🛠Leatherman was right...but handled it wrong (discussing the Squirt, and other small multitools)
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I think discontinuing the ps4 maybe was too extreme, they could've easily updated it with screws instead of the rivets to make it easy to fix
The original squirt ps4 had torx screws instead of rivets. I have one. Easy to disassemble. Leatherman created the majority of their squirt problem themselves
I own a lot of leathermans. The squirt is maybe my favorite.
The PS4 had screws in some models, I bought one hoping it was one (and was in the product picture) but got a riveted one instead.
Very confused reading this comment under my original impression that OP was referring to the PlayStation 4, then upon reading the replies about screws and rivets, continuing through to the comment about the BOD halting warranty support, I was all of a sudden wondering if Sony has a serious issue with product quality or manufacturing quality.
Imagine my thoughts upon hearing the narrator of this video, while I'm in the middle of being convinced that Sony has issues, refer to the freaking Squirt multi tool line's specific designation "PS4".........
Talk about real time feedback
Edit: oh my god I even skipped an entire comment which would have cleared it up!!
I hope someone gets a good laugh out of my coming up short lolol
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The original squirt ps4 did have screws (torx), leatherman stupidly changed to rivets. I have a torx one. The scissors spring is certainly defective but it could have be fixed. I believe Leatherman created the majority of their warranty issues themselves just with their rivets and their scissors spring.
Back when I was on M1A1 Heavy tanks in the 90s and 00s, we all carried Leatherman multitools and a small fixed-blade knife.
A tank will *eat* a mutlitool as well as any watch that isn't a G-Shock. When the Gerber multitools were first released a couple of us bought them but they never held up and the pliers would always break. After that, the entire tank company swore off Gerber forever and everyone just kept buying Leathermans.
Former M1A1 TC here, I had my Leatherman that I had on my tank from the mid 90’s until a couple years ago when somebody stole it. 😢It was the most useful tool I ever owned, so I bought a Leatherman Surge to replace it. I was really surprised how much they’ve improved from the original tools.
I think if leatherman fixed the bendy scissors issue on the micra I'd be more inclined to carry it. A pliers based micra with just small and medium drivers (no blades) would be a great travel tool to replace the style PS.
Great idea, the whole micra wouldn’t need a redo, just some new tools made to fit
Micra is worth it because of the scissors. Whats your obsession with pliers? Wtf are you going to use MINI PLIERS for???
I remember the Squirt having tiny Torx screws back in the day, until they replaced them. The Micra still has screws. So Leatherman could have put screws on the Squirt. Probably wouldn't have saved it, though. :(
A useful modification i did with my squirt ps4 was turning the tip of the file into a small chisel. I used a course and fine whet stone to grind it to as sharp as I could while keeping the angle broad enough to last. Works great for removing stickers and prying up under thin objects.... felt like sharing 🤷
Nice tip/suggestion. Maybe I will do this to mine sometime.
Nice chisel tip 😂
Never pry with a file......
@nunyafuckinbizniz depends on what you're prying. Rubber gaskets and plastic rivets aren't going to hurt anything.
Hi, I'm very surprised with Leatherman's decisions lately. They can be much more, it's been proven. Here in the UK, Leatherman's warranty is to replace straight away, not to fix. I've had my Rebar replaced twice, the second time smaller flat drive just snapped, easy to replace. But they've sent me a brand new tool. I think the quality of replacement tools is lower, also had the reamer and flat driver swaped places. My wife's Squirt replaced twice, like you've said no easy to fix. But Victorinox is fixing the Swisstools, not replacing. I'm not giving up my Classic SD, I have pliers based tool with me anyway. Cheers 👍
I'm now hearing about this PS4 discontinuation. If true, I really don't know what to say with Leatherman and their never ending bad decisions, I carry that tool everyday, bought it years ago when it was cheaper and I have a backup. Also, it does Not give me confidence that when they have a good/decent product, they discontinue it.
Why not improve the tool, make it stronger & easier to repair.
You are right about the Micra, the scissors suck.
