@@호꿈 ARES targeting is nutty. It effectively triples the Goliath's damage output if they're firing on Armored air units, and doubles it against Light air units. Either way, it dramatically increases their overall damage output, and keeps that damage in a pretty condensed package. That was 40/60 supply of Goliath(depending on WoL or CoOp mission variants, I believe other than Supply count they are virtually identical) taking on 85 supply of Marine/Liberator, whose army also had nearly 50% higher mineral cost and over double the Vespene cost of the Goliath army. *Goliaths are pretty bad in 1:1 resource ratio engagements against pure air or pure ground, but can often overperform if given a fight against air/ground mixed forces* Tya, I'd like to update my triple-race-unit comp request to have Zealot-Goliath-Corruptor take on Void Ray-Marine-Zergling
Fenix may be sharing his Dragoon body with a fish, but he sure is a badass taking those Yamato shots like a boss. Also did not expect Goliaths to win. The siege time for the Liberators saved them XD
For anyone wondering, Fenix's line about "I think I saw a _fish_ in here!" is a reference to SC2 Immortal unit icons. They have a rare animation where a goldfish will swim by them inside their tank.
This video more than any other shows how important flanking is. Primal guardians were owning until the marines finally made enough forward process to flank, and the Marauder Commandos were trading evenly with the Infested Razorbacks until they gained the flank upper hand. Keep up the great vids!
Sovereigns win that matchup pretty hard. They have like 200 more HP base, and AtX does 10 damage base, as opposed to 5 for AtA. Yamato does even the odds, but not enough to overcome that deficit. Then mini yamato cannon is, well, a yamato cannon, but for every shot. BCs aren't particularly good against yamato cannons.
Mini Yamato 3 shots with 200(+20) damage. They have 3 base armour( 6 max). AtA on the BCs do max 8 so thats 2 damage a shot to Sovereigns assuming 3-3. Sovereigns have 900 hp and the auto attack does 18(+2). You could do a 10 vs 30 maybe with yamatos but like 10 vs 100 without
The Goliaths caught me off guard, I also got kind of excited at first because I thought it was 1000 marines vs Dehaka itself, this hasn't been done, has it?
@@sephirothjc I'm not sure that any quantity of bio ground units can kill Dehaka. His devour replenishing his health, combined with his powerful anti ground AOE specials sweeping away anyone that might be near enough to hit him means that he may very well heal faster than the units can damage him.
@@xanderbackus447 bio ground can absolutely delete dehaka. Normal marines vs a super fed dehaka on the other hand... not so much. Example of bio that can kill dehaka - mass nova marauders - each does 100+ on first attack and then sustained decently high damage, nova ghosts, each does 170 snipe damage, though you do need quite a few ghosts. Holo decoys, because holo decoys are op. Honestly just infinity raynor marauders might also do the trick. Maybe zagara's and stet's banelings with a large enough number, because banes op.
I'm pretty sure the main reason those Battlecruisers lost is because a lot of them jumped out instead of firing their yamato... You can definetly see a lot of the BCs trying to charge their yamato when coming in for the second time after their hyperspace just only to get blasted to bits before it's ready because they're only at half health. I feel like those tactical jumps hurt way more than they help
That slaughter of Marines was astounding for how powerful those Primal Guardians are. The Marauder fight was awesomely close and the Goliath winning again? That had to be fluke lol
Goliath shines when enemies are using an air/ground mix. Multi-lock weapons means they have some of the highest effective DPS in Starcraft against mixed compositions. Even adjusting for cost and supply, they out-dps stimmed marines (if the air unit is armored, at least- marines slightly outpace them when the enemy air is all light units).
@@Ramusculus thanks. I haven't play Starcraft for 6 years. Never played coop and only now heard there's a thing called "ladder", will have to read about it.
