How to Properly Set Up Coil-overs

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 พ.ค. 2024
  • We don't often get technical with our videos, but I've spent so much time setting up my suspension for the last few years that I felt like you all might appreciate an in depth look at setting up suspension.
    These are the coilovers that I got for my civic:
    fortune-auto.com/coilovers/dr...
    If you're looking to learn more about some of these topics, check out these resources:
    Setting bumpstops -
    honeddevelopments.com/bumpsto...
    Roll Center correction -
    honeddevelopments.com/suspens...
    Bumpsteer -
    honeddevelopments.com/honda-c...
    Motion Ratios -
    deltavee.net/2013/10/wheel-ra...
    Setting up control arms -
    professionalawesome.com/the-d...
    Corner Balancing -
    • What Is Corner Balanci...
    Music
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    “Grenadine” - Neon Beach - XVXKSSMVF7BZLWWK
    “Clone Credits” - Neon Beach - EKJEX3EMENVTL0KO
    “Take a Breath” - JeesGuy - 3P0BFQIAIOFXXJA6
    “Finessed” - JeesGuy - DBFXYNFCSDD93GCU
    “B Side” - Nu Alkemi$t - KFFS8VAGFOBF97QP
    “Sky Trails” - Nom Fabriqué - 3DAJ0YSAY6KWMOTQ
    00:00 - Intro
    01:07 - Coilover Options
    03:12 - Compression and Rebound
    05:00 - Installing the Coilovers
    05:49 - Setting Ride height
    07:20 - Setting Bumpstops
    10:36 - Compression/Droop Ratio
    12:06 - Corner Balance
    12:50 - Alignment
    12:58 - Conclusion
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  • @devinherndon56
    @devinherndon56 ปีที่แล้ว +326

    Momma I made it 🙌🏾 in all seriousness, I’m happy you’re on our suspension finally and the results speak for themselves!

    • @zoetice433
      @zoetice433 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Damn devin ahaha um 😳

    • @devinherndon56
      @devinherndon56 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@zoetice433 huh ? 😅

    • @thelifeofguyon
      @thelifeofguyon ปีที่แล้ว +3

      our boy!

    • @N3RV001
      @N3RV001 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He's been on Fortune for years?

    • @devinherndon56
      @devinherndon56 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@N3RV001 nope, he was on Ktuned prior. Tall Ben has been on our suspension for a while

  • @stimofo808
    @stimofo808 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Good work on explaining the complexities of proper suspension setup. I’d say 80% of slammed car owners don’t understand this and another 10% of owners don’t do this.

    • @justinguarino201
      @justinguarino201 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If anyone understands it, it is going to be the slammed vehicles lol. Considering they have to account for chassis swap to not buckle or crush a body panel.

  • @juddy953
    @juddy953 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Finally a channel that shows the correct way to set up coilovers 👏

  • @emilionaranjo5894
    @emilionaranjo5894 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thanks for being that car channel that best describes my interests within the car community. You guys are phenomenal. It’s been a trip, I’ve been watching since the escort and the progress speaks for itself…

  • @jasond126
    @jasond126 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Keep these type of track technical video coming 👍 ❤️

  • @therealboofighter
    @therealboofighter ปีที่แล้ว +23

    This channel has come a long way from working on your turbo escort. Great to see the progress.

  • @MattGreenland
    @MattGreenland ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Good job going through this all! Definitely one of the clearest videos for teaching how to setup 2 piece coilovers with goodninfor to take to one piece coilovers. Will be sharing as a demonstration of how to setup suspension.

  • @dee1089
    @dee1089 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    really wish you guys would do a in -depth series on this technical stuff that no one on yt talks about. you know,, in your usual way and not in front of a chalk board. it would be very educational; for those whom dont have the connections for this type of reliable info locally.

  • @KutsugeMindUrmoks
    @KutsugeMindUrmoks ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love this civic. Excited to see where it goes once you decide to go higher class again!

  • @chuck6652
    @chuck6652 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I absolutely love it when you guys do the work on your vehicles yourself! Loved the video!

