They don't just want to kill physical media; they want to kill the theatrical movie model as well. This was & always have been the goal of streaming services. This has been the mission of Netflix since it started the so-called streaming revolution way back in 2007. However, both attempts to kill these mediums aren't going as planned as the theatrical movie business is thriving & physical media is doing okay. Don't you agree?
@@erickvoshel1 Zach Carlson, author of 'Destroy All Movies' pointed that out in a doc called 'Rewind This' back in 2014. Netflix is responsible for the death of video stores and they are trying to take everything else movie related out too. Boycott Netflix and all the things we love and miss will come roaring back.
I have the Panasonic 820 also .....the best player I think.....I hate streaming always been a physical everything music games movies all I hand copies....like u said streaming can be taken away cuz they can.....
@corneliusdobeneck4081 I use my phone. No internet. I live in Florida, and during Hurricanes, people lose power or internet or even cell services, but most of the time, the power gets restored quickly, but the internet and cell services were very spotty for days. I was completely fine entertaining myself with my collection while a lot of other people were complaining they couldn't watch TV or the internet or anything. The local thrift stores had a run on used players and old DVDs. Walmart was practically sold out of their $5.00 DVD's. Now, most people in and around hurricane hot spots are starting to keep at least one old player and a few DVDs just in case the internet goes out again or a hurricane comes again.
Thanks for speaking about this and against censorship. I wonder how many of the people speaking against physical media own stock in atraming services and are lying to push their agenda. Thanks for being a voice of truth and reason. You rock 😎
I think that is a fair question to ask....when people go after things so hard it always makes you wonder if they have an agenda or money behind it, whether that is for clicks or whatever... I am glad you enjoyed the video, I just want people to understand that they can be entertaining without spreading nonsense!
Beyond just better quality with physical media, having them to look over and choose from…you build a library of movies you may just forget about otherwise. So many movies I think of and want to watch it on streaming but just not right that moment…then I forget about it in the sea of scrolling. I love being able to grab my 4K and set it to the side for later and I love having friends over to scan like a video store and select something to watch. It’s just an experience all to it’s own that can’t be matched. Not with a hard drive or a streaming service.
1000000% that exactly! there is an emotional, nostalgic, tactile experience and pride of ownership and comradery and so much more that come with owning physical media and sharing it with people that no streaming or digital means will ever touch! those who understand that are the lucky ones and those who dont are missing out on so much and one day, they may be coming to us for help lol
I just found ur channel and I immediately subscribed. I own more than 3000+ games physically and I hope PS6 won’t get rid of discs because I won’t spend even a cent on digital.
@worlds_greatest_detective6667 thanks for that!! Glad you enjoyed it enough to hang around! And I don't like spending money on digital either! I want to own what I buy
Im tired of hearing it dead, when it not & studio wouldnt keep pumping new stuff and bc best buy n target stop bc nobody media there and it making money there
I don't know what the deal is, but John Campea is so full it, and has been spreading negativity about physical media for a decade now. He claims he doesn't have a player to play discs, but guess what? He does have a PS5 with a disc drive in his own cinema - those are the facts and can be seen in one of his videos. By the way, we have so many great brands to choose from: Sony, Panasonic, and higher-end brands like Magnetar and Reavon, which stepped in after Oppo. This physical media dying nonsense needs to stop. Keep up the great content! Two thumbs up!
I stopped following him awhile ago...he feels like an industry plant lol Idk I just got tired of hearing his opinion on things it's clear he doesn't care much about...if you're this into the stuff you're talking about you would at very least own a Blu-Ray player lol.
Exactly. He’s a tool. I posted on his video as well. He’s a proponent of the cinema but the movie going experience is far inferior to the home theatre experience. I would argue that movie theatres would go out of existence before physical media dies
Changing content and censoring my favorite movies is bad news. Watched Silver Bullet recently on a streaming service and it was censored at a certain scene.
“You can come TRY and take it from me”. Hahaha! You are hilarious, yet extremely informative when you’re all fired up! That’s why I’ve become such a fan of your channel. Thanks for your passion, Chase. I can’t wait to buy one of your films on PHYSICAL media.
lol I get fired up when people and things I care about are under attack!!! thank you so much for watching and for the kind words, they mean more than you know!
Your comment about the physical media market being four times as large as the theater market would be a very interesting TH-cam video on your channel. I was very surprised to hear that. And would love to know where you saw that and learn more detail. Thank you very much, great video!
Well said Chase, why anyone would be against physical media is beyond me, like you said they must enjoy having lower quality, removed at any time media 🤣🤣 ridiculous. Thank you for speaking up and continuing to support physical media 👏🏻
I started collecting physical media back in 2023 and I love it. I don’t have to scroll up and down on so many apps to find the movie I’m looking for..Great video as always🙏🏾
In the EU you cant find any Panasonic players in retail. They are hard to get already. Hope is Japan, because in Japan Blu-ray disc recorders are very popular.
I live in Sweden (EU). They are several stores that sells them. Only online though. That includes ub9000, 820 and so on. I have a 9000 and a 820. I would immediately buy at least one more 9000 if I hear any rumors of panasonic ending production.
@@GenX_in_the_wild I live in the UK and there are still many plenty of stores that stock Panasonic 4K Blu Ray players. Currys, John Lewis and Hughes have them at the moment.
Thanks for taking up the battle. Campea is always finding a way to put down physical media. Robert (a former co-host) is a big PM fan and knew this topic would be attacked. Worst case scenario, just buy a few players to hold on to. It’s good to know my movies belong to me.😊
the thing is, haters always point to 4k player sales not growing with 4k disc sales but honestly, most people buy 1 or 2 players and that is all they need for years! so of course those sales will never grow like the discs that keep releasing tons of new titles on 4k!
Thank you for making this video. I told people the same thing that LG stopping the production of Blu Ray and 4K players was not a big deal. I remember Sony signing that deal with Disney and yes they are not going to piss away all that money by not making players anymore
I still collect physical media I still don't have a 4k player to play 4k discs maybe I'll get one for Christmas never know... I love and cherish physical media here are my reasons physical media doesn't suck... 1. No special features are on Streaming at al /A ton of special features on physical media 2. Disc restoration/ preservation 3. You keep your physical media forever 4. Don't be relying on Streaming 5. Badass cover art Thank you American Vintage Adventures for your honest thoughts on this matter you rock...
thanks my friend! yeah, I understand people making mistakes, it happens when you talk on camera a lot, BUT you need to try to come with fact based stuff and not just go after clicks with misinfo!
I like your comment. I'm one of the people who for the past decade or two have not seen the difference, BUT I've also never really watched those things because I never invested in them to begin with. It's only the shift in culture and cost that has led me to seek out quality uncensored films. So now, I'm finally investing and updating my stuff. I'm making the "big leap" into the physical media culture. It had more to do with the culture and cost, rather than the actual technology itself.
I cut the cable cord 9 years ago. I don`t want discs to go away. I have my movies on disc and digital. In 10 years of having digital content, I have not lost one movie or show yet. I save $200 month since cutting the cord, and only spend what want to. I`ve walked away from content before, and I have no problem doing it again. Long live physical media.
@williammartin3559 I'm glad you haven't lost any titles, but I've lost dozens since 2007. Microsoft is the worst offender for me. It definitely matters when you lose titles. When you spend your hard-earned money buying an entire series and episodes, seasons, or sometimes an entire series just vanishes, it absolutely matters. I still have over 1000 digital titles, and the only time I buy digital now is when it's not available on any other format and on sale for a low price. My physical library is over 1300 and growing. I feel much better spending my money on that.
@@possiblyinsane6995 maybe because some people don't like spending money on something that they can no longer watch. I lost an entire season of one series before I even got to watch it.
IMHO, physical media will never die if for no reason than people want to “own a piece” of the stories they love. The market might contract at times but probably not go away. Big movie studios may eventually stop releasing physical media, but, I agree with you, they aren’t going to leave cash on the barrelhead. They are likely to source their media to boutiques. I think overall boutique companies put more love and care into their releases. And usually it is quite high quality. Even if the major electronics companies stop making players, I would expect the boutiques to consider entering that market so they can continue to sell the media itself. PS- chase, did you miss my walls of text? :P. Work has been crazy, but I should(for better or worse) be commenting more. Glad to hear VS might out put your stuff on physical media. I requested they consider it a few times in October. (They allow people to request movies on their site) Glad you are still putting out great content.
