We found it easiest when installing the new coilovers on the rear to make sure you install the bolt that goes through the end link first (14 mm). That will save you a lot of aggravation.
Too bad torque specs are wrong, most of em. Like rear bottom strut is 52 and those arm bolts are 69. Nothing is 88 in the back. Ppl cannot read manuals/comprehend what they read.
Learned the hard way that they in fact should not be torqued to 88ft lbs. Now a weekend project is turning into a week long project cause the dealer doesn’t carry either of those bolts on hand. The front is incorrectly marked as well, should be 114ft lbs from the service manual, NOT 145.
Just installed these. FYI, in the video it looks like he had an aftermarket lower control arm. If you have stock, you’re going to want to take out the far right bolt, bolt holding in strut, and end link
i know your advertising the factionfabs in this video but, could you do a comparison between all the coilovers on the subispeed site, make recommendations and tell us which ones you would prefer personally. i've been looking at the tien flex a's but im not sure what to go with
Fantastic video - definitely look like some quality coilovers! I only wish they had a spring rate somewhere in the middle. The F-Spec seems like it may be too soft for occasional track days and likewise FR-Spec too rough for daily driving. I could be wrong though...
When doing testing we settled on these rates for the F-Spec as it was a great compromise for street comfort and occasional track day performance. Unless you are running an aggressive track day oriented tire that is 200 tread wear or lower, the tires will be the limiting factor. We found that with your average performance summer tire, the F-Spec coilovers on a stiffer setting performed quite well. As we had to make a compromise on the spring rate as going much stiffer then that on the F-Spec would have resulted in a need for more aggressive valving, which would have taken away from allot of the shocks performance on the street in terms of comfort and compliance. On the FR-Spec we didn't want to go much softer as it would have had an opposite effect and the shock would not have worked very well in the stiff setting and would have not performed as we intended for them to perform on the track. In addition, the shock is 32 way adjustable, and you will be quire surprised how much adjustment it actually has. Even making 1-2 click adjustments on the track and street made a noticeable difference in the dampers performance. You will be quite surprised how well the F-Spec actually do for a Street coilover and how nice they ride on the street. The FR-Spec are track oriented an do have ride quality compromise on the street in exchange for track day performance.
Why are the torque specs so high for the rear lower control arms? What kind of metal are those bolts made out of?! Taking a look at 12:50 and starting from left to right of the Whiteline Sway Bar Support Brace, the torque specs should be: Whiteline Support Brace: 59 ft-lbs Rear Endlink to LCA: 28 ft-lbs Coilovers to LCA: 59 ft-lbs Hub to Coilovers: 59 ft-lbs These are the factory torque specs that the factory components and many aftermarket coilovers and LCAs use, fwiw.
When I installed mine the coilovers was so far away from the LCA , so I just Jack it up until it meets the coil because it looks like that would put a lot of pressure on the end link
@@raco3054 grab a torque wrench from habor freight or go to snapon and grab a digital torque wrench for like 150$ a very needed tool when trying to install parts correctly:)
In the picture at the end, is that the lowest height setting they go? I thought I heard you mention you set it to the lowest setting. I’m interested in purchasing these
To add to what SubiSpeed said. The FR-Spec don't go as low as the F-Spec coilovers due to design differences. The F-Spec will go about an additional 1/8" lower in the front.
I see that you are removing RCE SS1 coilovers and replacing them with these Factionfab ones. Was there something wrong or that you disliked with the RCE SS1 being they are more expensive and on paper better?
Nice video, in planning to get some coilovers soon, but can you ship me first what i ordered before i buy again, kinda taking a while to get product and nobody responds to my email too
So noob question, are those just for lowering the car or do they also provide better handling than the stock parts. If I'm only interested in better handeling is something like this what I need to look for or am I mixed up with something else?
Nice video! I've actually been looking to get a set of coils and was looking at the tein flex z's for that lower entry price. Now that this is out, idk which one. Any input on which is better to get?
I watch your guys videos simply to avoid all of these other "hype boi" videos on TH-cam.. so many idiots doing installs in parking garages, with no light, doing it incorrectly, or half of their video is showing off their buddies car who just "rolled up" to shitty music.. lmao.. Thank you guys for these.
Okay. I get them installed myself, i get an alignment and all that. And then come winter time when I put my winter tires on and want to raise the car a bit, do I need to get an alignment again after raising/lowering the coilover?
