I think we can all agree that if Mazda has "declared war on touchscreens" that bodes well for keeping climate controls as physical buttons, at least in Mazdas
@@imnjs i drive a skoda for work that does this, only has buttons for the temp and almost everything else is either auto or has to be set in the screen. Very infuriating and far worse then car's i've driven from the 80's.
@@x-90 I think you’re right. I do like Mazda’s vision though and I wish it would stop being used as a drawback in reviews. I can do 90% of what I need the infotainment to do without taking my eyes off the road. CarPlay and Siri also have a lot to do with that too lol.
Good as they are pointless and annoying when driving. In this day and age you should be able to control everything from the steering wheel and displayed on a heads up display with no need for a large centre screen at all. That should only be used as climate control viewing screen and back up camera etc.
Mazda is right on the touch screen. Once you get used to the wheel, it's far more intuitive and you can do most everything without even looking at the screen. Kudos to Mazda for standing their (correct) ground.
I’ve found Mazdas user interface with the knob is quick and easy to use. I actually prefer it better than the touch screen. Honestly it’s a non issue and won’t impact your enjoyment of the car.
Agreed, I have a '16 Mazda 3 and the knob interface is PERFECT. Tactile feedback, easily located, very very intuitive. My car has a reachable touchscreen (it's before they moved the screen further up in '17 I think) and I've actually used the touch screen in my car maybe 3x in 6 years. The knob/volume dial/wheel control setup is just that good.
@@MadisonFalcoFoods that’s a good point that I didn’t think of, only passengers use the touch screens when I drive as they may not know how to use the knobs/buttons initially.
I think more important than eye sight line moving is, when you operate a touch screen you are more likely to move your upper body to reach something and change your driving position. Maybe for people as tall as Doug this won't happen, but I do feel moving your driving position while operating touch screen is more dangerous. With the control knob you can keep your body in your seat. Even if BMW has a touch screen now I still prefer the control knob.
I agree 100 percent with you, I have no problem with touch screens but I hate the fingerprints they leave. I love the infotainment center that Mazda uses.
I still disagree with the touch screen argument. With a dedicated controller, you can use it from memory without looking at the screen once you have learned it. Car reviewers always say how much easier the touch screens are because they are constantly reviewing a new car every week but the customer is going to own the vehicle for years. Once they have conquered the learning curve of the proprietary controller, they are likely easier to use while driving instead of a touch screen that only has visual feedback.
I agree completely. I’ve always hated using a touchscreen while driving. It’s so weird trying to hit or scroll on something stationary while you’re bumping along on a road.
Nope. The touchscreen has a less complicated experience that gives you easy to see buttons. No complications that you have to learn but just upfront options and views.
@@AnointedFlow Well, I wouldn’t say leaps and bounds … I went from my Mazda to renting a SUV with a touch screen and it’s so much more fuss considering you have to literally hit the app … unlike the touch screen, knobs can turn really fast to get to the next page or going “up” or “down” on music like Spotify … I stand with knobs for that reason while continuing keeping focus safely :)
I just rented a CX-9 for a week. I was surprised by the premium feel of the interior and the use of a knob vs. a touchscreen was a non-issue. After one day, it was easy to use and I knew f I had owned the car vs. rent and personalized the experience, it would be my preference for a UI. I agree with Mazda.
Me too. I own a Cx-9 and it’s not an issue having to use the knob instead of the screen. I actually prefer it over my Volt’s UI, which has a touch screen.
I've driven a few BMWs and also prefer the "knob". So much easier to use while driving. Good luck using touch while driving on a bumpy road. However, Mercedes' trackpad is useless and also their touch controls on the steering wheel.
We bought a 2020 CX 9, because our 21 Sorrento sx prestige x line was in the shop so much and was such a nightmare. I absolutely love it, the handling, interior and the banging system 💕💕. We got the gt which has everything except the super upscale signature trim. I'm in the same boat, I hook up my Bluetooth and drive. The reviewers get all hyped about the next fad, but at the end of the day there are more important things. Mazda absolutely nails it, besides the horrible backup camera that was improved on the 21😂😂😂
@@kevinyum3389 The one I rented was a 2022, so the cameras were clear. It handled well for an suv and the economy was decent for mountain pass driving. I hadn't been in a Mazda for 15 years and I didn't have high expectations, but I was pleasantly surprised even though it was a lower trim model. I'd like to drive a signature version.
As the happy owner of a CX-5 - Mazda is right about the touchscreen. Yes, I had to get familiar with the knob, but my eyes stay on the road, I now know the system and can everything I need with the knob better than the touchscreen. The controls on the center console are right where my hand is. For a car reviewer who doesn't spend enough time with the car to really learn this stuff and have it become routine I can understand how Doug wouldn't like it. When the car is your daily driver for an extended period? It's the best system I've ever used.
Nice insight. It would be nice to see him get the daily driver types for a week or so and really get to know them before reviewing. I wouldn't say that 3 years ago but doug is so big I'd bet a lot of new car buyers do look at his videos
Agreed! I have a Mazda 6 but I’ve rented many vehicles that have touch screen. I still prefer Mazda’s system.When paired with Apple CarPlay, the knob is a godsend.
"but my eyes stay on the road" They literally don't. That's the problem with this type of system. You have to look at the screen for far longer to see what you're doing compared to just take a microsecond to touch what you're looking at. It is OBJECTIVELY less safe to have a control-knob than a touchscreen for infotainment.
They’re definitely not right at all. In your second sentence you prove yourself instantly wrong because you prove it takes getting used to. The wheel might be ok but there’s no legitimate reason that it’s better. All you did was get used to an awkward interface that doesn’t mean it’s better than a touch screen even in the slightest
11:33 "Touchscreens are just more familiar to the customer." I can understand preferring touchscreens over the alternative, but regardless of whether Mazda is right or wrong, I don't see why that would be the case. Most driving-aged people will have a: - TV, with a remote - Console with a controller - PC with a keyboard and mouse - Laptop with a trackpad People are familiar with touchscreens, sure. They are also familiar with buttons and joysticks.
out of all those electronic devices phones are the only ones that require full attention to the input method when using it, and reasonably that is the one device the use of which is banned in many countries while driving.
Doug never mentioned the added things Mazda did like this is the first Mazda SUV with a panoramic sunroof and the fact that they strengthened the pillars to be able strap heavy loads to the roof such as roof tents. Adds to the whole ruggedness and I think that's pretty cool. I also agree with Mazda. Have a Mazda 3 and don't miss the touchscreen one bit. I sit in other cars and automatically reach for a non existent knob
@@henrik1743 "The interior of the CX-50 is pretty similar to that of the CX-5, but features Mazda’s first-ever panoramic sunroof, which is great for marvelling at the beauties of nature." LOL no offense bro but I think you should google the difference between a sunroof and a panoramic sunroof. They are in fact different. Panoramic extends past the front seats and this is the first Mazda vehicle to have a sunroof that extends past the front seats. Even the range topping cx-9 doesn't have one yet.
Do you ever use car play or android auto with your Mazda? If so, what do you think of it? I rented one and could only input directions in google maps letter by letter for some reason. That, and navigating android auto, which was designed for touch screens, was a bit cumbersome as you'd had to scroll all the way around the screen to make a simple selection.
@@mikeLOL45424 I do use android auto and honestly not trying to push Mazda as all that but I did get used to the wheel fairly quickly, like less than a week. For the addresses I usually input them into maps prior to connecting or use voice. I also believe if you're in park and click the search bar in maps it lets you type on your phone unless they removed that feature.
....."Have a Mazda 3 and don't miss the touchscreen one bit. I sit in other cars and automatically reach for a non existent knob"....The same as I am, in my wifes Toyota:)
I got my CX-50 a little over a month ago (polymetal gray ext/terracotta int in the turbo premium trim). I absolutely love the feel of driving the vehicle. One thing I wish Doug would have done is drive it in sport mode. That mode is a lot more responsive with acceleration, there's a big difference between normal and sport. Big. Everything else he said is pretty spot on. It feels fantastic inside (mine also has cooled seats) and the knob system for the infotainment needs is intuitive after a day. I have Android auto and I don't have a single fingerprint on my screen. I never touch it regardless because I like the feel of using the knob for whatever I need. Happy as hell I bought that car.
@@OdieAteACat would’ve been badass as all hell if Mazda optioned a pano moonroof for the higher trimmed Mazda 6’s… but they were adamantly against that for years so multiple other automotive journalists/TH-camrs said…
Have the same set up 4 months ago. Already took it to the dealership twice: once for loosing power all together and second time for a glitchy info system. I really miss dialing my radio stations as I drive Here they make it so complicated. But what a I really hate is the stitching on my ass crack. Seats are really not comfortable at all.
Mazdas pretty right though about touchscreen infotainments in a car. It's the reason we're not supposed to be on our phones while driving after all it's definitely something I think we should commend them for since they're really thinking about the safety of the driver
I think it's a familiarity feel. We're so used to our touchscreen devices, having it in a car is almost second-nature. It gives the whole Mazda lineup this really antiquated feeling. At least give us an option to control it with the touchscreen. I've always had bad luck with the dial where I overshot my location or undercompensated, a touchscreen to me is just so easy.
@@thedumbconspirator4956 absolutely agree, at least give them both. A touch screen could also be used as a backup in case the dial would break, other than letting the passenger control the infotainment system while the driver is driving.
@@thedumbconspirator4956 plug in your phone and start talking to your car. Mazda made their infotainment software very basic for this reason. Once you get that mindset it’s very forward thinking.
@@thedumbconspirator4956 I own a 2021 Mazda 3 hatchback with this same system and what I’ll say is I got used to it pretty fast. Whenever I need an option on Mazda’s UI, I just hold the home button near the dial and through muscle memory, I’m able to do what I need. Until you spend a day to a week with the car entirely, you won’t actually get used to it. That’s why it upsets me whenever Doug argues about the touchscreen because I’m pretty sure he spends a few hours with the car rather than a whole day or week with it.
Of course they are right. All these cars with touchscreens and zero physical buttons make no sense and are dangerous. How is it smart, safe or user friendly to have to navigate to different touch based menus just to adjust the temperature in the car? Or the radio? A physical button you can use without looking.
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I remember back in 2017 when I was working at an auction and I drove a newer Mazda with the updated interiors. It blew me away. Mazda knows how to make a luxurious interior
Been driving a 2016 mazda3 for about a year now and I honestly love not having a touch screen because I never get finger prints on the screen it always looks brand new. Also very happy to see Mazda’s gauge clusters are still analog. Love having a little screen surrounded by analog gauges, makes the car feel more like a car
As well as their willingness to make a car that has the same featureset as similar CUVs that are $10k to $20k more. In this age of absurd car pricing, Mazda has really maintained the bang for the buck factor
Odd segment but coolish car. Disagree with your take on touch screens though. A well designed non-touch infotainment definitely decreases road distractions and is more comfortable to use (no reaching to the top of the dash to do anything). Obviously just my opinion but I think it has merit
I guess a touch screen is cool for the passenger, but as the driver I don't even use my infotainment touch screen, I use the controls on the steering wheel
I'd have to agree, touchscreens are more or less phones after all and if being on your phone while driving is bad and distracting then I'm not sure why infotainments are not treated the same way
Mazda are the Nintendo of cars lol, just off doing their own thing. I love this. Also I have a Mazda3 currently and don't miss the touchscreen at all, I prefer the knob.
