Does Your Quad Have the Death Wobble?!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ส.ค. 2020
- I dig into the problem my 1999 Honda 400ex is having.The death wobble is horrible on this quad. Let's fix it. #Honda,#Wheelwobble, #Sketchy,
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It looks like the aarm lower balljoints .it looks like it could definitely be tierods
Ur best bet is to do the aarms too think wat yr that is those r the original aarms i have the same problem with my 01 400ex it is probably a combo between those
I think running them at like 12 to 15 PSI is much safer. Just saying
My warrior is faster
Wheel bearings
Don't just look at the tires for alignment. Measure them, you should have a slightly toe in measurement. If 1 tire is straight but the other is maybe a inch in you will have a wobble. Reset the rods to have an equal measurement on the front center and after center of the tires. From there, do you toe in. Only do half adjustment per tire due to having to do the same on the other side to match it. Its a little tedious but it may help you.
i agree, i thjink its out of alignment
@@slimsqde7397 yea. did you see the bent tie rod. lol
@@Inkedup128 yea it was bad
It’s the ball joints I could see them move when you shook the tire
When you wiggled the right side tire and moved a lot, could be your ball joints are worn out. I would look into replacing those
TIRES. Dude someone put fix a flat in it and it sat for a long time and it hardend and settled to one side. Spend 80 bucks on GBC 22x7-10 tires for the front. and that will fix it. If not you need new tires anyways... GBC xc masters are awesome tires for cheap on amazon.
@Pack Money yes. However atv tires Dont need to be balanced that im aware. However sometimes they can get flat spots from sitting and fix a flat turned into a small puddle sitting to one side of the tire. Then the tire will wobble at high speeds. NEW TIRES will fix it.
Go with the sunf’s 100 bucks for 2. 6ply
@@jordanseger both are good but I have ran my gbc xc Masters all summer and they look brand new. Awesome tires. And walker Fowler runs them. guys the ultimate test for tires.
But I thought the point of Joes channel is to show that you can get a quad or bike cheap and fix what you need and flip it. I don't think wants to start throwing things on it if he's not sure if it needs it. But you never know. Tires could have something on them, especially with them being OEM (Especially 20 year old tires)
I was gonna say the same thing
Front end has multiple issues
Wheel bearings probably on the way out
Bent tie rod can put alignment out
And worn shocks really amplify the problem
Fix remedy those three and I’ll bet you ain’t got the DTs after that
Spot on bud 🤘🔥
Wheel bearings, rod ends, alignment. Shocks and shock bumshings usually dont cause much of an issue. Small movements by hand translate to big movements while riding. Get a low pressure gauge and dial the air pressure in especially on the rear or one side will push. Like I said small things have a big impact
I'm having same issue on my 1988 Honda FourTrax 250X I know this video is old but I replaced wheel bearings and am still having the same wheel wobble I noticed the a-arm bushings seemed a little sloppy but if you figured out what this issue is please tell me so I could try and get my problem solved also thank you
Wondering if you have another quad in the garage you could swap front tires with same bolt pattern to see if wobble goes away ??
Ok Joe. Quick tests to perform.. this is for cars or atv’s, go carts, whatever has independent front suspension.. jack up the front end, grab the wheel top to bottom and wiggle; this is balljoint test. Then grab wheel on left and right sides; this is your tie rod test. You look at your suspension components as you do this test. If there is play, there is your culprit! A bad wheel bearing will be evident in both tests.. this isn’t always full proof but for simple design suspension like the one you are dealing with it will give you loads of info!! Best of luck! Keep wrenching brother!! 🤙
I have a 99 honda too. It smokes also but not as bad as yours was. Mine also wobbles some too. But not bad as yours. Im probably going to have to do the same things soon that you are doing. Love the chanel it has helped me alot. Thanks
Death wobble can be caused by either the upper/lower ball joints Or tie rod ends and connection at the steering shaft and wheel bearing preload.
Joe if you have an extra set of front wheels/tires from your stash throw the on....my bet is a bent wheel or fix a flat or tires have flat spots from sitting.....keep up the great work brother 👍👍👍
Tie rods steering stem bearings also ball joints bushings in the a arms.
dwalker2431 yeah it would be nice to get a look at that lower steering stem bearing. He didn’t give us a good look at that.
I seen play in steering stem . and ball joints wheel bearings
Good call
I had the same problem with my 400ex one of the rims were bent causing it to shake
Awesome video man
Part of the issue is you need to Do an alignment on it. Set the handel bars straight and measure from the outside of the left front to the outside of the right front. Do that on the rear of the tires and front. Once you get the back and front to the same measurement, set the front a touch in. Also the wheel bearing are part of the issue too
I had the same issue with mine and I added about a cup of antifreeze used in tractors to both front tires and it stopped the wobble
It’s your rims I’m having the same problem with my 700 raptor!