Easiest 5/5 of my life incoming despite not knowing much about any of these units primal guardians probably have high enough base armor to win this marauder commandos are kind of cracked if I remember correctly from previous videos I almost always bet on heroes This is kind of a meta call but goliaths have been winning a lot so I think it's time for an L I assume Kaldalis is another hero, so I'm betting on them I'm ready for my 0/5
Kaldalis is, in co-op lore, a Legionnaire (one of two Purifier zealot variants, the other being the Sentinel) outfitted with an AI based on a warrior named Kaldalis (the one-eyed zealot shown in the Legacy of the Void cinematic opening). He is one of Fenix's six champions, but despite the uniqueness of the champions, is not, in fact, a heroic unit. All champions have a bonus ability that the base unit does not have. In co-op proper, if Kaldalis dies, he "takes over" the body of a nearby Legionnaire and continues fighting. This affects two of the abilities common to all champions: Tactical Data Web (powers up champions based on the number of other Legionnaires a player has in their army, up to a maximum of 20 supply) and Avenging Protocol (champions are buffed temporarily when they die and take over a new body). Two of Fenix's prestiges actually focus on champions specifically. P2 is a prestige that powers up the unique abilities of champions based on TDW, allowing a P2 Kaldalis to have a cleaving attack that deals hundreds of damage per swing. (For comparison, 1 Kaldalis can beat 2 brutalisks attacking him at the same time) P3 is a prestige that makes champions weaker, because you want your champions to die repeatedly due to massive buffs to Avenging Protocol; this allows a P3 Kaldalis to have a theoretical 700 DPS with attack speed mastery. (Kaldalis never reaches anywhere close to 700 DPS in practice; even at no mastery Kaldalis hits the limits of his attack animation, resulting in greatly reduced damage ouput). Because of this, P2 and P3 are sometimes known as the "Carbot zealot prestiges" - one for when Kaldalis is dealing massive damage, one for when Kaldalis is comically flailing away at enemies, both resembling a Carbot zealot.
Wow. I was not expecting the Goliaths to pull that off. I thought it was going to be a one sided sweep for the Marines + Liberators.
Me too.. His ability which attacks ground and air units at the same time was more effective than I thought.
@@호꿈 ARES targeting is nutty.
It effectively triples the Goliath's damage output if they're firing on Armored air units, and doubles it against Light air units.
Either way, it dramatically increases their overall damage output, and keeps that damage in a pretty condensed package.
That was 40/60 supply of Goliath(depending on WoL or CoOp mission variants, I believe other than Supply count they are virtually identical) taking on 85 supply of Marine/Liberator, whose army also had nearly 50% higher mineral cost and over double the Vespene cost of the Goliath army.
*Goliaths are pretty bad in 1:1 resource ratio engagements against pure air or pure ground, but can often overperform if given a fight against air/ground mixed forces*
Tya, I'd like to update my triple-race-unit comp request to have Zealot-Goliath-Corruptor take on Void Ray-Marine-Zergling
Too big gap between marines and liberators
Pretty sure it was the positioning and the lib's derping.
Always bet against Liberators
Fenix may be sharing his Dragoon body with a fish, but he sure is a badass taking those Yamato shots like a boss. Also did not expect Goliaths to win. The siege time for the Liberators saved them XD
Goliaths be like: twice the enemy, twice the dps!
Its so distracting that his voice actor is clearly Alarak’s
For anyone wondering, Fenix's line about "I think I saw a _fish_ in here!" is a reference to SC2 Immortal unit icons. They have a rare animation where a goldfish will swim by them inside their tank.
This video more than any other shows how important flanking is. Primal guardians were owning until the marines finally made enough forward process to flank, and the Marauder Commandos were trading evenly with the Infested Razorbacks until they gained the flank upper hand.
Keep up the great vids!
wildly more epic and close fights than I thought they would be.
Sovereign BCs vs normal BCs would be a decent matchup, one with their normal guns and another with their mini-yamato guns.
Add pride to that match up as well with their triple splash yamato
Sovereigns win that matchup pretty hard. They have like 200 more HP base, and AtX does 10 damage base, as opposed to 5 for AtA. Yamato does even the odds, but not enough to overcome that deficit. Then mini yamato cannon is, well, a yamato cannon, but for every shot. BCs aren't particularly good against yamato cannons.
