damage battery?
He is actually leaving some other facts about lower wattage charging. It is way healthier for the battery to be charged by lower wattage charger when your Mac is not in use, and you can actually use the lower wattage charger when you’re using your Mac doing normal light tasks, as long as your Mac is charging and you’re patient enough to wait a bit longer for it to recharge then there’s nothing bad to use one. Using always with the high wattage would be worse all the time if you don’t need any of those extra wattage to keep your Mac going and working. So kinda didn’t agree with what he said about using lower wattage in that case.
All this guys vids are bullshit. They’re aimed at people who aren’t tech savvy, most comments on here are fake or paid for and almost all his vids are paid commercials for certain apps. More people need to know this.
@@williamfeng6706 If anything, faster charging makes the battery temperatures higher, so it's actually worse for the battery's longevity.
The only thing that is killing battery is temperature. Start from there.
I never travel with my macbook.I use it for music production in my studio and never leaves that table. Isnt it best to just leave the damn thing ALWAYS plugged?
I've seen a bunch of these videos and videos about how to make your MacBook last longer. I think they are mostly rubbish. What kind of shenanigans is it worth going through to get an extra 5% out of a battery? Why would I go out and buy a cheap adapter when one is included when you buy it. If you own it long enough, at some point the battery will need to be replace. When that happens, just replace it.
Is it okay to use Macbook Pro (16") charger (96W) for charging Macbook Air M2 (base model)?
Asked some apple tech in the store, keeping your battery from 20 to 80 is bullshit the more you'll use it the more the battery will be used overtime that's all.
Use apple's charger as the battery has been made in correlation with it, same amount of wattage isn't the only parameter.
At least turn it off once a week for the initialisation of updates and cache.
Be careful of the amount of applications running in the background and the environment in which you're using your laptop, warmth, humidity...
That's it
How about clamshell mode? You're not allowed to unplug it.
I've been using Clean My Mac for 2 years and I love it!
also it loves you:)
what about power banks? is there a recommended brand?
What they should do is add a SOC% limit. The Samsung galaxy s21 has a built in limiter to 85%.
Also this is why I am still using a thick macbook pro from 2011. repairing it is easy
I used my mac book pro 2017 always plugged in. Battery died to 75% its capacity in 380 cycles.
I am using my mbp pro 2019 and charging it when its battery charge drops to 20-40% on meetings or other non consuming tasks, but plugged in when i work using power consuming apps, i monitor the battery temperature, not exceeding 40 C, now i have 300 cycles and 84% capacity. I would say - no difference at all.
Only original changers.
So… what is the sense?
Unfortunately my charging cable smelled like mildew when I opened my brand new Mac Apple is replacing it. Many others have had this stinky problem.
You can austistically try and predict battery life and usage but real world use will often dictate the circumstances as to when, where, and how you charge. The reality is that normal use is not going to cause insane battery degradation. Any laptop will need a battery replacement if you intend to use it beyond a few years.
I have only 500 cycles and my battery has been downgraded to 67 precent capacity and I use a 65 watt anker charger
No one ask before, so i‘am new in the Game i bought my first MacBook Pro. Should i first charge the battery before turn it on the very first time, or can use it out of the box and then plug in the first time at 30% percent or something.
Slow charge is even better than fast charge. Most important is to have good quality charger.
yeah he love to spread misinformation.
The sad part is... i even believe he really believe in his words himself!
Just another youtuber without any technical experience trying to squeeze out the money from youtube.
I've recently bought my first Mac (MacBook Pro M2 Pro) and I haven't used it much but I don't know how its battery health dropped to 97 in just 26 charge cycles. I mean I have 14 pro max and I'm using it heavily for last 8 months and its battery health is at 99.
So its kinda strange how a device that don't use much is at 97% battery health in just 5 months (26 charge cycles) and a device that I'm using very heavily is at 99% battery even after 8 month (probably over 100 charge cycles).