@LanceThigpen my friend I have been wondering if everything was OK with you and hoping I hadn't ran you off somehow lol!! I am glad to see you are back!! And I agree...if nothing else the boutiques will grow over time
If Vinegar Syndrome were to build their own media player, they would be smart enough to treat VHS collectors with respect and actually offer a 4K/VHS combo player. Panasonic did it once with a Blu-ray/VHS combo player so you can't say it's impossible.
My library consists of a little over 10,000 titles (a mix of about 50/50 physical and streaming media). I cannot conceive of physical media ever going completely away. Those of us who care for and invest in quality reproduction will always be here. Depending on your favorite films always being available via streaming is a fool’s errand.
John Campea also tried telling his fans it was unlikely Disney would release Mandalorian on physical media. Now look at how many of their streaming originals have been released on disc?
Glad someone else’s noted the clickbaiting articles that came out with the LG announcement. Fisrst thing that came to mind is I’ve never seen anyone suggest an LG 4k player. It’s usually Panasonic or Sony.
I think it was a really lazy and easy headline to get views! and LG is hardly ever discussed by most people in the physical media world! it is almost always Sony and Panasonic
Apart from Sony and Panasonic we also have Magnetar and Reavon with their, admittedly very expensive, but brilliant players that have taken the place of Oppo. By all accounts, they are selling well. Physical media and the hardware to play them on is alive and well! Also, look at all the new cd players that were released this year alone!
Great video! I agree with you 💯 percent, I'm looking to purchase a 4k player here in the very near future. Most people don't know what they're talking about, at least you have better knowledge of what you're talking about! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for your support! It’s great to hear you’re considering a 4K player-there’s nothing like the quality of physical media! if you dont need region free Id recommend the Sony 700 or the Panasonic UB820!
@AVAPopCulture I have considered purchasing the Panasonic player, in fact I call my local Walmart and they carry that item. I live here in the United States, in a little place called Philadelphia NY.
Best budget player on the market is the NEW Panasonic UB450 for $171 on Amazon. Not only are 4k players not going away but Panasonic is even bringing out new models!
Im a huge physical media collector with over 6000 blu rays/dvds/4ks. But even I'll acknowledge that physical media is rapidly becoming niche and very expensive. Yeah technically physical media will still around, but itll price out the vast majority of people. Collectors are largely responsible for driving up prices by buying gimmicks like steelbooks and fancy cardboard boxes.
@@Scifi4life is it? lol countless articles, numbers, etc say otherwise Streaming Service Growth Halved In 2023 The industry also saw a stunning 140.5 million cancellations-the largest drop in subscribers over the last five years, with over 36 million more customers canceling compared to 2022. The proliferation of new streaming services has led to a saturated market, prompting companies to increase prices by up to 43% over the past year Streaming Services Face Subscriber Exodus Amid Rising Costs and Market Saturation www.filmtake.com/streaming/streaming-services-face-subscriber-exodus-amid-rising-costs-and-market-saturation/
Excellent points, very well made 🙌 I’m a UK youtuber and in my latest video (filmed in HMV) they had over 50 titles released in a single week. As a physical media collector for over 30 years, I can tell you, it’s never been as good as it is today. Nice one mate, take care👍😃👍
thank you! I feel the same! as someone who has been involved in movies my whole life as a fan, collector, and filmmaker, I dont ever remember a better time with so many releases and great options for us to buy!
Oh, no. It's thriving people are out there buying discs in droves and the Big Box stores are so totally invested in such, they are dedicating their whole electronics departments to media. They can't keep players on the shelf and the disc prices are dropping due to high volume sales. Everyone feel better now?
I'm in Melbourne Australia. A couple of years ago I bought a Sony x700 4k player. I've had no trouble with it. I have five bookcases in my unit dedicated to physical media. I collect dvd, blu ray, 4k UHD and have some collectable VHS tapes also. Monterrey Midnight Madness big box VHS. Freddie Francis 1962 movie "the brain" is one of my VHS titles. Cheers
the physical media haters dont like to mention that...they also try to ignore the fact that people dont need to buy players as much as discs...most people buy 1 or 2 4k players and wont buy another one for many years, so of course their sales dont increase like the movies!
You are right 100%, I have a copy of every movie I physically own online. I had nine movies missing Vudu before Fandango took over, and when I contacted customer service they said oh we no longer support that studio. Like wtf, I was like that has nothing to do with me, you took my money I want my product back or my money back. I was only to get 4 back because that's what I had proof for. I was furious.
Hey I just got the new Kickboxer 4K in the mail and watched it. Some of the movie is a strong 5 out of 5 on the picture but some scenes were very very heavy on film grain where it was like a 2 out of 5 picture. I like film grain in movies and the look it brings but some of the scenes are crazy heavy, and I watched it on my new 65 inch Sony 4K OLED. Will you be doing a review on the new 4K? I would love to know your thoughts on the 4K scan. Thanks man.
I don’t take the internet for granted. One day something can go haywire with a satellite or server or whatever makes the wireless internet engine go go go. But you know who’ll be able to still watch TV and movies with their physical media??? Us collectors! When we have a power outage and use our genny it’s always physical media bc we don’t have internet during storms. Anything can happen, call it an entertainment prepper 😂
EXACTLY!!!! so many people just take for granted that they will always have access to digital and internet...they may find themselves proven painfully wrong
Most people want some type of home theater now. Physical media is the best way to utilize it. TVs are getting bigger, better and cheaper. Nobody wants to deal with the disrespectful person sitting behind you in a public theater anymore no matter how hard the employees work.
Physical media is growing bigger everyday. Don't listen to the outside noise (John Campea)!! He only talks about movies not owning physical media.!! John Campea please stop!!!
@@AVAPopCulture Absolutely ‼️ A badass 4k player for less than a thousand dollars from Sony hell anyone that just smokes existing players. Upconverts better than anyone, built like a tank, ten year warranty. Over the top must have 4k player. 👍😎
Just last week I was at Best Buy and they had a 500 dollar DP-UB820P-K Blu-ray player. Has 4k and everything. I'm no expert in this stuff, but it was a larger device. You might already know about it. 👍
Funny, the last LG player I bought was over a decade and a half ago. It would not play physical media until weeks later after a firmware update. I replaced it with an Oppo player - a boutique brand suggested by audiophiles because it also played all sorts of discs and was very reliable. Oppo's leaders also misread the market when they decided to exit and focus on their phone manufacturing. I have yet to replace the Oppos with a 4K disc player because I need to upgrade other equipment first. Meanwhile, I found a Zidoo player that will play my discs bit for bit to my old equipment yet somehow make it look as intended. At some point, I will get with the times, but I will continue to collect physical media because it is better than streaming in every way. The point is, people have been calling for the death of physical media for a long time but it is streaming that is not so healthy.
I only watch TH-cam and my physical media. It's enough to keep me entertained. Infact I regret that I sometimes don't have enough time to rewatch all the physical media I own. It's never ending. I recently got hold of a used Oppo 203 player to replace a Sony player.
LOL that guy is John Campea! Very opinionated guy! Been following him since the days of the Movie Blog podcast! Canadian now lives in LA. Yeah John's takes are hit or miss as all people tend to be.. He can be annoying at times for sure but I enjoy his show as I love his crew more than him! LOL I wonder if Blu Ray would become more niche? Hard to say. Look at LP's and their huge resurgence! With digital songs and streaming, LP's are doing amazing! Plus CD sales are starting to take off! And Cassette tapes are making a little comeback! So saying Blu Ray is on death's bed is a little premature. I love Blu Rays and still buy them! My digital collection is way bigger but I will always have hard media for sure! High Res hard media like Blu Rays! Have two Panasonic Blu Ray players too! One is 4K and love it! Great video thanks!