Mini Yamato 3 shots with 200(+20) damage. They have 3 base armour( 6 max). AtA on the BCs do max 8 so thats 2 damage a shot to Sovereigns assuming 3-3.
Sovereigns have 900 hp and the auto attack does 18(+2).
You could do a 10 vs 30 maybe with yamatos but like 10 vs 100 without
Goliaths can attack air and ground at the same time with the upgrade
that fenix quote at the end screen, hilarious
It's one of the click quotes from heroes of the storm.
The Goliaths caught me off guard, I also got kind of excited at first because I thought it was 1000 marines vs Dehaka itself, this hasn't been done, has it?
MMM essence flows. I follow.
Not sure if it was more, or less marines, but yes, there is a dehaka vs mass marines video.
@@flamerollerx01 I must've missed it but surely 1k marines should be enough, right?
@@sephirothjc I'm not sure that any quantity of bio ground units can kill Dehaka. His devour replenishing his health, combined with his powerful anti ground AOE specials sweeping away anyone that might be near enough to hit him means that he may very well heal faster than the units can damage him.
@@xanderbackus447 bio ground can absolutely delete dehaka. Normal marines vs a super fed dehaka on the other hand... not so much.
Example of bio that can kill dehaka - mass nova marauders - each does 100+ on first attack and then sustained decently high damage, nova ghosts, each does 170 snipe damage, though you do need quite a few ghosts.
Holo decoys, because holo decoys are op. Honestly just infinity raynor marauders might also do the trick.
Maybe zagara's and stet's banelings with a large enough number, because banes op.
I'm pretty sure the main reason those Battlecruisers lost is because a lot of them jumped out instead of firing their yamato...
You can definetly see a lot of the BCs trying to charge their yamato when coming in for the second time after their hyperspace just only to get blasted to bits before it's ready because they're only at half health.
I feel like those tactical jumps hurt way more than they help
I loved how the battlecruisers were teleporting, it made it seem like there was more coming into the fight.
That slaughter of Marines was astounding for how powerful those Primal Guardians are. The Marauder fight was awesomely close and the Goliath winning again? That had to be fluke lol
4/5
Lost on the goliaths vs marine/libs - absolute chad unit.
Another Goliath win, a breakthrough!
I bet the goliath caught everyone off guard, the man pulled it off
Goliath shines when enemies are using an air/ground mix. Multi-lock weapons means they have some of the highest effective DPS in Starcraft against mixed compositions. Even adjusting for cost and supply, they out-dps stimmed marines (if the air unit is armored, at least- marines slightly outpace them when the enemy air is all light units).
Dehaka can’t keep getting away with this! He’s just too powerful
Finally, my first 5/5 since I start watching this channel.
I can sense pure gigachad energies emanating from that Goliath...
Marauder Commandos and Goliaths came out clutch!
Marauders made me worry for a moment
4/5 I did not expect bc to lose against that model Fenix. What a beast
10 Kaldalis slashing 300 zealots was impressive. Purifiers are epic.
I wonder if Avenging Protocol was active when there's no regular friendly Zealots on the side?
How about some Mengsk Royal Guard battle?
man the terrans stomped this video!
What is the mod/map you use?
That Goliath D: A true Hero
That one hero Goliath. Dual attack remains useful - they'd have died to either just double either opponent.
You should show the remaining value of the units that survive to show how inefficient the trades are😊
Holy crap that goliath upset!
Infested Diamondbacks are like ground Void Ray yet they cannot beat the power of armor-piercing rockets of Marauder Commandos
I think I saw a fish in here. Omfg lol
Man for the guardians to mow through that much fully upgraded marines is OP. I like the Adrenal Glands mutation but Leeching would had fare better.
5/5, That Goliath one was close though.
Guardians, Diamondbacks, Fenixes, Marines+Libs, Kaldalises (whoever they are)
kaldalis is the angry zealot
Is too difficult to look around in coop?
You do realize that there isn't just ladder, right?
