It's a shame it took me more than 8 years to study medicine and at the end , I ended up quitting the job to be a science teacher. What a weird world we live in and how to.survive.
Yes, I know. Also my daughter studied medicine, I thought it would be different for her, but after three years of uni, she got to know several junior doctors, who were so dissatisfied with their work places, that it made her change career completely, which I feel dubious about. Should she continue and maybe see the light in the end of a tunnel, start to enjoy working in future or like some feel burdened and burnt beyond repair. Judging now how she enjoys her recent job, I recon she made right choice, otherwise it could be several years lost ( even I think knowledge of medicine is always useful, not really lost). Happiness and satisfaction from your work are important in any profession, and if the job does not bring those, better find another one.
@@iwas1451 Being a doctor in the UK isn't really worth it anymore, but it's still a very lucrative profession in other parts of the world, like the United States, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada.
That doctor didn’t feel valued or supported……..it’s no different for nurses and having been qualified 20 years I left the NHS because of bullying by management and I was absolutely burnt out mentally and physically. It’s an awful place to work, but it could be the most amazing organisation……however, the government don’t care…..they don’t care about the patients, they don’t care about the staff and they don’t care about the NHS as an establishment.
A nurse of 25 years too, yes it’s nurses that feel it too and unfortunately some of the Drs can be the cause of some of the bullying and feelings of inadequacy. It’s a chain reaction. I’m so pleased I left the public system to go private after about 15 years in the public system, the change was like night and day.
Hospital workers see so much suffering It’s too much. It’s extremely heavy work. It’s not just doctors. I was a porter. I had to leave . I felt like a tired old horse pushed to my physical limits Seeing human suffering is taxing to your soul
My ex was a doctor at a prestigious hospital in London. He was incredibly overworked and it took a toll on us both. He has since moved to Australia and his work life balance is unbelievably different to what it was here. He is happier. Lots of doctors are looking to go abroad for their profession. I mean better pay, better structure and respect. NHS has suffered for years. I really do feel for all staff.
It's clearly evident that work and home life is being ignored by nhs and government. This is clearly effecting all nhs staff within the hospitals that are being denied flexi shifts and choices. I know I work 12.5 hour shifts and am on the verge of resignation to go and work on the Bank system. Why? Choices and family time
What the Tories have done to this country, is barely shy of criminal. Accountability is the only deterrent to the idiotic greed and arrogance that the elitist political class, has demonstrated.
@@Casa43635 It's not even that good. In 2010 The average wage in the UK was £47K+ - Rep, Irelands, was 34K+. Today the UK's is around £32K+ And Rep, Ireland's is £55K+ ! Largest effective wage drop in UK history! Brits currently have the lowest Avg, wages among Industrialised nations. And that doesn't even account for inflation.
I am a physician, not practicing in the UK. I am on the verge of tears every single day at this point. I am way beyond physical, emotional and mental exhaustion and no one seems to care. I get paid less than 1.500 euros a month which is barely enough to support my living expenses. After 11 years of study, I am at the point when I'm just happy when I get a free weekend. I am about to leave medicine for good.
being a patient recently in hospital i can honestly say every nurse was worked off their feet so much i felt guilty taking up their time i felt real sorry for them
10 years and 4 months ago I got diagnosed with reactive arthritis as an 18 year old boy. My first consultation to discuss the possibility of steroids, surgery etc. has been booked for 2027 since. And only god knows how long those treatments will have to wait after that consultation. I have lost my life, my ability to exercise, my ability to walk longer than 15 minutes. It has affected my career prospects, my relationships, just about everything. If that's how bad things are in this country then I'm not suprised the doctors themselves are struggling.
As a doctor from Australia, tens of colleagues from the NHS have told me how poor the system was back in the UK. It is a governmental issue that needs to be fixed, Full qualified Doctors 7-8 years out of a medical degree lasting 6+ years are already paying off heavy student loans. I’ve been told they are living paycheck to paycheck whilst barely paying utility bills and groceries. Whether the doctors are striking or leaving to other countries, it needs to be addressed as many real people have had appointments cancelled with only life threatening services offered.
Poorly educated, badly trained, incompetent NHS doctors are among the highest paid in Europe but provide one of the worst services in Europe. An MBChB degree should only take 5 years - not 6+.
I'm German and have studied and finished biology and medicine. I'm also having second thoughts on my decisions because the health care system in Germany is also under increased pressure with people leaving the system and costs overall rising. I'm starting to consider moving to Switzerland to practice.
@@slimnaz00 As a Pole who has been working in the UK as a pharmacist for 10 yrs I 'm sick of technocracy, bureaucracy at the system .I consider work Ireland or Switzerland or Malta.The NHS moves problems to the pharmacy and it is horrible I don't feel satisfied and my job doesn't make sense. At the moment there is closure for the second biggest retailer in the UK like Lloyd's ,hundreds of stores .I heard rumors that Asda supermarkets are going to close and Tesco in the North .I don't want finish fighting for every penny with Asians who probably could buy most what will be left .It is perspective how would look like in 10 yrs for me .I could earn double in more developed country like Ireland .In Switzerland I'm afraid of their mentality ,heard that Germans don't like them .Must be a reason.Because of stores closure wages for the pahrmacist has gone down
I'm a GP and have observed colleagues resigning at an alarming rate in the last 6 months. Medicine is a wonderful career but the working condition and chronic stress make the job very challenging. When I signed up for medicine I knew the job required working long hours. However, the sacrifices doctors make due to the demand of work and rota are often at the expense of personal lives. i.e Missed Christmas, birthdays and weddings with loved ones. During my training, I was overworked but kept up with the increasing demand of work and pressure. A few years ago, after a hectic 13.5hr night shift I started to notice the impact of heightened chronic stress, sleepless nights and long hours on my health. Looking back, I was a few months away from a burnout.
