@@LevelUP84 I beg to to differ the NHS Physicians associate webpage says this "Physician associate training usually lasts two years" explain why that is wrong.
@@LevelUP84 It IS two years. Its a two years masters degree on top of an undergraduate degree which doesnt need to be biological science related!! Those two years along with the undergrad cannot compare to a medical degree even if some topics overlap, nor does the role of actually being a doctor to a PA.
Of course this patient had a named doctor who was also the PA's supervisor so it's strange the focus is on scapegoating the PA and not the Doctor, PA AND GP practice especially if they're having PAs work without a named doctor to discuss their cases with as that is how they role is meant to work. All 3 guilty.
@@ThePushUKLifestylebecause a DVT is a barn door diagnosis, these so called PAs should be able to recognise this, and alert a senior doctor. Obviously this PA was ignorant and arrogant enough to think this was nothing serious.
@@kaspian6044 I know right, I was so shocked that the senior doctor in this case did not do their job as both the doctor and PA should have made sure that they were discussing every patient case but most especially the supervising doctor doesn't seem to be checking on the clinic cases as doctors because they are doctors are the named responsible clinician for every patient. I was so shocked that doctors who aren't even PAs also missed PE diagnosis on two other cases I came about. Even medical and PA students would have picked it up. It just shows that even experienced doctors do make mistakes but no one then calls the doctor profession to a halt.
The problem is that in the NHS in the UK they are trying to get rid of doctors title, they already abolished white coats, doctors are introduced by first names therefore patients don’t know who they see everyone is introduced by first name
AI will become your new doctors and they will be better. They already have been tested and all patients preferred them due to their comforting and encouraging language. The AIs also explained their diagnosis so much better that patients felt that these "doctors" actually cared for them and answered their questions.
They abolished the idea of white coats for infection control reasons. They get filthy easily and contribute to spreading hospital-acquired infections. That's nothing to do with doctors as a role.
There's a lot of that been happening over the last year. I wonder what's causing it. I hope Sky and the rest of the media will take a close look at this sudden phenomenon.
I went to see my qualified GP with back pain. He said it was probably muscular. So I went home and googled the anatomy of the spine and went back to him. I told him I thought it was a problem with the sacro iliac joint at the bottom of my spine. He said it could be and sent me to a physio who confirmed that that was the problem. So if GPs can't diagnose things properly what hope do PAs have?
A PA should have been able to diagnose this readily. A good military medic should be able to as well. Classic symptoms. I had a PE and recognized it immediately so they knew what to do when I got to the ER… CT with contrast and then rapid heparin infusions. Missing it twice is totally inexcusable.
True: a lot of the media organisations that were drooling and chomping at the bit for a certain procedure to be mandated suddenly seem oddly mute and bewildered all of a sudden.
I had the same misdiagnosis by a GP. Who said that my DVT was a pulled muscle. 3 weeks later I’m in hospital, with the largest PE (pulmonary embolism) the Dr there had ever seen. And went onto say, that he couldn’t comprehend how I survived, but I did.
The exact same thing happened to me, and I was never sent for a blood test to actually check if there was one. So I suffered a blood clot in my lung, cardiac arrest, and a subsequent brain injury! It's all utter insanity.
This has been happening for years. My partner nearly died when her GP diagnosed her with gastroenteritis due to the severe pain in her lower back, when she actually had a large blood clot in her thigh! My GP diagnosed asthma due to shortness of breath when I actually had blood clots on my lungs. I also very nearly died as a result of this diagnosis.
Sad. Thats because they have no time to take good History and clinical examination. They just treat tge symptoms without proper Diagnosis, which is all medicine is about. NO Diagnosis, NO treatment.
Even doctors with 5-6 years of rigorous undergrad training and then followed by close to 10 years of further training in FY, CT, ST years miss things and misdiagnose. So what hope do people like PAs with a fraction of the training have?