As a pharmacist for walmart, i literally bring my squirt to every shift and BECAUSE I am in a place to do so, I would pre-purchase one if the warranty weren't there.
I feel like Leatherman did this to themselves when the stopped making the squirt with torx screws.
Props for talking about Victorinox Rally. Kinda underrated model, in my opinion. Everyone usually shows Classic in most EDC videos, while in case you don't need scissors, chances are, having a Phillips screwdriver is a lot more useful.
I’ve seen that Nextool is coming out with a mini sailor scissors edition. That’s probably what I will be getting because it does have a small set of pliers for little jobs but that have a great set of scissors as the main implement. I honestly use scissors more then pliers so it seems like a good trade off for me.
Nextool has been doing some interesting things
The mini for me. Very apply with it. Blade should have a slightly better heat treat to stay a bit sharper longer
@@Robin6512 i honestly wish these mini tool’s didn’t have a knife. They are usually not very great. All they are good at is making the tool less travel friendly.
let's look forward to the new edition.😉
@@Robin6512 hi friends, NexTool already take your suggestions, will feedback to the engineer and quality control depart, let's look forward to the refine.😊
It makes sense, you may be right.
On the mini sailor, I've grinded the sim extractor to a mini flat screwdriver for glasses and the scissor thumb to flatten it, works like a charm
Very smart you are. Hoping you enjoy the wonderful day.
Thanks for the video this makes lots of sense. A year ago I had a broken spring on my style PS....they sent me a squirt! I'm not sure why they didn't just replace the scissor. Luckily I was still able to obtain a style PS and now have 2 squirts!
They need to make a "budget" brand with no warranty that sells specifically these "not-profitable to fix" tools. The thing is small and relatively inexpensive, I didn't even think it had the 25-year warranty. Or they need to redesign it, there's no reason the Micra can't have the same or better functionality. Either way, corporate needs to step back and let the designers make a good product.
I stopped carrying my Skeletool because I found the pliers just a little too small to cover all of my use cases. The Squirt pliers are good for pulling staples - but not much else. My “keychain” tool (which I don’t technically attach to a keychain) is a Vic Compact. Paired with a Rebar or Supertool, I’m pretty well covered.
Likewise. Skeletool pliers are almost never used by me when I EDC it. Additionally, they're so damn uncomfortable to use on your hand!
Most pliers come in so many sizes it’s easy to find one for your glove box etc. and has way more torque for real work.
Same here Vic compact and dark anodized rebar but I am staring on the bladeless rebar .....😉😂
@@jack.charlesc4750 Bladeless Rebar is tempting...
I am woman.
I carry knife with openers and spoon on my EDC at least 10 years.
This year I changed my old "knife+fork+spoon+ all openers" tool to the Vic Compact and to The Leatherman Squirt Ps4,
I am realy happy about purchased Compact, but the Squirt seems a little big bulky for my pocket keychain.
But - I just bought one of lasts Squirt before its retiring. 👍🏻
I received one of the (now discontinued) Juice CS4's for Christmas this past year. Absolutely love it. While that's in a slightly bigger form factor that the Squirt/Micra/Style tools, my guess is that it was a casualty of the same repairability issue you mentioned
Hey, how about pliers in the Micra frame? Kinda like a tiny Rebar :D
There are off-brand tools like that. And they look really nice. I wonder if the Squirt pliers can go in a Micra shell. The Squirt P4 and S4 are interchangeable I think, pliers in a Micra frame could work. We'd lose the scissors, though. Hmmm.
Victorinox sure knows how to make durable tiny scissors and springs. Why can't Leatherman dial in the Squirt PS4 scissors spring? It has been a known issue for a long time, and the reason I never bothered with a Squirt PS4. To be honest, I don't think I've ever seen a broken Gerber Dime's scissors spring.
They aren’t interchangeable. I bought one of each hoping to put the pliers on the micra. The pliers don’t swap anyways.
If your assumptions are correct, not announcing discoing it was because they need back stock for those still out there. They didn't want to make more units for the sole purpose of sitting on them for warranty returns. The quick shut down means they are probably going to just use what they had in stock for returns and end the bleeding.