Me too. I was hypertensive and didn’t even know it. Thought the headaches were due to dehydration. I wanted to do a good job, sacrificed so much, and in my hour of need realised I was just another number. Lost all goodwill. The moral injury was real
My Grandfather was a GP in Spain. He worked at a public Hospital starting at 8 am and finishing at 2 pm. He would then come home to eat, have a half an hour siesta and then go to his private clinic which would be opened from 4 pm to 9 pm. He would get home at 10 pm. He did this until he was 82 years old only retiring because he had a stroke. He LOVED being a doctor, it was everything to him. He would even leave in the middle of a family celebration not because one of his patients was really sick but because that patient needed someone to talk to. When he was at Medical School he didn’t have much money and had to choose between taking the tram to Uni or eating; he went without eating many times. I think that’s the difference. He was a truly vocational doctor. They are not so common anymore.
Oh, I forgot. Our "short"rostered week was 75 hours. Our long week was seven days. Hours worked could be from 72 hours to an entire week. The "carrot" was the reference that the hsopital gave each resident. This "reference" travelled with each job application for the rest of that doctor's life!!!
I am sorry nearly 3 years ago my beautiful mum passed away at the Royal free hospital , the nhs doctors were so uncaring and cold. It's also the way society is in the uk.
It's to do with top-heavy remuneration, a permanent bureaucracy, and a skewed effort:reward ratio. This causes the productive to form a protective shell around themselves in order to deal with the organizational corruption of their workplaces, and the hazing they experience from their seniors.
Sorry for your loss....The NHS has become like a factory production line. Health staff treat patients as commodities rather than human beings. There is little empathy shown to patients or distressed relatives. Training for doctors & nurses needs to be improved. The training lacks basic care skills, it's focused on technology. Both go together.
@@susanmorgan3104 How can a doctor who is thinking about his/her rent can focus on patients ? Medicine is so hard and it needs great focus and mental calmness. Anxious or depressed doctor can not help anyone, the doctors need help.
My partner is in her second year as a junior doctor. Her rotas are managed by a doctor who volunteers for the job and isn't training to do it. She is supposed to get 6 weeks notice on her shifts and days off. She doesn't even know what her shifts are two weeks from now, let alone when she can book annual leave for the summer
The blame culture needs to change. Consultants shout at senior doctors who then shout at junior doctors who then shout at senior nurses who then shout at other nurses who then shout at HCA aka health care assistants! Phwe! Personal experience!
I think senior nurses shout at junior doctors. They are less experienced, fresh out of uni, doubtful about their own expertise and knowledge. Usually only weeks into the job. I highly doubt a junior would shout at the head sister and I have never seen that happen. I have seen senior nurses boss around, be passive aggressive and sneer at junior docs though
Its tough for all NHS workers not just doctors, biomedical scientists are the backbone of the NHS. They are forgotten and overlooked, the job is highly stressful and staff are significantly underpaid. We have no option to strike as staff can easily be replaced by an influx of oversee workers and privatisation of pathology services. Staff are not only resigning some have even attempted suicide due to a lack of support and horrendous work life balance. Nobody really cares as budget is the main priority, your just a number thats easily replaceable.
Best decision i made in 2015 was leaving my nursing job and switching to Real Estate. I see many of my classmates getting burned out. Cant believe spent so many hours in this education and just so underappreciated in my country, and other countries too.
I have come from a low income country to the NHS. In my view, NHS is an inefficient system with lots of things that can be improved with less effort.Yes, there's a shortage of staff but its surplus based on what we have in my country of origin. Few things that can be done to reduce burn out are: 1. Stop these rotational training and provide a certain level of stability for the doctors in a particular place. 2. I don't understand the concept of night sets and I don't know how on earth doctors here are happy to work for 4 nights in a row. I think a single 24 hours shift with frequent rest in between is way better than even 2 night sets but again sticking to the policies. 3. Then comes on call. There is a shift doctor who is working, rather commuting to different hospitals and there's a on call who is sitting at home anxious and worried about when the phone rings. Just divide work in 2 different sites. 4. No decent hot foods throughout 24 hours. It doesn't take millions to make a good hot food or at least some food and water available in every workplace. 5. No vehicle provision to commute. Seriously, its a basic necessity. Just pick up and send doctors home during odd hours and arrange a car for them throughout shifts. It would make them feel a lot less burn out. There are many more. These basic things are even available in my home country which is one of the poorest in the world. I came here for better life and money. My earning is relatively better but life at work is far more miserable here. I can see 100 patients a day in my country and won't feel tired but here I feel tired after just 5-10 patients. Its because of all these non-sense beaurocracy and paperwork which can be made far more easy with the use of tech. On the top of that, GMC is far too strict. No doctor wants to harm patient but the way GMC thinks is every doctor is a culprit until they provide a proof. These small stuffs would make a huge difference.
I am a nurse working in the NHS for 3 years. I have witnessed how the system works and it is very frustrating. Didn’t have a proper break when i did my nights because of emergency situations. Burnout and underpaid. I am planning to start my application in the US this year which they have a better compensation compared to UK.
The working conditions for junior doctors in the UK even before the modernising medical careers program were always less than ideal. The career progression has been so politicised that the NHS is now dangerous place to work. It started getting worse and worse because management became a capitalist mafia over working minimal clinical staff and rotating them round and round or hiring them on short term contracts even before they have a chance to acclimatise and acquire the necessary skills to progress. Overseas graduate doctors have been exploited, discriminated , bullied for decades . What's changed is that in recent times local graduates have been made to suffer as well. And ofcourse they are not going to suffer in silence but vocally and publicly demand their rights. Medicine is one of the most rigorous and demanding professions and now its no longer rewarding because greedy overpaid politicians and managers are not putting patients first.