Sorry, but in the first 2 minutes you made a big mistake. You can use a 200W charger even if the MacBook only charges with 30W. The amount of power drawn is controlled by the battery charging circuit and you cannot overcharge and overload.
Is it better to put it in sleep or to shut it down ??
Once every 2 weeks let it discharge from 100 to 50 percent and back
While always plugged in won't effect health of your battery
Healthy to perform a full recharge cycle from time to time
It would be worse for you recharge 200 and go down to 0 percent
It's a beast of a battery cycle
Do Not discharge it Completely
Because value 20- 40 can always recharge to 100 percent
Interrupt charging as little as possible
Try to recharge device at least to 90 95%
Apple knows full-well how to optimize battery usage, but choose not to. Lithium battery lifetime extends ten-times longer when kept between 20% and 80%. That doesn't mean one doesn't occasionally require 100% or occasionally discharge below 20%. Face it, most leave their mobile devices plugged-in nearly full-time, as Apple essentially recommends. Apple could easily have battery settings accounting for this. One such setting might charge only to 80%, unless one taps the battery charge indicator on the status-bar, causing 100% charge? Alternately, folks who need 100% every day, could have that setting (the way it is today)?
Should we shutdown down the mac when we are not using it for 2-3 hrs or keep it in sleep mode?
Beware: Cleanmymac costs $35 but then to "activate" any of the corrective actions it costs another $35 or more!
Great review Is it safe to use an Anker 65w charger for M1 MacBook Air? Thanks
Yes it’s Apple approved brand
I’ve been thinking about buying a LG monitor with USB-C, can I charge the MacBook through there?
Thanks a ton bro...super helpful stuff
So leaving it plugged in...with original charger or Anker...good thing or bad thing ?
I know it wasn't a good thing with Intel processors heating up but with the M1 series those don't heat up much so maybe?
I don't care about the battery...
I charge upto 100% , even i forget removing charger for 2-3days which means i overcharge it.
I have 87% battery health after using mac air m1 for 2yrs.
It still has awesome battery.
2days ago i switched to mac air m3 and following the same rule...
"I DONT CARE ABOUT THE BATTERY"
😂
you cant overcharge macbooks lol. it just stops charing when it hits 100%
@@divid_ its a good news for me
stressful 4 year use VS carefree 3 year use.
i would go for the latter
stressful? Which stress when using AlDente? Especially AlDente Pro?
I got soon 150 cycles on my 2021 16" battery. mostly used between 40 and 70% charge on battery and also a lot limited to 50% on desktop/clamshell usage. Still 100% battery health, but soon its dropping (according to coconut battery which shows already 99,6%) to 99%.
Also, i barely used the 140W power brick... in fact often im using the 140W for my iPhone Mini (where i really dont care about the battery and is anyways limited to 15 or 20W) and my MacBook Pro gets charged nearly exclusively on a 45+18W 65W Dual Output mobile power brick.
Btw, always charging to 100%, especially from 95 to 100% is literally a battery killer... like this we dont talk about 3 careless vs 4 stressful years... we talk more about 2 years of good capacity and after 3-4 years dead vs good capacity for at least 500 cycles or 5 years and more...
I killed enough batteries in my 2010 15" MacBook Pro (4 in overall, I got on my 2010 model around 3000 charging cycles, and its still working and looking "nice"! What a long lasting machine!) to know what hurts the battery and what not so much, next to a lot of LiPo/LiIon experience in many usecases!
@@harrison00xXx yeah bro, i agree with you. There are always those who wanna optimize everything, trying to squeeze last bit of juice. That effort itself is stressful or in other words, another thing to care about. Rather than trying to make my MB last 5-10 years, i would just simply forget all those things and replace the battery after 3 years or i might replace macbook with M5 chip? haha
@@HaewonJeong-s7e Well, considering upgrades arent possible anymore (or not really reasonable), the future will show its more replaced than upgraded/reused, especially with memory on a chip and Apples stategy of limited RAM/storage...