That makes sense as well.
It's their own fault for using rivets.
If the damn Dime, Style & Micra have screws the Squirt could have.
Keep up the good reviews. Been watching for awhile now. Great work sir.
Would be interesting to see the comparison between the new and old micra you mentioned.
12:16 Not sure if you were aware but you can still get the Midnite Manager which is basically the same tool with an added Red LED key light.
Personally I'm quite interested in the Nextool Flagship Mini, I want a fullscale scissor but having a good one while keeping the plier seems great. Also, while it may be a bit chunky for a keyring tool at least it has the option and it's still lighter than the Mini Sailor. Either way Nextool seems to be the next big thing in tiny tools.
As for Leatherman, I think you summed it up well enough. Hopefully they will replace it with something easier to repair.
I much prefer the basic manager but cool that it exists in that form
Good day friend, I believe NexTool Mini Flagship would not let you down. Action speak lound than just interest😉just go to get it😊
love to see a "ps5" that is easier for them to repair/replace individual tools - someyhing that's a pliers based 5th pocket carry
Got a worn midnite manager and an unused squirt ps4
Thank you for keeping the community informed by the various things posted on your channel.
I am disappointed with Leatherman that they replaced my Squirt with a Micra instead of giving me the option to pick the Style PS. It makes sense that if a product keeps failing and you are losing money due to replacements that you would discontinue it. Another reason to not mark the Squirt as a "Last Call" would mean a surge in sales for the Squirt all with 25 year warranties. These final Squirts would tend to fail around the same time as the other ones which would create a bunch of RMAs for a product they no longer make. A good plan from companies is to keep X amount on hand for warranties before stopping production.
I wonder from a materials standpoint, what changes could have been made to the pliers to make them stronger without making them bigger.
Do the travel friendly multitools actually work? I have a Gerber Dime Travel, but I never wanted to take it through TSA for fear of getting it confiscated, cause it's up to an agent to decide if it is compliant.
A lot of people us the style ps every time they go through tsa.
The only way you'll every get a guarantee in travel tools is if the TSA or some body certifies tools as approved, that would then mean the TSA agent would be going against their own approval. I however doubt that would ever happen.
@@maxlvledc why did Leatherman Squirt get discontinued ? I carry this light multi tool everywhere. I like it A LOT. I carry my Leatherman Squirt, Gerber mini fast-draw knife and NAA mini .22 revolver in the hot summer months in my swimming shorts.
@@unitedstatesirie7431 my guess is they were loosing too much money on warranties
@@maxlvledc well, that's disappointing. I carry my Leatherman Squirt, Gerber mini fast-draw knife and NAA mini .22 revolver in the hot summer months in my swimming shorts or shirt pockets.
Thanks for ur video. I could think that if the warranty be an issue with the Squirt- they could always replace the connectivity with screw type from Micra. I am sure they r very smart about it. They could also raise the price a little on Micra and improve the scissors
Damn. I carry a squirt and was just looking for a second to add to my bike kit. If I'd known they were discontinuing I would have bought 10. I love this thing. I do think they could offer a shorter warranty without hurting their brand. Just explain that it's total replacement, and so they can't offer 25 years.
Same. I decided on the Nextool EDC Keychain Multitool, 10 in 1.
What is the 3rd tool from left to right (on the left side of the yellow Leatherman)? It seems to be quite a compact and a good alternative to the Squirt and Micra. Companies are governed by profit and if some product is not profitable it is natural to discontinue it. I think that is partly why the perfect multitool doesn't exist. Companies need you to buy their stuff over and over again. On the good side of things Squirt would now become a collectable and price will go up :)
It seems like the right size to make a decent replacement, the only text I could read on it was made in Mexico.
@@SomeOne-lc2pc Found it! After some 4K CSI image enhancement :) It reads Model 350 USA which is Buck Knives model 350 tool.
@@aingilizov terrific work! Looks like I'm headed to eBay since these were only produced from 1998-2002ish, still cheaper than a used squirt and possibly even lighter too!