You have the wrong rear end torque specs. The specs you have in the rear are for the 08-14 wrx. 2015+ are 60 ft/lbs for the lower control arm and coilover bolt.
Hello. With the ride height that you guys set it at in the video. How much does it drop the car from stock ride height? Also, would I be able to get this properly aligned without purchasing additional suspension components?
@subispeed I’m not sure I i did something wrong on my install .. I installed coilovers on 19 Wrx and the passenger side rear is maxed out but the driver side rear can still go lower with out maxing out
Hi, I’ve recently just installed a set of fr spec coilovers on my 19’ wrx and made sure the preload is tight and had the 5mm gap, but it’s making a clunking noise. What could it be?
will you guys keep selling 2015+ wrx parts after the new generation in 2021?, i am thinking about picking up a 2019 wrx but i want access to your website for years to come
Hi just got these coils. How do you know how to measure the 20mm for the drop? I am trying to max out on the drop for front and back? Advise ? Thank you
The car comes with a bit of camber adjustment in the form of an eccentric bolt stock. As for caster, most coilovers systems don't offer caster adjustment as it isn't a huge deal until you get into more intricate setups.
Wrong torque specs. Completely damaged my rear control arms and the lower mount to my coilovers. I notified them with their misinformation and they pretty much said kick rocks.
In no way am I trying to critique this video, it's full of the right info. But every time I take off, clean/adjust and reinstall my coilovers I always wonder which way those two 19mm bolts are supposed to face. In this video, you took them out and installed them in two different directions. So does it matter or not?
It does matter. Ideally you would want the bolt side towards the front of the car and the nut on the rear, that way if the nut does back off and ever come off there is a better chance that the bolt will stay in place, however, some coilovers only allow for the camber bolt to be installed one way (which is why it's installed the way it is in the video) due to the fact that only one whole is slotted.
Anybody using factionfab stuff yet? Seems like a pretty decent Coilover. Especially with 10% off for under $800! Just don’t wanna end up wasting my money you know
We pride ourselves on quality as our #1 priority. These coilovers have been tested in a very wide range of environment from high heat and humidity, to frigid winters and salt. The testing including things like winter and summer track days, salt and corrosion spray tanks, and 3rd party independent testing of materials. As a testament to quality we use steel, seals and valving imported from Japan, and damping fluid from Italy because we wanted to offer what we believe is the best product for the money. Because of this, we are confident enough in our products to offer a 1 year warranty on our suspension system. We opted to keep pricing reasonable and competitive, to allow a wider range of customers to have access to our product instead of charging more for no reason. The price point might be affordable, but these units are by no means cheap.
FactionFab love the response and the belief you have in your product but you’ve sent me the same response word for word 3 times now. I’m looking for a first hand user review other than someone saying good product before I spend my money.
@@factionfab5834 Appreciate your response. I'm looking at your coilovers as well. My concern is that you website lacks contact information email / telephone etc. Understand that you have a 1yr warranty. In case something is wrong, who should we contact? Subispeed?
@@jackylo3416 Reason we don't list contact information is that we do not sell direct to consumers. We work close with all of our distributors and any warranty would be handled directly through them and they will work with us. We do apologize about the site, we are currently working on an alternative solution that better represents the products.
@@factionfab5834 appreciate the feedback & prompt response. Also noticed some vendors listing the F-Spec as out of stock. I assume it ships from FactionFabs disti warehouse. Any idea on lead time if I placed the order today?
We found it easiest when installing the new coilovers on the rear to make sure you install the bolt that goes through the end link first (14 mm). That will save you a lot of aggravation.
Nice video. Glad you provided Torque specs. Most installs forget these important things.
Too bad torque specs are wrong, most of em. Like rear bottom strut is 52 and those arm bolts are 69. Nothing is 88 in the back.
Ppl cannot read manuals/comprehend what they read.
Learned the hard way that they in fact should not be torqued to 88ft lbs. Now a weekend project is turning into a week long project cause the dealer doesn’t carry either of those bolts on hand.
The front is incorrectly marked as well, should be 114ft lbs from the service manual, NOT 145.
Just installed these. FYI, in the video it looks like he had an aftermarket lower control arm. If you have stock, you’re going to want to take out the far right bolt, bolt holding in strut, and end link
These camera angles are on point!💯
elite video, took me under 2 hours to install my front and rear coilovers because of this vid
Seriously...who is the ONE idiot, who disliked the video!?!?!?! Can’t get any more informative than this! Great video!!!!
