BMA calls for physician associates to be 'banned' from diagnosing patients after blood clot death

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  • @Med-lv9fq
    @Med-lv9fq 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +171

    How can a 2year fast tracked clinical training compare with over 10 years of doctors training

    • @j.p77
      @j.p77 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Migrant doctors only need diploma can get them off Amazon.

    • @psps2034
      @psps2034 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@LevelUP84 Consultants also misdiagnose. But at least theyre all doctors.

    • @MrDeadhead1952
      @MrDeadhead1952 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@LevelUP84 I beg to to differ the NHS Physicians associate webpage says this "Physician associate training usually lasts two years" explain why that is wrong.

    • @psps2034
      @psps2034 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      @@LevelUP84 It IS two years. Its a two years masters degree on top of an undergraduate degree which doesnt need to be biological science related!! Those two years along with the undergrad cannot compare to a medical degree even if some topics overlap, nor does the role of actually being a doctor to a PA.

    • @Steffi-rl6fs
      @Steffi-rl6fs 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      the lack of insight at 1:50 is terrifying

  • @indikafernando6267
    @indikafernando6267 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +105

    No one dares to talk about the elephant in the room.............

    • @Raceproved
      @Raceproved 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Its true, but I winder how many are staring to w o n d e r ?

    • @jasonuren3479
      @jasonuren3479 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I wonder how many are trying but being censored...

    • @alexdavis1541
      @alexdavis1541 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@Raceproved They know

    • @NoWindNoSunNoPower
      @NoWindNoSunNoPower 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I’ll happily talk about your splendid tin foil hat.

    • @mnomadvfx
      @mnomadvfx 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@NoWindNoSunNoPower
      Loooooool don't do that!
      I spat my drink out all over my TV luaghing 😆

  • @charlesmaguire3492
    @charlesmaguire3492 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    They are blaming the doctors and nurses now for missing this!! The GASLIGHTING continues

    • @ThePushUKLifestyle
      @ThePushUKLifestyle 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Of course this patient had a named doctor who was also the PA's supervisor so it's strange the focus is on scapegoating the PA and not the Doctor, PA AND GP practice especially if they're having PAs work without a named doctor to discuss their cases with as that is how they role is meant to work. All 3 guilty.

    • @taffyterrier
      @taffyterrier 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It is the doctors fault.

    • @kaspian6044
      @kaspian6044 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@ThePushUKLifestylebecause a DVT is a barn door diagnosis, these so called PAs should be able to recognise this, and alert a senior doctor. Obviously this PA was ignorant and arrogant enough to think this was nothing serious.

    • @ThePushUKLifestyle
      @ThePushUKLifestyle 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@kaspian6044 I know right, I was so shocked that the senior doctor in this case did not do their job as both the doctor and PA should have made sure that they were discussing every patient case but most especially the supervising doctor doesn't seem to be checking on the clinic cases as doctors because they are doctors are the named responsible clinician for every patient. I was so shocked that doctors who aren't even PAs also missed PE diagnosis on two other cases I came about. Even medical and PA students would have picked it up. It just shows that even experienced doctors do make mistakes but no one then calls the doctor profession to a halt.

  • @Susanmuir2
    @Susanmuir2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    This was a disaster waiting to happen.

  • @discordantduck1808
    @discordantduck1808 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    sure do seem to be an awful lot of clots related mortalities lately

    • @ajharmiah2692
      @ajharmiah2692 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, ive watched a video saying how people with serious cases of covid 19 has seen an increase of blood clots.

  • @Med-lv9fq
    @Med-lv9fq 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    The problem is that in the NHS in the UK they are trying to get rid of doctors title, they already abolished white coats, doctors are introduced by first names therefore patients don’t know who they see everyone is introduced by first name

    • @ryuixyui
      @ryuixyui 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      AI will become your new doctors and they will be better. They already have been tested and all patients preferred them due to their comforting and encouraging language.
      The AIs also explained their diagnosis so much better that patients felt that these "doctors" actually cared for them and answered their questions.

    • @brianlopez8855
      @brianlopez8855 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I've seen it in other areas of work too; the downgrading of professionalism and expertise.

    • @adamchapman7729
      @adamchapman7729 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They abolished the idea of white coats for infection control reasons. They get filthy easily and contribute to spreading hospital-acquired infections. That's nothing to do with doctors as a role.