  • @arvin_arn
    @arvin_arn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the very few youtube channels that goes over the correct way to setup coilovers! Great video as always!

  • @kid.failure
    @kid.failure ปีที่แล้ว

    Great resources. Huge fan of what you guys do. Much love!

  • @RSKev
    @RSKev ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fortune auto is great, and Devin is a huge help for dialing in my setup!

  • @JJBanuelos
    @JJBanuelos ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This couldn’t have came at at better time! I just literally installed 2 way adjustable Coilovers on my c5 vette & I was wondering how to properly setup them up. Awesome job explaining everything.

  • @pieterv6984
    @pieterv6984 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for this. Interesting. Hope this gets a follow-up on the track with some explanation about what you notice and how you adjust.

  • @jdmkidk24
    @jdmkidk24 ปีที่แล้ว

    Think I need to watch this again because it’s so good and redo my simple 1 way coilovers. Amazing video

  • @ShakotanZero
    @ShakotanZero ปีที่แล้ว

    Can’t wait to see the changes with the new suspension

  • @along_for_the_ride_uk
    @along_for_the_ride_uk ปีที่แล้ว

    great explanation on everything! broke it down nicely! really enjoyed this one

  • @DREWlanning
    @DREWlanning ปีที่แล้ว

    Great episode! Been waiting for this one for a while.

  • @IdEk5627
    @IdEk5627 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally someone made this video. So many people dont know and dont really show how to set it up out of the box.

  • @Just_Wanna_Drive
    @Just_Wanna_Drive ปีที่แล้ว

    Without a doubt, this is the best coilover setup video in the history of TH-cam. I'll see you in Club TR next year! 🍺

  • @cc2321
    @cc2321 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally a proper guide for coilover install!

  • @helpmerunaway2651
    @helpmerunaway2651 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the content guys,,,love from kenya 🇰🇪

  • @natinaga82
    @natinaga82 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excited when mine arrives

  • @psewgobind
    @psewgobind ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice seeing the science behind suspension travel. If done right, double wishbone’s ability to toe out is going to create some magic.

  • @fabianmendoza61
    @fabianmendoza61 ปีที่แล้ว

    These videos make my saturday mornings

  • @kumakaroshi117
    @kumakaroshi117 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the information, thank you for the time and effort

  • @weresonic11
    @weresonic11 ปีที่แล้ว

    A nice glaze over it but still informative to those who don't know. Can't wait to see the ZX2 get a set

  • @J.Galvao76
    @J.Galvao76 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video...... for sure i have to see it more times as i custom fit some coils to my car
    Thanks Ben

  • @Lastsight100
    @Lastsight100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    MY FA500s show up this wed! I'm really excited.

  • @backnunAndy
    @backnunAndy ปีที่แล้ว

    Your project civic car is getting faster as well as becoming prettier than ever before!

  • @tortuga34
    @tortuga34 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great explanation, thanks Ben. Makes me wonder how much better can suspension tech get? Interesting stuff for sure.

    • @opiatool
      @opiatool ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Maybe not much better with current materials and design mindset but new technologies and materials science could radically change how cars and suspension works.

    • @bilaltariq7819
      @bilaltariq7819 ปีที่แล้ว

      A LOT better with race dampers, and then even more with mode decoupling

    • @lancercool1992
      @lancercool1992 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      new cars coming out like iphones no one's got time to do proper r&d

  • @JFlogerzi
    @JFlogerzi ปีที่แล้ว

    This will be helpful when I go to get my new dedicated track setup

  • @MrMirofl
    @MrMirofl ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey thanks for all the valuable information!

  • @seewithsam
    @seewithsam ปีที่แล้ว

    Guess who just joined a Motorsport Engineering course. This is great help.

  • @fixinbrokevws9959
    @fixinbrokevws9959 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great info and great video 👍

  • @initialdluvr
    @initialdluvr ปีที่แล้ว

    I can never focus on your topic when you're working on the Civic because I'm too busy admiring that Civic. That generation Civic hatchback has such a timeless design in my opinion.