@@durshurrikun150 many people don't currently play starcraft, and many who do DON'T play coop. some don't play ladder, either.
Kaldalis is the last zealot from the LotV opening cinematic
@@Ramusculus thanks. I haven't play Starcraft for 6 years. Never played coop and only now heard there's a thing called "ladder", will have to read about it.
Kaldalis? Who is it???
Liberators failed because they took the time to put the Goliaths at the very center of their aim, that was their doom.
Next battle:
Nova's ghost 1000 vs Dehaka 40
How many raptorlings does it take to kill dehaka and Kerrigan
Even infinity raptors won't kill both I think, they heal too fast
I think there's a chance but it will be 1000 plus for the harder variennts
Easiest 5/5 of my life incoming despite not knowing much about any of these units
primal guardians probably have high enough base armor to win this
marauder commandos are kind of cracked if I remember correctly from previous videos
I almost always bet on heroes
This is kind of a meta call but goliaths have been winning a lot so I think it's time for an L
I assume Kaldalis is another hero, so I'm betting on them
I'm ready for my 0/5
Everyone got wrecked by the Goliath. Again.
4/5, not bad.
Kaldalis is, in co-op lore, a Legionnaire (one of two Purifier zealot variants, the other being the Sentinel) outfitted with an AI based on a warrior named Kaldalis (the one-eyed zealot shown in the Legacy of the Void cinematic opening). He is one of Fenix's six champions, but despite the uniqueness of the champions, is not, in fact, a heroic unit. All champions have a bonus ability that the base unit does not have.
In co-op proper, if Kaldalis dies, he "takes over" the body of a nearby Legionnaire and continues fighting. This affects two of the abilities common to all champions: Tactical Data Web (powers up champions based on the number of other Legionnaires a player has in their army, up to a maximum of 20 supply) and Avenging Protocol (champions are buffed temporarily when they die and take over a new body).
Two of Fenix's prestiges actually focus on champions specifically. P2 is a prestige that powers up the unique abilities of champions based on TDW, allowing a P2 Kaldalis to have a cleaving attack that deals hundreds of damage per swing. (For comparison, 1 Kaldalis can beat 2 brutalisks attacking him at the same time) P3 is a prestige that makes champions weaker, because you want your champions to die repeatedly due to massive buffs to Avenging Protocol; this allows a P3 Kaldalis to have a theoretical 700 DPS with attack speed mastery. (Kaldalis never reaches anywhere close to 700 DPS in practice; even at no mastery Kaldalis hits the limits of his attack animation, resulting in greatly reduced damage ouput). Because of this, P2 and P3 are sometimes known as the "Carbot zealot prestiges" - one for when Kaldalis is dealing massive damage, one for when Kaldalis is comically flailing away at enemies, both resembling a Carbot zealot.
@@runtergerutscht4401 3/5
@@sebastjankrek1744 I wasn't posting my own score, just commenting on this guy's prediction
What is the Liberator's ability?
Creating an area of denial that will shoot on any enemy ground unit that walk into the area with huge damage
dude woulda gotten my 4th 100% but the liberators had to derp and the goliaths actually won? what?
Ugh, the one time I bet against solo marines. I've betrayed myself this day.
2/5 :/
Unit brawl-the low FPS edition
despite the bad sieging from the libs, i guess comeback is spelled g-o-l-i-a-t-h
Just goes to show how broken and awesome primal zerg are if 50 guardians could reduce 1000 marines to 85
Never bet against Feenix. Ever.
MVP 1 Kill
4/5. 80%
I'm getting better at these.
I will keep commenting on here until I see dehaka lose ✨
goliaths are beasts
5/5👍
So generic versus units using skins associated with co-op units... this can get confusing.
2/5
4/5
Score: 0.000 🥺
4/1 norm)))
2:30 how 3 goliats can beat 7 marines and 4 liberators?? this is non sense, goliats must be hacked xd
4\5. Primal guardians was an really disappointment.
2/5 :(
0/7 Damn, im a fking noob
2:45 go Akhundelar!!!
3/5