  • @jackspring7709
    @jackspring7709 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    There's a lot of that been happening over the last year. I wonder what's causing it. I hope Sky and the rest of the media will take a close look at this sudden phenomenon.

    • @NoWindNoSunNoPower
      @NoWindNoSunNoPower 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Splendid tin foil hat.

    • @bobjames6622
      @bobjames6622 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@NoWindNoSunNoPower BOT

    • @jackspring7709
      @jackspring7709 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@NoWindNoSunNoPower Yep: I didn't think your empty head would be able to muster anything up after that.

    • @NoWindNoSunNoPower
      @NoWindNoSunNoPower 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @bobjames6622 Keep away from my bot.

    • @petiadavis5122
      @petiadavis5122 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Safe and effective comes to mind

  • @vivienhall1468
    @vivienhall1468 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    I went to see my qualified GP with back pain. He said it was probably muscular. So I went home and googled the anatomy of the spine and went back to him. I told him I thought it was a problem with the sacro iliac joint at the bottom of my spine. He said it could be and sent me to a physio who confirmed that that was the problem. So if GPs can't diagnose things properly what hope do PAs have?

    • @shanafehr
      @shanafehr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      It's a scary life we're living when Google can save our lives and a professional in medicine is too lazy to give a fvck

    • @martinjohncassidyCASSIDY
      @martinjohncassidyCASSIDY 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Most Docs are pill pushers and only work part time.

    • @kaspian6044
      @kaspian6044 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The physios deal with muscular pain so the doctor was right,.hope this helps

  • @TheFULLMETALCHEF
    @TheFULLMETALCHEF 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    A PA should have been able to diagnose this readily. A good military medic should be able to as well. Classic symptoms. I had a PE and recognized it immediately so they knew what to do when I got to the ER… CT with contrast and then rapid heparin infusions. Missing it twice is totally inexcusable.

    • @justadude8369
      @justadude8369 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Im not a doctor and even I know that a swollen leg with chest pain could be a clot in the leg thats gone to the lungs

    • @justadude8369
      @justadude8369 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @AellaMaud Sounds like this PA wasnt even aware of typical symptoms then

    • @f.t3322
      @f.t3322 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What were your symptoms? ​@AellaMaud

    • @TheSwargam
      @TheSwargam 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@justadude8369 : it’s a lame profession. Government and universities are fooling students. There is no employment for this profession now.

  • @agk9700
    @agk9700 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    CLOTSHOT

    • @NoWindNoSunNoPower
      @NoWindNoSunNoPower 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Splendid tin foil hat.

    • @agk9700
      @agk9700 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NoWindNoSunNoPower Whos wearing the Tin foil hat now? Astra zenica has been pulled due to clots and Pfizer is paying up in compensations

  • @victormunagapati4643
    @victormunagapati4643 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    It is one death that came to light due to associates inefficiency. But there may be many which did not come to public attension RIP...

  • @LowleyUK
    @LowleyUK 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    Weird that nobody is talking about the cause of her clot or how many have died from the clotshots.

    • @Napoleonwilson1973
      @Napoleonwilson1973 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah awful lot of young people getting clots since 2020 🤫

    • @jackspring7709
      @jackspring7709 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      True: a lot of the media organisations that were drooling and chomping at the bit for a certain procedure to be mandated suddenly seem oddly mute and bewildered all of a sudden.

    • @NoWindNoSunNoPower
      @NoWindNoSunNoPower 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Splendid tin foil hat.

    • @Getonwithit204
      @Getonwithit204 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@jackspring7709Try looking up the word MIGHT.

    • @bobjames6622
      @bobjames6622 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@NoWindNoSunNoPower BOT

  • @heywhotsgoinon8286
    @heywhotsgoinon8286 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    Safe....and effective.

    • @shauneden4229
      @shauneden4229 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Sudden and Unexpected.

    • @CJones-99
      @CJones-99 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@shauneden4229doctors are baffled

  • @franktrcek8917
    @franktrcek8917 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    I had the same misdiagnosis by a GP. Who said that my DVT was a pulled muscle.
    3 weeks later I’m in hospital, with the largest PE (pulmonary embolism) the Dr there had ever seen.
    And went onto say, that he couldn’t comprehend how I survived, but I did.