@@abdelrahimmohammed1814 really? lol The cx5 is more luxurious and has zero to do with Toyota. There is no real merger here, we are talking about 5% of Mazda being owned by Toyota...
My parents, who are in their 60s, can use the Mazda knob with no problems (including with CarPlay). I don't see it as being a big flaw. Compared to my car, I really do appreciate having the screen in the field of view when I drive their CX-5.
It's not really that this system is "flawed" because it's not meant to be used as a touchscreen, but rather that it is sorta dumb that Mazda is in this war against touch-controlled infotainment systems. Every automaker that has done it before has had to change but they refuse to do it. Audi has ditched the knob thing and Lexus and Mercedes at least put the screens within an arm's reach for those that prefer the touch interface. It's just a war they ain't going to win so why are they still trying even in 2022??
@@PaDutchRunner Just a couple examples. I can say "Play Incubus with Spotify" or "Take me home with Google Maps". And of course you can voice-to-text or call.
@@gersonrendon2188 It's not a war. The market does not need to be homogenous. Doug has just not used the knob enough to get used to it, because anyone who has used it can agree it is overall a very well liked feature. Let's try and keep some variety in our car manufacturers offerings.
I have the same infotainment on the CX-30 and Love the knob control: it’s super fast to get anywhere in the menus and really doesn’t take long to get used to it. It genuinely feels safer and I don’t miss at all a touch screen.
Had one of these as a loaner last week. I much prefer the non touch system to a touch screen. It is very nice and comfortable and easier to keep my eyes on the road. I love touch screens, but this system is far superior in my experience.
Mazda might be right with the non- touchscreen interface. It is starting to be a big thing in Europe. Accidents are happening more often (Up 50 percent in Norway) and experts are questioning touchscreens and lack of buttons.
exactly! Texting and driving is already enough of a problem, and I’m no expert but shoving giant iPads in the middle of dashboards you have to fumble around with whilst driving doesn’t help at all…
imagine if the majority of recent model year cars got outright banned from the road for this even if it could be fixed by refitting actually sensible controls, with the current supply chains many would still be stuck for months
I drove a Mazda3 from 2017 and 2020 and I can't disagree more with you in regards of the infotainment screen. I guess the learning curve is steeper then a "conventional" touchscreen but once you are used to it you don't want to go back. Furthermore, there are physical buttons for everything (air conditioning, seat warmer, windshield whispers) and with Android auto and Carplay you barely need to play with the infotainment system anyway. I whish more manufacturers adopted Mazda's philosophy. *edit: spelling. Plus sad to learn that this vehicle is not coming to Europe.
Coming from someone who has a CX-30 the infotainment system controls become so familiar after such a short time it becomes second nature to use the knobs. While for someone who doesn’t own one but only uses it sometimes (reviewers, rental car users, etc) it may seem more difficult than touchscreen I can say it become so easy and fluid after a short time of daily driving ot!
Just got a 2024 cx50 and love it. The screen, is perfect. Small and you can turn it off without turning off music or maps on the HUD. The dial is easy to use
I also agree, touchscreens in vehicles are not the way to go. It's much nicer to navigate without have to reach over to a screen while you are bouncing around and missing the buttons you are trying to hit. It's also much nicer not to have touchscreens in cold climates where many times the screen won't react to people with gloves on and then they are hitting the screen multiple times instead of paying attention to the road.
Unpopular opinion but I do prefer touch screens, with those dials I've always overshot my location a touchscreen to me is quicker and more intuitive. I use my phone and tablet a lot and a giant touchscreen is just second nature.
@@thedumbconspirator4956 I like touchscreens too as long as they are right in front of me and aren't moving around, both of which don't apply to touchscreens in cars.
Whenever I am driving I always struggle using a touchscreen to do specific inputs (eg selecting a specific song out of a big list). I have the same issue when I have sent texts while driving..... Good on Mazda for sticking to their guns on this one.
@@ForgetfulFoot that's why I like my bmw cause it has a touch screen and a swivel wheel so when i'm driving i'll use the wheel and when i'm parked i'll use touch
He often does a good job with them, but sometimes I wish he would actually compare them a little more seriously with the competition. Saying things like it’s fine, about the same, and the like isn’t really that helpful. Especially considering that vastly more people are going to buy one of these compared to the exotic limited production cars that he goes into minute detail comparing the steering feel on. I know those are more exciting, and that’s what he’s interested in, but he kind of shirks his responsibility when it comes to what people buy. Case in point, he reviewed the competition to this, the Rav-4 and the CR-V and basically said they’re all the same and they’re fine. Okay, but they actually have pretty big differences in cargo room, engines and transmissions, and interior quality. Not to mention handling. So it’s pretty disappointing that he doesn’t even mention them in this review.
I don’t like him reviewing too many boring “normal” cars. People can afford Audis s and rs as well as high performance Germans . I’d like to see more of those.
@@SMor42 when he reviews normal consumer cars it’s aimed more towards the general public just looking for a new car, not so much enthusiasts who do care more about drivetrain and nice interiors
Mazda's infotainment is the best imo, I've owned the '21 Mazda 3 Turbo Hatch for 2 months now and got used to it in no time I've had a way better time using it than other cars with touch screens
I just traded my GLC300 for one of these and I have no regrets! I thoroughly enjoy the styling with my black cladding and 20 inch wheels. I’ve found the infotainment system to be a non-issue. I use Apple CarPlay so it’s always a touch screen except if I’m changing settings in the car. While $40k+ seems like a lot for a non-luxury compact crossover, it’s really not that much more than the competition given how expensive literally everything is these days. The handling is much better than my MB and the heavy steering is no joke, I always feel confident driving it. Not to mention, I know it will be reliable for years to come. It’s a great alternative for those looking to buy a premium crossover. One of my favorite quirky features you can get for the CX-50 is the rooftop tent, in case you ever want to sleep on top of your car!
Mazda's lineup has always felt strange to me. They keep their offerings relatively slim compared to other manufacturers, but then come out with models like this that are barely differentiated from similar models while having huge gaps in their overall offerings
Almost every car journalist / reviewers complain about the lack of a touchscreen because they didn't drive the car not long enough to get used to it. After 1-2weeks I have already developed muscle memory and I guarantee, Mazda's system is easier and faster to do stuff.
The first time I ever test drove a 2014 Mazda 6, I more than halfway figured it out before the dealer copied my ID. And the 2014-2015 6’s infotainment was garbage compared to the 2016-present system (the last gen Mazda 3 somehow came with the good infotainment system from the getgo despite being just about as old as the 6)…
I love, LOVE that they are sticking with knobs and not going with a touch screen, this is actually a huge plus and will tilt me towards buying a Mazda over another brand (all else being equal)
My 60yo mother just bought a 2021 CX-5 Signature edition last fall. The non-touch screen is simple to use with its main 2 dials, and 3 accompanying buttons on the console. Not to mention the heavenly button operated climate controls. She loves it.
2:53 biggest deal about platform which you don't mention is that CX-5 has multi-link rear suspension, while CX-50 has torsion bean (which is very questionable for this car class) 18:58 if you don't fill up this car's gas, most likely they've filled regular gas instead of premium. Mazda says this engine gives 256hp only with premium has, while it is only 220hp with regular. I'm quite sure most owners fill regular these days with 5$+ gas price in California
a reviewer filled the tank with 87 and tested the engine, then filled with 93 and noticed no difference in 0-60 or driving characteristics and said the derating maybe due to adverse wether (very hot) when it has the lower power rating
@@mylenh turbo is quite dependent for the outside temperature that is true, but also after you've switched gas type, you need to drive for a bit to make sure that there is no "old" gas inside the tank and also that engine computer has properly adjusted to new fuel
That's actually really disappointing about the rear suspension. Torsion beams feel awful in anything, but economy car suspension in a car that can easily be optioned to nearly $50k and is billed as having any kind of off-road focus is egregiously bad.
@@jazzbassrocker well, you would think a torsion beam is actually *better* than IRS for off-roading. And by most accounts, Mazda has really tuned this torsion beam platform well on the 3 and CX-30. These cars can take corners very well in most conditions except in high slip, very cracked pavement on one side of the roadway. I suspect the CX-50 handles very competently despite the torsion beam. Don't like it? Mazda will offer the CX-70 with multilink rear suspension and RWD longitudinal engine layout!
I have the non-turbo preferred plus trim and the interior is still pretty upscale, and the acceleration is perfectly adequate. For a normal person like me that doesn’t drive sports cars all the time, I find it quite fun to drive. It also does well on dirt roads that are in bad shape.
I said the same thing when Doug reviewed the CX-30 I love the dial. It is super easy to use and I don't even need to look away from the road. You get used to how far to spin the dial and click the buttons without looking. I don't even daily drive the Mazda 3, and it still is intuitive.
I got one of these a month ago after looking at every other crossover in this price range and I 100% prefer the Mazda system compared to the horrible touchscreens I tried out (Looking at you Subaru). I would also point out that the CX-50 system is a touchscreen. It only works with Carplay which is out main system but honestly the joystick is just more practical.
I've had Mazda's for a long time, (Mazdaspeed3, and a newer Mazda 6) and we have a 2016 CX-5 GT. I like the extended length of this cargo floor. The CX-5 cargo floor was too shallow to put anything like a bicycle in without having to remove at least the front wheel, and I even had issues where strollers took up the whole floor of the hatch when the seats weren't down. Makes vacations with kids a bit limiting on space. I think the added length will be great for Costco trips and less height in the cargo area isn't a problem. Mazda's infotainment has always been 'meh', but I don't ever use a touchscreen. I hate fingerprints all over it. The selection knob in the CX-5 works great and becomes more efficient the more you use it. I hate that everytime I start my CX-5, it warns me about using the media system while driving and I have to acknowledge it to even see the screen. (really annoying). All the Mazda's we've had have been super reliable though, so I'll take that over some minor annoyances with a system I don't use that often. One other quirk about the CX-5 is that it's Washer Fluid warnings are very annoying and persistent. If you're low on fluid, it pops up the warning ON TOP of the radar cruise control display and prevents you from seeing anything related to what your speed is set to or what your follow distance is even while you're driving on the highway before you acknowledge that warning......but it pops up every 5 minutes while you're driving! Who is gonna change their wiper fluid while driving 70mph on the highway? In terms of engine response, my CX-5 has sport mode on the 2.5 engine, and throttle response is way better in that mode than it is in the base mode, which really prefers fuel economy. It feels like a very different car on sport mode.