The free healthcare model is coming to the end of its life cycle. The sooner we accept that and introduce a more efficient hybrid system (akin to Germany or Australia's), the sooner we can start improving conditions and pay for healthcare professionals, as well as waiting times for patients. The UK needs to lose its religious and irrational devotion to the NHS. Nothing ever seems to get done about the NHS crisis because whenever someone suggests actual change, all we get is "the Tories are privatizing our NHS!!!". Even if the nurses and doctors do get pay rises, it's like putting a plaster on a broken leg.
We pay national insurance and too much taxes most of us. It's the Govt mis management. Image how much is paid to Thornbury agency to pay supply hca, nurse's doctor's to nhs. Now they can't give them better pay rise, which will attract more workers to join NHS hence reduce work load.
In other parts of the world, working for the government as a specialist doctor for many years is frowned upon by colleagues, because it suggests that this doctor prefers to be in his comfort zone, just sucking from the government's titties. Working in private practice requires a lot of self education and a lot of commitment to move the practice forward. This scenario is similar with lawyers. The lawyers working for the government cannot do any better that's why they stay there, however the lawyers that have developed the skills to go out of their comfort zone, are the ones calling the shots and are the ones taking the profession to a higher level
Not just pay and pensions: Workload, conditions, public expectations unrelated to NHS capacity, unsupportive (hostile) management, disproportionate regulation, reforms without coalface engagement, outlook (trajectory), loss of trust with leadership, blame culture, politicisation, sense of injustice, exhaustion, fear for patient safety... every year for the last decade, 'the worse NHS crisis ever' without let up.
Perhaps we need to question whether the NHS model can actually work in the long run. No system that is run as a free-at-entry service will ever be adequately funded.
It got me when I couldn't cook brunch for some friends, just couldn't work it. Sounds sill, that was my head stopping working. Break the service, say it doesn't work, the answer privities it!! Oldest trick in the book. They
UK doctors need to look at the numbers in US - if anything it’s worse here, no maternity leave or other generally expected benefits and mid level encroachment making job security even less likely. Thousands of US grads cannot get residency training
Many in NHS are quitting and moving over to the Private Sector and funny enough in some cases the PS is in the same building as NHS but with better conditions, how that works i don't know. This is a plan for the "golden goose" and where blame falls on the staff. "Well it wasn't our fault we had to sell the NHS, it's a staffing issue". Went from hero to zero like that *clicks fingers*
Salesman for big pharmacy is all they are since the 1970s. Hopefully we can go back to remedies and more natural medicine instead of this mrna experimental drugs.
COMMENT: The long term planning of NHS is driven from the education professionals, as politics of the professors, of logistics, whom are socially engineering a change in society, one of conflict by design, at the point of presentation in protestation and rebuttal thereof, reflective of such capacity constraints evident within the system, as a myopic focus upon "risk" as a "transfer of risk", as a function of reductionism and a skew to the utilitarianism of a commodity driven services, reflective by proxy of similar extreme presented from the provision of elderly care within councils, as a 2nd class service to the of the NHS, as per the covid pandemic issues; such is a generational systemic changes, driven through the demographics of population change, and inadequate systemic design of capacity, as the assertion of the acceptance of a lesser state of being, whilst there is a politically camouflaged rampant inflation, from the abstracted house prices, affordability issues and more importantly equally the non functioning pensions sytem, as a skew to the older generations .... go figure.
Sitting in my garden after a night of 🤮 because I didn't have time to chew my food rpoperly during oncall day. A day off sick for which I will be penalised with an extension of my training. Living on budget, each month woreying about paying bills. That's the reality of working in NHS. 😢
This is such nonsense. Any changes will be made to the pay scale for all. He could only divide and conquer with doctors. Nursing unions can talk but they probably won't accept anything that doesn't benefit the whole. Anyone who thinks they can don't realise how closely all the professions work and how interwoven everyone's jobs are
Go to Norway or Switzerland, been to a+e equivalent in both and UK is 30years behind. 🤞More people start realising the people in charge don't care, Britain on strike.
Doctors have literally the most important job in the world…no other industry can exist without healthy people to operate it….unwillung to pay healthcare workers but willing to pay politicians and bankers
@@taffyterrierhow are they overpaid? If the world suddenly crumbled they would be the most valuable people, knowledge and skills money cant buy which is everyone at some point in their life is going to need
@@moonlightbae6143 If the world suddenly crumbled farmers would be more important as people cannot survive without food. Doctors are overvalued and overpaid.
Does Sky 'News' want to comment on Yahoo news headlines ''Leave us alone': Nicola Bulley's family criticise Sky and ITV's intrusive coverage'? Because blaming it on the police is not the right way to shift attention!
Well, they've turned off all the comments on their youtube videos that have anything to do with that, so they certainly are too cowardly to allow the public to comment.
It just gets to be too many people and not enough money going into the NHS fund. I don't live there but it just makes sense. Do the math. How many people does the NHS service that pay nothing into the fund?
as a resident, I was expeectged to see 20 patients an hour, working 18 hour days, for $3.00 per hour for the first 40 hours. Then the rest was for "free".
The politicians have already been "privatized" as they are controlled by the big corporations. Their objective is to eliminate the public sector in order to promote privatization for the benefit of large corporations. The healthcare system is being sold off in a similar manner to the energy sector, resulting in record profits for corporations and inflated prices for consumers.
Without the experienced staff or older mentors to back up the NHS as well... or from at least a few generation's staff... they would also hit at issues as well. And this is also tie in with those doctors, who were also experienced... and they also entered the pharma sectors as well... And then this adds to the pressures too. So many skilled and experienced individuals, who previously did a lot... and they entered into the extended scope of medicine...
Have to avoid cases like nurse who set fire to himself & doctor gawa barba & neurosurgeon who topped in himself at st georges this is why nhs needs to look after staff correctly
@@joee8278 Doctors are overpaod for a job that just needs google and drinking coffee. 30k pre tax is what it deserves and prison time for any mistakes that cause morbidity or death.