I'd still buy it without the warranty. It's a tiny tool and should not be subjected to hard use. I usually modify my leathermans voiding the warranty anyway. Then again, I'm still carrying a Squirt S4, which was discontinued over a decade ago, so clearly I'm no longer leatherman's target audience.
The Squirt S4's scissors look superficially similar to a those on the micra, but they are far superior.
Style CS is great, I got it with the skeletool, and my wife keeps using it, it looks eternal, even with the blade rust the spring loaded sissors are perfect.
Whats the slimmest mini multitool(s) you handled? Looking for a slim one in my EDC pouch. Thanks!
Had the Squirt with the combo pliers / wire stripper, and absolutely loved it. But I lost it somewhere, and couldn't find another. I don't want just pliers, or even worse, scissors. If the cost were low enough, I'd accept that a long warranty isn't necessary.
As far as I am concerned I have really big hands and any of these small muti-tools can go the way of the "Dodo Bird" they are just too small for me. So, I will continue with the big boys and go from there. Really love the work and time you put into these videos...Great! channel👍. Kudos from NYC🗽.
The Squirt PS4 has been an everyday carry for me. I use the pliers often and never have had an issue. I wish they would have updated it rather than discontinue the model. I also have a Micra that never leaves the drawer simply because of the poor performance of the scissors.
Good choice. A sim extractor is the only tool I carry on my keybar.
I got a knipex xs and a Victorinox cadet...so I'm pretty much served with pocket tools i suppose, they are a pretty good pair
Edit. I also put one of those big paperclips on my keys, for the emergency wire and the sim card removal occasion, but it's hard to find a paperclip that doesn't lose the chrome finish after a little while
I have a knipex and a bit bar, it covers most of my use cases
I'm thinking of replacing Wingman and AAA-sized flashlight with a AA-size flashlight in my pocket, and my Victorinox 58mm classic with a Style Ps on my keychain so I can be travel ready without having to leave anything behind. Can you suggest a better combo?
Wow, I knew that the Rebar bit adapter could be used on the 84mm waiter combo tool and the newer philips screw drivers on explorers and swisschamps, but never occurred to me to test this on 58mm philips, thanks for the tip!
What's the third one from the left? You didn't talk about it in the video, the slim one right next to the one with yellow-ish scales?
I've been searching for the perfect mini multitool and the search is ongoing because they discontinued Squirt.
Sorry to hear about the end of the Squirt. I´ve had one on my keychain with a Photon light for many years and I use it almost daily. I lost my original Squirt many years ago and had to replace it with the current version which deleted the awl and added the scissors. I´d rather have the awl as the scissor is a superfluous tool at this size. My knife can cut better than the scissors, plus the scissors spring is starting to act up on my current Squirt. I carry a big multi-tool in my edc bag, but I almost never need it since the Squirt is so handy and capable.
There is the Victorinox jetsetter which just has scissors and the combo tool. Not a lot of tools but an option.
Looking to find the style ps to add to my collection in case they discontinue it too.
I bought the micra a while ago. I really like the idea of it but just not executed correctly with the scissors.
I have 3 micra tools. all three I have had since they were newly released in 1996 ( bought all three the same day, knowing I would put one in my vehicle, one in my pack and one in my home desk). they still cut very well, even though I have used the hell out of them. I would like to see the nextool, but as a disabled vet, I really don't have the funds to buy things just to see if they are as good as the one I use. a few years ago, I sent my original PST that I had bought in 1985 in for service, and checked the box that it had real sentimental value, and I did get the same tool back, just with the file and flat head drivers replaced, they also cleaned it and sharpened the blade. I do understand why they are discontinuing it, and think that they would have been much better off just going back to screws. I also have an original mini, and I really wish they had not discontinued that one. it is an outstanding tool. I have personally retired the one I have because I am sure that if it were damaged I could not get it fixed at this point. ( Leatherman warranty USED to be unconditional lifetime) when my house burned down in 1996, we found the very roasted corpses of my other original PST and my one of my two original generation supertools. and sent them in with pictures of the house burned to the ground, and the spot I found the tools. they replaced the supertool, but sent a gen 1 wave instead of the PST. I still EDC the gen 1 wave, but have replaced the supertool with a surge. I have a video on my channel with all of the multi tools I own, and show the original PST and the mini that I still have in my multi tool roll.