You actually don't have to hit accept on the mazda info screen. I don't think I ever have in my 16 mazda 6. You can just wait a few seconds and it goes away lol
I have a CX-9 with touchscreen, and knob. Always use the knob and always with Apple CarPlay and can do it comfortably in a normal driving position with my arm on the arm-rest. The buttons around the knob work with car play to switch between maps, music, Home Screen etc, and physical knob for volume/track change is right there too!
A+ vote FOR the touchscreen. I have a 2020 CX5. I read all the knocks on the touchscreen before buying, and I have to say I’m now a fan. No more reaching towards the dash. That movement is hazardous because you’re moving your body and eyes away from the road. With the wheel, you may have an extra click but you’re not distracted from the road. It’s like using a computer mouse. You pick it up quickly.
Audi used an almost identical scroll / click wheel thing for years. I had one for years. It doesn't take long to get used to, and really is much easier to use while driving than a touchscreen.
Mazdas are pretty fun to drive, I completely agree Doug. I have a 2012 Mazda speed 3 and the turbo in that car, makes it feel much faster than it really is.
I have a 2011 Mazda3 with the 2.5 liter naturally aspirated engine. I get so envious whenever I see a speed3 haha. at least it's a manual, so it's still fun even though i'm only working with 167 horsepower.
Have had my CX-5 for nearly 8 years and it still feels new, virtually no problems and super cheap to maintain, still a very fun drive too, its a peppy little thing. Have to agree with everyone else too who has interacted with Mazdas infotainment, I prefer the rotary knob. It becomes intuitive and I always miss it when I go to our Touchscreen Accord.
Coming from someone who’s owned two Mazda3s with the commander knobs, they are 100% superior once you spend time and get used to one! No more fingerprints, scratches, fumbling for hard to press buttons, etc. I absolutely love Mazdas system. Audi and BMW have also used very similar concepts in their vehicles and I’ve liked their implementation too.
I find the interface with the wheel to be far superior to any touchscreen I've worked with. It's aesthetically pleasing, keeps the screen in plain view during driving, and makes it much easier to run through menus when driving.
The turbo engine only gets 256hp when running on 93 octane, which I don't believe CA has. Otherwise it's 227hp, which is probably what you had during the drive.
@MattLT4 it won't make 256hp on 91 octane but it won't just make 227 either. The power output actually scales somewhat linearly with octane number. On 89, it'll make somewhere in the high 230hp range, for instance.
Great Review Doug! The Mazda Cx-50 Positions itself as the more "Do it all" younger brother of the CX-5. Based on the small product architecture of the Mazda3 and Cx-30 it provides a familiar and engaging driving experience compared to the disconnected feel of most of its competitors. The Cx-50 carries the stylish exterior and interior of the CX-5 and takes it up a notch. The biggest notable differences being: Improved passenger and cargo space, Sharper cameras, wireless carplay and android auto, partial touch screen capability, and trail worthiness!
I have a 2020 Mazda 3 hatchback with a lot of features this cx-50 has and I absolutely love it. The infotainment system is incredible and I’ve been so happy with it. I never get finger prints on my screen and it stays clean. I can usually do everything I need in 2-3 quick taps and dial turns. Or you can use voice commands with the integrated apple car play. I feel like it definitely comes down to personal preference though.
I enjoy the use of the knob. Your arm never has to leave its resting position. Even the volume knob right there is perfect. Hate having to reach for a little volume knob and try to adjust it precisely.
I just bought this in the highest package (all they had available) and I absolutely love it. It feels far more expensive that it was (about $42k). The infotainment system is something I actually prefer. I had touch screen before on my Honda HRV and it drove me bananas. It was always dirty with fingerprints and I couldn’t use it while driving. And it was slow. This system is beautifully designed (though some settings are in unexpected places). I also agree with many other commenters that I like the screen where it is - it’s much easier to see while I’m driving than it would be if it was lower and I love it. I don’t need to touch it. One thing to note - it won’t fit large (bigger than 20oz) cups otherwise it will cover the climate controls. My only annoyance so far.
@@AvojEtc Yeah I feel like they're getting closer to Subaru Outback dimensions with this car. I think there is a Ford Fusion in the works with similar wagon-SUV styling as well.
Touchscreens are also bad from a usability perspective. When I'm bumping down the road I can miss the "button" on the screen I want and either get nothing, or it does something I didn't want. Which means more time fumbling around with the screen. Luckily in my Challenger everything important can be done from the steering wheel or physical buttons in the center stack. I only use the touch screen for android auto or to choose between my different performance options/burnout modes.
Thank you for this review. Please, please make more reviews of "normal" cars! I mean current models, not only for enthusiasts but also for people considering their next car.
Everyone complains about the "non-touchscreen", however if you live with it daily you get way more used to it! I love the knob setup! I actually went back home where my parents have a 21 Toyota Venza w/ touchscreen and I found it quite weird using it and actually didn't like touching the screen because of how long my eyes were off the road! Mazda is right in the fact that your eyes stay more on the road with the knob setup!
Same here! Currently in a rental Malibu while my MX-5 is in the shop and I hate the touchscreen! The position and angle of the Malibu’s screen makes no sense and I miss my Miata’s command knob every time I have to drive this darn boat.
Yes, when I get into a modern Toyota from my Mazda it is terrible. If I'm in android auto and I hit the nav button it takes me to the factory maps instead of my Google maps which are currently navigating. When I plug in my phone I have to press three times on the touchscreen to get to my Google maps. With the Mazda, I just start driving and my maps will come up. It also starts playing my previous music without pressing anything. With the Toyota the navigation volume is hidden in the settings and I wouldn't dare try to navigate the settings while driving down the road. With the Mazda you hit the test sound button in google maps and scroll the volume knob while it plays, so easy. I just end up muting navigation in the Toyota and missing my turn.
@Diogo having the option of both would be ideal. There are plenty of times I wish I could use the touchscreen in the MX-5 to do just a quick task. Which is annoying because it has a touchscreen that can be used, the car just needs to be stopped. But more often then not I prefer the knob to control everything. Even more ideal would be a knob with haptic feedback, when scrolling to an end point if the knob vibrated or became harder to twist with some force feedback that would be especially nice.
@@lordflyquad4721 For real! 🤣 pressing on the throttle takes multiple seconds of waiting before the car reacts. Steering is numb and floaty, and the interior is just nothing but garbage plastic, who actively buys these??
I find the knob way easier than touchscreen, lets say you are driving on a bumpy road and trying to use the touchscreen you end up touching every other setting other than the one you want to touch whereas the knob you just select it and click it, simple, fast, convenience and easy to remember
i have been binge watching these for ages.i thought i was a car guy but you have shown me so many cars i had never heard of.you can tell you would happily do this even if youtube didn't exist or you made no money out of it and it is refreshing to see
I've driven a 2021 Mazda3 Hatchback for almost 3 years now and I've totally had my mind changed on touch screen interfaces in cars. Sure they're nice if they're available, but honestly having the tactile interface with the notched center dial and buttons and stuff makes it so that I can navigate the menus pretty effortlessly without taking my focus off the road. They're done very tastefully, you don't have to move your arm from its resting position, and not having fingerprints all over your screen is also nice.
I've had my CX-30 Turbo (which was at the top of the comparison list) for about a year and a half. I LOVE it. Same power train as it's new big brother, but enough weight difference that mine is very fun to drive. Mazda interior may not be quite on par with a true luxury brand, but it definitely feels nicer than most. I'm keeping mine.
@@tinhinnh For pure speed and handling, I'd say that's correct. However, I live in the mountains. Fun twisty paved roads AND fun rough roads. It is NOT a proper off-roader. But, surprising what it can do.
For 2024, Mazda softened the ride and steering. Just took a second test drive...it was amazing. Power delivery is a little boggy when in Normal Mode. Switch it to Sport and it comes to life. Running 91/93 is paramount to uncork even more fun. It's a crazyFun sports wagon "CUV" esp. with the PremiumPlusTurboAWD and terracotta interior. Got one on order.
I love the dial after using it for a while! It’s intuitive and you don’t have to take your focus off the road. Just like not having capacitive volume or temp controls.
A big reason why the 256 feels like 216 is that it is probably on regular fuel, providing only ~225 hp. when you put premium it bumps up to the full 256 @doug demuro
It is THE SAME ISSUE as in other versions of this Mazda SkyActiv T-2.5L. You put 93 US octane premium fuel (and its' wildly fluctuating price premium) and the output jumps to 250-256hp / 184-188 kW depending on model. You can put good ol' 87 US octane regular fuel and the output is tamed to 227hp / 167 kW no matter the model. But those 310 lb-ft / 420 n-M of torque are ALWAYS available on ANY compatible fuel, so that's something to figure depending on the use this crossover would mostly be on... (AFAIK, no other engine has this much difference between fuels this side of the Dodge Challenger Demon with 808hp / 594 kW on 93 US octane pump gas vs. 840hp / 618 kW on 100 US octane racing fuel with the proper setting dialed in)
I was very excited for the CX-50, but I have to say I’m not sold on it. Too many hard plastics inside and out. The CX-5 looks more premium and has a nicer interior.
Technically you are correct. I made a list of what's better from what I can think of: Quality rear doors, rear center armrest storage, 40-20-40 seats, felt-lined glovebox, black headliner, real wood
FWIW, I've owned a CX-30 (same infotainment as the CX-50) for a few months now and it only took a week or 2 for me to get used to it. To echo what others have said, it has the following advantages over touchscreens: - can be placed closer to your line of vision since it doesn't need to be within arm's reach - no fingerprints on your screen - bumpy roads don't make you accidentally tap the wrong buttons - you can memorize the menu navigation and don't have to look at the screen for some things - you can just press the mic button on the steering wheel to invoke Google Assistant/Siri and talk instead of typing Yes - people expect, and are used to, touchscreen infotainment systems. But I think most who live with Mazda's infotainment for a couple weeks come around to their stance on the matter.
The 20" wheels are absurd. It looks great on the 17" wheels. If I bought the turbo I would consider selling the 20"s and downsizing to the lower-model's 17"s. I think the smaller wheels look better, they probably ride more comfortably, definitely would be better for anything "off-roady", have better protection against road hazards, and have many more tire options and better tire prices.
The front of the CX-5 is the best looking of any crossover hands down. It's the most aggressive and defined. Then when you get in Red, hands down best looking crossover from the front. The rear is fairly bland though. The worst part about the cx-5 is the seats though. The lumbar is lacking and it doesn't recline in the same manner US cars do so if feels fairly rather upright with no support.