REDHOT WRX-E! Now 3. Probably some trolls that know everything and feel they can do a much better job
It’s dislikes are people that drive Honda’s fart cans ricers
Torque specs are GREATLY appreciated! 👌
Awesome vid. I was wondering how to fine tune the height without having to take it back apart. Seems obviously simple now.
i know your advertising the factionfabs in this video but, could you do a comparison between all the coilovers on the subispeed site, make recommendations and tell us which ones you would prefer personally. i've been looking at the tien flex a's but im not sure what to go with
Fantastic video - definitely look like some quality coilovers! I only wish they had a spring rate somewhere in the middle. The F-Spec seems like it may be too soft for occasional track days and likewise FR-Spec too rough for daily driving. I could be wrong though...
When doing testing we settled on these rates for the F-Spec as it was a great compromise for street comfort and occasional track day performance. Unless you are running an aggressive track day oriented tire that is 200 tread wear or lower, the tires will be the limiting factor. We found that with your average performance summer tire, the F-Spec coilovers on a stiffer setting performed quite well. As we had to make a compromise on the spring rate as going much stiffer then that on the F-Spec would have resulted in a need for more aggressive valving, which would have taken away from allot of the shocks performance on the street in terms of comfort and compliance. On the FR-Spec we didn't want to go much softer as it would have had an opposite effect and the shock would not have worked very well in the stiff setting and would have not performed as we intended for them to perform on the track. In addition, the shock is 32 way adjustable, and you will be quire surprised how much adjustment it actually has. Even making 1-2 click adjustments on the track and street made a noticeable difference in the dampers performance. You will be quite surprised how well the F-Spec actually do for a Street coilover and how nice they ride on the street. The FR-Spec are track oriented an do have ride quality compromise on the street in exchange for track day performance.
@@factionfab5834 F-Spec it is then... good thing the birthday is coming up!
Best walkthrough video I’ve seen!
Why are the torque specs so high for the rear lower control arms? What kind of metal are those bolts made out of?!
Taking a look at 12:50 and starting from left to right of the Whiteline Sway Bar Support Brace, the torque specs should be:
Whiteline Support Brace: 59 ft-lbs
Rear Endlink to LCA: 28 ft-lbs
Coilovers to LCA: 59 ft-lbs
Hub to Coilovers: 59 ft-lbs
These are the factory torque specs that the factory components and many aftermarket coilovers and LCAs use, fwiw.
When I installed mine the coilovers was so far away from the LCA , so I just Jack it up until it meets the coil because it looks like that would put a lot of pressure on the end link
Thanks for torque specs!!! Now I don't have to ask a million questions haha
How can you measure torque specs when you tighten them bolts up?? Sorry just new to a car scene. TIA
@@raco3054 grab a torque wrench from habor freight or go to snapon and grab a digital torque wrench for like 150$ a very needed tool when trying to install parts correctly:)
@@joeholloway3641 noted! Thanks for that info bro. It really helps a lot esp to us guys who are new to modifying our cars. :)
@@raco3054 anytime man!! Don't want your wheels to call off or your lcas drop on you
@@joeholloway3641i wish it actually cost 150 for a snapon🥺
In the picture at the end, is that the lowest height setting they go? I thought I heard you mention you set it to the lowest setting. I’m interested in purchasing these
Yes that is the lowest setting.
SubiSpeed awesome, thanks for the quick reply
To add to what SubiSpeed said. The FR-Spec don't go as low as the F-Spec coilovers due to design differences. The F-Spec will go about an additional 1/8" lower in the front.
I see that you are removing RCE SS1 coilovers and replacing them with these Factionfab ones. Was there something wrong or that you disliked with the RCE SS1 being they are more expensive and on paper better?
Says to torque everything down and put the wheels on but shouldn’t those bolts be torqued with vehicle at full weight to not stress the bushings?
You installed the bolts on the opposite side of where they were installed in the old coilovers ;)
Some aftermarket coilovers only allow the bolts to be installed one way as they use the same mounts on both the driver and passenger side.
Nice video, in planning to get some coilovers soon, but can you ship me first what i ordered before i buy again, kinda taking a while to get product and nobody responds to my email too
I will have a customer service rep get back to you as soon as possible.
that 20mm wrench hack, chefskiss
wish you guys do this for the forester 2014-2018
I love these how to videos! Please keep em comin!
would love to see an el header install on the sti
So noob question, are those just for lowering the car or do they also provide better handling than the stock parts. If I'm only interested in better handeling is something like this what I need to look for or am I mixed up with something else?
