These kids don't have any real debating experience or have dealt with a lot of philosophical discussions like Cliffe has. That does not mean the kid is wrong and should convert. Cliffe is a very good communicator and excellent in rhetoric. Unfortunately for him when he debated Matt Dillahunty who is just as good, Cliffe had to constantly pivot and appeal to emotions. You really should watch that debate with an open mind that is to say if you care about reason or what makes sense rather than the ideal.
@Marlena , I experienced it differently. The kid seemed to speak just fine. Quite articulate in fact. I didn't sense any speechlessness. It was a good discussion by two intelligent people. I think Cliffe had good answers for him but it wasn't some sort of intellectual slaughter. I like this video a lot as well.
Starting at 17:30, I love that portion where he talks about how there isn't absolute certainty with anything in life. It's not realistic to live with 2+2=4 certainty with all of our decisions. There is never a guarantee for anything. I love how he brought marriage and all of his examples to relay his point. Cliffe is a word artist. Praise God for His preservation of the Word and how more evidence points to God being the truth as time goes on. It's beautiful and brings me to tears on how people don't see it.
Watched this on the tv. But I had to come back on here to comment that this was indeed one of the best videos. That kid was inspiring as well. Hope he finds the truth. Greetings from India
@@darkeen42 Morally? Wheee Donyou get off with Morality? Who defines morality for you? You don't have an absolute definition of morality. Your truth is trying to find a fault in something else without realising that you have no basis for truth yourself. Your arguments are bankrupt.
Fantastic. Kudos to the young man. He was lost and now he is found. He won't forget that day.
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The more emotional debate I've ever seen since I follow you. At the end I was holding back my tears. God bless your life Cliff, your son, your family and your ministry! You've been a light for our generation 🥹👏 Greetings from Colombia 🇨🇴
The problem with this young man was he shouldn't put all of his world view, and faith into his religion, instead Jesus Christ alone, that was his break down. Being a Christian, is not about being religious, it's about a relationship with God, through Jesus Christ!!!
Pastor Cliff, thank you for your Devotion and Ministry and your Joyful heart for The Sovereign father and Lord Jesus Christ and The Holy Spirit :) Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Amen
I wasted some of my life but I never left my faith in Jesus. I will be 58 in August and disabled medically and physically but I just keep on going and people ask me how. You trust in the Lord and you live knowing that there is something around the next corner for you or you give up and die and that is not how I want to die I want to live as long as I can! I have put my life in Jesus hands since I was a child.
I've learn much over the last fifteenth years about theology but never having a one on one with a sceptic, thanks for showing me the way!!!!!!! Shabbat Shalom!!!!
@@darkeen42 I saw this video and I don't see any lies given. By Cliffe and he doesnt look like a retard. If you disagree with him that's one thing but you sound like a sad hater 🤣. Secondly the gospel of Mark was not anonymous for hundreds of years. Many (and I mean many) new testament scholars would agree with me. Nice try though Michael.
Cliffe u are inspiring to me brother. God bless you as you try to win over many souls for the kingdom of God. Its a hard road but Christ is with you. Ty for your uploads
Kliff, brother in JESUS! Only The living GOD can create an INSPIRATIONAL Man like you and your son. May GOD CONTINUE giving you his wisdom greater then yesterday to CONTINUE touching us to the end. "I have started a good thing in you,and it will be finished when JESUS returns "( paraphrasing for the respect of the word of God).
The Jesus story is the greatest story ever written by non witnesses after the fact. I'm still waiting after two thousand years for Jesus to make good on his promise to come back in glory and rapture me up into his magic kingdom in the clouds.
The gospels are eye witness accounts. The writer interviewed the disciples that actually traveled with Jesus for three years watching Him heal people and change lived and they listened to His teachings and realized Jesus was God incarnate. It’s really hypocritical to down play the eye witnesses to Jesus Christ but rely on eye witness accounts during trials in the courts. If you witnessed a car accident you would be bursting at the seams to give your eye witness account. Why should we really on your testimony but when it comes to Jesus you can’t believe the eye witness accounts of the disciples, hmmm how hypocritical.
Mazen Ghani(have not been on my account in a while(sorry for a late reply)) this was ment for people who get mad at atheists(for just not believing) it was not meant for a random Christian.
when you say( atheists get a taste of reality) can you give me hardcore evidence, for your religion, and then we can play ping pong( go back and forth until one loses)
This one was so powerful. I really believe Cliffe saved this young man. So powerful at the end Cliffe had everyone's attention. Everyone was locked in.
Well put Cliffe!!....the part that talks about what we as humans are really living for?.....is it Wealth, Possession or the Holy Spirit of God? Very powerful!
That pause at the end though. I've never seen anyone's mind being changed over 100's of these videos of staunch atheists, but this guy is the closest I've seen. 🔥🙏
We are so uncertain about life to hang our life on uncertainties. That's why we have our own life to live and our own choices to make... Whether Christianity or Atheism. However we have our rational mind and the choice to take a leap of faith and call out to God. We only have to do it once and as much ad we are tempted to not do so based on our own ego the thing is... We can't help ourselves and expect to one true God helps us... No one else will.