My close friend had a DVT… blood clot in his leg… all the classic symptoms and saw a MD and another MD for a second opinion… they both missed it… only found the clot when he turned up in the ER… so I wouldn’t blame a PA’s training
Cant replace 10 years training minimum. Madness. Drs are trained for a reason. Cant take short cuts with people's lives. N the worse part is they are paid more than most Jr Drs when some nurses are more highly skilled than them.
@@snsn7251 some nurses are also paid more than junior doctors because of their experience. It’s not as if junior doctors don’t get paid as they progress such as the nursing staff who gets paid as they progress and so on
A case like Emily's is a barndoor presentation. Even medical students would be able to pick it up. The fact that this PA wrongly diagnosed, wrongly treated, and delayed escalation to A&E is unacceptable. Those involved need heavy investigation and scrutinisation. Unfortunately, I fear that incidents like this will continue to occur if the quality of healthcare continues to be degraded with more austerity, and more "band-aid" solutions to the workforce crisis. PAs aren't a replacement for doctors. This case is an example. We need doctors to fill doctor roles. I truly fear for the day a loved one must seek healthcare for an urgent issue, and risk their life in the same way.
How many people have died because of incompetent doctors? mistake of one cannot put all in the same boat. Medical students have first 2-3 non-clinical and then last 2 years clinical. PAs have BSc that covers anatomy/physiology etc and then 2 years clinical experience MSc. It is unfair to mention 2 years of training, university of reading provides 4 years training for those without BSc.
I'm a PA and diagnosed life threatening Fournier's gangrene in a patient that was seen for a possible leg blood clot 8 hours previously. That doctor was sued for malpractice, not banned from diagnosing.
@@johnlemmo681 well done. It’s good to see that everyone including doctors misdiagnose and it’s good to see that Physician Associates are capable as well
Thats kind of missing the point though. If a consultant can make mistakes after a decade of experience then how many more mistakes are gonna be made by someone with only two years of less rigorous training? Its frightening.
Not the only death due to a patient being seen by a PA rather than a doctor. There are fully qualified GP’s unable to find a job, so why are health authorities trying to force PAs onto practices. My practice wishes to hire another GP, health authority says no, hire a PA, thankfully they are refusing.
@@tonychorley4936 well, like it or not, it’s the supervising doctor’s responsibility to discuss every patient case with their PA who is seeing their patients on their list. That’s how the profession works and it’s a legal responsibility
I complained I was so breathless with my second pregnancy. I was told at first it’s the pressure of the pregnancy on my body, I started coughing up blood was given meds for a possible infection. 5 days later no better sent straight to the hospital. I had a blood on my lung . This was in 1998
Sorry but the PA at the end saying "if we're not sure what to do we'll escalate the care" - what about situations where a PA is sure they know what's wrong so they don't bother to get a second opinion? It's situations like THAT that are concerning to me.
@@angelicMisha but every patient a PA sees is on a doctor’s list because the doctor is fully responsible for the patient’s management. Each case should be discussed with the supervising doctor and it’s both the supervising doctor and PA to ensure this takes place as ultimately, the doctor is still responsible for making sure that this happens as a supervisor.
By the time a physician associate is sure what to do - it’ll be too late🤷🏾♂️It supposed to be handled by a “Actual Doctor” - and none the less👍🏿👍🏿🤷🏾♂️
Iv been training as a Doctor for 6 years, followed by 3 years of supervised training, followed by official 3 years of MD speciality training before was able to feel a little bit confident on managing patients alone.
RIP Emily I hope there is some justice for this for her family and ultimately for all of us as patients. The government needs to stop rolling this programme out immediately.
PAs have an important role in healthcare, just like teaching assistants do in teaching, but that role is not diagnosis. The biggest dangers are understaffing, so PAs are pressured into working outside their expertise, and a lack of basic science training. Unfortunately this means a lot of the time, people don’t know what they don’t know. And that is extremely dangerous
I am a PA student. We study for 5 years!!! 3 years science undergraduate, which underpins all the cellular and pathophysiology, and 2 year masters. Our training does not stop once we qualify. Doctors train for 5 years, and have continuous training also. We will never have the scope of practice of doctors, and we do not want to be doctors, we are there as an extension of the medical team. This PA missed a crucial diagnosis which is absolutely horrific! Doctors misdiagnose every single day, my own mother died due to her GP missing her life threatening condition. We are highly trained, with exceptional knowledge. There needs to be a better understanding of the profession as a whole, because there is so much misinformation about PAs out there.