  • @ll.7927
    @ll.7927 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro love your car. Bought a shirt the other day. Trying to set my car up for road racing.

  • @the_jarmel
    @the_jarmel ปีที่แล้ว

    👏👏👏👏👏 HAVE A BEAUTIFUL WEEKEND EVERYONE

  • @faithisinyou7988
    @faithisinyou7988 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I learned something today sweet!

  • @IBmotive
    @IBmotive ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Proper video. Few points to add; Tbf it doesn’t make whole lot of sense to first set the spring perch heights(rideheight) b4 setting the full compr setting since you’re gonna adjust it anyway, this way, you can save some time by installing coilover directly, without a spring.
    And every tire is different from another, for example 195/50/15 ar-1 vs 195/50/15 R888, there is a 7/8mm height difference in the tire. (Even some width) This means that the tire will hit the chassis in full compression..
    And the bumpstop will compress more than what you’re able to do with the cars weight & lifting the wishbone & coilover to check bumpstop travel. For example at foxhole in nurburgring, there can easily be 2G’s. It’s a good measure to factor in a 5mm extra space between tire & chassis if you really dont want to rub in ANY situation.

  • @NotNow293
    @NotNow293 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Finally! Suspension made by an actual suspension company.

  • @florian_montuzet
    @florian_montuzet ปีที่แล้ว

    It was very very very interesting !

  • @Planexpert90
    @Planexpert90 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's sitting in your lap while you're in the driver's seat, showing the corner balance on the scale display? Ballast of some sort? I initially thought it might be your helmet/race suit, but it looks like it's attached to the steering wheel, so I'm not sure what I'm looking at! Great video, as always. Love that you're giving us this level of technical detail, it's great to see how much thought goes into making a fast car that tenth faster.

  • @artblackwood7936
    @artblackwood7936 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great information.

  • @anotheryoutuber2463
    @anotheryoutuber2463 ปีที่แล้ว

    droop is joy!

  • @juice992
    @juice992 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great info!

  • @toycoma98
    @toycoma98 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, where do you set the compression and rebound knobs on the shocks at? Set it in the middle as a starting point?

  • @hmmhuh12
    @hmmhuh12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    God damn. My man is running the dreadnought. Tell me your suspension is more expensive then your car without telling me.

  • @TM-fx5le
    @TM-fx5le 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At 9:30 , are you also changing the preload of the spring?

  • @CorbinSikes
    @CorbinSikes ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, so out of curiosity how/what did you use to mount the canister? Just got my coils and was wondering if you had any tips :)

  • @Elmanret
    @Elmanret ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the most important part is the camber and toe adjustment, I saw you doing it but not explained, off corse that can be dial in the track with a infrared thermometer.

  • @MrUnicornsinmycereal
    @MrUnicornsinmycereal ปีที่แล้ว

    Serious question here!
    Ik there are tons of factors when it comes to spring rates but looking for a good rule of thumb for a fwd track car. Do you want neutral spring rates or a stiff bias to front/rear? For context my car is front heavy 60-40,lowered, big rear sway bar, cambered -2,-1.5 with .01 toe out front and rear. Any help is appreciated as theres so much personal biased info but i want facts.

  • @emicmoto
    @emicmoto ปีที่แล้ว

    nice that you show the alignment for 8 seconds

  • @aprl
    @aprl ปีที่แล้ว

    do these suspension setup tips apply to all cars in general or are specific cars different?

  • @jasond126
    @jasond126 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nee clarification. When setting the ride height for 50% compression and 50% droop do you adjust the spring perch or the shock perch?

  • @ChristianLikesFootball
    @ChristianLikesFootball ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do you want to lower the shock body and utilise the bumpstop (have the bumpstop compressed) inlieu spring compression? Most coilovers are height adjustable at the lower collar and using the strut lower cup. I just wanted to know why the need to utilise the bumpstop and not the springs to prevent bottoming out?