It should be stated that there is no such thing as an agnostic-atheist, you cannot know and not know at the same that's a contradiction. You're either an atheist, agnostic or theist, there are no hyphenated titles for all three.
+jrc99us I can't count the number of times atheists have tried to redefine atheism to agnosticism to shift the burden of proof. Sir/Madam, you are not an atheist, you are an agnostic. If they tell me 'There's not enough evidence to support theism,' What I hear is, "Based on what we don't know, I am convinced that there is no God" or " Even though I don't know all, I know enough to know that there is no all-knowing God." Atheists say, "I know there is no God" x=0 Agnostics say, "I don't know if there is no God" x=? Theists say, "I know there is a God" x=>1 Monotheists say, "I know there is one God." x=1 Polytheists say, "I know there are many gods." x>1
***** 'Lack of belief' is recognized as skepticism. Which falls under agnosticism. Strong agnosticism says, "I don't know if God exists, but it's unlikely." Weak agnosticism says, "I don't know if God exists, but it's possible." Strong atheism says, "God doesn't exist." or "There is no God." (Anti-theism says,"Religion should die!") Weak atheism is basically agnosticism. "gnostic - atheist - Knowing is possible, and since we don't know yet, no belief in a god." This is inconsistent w/ claims and behaviors made by atheists Do you believe God exists? A. Yes (Theism) B. No. (Atheism) C. I Don't Know/Unsure (Agnosticism) How many gods exist? A. x>1 (Polytheism) B. 1 (Monotheism) C. 0 (Atheism) D. IDK/Unsure (Agnosticism)
*****"Atheism- late 16th century: from French athéisme, from Greek atheos, from a- ‘without’ + theos ‘god.’ A = w/o Theism = God(s) An atheist is someone w/o a god. "Agnostic-mid 19th century: from a-1 ‘not’ + gnostic." "Gnostic-late 16th century (as a noun): via ecclesiastical Latin from Greek gnōstikos, from gnōstos ‘known’ (related to gignōskein ‘know’). 1. of or relating to knowledge, especially esoteric mystical knowledge." A = not Gnosticism = to know (in relation to the supernatural) An agnostic is someone who doesn't/can't know the nature of the supernatural.
***** And yet, most of they comments I read or the atheists I hear claim that there is no God, that God is a myth/delusion, that only idiots believe in God, and slander and lies and more. Does atheism become anti-theism when the person attacks theism? Or makes an objective claim?
Eternal life is more than just a length of time. The Bible states, eternal life is knowing God, the father and Jesus Christ and what a wonderful thing that will be.
Not checkmate friend.... it’s not us versus them. Our fight is not against flesh and blood. God is calling this young man & we are to love him into His family
This was a good one, my only complaint was his exaggeration of the manuscript variance. I would have said slight/insignificant variance of less than 5% and mentioned that it does not impact core statements at all.
Bhagavad-gita does not recommend nirvana as the ultimate goal, no. Certain schools of Buddhism recommend nirvana as the ultimate goal, but not all of them do.
my revolation from God. On the evening of Nov. 1st 2023 just under a month after Israel was attacked, The angel of the Lord came upon me. My arms stretched apart, then together in prayer. I then fell to my knees and the glory of the Lord shone round about me. Immediately I was in the spirit: i first went through a cloud and after revealed a lot of eyes who's color was like unto the day sky. Like the beast and seraphim of Ezekiel which were round about the Throne. Before the Throne was a sea of glass like unto crystal, and He that sat upon the Throne was a great light like unto the sun but vastly brighter, and a rainbow shown round about the Throne. That great light is God. I began to plea, please take me Lord, please take me. My fiancee Emily heard a thud from the bedroom above the kitchen which alarmed her. She came downstairs to the livingroom adjacent to the kitchen which had a blanket covering the door. She could her me speaking in a language that wasn't like any known to man. For he that speaketh in a unknown tounge speaketh not to men but unto God. She then moved the blanket to reveal me on my knees face down with my feet crossed. In that same moments my vision ended. She hid herself behind the blanket, I then approached her and embraced her and told her what I had just witnessed.2023 just under a month after Israel was attacked, The angel of the Lord came upon me. My arms stretched apart, then together in prayer. I then fell to my knees and the glory of the Lord shone round about me. Immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold four beast, which were full of eyes who's color was like unto the day sky. Like the beast of Ezekiel which were round about the Throne. Before the Throne was a sea of glass like unto crystal, and He that sat upon the Throne was a great light like unto the sun but vastly brighter, and a rainbow shown round about the Throne. That great light is God, for God is light in absence of darkness. I began to plea, please take me Lord, please take me. My fiancee Emily heard a thud from the bedroom above the kitchen which alarmed her. She came downstairs to the livingroom adjacent to the kitchen which had a blanket covering the door. She could here me speaking in a language that wasn't like any known to man. (For he that speaketh in a unknown tounge speaketh not to men but unto God). She then moved the blanket to reveal me on my knees face down with my feet crossed. In that same moments my vision ended. She hid herself behind the blanket, I then approached her and embraced her and told her what I had just witnessed.
I gotta 1st of all stop and appreciate the amount of time spent with God, the amount of study & research pastor Cliffe does in order to do what he does. He dropped d BOOM! on dat last point wen he told him dat he's being a hypocrite or intellectually dishonest seeking a 2+2 evidence to believe in d God of scripture when he knows fully well that he believes in s/thing dat doesn't fulfill d 2+2 evidence he's demanding from d God of scripture.