One of the problem is the passive aggressive culture, behind the "polite excuse" that never address the obvious facts to not be rude. Now that aggressive way of being is not passive anymore, nurses are the one who are recieving the worst, Drs are complaining now because that is touching to them, but they never ever care about anything before the situation didn't touch to them.
It is the same in Asia. There are people who want to serve, but at the same time, at the end of the day, they are just humans. They have basic needs. They have needs.
If a Doctor is unhappy with the UK NHS, then go to work at a private Clinic where the money is better and the Patients have full health insurance cover . My GP earns over £100,000 per year and is very happy with his job.
@@abeonthehill166 lmaooo and that's supposed to be a GOOD thing? 25,000 after 5 years of a medical degree? 5 years of completely unpaid work- 3 of which are in hospital? Stop joking
Recruit more Filipino nurses but be sure also to compensate their extra work and give their bonuses. Sure it will give more nurses to come to the United States if your American healthcare system is good.😊
I think, that across all work places and jobs, and lifestyles in general, all us are finding out, that what once fitted, and was good - no longer fits and is no longer good. In and of itself, that is fine - but - the 'train', or 'idea', of what's next, still cannot be seen. It is as if summer is over, winter is here: what happend to Autumn? There has been a mass consciousness shift in humanity, globally, with very few of us having found our own new, still yet to come: life affirming snug cubbyhole.
The vast majority of Doctors who work privately do so in addition to working full-time in the NHS. Hence why the vast majority of private GP and hospital appointments, treatments and surgeries are done in the late evenings and all day Saturday and Sunday.
Definitely clear preferential treatment. People who are blaming immigrants aren't looking at the picture as a whole, education is terrible, the young are more interested in short term success on tik tok etc rather than long term careers in say the NHS. Mps getting pay rises. Our government has neglected growth for 15 years
oh nothing the do with the straight A's, work experience, entrance exams and extra curriculer achievments they need just to get a med school interview.
It's a shame it took me more than 8 years to study medicine and at the end , I ended up quitting the job to be a science teacher. What a weird world we live in and how to.survive.
My son works hard at school to get to medicine. I am so pround of him , but now to be honest I started doubting if it is worth the sacrifise.
Yes, I know. Also my daughter studied medicine, I thought it would be different for her, but after three years of uni, she got to know several junior doctors, who were so dissatisfied with their work places, that it made her change career completely, which I feel dubious about. Should she continue and maybe see the light in the end of a tunnel, start to enjoy working in future or like some feel burdened and burnt beyond repair. Judging now how she enjoys her recent job, I recon she made right choice, otherwise it could be several years lost ( even I think knowledge of medicine is always useful, not really lost). Happiness and satisfaction from your work are important in any profession, and if the job does not bring those, better find another one.
@@iwas1451 Take it from those of us on the other side. It isn’t.
@@iwas1451 Being a doctor in the UK isn't really worth it anymore, but it's still a very lucrative profession in other parts of the world, like the United States, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada.
Why waste your medical degree go be a doctor in America easyyyyyy money
That doctor didn’t feel valued or supported……..it’s no different for nurses and having been qualified 20 years I left the NHS because of bullying by management and I was absolutely burnt out mentally and physically. It’s an awful place to work, but it could be the most amazing organisation……however, the government don’t care…..they don’t care about the patients, they don’t care about the staff and they don’t care about the NHS as an establishment.
A nurse of 25 years too, yes it’s nurses that feel it too and unfortunately some of the Drs can be the cause of some of the bullying and feelings of inadequacy. It’s a chain reaction. I’m so pleased I left the public system to go private after about 15 years in the public system, the change was like night and day.
Amen
The Tories never wanted the NHS in the first place so of course they don't care about it
Hospital workers see so much suffering It’s too much. It’s extremely heavy work. It’s not just doctors. I was a porter. I had to leave . I felt like a tired old horse pushed to my physical limits Seeing human suffering is taxing to your soul
Not just Drs. Everyone is fed up. The abuse from some patients, bullying, stress from workload etc. Etc. Its too much.
As Nurse I retired 2021. Burnout can lead to depression not to mention suppression of the immune system.
wow, i hope your mental and physical health get better Susan
I can't stand the nhs and all the staff in it
They are disgraceful, and they are useless
My ex was a doctor at a prestigious hospital in London. He was incredibly overworked and it took a toll on us both. He has since moved to Australia and his work life balance is unbelievably different to what it was here. He is happier. Lots of doctors are looking to go abroad for their profession. I mean better pay, better structure and respect. NHS has suffered for years. I really do feel for all staff.
America is better for pay
It's clearly evident that work and home life is being ignored by nhs and government.
This is clearly effecting all nhs staff within the hospitals that are being denied flexi shifts and choices.
I know I work 12.5 hour shifts and am on the verge of resignation to go and work on the Bank system. Why?
Choices and family time
@@oliveoil3917 worse for the people that use the system and have to pay tho right.
@@oliveoil3917 American doctors have to work hard.
What the Tories have done to this country, is barely shy of criminal. Accountability is the only deterrent to the idiotic greed and arrogance that the elitist political class, has demonstrated.
Tories don’t care. They have increased their wages just this year alone while everyone else is still on wages that are not enough.
@@Casa43635 It's not even that good. In 2010 The average wage in the UK was £47K+ - Rep, Irelands, was 34K+. Today the UK's is around £32K+ And Rep, Ireland's is £55K+ ! Largest effective wage drop in UK history! Brits currently have the lowest Avg, wages among Industrialised nations. And that doesn't even account for inflation.
I blame Brexit voters for enabling this
I am a physician, not practicing in the UK. I am on the verge of tears every single day at this point.