  • @MRMAN-wb1tv
    @MRMAN-wb1tv ปีที่แล้ว

    *Virginia in the house!*

  • @CarlosFlores-dy4sk
    @CarlosFlores-dy4sk ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi what kind of spring rates are you running with the roll center correction?

  • @werewolfpixies123
    @werewolfpixies123 ปีที่แล้ว

    How would you adjust bump stop height on independent suspension?

  • @atthelimit88
    @atthelimit88 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you feel the K-swap FRS\BRZ will end up taking over this class? Seems all that chassis needed was a better engine.

  • @michaelsanders5938
    @michaelsanders5938 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now you know. And knowing is half the battle!

  • @michaelsanders5938
    @michaelsanders5938 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Uhhh....Professor Ben, starting at 4:21....willl this material be on the next test?!?

  • @walterharris6191
    @walterharris6191 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you guys coming to gridlife in Colorado?

  • @kelbaez
    @kelbaez 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hey Ben, are you running Helper springs or Tender/Assist Springs?

  • @buttdyno
    @buttdyno ปีที่แล้ว

    2:00 travel before bind is also a pretty relevant detail when selecting coilover springs (though not much difference between the Hypercos and Swifts here). Also, do the springs actually test out at their stated rate?

    • @TJPDmember
      @TJPDmember ปีที่แล้ว

      Swift springs are load tested :) i dunno about the other.

    • @bilaltariq7819
      @bilaltariq7819 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stick em in a shock dyno

  • @Newbenwindowcleaningcom
    @Newbenwindowcleaningcom ปีที่แล้ว

    I have bc racing with 32 damper setting , should I put super hard or on 16 17 click for track day ?

  • @squadcars5896
    @squadcars5896 ปีที่แล้ว

    this video was good

  • @harrisonmorin616
    @harrisonmorin616 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yay my morning poop held out 😂 best shit to wake up to.

  • @N911GT2
    @N911GT2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here we go again. Little Ben doing a commercial and wrapping it as ‘content’.

  • @fengrr
    @fengrr ปีที่แล้ว

    so when would you swap spring rates?

  • @jamesk3565
    @jamesk3565 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn so I already missed you in Jersey

  • @NotUrDJ
    @NotUrDJ ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Now that's some great sponsored content

  • @Darkon90210
    @Darkon90210 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hilarious question, but what lug nuts are you running?

  • @michaelsanders5938
    @michaelsanders5938 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 5:00......really like the LoFi background music.

  • @jackweta
    @jackweta ปีที่แล้ว

    good to see you gave up on those ktuned coilovers. check corner balance when turning into a corner dependant on caster

  • @calebzorn1613
    @calebzorn1613 ปีที่แล้ว

    When is the k swap glow up coming for the escort?

  • @KingENDLESS
    @KingENDLESS ปีที่แล้ว

    Following this series to help build my teams Passat endurance race car. Please help

  • @spencersgarage
    @spencersgarage ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want the most comfortable ride coilovers I can get for my daily driven ‘91 Civic hatch. As for ride height, I’m not looking to be slammed, again this is a daily driver so a little lower than stock is preferred. Currently my Civic has Tein progressive lowering springs with Bilstein struts. All other suspension components are Hardrace with hardened rubber bushings. So which coilovers and brands do you guys suggest for the most in comfort?

    • @growingup4487
      @growingup4487 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      tein z and soften the springs and dampers and you're good

    • @neonovember7023
      @neonovember7023 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Entry level kW suspension show do

    • @spencersgarage
      @spencersgarage ปีที่แล้ว

      @@neonovember7023 are KW comfortable though?