I prefer if they just return the torx version instead of this rivet one, considerably lessen the warranty, and sold replacement parts. They get to keep having profit, we get to repair our tools.
Rivets are no excuse not to fix multitools, Victorinox changed the serrated blade to scissors and the plierhead in my Swisstool BS, cant be that hard, never mind the millions of saks, that have a warranty still like 200 years from now:P
Good point I couldn't understand why the discontinued it but I'm not alone in having my juice replaced once under warranty! The second time when the replacement broke I just decided to keep it because I saw they would only replace it with a less good tool
I definitely don’t understand why every fold-style tool has to be pliers based. For a Wave, okay… fine. But for smaller sizes, scissors would make a great upgrade. Shame they seem to either suck, or are falling the way of the Dodo.
Appreciate your updates!
The leatherman style sc is exactly what you are talking about and it's awesome. I carry mine every day all the time for years now.
rather have a SAK -Rambler or Manager on the keychain and it's truely a keychain size EDC and about the same price and all the ladies love SAK's and are never threatened by them
I think you're pretty accurate on your assessment thank you sir
Imagine Squirt done with better steel and Victorinox scissors. I really love that tool. Mine broke but still works (cheapo steel and little nub broke off from regular opening).
Thankfully just got my squirt replaced under warranty a few months ago
Hey always enjoy your videos 😊 I didn't know the Phillips driver on the Victorinox Rambler fits the Rebar adapter 😮 I just picked up a Midnite manager because I like keeping a Classic SD or Rambler for a keychain tool and saw good reviews on the manager. Anyway hate the Squirt being discontinued, big LM junkie too 😂 keep the videos coming always good stuff.
Years ago I added a layer to my Squirt and added the Dime box cutter to it. Funny thing is, if some guy in his garage can add replaceable screws to the Squirt why couldn't have Leatherman done that? Ya, I know. Cost of production.
I ended up losing that Squirt. Was a great little multi-tool so was sad to see it go.
That was an interesting point on getting the 4 year Amazon warranty... but I can't find the way that you would add that (I'm in PA with billing address in WA). Is that offered upon check-out? When doing a Ctrl-F for 'Warranty,' while on the product page, it only seems to refer to the manufacturer's warranty. Thanks for the videos.
I see it on computer..but not 100% sure it shows up on mobile
2 months later and now I recognize one of your tools here. Holy cow you have a brand new Juice S2 there. That's like mint condition.
If I send in my Style CS will they replace it with another even though it’s discontinued or are they going to send a micra?
Hopefully they fix the spring issue and bring out a successor.
I got my Leatherman Squirt at Radio Shack, so it isn't travel-friendly since it has a blade. But I wanted to point out here that the slot-head screwdriver on the bottle opener in that version tapers down from the bulge to a tip that is the width of the narrowest portion as you said yours ought to have been. Of course, my model was discontinued ages ago*, but I would never have been tempted to over torque its pliers because it is just a narrow gripper at the tip of the 12-to 20-gauge wire stripper.
*Just like my model of the Juice, which had a short, curved, serrated blade for cutting the seal on a wine bottle to complete its complement of sommelier's tools which was also discontinued years before its peers.
Here in European Union (except UK) you can carry to plane a blade no longer as 50 mm.
All Victorinox 58mm knifes has 40 mm blade.
My Leatherman Squirt has 36mm blade.
It are thavel friendly knifes in EU.
15 years ago I worked in TSA, in my Riga city. Now I called to my airport and asked about blades again. The airport info service answer was: I can carry all small 58 mm SAK models to the plane. I purchased Vic Midnite Manager for my sisters birthday- she will get small "travel" knife.
Yep that spring broke on mine too now i don't keep the scissors closed now. I must have one of the old micras cause it works well for me.