I am way beyond physical, emotional and mental exhaustion and no one seems to care.
I get paid less than 1.500 euros a month which is barely enough to support my living expenses.
After 11 years of study, I am at the point when I'm just happy when I get a free weekend.
I am about to leave medicine for good.
Same here
come to uk
It's just so sad to see the NHS staff having to cope like this it's just heartbreaking 💔😪
NHS hasn't moved with the times, it needs modernising
And a few more diversity and inclusion managers.
Everything is collapsing around us, make way for the new world.
being a patient recently in hospital i can honestly say every nurse was worked off their feet so much i felt guilty taking up their time i felt real sorry for them
10 years and 4 months ago I got diagnosed with reactive arthritis as an 18 year old boy. My first consultation to discuss the possibility of steroids, surgery etc. has been booked for 2027 since. And only god knows how long those treatments will have to wait after that consultation. I have lost my life, my ability to exercise, my ability to walk longer than 15 minutes. It has affected my career prospects, my relationships, just about everything. If that's how bad things are in this country then I'm not suprised the doctors themselves are struggling.
As a doctor from Australia, tens of colleagues from the NHS have told me how poor the system was back in the UK. It is a governmental issue that needs to be fixed, Full qualified Doctors 7-8 years out of a medical degree lasting 6+ years are already paying off heavy student loans. I’ve been told they are living paycheck to paycheck whilst barely paying utility bills and groceries. Whether the doctors are striking or leaving to other countries, it needs to be addressed as many real people have had appointments cancelled with only life threatening services offered.
Poorly educated, badly trained, incompetent NHS doctors are among the highest paid in Europe but provide one of the worst services in Europe.
An MBChB degree should only take 5 years - not 6+.
I'm German and have studied and finished biology and medicine. I'm also having second thoughts on my decisions because the health care system in Germany is also under increased pressure with people leaving the system and costs overall rising. I'm starting to consider moving to Switzerland to practice.
@@slimnaz00 As a Pole who has been working in the UK as a pharmacist for 10 yrs I 'm sick of technocracy, bureaucracy at the system .I consider work Ireland or Switzerland or Malta.The NHS moves problems to the pharmacy and it is horrible I don't feel satisfied and my job doesn't make sense. At the moment there is closure for the second biggest retailer in the UK like Lloyd's ,hundreds of stores .I heard rumors that Asda supermarkets are going to close and Tesco in the North .I don't want finish fighting for every penny with Asians who probably could buy most what will be left .It is perspective how would look like in 10 yrs for me .I could earn double in more developed country like Ireland .In Switzerland I'm afraid of their mentality ,heard that Germans don't like them .Must be a reason.Because of stores closure wages for the pahrmacist has gone down
I'm a GP and have observed colleagues resigning at an alarming rate in the last 6 months. Medicine is a wonderful career but the working condition and chronic stress make the job very challenging. When I signed up for medicine I knew the job required working long hours. However, the sacrifices doctors make due to the demand of work and rota are often at the expense of personal lives. i.e Missed Christmas, birthdays and weddings with loved ones. During my training, I was overworked but kept up with the increasing demand of work and pressure. A few years ago, after a hectic 13.5hr night shift I started to notice the impact of heightened chronic stress, sleepless nights and long hours on my health. Looking back, I was a few months away from a burnout.
Me too. I was hypertensive and didn’t even know it. Thought the headaches were due to dehydration. I wanted to do a good job, sacrificed so much, and in my hour of need realised I was just another number. Lost all goodwill. The moral injury was real
Thanks for your service Erwin. Dad was a GP and then moved to New York for better pay .
My Grandfather was a GP in Spain. He worked at a public Hospital starting at 8 am and finishing at 2 pm. He would then come home to eat, have a half an hour siesta and then go to his private clinic which would be opened from 4 pm to 9 pm. He would get home at 10 pm. He did this until he was 82 years old only retiring because he had a stroke. He LOVED being a doctor, it was everything to him. He would even leave in the middle of a family celebration not because one of his patients was really sick but because that patient needed someone to talk to. When he was at Medical School he didn’t have much money and had to choose between taking the tram to Uni or eating; he went without eating many times. I think that’s the difference. He was a truly vocational doctor. They are not so common anymore.
What is righteous has now become evil ,and what is evil has now become righteousness.
Agree, we live in a topsy turvy society!
I'm a nurse, finished school in 2005, and I wanna leave but I don't know where. I'm tired.
Occupational Health Care, medical equipment trade, education, many options just open up to them
@c s yes australia I also looking to go but they have thier own problems along with teachers leaving burnouts and and too many shifts
Qatar or UAE ..Malaysia..Australia
Echo/CT/MRI tech
Oh, I forgot. Our "short"rostered week was 75 hours. Our long week was seven days. Hours worked could be from 72 hours to an entire week. The "carrot" was the reference that the hsopital gave each resident. This "reference" travelled with each job application for the rest of that doctor's life!!!
The public would never understand the complication faced by that profession!
Never been simpler.
Taffy terrier at it again. Someone wishes they were a doctor me thinks 😂
I am sorry nearly 3 years ago my beautiful mum passed away at the Royal free hospital , the nhs doctors were so uncaring and cold. It's also the way society is in the uk.
It's to do with top-heavy remuneration, a permanent bureaucracy, and a skewed effort:reward ratio. This causes the productive to form a protective shell around themselves in order to deal with the organizational corruption of their workplaces, and the hazing they experience from their seniors.
Sorry for your loss....The NHS has become like a factory production line.
Health staff treat patients as commodities rather than human beings.
There is little empathy shown to patients or distressed relatives.
Training for doctors & nurses needs to be improved. The training lacks basic care skills, it's focused on technology.
Both go together.
@@susanmorgan3104
How can a doctor who is thinking about his/her rent can focus on patients ?
Medicine is so hard and it needs great focus and mental calmness.