  • @FreakySquid515
    @FreakySquid515 ปีที่แล้ว

    Take a shot every time he says “a little bit” lol

  • @iansharpe8420
    @iansharpe8420 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    million dollar question, don you regret going full race car? was it more fun while it was simple? curious moreso than anything. great video as always

    • @miguelaguilera6601
      @miguelaguilera6601 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I mean considering he just tracks the car and never uses it on the road I expect him to not regret it at all. Especially considering its a FWD car. FWD cars really do completely transform when given full racecar spec. Also keep in mind that going full racecar allows him to get creative considering the class he is in, and obviously this is great for the YT channel. I don't know what his personal views are but I think he's done the right thing going full track tool on this one. And obviously the Honda platform is more than ideal for that

    • @miguelaguilera6601
      @miguelaguilera6601 ปีที่แล้ว

      don't mind my English.. not native

    • @iansharpe8420
      @iansharpe8420 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@miguelaguilera6601 I get that, and your english is good! I just wonder, is the fun of hopping into a car and ripping up the canyons missed. I'm sure track days are massive fun, but a massive headache too. The finacial aspect must be daunting as well

    • @miguelaguilera6601
      @miguelaguilera6601 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iansharpe8420 I sure miss the canyon days. Honestly I want them to finish the Mr2 Toyota engine swap build and the K swap S2000 build and do some canyon runs... I think once they are done with both of those cars which I would say it'll take them 10 months.. they should do a nice road trip. Something like east to west or north to south or diagonally crossing the country

  • @ImpalaSS08
    @ImpalaSS08 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    When they’re free of course you’ll choose the Dreadnaughts. 😂😂😂

  • @justinguarino201
    @justinguarino201 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How do you know by “feeling” I don’t get that lol. Like if I’ve never felt it before how do I know if it is correct or not

  • @sir3nz478
    @sir3nz478 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What are your spring rates for rear?

  • @jessehill3780
    @jessehill3780 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s funny because isn’t fortune one of the coilover companies that say to adjust ride height with the lower collar and cup and not with preload? I do agree making sure your tire and arms don’t hit sure makes a lot of sense but I think fortune is one of the companies who say don’t adjust preload for ride height.

  • @Chris_Nation4_Rally
    @Chris_Nation4_Rally ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching Gears and Gasoline is like watching weekly Saturday morning cartoons

  • @sooyster4033
    @sooyster4033 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:53 Hi tall Ben...working on next week's video are we?

  • @kingwei1838
    @kingwei1838 ปีที่แล้ว

    Let's Time Attack CiviC!!!!!!!!

  • @JawnCoaltrain
    @JawnCoaltrain ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is this just one giant ad for Fortune Auto?

  • @gushchinica
    @gushchinica ปีที่แล้ว

    Бены! Вы крутые!

  • @JWONG-pu8ky
    @JWONG-pu8ky ปีที่แล้ว

    Number 1 item you need for this job, hydraulic lifts HAHAHA cant imagine the pain doing this without powertools and lifts

    • @MRMAN-wb1tv
      @MRMAN-wb1tv ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually not hard at with a floor and some jack stands.

    • @MRMAN-wb1tv
      @MRMAN-wb1tv ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You know what I take that back you right. Lol. This man taking it all off again and putting them back together

  • @christuem2086
    @christuem2086 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    explain the dialing in process :) That's gonna be interesting

  • @raiuwu
    @raiuwu ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't get over how handsome the fortune auto representative is at the beginning of the video. Like I'm not even gay, bro just has really great teeth.

  • @hyper8545
    @hyper8545 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like fortune auto coils but I also like bc

  • @turbo_brian
    @turbo_brian ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You skipped checking the corner balance after attaching the swaybars. That's what adjustable swaybar endlinks are for. A lot of aftermarket bars aren't perfectly symmetrical and will "wedge" the car a little with equal length swaybar endlinks. Obviously this is a manufacturing tolerance thing so it's possible the bars are perfect, just not likely.

  • @michaelsanders5938
    @michaelsanders5938 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am surprised there weren't any "Let's Check Your Knowledge" mini quizzes throughout the video........

  • @ruru2500
    @ruru2500 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where's the "This video was sponsored by Fortune Auto" banner at the start?

  • @Eggsplanepls
    @Eggsplanepls ปีที่แล้ว

    lowkey had to see if Cameron Hills brz was totalled or not before i clicked on this one 😳

  • @savothkeo1354
    @savothkeo1354 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeeeee

  • @Goodman-4525
    @Goodman-4525 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is MIA still road legal btw