    • @viuvenitlalumina
      @viuvenitlalumina 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      personal injury compensations?

    • @zog97xy
      @zog97xy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Same here and they said the same thing.

    • @denisescally7090
      @denisescally7090 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      A friend’s young sister had a DVT missed by her Dr and at A&E. She died. This was before 2020.

    • @Withwesternwinds
      @Withwesternwinds 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The exact same thing happened to me, and I was never sent for a blood test to actually check if there was one. So I suffered a blood clot in my lung, cardiac arrest, and a subsequent brain injury! It's all utter insanity.

    • @Withwesternwinds
      @Withwesternwinds 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@denisescally7090it's a frighteningly common occurrence

  • @aucontraire1986
    @aucontraire1986 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Losing trust in the medical field.

  • @bumache
    @bumache 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    This has been happening for years. My partner nearly died when her GP diagnosed her with gastroenteritis due to the severe pain in her lower back, when she actually had a large blood clot in her thigh! My GP diagnosed asthma due to shortness of breath when I actually had blood clots on my lungs. I also very nearly died as a result of this diagnosis.

    • @simofernandes7465
      @simofernandes7465 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Sad. Thats because they have no time to take good History and clinical examination. They just treat tge symptoms without proper Diagnosis, which is all medicine is about. NO Diagnosis, NO treatment.

  • @kimmykimzee
    @kimmykimzee 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Doctors miss blood clots too. The diagnosis is often missed because they don't do risk assessments.

    • @Propofol1234
      @Propofol1234 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So because planes sometimes crash, we should let air hostesses fly?

    • @taffyterrier
      @taffyterrier 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Propofol1234 Doctors are negligent.

    • @xxsaruman82xx87
      @xxsaruman82xx87 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@taffyterrier All of them?

  • @cachinnation448
    @cachinnation448 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    It's a complete mystery

    • @CJones-99
      @CJones-99 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Doctors are baffled

  • @nirmalpetsonparakkal8172
    @nirmalpetsonparakkal8172 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Even doctors with 5-6 years of rigorous undergrad training and then followed by close to 10 years of further training in FY, CT, ST years miss things and misdiagnose. So what hope do people like PAs with a fraction of the training have?

  • @pittuk6500
    @pittuk6500 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Sudden clot?

  • @stitchlover633
    @stitchlover633 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    it does seem a distraction from the cause of the blood clot

  • @adamjones7276
    @adamjones7276 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Blunder upon Blunder. That sums up todays NHS & Politicians of today

  • @riku1neo
    @riku1neo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My close friend had a DVT… blood clot in his leg… all the classic symptoms and saw a MD and another MD for a second opinion… they both missed it… only found the clot when he turned up in the ER… so I wouldn’t blame a PA’s training

  • @snsn7251
    @snsn7251 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Cant replace 10 years training minimum. Madness. Drs are trained for a reason. Cant take short cuts with people's lives. N the worse part is they are paid more than most Jr Drs when some nurses are more highly skilled than them.

    • @taffyterrier
      @taffyterrier 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Junior doctors are overpaid.

    • @ThePushUKLifestyle
      @ThePushUKLifestyle 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@snsn7251 some nurses are also paid more than junior doctors because of their experience. It’s not as if junior doctors don’t get paid as they progress such as the nursing staff who gets paid as they progress and so on

    • @ItsAllApsyop
      @ItsAllApsyop หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Say's he who seemingly takes short cuts with their grammar.

    • @xxsaruman82xx87
      @xxsaruman82xx87 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@taffyterrier No, we're not

  • @janetbradbury5021
    @janetbradbury5021 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    They can charge the same amount for a PA visit as a Dr visit

  • @janetbradbury5021
    @janetbradbury5021 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Tragic!

  • @feolender2938
    @feolender2938 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Safe and effective

  • @nigel439
    @nigel439 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    This is the new normal.