Actually there are some reviews out there with the non-turbo engine. The consensus is that the naturally aspirated engine does fine. If all your needs is a daily driver. But if you're looking at doing a lot of towing, the turbo engine is the obvious choice.
I just got my new CX50 a couple of days ago-to early to make a real review. HOWEVER, I just want to share a few things. It is a significantly higher quality car than my 2014 Mazda 3. The doors close better, the touch screen works, the Bluetooth actually connects with my iphone, etc. There is a button to open/close the rear hatch. The active cruise control works so good for me. I just drove home yesterday in bad traffic. It was like magic. It came to a crawl, went up to 50 and to a stop-every time. So much less stressful. It does get poor overall gas milage. However, my Mazda 3 never got close the advertised highway mileage. The CX-50 is advertised to get 30 on the highway. I got 31 mpg at 65mph. City driving does get poor gas mileage-as advertised. The seats are great for small people. The screen knob is great for people with small arms.
One of the biggest reasons a 2022 Mazda3 Turbo is my dream car is actually because it has no touchscreen. I have worked in the tech field for a few years and the downside to tech in cars is how it ages poorly, touchscreens especially. It dates the car while also distracting you from the road. Because of how simple the display is, Mazda managed to create something that you can't really tell how old it is. I installed a touchscreen on my mazda3 using an aftermarket stereo, and immediately returned it. Having to touch a screen to navigate while driving sucked, I much rather have physical controls and buttons that I don't have to look at, especially since the screen in these cars is in the FOV.
Looks 100 x times better than the oddly proportioned CX-5. I like the traditional, safe, reliable and functional knobs and buttons a lot more than the average EV interior.
I have a mazda3. I was not fond of the knob at first but oh my was I wrong? I love that my muscle memory works for me better when I'm driving. And honestly I rarely touch the screen even when I'm parked or stopped. Mazda for the win
I just bought one of these. If you run premium gas in the turbo engine, then it’s much peppier and you get the full 25x horsepower. Doug’s model might have had low octane gas in it which is why it felt like low 200’s hp, which is precisely what it was achieving. The lack of touchscreen was my biggest concern, but I got used to the joystick very quickly and frankly I prefer the joystick over touchscreen now. I drove a friend’s RAV4 recently and was very distracted and annoyed with having to use a touchscreen. Note that the touchscreen feature on the CX-50 for CarPlay and Android Auto is only functional when the car is stopped; it is not a touchscreen while in motion. Overall I would rate the CX-50 4.5 out of 5 stars, mostly for a few minor build quality issues being in the first year of production.
Yeah, the Skyactiv-G is a high compression ratio engine in its NA version. In a turbo charged setup, you definitely want a high octane gas, otherwise the computer will cut some power to avoid engine knock. It was the same with the turbo version of the Mazda 3, high octane recommended for full power.
Kudos to Mazda for making a car like this. But… for the lifestyle Doug is referencing, Mazda is going to have a tough time competing with Subaru imo. I am the type to hike, mountain bike, climb, ski, backpack, you name it. The way Outback and Forester have implemented so many features such as the built in cross bars on the Outback and now the Wilderness editions is going to be tough competition. Subie people are loyal to their brand and will usually convince their friends/family who have similar hobbies to get a Subaru. Source: I am a Subaru
My sister has a CX-5, and it's really a comfortable little car. She and both are fans of cloth seats, cause we have both experienced vinyl seats and leather. Getting into a car with both vinyl and leather seats is the same torture when you sit on them when the interior is hot (like when you come back to the car after you have been in the grocery store for half an hour on a hot day).
I got the CX-50 because the CX 5 had worse seats and teh cabin space was tiny. I found the frame of the car in my blindspot on the driver side compared to teh cx-50 and I love the extra space for my legs which makes it feel better. I had a soul previously and the non turbo CX-50 felt so much more sporty and still fun. It is no slouch at all compared to the sluggish Suburu Forester I tested which the CVT took all life out of it
Are the cx-50 front seats larger than the cx-5 front seats? Has been my only complaint about the cx-5. The seat bottoms are a little small and can become uncomfortable on long drives.
@@charlessigmonjr.6552 Yes the seats are bigger and more comfy than the 5. I test drove both and picked the 50 for that reason. Also there is more space between you and the dash compared to the 5
100% agree with Doug regarding the touchscreen. I test drove a CX-5 earlier this year and cannot overstate how bad the system is. it is objectively LESS safe than a touchscreen simply due to the fact that your eyes are off the road for so much longer when you use a control-knob vs. just taking a microsecond to touch something.
Just wanted to say, I have a touch screen in my vehicle and my wife has a mazda cx 9. I one thousand percent prefer the knob to control as I just find it easier to use even though I use her vehicle less than mine.
i appreciate Mazda not going all touch screen. beautiful interior im sure very fun to drive but hell, simplicity is the greatest luxury in the price range lol
Squared-off lines, black plastics... It's basically a Subaru with a different name. Wouldn't say it stands out more and is less generic, then. All SUVs look exactly like this nowadays. At least Mazda puts real torque converter automatic transmissions and not those shitty CVTs all other Japanese makers are in love with, for some reason.
It's basically a Subaru without the POS CVT, which Subaru needs to get rid of yesterday and step up to the plate by offering a TRUE 8 or 9 Speed Automatic transmission with at least two or three dedicated lower gears for optimal lower torque output and better handling traction for off-road driving. And it's LONG OVERDUE!!!!!
@@P00katube Exactly! It doesn't stand out as much as Doug says because it has all the classic characteristics every modern SUV offers. Nothing special. As for the CVTs, Honda offers its excellent 10-Speed automatic in the Odyssey minivan, so it's hypocritical putting a real automatic transmission in a car not suited for sporty driving and, at the same time, offering the small, light and agile Civics and Integras with a CVT. Mazda gains a few points on this matter, although 6 gears are just too few these days for an automatic.
@@P00katube I have a new Subaru. It fakes gearshifts. If they're going to go to all that trouble and negate the advantages of a CVT, why not just put a real geared automatic in?
I’ve owned a Mazda for 5 years and I completely agree with you on the knob, for the most part. It takes more concentration to click around and find stuff than just poking the screen
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I think we can all agree that if Mazda has "declared war on touchscreens" that bodes well for keeping climate controls as physical buttons, at least in Mazdas
I can't fathom having to use a touchscreen for climate control. Especially if it's hidden behind a main menu.
@@imnjs i drive a skoda for work that does this, only has buttons for the temp and almost everything else is either auto or has to be set in the screen. Very infuriating and far worse then car's i've driven from the 80's.
I think a combination of touch and dials is the best of both worlds
@@x-90 I think you’re right. I do like Mazda’s vision though and I wish it would stop being used as a drawback in reviews. I can do 90% of what I need the infotainment to do without taking my eyes off the road. CarPlay and Siri also have a lot to do with that too lol.
Good as they are pointless and annoying when driving. In this day and age you should be able to control everything from the steering wheel and displayed on a heads up display with no need for a large centre screen at all. That should only be used as climate control viewing screen and back up camera etc.
Mazda is right on the touch screen. Once you get used to the wheel, it's far more intuitive and you can do most everything without even looking at the screen. Kudos to Mazda for standing their (correct) ground.
Yeah, couldn’t agree more. I went to a touch screen and I miss the ease of the dial. Way easy and convenient once you get used to it.
Agree completely!
i use voice commands for it in my 2020 6
and my touch screen works if you are rolling at less than 5 mph in my experience lol
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I’ve found Mazdas user interface with the knob is quick and easy to use. I actually prefer it better than the touch screen. Honestly it’s a non issue and won’t impact your enjoyment of the car.
Agreed, I have a '16 Mazda 3 and the knob interface is PERFECT. Tactile feedback, easily located, very very intuitive. My car has a reachable touchscreen (it's before they moved the screen further up in '17 I think) and I've actually used the touch screen in my car maybe 3x in 6 years. The knob/volume dial/wheel control setup is just that good.
I have a cx-5 and I only miss a touch screen during driving when I have a passenger but they get used to it quickly
I’m quite fond of the knob too on my CX-30
@@MadisonFalcoFoods that’s a good point that I didn’t think of, only passengers use the touch screens when I drive as they may not know how to use the knobs/buttons initially.
I think more important than eye sight line moving is, when you operate a touch screen you are more likely to move your upper body to reach something and change your driving position. Maybe for people as tall as Doug this won't happen, but I do feel moving your driving position while operating touch screen is more dangerous. With the control knob you can keep your body in your seat. Even if BMW has a touch screen now I still prefer the control knob.
Not having a touch screen is a HUGE plus in my opinion. In fact, I love how small the whole setup is.
I agree 100 percent with you, I have no problem with touch screens but I hate the fingerprints they leave. I love the infotainment center that Mazda uses.
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It does have a touch screen.. if you use Car Play or Android Auto
@@theonly_ElonMusk pretty far to reach tho as mentioned in the video
I still disagree with the touch screen argument. With a dedicated controller, you can use it from memory without looking at the screen once you have learned it. Car reviewers always say how much easier the touch screens are because they are constantly reviewing a new car every week but the customer is going to own the vehicle for years.
Once they have conquered the learning curve of the proprietary controller, they are likely easier to use while driving instead of a touch screen that only has visual feedback.
I agree completely. I’ve always hated using a touchscreen while driving. It’s so weird trying to hit or scroll on something stationary while you’re bumping along on a road.
Nope. The touchscreen has a less complicated experience that gives you easy to see buttons. No complications that you have to learn but just upfront options and views.
@AnointedFlow I mean its not complicated, sorry bud its just you
@@NoSmileification it's not just me clearly from the guy the video. Touch screen is just leaps and bounds better.
@@AnointedFlow Well, I wouldn’t say leaps and bounds … I went from my Mazda to renting a SUV with a touch screen and it’s so much more fuss considering you have to literally hit the app … unlike the touch screen, knobs can turn really fast to get to the next page or going “up” or “down” on music like Spotify … I stand with knobs for that reason while continuing keeping focus safely :)
I just rented a CX-9 for a week. I was surprised by the premium feel of the interior and the use of a knob vs. a touchscreen was a non-issue. After one day, it was easy to use and I knew f I had owned the car vs. rent and personalized the experience, it would be my preference for a UI. I agree with Mazda.
Me too. I own a Cx-9 and it’s not an issue having to use the knob instead of the screen. I actually prefer it over my Volt’s UI, which has a touch screen.
I've driven a few BMWs and also prefer the "knob". So much easier to use while driving. Good luck using touch while driving on a bumpy road. However, Mercedes' trackpad is useless and also their touch controls on the steering wheel.
We bought a 2020 CX 9, because our 21 Sorrento sx prestige x line was in the shop so much and was such a nightmare.
I absolutely love it, the handling, interior and the banging system 💕💕. We got the gt which has everything except the super upscale signature trim. I'm in the same boat, I hook up my Bluetooth and drive.