Antidote to propanolol? Was she given propanolol as treatment for the wrong diagnosis? Scary stuff! Never knew there was such a role as physician associate. Are these people who have stepped up from nursing?
I know PAs can't currently prescribe so how did that happen? I know sometimes PAs prepare medical lists and just the GP or consultant to rubber stamp it.
Most people don’t know the Pa exist or are only partly trained. We have to ask more questions about who is seeing us in doctors surgery. THIS A HUGE PROBLEM AND MUST BE ADDRESSED BY BMA
Doctors are hated in this country. It’s even frowned upon to refer to yourself as a doctor in the medical setting as some will see this as an ego trip. End the funding of Physicians assistants to replace doctors Don’t play with peoples lives
@@skyskyf if they end the funding for PAs, might as well end all MDT funding and see how doctors alone cope with patients including nursing and physio duties. The medical field is not for doctors alone thankfully
@@Markdmarque lol actually it’s the opposite that happens, more care in place allowing for doctors to focus on more complicated cases with more assistance
Never forget these people knowingly injected Madazolam and Morphine into the sick and elderly with chest infections. Madazolam is the dg. that the USA used to use in conjunction for the D.P. in their prisons.
It's Americanized health care. That's what the "Free Market" demands. Unfortunately there will be tons more 2 yr clinical fast tracks shoved in the health system from here on out!!! How can it be stopped??? 😩
@@garethjones909 exactly! Finally someone who understands how PAs and doctors work. Clearly the supervising doctor in this case is being protected. The doctor is just as guilty as is the practice if they don’t clearly don’t ensure that the doctors and PAs are working as they should
How can a 2year fast tracked clinical training compare with over 10 years of doctors training
Migrant doctors only need diploma can get them off Amazon.
@@LevelUP84 Consultants also misdiagnose. But at least theyre all doctors.
@@LevelUP84 I beg to to differ the NHS Physicians associate webpage says this "Physician associate training usually lasts two years" explain why that is wrong.
@@LevelUP84 It IS two years. Its a two years masters degree on top of an undergraduate degree which doesnt need to be biological science related!! Those two years along with the undergrad cannot compare to a medical degree even if some topics overlap, nor does the role of actually being a doctor to a PA.
the lack of insight at 1:50 is terrifying
No one dares to talk about the elephant in the room.............
Its true, but I winder how many are staring to w o n d e r ?
I wonder how many are trying but being censored...
@@Raceproved They know
I’ll happily talk about your splendid tin foil hat.
@@NoWindNoSunNoPower
Loooooool don't do that!
I spat my drink out all over my TV luaghing 😆
They are blaming the doctors and nurses now for missing this!! The GASLIGHTING continues
Of course this patient had a named doctor who was also the PA's supervisor so it's strange the focus is on scapegoating the PA and not the Doctor, PA AND GP practice especially if they're having PAs work without a named doctor to discuss their cases with as that is how they role is meant to work. All 3 guilty.
It is the doctors fault.
@@ThePushUKLifestylebecause a DVT is a barn door diagnosis, these so called PAs should be able to recognise this, and alert a senior doctor. Obviously this PA was ignorant and arrogant enough to think this was nothing serious.
@@kaspian6044 I know right, I was so shocked that the senior doctor in this case did not do their job as both the doctor and PA should have made sure that they were discussing every patient case but most especially the supervising doctor doesn't seem to be checking on the clinic cases as doctors because they are doctors are the named responsible clinician for every patient. I was so shocked that doctors who aren't even PAs also missed PE diagnosis on two other cases I came about. Even medical and PA students would have picked it up. It just shows that even experienced doctors do make mistakes but no one then calls the doctor profession to a halt.