How come u put the 19mm bolt on opposite direction as taken off ?
Hey @subiespeed what rotors are those? Also nice vid this was really well made. Hope to see more of theses in the future.
www.subispeed.com/2015-subaru-wrx/brakes/big-brake-kits/ap-racing-competition-brake-system-sprint-2015-wrx-simple#.XUl7EOhKirw
Nice video! I've actually been looking to get a set of coils and was looking at the tein flex z's for that lower entry price. Now that this is out, idk which one. Any input on which is better to get?
Thank you, mine were so undertightened it made my wheels squeak and squeal like a bishh
I seen you said 20mm on the front is it the same for the rear
These compared to HKS Hipermax?
Sooo how much of a difference do coilovers make over stock wrx shocks
Did you do 20mm for the front and the rear?
I watch your guys videos simply to avoid all of these other "hype boi" videos on TH-cam.. so many idiots doing installs in parking garages, with no light, doing it incorrectly, or half of their video is showing off their buddies car who just "rolled up" to shitty music.. lmao.. Thank you guys for these.
Okay. I get them installed myself, i get an alignment and all that. And then come winter time when I put my winter tires on and want to raise the car a bit, do I need to get an alignment again after raising/lowering the coilover?
Extremely informative video. Thanks for putting all that info up.
You have the wrong rear end torque specs. The specs you have in the rear are for the 08-14 wrx. 2015+ are 60 ft/lbs for the lower control arm and coilover bolt.
Hello. With the ride height that you guys set it at in the video. How much does it drop the car from stock ride height? Also, would I be able to get this properly aligned without purchasing additional suspension components?
Maybe you can help me out any coilovers for 2019 Subaru Ascent. Thanks
Are torque specs universal for all coilovers on this model subaru wrx?
@subispeed I’m not sure I i did something wrong on my install .. I installed coilovers on 19 Wrx and the passenger side rear is maxed out but the driver side rear can still go lower with out maxing out
Yes! Thank you.
Hello. Been wanting to buy a set of coils for comfort. Is this good for that?
Just bought a new/used 2015 wrx. Any idea how to replace an oil pan when there’s a turbo in the way?😅
where did you guys look up the specs for the torque ? i did the 88.5 on the rear and snapped the bolt, i feel like it’s too much
Do you have to cut the bumb stop?
Subispeed Please provide box weight of this product for estimate shipping cost. Thanks!!!
Hi, I’ve recently just installed a set of fr spec coilovers on my 19’ wrx and made sure the preload is tight and had the 5mm gap, but it’s making a clunking noise. What could it be?
Lost me at eyeing camber settings. Or does that have to do with the torque specs?
If you watch closely, when you turn the camber / eccentric bolt, the hub will move in or out.
If Already have coil overs and want to raise the car 1" would I need to get an alignment?
What is the torque specs on the light something for rear
Do I need to get aftermarket endlink?
will you guys keep selling 2015+ wrx parts after the new generation in 2021?, i am thinking about picking up a 2019 wrx but i want access to your website for years to come
Yes of course!
Did you go 20mm for both front and rears?
Hi just got these coils. How do you know how to measure the 20mm for the drop? I am trying to max out on the drop for front and back? Advise ? Thank you
whats the suggested ride height for street and track?
Really hopeful video thanks love those coilovers
I think the Torque specs are wrong. Should be 59ft.lbs. not 88.5.
Amortiguadores para modificar completamente la estabilidad de esta bestia
Does it matter either forward or aft when you insert camber bolt on front?
I gave the top mounting bolt to many ugadugas, should I be okay?
Thanks again for video and all info
What’s the 2019 STI stock coilovers ride heght?
Four times now- I’ve had to replace wheel studs. Tire shops and dealership keep stripping them.
th-cam.com/video/qfHCA-Q7Uq0/w-d-xo.html
Subaru wheel studs seem to be too soft compared to other manufacturers. We always have trouble on our Outback, but never on our Honda or Toyota.
@subispeed..what if I have a OEM sway bar? The front coils are camber adjustable, but the rears aren't
what do coil over things do?
12:41 145FT LBS? i've read it's only 114 ft-lbs.
two minute tuesday video recommendation. How to use Google maps using Subaru Starlink
Nice vidéo
what size wheels/ tires? Sorry if you mentioned in video must've missed it
18x9.5 +38 255/35/18
What was the blue bracket in the trunk that connects to the top of the coilovers? It looks like part of a roll cage.