Anxious or depressed doctor can not help anyone, the doctors need help.
My partner is in her second year as a junior doctor. Her rotas are managed by a doctor who volunteers for the job and isn't training to do it. She is supposed to get 6 weeks notice on her shifts and days off. She doesn't even know what her shifts are two weeks from now, let alone when she can book annual leave for the summer
All done on purpose they want it gone
The blame culture needs to change. Consultants shout at senior doctors who then shout at junior doctors who then shout at senior nurses who then shout at other nurses who then shout at HCA aka health care assistants! Phwe! Personal experience!
So true!
I think senior nurses shout at junior doctors. They are less experienced, fresh out of uni, doubtful about their own expertise and knowledge. Usually only weeks into the job. I highly doubt a junior would shout at the head sister and I have never seen that happen. I have seen senior nurses boss around, be passive aggressive and sneer at junior docs though
Anyone who isn't a consultant is a "junior doctor", and actually a great deal of toxicity works the other way around as well.
This comes in a time when thousands on my home land doctors quit their jobs for a role in their dreamland: the UK. Just shocked!
Its tough for all NHS workers not just doctors, biomedical scientists are the backbone of the NHS. They are forgotten and overlooked, the job is highly stressful and staff are significantly underpaid. We have no option to strike as staff can easily be replaced by an influx of oversee workers and privatisation of pathology services. Staff are not only resigning some have even attempted suicide due to a lack of support and horrendous work life balance. Nobody really cares as budget is the main priority, your just a number thats easily replaceable.
Best decision i made in 2015 was leaving my nursing job and switching to Real Estate. I see many of my classmates getting burned out. Cant believe spent so many hours in this education and just so underappreciated in my country, and other countries too.
I have come from a low income country to the NHS. In my view, NHS is an inefficient system with lots of things that can be improved with less effort.Yes, there's a shortage of staff but its surplus based on what we have in my country of origin.
Few things that can be done to reduce burn out are:
1. Stop these rotational training and provide a certain level of stability for the doctors in a particular place.
2. I don't understand the concept of night sets and I don't know how on earth doctors here are happy to work for 4 nights in a row. I think a single 24 hours shift with frequent rest in between is way better than even 2 night sets but again sticking to the policies.
3. Then comes on call. There is a shift doctor who is working, rather commuting to different hospitals and there's a on call who is sitting at home anxious and worried about when the phone rings. Just divide work in 2 different sites.
4. No decent hot foods throughout 24 hours. It doesn't take millions to make a good hot food or at least some food and water available in every workplace.
5. No vehicle provision to commute. Seriously, its a basic necessity. Just pick up and send doctors home during odd hours and arrange a car for them throughout shifts. It would make them feel a lot less burn out.
There are many more. These basic things are even available in my home country which is one of the poorest in the world. I came here for better life and money. My earning is relatively better but life at work is far more miserable here. I can see 100 patients a day in my country and won't feel tired but here I feel tired after just 5-10 patients. Its because of all these non-sense beaurocracy and paperwork which can be made far more easy with the use of tech. On the top of that, GMC is far too strict. No doctor wants to harm patient but the way GMC thinks is every doctor is a culprit until they provide a proof.
These small stuffs would make a huge difference.
True
Very very true
The US isn't any better for residents/junior doctors. Be aware of that before making the journey. Best of luck!
I am a nurse working in the NHS for 3 years. I have witnessed how the system works and it is very frustrating. Didn’t have a proper break when i did my nights because of emergency situations. Burnout and underpaid. I am planning to start my application in the US this year which they have a better compensation compared to UK.
The working conditions for junior doctors in the UK even before the modernising medical careers program were always less than ideal. The career progression has been so politicised that the NHS is now dangerous place to work.
It started getting worse and worse because management became a capitalist mafia over working minimal clinical staff and rotating them round and round or hiring them on short term contracts even before they have a chance to acclimatise and acquire the necessary skills to progress. Overseas graduate doctors have been exploited, discriminated , bullied for decades . What's changed is that in recent times local graduates have been made to suffer as well. And ofcourse they are not going to suffer in silence but vocally and publicly demand their rights. Medicine is one of the most rigorous and demanding professions and now its no longer rewarding because greedy overpaid politicians and managers are not putting patients first.
Damn right !!!
The free healthcare model is coming to the end of its life cycle. The sooner we accept that and introduce a more efficient hybrid system (akin to Germany or Australia's), the sooner we can start improving conditions and pay for healthcare professionals, as well as waiting times for patients. The UK needs to lose its religious and irrational devotion to the NHS. Nothing ever seems to get done about the NHS crisis because whenever someone suggests actual change, all we get is "the Tories are privatizing our NHS!!!". Even if the nurses and doctors do get pay rises, it's like putting a plaster on a broken leg.
spoken like a tory
We pay national insurance and too much taxes most of us. It's the Govt mis management. Image how much is paid to Thornbury agency to pay supply hca, nurse's doctor's to nhs. Now they can't give them better pay rise, which will attract more workers to join NHS hence reduce work load.
In other parts of the world, working for the government as a specialist doctor for many years is frowned upon by colleagues, because it suggests that this doctor prefers to be in his comfort zone, just sucking from the government's titties.
Working in private practice requires a lot of self education and a lot of commitment to move the practice forward.
This scenario is similar with lawyers. The lawyers working for the government cannot do any better that's why they stay there, however the lawyers that have developed the skills to go out of their comfort zone, are the ones calling the shots and are the ones taking the profession to a higher level
Government priority is not NHS or economy. Its about Ukraine.
It's about nwo wef etc
Its the capitalist mafia who decide govt. policy housed at 55 Tufton Street.Rule of criminals.