The reviewers get all hyped about the next fad, but at the end of the day there are more important things.
Mazda absolutely nails it, besides the horrible backup camera that was improved on the 21😂😂😂
I rented a Mazda 3 in 2016 and it was excellent. They have some of the best looking new cars on the road
@@kevinyum3389 The one I rented was a 2022, so the cameras were clear. It handled well for an suv and the economy was decent for mountain pass driving. I hadn't been in a Mazda for 15 years and I didn't have high expectations, but I was pleasantly surprised even though it was a lower trim model. I'd like to drive a signature version.
As the happy owner of a CX-5 - Mazda is right about the touchscreen. Yes, I had to get familiar with the knob, but my eyes stay on the road, I now know the system and can everything I need with the knob better than the touchscreen. The controls on the center console are right where my hand is. For a car reviewer who doesn't spend enough time with the car to really learn this stuff and have it become routine I can understand how Doug wouldn't like it. When the car is your daily driver for an extended period? It's the best system I've ever used.
Nice insight. It would be nice to see him get the daily driver types for a week or so and really get to know them before reviewing. I wouldn't say that 3 years ago but doug is so big I'd bet a lot of new car buyers do look at his videos
Agreed! I have a Mazda 6 but I’ve rented many vehicles that have touch screen. I still prefer Mazda’s system.When paired with Apple CarPlay, the knob is a godsend.
Well , i assumed there was no way you can return the vehicle and end up getting used to . . . 😂
"but my eyes stay on the road"
They literally don't. That's the problem with this type of system. You have to look at the screen for far longer to see what you're doing compared to just take a microsecond to touch what you're looking at. It is OBJECTIVELY less safe to have a control-knob than a touchscreen for infotainment.
They’re definitely not right at all. In your second sentence you prove yourself instantly wrong because you prove it takes getting used to. The wheel might be ok but there’s no legitimate reason that it’s better. All you did was get used to an awkward interface that doesn’t mean it’s better than a touch screen even in the slightest
11:33 "Touchscreens are just more familiar to the customer."
I can understand preferring touchscreens over the alternative, but regardless of whether Mazda is right or wrong, I don't see why that would be the case. Most driving-aged people will have a:
- TV, with a remote
- Console with a controller
- PC with a keyboard and mouse
- Laptop with a trackpad
People are familiar with touchscreens, sure. They are also familiar with buttons and joysticks.
Exactly.
Great Explanation! Very True
out of all those electronic devices phones are the only ones that require full attention to the input method when using it, and reasonably that is the one device the use of which is banned in many countries while driving.
I agree idk what is up with Doug. He’s always wrong about shit like this every single time.
Doug never mentioned the added things Mazda did like this is the first Mazda SUV with a panoramic sunroof and the fact that they strengthened the pillars to be able strap heavy loads to the roof such as roof tents. Adds to the whole ruggedness and I think that's pretty cool. I also agree with Mazda. Have a Mazda 3 and don't miss the touchscreen one bit. I sit in other cars and automatically reach for a non existent knob
Lol what you on about? Mazda has had panoramic sunroof for at least 10 years in sweden on the Cx-5?
@@henrik1743 "The interior of the CX-50 is pretty similar to that of the CX-5, but features Mazda’s first-ever panoramic sunroof, which is great for marvelling at the beauties of nature."
LOL no offense bro but I think you should google the difference between a sunroof and a panoramic sunroof. They are in fact different. Panoramic extends past the front seats and this is the first Mazda vehicle to have a sunroof that extends past the front seats. Even the range topping cx-9 doesn't have one yet.
Do you ever use car play or android auto with your Mazda? If so, what do you think of it?
I rented one and could only input directions in google maps letter by letter for some reason. That, and navigating android auto, which was designed for touch screens, was a bit cumbersome as you'd had to scroll all the way around the screen to make a simple selection.
@@mikeLOL45424 I do use android auto and honestly not trying to push Mazda as all that but I did get used to the wheel fairly quickly, like less than a week. For the addresses I usually input them into maps prior to connecting or use voice. I also believe if you're in park and click the search bar in maps it lets you type on your phone unless they removed that feature.
....."Have a Mazda 3 and don't miss the touchscreen one bit. I sit in other cars and automatically reach for a non existent knob"....The same as I am, in my wifes Toyota:)
I got my CX-50 a little over a month ago (polymetal gray ext/terracotta int in the turbo premium trim). I absolutely love the feel of driving the vehicle. One thing I wish Doug would have done is drive it in sport mode. That mode is a lot more responsive with acceleration, there's a big difference between normal and sport. Big.
Everything else he said is pretty spot on. It feels fantastic inside (mine also has cooled seats) and the knob system for the infotainment needs is intuitive after a day. I have Android auto and I don't have a single fingerprint on my screen. I never touch it regardless because I like the feel of using the knob for whatever I need.
Happy as hell I bought that car.
Ditto. Same specs and same idea on the sport mode. Also missed the panoramic roof with is pretty nice.
@@Javier_triana yeah, you're right about that, too. The panoramic is very nice. Im very happy with mine.
@@OdieAteACat would’ve been badass as all hell if Mazda optioned a pano moonroof for the higher trimmed Mazda 6’s… but they were adamantly against that for years so multiple other automotive journalists/TH-camrs said…
@@schwenda3727 oh yes. That would have been really incredible looking.
Have the same set up 4 months ago. Already took it to the dealership twice: once for loosing power all together and second time for a glitchy info system. I really miss dialing my radio stations as I drive Here they make it so complicated.
But what a I really hate is the stitching on my ass crack. Seats are really not comfortable at all.
Mazdas pretty right though about touchscreen infotainments in a car. It's the reason we're not supposed to be on our phones while driving after all it's definitely something I think we should commend them for since they're really thinking about the safety of the driver
I think it's a familiarity feel. We're so used to our touchscreen devices, having it in a car is almost second-nature. It gives the whole Mazda lineup this really antiquated feeling. At least give us an option to control it with the touchscreen. I've always had bad luck with the dial where I overshot my location or undercompensated, a touchscreen to me is just so easy.
@@thedumbconspirator4956 absolutely agree, at least give them both. A touch screen could also be used as a backup in case the dial would break, other than letting the passenger control the infotainment system while the driver is driving.
@@thedumbconspirator4956 plug in your phone and start talking to your car. Mazda made their infotainment software very basic for this reason. Once you get that mindset it’s very forward thinking.
@@thedumbconspirator4956 I own a 2021 Mazda 3 hatchback with this same system and what I’ll say is I got used to it pretty fast. Whenever I need an option on Mazda’s UI, I just hold the home button near the dial and through muscle memory, I’m able to do what I need. Until you spend a day to a week with the car entirely, you won’t actually get used to it. That’s why it upsets me whenever Doug argues about the touchscreen because I’m pretty sure he spends a few hours with the car rather than a whole day or week with it.
Of course they are right. All these cars with touchscreens and zero physical buttons make no sense and are dangerous. How is it smart, safe or user friendly to have to navigate to different touch based menus just to adjust the temperature in the car? Or the radio?
A physical button you can use without looking.
As a Mazda owner the knob is way better than touch screen. I can use it as a touch screen when Parked but I still prefer the knob
I just got a 2022 CX5 carbon edition. Love it, I prefer the knob myself.
Couldn't agree more. I own 3 Mazdas (2 2017s and a 2021) and I rarely use the touch screens
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Except for when you are punching in an address. If you are parked, using a touchscreen keyboard is easier.
I remember back in 2017 when I was working at an auction and I drove a newer Mazda with the updated interiors. It blew me away. Mazda knows how to make a luxurious interior
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That's why I bought my 2019 mazda 3 and why I will switch to the cx-60 now (cx-70 in the US)
Been driving a 2016 mazda3 for about a year now and I honestly love not having a touch screen because I never get finger prints on the screen it always looks brand new. Also very happy to see Mazda’s gauge clusters are still analog. Love having a little screen surrounded by analog gauges, makes the car feel more like a car
I really appreciate how Mazda makes an honest effort to do their own thing - very much a refreshing take on the sea of sameness out there.
Just like women they all look the same as well
@@drippgxd I could make a “just like every other guy” comment, but you’ve already done a fine job at stereotyping.
@@aislingmairead4939 you’re cute
@@georgejungle138 bro stop cheating on your wife go raise your kids
As well as their willingness to make a car that has the same featureset as similar CUVs that are $10k to $20k more. In this age of absurd car pricing, Mazda has really maintained the bang for the buck factor
Odd segment but coolish car. Disagree with your take on touch screens though. A well designed non-touch infotainment definitely decreases road distractions and is more comfortable to use (no reaching to the top of the dash to do anything). Obviously just my opinion but I think it has merit
I guess a touch screen is cool for the passenger, but as the driver I don't even use my infotainment touch screen, I use the controls on the steering wheel
Agreed. I prefer the knob ubmx system in my 2019 C-Class over the GM system from my old 2019 Silverado. It's so easy to use and I don't have to look.
I agree
I leave mine on the music screen and leave the button on the pause option
Makes it very easy to use
I'd have to agree, touchscreens are more or less phones after all and if being on your phone while driving is bad and distracting then I'm not sure why infotainments are not treated the same way
I test drove the CX-50, and I got a grasp of the controls withing 5-10 min of driving. Not bad at all.
Mazda are the Nintendo of cars lol, just off doing their own thing.
I love this.
Also I have a Mazda3 currently and don't miss the touchscreen at all, I prefer the knob.
They're driver cars. My friend refers to mine as a space ship.
@@charleslloyd400 SAME my friends always call mine a spaceship
Same here. Love my mazda 3 and the knob and Infotainment is totally intuativ and easy to use without distraction
Their quality definitely went up after their merger with Toyota
@@abdelrahimmohammed1814 really? lol The cx5 is more luxurious and has zero to do with Toyota. There is no real merger here, we are talking about 5% of Mazda being owned by Toyota...
My parents, who are in their 60s, can use the Mazda knob with no problems (including with CarPlay). I don't see it as being a big flaw. Compared to my car, I really do appreciate having the screen in the field of view when I drive their CX-5.
CarPlay and Siri are a godsend. I’m sure it’s the same for Android Auto.
@@imnjs what does Siri do for you? I pretty much ignore it.
It's not really that this system is "flawed" because it's not meant to be used as a touchscreen, but rather that it is sorta dumb that Mazda is in this war against touch-controlled infotainment systems. Every automaker that has done it before has had to change but they refuse to do it. Audi has ditched the knob thing and Lexus and Mercedes at least put the screens within an arm's reach for those that prefer the touch interface. It's just a war they ain't going to win so why are they still trying even in 2022??
@@PaDutchRunner Just a couple examples. I can say "Play Incubus with Spotify" or "Take me home with Google Maps". And of course you can voice-to-text or call.