Agree 100%, but I bought into the 3D television thing and, well, that’s left me with shelves full of discs I can’t watch anymore now both my 3D TVs have died. They were both LG too! 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Right on Chase! You're on fire today! This is my kind of video... love it. Dude, my first thought when I heard LG was halting player production was "Who the f*ck cares?!? LG 4K players are sh*t!"😆🤣😉 I just laugh when people start talking about the death of physical media anytime one specific business -- that is not even all that relevant to the industry -- decides to stop being involved in it. It's intellectual laziness. Physical media is not going anywhere. It changes and evolves, but it's certainly not dying. Anyway, great stuff man! Keep it rockin'!
hey thanks Fuzz!!! I just kinda keep listening to uneducated hater crap until I finally gotta kinda blow up and throw it all out there LOL... no serious 4k watcher is seeking LG and on top of that, of course 4k "player" sales lag behind 4k disc sales, because nobody needs to keep buying more and more players every year!! you buy a couple and they are good for years! meanwhile we are getting new 4k titles all the time! so to me, that argument is serious intellectual laziness as you mentioned! thanks for watching my friend! I love your stuff!
@@AVAPopCulture Oh I hear ya man, and I was digging it every step of the way. You almost sound like me sometimes LOL! (me more off-camera rather than on the channel... although I've been known to go off a bit from time to time more publicly and weave in some jabs here and there LMAO!😂😉). I like that you have a real appreciation for market dynamics... which some people don't really seem to take the time to think about or understand. I can relate to so much of what you said. Keep hitting us with the awesome sauce man! Love it.
@TheOriginalFuzz ha! Funny you say that because my wife says that you remind her of me talking about stuff sometimes 😂 probably why I was draw ro your channel early on! I try not to "go off" too much on camera but sometimes I reach the limit on my stupid meter 🤣
I respect what you said in this video. You're right about everything you especially for the people who don't even own physical media and are telling people what's what. Right now I'm currently approaching 1600 titles and I'm not getting rid of them. Btw, I bought the story of g I joe blu ray from ignite films which I didn't even was the same company putting out reanimator 4k.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video and good on ya for keeping your collection growing! It's a real joy to be able to put a disc in and enjoy it. I am ready to go all-in to support Ignite films!
Campea is a corporate tool... like you said, he's pushing the "own nothing" narrative. No matter how big Spotify gets, vinyl is still thriving... physical media isn't going away.
I saw a AD for Imax theater on Instagram stating that my home theater soundbar will never match the sound quality that imax offers.... This is true, but my 5.2 channel comes with a beer fridge and half the price on snack and not having people getting up and interrupting me because they have to use the restroom. I use 5.2 channel LG soundbar LG 4k player And LG 4k UHD TV And It Rocks. Lifes Good (LG),,,, my thoughts are 4k is were it ends. 8k will not see physical format. But only time will tell
Totally agree with you! I'm a huge media collector! I never buy streaming movies or music! Because you really don't own it! I buy physical media in 4k and Blu rays! I even still buy CDs and vinyl for my music!
exactly! haters out here saying "it doesnt matter if 4k disc sales are rising, the 4k player sales arent"...well, obviously people dont need to buy as many players as they do new movies haha...I mean once you have 1 or 2 players and gaming system or two that also plays them, of course you dont need more 4k players
Hey thanks for this! I totally agree. With a new Panasonic player out now, it's encouraging about players, just for example. And I'm glad you make the point about the Sony discs...I never used them either and I hoped you'd mention Verbatim: great blank discs. I have some that I made 20+ years ago that still play fine. Really enjoy your videos!
I watch the John Campea Show, so I knew exactly who you were talking about from the very beginning. When I watched that segment of his show, It made me sick. I like the show, but John is full of shit. He's always full of shit. It burns me up when people keep saying physical media is dying. That's coming from non collectors. They don't fucking know. I hate that. Physical media right now is bursting at the seams
exactly! and I as I mentioned to someone else, it kills me when haters out here saying "it doesnt matter if 4k disc sales are rising, the 4k player sales arent"...well, obviously people dont need to buy as many players as they do new movies haha...I mean once you have 1 or 2 players and gaming system or two that also plays them, of course you dont need more 4k players!
Here's another funny part. If people think Sony stopped making players, the Playstation is obviously made by Sony, and Sony literally put a 4K player in the system as an option. I mean, come on people
Great Video Chase!! You spoke total truth here. I have been a physical media collector and use Sony, Panasonic and Pioneer players for well over 30 years. These are the top tier of 4K, Bluray and DVD players. LG is minuscule in comparison. Sony and Panasonic are continuing to produce players, in fact, I believe, Panasonic just came out with a more "economical" 4K player that Jeff Rauseos had recently talked about. So you are correct in the facts about the players as well as physical media is NOT dying!!! Thank you Chase....luv your channel!!! Take care and Happy Holidays buddy!!!
Thanks! You're exactly right, they are continuing to make players and it's just the haters who try to claim it's dead... .thank you again and Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you and yours as well!
Chase has done past videos about where he buys from. I know he recommends Arrow Video, Vinegar Syndrome, Shout! Factory or maybe it's called Scream, 88 Films, and Criterion.
I don't have a 4K player yet (cart before horse for me) but I have VHS, DVD, and Blu-ray players because I'm not wearing out the lasers doing all-in-one BS. Players are expensive, so I'm only using them for their respective formats to save the emitters.
Anytime someone tries to tell me that my physical media collection is ridiculous "because you can just stream it" it always comes down to them saying something like "it takes up too much room". My movies line the walls of my weight/game room. It isn't taking up any space that I need for something else. These people just need to say "I don't have room" and end the conversation there, instead of trying to convince me it's dumb. But most people that see my movies think it's awesome and always say something like "so when are we gonna have a movie night". Nobody ever says "Oh you have Netflix? When are we having a movie night?". lol
100% that is a big part of the issues with the anti-physical media crowd...it is like it makes them uncomfortable that we own something they dont so they want to belittle us to make themselves feel better...and streaming will never bring people together and have nostalgia to it like physical media!
I actually feel like we are in a very interesting "turn-around" point in media history. What I mean by that (and I've thought about this FOR YEARS) is I think more people like myself are finally appreciating physical media. I'm 42, and I think a lot of people in my generation who never were physical media collectors, we are starting to shift that. I don't think it's just me, and the reason I say this is because I think the streaming stuff that began with Netflix, and then Hulu, Paramount and all the other streaming stuff, I think it's FINALLY ran its freaking course. I could be wrong, but I will list reasons for why I think people are tired of streaming more now than in past recent years. 1. Censorship: it's one big thing that got my attention in the past few years. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction and the "woke" culture and everything that followed really WOKE me up. I studied and have my bachelors in history and I know what canceling anything does...it actually does the opposite of what it intends to do and creates a backlash. The PC stuff simply defeats the purpose of movies and art, telling a story. 2. Costs: Netflix raised their prices a few years ago so I dumped it. Hulu has too, but not that bad. I had Peacock until they raised their prices. I am tired of streaming stuff, for the most part and I simply won't pay more for most of it. I have cable at home, and I have Hulu and that's it...and just this past Friday I signed up with AMC+ because of certain movies they have AND I have access to Shudder which means I get Joe Bob Briggs. Honestly, Joe Bob had more to do with me signing up with AMC+ (I was a big MonsterVision fan in highchool), but the movies played a role too. Oh, and I had Disney+ for a hot minute, but cancelled within a week, it simply wasn't worth it. 3. Movies, expensive and Hollywood gone crazy: I have been fine with going to the movies for the past several years, even though there is streaming stuff. But I am finally tired of both, for the most part. Movies are also expensive and I think Hollywood has sort of gone crazy. The politics is too much for me. And there's so much foreign influence from what I understand, the film quality simply isn't there for me. I recently watched a movie from 1927 called Wings and I was blown away by the aerial film shots which were shot by multiple cameramen in various airplanes filming other airplanes above the clouds from a very long distance away. It was beautiful and REAL. As a whole, the factor of Hollywood is just sort of a turnoff for me in a lot of ways. 4. Cost and Quality: In the long-run, the cost of physical media really IS worth it. The quality is better too, especially for horror movies. Having a home theater system that you care about really is worth it. I feel like Horror is the PERFECT genre for this entire topic, because it's meant to scare you, it's mean to be obscene, and it's meant to a B movie friendly culture which I think allows for more artistic creativity. I think watching Joe Bob Briggs on MonsterVision really allowed me to see this, back in my highschool days. He was always so unfiltered and loved showing those B movies, and he was so knowledgeable. He still is. I am actually writing Joe Bob a fanmail letter this week and sending it to him, I remember wishing I had done this in highschool, and now I have a second chance to do it. I want to tell him how much I appreciate him and everything he taught me. So, in all, after years of jumping around from this streaming app and then to the next, I personally am tired of it. I'm tired of the Hollywood crap. I'm tired of the censorship. I'm finally going to start my own home theater collection and I'm starting with Horror and Westerns.