This was a disaster waiting to happen.
sure do seem to be an awful lot of clots related mortalities lately
Yes, ive watched a video saying how people with serious cases of covid 19 has seen an increase of blood clots.
The problem is that in the NHS in the UK they are trying to get rid of doctors title, they already abolished white coats, doctors are introduced by first names therefore patients don’t know who they see everyone is introduced by first name
AI will become your new doctors and they will be better. They already have been tested and all patients preferred them due to their comforting and encouraging language.
The AIs also explained their diagnosis so much better that patients felt that these "doctors" actually cared for them and answered their questions.
I've seen it in other areas of work too; the downgrading of professionalism and expertise.
They abolished the idea of white coats for infection control reasons. They get filthy easily and contribute to spreading hospital-acquired infections. That's nothing to do with doctors as a role.
There's a lot of that been happening over the last year. I wonder what's causing it. I hope Sky and the rest of the media will take a close look at this sudden phenomenon.
Splendid tin foil hat.
@@NoWindNoSunNoPower BOT
@@NoWindNoSunNoPower Yep: I didn't think your empty head would be able to muster anything up after that.
@bobjames6622 Keep away from my bot.
Safe and effective comes to mind
I went to see my qualified GP with back pain. He said it was probably muscular. So I went home and googled the anatomy of the spine and went back to him. I told him I thought it was a problem with the sacro iliac joint at the bottom of my spine. He said it could be and sent me to a physio who confirmed that that was the problem. So if GPs can't diagnose things properly what hope do PAs have?
It's a scary life we're living when Google can save our lives and a professional in medicine is too lazy to give a fvck
Most Docs are pill pushers and only work part time.
The physios deal with muscular pain so the doctor was right,.hope this helps
A PA should have been able to diagnose this readily. A good military medic should be able to as well. Classic symptoms. I had a PE and recognized it immediately so they knew what to do when I got to the ER… CT with contrast and then rapid heparin infusions. Missing it twice is totally inexcusable.
Im not a doctor and even I know that a swollen leg with chest pain could be a clot in the leg thats gone to the lungs
@AellaMaud Sounds like this PA wasnt even aware of typical symptoms then
What were your symptoms? @AellaMaud
@@justadude8369 : it’s a lame profession. Government and universities are fooling students. There is no employment for this profession now.
CLOTSHOT
Splendid tin foil hat.
@@NoWindNoSunNoPower Whos wearing the Tin foil hat now? Astra zenica has been pulled due to clots and Pfizer is paying up in compensations
It is one death that came to light due to associates inefficiency. But there may be many which did not come to public attension RIP...
Weird that nobody is talking about the cause of her clot or how many have died from the clotshots.
Yeah awful lot of young people getting clots since 2020 🤫
True: a lot of the media organisations that were drooling and chomping at the bit for a certain procedure to be mandated suddenly seem oddly mute and bewildered all of a sudden.
Splendid tin foil hat.
@@jackspring7709Try looking up the word MIGHT.
@@NoWindNoSunNoPower BOT
Safe....and effective.
Sudden and Unexpected.
@@shauneden4229doctors are baffled
I had the same misdiagnosis by a GP. Who said that my DVT was a pulled muscle.
3 weeks later I’m in hospital, with the largest PE (pulmonary embolism) the Dr there had ever seen.
And went onto say, that he couldn’t comprehend how I survived, but I did.
personal injury compensations?
Same here and they said the same thing.
A friend’s young sister had a DVT missed by her Dr and at A&E. She died. This was before 2020.
The exact same thing happened to me, and I was never sent for a blood test to actually check if there was one. So I suffered a blood clot in my lung, cardiac arrest, and a subsequent brain injury! It's all utter insanity.
@@denisescally7090it's a frighteningly common occurrence
Losing trust in the medical field.
This has been happening for years. My partner nearly died when her GP diagnosed her with gastroenteritis due to the severe pain in her lower back, when she actually had a large blood clot in her thigh! My GP diagnosed asthma due to shortness of breath when I actually had blood clots on my lungs. I also very nearly died as a result of this diagnosis.