***** Do you really need an explanation for the absurdity of scapegoating? Do you think holding innocent being(s) responsible for the punishment (or atonement) of the guilty being(s) is moral? Just imagine giving criminals convicted of a capital offense the option to have someone else stand in for their punishment. Several of histories' more charismatic psychopaths had plenty of brainwashed followers willing to take the penalty of their hero/criminal. Let's go from the theoretical to the real world. If the mass murderer's victims were your friends or family members....NOW how do you about an innocent being dying for that crime? Meanwhile, the guilty party is not only still alive, they are absolved and scot-free. There is NO CONTEXT that makes scapegoating just. You disagree? Please provide an answer to my original question: How does the murder of the innocent take away the crimes of the guilty?
LeggoMyLamb You made a truth claim, you failed to provide any evidence to support your truth claim, and I called you on it. I am very satisfied with how this conversation has unfolded, and I now bid you adieu -- forever -- both of us knowing full well that your silly comment has been refuted. You are free to continue writing, but since I won't read any more of your ignorant tripe, you should be aware that you'll be talking to yourself.
I find it really unfortunate to say it lightly the pain and scars religions like mormonism and JW's leave on people, some never make it to the real Jesus in their life because if it. I hope God has mercy on them.
Brothers and sisters. Ask yourselves why are you here, on this channel. 6 years 34k views. I believe that God chose 34k people who viewed this to do the same as Cliff. There are videos with 5m views in 2 years. God works, so must we. God gives us wisdom. The same way he gave wisdom to our brothers and sisters in the past. Someone has to keep Gods' true and loving legacy. Until the Judgement Day. God bless you brothers and sisters. We are here for a reason. If there's is something you do not understand, ask. "Whoever asks, receives." Please, give me your thoughts.
I am the Lord thy God! Thou shalt have no other Gods but me! Thou shalt not take the Name of the Lord thy God in vain! Thou shalt keep the Sabbath Day holy! Thou shalt honor father and mother! Thou shalt not kill! Thou shalt not commit adultery! Thou shalt not steal! Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor! Do not let thyself lust after thy neighbor’s wife! Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s house, nor his farm, nor his cattle, nor anything that is his!
Whether you think or know there is no God the same button in your choice would be made either by knowing or thinking. So I don't care if you know or think there is no God because either way you think either, think and know or think alone you still think.
All conscious living entities find their limited existential origins in the unlimited, conscious, living Supreme Person, God, so there can be no question of any type of regret at having parted ways with any limited living entity, when one is in God's personal presence. Similarly, how could one possibly miss a single photon of sunlight while basking in the brilliantly effulgent presence of the sun itself? In addition, the scriptures state that God takes special care to redeem all the family members of pure devotees, seven generations into the future, and seven generations into the past, so the conclusion is that no pure devotee of the Lord is ever subjected to missing loved ones and family members when in the eternal presence of God.
It’s easy to change if it’s not about money. Hell are within many color like a walking zombie. These are without a soul that has pass down to your kids. Remember ethics are important if it’s not its lifestyle just curious still has its newborn estate like a gentlemen. Not swim amongst Indians lifestyle are its ground.❤
The success of the speaker is largely due to his sticking to the basics of the gospel. That is wonderful. If the speaker at any time decides to defend the Trinity, for example, that will be his demise. His reputation as a successful defender will fall to the ground. Keep an eye on this!
I just recently watched the video where Cliff discussed the trinity and he did not lose in that discussion either. He was not left speechless or caught off guard because he's honest. He explained it to the best of his ability and how he sees it. That is the goal. The goal is not to catch someone up in a trick. The goal is to express the truth to them in love. At least, the truth as it is most obviously perceived when it appeals to conscience, humanity and Christ..
@@tdhills Please give me the site for that video. I am a defender of the first century gospel. The Trinity was never a part of the early church! It was the Greek fathers of the second and third centuries who taught this pagan doctrine. In the fourth century these fathers along with others aligned themselves with Rome and Constantine. The rest is history. Again, please give me the address to that video, so that I can see for myself. Thank you.
An atheist is a person who does not believe in the existence of gods. Period. This position describes all atheists, where some may claim that gods do not exist and some claim they simply lack the belief. The atheist position is by definition NOT based in the positive claim that gods do not exist.
At about 8:20 Cliffe says Jesus is either lying or he's making a truth claim. There is, I think , a more plausible 3rd option. perhaps these stories written about Jesus were fanciful writings from unknown authors.
Nope. There is more evidence for the life of Jesus, and from non-Jewish sources, than other historical figures. Easy to just make a statement without doing research.
Brucev7 Hi Bruce, I'm certainly no scholar, I just have a casual interest in the claims of Jesus. You mentioned evidence of him, esp from non jewish sources, who are you referring to out of interest?
bonnie43uk It is very interesting to read what non-Jews, what Romans wrote about Jesus the Christ. Cliffe speaks of this in videos, "A Supernatural Jesus", #'s-2309, and 2612. Three good books, I think one or more of the videos used to be on YT, Lee Strobel's books, "Case for Christ...Faith.....a Creator." Lee was an atheist previously.