I will also add that Netflix dumping Chucky this past November played a role in this too. Meaning, the concept of having access to something and then it's suddenly taken away became very apparent. So I'm buying Chucky now! 😅 And everything being interconnected or possibly hacked played a role too! Physical Media is simply a safer route and better viewing quality.
@@AVAPopCulture I can't emphasize enough though, for someone like myself who has NOT been a collector over the years (I only have 4 DVDs to my name, although I just bought one more yesterday), a BIG BIG reason that I NOW want to start collecting is the Hollywood PC censorship in COMBINATION WITH what streaming has become. It's like it's all happening at the SAME TIME. Streaming is unraveling and turning into what cable has always been, AND the PC stuff over the past 5 or 6 years has really dumbed-down the BIG Hollywood industry. So, for me, it has led to me finding a channel with someone like yourself who understands this and speaks on it, and your explaining what I have been thinking. And it's led to me wanting to FINALLY invest in physical media. Probably why I always LOVED Joe Bob on MonsterVision going on his RANTS and speaking the truth. He was doing it back then too! Lol. He's good at explaining things. He's a national treasure, IMO. But, for me, to actually want to invest in physical media, trust me, it's a BIG deal. I never would have ever thought I'd be wanting to do it. I think since I work in the history field, I have seen this with politics too and history, so I might be more aware than some people to what is actually happening...and I love movies, so that could be part of it. But again, it's those two key things happening at the SAME TIME that inspired me. The Netflix dumping Chucky was the icing on the cake.
@@AVAPopCultureI also only have an interest in buying physical media that falls under 3 genres and 1 special category: Horror, Western, and Sci-Fi. The special category would be pre Hays Code movies. I have no interest in Rom-Coms, comedies, holiday movies, musicals, dramas, thrillers, dark comedies. I will buy according to the genres of Horror, Western and Sci-Fi, and the pre Hays Code movies. I want more of a cinema experience and not a casual movie experience. 💀🤠👽🎥
@@AVAPopCultureSci-fi and pre Hays Code movies are part of my key interest for purchases, along with the Horror and Westerns. There's a lot of genres I have no interest in spending money on. But those four are good ones. 👻👽🤠🎥
Totally agree with your comments about LG. As long as there are Panasonics, Samsung, Sony etc - nothing to worry about. I have bought a backup machine as well just in case. I certainly do not want to rely on streaming (though I do watch some things that sadly probably never end up on physical media). and prefer bluray / 4K any day. I also daydream about setting up a boutique bluray label and release all my favourite quirky films from the 60s and 70s, probably will need that lottery win for that one though (clearly it can be done as there are a decent number of labels releasing the odd film here and there)
They did the same thing when Bestbuy decided to quit selling physical media, collectors started be panic as usual. It's never going to die guys, these studios are still selling DVDs to this day even though blu-ray is far superior. There'll be manufacturing new bluray players or a new electronic company will In the future.
NO! Physical Media is NOT DEAD! LG 4k Players Mean NOTHING and I am going to explain why! Pop that tape in, I got you, let's go do this!
Nope, it’s over bro 😎 it’s dead 💀 all 4K news is obviously fake news 😂 can’t wait for ReAnimator though 👍
They don't just want to kill physical media; they want to kill the theatrical movie model as well. This was & always have been the goal of streaming services. This has been the mission of Netflix since it started the so-called streaming revolution way back in 2007. However, both attempts to kill these mediums aren't going as planned as the theatrical movie business is thriving & physical media is doing okay. Don't you agree?
@@erickvoshel1 Zach Carlson, author of 'Destroy All Movies' pointed that out in a doc called 'Rewind This' back in 2014. Netflix is responsible for the death of video stores and they are trying to take everything else movie related out too. Boycott Netflix and all the things we love and miss will come roaring back.
Love your passion! Expressing our feelings! Thank you!!
I have the Panasonic 820 also .....the best player I think.....I hate streaming always been a physical everything music games movies all I hand copies....like u said streaming can be taken away cuz they can.....
I still buy physical media, and I can't wait for "Se7en" to come out next year. This is good to hear. Thanks for the video.
Physical media forever
Streaming is Garbage!! 🗑️🗑️🗑️🗑️🗑️🗑️Blu-ray Disc offers the Best picture & Sound! Period!
Maybe to a person who dont care n that y they watch illegal app or jailbreak fire stick
The problem here is TH-cam they can scan for copyright but not for bullshit.
ha! exactly!
Physical Media Lover and Enthusiast ❤
I tell everyone "I don't need an internet connection to watch my movies!".
exactly!!!
I disagree to some sense .... as I buy my physical medie online. muhahahaha
@corneliusdobeneck4081
I use my phone. No internet. I live in Florida, and during Hurricanes, people lose power or internet or even cell services, but most of the time, the power gets restored quickly, but the internet and cell services were very spotty for days. I was completely fine entertaining myself with my collection while a lot of other people were complaining they couldn't watch TV or the internet or anything. The local thrift stores had a run on used players and old DVDs. Walmart was practically sold out of their $5.00 DVD's. Now, most people in and around hurricane hot spots are starting to keep at least one old player and a few DVDs just in case the internet goes out again or a hurricane comes again.
Thanks for speaking about this and against censorship. I wonder how many of the people speaking against physical media own stock in atraming services and are lying to push their agenda. Thanks for being a voice of truth and reason. You rock 😎
I think that is a fair question to ask....when people go after things so hard it always makes you wonder if they have an agenda or money behind it, whether that is for clicks or whatever... I am glad you enjoyed the video, I just want people to understand that they can be entertaining without spreading nonsense!
Beyond just better quality with physical media, having them to look over and choose from…you build a library of movies you may just forget about otherwise. So many movies I think of and want to watch it on streaming but just not right that moment…then I forget about it in the sea of scrolling. I love being able to grab my 4K and set it to the side for later and I love having friends over to scan like a video store and select something to watch. It’s just an experience all to it’s own that can’t be matched. Not with a hard drive or a streaming service.
1000000% that exactly! there is an emotional, nostalgic, tactile experience and pride of ownership and comradery and so much more that come with owning physical media and sharing it with people that no streaming or digital means will ever touch! those who understand that are the lucky ones and those who dont are missing out on so much and one day, they may be coming to us for help lol
Side note! Omg dude i love YOUR channel man. Hopefully you can make a doc on Tom Aspinall once he KOs Jon Jones 😅
Yup. Same here.
This is 8K quality information, sir. You have earned a like and a new subscriber!
Thanks man, I appreciate it! glad you enjoyed it enough to stick around!
Physical media is by NO means dead. This is becoming like the vinyl music hogs from 90’s and 2000’s
and vinyl just keeps growing again!!
I just found ur channel and I immediately subscribed. I own more than 3000+ games physically and I hope PS6 won’t get rid of discs because I won’t spend even a cent on digital.
@worlds_greatest_detective6667 thanks for that!! Glad you enjoyed it enough to hang around! And I don't like spending money on digital either! I want to own what I buy
How can physical media be dead if we still buy and own it?
Physical media will never die because we won't let.
Long live Physical media.