@@gersonrendon2188 It's not a war. The market does not need to be homogenous. Doug has just not used the knob enough to get used to it, because anyone who has used it can agree it is overall a very well liked feature.
Let's try and keep some variety in our car manufacturers offerings.
I have the same infotainment on the CX-30 and Love the knob control: it’s super fast to get anywhere in the menus and really doesn’t take long to get used to it. It genuinely feels safer and I don’t miss at all a touch screen.
Had one of these as a loaner last week. I much prefer the non touch system to a touch screen. It is very nice and comfortable and easier to keep my eyes on the road.
I love touch screens, but this system is far superior in my experience.
I’m glad Mazda is going against the grain on the infotainment system. There are many who prefer this type of set up to a touch screen
I prefer BMW who offers both. I can use the knob if I want and I can touch the screen too... Doesn't Lexus also do that in its newer cars?
there are more that prefer touch screen...
@@MrOscar5690 But they are more dangerous systems to use. Learn to use this over time, muscle memory will be much more safer.
@@MrTresto Lexus does. Or at least did on my mom's RC.
@@MrTresto Cadillac uses both also.
Mazda might be right with the non- touchscreen interface. It is starting to be a big thing in Europe. Accidents are happening more often (Up 50 percent in Norway) and experts are questioning touchscreens and lack of buttons.
exactly! Texting and driving is already enough of a problem, and I’m no expert but shoving giant iPads in the middle of dashboards you have to fumble around with whilst driving doesn’t help at all…
imagine if the majority of recent model year cars got outright banned from the road for this
even if it could be fixed by refitting actually sensible controls, with the current supply chains many would still be stuck for months
Who are the “experts” lmfao
Lots of Teslas in Norway too from what I hear ... Which is basically a tablet on 4 wheels.
I drove a Mazda3 from 2017 and 2020 and I can't disagree more with you in regards of the infotainment screen. I guess the learning curve is steeper then a "conventional" touchscreen but once you are used to it you don't want to go back. Furthermore, there are physical buttons for everything (air conditioning, seat warmer, windshield whispers) and with Android auto and Carplay you barely need to play with the infotainment system anyway. I whish more manufacturers adopted Mazda's philosophy.
*edit: spelling. Plus sad to learn that this vehicle is not coming to Europe.
I’ve always preferred a non touch infotainment screen. More comfortable and the screen stays clean.
Well you guys get the CX-60 :P
Edit: And Skyactiv-X
Let's not forget that touchscreens impair your driving more than being drunk, they are right.
@@vipermoon_ True, but that will be out of my price range. But that's a me problem haha.
Coming from someone who has a CX-30 the infotainment system controls become so familiar after such a short time it becomes second nature to use the knobs. While for someone who doesn’t own one but only uses it sometimes (reviewers, rental car users, etc) it may seem more difficult than touchscreen I can say it become so easy and fluid after a short time of daily driving ot!
Just got a 2024 cx50 and love it. The screen, is perfect. Small and you can turn it off without turning off music or maps on the HUD. The dial is easy to use
I also agree, touchscreens in vehicles are not the way to go. It's much nicer to navigate without have to reach over to a screen while you are bouncing around and missing the buttons you are trying to hit. It's also much nicer not to have touchscreens in cold climates where many times the screen won't react to people with gloves on and then they are hitting the screen multiple times instead of paying attention to the road.
that’s why some brands have touch screen and a swivel wheel or a personal assistant
Unpopular opinion but I do prefer touch screens, with those dials I've always overshot my location a touchscreen to me is quicker and more intuitive. I use my phone and tablet a lot and a giant touchscreen is just second nature.
@@thedumbconspirator4956 I like touchscreens too as long as they are right in front of me and aren't moving around, both of which don't apply to touchscreens in cars.
Whenever I am driving I always struggle using a touchscreen to do specific inputs (eg selecting a specific song out of a big list). I have the same issue when I have sent texts while driving.....
Good on Mazda for sticking to their guns on this one.
@@ForgetfulFoot that's why I like my bmw cause it has a touch screen and a swivel wheel so when i'm driving i'll use the wheel and when i'm parked i'll use touch
I always love when Doug reviews car people can actually afford
He often does a good job with them, but sometimes I wish he would actually compare them a little more seriously with the competition. Saying things like it’s fine, about the same, and the like isn’t really that helpful. Especially considering that vastly more people are going to buy one of these compared to the exotic limited production cars that he goes into minute detail comparing the steering feel on. I know those are more exciting, and that’s what he’s interested in, but he kind of shirks his responsibility when it comes to what people buy.
Case in point, he reviewed the competition to this, the Rav-4 and the CR-V and basically said they’re all the same and they’re fine. Okay, but they actually have pretty big differences in cargo room, engines and transmissions, and interior quality. Not to mention handling. So it’s pretty disappointing that he doesn’t even mention them in this review.
@@SMor42 I couldn't agree more with you. His reviews quality really dropped and just feel like a 20 minutes ad instead of an actual review.
I don’t like him reviewing too many boring “normal” cars. People can afford Audis s and rs as well as high performance Germans . I’d like to see more of those.
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@@SMor42 when he reviews normal consumer cars it’s aimed more towards the general public just looking for a new car, not so much enthusiasts who do care more about drivetrain and nice interiors
Mazda's infotainment is the best imo, I've owned the '21 Mazda 3 Turbo Hatch for 2 months now and got used to it in no time I've had a way better time using it than other cars with touch screens
You definitely spend $40k+ from a flipper right 😂 😂
"Even 3/4 of its name, it shares with the CX-5"
This is why I am subscribed to you, Doug.
I just traded my GLC300 for one of these and I have no regrets! I thoroughly enjoy the styling with my black cladding and 20 inch wheels. I’ve found the infotainment system to be a non-issue. I use Apple CarPlay so it’s always a touch screen except if I’m changing settings in the car. While $40k+ seems like a lot for a non-luxury compact crossover, it’s really not that much more than the competition given how expensive literally everything is these days. The handling is much better than my MB and the heavy steering is no joke, I always feel confident driving it. Not to mention, I know it will be reliable for years to come. It’s a great alternative for those looking to buy a premium crossover.
One of my favorite quirky features you can get for the CX-50 is the rooftop tent, in case you ever want to sleep on top of your car!
Mazda's lineup has always felt strange to me. They keep their offerings relatively slim compared to other manufacturers, but then come out with models like this that are barely differentiated from similar models while having huge gaps in their overall offerings
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It is weird they do that…but when you have already done perfection…..where else can you go???
I think they're trying to hit every niche in the crossover market. That would explain having the CX-3, CX-30, CX-5, CX-50, CX-9, and the EV.
And then you have 10 different trim levels to choose from, 7 base engines and 3 turbos.
Next year they're coming out with the CX-70 and CX-90 to fill some of those gaps.
Also, the 30/50/70/90 lineup is eventually *replacing* the 3/5/9.
Doug reviewing normal cars feels right at home for me 😄
Almost every car journalist / reviewers complain about the lack of a touchscreen because they didn't drive the car not long enough to get used to it. After 1-2weeks I have already developed muscle memory and I guarantee, Mazda's system is easier and faster to do stuff.
The first time I ever test drove a 2014 Mazda 6, I more than halfway figured it out before the dealer copied my ID. And the 2014-2015 6’s infotainment was garbage compared to the 2016-present system (the last gen Mazda 3 somehow came with the good infotainment system from the getgo despite being just about as old as the 6)…
It's about options not forced to use it, best balance is having both
I love, LOVE that they are sticking with knobs and not going with a touch screen, this is actually a huge plus and will tilt me towards buying a Mazda over another brand (all else being equal)
My 60yo mother just bought a 2021 CX-5 Signature edition last fall. The non-touch screen is simple to use with its main 2 dials, and 3 accompanying buttons on the console. Not to mention the heavenly button operated climate controls. She loves it.
I was shocked at how good the CX-5 was when I bought mine after years of RAV-4s and CR-Vs. Also the control knob does not bother me at all.
I love controlling everything with my resting wrist rather than REEaching for a screen
I have a CX-30 and rented a rav4 recently and honestly i didn’t really like it. I like the way the mazda drives and feels and looks a lot better tbh
Just bought the CX 5 and i'm totally agree with you
2:53 biggest deal about platform which you don't mention is that CX-5 has multi-link rear suspension, while CX-50 has torsion bean (which is very questionable for this car class)
18:58 if you don't fill up this car's gas, most likely they've filled regular gas instead of premium. Mazda says this engine gives 256hp only with premium has, while it is only 220hp with regular. I'm quite sure most owners fill regular these days with 5$+ gas price in California
This is very true about the gas
a reviewer filled the tank with 87 and tested the engine, then filled with 93 and noticed no difference in 0-60 or driving characteristics and said the derating maybe due to adverse wether (very hot) when it has the lower power rating
@@mylenh turbo is quite dependent for the outside temperature that is true, but also after you've switched gas type, you need to drive for a bit to make sure that there is no "old" gas inside the tank and also that engine computer has properly adjusted to new fuel
That's actually really disappointing about the rear suspension. Torsion beams feel awful in anything, but economy car suspension in a car that can easily be optioned to nearly $50k and is billed as having any kind of off-road focus is egregiously bad.
@@jazzbassrocker well, you would think a torsion beam is actually *better* than IRS for off-roading. And by most accounts, Mazda has really tuned this torsion beam platform well on the 3 and CX-30. These cars can take corners very well in most conditions except in high slip, very cracked pavement on one side of the roadway. I suspect the CX-50 handles very competently despite the torsion beam.
Don't like it? Mazda will offer the CX-70 with multilink rear suspension and RWD longitudinal engine layout!
Considering that a lot of the vehicles Doug has reviewed has had the dial infotainment control, you would think he’d be used to it
I have the non-turbo preferred plus trim and the interior is still pretty upscale, and the acceleration is perfectly adequate. For a normal person like me that doesn’t drive sports cars all the time, I find it quite fun to drive. It also does well on dirt roads that are in bad shape.
Just bought the preferred plus as well, just wish it has headup display 😂
@@wotmasterwot7477 How are the seats on long drives?
I said the same thing when Doug reviewed the CX-30 I love the dial. It is super easy to use and I don't even need to look away from the road. You get used to how far to spin the dial and click the buttons without looking. I don't even daily drive the Mazda 3, and it still is intuitive.
I got one of these a month ago after looking at every other crossover in this price range and I 100% prefer the Mazda system compared to the horrible touchscreens I tried out (Looking at you Subaru). I would also point out that the CX-50 system is a touchscreen. It only works with Carplay which is out main system but honestly the joystick is just more practical.
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I work new sales at a Mazda dealership, and the CX-50 is my absolute favorite out of our lineup. Not counting the Miata of course!