The authors of the four Gospels and their concomitant works are well-known and well-documented, and only the lower animal and the illiterate fail to understand this clear historical fact.
***** Heh, maybe you were referring to me, I'd not come across the word *concomitant* before, that's another word to add to my vocabulary, Thanks :-). One point though 1GodOnlyOne, you say the authors of the four Gospels are well known, from what I've gleaned it would seem these 4 authors were unknown, the names of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were added to these works later.
Saying it with your mouth doesn't mean anything, you have to do the truth and walk after the commandments of GOD. FAITH and BELIEVE are the same word in the Greek.
Hello. I am an atheist. I define atheism as suspending acknowledgement of the existence of gods until sufficient evidence can be presented. My position is that *_I have no good reason to acknowledge the existence of gods._* And here is the evidence as to why I currently hold to such a position. 1. I personally have never observed a god. 2. I have never encountered a person whom has claimed to have observed a god. 3. I know of no accounts of persons claiming to have observed a god that were willing or able to demonstrate or verify their observation for authenticity, accuracy, or validity. 4. I have never been presented a valid logical argument which also employed sound premises that lead deductively to a conclusion that a god(s) exists. 5. Of the 46 logical syllogisms I have encountered arguing for the existence of a god(s), I have found all to contain multiple fallacious or unsubstantiated premises. 6. I have never observed a phenomenon in which the existence of a god was a necessary antecedent for the known or probable explanation for the causation of that phenomenon. 7. Several proposed (and generally accepted) explanations for observable phenomena that were previously based on the agency of a god(s), have subsequently been replaced with rational, natural explanations, each substantiated with evidence that excluded the agency of a god(s). I have never encountered _vice versa._ 8. I have never experienced the presence of a god through intercession of angels, divine revelation, the miraculous act of divinity, or any occurrence of a supernatural event. 9. Every phenomena that I have ever observed has *_emerged_* from necessary and sufficient antecedents over time without exception. In other words, I have never observed a phenomenon (entity, process, object, event, process, substance, system, or being) that was created _ex nihilo_ - that is instantaneously came into existence by the solitary volition of a deity. 10. All claims of a supernatural or divine nature that I have encountered have either been refuted to my satisfaction, or do not present as falsifiable. ALL of these facts lead me to the only rational conclusion that concurs with the realities I have been presented - and that is the fact that there is *_no good reason_* for me to acknowledge the existence of a god. I have heard often that atheism is the denial of the Abrahamic god. But denial is the active rejection of a substantiated fact once credible evidence has been presented. Atheism is simply withholding such acknowledgement until sufficient credible evidence is introduced. *_It is natural, rational, and prudent to be skeptical of unsubstatiated claims, especially extraordinary ones._* I welcome any cordial response. Peace.
Okay theo what are you living for? Are nazi getting the last say on millions of lives if so are they wrong? Is everything relative? What do you follow today? Have you heard of the prophecies in the bible in the book of daniel it shows roman history entirely up to now pin point also since this is it just a "coincidence" that a book in 600bc guess roman history without a divine being want to learn about read the book of daniel still confused watch Babylon to America. Then after you got the prophecy tell me is it just a coincidence. Or is it backing the proof of god. You can be a skeptic but if your atheists understand morality is relative and the nazi got the last say on millions of jew lives. Peace I hope that is substantial evidence also life does not come from non life, rational does not come from irrational. Also, look up how complex a single human cell then if you can look at all these designs and rational life existing and say it was accident live it out just god the only will hold all action in judgment. Btw if your holding to atheism because you want to live lawless without self control like cheat and lie and etc.. then dont say you don't because of a lack of evidence. Love you hopefully I said these things correctly.
Btw 5200 scripture manuscripts is the most for any historical book just saying we can be sure that bible is the same written thousands of years ago see yah
@@bhumble8429 Why are you bringing up Nazis? And no. Not everything is relative. For example, the Nazi party has no relation to my position on atheism as discussed in my original post.
@@bhumble8429 I can see the rest of your comment is no different from the tripe before. Have a wonderful weekend. And don't forget to take your meds! Peace.
Chills! The kid literally had no response, no defense. He was left speechless! This by far is my favorite video on this channel.
These kids don't have any real debating experience or have dealt with a lot of philosophical discussions like Cliffe has. That does not mean the kid is wrong and should convert. Cliffe is a very good communicator and excellent in rhetoric. Unfortunately for him when he debated Matt Dillahunty who is just as good, Cliffe had to constantly pivot and appeal to emotions. You really should watch that debate with an open mind that is to say if you care about reason or what makes sense rather than the ideal.
@@hatersgotohell627 Matt Dillahunty pivots, strawmans, and appeals to emotions far too much for me to like his debating style.
@Marlena , I experienced it differently. The kid seemed to speak just fine. Quite articulate in fact. I didn't sense any speechlessness. It was a good discussion by two intelligent people. I think Cliffe had good answers for him but it wasn't some sort of intellectual slaughter. I like this video a lot as well.
@@darkeen42 Are you a true born again Christian?
@@hatersgotohell627 Are you a true born again Christian?
This was good, so good.
Facts
Why ?