Im tired of hearing it dead, when it not & studio wouldnt keep pumping new stuff and bc best buy n target stop bc nobody media there and it making money there
People also watch free movies on illegal site and app n jailbreak fire stick
My man is smokin John Campea and Im fuckin here for it 🤣🤣👌🏿
I never knew he was until I saw that video while doing my research lol
Great stuff Chase! Thank you for sharing your passion and knowledge!,
I'm glad you're enjoying it! thank you!!
A person with zero ability to play physical discs in their home is a person you don't need to know.
lol I would tend to agree!
That would be a very shallow way to judge someone.
@poolboyinla not at all. You can spot superficiality very easily, especially if they have a Netflix account.
Love it!
my brother you are far too kind and generous! thank you!!
Ive been hearing the whole "physical media is dying" crap for literally decades at this point, haha. It'll never happen
I don't know what the deal is, but John Campea is so full it, and has been spreading negativity about physical media for a decade now. He claims he doesn't have a player to play discs, but guess what? He does have a PS5 with a disc drive in his own cinema - those are the facts and can be seen in one of his videos. By the way, we have so many great brands to choose from: Sony, Panasonic, and higher-end brands like Magnetar and Reavon, which stepped in after Oppo. This physical media dying nonsense needs to stop. Keep up the great content! Two thumbs up!
thank you so much! and you are right! and I think we will get more higher end entries to the market as well!
I stopped following him awhile ago...he feels like an industry plant lol
Idk I just got tired of hearing his opinion on things it's clear he doesn't care much about...if you're this into the stuff you're talking about you would at very least own a Blu-Ray player lol.
Exactly. He’s a tool. I posted on his video as well. He’s a proponent of the cinema but the movie going experience is far inferior to the home theatre experience. I would argue that movie theatres would go out of existence before physical media dies
Changing content and censoring my favorite movies is bad news. Watched Silver Bullet recently on a streaming service and it was censored at a certain scene.
“You can come TRY and take it from me”. Hahaha! You are hilarious, yet extremely informative when you’re all fired up! That’s why I’ve become such a fan of your channel. Thanks for your passion, Chase. I can’t wait to buy one of your films on PHYSICAL media.
lol I get fired up when people and things I care about are under attack!!! thank you so much for watching and for the kind words, they mean more than you know!
Disc life here. I'm never buying movies on streaming services.
Even watch free stuff on illegal app or site?
Your comment about the physical media market being four times as large as the theater market would be a very interesting TH-cam video on your channel. I was very surprised to hear that. And would love to know where you saw that and learn more detail. Thank you very much, great video!
it is the home theater market - not just physical media discs
I'm glad you made this video. I'm tired of typing why all the tubers are wrong!
me too, that's why I did it LOL
Thank you sir.
Well said Chase, why anyone would be against physical media is beyond me, like you said they must enjoy having lower quality, removed at any time media 🤣🤣 ridiculous.
Thank you for speaking up and continuing to support physical media 👏🏻
thank you!!! I think a lot of it is haters who want it dead so they dont feel insecure about not owning anything they pay for lol
physical media sales have been way down each year which is not good
Thank goodness this is not the end of physical media.
I did not know about the deal Sony had with Disney with them putting their old show's on physical media.
I started collecting physical media back in 2023 and I love it. I don’t have to scroll up and down on so many apps to find the movie I’m looking for..Great video as always🙏🏾
It is so much easier to find what you are looking for in your collection, right? and nobody can take it!
I will never understand the clowns that want physical media to die. Like why? It's so weird.
STREAMERS ARE JUST PAYING TO OWN NOTHING
I would be absolutely lost without my VHS, DVD and Blu Ray!
same here!
@@AVAPopCulture I also agree that these haters "don't know their ass from a hole in the ground"! 😆
True that
VHS, DVD!! I won't even watch regular blu ray now. 4k HDR or I don't care to watch it lol.
@@micker9830 Whatever makes you happy
If panasonic would stop making 4k players. I would be more concerned. But they hang in there. 🙂
In the EU you cant find any Panasonic players in retail. They are hard to get already. Hope is Japan, because in Japan Blu-ray disc recorders are very popular.
I live in Sweden (EU). They are several stores that sells them. Only online though. That includes ub9000, 820 and so on. I have a 9000 and a 820. I would immediately buy at least one more 9000 if I hear any rumors of panasonic ending production.
@GenX_in_the_wild
I'm the States you don't see Pioneer only Panasonic and Sony very few other brands as far as 4K players go.
@@GenX_in_the_wild
I live in the UK and there are still many plenty of stores that stock Panasonic 4K Blu Ray players. Currys, John Lewis and Hughes have them at the moment.
Thanks for taking up the battle. Campea is always finding a way to put down physical media. Robert (a former co-host) is a big PM fan and knew this topic would be attacked. Worst case scenario, just buy a few players to hold on to. It’s good to know my movies belong to me.😊
the thing is, haters always point to 4k player sales not growing with 4k disc sales but honestly, most people buy 1 or 2 players and that is all they need for years! so of course those sales will never grow like the discs that keep releasing tons of new titles on 4k!
NO ONE CAN EVER take my physical media away
From my cold dead hands!!!! I agree.
I love physical media. I just imported Kickboxer 4k from The U.S by Lionsgate. Long live physical media.
Thank you for making this video. I told people the same thing that LG stopping the production of Blu Ray and 4K players was not a big deal. I remember Sony signing that deal with Disney and yes they are not going to piss away all that money by not making players anymore
I still collect physical media I still don't have a 4k player to play 4k discs maybe I'll get one for Christmas never know... I love and cherish physical media here are my reasons physical media doesn't suck...
1. No special features are on Streaming at al /A ton of special features on physical media
2. Disc restoration/ preservation
3. You keep your physical media forever
4. Don't be relying on Streaming
5. Badass cover art
Thank you American Vintage Adventures for your honest thoughts on this matter you rock...
Preach brother! Nothing but straight facts! It's great to spread this informed information. 🤘🤘
thanks my friend! yeah, I understand people making mistakes, it happens when you talk on camera a lot, BUT you need to try to come with fact based stuff and not just go after clicks with misinfo!
What still blows me away is DVD is still outselling Blu-Ray. I guess the vast majority doesn't see picture & sound difference.
people are slow adopters...always have been
I like your comment. I'm one of the people who for the past decade or two have not seen the difference, BUT I've also never really watched those things because I never invested in them to begin with. It's only the shift in culture and cost that has led me to seek out quality uncensored films. So now, I'm finally investing and updating my stuff. I'm making the "big leap" into the physical media culture. It had more to do with the culture and cost, rather than the actual technology itself.
I cut the cable cord 9 years ago. I don`t want discs to go away. I have my movies on disc and digital. In 10 years of having digital content, I have not lost one movie or show yet. I save $200 month since cutting the cord, and only spend what want to. I`ve walked away from content before, and I have no problem doing it again. Long live physical media.
I love that you cut the cord and haven’t lost anything, that’s awesome!
bruh you cant take it with you when you die why are you so concerned with losing a title
@williammartin3559 I'm glad you haven't lost any titles, but I've lost dozens since 2007. Microsoft is the worst offender for me. It definitely matters when you lose titles. When you spend your hard-earned money buying an entire series and episodes, seasons, or sometimes an entire series just vanishes, it absolutely matters. I still have over 1000 digital titles, and the only time I buy digital now is when it's not available on any other format and on sale for a low price. My physical library is over 1300 and growing. I feel much better spending my money on that.
@@possiblyinsane6995 maybe because some people don't like spending money on something that they can no longer watch. I lost an entire season of one series before I even got to watch it.
IMHO, physical media will never die if for no reason than people want to “own a piece” of the stories they love.
The market might contract at times but probably not go away.
Big movie studios may eventually stop releasing physical media, but, I agree with you, they aren’t going to leave cash on the barrelhead. They are likely to source their media to boutiques. I think overall boutique companies put more love and care into their releases. And usually it is quite high quality.
Even if the major electronics companies stop making players, I would expect the boutiques to consider entering that market so they can continue to sell the media itself.
PS- chase, did you miss my walls of text? :P.
Work has been crazy, but I should(for better or worse) be commenting more.
Glad to hear VS might out put your stuff on physical media. I requested they consider it a few times in October. (They allow people to request movies on their site)
Glad you are still putting out great content.