I've had Mazda's for a long time, (Mazdaspeed3, and a newer Mazda 6) and we have a 2016 CX-5 GT. I like the extended length of this cargo floor. The CX-5 cargo floor was too shallow to put anything like a bicycle in without having to remove at least the front wheel, and I even had issues where strollers took up the whole floor of the hatch when the seats weren't down. Makes vacations with kids a bit limiting on space. I think the added length will be great for Costco trips and less height in the cargo area isn't a problem. Mazda's infotainment has always been 'meh', but I don't ever use a touchscreen. I hate fingerprints all over it. The selection knob in the CX-5 works great and becomes more efficient the more you use it. I hate that everytime I start my CX-5, it warns me about using the media system while driving and I have to acknowledge it to even see the screen. (really annoying). All the Mazda's we've had have been super reliable though, so I'll take that over some minor annoyances with a system I don't use that often. One other quirk about the CX-5 is that it's Washer Fluid warnings are very annoying and persistent. If you're low on fluid, it pops up the warning ON TOP of the radar cruise control display and prevents you from seeing anything related to what your speed is set to or what your follow distance is even while you're driving on the highway before you acknowledge that warning......but it pops up every 5 minutes while you're driving! Who is gonna change their wiper fluid while driving 70mph on the highway? In terms of engine response, my CX-5 has sport mode on the 2.5 engine, and throttle response is way better in that mode than it is in the base mode, which really prefers fuel economy. It feels like a very different car on sport mode.
Just had a Mazda MPS beside me yesterday. Still a great looking car from about 2006. Looks much better than most modern 4 doors.
You actually don't have to hit accept on the mazda info screen. I don't think I ever have in my 16 mazda 6. You can just wait a few seconds and it goes away lol
@@ckhound1 depends if you want to do anything with the radio in the meantime
I have a CX-9 with touchscreen, and knob. Always use the knob and always with Apple CarPlay and can do it comfortably in a normal driving position with my arm on the arm-rest. The buttons around the knob work with car play to switch between maps, music, Home Screen etc, and physical knob for volume/track change is right there too!
A+ vote FOR the touchscreen. I have a 2020 CX5. I read all the knocks on the touchscreen before buying, and I have to say I’m now a fan. No more reaching towards the dash. That movement is hazardous because you’re moving your body and eyes away from the road. With the wheel, you may have an extra click but you’re not distracted from the road. It’s like using a computer mouse. You pick it up quickly.
Audi used an almost identical scroll / click wheel thing for years. I had one for years. It doesn't take long to get used to, and really is much easier to use while driving than a touchscreen.
Mazdas are pretty fun to drive, I completely agree Doug. I have a 2012 Mazda speed 3 and the turbo in that car, makes it feel much faster than it really is.
I have a 2011 Mazda3 with the 2.5 liter naturally aspirated engine. I get so envious whenever I see a speed3 haha. at least it's a manual, so it's still fun even though i'm only working with 167 horsepower.
Have had my CX-5 for nearly 8 years and it still feels new, virtually no problems and super cheap to maintain, still a very fun drive too, its a peppy little thing. Have to agree with everyone else too who has interacted with Mazdas infotainment, I prefer the rotary knob. It becomes intuitive and I always miss it when I go to our Touchscreen Accord.
I love my CX-5 , 2018, zero problems
2016.5 CX-5, no problem except thin paint in some parts of the car.
Coming from someone who’s owned two Mazda3s with the commander knobs, they are 100% superior once you spend time and get used to one!
No more fingerprints, scratches, fumbling for hard to press buttons, etc.
I absolutely love Mazdas system. Audi and BMW have also used very similar concepts in their vehicles and I’ve liked their implementation too.
I find the interface with the wheel to be far superior to any touchscreen I've worked with. It's aesthetically pleasing, keeps the screen in plain view during driving, and makes it much easier to run through menus when driving.
My buddy chose this over a Genesis GV70. Saved himself almost $20k, and had a far better experience with the dealership
The turbo engine only gets 256hp when running on 93 octane, which I don't believe CA has. Otherwise it's 227hp, which is probably what you had during the drive.
California doesn't have 93 octane!?
@@Cincy32 no, they only offer 91
@MattLT4 it won't make 256hp on 91 octane but it won't just make 227 either. The power output actually scales somewhat linearly with octane number. On 89, it'll make somewhere in the high 230hp range, for instance.
Great Review Doug! The Mazda Cx-50 Positions itself as the more "Do it all" younger brother of the CX-5. Based on the small product architecture of the Mazda3 and Cx-30 it provides a familiar and engaging driving experience compared to the disconnected feel of most of its competitors. The Cx-50 carries the stylish exterior and interior of the CX-5 and takes it up a notch. The biggest notable differences being: Improved passenger and cargo space, Sharper cameras, wireless carplay and android auto, partial touch screen capability, and trail worthiness!
Still trash
I have a 2020 Mazda 3 hatchback with a lot of features this cx-50 has and I absolutely love it. The infotainment system is incredible and I’ve been so happy with it. I never get finger prints on my screen and it stays clean. I can usually do everything I need in 2-3 quick taps and dial turns. Or you can use voice commands with the integrated apple car play. I feel like it definitely comes down to personal preference though.
I enjoy the use of the knob. Your arm never has to leave its resting position. Even the volume knob right there is perfect. Hate having to reach for a little volume knob and try to adjust it precisely.
I just bought this in the highest package (all they had available) and I absolutely love it. It feels far more expensive that it was (about $42k). The infotainment system is something I actually prefer. I had touch screen before on my Honda HRV and it drove me bananas. It was always dirty with fingerprints and I couldn’t use it while driving. And it was slow. This system is beautifully designed (though some settings are in unexpected places). I also agree with many other commenters that I like the screen where it is - it’s much easier to see while I’m driving than it would be if it was lower and I love it. I don’t need to touch it. One thing to note - it won’t fit large (bigger than 20oz) cups otherwise it will cover the climate controls. My only annoyance so far.
I know it makes no sense but this car would look so good lowered. Would be like a wide hot hatch
Basically what I was thinking, they’ve made a Wagon, and then raised it :/
@@AvojEtc Yeah I feel like they're getting closer to Subaru Outback dimensions with this car. I think there is a Ford Fusion in the works with similar wagon-SUV styling as well.
no it doesnt look like a hatch
If I ever purchase a CX-50 I’d definitely look into dropping the suspension a little. I’d photo shop it first to see what it’ll look like.
I do think Mazda is right with their disliking of the touchscreen. It’s just bad from a driver safeness perspective.
I love my Mazda dial. Your hand is naturally in the place of the dial anyways so it seems more natural when you’re switching through the infotainment.
Touchscreens are also bad from a usability perspective. When I'm bumping down the road I can miss the "button" on the screen I want and either get nothing, or it does something I didn't want. Which means more time fumbling around with the screen.
Luckily in my Challenger everything important can be done from the steering wheel or physical buttons in the center stack. I only use the touch screen for android auto or to choose between my different performance options/burnout modes.
Thank you for this review. Please, please make more reviews of "normal" cars! I mean current models, not only for enthusiasts but also for people considering their next car.
I cannot emphasize enough how stunning this car is ❤ Wish we had it in S.A 🇿🇦
Everyone complains about the "non-touchscreen", however if you live with it daily you get way more used to it! I love the knob setup! I actually went back home where my parents have a 21 Toyota Venza w/ touchscreen and I found it quite weird using it and actually didn't like touching the screen because of how long my eyes were off the road! Mazda is right in the fact that your eyes stay more on the road with the knob setup!
Same here! Currently in a rental Malibu while my MX-5 is in the shop and I hate the touchscreen! The position and angle of the Malibu’s screen makes no sense and I miss my Miata’s command knob every time I have to drive this darn boat.
Yes, when I get into a modern Toyota from my Mazda it is terrible. If I'm in android auto and I hit the nav button it takes me to the factory maps instead of my Google maps which are currently navigating. When I plug in my phone I have to press three times on the touchscreen to get to my Google maps. With the Mazda, I just start driving and my maps will come up. It also starts playing my previous music without pressing anything. With the Toyota the navigation volume is hidden in the settings and I wouldn't dare try to navigate the settings while driving down the road. With the Mazda you hit the test sound button in google maps and scroll the volume knob while it plays, so easy. I just end up muting navigation in the Toyota and missing my turn.
@Diogo having the option of both would be ideal. There are plenty of times I wish I could use the touchscreen in the MX-5 to do just a quick task. Which is annoying because it has a touchscreen that can be used, the car just needs to be stopped. But more often then not I prefer the knob to control everything. Even more ideal would be a knob with haptic feedback, when scrolling to an end point if the knob vibrated or became harder to twist with some force feedback that would be especially nice.
@@Whiskeyj456 Wow, I feel for you man, being sentenced to drive a Malibu instead of your MX-5. Talk about cruel and unusual.... 😂
@@lordflyquad4721 For real! 🤣 pressing on the throttle takes multiple seconds of waiting before the car reacts. Steering is numb and floaty, and the interior is just nothing but garbage plastic, who actively buys these??
I have a Mazda 6 and never use the touch screen once you learn the buttons is much better and they are nice quality
Not to mention the fact it’s been scientifically proven touch screen is less safer than using a dial like Mazda.
I find the knob way easier than touchscreen, lets say you are driving on a bumpy road and trying to use the touchscreen you end up touching every other setting other than the one you want to touch whereas the knob you just select it and click it, simple, fast, convenience and easy to remember
i have been binge watching these for ages.i thought i was a car guy but you have shown me so many cars i had never heard of.you can tell you would happily do this even if youtube didn't exist or you made no money out of it and it is refreshing to see
I've driven a 2021 Mazda3 Hatchback for almost 3 years now and I've totally had my mind changed on touch screen interfaces in cars. Sure they're nice if they're available, but honestly having the tactile interface with the notched center dial and buttons and stuff makes it so that I can navigate the menus pretty effortlessly without taking my focus off the road. They're done very tastefully, you don't have to move your arm from its resting position, and not having fingerprints all over your screen is also nice.
I've had my CX-30 Turbo (which was at the top of the comparison list) for about a year and a half. I LOVE it. Same power train as it's new big brother, but enough weight difference that mine is very fun to drive. Mazda interior may not be quite on par with a true luxury brand, but it definitely feels nicer than most. I'm keeping mine.
so the mazda 3 turbo would be faster and more fun?
@@tinhinnh For pure speed and handling, I'd say that's correct. However, I live in the mountains. Fun twisty paved roads AND fun rough roads. It is NOT a proper off-roader. But, surprising what it can do.
I appreciate Mazda for not filling their interiors with screens. Looks nicer and is not lazy.
Doug, the type of guy who is the gold standard of rear seat headroom.