@@jasonnoble7814 cause it was noble 😏
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Human sacrifice is not noble 😆
Yes great point at the end the lil pause had that guy thinking deep.
Great to see a Christian living out what he is called to do.
Amen. Praise Yeshua
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The silence and Cliffe's look at 21:08-21:15 is so powerful.
And the truth shall set you free indeed! ✝
@@TreenighetMaranata and it's etched into the limestone above them on the UT Tower.
Starting at 17:30, I love that portion where he talks about how there isn't absolute certainty with anything in life. It's not realistic to live with 2+2=4 certainty with all of our decisions. There is never a guarantee for anything. I love how he brought marriage and all of his examples to relay his point. Cliffe is a word artist.
Praise God for His preservation of the Word and how more evidence points to God being the truth as time goes on. It's beautiful and brings me to tears on how people don't see it.
Everyone was silent and actively listening at the end, I feel like you got the message through to people finally.
No question that he planted some seeds that day. The sad part is, some of them may go home and continue their lives rejecting him still.
Cliffe did all that he could do, now when we cant get people to Christ, we need to pray for them
What message?
That lying for Jesus is righteous?
Watched this on the tv. But I had to come back on here to comment that this was indeed one of the best videos. That kid was inspiring as well. Hope he finds the truth. Greetings from India
God bless you my friend.
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@@darkeen42 Who defines progress? What is progress?
@@darkeen42 Morally?
Wheee Donyou get off with Morality? Who defines morality for you? You don't have an absolute definition of morality. Your truth is trying to find a fault in something else without realising that you have no basis for truth yourself. Your arguments are bankrupt.
@@darkeen42 The effects of my action define morality? Bravo to you. I rest my case.
You can watch him on TV!?
Cliffe you are so inspiring to me !!! Thank you for being Awesome !
Fantastic. Kudos to the young man. He was lost and now he is found. He won't forget that day.
The more emotional debate I've ever seen since I follow you. At the end I was holding back my tears. God bless your life Cliff, your son, your family and your ministry! You've been a light for our generation 🥹👏 Greetings from Colombia 🇨🇴
Hats off to the fella. He's asking all the right questions, thinking critically about what he's seeing. Bravo.
The problem with this young man was he shouldn't put all of his world view, and faith into his religion, instead Jesus Christ alone, that was his break down. Being a Christian, is not about being religious, it's about a relationship with God, through Jesus Christ!!!
Your channel is very underrated. I am glad I found it!
Who said his channel is underrated?
Pastor Cliff, thank you for your Devotion and Ministry and your Joyful heart for The Sovereign father and Lord Jesus Christ and The Holy Spirit :) Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Amen
That was the best discussion I think I have watched on your channel Cliff, well done and good explanation
I wasted some of my life but I never left my faith in Jesus. I will be 58 in August and disabled medically and physically but I just keep on going and people ask me how. You trust in the Lord and you live knowing that there is something around the next corner for you or you give up and die and that is not how I want to die I want to live as long as I can! I have put my life in Jesus hands since I was a child.
I've learn much over the last fifteenth years about theology but never having a one on one with a sceptic, thanks for showing me the way!!!!!!! Shabbat Shalom!!!!
Woooow that was engaging Cliffe...I really needed this today..
Thank you so much.... c:
this man is God sent
13:00 Breaks him down, with the Truth.
Once again, it is a slam-dunk!
Wow awesome video. If I ever meet Cliffe in person I would give him a hug and thank him.
@@darkeen42 what videos are you referring too?
@@darkeen42 I saw this video and I don't see any lies given. By Cliffe and he doesnt look like a retard. If you disagree with him that's one thing but you sound like a sad hater 🤣. Secondly the gospel of Mark was not anonymous for hundreds of years. Many (and I mean many) new testament scholars would agree with me. Nice try though Michael.
Thank GOD ( I AM THAT I AM ) in the name of JESUS!!!
Whey do you say this. Whey not thank Smurfs or fairies , or clowns.
Cliffe u are inspiring to me brother. God bless you as you try to win over many souls for the kingdom of God. Its a hard road but Christ is with you. Ty for your uploads
Amen!
Kliff, brother in JESUS! Only The living GOD can create an INSPIRATIONAL Man like you and your son. May GOD CONTINUE giving you his wisdom greater then yesterday to CONTINUE touching us to the end. "I have started a good thing in you,and it will be finished when JESUS returns "( paraphrasing for the respect of the word of God).
Cliffe, spittin' the straight facts once again. 👊
The Jesus story is the greatest story ever written by non witnesses after the fact.
I'm still waiting after two thousand years for Jesus to make good on his promise to come back in glory and rapture me up into his magic kingdom in the clouds.
The gospels are eye witness accounts. The writer interviewed the disciples that actually traveled with Jesus for three years watching Him heal people and change lived and they listened to His teachings and realized Jesus was God incarnate. It’s really hypocritical to down play the eye witnesses to Jesus Christ but rely on eye witness accounts during trials in the courts. If you witnessed a car accident you would be bursting at the seams to give your eye witness account. Why should we really on your testimony but when it comes to Jesus you can’t believe the eye witness accounts of the disciples, hmmm how hypocritical.