@LanceThigpen my friend I have been wondering if everything was OK with you and hoping I hadn't ran you off somehow lol!! I am glad to see you are back!! And I agree...if nothing else the boutiques will grow over time
If Vinegar Syndrome were to build their own media player, they would be smart enough to treat VHS collectors with respect and actually offer a 4K/VHS combo player. Panasonic did it once with a Blu-ray/VHS combo player so you can't say it's impossible.
@@AVAPopCultureno. Not at all. Work has been hectic, and we are launching several new services.
I don’t get offended easily. Gen X X. .
@@dustbin5044I love that idea!
My library consists of a little over 10,000 titles (a mix of about 50/50 physical and streaming media). I cannot conceive of physical media ever going completely away. Those of us who care for and invest in quality reproduction will always be here. Depending on your favorite films always being available via streaming is a fool’s errand.
exactly! I cant imagine it ever going away either! look no further than the fact that vinyl record sales keep growing every year!
John Campea also tried telling his fans it was unlikely Disney would release Mandalorian on physical media. Now look at how many of their streaming originals have been released on disc?
Glad someone else’s noted the clickbaiting articles that came out with the LG announcement. Fisrst thing that came to mind is I’ve never seen anyone suggest an LG 4k player. It’s usually Panasonic or Sony.
I think it was a really lazy and easy headline to get views! and LG is hardly ever discussed by most people in the physical media world! it is almost always Sony and Panasonic
I hope and desire, physical media never die never fucking die. GREATS FROM PORTUGAL ❤
100%!!!!
Apart from Sony and Panasonic we also have Magnetar and Reavon with their, admittedly very expensive, but brilliant players that have taken the place of Oppo. By all accounts, they are selling well. Physical media and the hardware to play them on is alive and well! Also, look at all the new cd players that were released this year alone!
Great video! I agree with you 💯 percent, I'm looking to purchase a 4k player here in the very near future. Most people don't know what they're talking about, at least you have better knowledge of what you're talking about! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for your support! It’s great to hear you’re considering a 4K player-there’s nothing like the quality of physical media! if you dont need region free Id recommend the Sony 700 or the Panasonic UB820!
@AVAPopCulture I have considered purchasing the Panasonic player, in fact I call my local Walmart and they carry that item. I live here in the United States, in a little place called Philadelphia NY.
Best budget player on the market is the NEW Panasonic UB450 for $171 on Amazon.
Not only are 4k players not going away but Panasonic is even bringing out new models!
Never even knew LG made a player. We've all got the Panasonic 820.
right? lol
Thank you for your passion and encouragement about physical media. You are SO RIGHT!
It's the truth and someone had to say it! stuff has been driving me nuts! lol
Im a huge physical media collector with over 6000 blu rays/dvds/4ks. But even I'll acknowledge that physical media is rapidly becoming niche and very expensive. Yeah technically physical media will still around, but itll price out the vast majority of people. Collectors are largely responsible for driving up prices by buying gimmicks like steelbooks and fancy cardboard boxes.
rapidly becoming niche? I couldnt disagree more
@@AVAPopCulturedigital is taking over.
@@Scifi4life is it? lol
countless articles, numbers, etc say otherwise
Streaming Service Growth Halved In 2023
The industry also saw a stunning 140.5 million cancellations-the largest drop in subscribers over the last five years, with over 36 million more customers canceling compared to 2022.
The proliferation of new streaming services has led to a saturated market, prompting companies to increase prices by up to 43% over the past year
Streaming Services Face Subscriber Exodus Amid Rising Costs and Market Saturation
www.filmtake.com/streaming/streaming-services-face-subscriber-exodus-amid-rising-costs-and-market-saturation/
@AVAPopCulture I'm talking about movies anywhere and vudu. That's the future of film and TV.
Excellent points, very well made 🙌 I’m a UK youtuber and in my latest video (filmed in HMV) they had over 50 titles released in a single week. As a physical media collector for over 30 years, I can tell you, it’s never been as good as it is today. Nice one mate, take care👍😃👍
thank you! I feel the same! as someone who has been involved in movies my whole life as a fan, collector, and filmmaker, I dont ever remember a better time with so many releases and great options for us to buy!
I appreciate your realistic and level headed take, thanks for putting this out
for sure! thanks my friend! I just want people to look at facts rather than try to attack physical media because they personally dont like it
I agree with you
100% agree with everything you said. Another, fantastic video. Thank you for making this!
thank you for watching and the kind words! sometimes ya just gotta kinda put it out there lol
Oh, no. It's thriving people are out there buying discs in droves and the Big Box stores are so totally invested in such, they are dedicating their whole electronics departments to media. They can't keep players on the shelf and the disc prices are dropping due to high volume sales.
Everyone feel better now?
👏🏽 Love the video. Just subscribed after watching.. Thanks for your passion. I love physical media since VHS days.. Never stopping.
Awesome! Thank you! glad you enjoyed enough to stay and hang out in the future!
Thanks for the Rant. John is clearly talking out his ass.
you got it lol...every now and then I gotta let it out hahaha
Physical Media is not deceased!
agreed!
IF Sony PlayStation 6 comes out with a digital only console, then I will become nervous 😅
I'm in Melbourne Australia. A couple of years ago I bought a Sony x700 4k player. I've had no trouble with it. I have five bookcases in my unit dedicated to physical media. I collect dvd, blu ray, 4k UHD and have some collectable VHS tapes also. Monterrey Midnight Madness big box VHS. Freddie Francis 1962 movie "the brain" is one of my VHS titles.
Cheers
+ Sony PlayStation 5s play all 4Ks as well lol. Sony is #1 in a lot of categories
the physical media haters dont like to mention that...they also try to ignore the fact that people dont need to buy players as much as discs...most people buy 1 or 2 4k players and wont buy another one for many years, so of course their sales dont increase like the movies!
Or Xbox series x
You are right 100%, I have a copy of every movie I physically own online. I had nine movies missing Vudu before Fandango took over, and when I contacted customer service they said oh we no longer support that studio. Like wtf, I was like that has nothing to do with me, you took my money I want my product back or my money back. I was only to get 4 back because that's what I had proof for. I was furious.
yep! now they are just considering it a "license" and not ownership
For awhile there I thought Vudu was the top tier of streaming only to discover they were owned by WalMart 😮
Hey I just got the new Kickboxer 4K in the mail and watched it. Some of the movie is a strong 5 out of 5 on the picture but some scenes were very very heavy on film grain where it was like a 2 out of 5 picture. I like film grain in movies and the look it brings but some of the scenes are crazy heavy, and I watched it on my new 65 inch Sony 4K OLED. Will you be doing a review on the new 4K? I would love to know your thoughts on the 4K scan. Thanks man.
I don’t take the internet for granted. One day something can go haywire with a satellite or server or whatever makes the wireless internet engine go go go. But you know who’ll be able to still watch TV and movies with their physical media??? Us collectors! When we have a power outage and use our genny it’s always physical media bc we don’t have internet during storms. Anything can happen, call it an entertainment prepper 😂
EXACTLY!!!! so many people just take for granted that they will always have access to digital and internet...they may find themselves proven painfully wrong
Most people want some type of home theater now. Physical media is the best way to utilize it. TVs are getting bigger, better and cheaper. Nobody wants to deal with the disrespectful person sitting behind you in a public theater anymore no matter how hard the employees work.
I just bought Columbia Horror from the UK and Indicator label. It's nice to see public domain films like Cry of the Werewolf released on blu ray!
Loving the rant. Speaking nothing but facts
Every now and then you gotta let it out!! Lol
Physical media is growing bigger everyday. Don't listen to the outside noise (John Campea)!! He only talks about movies not owning physical media.!! John Campea please stop!!!
It's not growing
For real! Physical media is always gonna have its fans. Keep spreading the word!
@AVAPopCulture I like it,but its dying.
I love my OPPO 4k player,i'm looking at the panasonic as a replacement when my oppo stops working.
I'm hoping Panasonic or Sony makes a new awesome player that is built like a tank, reasonably priced, and region free. Long live physical media 👍😎
I think it's time for a new high-end player to come in and just dominate!