For 2024, Mazda softened the ride and steering. Just took a second test drive...it was amazing. Power delivery is a little boggy when in Normal Mode. Switch it to Sport and it comes to life. Running 91/93 is paramount to uncork even more fun. It's a crazyFun sports wagon "CUV" esp. with the PremiumPlusTurboAWD and terracotta interior. Got one on order.
I love the dial after using it for a while! It’s intuitive and you don’t have to take your focus off the road. Just like not having capacitive volume or temp controls.
I busted out laughing when Doug said "rolling on dubs". That made my day.
A big reason why the 256 feels like 216 is that it is probably on regular fuel, providing only ~225 hp. when you put premium it bumps up to the full 256 @doug demuro
It is THE SAME ISSUE as in other versions of this Mazda SkyActiv T-2.5L. You put 93 US octane premium fuel (and its' wildly fluctuating price premium) and the output jumps to 250-256hp / 184-188 kW depending on model. You can put good ol' 87 US octane regular fuel and the output is tamed to 227hp / 167 kW no matter the model.
But those 310 lb-ft / 420 n-M of torque are ALWAYS available on ANY compatible fuel, so that's something to figure depending on the use this crossover would mostly be on...
(AFAIK, no other engine has this much difference between fuels this side of the Dodge Challenger Demon with 808hp / 594 kW on 93 US octane pump gas vs. 840hp / 618 kW on 100 US octane racing fuel with the proper setting dialed in)
@@syxepop they are the same engine, 2.5T. mazda is transparent abt this
I was very excited for the CX-50, but I have to say I’m not sold on it. Too many hard plastics inside and out. The CX-5 looks more premium and has a nicer interior.
Isn’t it because it’s targeted for a more active lifestyle. Muddy boots, bicycles, tents, spelunking type of people?
@@albertduncan6365 What Albert said. The CX-5 targets the RAV4 market, this targets the Forester and Outback market.
I hatw that every CUV has ugly plastic on the bottom
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Technically you are correct. I made a list of what's better from what I can think of:
Quality rear doors, rear center armrest storage, 40-20-40 seats, felt-lined glovebox, black headliner, real wood
I have had a mazda 6, cx5 and now the cx50. The knob is super easy to work with it and I like it.
FWIW, I've owned a CX-30 (same infotainment as the CX-50) for a few months now and it only took a week or 2 for me to get used to it. To echo what others have said, it has the following advantages over touchscreens:
- can be placed closer to your line of vision since it doesn't need to be within arm's reach
- no fingerprints on your screen
- bumpy roads don't make you accidentally tap the wrong buttons
- you can memorize the menu navigation and don't have to look at the screen for some things
- you can just press the mic button on the steering wheel to invoke Google Assistant/Siri and talk instead of typing
Yes - people expect, and are used to, touchscreen infotainment systems. But I think most who live with Mazda's infotainment for a couple weeks come around to their stance on the matter.
The 20" wheels are absurd. It looks great on the 17" wheels. If I bought the turbo I would consider selling the 20"s and downsizing to the lower-model's 17"s. I think the smaller wheels look better, they probably ride more comfortably, definitely would be better for anything "off-roady", have better protection against road hazards, and have many more tire options and better tire prices.
Check out the meridian edition! It’s got smaller wheels but you can get it with the turbo!
I love the 20s on the new CX 50! Yes, it makes for a firmer ride but I still think they look awesome!
The front of the CX-5 is the best looking of any crossover hands down. It's the most aggressive and defined. Then when you get in Red, hands down best looking crossover from the front. The rear is fairly bland though. The worst part about the cx-5 is the seats though. The lumbar is lacking and it doesn't recline in the same manner US cars do so if feels fairly rather upright with no support.
Actually there are some reviews out there with the non-turbo engine. The consensus is that the naturally aspirated engine does fine. If all your needs is a daily driver. But if you're looking at doing a lot of towing, the turbo engine is the obvious choice.
I just got my new CX50 a couple of days ago-to early to make a real review. HOWEVER, I just want to share a few things. It is a significantly higher quality car than my 2014 Mazda 3. The doors close better, the touch screen works, the Bluetooth actually connects with my iphone, etc. There is a button to open/close the rear hatch. The active cruise control works so good for me. I just drove home yesterday in bad traffic. It was like magic. It came to a crawl, went up to 50 and to a stop-every time. So much less stressful. It does get poor overall gas milage. However, my Mazda 3 never got close the advertised highway mileage. The CX-50 is advertised to get 30 on the highway. I got 31 mpg at 65mph. City driving does get poor gas mileage-as advertised. The seats are great for small people. The screen knob is great for people with small arms.
One of the biggest reasons a 2022 Mazda3 Turbo is my dream car is actually because it has no touchscreen. I have worked in the tech field for a few years and the downside to tech in cars is how it ages poorly, touchscreens especially. It dates the car while also distracting you from the road. Because of how simple the display is, Mazda managed to create something that you can't really tell how old it is.
I installed a touchscreen on my mazda3 using an aftermarket stereo, and immediately returned it. Having to touch a screen to navigate while driving sucked, I much rather have physical controls and buttons that I don't have to look at, especially since the screen in these cars is in the FOV.
My wife says she wants something wider and longer. Thank you Mazda for coming through.
CX-70 and CX-90 on the way as well.
You may want to clarify with your wife that she's talking about a car 🤣🤣
I don't think she means what you think she means
that's what she said
Mazda is one of the best mainstream brands on the market imo. They make some really great vehicles.
Looks 100 x times better than the oddly proportioned CX-5. I like the traditional, safe, reliable and functional knobs and buttons a lot more than the average EV interior.
I have a mazda3. I was not fond of the knob at first but oh my was I wrong? I love that my muscle memory works for me better when I'm driving. And honestly I rarely touch the screen even when I'm parked or stopped. Mazda for the win
I've always found your reviews quirky and informative. Much love from South Africa 🔥🙌🏿🇿🇦
I just bought one of these. If you run premium gas in the turbo engine, then it’s much peppier and you get the full 25x horsepower. Doug’s model might have had low octane gas in it which is why it felt like low 200’s hp, which is precisely what it was achieving. The lack of touchscreen was my biggest concern, but I got used to the joystick very quickly and frankly I prefer the joystick over touchscreen now. I drove a friend’s RAV4 recently and was very distracted and annoyed with having to use a touchscreen. Note that the touchscreen feature on the CX-50 for CarPlay and Android Auto is only functional when the car is stopped; it is not a touchscreen while in motion. Overall I would rate the CX-50 4.5 out of 5 stars, mostly for a few minor build quality issues being in the first year of production.
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Yeah, the Skyactiv-G is a high compression ratio engine in its NA version. In a turbo charged setup, you definitely want a high octane gas, otherwise the computer will cut some power to avoid engine knock. It was the same with the turbo version of the Mazda 3, high octane recommended for full power.
FYI. Someone on reddit put premium in the non turbo and after 5 runs found a 10% inprovement. 😀
love how one day Doug is in a hyper car then the next... a Mazda
Kudos to Mazda for making a car like this. But… for the lifestyle Doug is referencing, Mazda is going to have a tough time competing with Subaru imo. I am the type to hike, mountain bike, climb, ski, backpack, you name it. The way Outback and Forester have implemented so many features such as the built in cross bars on the Outback and now the Wilderness editions is going to be tough competition. Subie people are loyal to their brand and will usually convince their friends/family who have similar hobbies to get a Subaru. Source: I am a Subaru
For those of us that aren’t lesbains or soccer mom’s we’d prefer the mazda
My sister has a CX-5, and it's really a comfortable little car. She and both are fans of cloth seats, cause we have both experienced vinyl seats and leather. Getting into a car with both vinyl and leather seats is the same torture when you sit on them when the interior is hot (like when you come back to the car after you have been in the grocery store for half an hour on a hot day).
I got the CX-50 because the CX 5 had worse seats and teh cabin space was tiny. I found the frame of the car in my blindspot on the driver side compared to teh cx-50 and I love the extra space for my legs which makes it feel better. I had a soul previously and the non turbo CX-50 felt so much more sporty and still fun. It is no slouch at all compared to the sluggish Suburu Forester I tested which the CVT took all life out of it
Doug: It's a yellow T-shirt kinda day today
Are the cx-50 front seats larger than the cx-5 front seats? Has been my only complaint about the cx-5. The seat bottoms are a little small and can become uncomfortable on long drives.
I would like to know as well. I found that I was sitting on each of the bottom cushion bolsters.
@@charlessigmonjr.6552 Yes the seats are bigger and more comfy than the 5. I test drove both and picked the 50 for that reason. Also there is more space between you and the dash compared to the 5
100% agree with Doug regarding the touchscreen. I test drove a CX-5 earlier this year and cannot overstate how bad the system is. it is objectively LESS safe than a touchscreen simply due to the fact that your eyes are off the road for so much longer when you use a control-knob vs. just taking a microsecond to touch something.
That makes no sense I never take my eyes off the road using the system
Hi Doug, I worked at Mazda for a few years. I believe the 2.5T engine only makes 256 hp when you use premium fuel. With regular fuel it’s only 227.
Just wanted to say, I have a touch screen in my vehicle and my wife has a mazda cx 9. I one thousand percent prefer the knob to control as I just find it easier to use even though I use her vehicle less than mine.
i appreciate Mazda not going all touch screen. beautiful interior im sure very fun to drive but hell, simplicity is the greatest luxury in the price range lol
Squared-off lines, black plastics... It's basically a Subaru with a different name. Wouldn't say it stands out more and is less generic, then. All SUVs look exactly like this nowadays.
At least Mazda puts real torque converter automatic transmissions and not those shitty CVTs all other Japanese makers are in love with, for some reason.
It's basically a Subaru without the POS CVT, which Subaru needs to get rid of yesterday and step up to the plate by offering a TRUE 8 or 9 Speed Automatic transmission with at least two or three dedicated lower gears for optimal lower torque output and better handling traction for off-road driving. And it's LONG OVERDUE!!!!!
@@P00katube Exactly! It doesn't stand out as much as Doug says because it has all the classic characteristics every modern SUV offers. Nothing special.
As for the CVTs, Honda offers its excellent 10-Speed automatic in the Odyssey minivan, so it's hypocritical putting a real automatic transmission in a car not suited for sporty driving and, at the same time, offering the small, light and agile Civics and Integras with a CVT. Mazda gains a few points on this matter, although 6 gears are just too few these days for an automatic.
@@P00katube I have a new Subaru. It fakes gearshifts. If they're going to go to all that trouble and negate the advantages of a CVT, why not just put a real geared automatic in?
Doug is the type of guy that would drive a CX-50 to SEE his EX after 50 years to make the meeting quirky.
I saw what you did there! LOL!
@@brianlee9233 Hahaha great spot!
I’ve owned a Mazda for 5 years and I completely agree with you on the knob, for the most part. It takes more concentration to click around and find stuff than just poking the screen
I appreciate Doug telling it straight. The engine is small and it feels small.