I can't wait to watch this one! you keep me strong in my faith, plus I love seeing atheists get a taste of reality.
first off, as a atheist we have reality you do not.
which is?
mcmcmorris which is?
Mazen Ghani(have not been on my account in a while(sorry for a late reply)) this was ment for people who get mad at atheists(for just not believing) it was not meant for a random Christian.
when you say( atheists get a taste of reality) can you give me hardcore evidence, for your religion, and then we can play ping pong( go back and forth until one loses)
I hope more such preachers will be shown to different nations to introduce Jesus to all humanity , Goa India
This one was so powerful. I really believe Cliffe saved this young man. So powerful at the end Cliffe had everyone's attention. Everyone was locked in.
Cliff's opening statement: Very profound!
Thank you kindly and bless your household sir 🙏
Love love love this video!! One of Cliffe's best!
Sometimes I ask myself y this job but his glory gives only goodness 😊
Well put Cliffe!!....the part that talks about what we as humans are really living for?.....is it Wealth, Possession or the Holy Spirit of God? Very powerful!
Hallelujah! Glory to God 👍👏🔥
best video from Cliffe that I've seen, stunning and powerful thankyou
Amazing!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤
Its amazing how Cliff uses reason to convince people. "What is the preponderance of evidence that what you are living for is true?"
Loving these videos. They really help me understand God better❤
Best Cliff video iv seen to this day
Absolutely loved this!!!❤💯
Incredible!
That pause at the end though. I've never seen anyone's mind being changed over 100's of these videos of staunch atheists, but this guy is the closest I've seen. 🔥🙏
I would love to see y'all in Birmingham Alabama!
We are so uncertain about life to hang our life on uncertainties. That's why we have our own life to live and our own choices to make... Whether Christianity or Atheism. However we have our rational mind and the choice to take a leap of faith and call out to God. We only have to do it once and as much ad we are tempted to not do so based on our own ego the thing is... We can't help ourselves and expect to one true God helps us... No one else will.
The look towards the end is wild he just knew he got through to him
Love all your show need more
Wow. This was the best one yet.
This was great! Thank🙏🏽 you sir
Just love this video
Superb
It should be stated that there is no such thing as an agnostic-atheist, you cannot know and not know at the same that's a contradiction. You're either an atheist, agnostic or theist, there are no hyphenated titles for all three.
+jrc99us I can't count the number of times atheists have tried to redefine atheism to agnosticism to shift the burden of proof. Sir/Madam, you are not an atheist, you are an agnostic.
If they tell me 'There's not enough evidence to support theism,' What I hear is, "Based on what we don't know, I am convinced that there is no God" or " Even though I don't know all, I know enough to know that there is no all-knowing God."
Atheists say, "I know there is no God" x=0
Agnostics say, "I don't know if there is no God" x=?
Theists say, "I know there is a God" x=>1
Monotheists say, "I know there is one God." x=1
Polytheists say, "I know there are many gods." x>1
simiteen 2004
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'Lack of belief' is recognized as skepticism. Which falls under agnosticism.
Strong agnosticism says, "I don't know if God exists, but it's unlikely."
Weak agnosticism says, "I don't know if God exists, but it's possible."
Strong atheism says, "God doesn't exist." or "There is no God." (Anti-theism says,"Religion should die!")
Weak atheism is basically agnosticism.
"gnostic - atheist - Knowing is possible, and since we don't know yet, no belief in a god."
This is inconsistent w/ claims and behaviors made by atheists
Do you believe God exists?
A. Yes (Theism)
B. No. (Atheism)
C. I Don't Know/Unsure (Agnosticism)
How many gods exist?
A. x>1 (Polytheism)
B. 1 (Monotheism)
C. 0 (Atheism)
D. IDK/Unsure (Agnosticism)
*****"Atheism- late 16th century: from French athéisme, from Greek atheos, from a- ‘without’ + theos ‘god.’
A = w/o
Theism = God(s)
An atheist is someone w/o a god.
"Agnostic-mid 19th century: from a-1 ‘not’ + gnostic."
"Gnostic-late 16th century (as a noun): via ecclesiastical Latin from Greek gnōstikos, from gnōstos ‘known’ (related to gignōskein ‘know’).
1.
of or relating to knowledge, especially esoteric mystical knowledge."
A = not
Gnosticism = to know (in relation to the supernatural)
An agnostic is someone who doesn't/can't know the nature of the supernatural.
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And yet, most of they comments I read or the atheists I hear claim that there is no God, that God is a myth/delusion, that only idiots believe in God, and slander and lies and more.
Does atheism become anti-theism when the person attacks theism? Or makes an objective claim?
Congratulations on 100K cliff in Stuart
This was posted in 2014. Why aren't students of 2019 this intellectual and reasoning? What happened?
Wow this was beautiful
This was good
Eternal life is more than just a length of time. The Bible states, eternal life is knowing God, the father and Jesus Christ and what a wonderful thing that will be.
checkmate!!!
Not checkmate friend.... it’s not us versus them. Our fight is not against flesh and blood. God is calling this young man & we are to love him into His family
This was a good one, my only complaint was his exaggeration of the manuscript variance. I would have said slight/insignificant variance of less than 5% and mentioned that it does not impact core statements at all.