  • @abdulhamid9605
    @abdulhamid9605 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    A case like Emily's is a barndoor presentation. Even medical students would be able to pick it up. The fact that this PA wrongly diagnosed, wrongly treated, and delayed escalation to A&E is unacceptable. Those involved need heavy investigation and scrutinisation.
    Unfortunately, I fear that incidents like this will continue to occur if the quality of healthcare continues to be degraded with more austerity, and more "band-aid" solutions to the workforce crisis.
    PAs aren't a replacement for doctors. This case is an example.
    We need doctors to fill doctor roles.
    I truly fear for the day a loved one must seek healthcare for an urgent issue, and risk their life in the same way.

    • @taffyterrier
      @taffyterrier 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Doctors are negligent.

  • @JohnML
    @JohnML 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Another “died suddenly” who probably boasted about being double jabbed and boosted.

  • @monkeyboy8424
    @monkeyboy8424 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The General Medical Council has effectively given up on any professional and ethical oversight. A public inquiry is urgently needed.

  • @markestkowski3616
    @markestkowski3616 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Patients need to insist on seeing a doctor not an associate.

  • @zibasworld5260
    @zibasworld5260 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    How many people have died because of incompetent doctors? mistake of one cannot put all in the same boat. Medical students have first 2-3 non-clinical and then last 2 years clinical. PAs have BSc that covers anatomy/physiology etc and then 2 years clinical experience MSc. It is unfair to mention 2 years of training, university of reading provides 4 years training for those without BSc.

    • @ta4770
      @ta4770 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And pilots sometimes crash planes. Does that mean the cabin crew should fly instead?

    • @Propofol1234
      @Propofol1234 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So because the smartest people in the country make mistakes, that means we should let btec med school rejects should be able to take the reigns?

    • @taffyterrier
      @taffyterrier 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Propofol1234 Anyone of average intelligence can get a place at British medical school since the entry requirements were watered down.

  • @johnlemmo681
    @johnlemmo681 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm a PA and diagnosed life threatening Fournier's gangrene in a patient that was seen for a possible leg blood clot 8 hours previously. That doctor was sued for malpractice, not banned from diagnosing.

    • @ThePushUKLifestyle
      @ThePushUKLifestyle 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johnlemmo681 well done. It’s good to see that everyone including doctors misdiagnose and it’s good to see that Physician Associates are capable as well

  • @OmarAbdulMalikDHEdMPASPACPAPro
    @OmarAbdulMalikDHEdMPASPACPAPro หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    🤨1:32 totally false!

  • @KingDomsKingdom85
    @KingDomsKingdom85 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Ive also been misdiagnosed before, as has my mother and father. The doctors and consultants arent up to scratch, as a whole.

    • @justadude8369
      @justadude8369 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thats kind of missing the point though. If a consultant can make mistakes after a decade of experience then how many more mistakes are gonna be made by someone with only two years of less rigorous training? Its frightening.

    • @KingDomsKingdom85
      @KingDomsKingdom85 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@justadude8369 I'm 100% on board with your way of thinking here. It's terrifying.

  • @tonychorley4936
    @tonychorley4936 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not the only death due to a patient being seen by a PA rather than a doctor. There are fully qualified GP’s unable to find a job, so why are health authorities trying to force PAs onto practices. My practice wishes to hire another GP, health authority says no, hire a PA, thankfully they are refusing.

    • @taffyterrier
      @taffyterrier 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Doctors also misdiagnose with monotonous regularity.

    • @ThePushUKLifestyle
      @ThePushUKLifestyle 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tonychorley4936 well, like it or not, it’s the supervising doctor’s responsibility to discuss every patient case with their PA who is seeing their patients on their list. That’s how the profession works and it’s a legal responsibility

  • @Taylor23890
    @Taylor23890 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I complained I was so breathless with my second pregnancy. I was told at first it’s the pressure of the pregnancy on my body, I started coughing up blood was given meds for a possible infection. 5 days later no better sent straight to the hospital. I had a blood on my lung . This was in 1998

  • @RomeoMike22
    @RomeoMike22 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    What is the point of physicians associates?

    • @ThePushUKLifestyle
      @ThePushUKLifestyle 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RomeoMike22 what is the point of having an MDT?

    • @RomeoMike22
      @RomeoMike22 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ThePushUKLifestyle I don't know what that is

  • @peacelilly75
    @peacelilly75 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How the hell were they given that kind of authority in the first place!!!

    • @taffyterrier
      @taffyterrier 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because doctors keep getting it wrong.

  • @trojon
    @trojon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What is a PA?