Would love to see you rehab a Raptor 660. They were only made from 2001 to 2005. Dual carb torque BEASTS.
Can you do a poping wheels video were u do it sitting down and in which gear you do it on btw I love your vids I have the same quod as you
Raptor 700R?????
Right front had slop in lower ball joint. And both bearings could use new bearings. Then check the toe in should be about half inch less from tire to tire in front then back side of tires. Center handle bars and adjust tie rods
Great vid!
Is say it's the tires since you lowers the pressure and it made a diffrence oh and wheel bearings.
Good. Luck Joe
Well you tried anyways. Hopefully it just is the bearings. I've seen others saying loose tie rods or something 🤔 too... Keep us posted. Do you still have the Polaris 400? You and Chuck should race that and this when she's all better...
It could be unbalanced wheels or bent rims i had one bent rim on my ltz400 and it was doing the same exact thing
Dude you can HEAR the wheels bearings from "here", do that first, also de-bead the tire and see if there is mud in there, or green slime.. After that, anything bent will do it...
what go pro are you using?
Change the wheel bearings also but there's more to it.
Awaiting front shocks for a 400 Polaris does same thing worn empty stock oil shocks finished off by previous owner
Wobble can also be from wheel slime in tires. Take out valve stems to see if slime in front tires
Also I would check to make sure the front rotors isn't warped or maybe a rim. Thanks for the video.
Might need a lower steering stem bearing replacement or tie rod ends replaced
Imma take a wild guess so it might be the wheel bearings need to be replaced and you might need a wheel alignment i crashed my outlaw and the same thing happened i needed wheel bearings and an alignment dont know if this will help in anyway but even after fixing my bike its got a little death wobble
Check for actual wheel warp vertical wise, ive seen it cause stuff like this, also can adjust the tie rods
What if my motor shaking when I drive it ?? It jerks hard til where the chain keep popping any idea
Who clicked on this as soon as it came out?
I did i think i was the first like on it thats what it said on my end but i could be wrong tho lol
Ronnie Williz I was the second to like that is what it looked like on my end but idk
@@dwaynethecrockjohnson634 nice 😁 hes a good dude with a good heart.
Me
Ronnie Williz thanks man
Usually wheel bearings are more likely to cause drag. If the shocks are worn out, it will combine with that problem.
No death wobble from my ATC 250R
Its funny how my 34 year old fourtrax which is more clapped than his quad doesnt wobble either😂😂
ahahahha that is already a death machine
To do an easy alignment. Strighten handle bars measure the distance between the center treads with a tape measure. Then measure 180 degrees away on the back side. They should be pretty close if not your alignment is off. Definitely replace those wheel bearings and like another comment said it could have fix a flat or slime in the tires thatd definitely cause an issue. You can get new tires pretty cheap on ebay for like 80$ a set if you want something decent.
Could it be the Springs ( One more compressed more than the other ? Just a thought )
Also out of Balanced wheels
Forgive me if I am wrong here but do you think when you have a problem with the front end that you cannot diagnose you might suspend the wheelies. That's a lot of force slamming on the ground with two atv tires and all that weight on the front end.
Hey Joe, Cycle Needs Chris here.. you can definitely tell the alignment is off on that left side cause as you saw, it was bent. Replace that tie rod and your bearings and you should be ready to rock..
Hey Chris I ordered to bearings and I'm going to do an alignment tomorrow! Hoping that will fix it!
Yeah the bearings should definitely fix it..
If your planning on keeping it I would order some used TRX450 shocks makes a big difference
Have you tried looking at your axle to see if it was bent u whould the the wobble form the back
Great comments today!!! Also make sure the rims arent bent! To bend a tierod like that, had to be a big crash! 😆👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍also- u have spare rims- try them!
Alignment and shock sag height and tie rod ends being loose or bad bushings is what I ran into when I was racing but a wheel bearing could be bad
Nice videos!
I have the exact same quod ass you and I cant pop wheeles sitting down so can u do a wheele video and in what gear you do it on
Did you check the ball joints?
your front u shafts where its attached to the body theres 2 bearings on each side watch if those r ok
I'd just freshen up the front end with new bearings and ball joints, I really wonder what kind of damage the ball joints took after a hit hard enough to bend a tie rod.
Maybe the tire or tires are off balanced enough to do it or a bent rim?
Looks like the upper and lower ball joints on the Aarms and tie rod ends
Rear axle bent? Any of the wheels bent? Lift the rear and run it, to check.