Its not the things I don't understand in the Bible that scare me, its the things that I do understand that scare me.
woww
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👍👍👍 o.g good
Wow.
@Pastor Cliffe would like to know about your experience of meeting Jesus
"Used to be a Mormon" this guy is asking good questions.
If you would only BELIEVE!
The dude with the duct tape on his shirt was cool. I think he might like The Divine Conspiracy by Dallas Willard.
Does anybody have any information or links on the debate between bart and Cliff I can't find nothing
I'm very interested in this debate myself.
Bhagavad-gita does not recommend nirvana as the ultimate goal, no. Certain schools of Buddhism recommend nirvana as the ultimate goal, but not all of them do.
my revolation from God. On the evening of Nov. 1st 2023 just under a month after Israel was attacked, The angel of the Lord came upon me. My arms stretched apart, then together in prayer. I then fell to my knees and the glory of the Lord shone round about me. Immediately I was in the spirit: i first went through a cloud and after revealed a lot of eyes who's color was like unto the day sky. Like the beast and seraphim of Ezekiel which were round about the Throne. Before the Throne was a sea of glass like unto crystal, and He that sat upon the Throne was a great light like unto the sun but vastly brighter, and a rainbow shown round about the Throne. That great light is God. I began to plea, please take me Lord, please take me. My fiancee Emily heard a thud from the bedroom above the kitchen which alarmed her. She came downstairs to the livingroom adjacent to the kitchen which had a blanket covering the door. She could her me speaking in a language that wasn't like any known to man. For he that speaketh in a unknown tounge speaketh not to men but unto God. She then moved the blanket to reveal me on my knees face down with my feet crossed. In that same moments my vision ended. She hid herself behind the blanket, I then approached her and embraced her and told her what I had just witnessed.2023 just under a month after Israel was attacked, The angel of the Lord came upon me. My arms stretched apart, then together in prayer. I then fell to my knees and the glory of the Lord shone round about me. Immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold four beast, which were full of eyes who's color was like unto the day sky. Like the beast of Ezekiel which were round about the Throne. Before the Throne was a sea of glass like unto crystal, and He that sat upon the Throne was a great light like unto the sun but vastly brighter, and a rainbow shown round about the Throne. That great light is God, for God is light in absence of darkness. I began to plea, please take me Lord, please take me. My fiancee Emily heard a thud from the bedroom above the kitchen which alarmed her. She came downstairs to the livingroom adjacent to the kitchen which had a blanket covering the door. She could here me speaking in a language that wasn't like any known to man. (For he that speaketh in a unknown tounge speaketh not to men but unto God). She then moved the blanket to reveal me on my knees face down with my feet crossed. In that same moments my vision ended. She hid herself behind the blanket, I then approached her and embraced her and told her what I had just witnessed.
Can someone just give me the summary.
I gotta 1st of all stop and appreciate the amount of time spent with God, the amount of study & research pastor Cliffe does in order to do what he does. He dropped d BOOM! on dat last point wen he told him dat he's being a hypocrite or intellectually dishonest seeking a 2+2 evidence to believe in d God of scripture when he knows fully well that he believes in s/thing dat doesn't fulfill d 2+2 evidence he's demanding from d God of scripture.
How does allowing an effigy to be gruesomely murdered atone the digressions of others?
***** Do you really need an explanation for the absurdity of scapegoating? Do you think holding innocent being(s) responsible for the punishment (or atonement) of the guilty being(s) is moral?
Just imagine giving criminals convicted of a capital offense the option to have someone else stand in for their punishment. Several of histories' more charismatic psychopaths had plenty of brainwashed followers willing to take the penalty of their hero/criminal.
Let's go from the theoretical to the real world. If the mass murderer's victims were your friends or family members....NOW how do you about an innocent being dying for that crime? Meanwhile, the guilty party is not only still alive, they are absolved and scot-free.
There is NO CONTEXT that makes scapegoating just. You disagree? Please provide an answer to my original question: How does the murder of the innocent take away the crimes of the guilty?
Prove it.
LeggoMyLamb You made a truth claim, you failed to provide any evidence to support your truth claim, and I called you on it. I am very satisfied with how this conversation has unfolded, and I now bid you adieu -- forever -- both of us knowing full well that your silly comment has been refuted.
You are free to continue writing, but since I won't read any more of your ignorant tripe, you should be aware that you'll be talking to yourself.
***** Oh you'll be back; you won't be able to help yourself. Talk about a truth claim: have you looked at your username lately?
***** Actually, God doesn't have to be fair. He has stacked the odds in *our* favor, which is unfair to him.
This kid looks like Kevin from home alone brother
Why do people separate faith and evidence?
I find it really unfortunate to say it lightly the pain and scars religions like mormonism and JW's leave on people, some never make it to the real Jesus in their life because if it. I hope God has mercy on them.
Brothers and sisters. Ask yourselves why are you here, on this channel. 6 years 34k views. I believe that God chose 34k people who viewed this to do the same as Cliff. There are videos with 5m views in 2 years. God works, so must we. God gives us wisdom. The same way he gave wisdom to our brothers and sisters in the past. Someone has to keep Gods' true and loving legacy. Until the Judgement Day. God bless you brothers and sisters. We are here for a reason. If there's is something you do not understand, ask. "Whoever asks, receives."