Sad. Thats because they have no time to take good History and clinical examination. They just treat tge symptoms without proper Diagnosis, which is all medicine is about. NO Diagnosis, NO treatment.
Doctors miss blood clots too. The diagnosis is often missed because they don't do risk assessments.
So because planes sometimes crash, we should let air hostesses fly?
@@Propofol1234 Doctors are negligent.
@@taffyterrier All of them?
It's a complete mystery
Doctors are baffled
Even doctors with 5-6 years of rigorous undergrad training and then followed by close to 10 years of further training in FY, CT, ST years miss things and misdiagnose. So what hope do people like PAs with a fraction of the training have?
Sudden clot?
it does seem a distraction from the cause of the blood clot
Blunder upon Blunder. That sums up todays NHS & Politicians of today
My close friend had a DVT… blood clot in his leg… all the classic symptoms and saw a MD and another MD for a second opinion… they both missed it… only found the clot when he turned up in the ER… so I wouldn’t blame a PA’s training
Cant replace 10 years training minimum. Madness. Drs are trained for a reason. Cant take short cuts with people's lives. N the worse part is they are paid more than most Jr Drs when some nurses are more highly skilled than them.
Junior doctors are overpaid.
@@snsn7251 some nurses are also paid more than junior doctors because of their experience. It’s not as if junior doctors don’t get paid as they progress such as the nursing staff who gets paid as they progress and so on
Say's he who seemingly takes short cuts with their grammar.
@@taffyterrier No, we're not
They can charge the same amount for a PA visit as a Dr visit
Tragic!
Safe and effective
This is the new normal.
A case like Emily's is a barndoor presentation. Even medical students would be able to pick it up. The fact that this PA wrongly diagnosed, wrongly treated, and delayed escalation to A&E is unacceptable. Those involved need heavy investigation and scrutinisation.
Unfortunately, I fear that incidents like this will continue to occur if the quality of healthcare continues to be degraded with more austerity, and more "band-aid" solutions to the workforce crisis.
PAs aren't a replacement for doctors. This case is an example.
We need doctors to fill doctor roles.
I truly fear for the day a loved one must seek healthcare for an urgent issue, and risk their life in the same way.
Doctors are negligent.
Another “died suddenly” who probably boasted about being double jabbed and boosted.
The General Medical Council has effectively given up on any professional and ethical oversight. A public inquiry is urgently needed.
Patients need to insist on seeing a doctor not an associate.
Why?
How many people have died because of incompetent doctors? mistake of one cannot put all in the same boat. Medical students have first 2-3 non-clinical and then last 2 years clinical. PAs have BSc that covers anatomy/physiology etc and then 2 years clinical experience MSc. It is unfair to mention 2 years of training, university of reading provides 4 years training for those without BSc.
And pilots sometimes crash planes. Does that mean the cabin crew should fly instead?
So because the smartest people in the country make mistakes, that means we should let btec med school rejects should be able to take the reigns?
@@Propofol1234 Anyone of average intelligence can get a place at British medical school since the entry requirements were watered down.
I'm a PA and diagnosed life threatening Fournier's gangrene in a patient that was seen for a possible leg blood clot 8 hours previously. That doctor was sued for malpractice, not banned from diagnosing.
@@johnlemmo681 well done. It’s good to see that everyone including doctors misdiagnose and it’s good to see that Physician Associates are capable as well
🤨1:32 totally false!
Ive also been misdiagnosed before, as has my mother and father. The doctors and consultants arent up to scratch, as a whole.
Thats kind of missing the point though. If a consultant can make mistakes after a decade of experience then how many more mistakes are gonna be made by someone with only two years of less rigorous training? Its frightening.
@@justadude8369 I'm 100% on board with your way of thinking here. It's terrifying.
Not the only death due to a patient being seen by a PA rather than a doctor. There are fully qualified GP’s unable to find a job, so why are health authorities trying to force PAs onto practices. My practice wishes to hire another GP, health authority says no, hire a PA, thankfully they are refusing.
Doctors also misdiagnose with monotonous regularity.