Brilliant observation
True
Not just pay and pensions: Workload, conditions, public expectations unrelated to NHS capacity, unsupportive (hostile) management, disproportionate regulation, reforms without coalface engagement, outlook (trajectory), loss of trust with leadership, blame culture, politicisation, sense of injustice, exhaustion, fear for patient safety... every year for the last decade, 'the worse NHS crisis ever' without let up.
Perhaps we need to question whether the NHS model can actually work in the long run. No system that is run as a free-at-entry service will ever be adequately funded.
I've been deliberating this myself as well. Example, amount of drug wastage due to patient stockpiling is alone a huge amount of cost
It got me when I couldn't cook brunch for some friends, just couldn't work it. Sounds sill, that was my head stopping working. Break the service, say it doesn't work, the answer privities it!! Oldest trick in the book. They
I’m sorry to her. How sad we lost her 😢
UK doctors need to look at the numbers in US - if anything it’s worse here, no maternity leave or other generally expected benefits and mid level encroachment making job security even less likely. Thousands of US grads cannot get residency training
In India ,doctors r beaten by bystanders is a common scenario….work is so hectic and underpaid also …
Many in NHS are quitting and moving over to the Private Sector and funny enough in some cases the PS is in the same building as NHS but with better conditions, how that works i don't know. This is a plan for the "golden goose" and where blame falls on the staff. "Well it wasn't our fault we had to sell the NHS, it's a staffing issue". Went from hero to zero like that *clicks fingers*
See that's the plus a socialized medicine good doctors I'm gonna do it they spent all those years of school for what
Salesman for big pharmacy is all they are since the 1970s. Hopefully we can go back to remedies and more natural medicine instead of this mrna experimental drugs.
Dumbed down qualifications.
35%? Our company has just issued us 4% Get real!
Public sector parasites.
Are they tired of murdering the elderly? RIP Mum xx Stay away from these death camps 😢
COMMENT: The long term planning of NHS is driven from the education professionals, as politics of the professors, of logistics, whom are socially engineering a change in society, one of conflict by design, at the point of presentation in protestation and rebuttal thereof, reflective of such capacity constraints evident within the system, as a myopic focus upon "risk" as a "transfer of risk", as a function of reductionism and a skew to the utilitarianism of a commodity driven services, reflective by proxy of similar extreme presented from the provision of elderly care within councils, as a 2nd class service to the of the NHS, as per the covid pandemic issues; such is a generational systemic changes, driven through the demographics of population change, and inadequate systemic design of capacity, as the assertion of the acceptance of a lesser state of being, whilst there is a politically camouflaged rampant inflation, from the abstracted house prices, affordability issues and more importantly equally the non functioning pensions sytem, as a skew to the older generations .... go figure.
Sitting in my garden after a night of 🤮 because I didn't have time to chew my food rpoperly during oncall day. A day off sick for which I will be penalised with an extension of my training. Living on budget, each month woreying about paying bills. That's the reality of working in NHS. 😢
This is such nonsense. Any changes will be made to the pay scale for all. He could only divide and conquer with doctors. Nursing unions can talk but they probably won't accept anything that doesn't benefit the whole. Anyone who thinks they can don't realise how closely all the professions work and how interwoven everyone's jobs are
Go to Norway or Switzerland, been to a+e equivalent in both and UK is 30years behind. 🤞More people start realising the people in charge don't care, Britain on strike.
That’s probably cuz they dont have loans . American docs are drowning in loans- cant leave
Doctors have literally the most important job in the world…no other industry can exist without healthy people to operate it….unwillung to pay healthcare workers but willing to pay politicians and bankers
Doctors are overpaid.
@@taffyterrier
An uber driver in UK makes way more than a consultant.
And stop liking your own comment
@@Givemeproofkid A consultant in the UK makes way more than a uber driver.
Doctors are overpaid.
@@taffyterrierhow are they overpaid? If the world suddenly crumbled they would be the most valuable people, knowledge and skills money cant buy which is everyone at some point in their life is going to need
@@moonlightbae6143 If the world suddenly crumbled farmers would be more important as people cannot survive without food. Doctors are overvalued and overpaid.
Does Sky 'News' want to comment on Yahoo news headlines ''Leave us alone': Nicola Bulley's family criticise Sky and ITV's intrusive coverage'? Because blaming it on the police is not the right way to shift attention!
Well, they've turned off all the comments on their youtube videos that have anything to do with that, so they certainly are too cowardly to allow the public to comment.
Sky news will always be vile #fakenews
I thought Canada and Australia had model socialized medicine🤒
It just gets to be too many people and not enough money going into the NHS fund. I don't live there but it just makes sense. Do the math. How many people does the NHS service that pay nothing into the fund?
All industries are playing the same game get rid of the workers on the higher wages and replace with cheaper new staff its staff rotation.
The students have no idea what awaits them. Like a star eyed soldier going off to a war.
They've done nowt for 3 year
When is Sky going to apologise to the Bulley family for their atrocious behaviour?
That's the job of the media
Never. Burley needs the boot.
I wouldn't hold your breath
We had better health care in the 70`s !
We had intelligent doctors in the 70s !
Come to Australia we need more highly qualified doctors the pay and life style are good ,old jimmy Aust
Australia has standards.
as a resident, I was expeectged to see 20 patients an hour, working 18 hour days, for $3.00 per hour for the first 40 hours. Then the rest was for "free".
''$3.00 per hour'' How is this even possible?
one patient every 3 minutes? seems safe
Why do anything for free again?
Can we privatise politics? MPs etc? This is a legit question because they have failed in every way, shape and form.
I think someone already has
@@markwelch3564 it amazes me how asleep people are.
The politicians have already been "privatized" as they are controlled by the big corporations.
Their objective is to eliminate the public sector in order to promote privatization for the benefit of large corporations.
The healthcare system is being sold off in a similar manner to the energy sector, resulting in record profits for corporations and inflated prices for consumers.