@@AVAPopCulture Absolutely ‼️ A badass 4k player for less than a thousand dollars from Sony hell anyone that just smokes existing players. Upconverts better than anyone, built like a tank, ten year warranty. Over the top must have 4k player. 👍😎
Just last week I was at Best Buy and they had a 500 dollar DP-UB820P-K Blu-ray player. Has 4k and everything. I'm no expert in this stuff, but it was a larger device. You might already know about it. 👍
I'm hoping for Yamaha to get back in.
Physical Media cant be dead!! I bought about 1200 blu rays in the last 6 months 😂 …and I am not joking!
right? lol only thing that is out there is haters who want it dead so they dont feel insecure about not owning anything they pay for lol
Funny, the last LG player I bought was over a decade and a half ago. It would not play physical media until weeks later after a firmware update. I replaced it with an Oppo player - a boutique brand suggested by audiophiles because it also played all sorts of discs and was very reliable. Oppo's leaders also misread the market when they decided to exit and focus on their phone manufacturing.
I have yet to replace the Oppos with a 4K disc player because I need to upgrade other equipment first. Meanwhile, I found a Zidoo player that will play my discs bit for bit to my old equipment yet somehow make it look as intended.
At some point, I will get with the times, but I will continue to collect physical media because it is better than streaming in every way. The point is, people have been calling for the death of physical media for a long time but it is streaming that is not so healthy.
they never want to acknowledge the trouble that streaming is in!!
I play on my 4K discs and Blu-ray movies on a Panasonic UB 9000 and I love this machine. It’s better than anything else you ever made that’s for sure.
I only watch TH-cam and my physical media. It's enough to keep me entertained. Infact I regret that I sometimes don't have enough time to rewatch all the physical media I own. It's never ending. I recently got hold of a used Oppo 203 player to replace a Sony player.
LOL that guy is John Campea! Very opinionated guy! Been following him since the days of the Movie Blog podcast! Canadian now lives in LA. Yeah John's takes are hit or miss as all people tend to be.. He can be annoying at times for sure but I enjoy his show as I love his crew more than him! LOL
I wonder if Blu Ray would become more niche? Hard to say. Look at LP's and their huge resurgence! With digital songs and streaming, LP's are doing amazing! Plus CD sales are starting to take off! And Cassette tapes are making a little comeback! So saying Blu Ray is on death's bed is a little premature. I love Blu Rays and still buy them! My digital collection is way bigger but I will always have hard media for sure! High Res hard media like Blu Rays! Have two Panasonic Blu Ray players too! One is 4K and love it!
Great video thanks!
Agree 100%, but I bought into the 3D television thing and, well, that’s left me with shelves full of discs I can’t watch anymore now both my 3D TVs have died. They were both LG too! 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Right on Chase! You're on fire today! This is my kind of video... love it. Dude, my first thought when I heard LG was halting player production was "Who the f*ck cares?!? LG 4K players are sh*t!"😆🤣😉 I just laugh when people start talking about the death of physical media anytime one specific business -- that is not even all that relevant to the industry -- decides to stop being involved in it. It's intellectual laziness. Physical media is not going anywhere. It changes and evolves, but it's certainly not dying. Anyway, great stuff man! Keep it rockin'!
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hey thanks Fuzz!!! I just kinda keep listening to uneducated hater crap until I finally gotta kinda blow up and throw it all out there LOL... no serious 4k watcher is seeking LG and on top of that, of course 4k "player" sales lag behind 4k disc sales, because nobody needs to keep buying more and more players every year!! you buy a couple and they are good for years! meanwhile we are getting new 4k titles all the time! so to me, that argument is serious intellectual laziness as you mentioned! thanks for watching my friend! I love your stuff!
@@AVAPopCulture Oh I hear ya man, and I was digging it every step of the way. You almost sound like me sometimes LOL! (me more off-camera rather than on the channel... although I've been known to go off a bit from time to time more publicly and weave in some jabs here and there LMAO!😂😉). I like that you have a real appreciation for market dynamics... which some people don't really seem to take the time to think about or understand. I can relate to so much of what you said. Keep hitting us with the awesome sauce man! Love it.
@TheOriginalFuzz ha! Funny you say that because my wife says that you remind her of me talking about stuff sometimes 😂 probably why I was draw ro your channel early on! I try not to "go off" too much on camera but sometimes I reach the limit on my stupid meter 🤣
Love It! sent you a small tip for a beer :)
you are awesome man! there is only 1 BIG SAL!!!!!
Man, you absolutely nailed it! I watch my movies and fellow TH-camrs more than any streaming services. Great video and breakdown.
I really appreciate your kind words! It means a lot to see fellow movie lovers recognize the value of physical media.
I respect what you said in this video. You're right about everything you especially for the people who don't even own physical media and are telling people what's what. Right now I'm currently approaching 1600 titles and I'm not getting rid of them. Btw, I bought the story of g I joe blu ray from ignite films which I didn't even was the same company putting out reanimator 4k.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video and good on ya for keeping your collection growing! It's a real joy to be able to put a disc in and enjoy it. I am ready to go all-in to support Ignite films!
Campea is a corporate tool... like you said, he's pushing the "own nothing" narrative.
No matter how big Spotify gets, vinyl is still thriving... physical media isn't going away.
I saw a AD for Imax theater on Instagram stating that my home theater soundbar will never match the sound quality that imax offers.... This is true, but my 5.2 channel comes with a beer fridge and half the price on snack and not having people getting up and interrupting me because they have to use the restroom. I use 5.2 channel LG soundbar LG 4k player And LG 4k UHD TV And It Rocks. Lifes Good (LG),,,, my thoughts are 4k is were it ends. 8k will not see physical format. But only time will tell
Totally agree with you! I'm a huge media collector! I never buy streaming movies or music! Because you really don't own it! I buy physical media in 4k and Blu rays! I even still buy CDs and vinyl for my music!
that's right! they can take it at any time!
This video is art!
ha! thank you my friend! just gotta lay it out there sometimes!
Samsung gave up making 4K players years ago most people go for Panasonic or Sony anyway so LG stopping is no big deal
exactly!
Yeah, there are hundreds of thousands of video game systems, aka blu ray and 4k players... in the wild.
exactly! haters out here saying "it doesnt matter if 4k disc sales are rising, the 4k player sales arent"...well, obviously people dont need to buy as many players as they do new movies haha...I mean once you have 1 or 2 players and gaming system or two that also plays them, of course you dont need more 4k players
Hey thanks for this! I totally agree. With a new Panasonic player out now, it's encouraging about players, just for example. And I'm glad you make the point about the Sony discs...I never used them either and I hoped you'd mention Verbatim: great blank discs. I have some that I made 20+ years ago that still play fine. Really enjoy your videos!
I watch the John Campea Show, so I knew exactly who you were talking about from the very beginning. When I watched that segment of his show, It made me sick. I like the show, but John is full of shit. He's always full of shit. It burns me up when people keep saying physical media is dying. That's coming from non collectors. They don't fucking know. I hate that. Physical media right now is bursting at the seams
exactly! and I as I mentioned to someone else, it kills me when haters out here saying "it doesnt matter if 4k disc sales are rising, the 4k player sales arent"...well, obviously people dont need to buy as many players as they do new movies haha...I mean once you have 1 or 2 players and gaming system or two that also plays them, of course you dont need more 4k players!
I saw that Campea episode and promptly unsubscribed. If only Robert Meyer Burnett had been there to knock some sense into him.
Here's another funny part. If people think Sony stopped making players, the Playstation is obviously made by Sony, and Sony literally put a 4K player in the system as an option. I mean, come on people
@@davefuentes3542 I miss Robert on the show. He knows what's up with physical media.
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Great Video Chase!! You spoke total truth here. I have been a physical media collector and use Sony, Panasonic and Pioneer players for well over 30 years. These are the top tier of 4K, Bluray and DVD players. LG is minuscule in comparison. Sony and Panasonic are continuing to produce players, in fact, I believe, Panasonic just came out with a more "economical" 4K player that Jeff Rauseos had recently talked about. So you are correct in the facts about the players as well as physical media is NOT dying!!! Thank you Chase....luv your channel!!! Take care and Happy Holidays buddy!!!