@@tonychorley4936 well, like it or not, it’s the supervising doctor’s responsibility to discuss every patient case with their PA who is seeing their patients on their list. That’s how the profession works and it’s a legal responsibility
I complained I was so breathless with my second pregnancy. I was told at first it’s the pressure of the pregnancy on my body, I started coughing up blood was given meds for a possible infection. 5 days later no better sent straight to the hospital. I had a blood on my lung . This was in 1998
What is the point of physicians associates?
@@RomeoMike22 what is the point of having an MDT?
@@ThePushUKLifestyle I don't know what that is
How the hell were they given that kind of authority in the first place!!!
Because doctors keep getting it wrong.
What is a PA?
What is a doctor?
Sorry but the PA at the end saying "if we're not sure what to do we'll escalate the care" - what about situations where a PA is sure they know what's wrong so they don't bother to get a second opinion? It's situations like THAT that are concerning to me.
@@angelicMisha but every patient a PA sees is on a doctor’s list because the doctor is fully responsible for the patient’s management. Each case should be discussed with the supervising doctor and it’s both the supervising doctor and PA to ensure this takes place as ultimately, the doctor is still responsible for making sure that this happens as a supervisor.
Doctors misdiagnose aswell though.
And pilots sometimes crash planes. Does that mean the cabin crew should fly instead?
@@ta4770 = dumbed down doctor
By the time a physician associate is sure what to do - it’ll be too late🤷🏾♂️It supposed to be handled by a “Actual Doctor” - and none the less👍🏿👍🏿🤷🏾♂️
Same difference.
@@taffyterrier No it's not 🙏🏿 That's the idea👍🏿 They assist the physician for a reason☀️
Iv been training as a Doctor for 6 years, followed by 3 years of supervised training, followed by official 3 years of MD speciality training before was able to feel a little bit confident on managing patients alone.
RIP Emily
I hope there is some justice for this for her family and ultimately for all of us as patients.
The government needs to stop rolling this programme out immediately.
Couldn’t agree more
Her family must sue the individual responsible for this beautiful young woman death
Covid vaccine?
Splendid tin foil hat.
@@NoWindNoSunNoPower BOT
@bobjames6622 Keep away from my bot.
@@NoWindNoSunNoPower Is a fair question, did this lovely unfortunate lady have a Covid Vaccine!
@@Robert-xy4xi It's recognised as a rare adverse event, but is it not more common?
Don't think our Dr would have spotted it either.
And this is where health services are heading, folks!
Healthcare on the cheap!!! 😡😡😡
As it should be. The MD has the final say.
So good NHS
Doctors give any problems paracetamol
Physicians association just degree any life science. MA 1 year. Medical. My school is dr she did 8 years studying
Bet she had the covid jabs
That's what causes it as I had one.
Splendid tin foil hat.
@@NoWindNoSunNoPowerbot
@@CJones-99 Keep away from my bot.
Most people have had COVID jabs
PAs have an important role in healthcare, just like teaching assistants do in teaching, but that role is not diagnosis. The biggest dangers are understaffing, so PAs are pressured into working outside their expertise, and a lack of basic science training. Unfortunately this means a lot of the time, people don’t know what they don’t know. And that is extremely dangerous
I am a PA student. We study for 5 years!!! 3 years science undergraduate, which underpins all the cellular and pathophysiology, and 2 year masters. Our training does not stop once we qualify. Doctors train for 5 years, and have continuous training also. We will never have the scope of practice of doctors, and we do not want to be doctors, we are there as an extension of the medical team. This PA missed a crucial diagnosis which is absolutely horrific! Doctors misdiagnose every single day, my own mother died due to her GP missing her life threatening condition. We are highly trained, with exceptional knowledge. There needs to be a better understanding of the profession as a whole, because there is so much misinformation about PAs out there.
Lol delusional
@@AylaFMD Doctors are deluded.
Joshi should ease up on the overdone Shakespeare delivery.
Antidote to propanolol? Was she given propanolol as treatment for the wrong diagnosis? Scary stuff! Never knew there was such a role as physician associate. Are these people who have stepped up from nursing?