Do a front end alignment mess with the tie rods toe it in or out.
To check your a arm bushings you have to unbolt the shock or use a prybar, even if there is a worn bushing you wont feel it by just shaking it a bit with your and with the shock pushing against it
Dude don’t forget when doing wheelies your rear break is your best friend!
Chech the (tie rod ends) joints on the front upper and lower (tie rod ends) joints i had the same problem, i replaced the (tie rod ends) joints and the wobble was gone, also re alaign the steering otherwise the joints will break down soon again. Greetings from the Netherlands p.s. a car uses almost the same technique. Good luck
make sure when u jack it up u put a piece of wood or something so it doesn’t roll backwards
If he would have put it in gear it would not roll as well.
That quad is almost mint, besides the seat cover and pipes. Awesome
I would check to see if the wheels are not bent. Balance the tire and wheels. Check ball joints. You’re good at fixing stuff and I’m sure you’ll figure this problem out. You have that quad running good bud
No death wobble in the front, but I did find out I bent my axle today 😑
Hi i just look your video and im a mecanics jack stand your front suspension and check if your wheel is bent or maybe water in it and check if your axel is bent too
Are your front tires backwards?
Replace wheel bearings and take off the tire and shock and check a arm bushings real good it also maybe a possibility a rim has a bend in it
Front end alignment and those bearings.
Looks like someone hit a tree bent your tie and messed up bearing lol
That little bit of wheel play will magnify at high speed an also an check the steering bushings. If you havent already. An weld a sleeve over the stock tie rods thats what i did when i had mine found a pipe just bigger then it an slid it over an welded the ends. Nice job tho.
I have the same 400ex and I had a professional look at mine and he told me the bushing need to be replaced but they will eventually get worse
The slightest amount of play will cause the wheels to wobble. It is those wheel bearings for sure. I have also noticed the big nut holding the hubs loose likes to come loose as well
Could also be the wheel bracket bushings? Alot of the parts have rubber bushings that wear and have slop and squeaking noises
Wheel bearings upper/lower ball joints Or inner/outer tie rod ends possible control arm bushings
Buy the tire pressure gauge by tusk the one I got is $17.99 and there’s a cheaper one without the hose thing for $11.99. Well worth it.
Hi I love your videos
I have a 2005. My rear wheel bearing was out and caused my wobble.
I was gonna make the same comment but didn’t cuz I realized this is 2 yr old video and I’m sure u know all that stuff.thanks for pointing that out too.
What do I have to do for you to get me a bike and fix it
Mines got a similar wobble but mines all wheel drive so I think that has something to do with it .I’ve never felt that on any 2wd quad
Even the small movement could cause it it’s the clicking sound that will tell if the bearings gone in it Wich I heard on clutch side
Quad looks mint the seat makes it look bad
Do all the front bushings and besrings
Try a arm bushings that was the problem on mine. Good luck
I think a repair manual should be bought if you want to keep this one. And second I would check every fastener on that front end. Also take the front end apart piece by piece and inspect/lube/tighten back to spec. Didn't a few of the older Honda quads have a steering dampner up on the steering stem ? Just below the handlebars hidden under the plastics? And if all else fells Joe, Sell the thing to me. Im sure I would have fun figuring it out. BBBrrraaappppp !!!..
Nice video what model is it
Handle bars man
I run 4 rear 5 front for casual trail riding and a little mud
Been sayinng this since he first rode qaud i was right sgain track rod or tie rod ends however u wanna call them but over steering stem bearings etc
Check and make sure the hub is tight as well as the tire rods
Have you thought about wheel balancing?
Your tires are out of balance. They either have slime in them or fix a flat that is on one side. They need to be balanced. Could use bearings too.
My 200es big red wobbles terrible. Not sure what’s the issue
(Edit) im at the end of the vid. Just like the other guy said steering shaft is bent or like i saod check the bushings or bearongs on the steering rod an wheel bearings are it too but the steering bushings or bearings will wear out the wheel bearings as well.
I would say it looks like your tie rods ends. And for the wheelies you need to keep you rpms lower get to your balance point sooner and switch to the next gear.
Had bad wheel wabble on my predator 500. Turns out the tire was half full of water.
Your front wheels might be out of alignment
Someone please reply to this can you tell that one A arm is hanging lower than the other and If you look one has RC sticker and the other one dose not possibly it was wrecked and the replaced A arm’s one one side so they could be uneven just a possibility let me know if you guys see it to
What exhaust is on it
Could be a bent rim try swapping out the tires if all else fails. When you jack it up spin the tires and look at them see if they have a wobble
That seems like the castle nut needs to be torqued down on the wheel hubs
At 14:52... Is that wheels bent/oblong?