That is a cusco x brace.
www.subispeed.com/2015-subaru-wrx/cusco-rear-cross-strut-brace-2015-wrx-2015-sti#.XUi04VNOnqs
Thanks for the video!
No caster or camber adjustments, does this affect anything when getting an alignment?
The car comes with a bit of camber adjustment in the form of an eccentric bolt stock. As for caster, most coilovers systems don't offer caster adjustment as it isn't a huge deal until you get into more intricate setups.
SubiSpeed Just the information I needed to confirm my purchase. Thank you
Great video! Everything you need and nothing more.
Are these better than HKS hipermax S? or whats the best around price 1700 bucks. Reliability and longevity
Ohlins would be a great choice
Can you put up a link for that wing setup and tag me please? Shit looks dope!!!
www.subispeed.com/varis-carbon-fiber-gt-wing-2015-wrx-2015-sti#.XUmOsuhKirw
Another great video! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Wrong torque specs. Completely damaged my rear control arms and the lower mount to my coilovers. I notified them with their misinformation and they pretty much said kick rocks.
In no way am I trying to critique this video, it's full of the right info. But every time I take off, clean/adjust and reinstall my coilovers I always wonder which way those two 19mm bolts are supposed to face. In this video, you took them out and installed them in two different directions. So does it matter or not?
It does matter. Ideally you would want the bolt side towards the front of the car and the nut on the rear, that way if the nut does back off and ever come off there is a better chance that the bolt will stay in place, however, some coilovers only allow for the camber bolt to be installed one way (which is why it's installed the way it is in the video) due to the fact that only one whole is slotted.
Sweet
Tq specs are wrong
Rear bottom strut is 52
Rear arm bolts are 69
And link is 28.
Front strut is 145.
Why did they go up so much in price
Joe Biden
You guys are f@#$% awesome!
It pisses me off how this guy doesn’t interact with the comment section
Anybody using factionfab stuff yet? Seems like a pretty decent Coilover. Especially with 10% off for under $800! Just don’t wanna end up wasting my money you know
We pride ourselves on quality as our #1 priority. These coilovers have been tested in a very wide range of environment from high heat and humidity, to frigid winters and salt. The testing including things like winter and summer track days, salt and corrosion spray tanks, and 3rd party independent testing of materials. As a testament to quality we use steel, seals and valving imported from Japan, and damping fluid from Italy because we wanted to offer what we believe is the best product for the money. Because of this, we are confident enough in our products to offer a 1 year warranty on our suspension system. We opted to keep pricing reasonable and competitive, to allow a wider range of customers to have access to our product instead of charging more for no reason. The price point might be affordable, but these units are by no means cheap.
FactionFab love the response and the belief you have in your product but you’ve sent me the same response word for word 3 times now. I’m looking for a first hand user review other than someone saying good product before I spend my money.
@@factionfab5834 Appreciate your response. I'm looking at your coilovers as well. My concern is that you website lacks contact information email / telephone etc. Understand that you have a 1yr warranty. In case something is wrong, who should we contact? Subispeed?
@@jackylo3416 Reason we don't list contact information is that we do not sell direct to consumers. We work close with all of our distributors and any warranty would be handled directly through them and they will work with us. We do apologize about the site, we are currently working on an alternative solution that better represents the products.
@@factionfab5834 appreciate the feedback & prompt response. Also noticed some vendors listing the F-Spec as out of stock. I assume it ships from FactionFabs disti warehouse. Any idea on lead time if I placed the order today?
Pro tip, buy a punch or, All. Don't hit bolts with a hammer to get things aligned. YOU WILL DESTROY THREADS
Depends on the bolts, these are very solid bolts that have taken the abuse of us uninstalling and installing them plenty of times with no damage.
@@SubiSpeed just saying. Would be better not to take the chance. Great video though.
@@Apes_love_BMX no doubt if you take your time you can get it to lineup with no issues!
Yep stripped my lower front strut bolt when i was installing bags
@@devindesue3175 Sorry to hear that man.
You see what happens Subiespeed?
Do you see what happens when you f@$! a stranger in the A!@!
Now if these motors just could be built with better structural rigidity and robustness of a paper wasp nest, than the suspension might matter.
Is the 4mm preloaded same for front and rear?
Do I need to get aftermarket endlink?