Nope, they are different with 2 years of crash training.
@@ebele50 Wow! 😯 That's terrible! They don't even have the experience of a nurse. 😯😯😯
I know PAs can't currently prescribe so how did that happen? I know sometimes PAs prepare medical lists and just the GP or consultant to rubber stamp it.
@@ebele50 5 years training!
I thought a PA was a personal assistant not a substitute GP, how long has this been going on?
Disgraceful treatment
PA is PC for nurse and as they always make perfectly clear, nurses know far more than doctors.
Many so called GP's are just as useless and often miss things
Deepest condolances 😢
Most people don’t know the Pa exist or are only partly trained. We have to ask more questions about who is seeing us in doctors surgery. THIS A HUGE PROBLEM AND MUST BE ADDRESSED BY BMA
Never trust the BMA.
Rishi plans to bring in more physician associates.
Very bad, but doctors make mistakes too.
Government have said its ok for pharmacists to pick up the slack, why the surprise with this avoidable tragedy?
and how was the "physician associate's" command of the English language?
Doctors are hated in this country. It’s even frowned upon to refer to yourself as a doctor in the medical setting as some will see this as an ego trip.
End the funding of Physicians assistants to replace doctors
Don’t play with peoples lives
Anyone can become a doctor in dumbed down Britain.
@@skyskyf if they end the funding for PAs, might as well end all MDT funding and see how doctors alone cope with patients including nursing and physio duties. The medical field is not for doctors alone thankfully
The whole thing is spun on it's head. What caused the blood clot in the first place? Something the coroner won't explain or they will lose their job.
RIP
GP's aren't exempt from making mistakes!!!
Clotshots + untrained fake degrees immigrant doctors = Goodluck. NHS as we know it is finished.
Immigrant doctors are more highly educated.
Must we ban all physicians when a physician misses a diagnosis?
PA’s are not physicians.
@@tonychorley4936 Physicians misdiagnose.
@@narglix very good question because Physicians misdiagnose as well.
Normal!
privatise the NHS..the silly ones don't turn up then, making it a feasible environment for all of us to work.
PA’s need to be shut down. This is tragic.
What about doctors?
They are doing it throughout the hospital with many professions including anesthetists ...dumbing down the quality of care
Been dumbed down for decades.
@@Markdmarque lol actually it’s the opposite that happens, more care in place allowing for doctors to focus on more complicated cases with more assistance
The elephant in the room expired unexpectedly of causes unknown
Jibby jabby parliaments happy the people are falling down
They just don't care or more to be fair
They planned it all along.
Never forget these people knowingly injected Madazolam and Morphine into the sick and elderly with chest infections.
Madazolam is the dg. that the USA used to use in conjunction for the D.P. in their prisons.
It's Americanized health care. That's what the "Free Market" demands. Unfortunately there will be tons more 2 yr clinical fast tracks shoved in the health system from here on out!!! How can it be stopped??? 😩
There is going to be much more of this happening I'm afraid. The country has gone to the dogs
Mid level encroachment is real. This is very sad.
The new breed of doctors are mid level.
@@taffyterrier clap for yourself 😊
A very common ailment recently?
Magnificent parade of splendid tin foil hats in the comments. One of the best I have seen.
they probably dont watch the msm
Better off using an AI.
Traxine
Baaamba clat !
Let's not forget that the PA was under instructions from a doctor. Just another example of doctors having a god complex
🤡
@@chrismathew6989 a dumbed down doctor
@@garethjones909 exactly! Finally someone who understands how PAs and doctors work. Clearly the supervising doctor in this case is being protected. The doctor is just as guilty as is the practice if they don’t clearly don’t ensure that the doctors and PAs are working as they should
Here come the conspiratards.
Facebook medical experts in the comments.
Time will tell ........................
Been right about more than the media for the past few years...
@@CJones-99 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Never forget how safe and effective still under clinical trials
💉💉💉💉💉
I wonder how many boosters she had?? 🤔