    • @taffyterrier
      @taffyterrier 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What is a doctor?

  • @angelicMisha
    @angelicMisha 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sorry but the PA at the end saying "if we're not sure what to do we'll escalate the care" - what about situations where a PA is sure they know what's wrong so they don't bother to get a second opinion? It's situations like THAT that are concerning to me.

    • @ThePushUKLifestyle
      @ThePushUKLifestyle 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@angelicMisha but every patient a PA sees is on a doctor’s list because the doctor is fully responsible for the patient’s management. Each case should be discussed with the supervising doctor and it’s both the supervising doctor and PA to ensure this takes place as ultimately, the doctor is still responsible for making sure that this happens as a supervisor.

  • @lukeallan6486
    @lukeallan6486 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Doctors misdiagnose aswell though.

    • @ta4770
      @ta4770 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And pilots sometimes crash planes. Does that mean the cabin crew should fly instead?

    • @taffyterrier
      @taffyterrier 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ta4770 = dumbed down doctor

  • @diordior7415
    @diordior7415 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    By the time a physician associate is sure what to do - it’ll be too late🤷🏾‍♂️It supposed to be handled by a “Actual Doctor” - and none the less👍🏿👍🏿🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @taffyterrier
      @taffyterrier 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same difference.

    • @diordior7415
      @diordior7415 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@taffyterrier No it's not 🙏🏿 That's the idea👍🏿 They assist the physician for a reason☀️

  • @mkhatame86
    @mkhatame86 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Iv been training as a Doctor for 6 years, followed by 3 years of supervised training, followed by official 3 years of MD speciality training before was able to feel a little bit confident on managing patients alone.

  • @joelevans638
    @joelevans638 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    RIP Emily
    I hope there is some justice for this for her family and ultimately for all of us as patients.
    The government needs to stop rolling this programme out immediately.

    • @skyskyf
      @skyskyf 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Couldn’t agree more

  • @thomasshepard6030
    @thomasshepard6030 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Her family must sue the individual responsible for this beautiful young woman death

  • @Nas-eb2kb
    @Nas-eb2kb 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Covid vaccine?

    • @NoWindNoSunNoPower
      @NoWindNoSunNoPower 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Splendid tin foil hat.

    • @bobjames6622
      @bobjames6622 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@NoWindNoSunNoPower BOT

    • @NoWindNoSunNoPower
      @NoWindNoSunNoPower 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @bobjames6622 Keep away from my bot.

    • @Robert-xy4xi
      @Robert-xy4xi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@NoWindNoSunNoPower Is a fair question, did this lovely unfortunate lady have a Covid Vaccine!

    • @alunjones3860
      @alunjones3860 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Robert-xy4xi It's recognised as a rare adverse event, but is it not more common?

  • @Dicky104
    @Dicky104 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Don't think our Dr would have spotted it either.

  • @jasonuren3479
    @jasonuren3479 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    And this is where health services are heading, folks!

  • @thomism1016
    @thomism1016 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Healthcare on the cheap!!! 😡😡😡

  • @TruTube.1.
    @TruTube.1. 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As it should be. The MD has the final say.

  • @AdrianaSchiavenin
    @AdrianaSchiavenin 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    So good NHS
    Doctors give any problems paracetamol

    • @ALAXUKNUTRITIOUSLTD
      @ALAXUKNUTRITIOUSLTD 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Physicians association just degree any life science. MA 1 year. Medical. My school is dr she did 8 years studying

  • @sophieandwayne
    @sophieandwayne 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Bet she had the covid jabs

    • @zog97xy
      @zog97xy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      That's what causes it as I had one.

    • @NoWindNoSunNoPower
      @NoWindNoSunNoPower 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Splendid tin foil hat.

    • @CJones-99
      @CJones-99 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@NoWindNoSunNoPowerbot

    • @NoWindNoSunNoPower
      @NoWindNoSunNoPower 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CJones-99 Keep away from my bot.