Bought a Squirt for ultra-light backpacking, thinking the quality would be better than the Gerber Dime, since it's well, Gerber. I snapped the pliers within the first week trying to pull out a tag thread off some pants. The Gerber? I've used that to help wrench off bicycle axle lugs. Really disappointing because I liked the Squirt's form factor much better. The Gerber just feels more solid, the tools all snap in and out of place. Managed to get the Squirt fixed probably right before it got pulled. Hesitant now to actually use it for the intended purpose.
So when I travel I carry a series of tools with me. Number 1 is the style ps, 2 the pocket monkey, 3 the geek key, and 4 is the Pressure cult Nomad. The last becomes a fix blade knife when you add a standard box cutter blade to it.
It was and is a tragedy that the Squirt PS4 got discontinued. It's by far the best mini multitool there ever was. Hope they bring it back!
I have been using a Micra for many years. It has outlasted 8 cars. Still on my new cars keyring. The scissors have been sharpened a few time. Great tool
I carry the Victorinox Classic SD Alox on my Keychain, its small, light and has nearly all the right tools. "Nearly" because I wish it had the bootle opener/Phillips driver tool. So basically I wish Vic would make a Rambler Alox.
I too wish that as a celidor model on my keychain would quickly get dinged up/scratched. I think I'm going to get the Alox Minichamp even though it does have a few tools on it of dubious utility.
Just got the nextool, Ive always have a knife and have never been interested in a full size multi tool due to the weight and bulk, but having a small multi I think should be a good combo
I remember years ago, when I bought my first Squirt, it had Torx screws! I lost that one, however.
I recently had my Squirt replaced with the Micra after the pliers broke. I was using a little bit of rotational force on them while using a Leatherman Charge in the other hand (trying to open a zip on an old pack!), and yeah snapped with not that much force being used really, was quite surprised and disappointed when in happened.
The tiny scissors were quite useless, I mostly used the file and knife. Quite happy with the Micra, I wouldn't use the scissors for anything too heavy so not too bothered it struggles with paracord, I have a Victorinox Explorer I'd be using for things like that, so as an EDC keychain tool the Micra is fine for now, see how it goes.
Great video as always. What is the tool to the left of the juice?
Buck mini tool
I have a micra marked patent pending its my go to for fishing for cutting any line upto & including 50 pound mono & cuts braid with no issue
I have Victorinox Manager on my keys and never needed anything bigger, great tool - pen is a lifesaver
I was skeptical about the Micra but he is right. I have the same exact survival cordage and it doesn't cut all the way. Sad to say.
I don't think the options Leatherman had were just getting rid of the warranty or discontinuing the tool completely. They don't mine them from the earth, they manufacture them. They could just address the heat treat and update the design to include screws. If they realise that the design of any of their tools has flaws to it, they do have the ability to change it and address those flaws.
Your using logic....Leatherman hasn't had that model for years.
@@maxlvledc Hahahahaha this answer WINS 👍😂
I wonder if you remove the blade, would it be travel friendly. I'm going to try this on my September trip to Canada. I'm going to remove the blade on one of my older multitools. See what happens.
The nextool flathead driver shape will actually be stronger because the narrow point is at the tip rather that down the shaft where leverage will put more force on it.
I carry the Leatherman Squirt on my keychain.
For the most part I really like it.
My only complaint so far is that I went to cut something with the cutter in the pliers back & the metal was softer than I thought & now it has a nick in it.
The nick now effects how easily it closes because the metal is twisted & bent & catches on itself when I try to close the entire tool.
I could fix it probably by hitting it with the Dremel & squaring it all back up but haven't yet done so.
Do it
Excellent breakdown, enjoyed it.
I think I would like a tool that combines the micra and the squirt somehow. Better main scissors that snip paracord as easy as some of the tools you have, give access to the tools from the outside too. I'd use a bigger set of scissors more than a small pair of light use pliers.