Thanks! You're exactly right, they are continuing to make players and it's just the haters who try to claim it's dead... .thank you again and Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you and yours as well!
Besides online & Walmart, Target. Where does everyone buy their physical copies. Best Buy was my go to
Chase has done past videos about where he buys from. I know he recommends Arrow Video, Vinegar Syndrome, Shout! Factory or maybe it's called Scream, 88 Films, and Criterion.
Il never stop buying blu rays physical media is not worth my time
How does such a HUGE movie lover, NOT have a dvd/Bluray/4K player? Kim smelling a fraud here….
I don't have a 4K player yet (cart before horse for me) but I have VHS, DVD, and Blu-ray players because I'm not wearing out the lasers doing all-in-one BS. Players are expensive, so I'm only using them for their respective formats to save the emitters.
@ Excellent way to help preserve your equipment!
This is a god tier rant and video! But you miss spoke its spider face. Lol
LOL every now and then, you gotta let it out hahaha
Don’t forget about all of those PS5 consoles that play 4K Blurays quite nicely!
Anytime someone tries to tell me that my physical media collection is ridiculous "because you can just stream it" it always comes down to them saying something like "it takes up too much room".
My movies line the walls of my weight/game room. It isn't taking up any space that I need for something else. These people just need to say "I don't have room" and end the conversation there, instead of trying to convince me it's dumb.
But most people that see my movies think it's awesome and always say something like "so when are we gonna have a movie night". Nobody ever says "Oh you have Netflix? When are we having a movie night?". lol
100% that is a big part of the issues with the anti-physical media crowd...it is like it makes them uncomfortable that we own something they dont so they want to belittle us to make themselves feel better...and streaming will never bring people together and have nostalgia to it like physical media!
I actually feel like we are in a very interesting "turn-around" point in media history. What I mean by that (and I've thought about this FOR YEARS) is I think more people like myself are finally appreciating physical media. I'm 42, and I think a lot of people in my generation who never were physical media collectors, we are starting to shift that. I don't think it's just me, and the reason I say this is because I think the streaming stuff that began with Netflix, and then Hulu, Paramount and all the other streaming stuff, I think it's FINALLY ran its freaking course. I could be wrong, but I will list reasons for why I think people are tired of streaming more now than in past recent years.
1. Censorship: it's one big thing that got my attention in the past few years. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction and the "woke" culture and everything that followed really WOKE me up. I studied and have my bachelors in history and I know what canceling anything does...it actually does the opposite of what it intends to do and creates a backlash. The PC stuff simply defeats the purpose of movies and art, telling a story.
2. Costs: Netflix raised their prices a few years ago so I dumped it. Hulu has too, but not that bad. I had Peacock until they raised their prices. I am tired of streaming stuff, for the most part and I simply won't pay more for most of it. I have cable at home, and I have Hulu and that's it...and just this past Friday I signed up with AMC+ because of certain movies they have AND I have access to Shudder which means I get Joe Bob Briggs. Honestly, Joe Bob had more to do with me signing up with AMC+ (I was a big MonsterVision fan in highchool), but the movies played a role too. Oh, and I had Disney+ for a hot minute, but cancelled within a week, it simply wasn't worth it.
3. Movies, expensive and Hollywood gone crazy: I have been fine with going to the movies for the past several years, even though there is streaming stuff. But I am finally tired of both, for the most part. Movies are also expensive and I think Hollywood has sort of gone crazy. The politics is too much for me. And there's so much foreign influence from what I understand, the film quality simply isn't there for me. I recently watched a movie from 1927 called Wings and I was blown away by the aerial film shots which were shot by multiple cameramen in various airplanes filming other airplanes above the clouds from a very long distance away. It was beautiful and REAL. As a whole, the factor of Hollywood is just sort of a turnoff for me in a lot of ways.
4. Cost and Quality: In the long-run, the cost of physical media really IS worth it. The quality is better too, especially for horror movies. Having a home theater system that you care about really is worth it. I feel like Horror is the PERFECT genre for this entire topic, because it's meant to scare you, it's mean to be obscene, and it's meant to a B movie friendly culture which I think allows for more artistic creativity. I think watching Joe Bob Briggs on MonsterVision really allowed me to see this, back in my highschool days. He was always so unfiltered and loved showing those B movies, and he was so knowledgeable. He still is. I am actually writing Joe Bob a fanmail letter this week and sending it to him, I remember wishing I had done this in highschool, and now I have a second chance to do it. I want to tell him how much I appreciate him and everything he taught me.
So, in all, after years of jumping around from this streaming app and then to the next, I personally am tired of it. I'm tired of the Hollywood crap. I'm tired of the censorship. I'm finally going to start my own home theater collection and I'm starting with Horror and Westerns.
I will also add that Netflix dumping Chucky this past November played a role in this too. Meaning, the concept of having access to something and then it's suddenly taken away became very apparent. So I'm buying Chucky now! 😅 And everything being interconnected or possibly hacked played a role too! Physical Media is simply a safer route and better viewing quality.
I think you are 100% correct! this is like a Renaissance for physical media and more and more people are starting to notice!
@@AVAPopCulture I can't emphasize enough though, for someone like myself who has NOT been a collector over the years (I only have 4 DVDs to my name, although I just bought one more yesterday), a BIG BIG reason that I NOW want to start collecting is the Hollywood PC censorship in COMBINATION WITH what streaming has become. It's like it's all happening at the SAME TIME. Streaming is unraveling and turning into what cable has always been, AND the PC stuff over the past 5 or 6 years has really dumbed-down the BIG Hollywood industry. So, for me, it has led to me finding a channel with someone like yourself who understands this and speaks on it, and your explaining what I have been thinking. And it's led to me wanting to FINALLY invest in physical media. Probably why I always LOVED Joe Bob on MonsterVision going on his RANTS and speaking the truth. He was doing it back then too! Lol. He's good at explaining things. He's a national treasure, IMO. But, for me, to actually want to invest in physical media, trust me, it's a BIG deal. I never would have ever thought I'd be wanting to do it. I think since I work in the history field, I have seen this with politics too and history, so I might be more aware than some people to what is actually happening...and I love movies, so that could be part of it. But again, it's those two key things happening at the SAME TIME that inspired me. The Netflix dumping Chucky was the icing on the cake.
@@AVAPopCultureI also only have an interest in buying physical media that falls under 3 genres and 1 special category: Horror, Western, and Sci-Fi. The special category would be pre Hays Code movies. I have no interest in Rom-Coms, comedies, holiday movies, musicals, dramas, thrillers, dark comedies. I will buy according to the genres of Horror, Western and Sci-Fi, and the pre Hays Code movies. I want more of a cinema experience and not a casual movie experience. 💀🤠👽🎥
@@AVAPopCultureSci-fi and pre Hays Code movies are part of my key interest for purchases, along with the Horror and Westerns. There's a lot of genres I have no interest in spending money on. But those four are good ones. 👻👽🤠🎥
Totally agree with your comments about LG. As long as there are Panasonics, Samsung, Sony etc - nothing to worry about. I have bought a backup machine as well just in case. I certainly do not want to rely on streaming (though I do watch some things that sadly probably never end up on physical media). and prefer bluray / 4K any day. I also daydream about setting up a boutique bluray label and release all my favourite quirky films from the 60s and 70s, probably will need that lottery win for that one though (clearly it can be done as there are a decent number of labels releasing the odd film here and there)
Watch you all the time, love your channel. That's right, my brother, let them know👍🏾 physical media is here to stay💯❤️🇨🇦
Thank you!!! Sometimes you just gotta tell it like it is lol
They did the same thing when Bestbuy decided to quit selling physical media, collectors started be panic as usual. It's never going to die guys, these studios are still selling DVDs to this day even though blu-ray is far superior. There'll be manufacturing new bluray players or a new electronic company will In the future.
yep! and Best Buy leaving opened the door for even more boutiques to start popping up!
Right on brother !!! Facts are facts 💯
No doubt!