    • @justadude8369
      @justadude8369 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Most people have had COVID jabs

  • @alexflorance1111
    @alexflorance1111 หลายเดือนก่อน

    PAs have an important role in healthcare, just like teaching assistants do in teaching, but that role is not diagnosis. The biggest dangers are understaffing, so PAs are pressured into working outside their expertise, and a lack of basic science training. Unfortunately this means a lot of the time, people don’t know what they don’t know. And that is extremely dangerous

  • @sherimurby8307
    @sherimurby8307 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I am a PA student. We study for 5 years!!! 3 years science undergraduate, which underpins all the cellular and pathophysiology, and 2 year masters. Our training does not stop once we qualify. Doctors train for 5 years, and have continuous training also. We will never have the scope of practice of doctors, and we do not want to be doctors, we are there as an extension of the medical team. This PA missed a crucial diagnosis which is absolutely horrific! Doctors misdiagnose every single day, my own mother died due to her GP missing her life threatening condition. We are highly trained, with exceptional knowledge. There needs to be a better understanding of the profession as a whole, because there is so much misinformation about PAs out there.

    • @AylaFMD
      @AylaFMD 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lol delusional

    • @taffyterrier
      @taffyterrier 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AylaFMD Doctors are deluded.

  • @StratsRUs
    @StratsRUs 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Joshi should ease up on the overdone Shakespeare delivery.

  • @beewa8840
    @beewa8840 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Antidote to propanolol? Was she given propanolol as treatment for the wrong diagnosis? Scary stuff! Never knew there was such a role as physician associate. Are these people who have stepped up from nursing?

    • @ebele50
      @ebele50 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nope, they are different with 2 years of crash training.

    • @beewa8840
      @beewa8840 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@ebele50 Wow! 😯 That's terrible! They don't even have the experience of a nurse. 😯😯😯

    • @adeel-eh7xq
      @adeel-eh7xq 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I know PAs can't currently prescribe so how did that happen? I know sometimes PAs prepare medical lists and just the GP or consultant to rubber stamp it.

    • @sherimurby8307
      @sherimurby8307 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ebele50 5 years training!

  • @voice.of.reason
    @voice.of.reason 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I thought a PA was a personal assistant not a substitute GP, how long has this been going on?

  • @ktay7382
    @ktay7382 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Disgraceful treatment

  • @NoWindNoSunNoPower
    @NoWindNoSunNoPower 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    PA is PC for nurse and as they always make perfectly clear, nurses know far more than doctors.

  • @voice.of.reason
    @voice.of.reason 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Many so called GP's are just as useless and often miss things

  • @gratitude1061
    @gratitude1061 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Deepest condolances 😢

  • @valduncan370
    @valduncan370 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Most people don’t know the Pa exist or are only partly trained. We have to ask more questions about who is seeing us in doctors surgery. THIS A HUGE PROBLEM AND MUST BE ADDRESSED BY BMA

    • @taffyterrier
      @taffyterrier 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Never trust the BMA.

  • @nats20001
    @nats20001 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Rishi plans to bring in more physician associates.

  • @cynthiamorris1874
    @cynthiamorris1874 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very bad, but doctors make mistakes too.

  • @aliross953
    @aliross953 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Government have said its ok for pharmacists to pick up the slack, why the surprise with this avoidable tragedy?

  • @pittuk6500
    @pittuk6500 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    and how was the "physician associate's" command of the English language?

  • @skyskyf
    @skyskyf 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Doctors are hated in this country. It’s even frowned upon to refer to yourself as a doctor in the medical setting as some will see this as an ego trip.
    End the funding of Physicians assistants to replace doctors
    Don’t play with peoples lives

    • @taffyterrier
      @taffyterrier 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Anyone can become a doctor in dumbed down Britain.

    • @ThePushUKLifestyle
      @ThePushUKLifestyle 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@skyskyf if they end the funding for PAs, might as well end all MDT funding and see how doctors alone cope with patients including nursing and physio duties. The medical field is not for doctors alone thankfully

  • @antonyjohn6136
    @antonyjohn6136 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The whole thing is spun on it's head. What caused the blood clot in the first place? Something the coroner won't explain or they will lose their job.

  • @mindmatter5930
    @mindmatter5930 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    RIP

  • @davidallum4979
    @davidallum4979 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    GP's aren't exempt from making mistakes!!!

  • @umeriqbal8269
    @umeriqbal8269 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Clotshots + untrained fake degrees immigrant doctors = Goodluck. NHS as we know it is finished.

    • @taffyterrier
      @taffyterrier 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Immigrant doctors are more highly educated.