I wish I would have bought 3 of them. 1 to use, one as a backup, and one to keep in the box! Unfortunately mine is pretty banged up but it’s the best for the size. RIP Leatherman Squirt 😢
I had a pre 2000 micro also . I believe it used to have fiskars scissors originally
Still wished to have gotten a squirt but with Vivtorinox discountinueing many models I have decided to get them instead. Will just have to keep my eye out at garage sales.
Hi. Is it better the mini sailor than the mini flagship?
I'm consider to buy one. And the powerpint looks good also.
Mini sailor is better imo
The lanyard hole and the sissors spring where bad design flaws.
I hope they redesign something with the same tools and form factor.
I love that file, the pliers are surprisingly handy and the sissors although not great do come in handy to cut a loose thread.
The blade and flat head drivers were also not great but useful
Tried to get a Squirt at the local knife store the other day, but got skunked. I’ve got two on hand-might be investing in a small leather sheath before attempting key chain carry.
Clip n carry kydex sheath is the way to go, no keys in the way when in use. Also fits a dime.
I still have my old PS4 and it has torx. I also have my even older E4, which has rivets. (But also better philips head AND tweezers.) Love them, both still get used actively. Will be a sad day when they fall apart.
Surprised you did not mention the Victorinox Rambler, it has a really strong toolset for everyday city edc, it's the Manager minus the pen.
12:27
Whoa the rebar bit extender fits so snuggly on the victorinox manager Phillips 😮
Yep! Crazy right?
It does? I have to try that.
Thank you for making this video!
That's wild, I have an old Squirt with screws and a couple of old Micras with good scissors. Now I know not to replace them with new ones.
My keychain tool is an alox Vic Mini Champ with minor mods.
I have a Squirt and really like it. But I did have to have the pliers break and it replaced.
Victorinox for the win here. The Spirit beats most leatherman full sized tools and has a lifetime warranty. Most of the Victorinox pocket knives I've had for over 25 years and they haven't ever failed.
Leatherman is cutting corners and raising prices and now discontinuing tools because they can't fix them or have to fix them multiple times and to add insult to Injury, they give you a Micra as a trade for something they won't fix anymore?
If Nexto9l makes a travel version, I would buy it immediately.
I usually carry a mini tool in my 5th pocket with my archer mini light. I have quite a bit of mini tools
I had a micra I got back when I was a kid in the mid 90s. Broke it in my 20s have missed it every since. Sad to hear they're not the same anymore.
Please take a look at the Kilimanjaro 910055 tsa compliant 9 in 1, I'm curious if it's up to standards 👍
Given this uncertainty of the leatherman stock. I'm a little dizzy which multitool to buy, I have several options wingman, curl, bond free t2. Juice s2, as a user and collector what do you say?
Atm I'm hesitant to recommend any tool that uses a bit kit from Leatherman..I'd go with anything that doesn't use them, but it depends on your size needs and toolset.
Have you ever thought of putting heat shrink tubing on the scissors on the very end, do you think is would make a difference?
Hmm, not a bad idea...
@@maxlvledc let me know how it works out
Thanks for the helpful video! 👍
I choose the Nextool Flagship Mini over the Mini Sailor every way till sunday. Awesome scissors and pliers for such a small tool. I used to EDC a PS4 but the Flagship Mini is so much better.
Seems like a massive gap in the market for someone to fill. I'd love to see a uk flight safe multi tool.
And I also want you to know that I appreciate your channel and keep up the good work….
Shocked about the cases of Leatherman sending back a micra instead a fixed tool. That is just disgraceful and disrespectful to their customers. Especially, with the point you made that the micra quality isn’t even good. I got a micra a little while back, and have regretted it ever since. It’s just not good enough quality for the keychain/pocket space. IMO the rambler is the best bet for the average EDC. With the exception of lacking pliers, but you know if you need pliers. If you don’t know if you need pliers….you probably don’t need pliers. The rambler hasn’t left my pocket for months and it’s not going anywhere anytime soon.
Thank you for the updates.
I would be absolutely fine if they did away with the warranty the Squirt. To be honest, I forgot there even was a warranty and my plan had been to buy a new one if mine broke.
I can see how people could be willing to push it past light duty usage if they know they can get a replacement under warranty.