@@shakhan1848 Yes, don't contribute to the discussion, just continue to add snide remarks.
@@ryand141 keep scrolling dude.
Some hospital managers have a lot to answer for....
Without the experienced staff or older mentors to back up the NHS as well... or from at least a few generation's staff... they would also hit at issues as well. And this is also tie in with those doctors, who were also experienced... and they also entered the pharma sectors as well... And then this adds to the pressures too. So many skilled and experienced individuals, who previously did a lot... and they entered into the extended scope of medicine...
8:53 that is one horrible way to go about it!
The NHS needs to be abolished.
The government wants to get its priorities right in its own country, b4 noseing and worrying bout elsewhere.
Yeah it’s rough out there on all sides . Some sides way sicker tganothers
Have to avoid cases like nurse who set fire to himself & doctor gawa barba & neurosurgeon who topped in himself at st georges this is why nhs needs to look after staff correctly
they are ridiculously well paid for a job thats only worth 30k pre tax
@@rickkarsan4491 sorry what?
@@joee8278 Doctors are overpaod for a job that just needs google and drinking coffee. 30k pre tax is what it deserves and prison time for any mistakes that cause morbidity or death.
@@rickkarsan4491 ok troll
One of the problem is the passive aggressive culture, behind the "polite excuse" that never address the obvious facts to not be rude. Now that aggressive way of being is not passive anymore, nurses are the one who are recieving the worst, Drs are complaining now because that is touching to them, but they never ever care about anything before the situation didn't touch to them.
It is the same in Asia. There are people who want to serve, but at the same time, at the end of the day, they are just humans. They have basic needs. They have needs.
Just as well we have so many fine doctors arriving in Dover every day.
That's not the issue here barney rewatch the video perhaps 😄
Whilst Doctors and everyone else is struggling to pay for their bills Tories MPs have increased their wages.
Doctors wages have been increased.
its a sign of bad things to come like the robots taking over. keep stocking up and prepare to start again.
Look like some indian hospitals 😂😂😂, no difference but some indian pvt hospitals are still better 😂😂😂😂
We need priority NHS for those non Brexit voters and non conservative voters
@5:12 Weird hearing this as the idea to time my log in in today flashed through my mind. I had a commodore 64 that loaded up faster!
Breaking the NHS to turn it private.
This is such a shame.. it would seem we are falling apart as a country,
all part & parcel of the WEF 6UILD 6ACK 6ETTER pogrom
Very sad
This documentary just addresses doctors what about nurses, in my team are work I’ve seen 14 people leave over the past 2 years only 3 replaced
There’s quite a few documentaries on nurses leaving just do a search
Because the video is exploring the drs perspective 😊
@@xsentfromuk8938 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
If a Doctor is unhappy with the UK NHS, then go to work at a private Clinic where the money is better and the Patients have full health insurance cover .
My GP earns over £100,000 per year and is very happy with his job.
junoirs cant actually join private I think only consultant doctors can and that can tale minimum 5 years after uni
@@partnermammoth2562 ….they can work as Medical assistants and earn £25000 per year until they can get a Doctor position
@@abeonthehill166 I didnt know that thats interesting
@@abeonthehill166 lmaooo and that's supposed to be a GOOD thing? 25,000 after 5 years of a medical degree? 5 years of completely unpaid work- 3 of which are in hospital? Stop joking
She is so smart wow
So dumb.
I've got burnout waiting on the phone to get appointments
Privatisation is on the way....
Recruit more Filipino nurses but be sure also to compensate their extra work and give their bonuses. Sure it will give more nurses to come to the United States if your American healthcare system is good.😊
I think, that across all work places and jobs, and lifestyles in general, all us are finding out, that what once fitted, and was good - no longer fits and is no longer good.
In and of itself, that is fine - but - the 'train', or 'idea', of what's next, still cannot be seen. It is as if summer is over, winter is here: what happend to Autumn? There has been a mass consciousness shift in humanity, globally, with very few of us having found our own new, still yet to come: life affirming snug cubbyhole.
Fantastic stuff filling a gap for a while...Now can F off again!
This is true.
Some very silly, uninformed comments here.
From NHS worshippers.
Overworked and underpaid!
Please support the Junior Doctors to continue saving lives.
#PayRestoration
#EnoughIsEnough
#supportjuniordoctors
#JuniorDoctorsStrike
CORRECTION: Underworked and overpaid!
hedge fund set fire to measuring equipment ??
Happy to work private though, don’t seem quite so burned out then do they…
The vast majority of Doctors who work privately do so in addition to working full-time in the NHS. Hence why the vast majority of private GP and hospital appointments, treatments and surgeries are done in the late evenings and all day Saturday and Sunday.
Definitely clear preferential treatment. People who are blaming immigrants aren't looking at the picture as a whole, education is terrible, the young are more interested in short term success on tik tok etc rather than long term careers in say the NHS. Mps getting pay rises. Our government has neglected growth for 15 years
Because private has much better conditions? Tf is your point?
they add burnt in so are now in search of more wood to burn
We’re STILL being invaded 😅🤷🏽♂️
Well we can import more doctors from India
the nhs has a system problem
Yes it's called the conservative party.
Make sunak watch this ......if only. 😡😡
because they weren't cut out to be doctors in the first place, and were only given the place at university to begin with as they were "on brand".
oh nothing the do with the straight A's, work experience, entrance exams and extra curriculer achievments they need just to get a med school interview.
@@rickkarsan4491 every student gets straight As in dumbed down Britain.
Spot on.
And Labour. All political parties are to blame, don’t be so blindly partisan.
Oh come off it as if America wants to take a dr who works for NHS 😂
America has standards and can pick and choose.
increase there pay rates tories
SLASH THEIR PAY !!!
why slash?
Because they are overworked and underpaid... very simple
Because they are underworked and overpaid… very simple