  • @narglix
    @narglix 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Must we ban all physicians when a physician misses a diagnosis?

    • @tonychorley4936
      @tonychorley4936 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      PA’s are not physicians.

    • @taffyterrier
      @taffyterrier 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tonychorley4936 Physicians misdiagnose.

    • @ThePushUKLifestyle
      @ThePushUKLifestyle 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@narglix very good question because Physicians misdiagnose as well.

  • @aerotus888
    @aerotus888 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Normal!

  • @TheSwargam
    @TheSwargam 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    privatise the NHS..the silly ones don't turn up then, making it a feasible environment for all of us to work.

  • @Rxpyr0
    @Rxpyr0 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    PA’s need to be shut down. This is tragic.

    • @taffyterrier
      @taffyterrier 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What about doctors?

  • @Markdmarque
    @Markdmarque 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They are doing it throughout the hospital with many professions including anesthetists ...dumbing down the quality of care

    • @taffyterrier
      @taffyterrier 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Been dumbed down for decades.

    • @ThePushUKLifestyle
      @ThePushUKLifestyle 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Markdmarque lol actually it’s the opposite that happens, more care in place allowing for doctors to focus on more complicated cases with more assistance

  • @liambowbrick3917
    @liambowbrick3917 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The elephant in the room expired unexpectedly of causes unknown

  • @BrodyLuv2
    @BrodyLuv2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jibby jabby parliaments happy the people are falling down
    They just don't care or more to be fair
    They planned it all along.

    • @BrodyLuv2
      @BrodyLuv2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Never forget these people knowingly injected Madazolam and Morphine into the sick and elderly with chest infections.
      Madazolam is the dg. that the USA used to use in conjunction for the D.P. in their prisons.

  • @DifferentDose
    @DifferentDose 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It's Americanized health care. That's what the "Free Market" demands. Unfortunately there will be tons more 2 yr clinical fast tracks shoved in the health system from here on out!!! How can it be stopped??? 😩

  • @victorgrainger895
    @victorgrainger895 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is going to be much more of this happening I'm afraid. The country has gone to the dogs

  • @StudentDrGigi
    @StudentDrGigi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mid level encroachment is real. This is very sad.

    • @taffyterrier
      @taffyterrier 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The new breed of doctors are mid level.

    • @StudentDrGigi
      @StudentDrGigi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@taffyterrier clap for yourself 😊

  • @derekmoore8224
    @derekmoore8224 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A very common ailment recently?

  • @NoWindNoSunNoPower
    @NoWindNoSunNoPower 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Magnificent parade of splendid tin foil hats in the comments. One of the best I have seen.

    • @stitchlover633
      @stitchlover633 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      they probably dont watch the msm

  • @The_Green_Man_OAP
    @The_Green_Man_OAP 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Better off using an AI.

  • @jonanthony6078
    @jonanthony6078 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Traxine

  • @Paws4Thought669
    @Paws4Thought669 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Baaamba clat !

  • @garethjones909
    @garethjones909 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Let's not forget that the PA was under instructions from a doctor. Just another example of doctors having a god complex

    • @chrismathew6989
      @chrismathew6989 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤡

    • @taffyterrier
      @taffyterrier 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chrismathew6989 a dumbed down doctor

    • @ThePushUKLifestyle
      @ThePushUKLifestyle 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@garethjones909 exactly! Finally someone who understands how PAs and doctors work. Clearly the supervising doctor in this case is being protected. The doctor is just as guilty as is the practice if they don’t clearly don’t ensure that the doctors and PAs are working as they should

  • @steveo4991
    @steveo4991 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Here come the conspiratards.

  • @Getonwithit204
    @Getonwithit204 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Facebook medical experts in the comments.

    • @Raceproved
      @Raceproved 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Time will tell ........................

    • @CJones-99
      @CJones-99 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Been right about more than the media for the past few years...

    • @Getonwithit204
      @Getonwithit204 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CJones-99 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @anti-stupid-not--vax9629
    @anti-stupid-not--vax9629 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Never forget how safe and effective still under clinical trials

  • @anti-stupid-not--vax9629
    @anti-stupid-not--vax9629 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    💉💉💉💉💉

  • @marcoaggy
    @marcoaggy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wonder how many boosters she had?? 🤔