Please, give me your thoughts.
I am the Lord thy God! Thou shalt have no other Gods but me!
Thou shalt not take the Name of the Lord thy God in vain!
Thou shalt keep the Sabbath Day holy!
Thou shalt honor father and mother!
Thou shalt not kill!
Thou shalt not commit adultery!
Thou shalt not steal!
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor!
Do not let thyself lust after thy neighbor’s wife!
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s house, nor his farm, nor his cattle, nor anything that is his!
Whether you think or know there is no God the same button in your choice would be made either by knowing or thinking. So I don't care if you know or think there is no God because either way you think either, think and know or think alone you still think.
All conscious living entities find their limited existential origins in the unlimited, conscious, living Supreme Person, God, so there can be no question of any type of regret at having parted ways with any limited living entity, when one is in God's personal presence.
Similarly, how could one possibly miss a single photon of sunlight while basking in the brilliantly effulgent presence of the sun itself?
In addition, the scriptures state that God takes special care to redeem all the family members of pure devotees, seven generations into the future, and seven generations into the past, so the conclusion is that no pure devotee of the Lord is ever subjected to missing loved ones and family members when in the eternal presence of God.
It’s easy to change if it’s not about money. Hell are within many color like a walking zombie. These are without a soul that has pass down to your kids. Remember ethics are important if it’s not its lifestyle just curious still has its newborn estate like a gentlemen. Not swim amongst Indians lifestyle are its ground.❤
The success of the speaker is largely due to his sticking to the basics of the gospel. That is wonderful. If the speaker at any time decides to defend the Trinity, for example, that will be his demise. His reputation as a successful defender will fall to the ground. Keep an eye on this!
I just recently watched the video where Cliff discussed the trinity and he did not lose in that discussion either. He was not left speechless or caught off guard because he's honest. He explained it to the best of his ability and how he sees it. That is the goal. The goal is not to catch someone up in a trick. The goal is to express the truth to them in love. At least, the truth as it is most obviously perceived when it appeals to conscience, humanity and Christ..
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Please give me the site for that video. I am a defender of the first century gospel. The Trinity was never a part of the early church! It was the Greek fathers of the second and third centuries who taught this pagan doctrine. In the fourth century these fathers along with others aligned themselves with Rome and Constantine. The rest is history.
Again, please give me the address to that video, so that I can see for myself. Thank you.
He was speechless
"Why jesus" is as usefull as asking "Why Frodo"
American dream feels like a nightmare only possible to make it with God
An atheist is a person who does not believe in the existence of gods. Period. This position describes all atheists, where some may claim that gods do not exist and some claim they simply lack the belief.
The atheist position is by definition NOT based in the positive claim that gods do not exist.
At about 8:20 Cliffe says Jesus is either lying or he's making a truth claim. There is, I think , a more plausible 3rd option. perhaps these stories written about Jesus were fanciful writings from unknown authors.
Nope. There is more evidence for the life of Jesus, and from non-Jewish sources, than other historical figures. Easy to just make a statement without doing research.
Brucev7 Hi Bruce, I'm certainly no scholar, I just have a casual interest in the claims of Jesus. You mentioned evidence of him, esp from non jewish sources, who are you referring to out of interest?
bonnie43uk
It is very interesting to read what non-Jews, what Romans wrote about Jesus the Christ. Cliffe speaks of this in videos, "A Supernatural Jesus", #'s-2309, and 2612. Three good books, I think one or more of the videos used to be on YT, Lee Strobel's books, "Case for Christ...Faith.....a Creator." Lee was an atheist previously.
The authors of the four Gospels and their concomitant works are well-known and well-documented, and only the lower animal and the illiterate fail to understand this clear historical fact.
***** Heh, maybe you were referring to me, I'd not come across the word *concomitant* before, that's another word to add to my vocabulary, Thanks :-). One point though 1GodOnlyOne, you say the authors of the four Gospels are well known, from what I've gleaned it would seem these 4 authors were unknown, the names of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were added to these works later.
damn...
Mark 1:14
Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,
Saying it with your mouth doesn't mean anything, you have to do the truth and walk after the commandments of GOD. FAITH and BELIEVE are the same word in the Greek.
Read "The Right Approach" by Inam ul haq available on Amazon and be enlightened
2 plus 2 is 22 lol
Jesus was intolerant. Jesus taught us to judge without being judgmental.
Show the verse
"Hindu" is an ethno-geographic designation, not a truth claim.
the biggest question is why does the first dude have duct tape on his shirt?
Hello. I am an atheist. I define atheism as suspending acknowledgement of the existence of gods until sufficient evidence can be presented. My position is that *_I have no good reason to acknowledge the existence of gods._*
And here is the evidence as to why I currently hold to such a position.
1. I personally have never observed a god.
2. I have never encountered a person whom has claimed to have observed a god.
3. I know of no accounts of persons claiming to have observed a god that were willing or able to demonstrate or verify their observation for authenticity, accuracy, or validity.
4. I have never been presented a valid logical argument which also employed sound premises that lead deductively to a conclusion that a god(s) exists.
5. Of the 46 logical syllogisms I have encountered arguing for the existence of a god(s), I have found all to contain multiple fallacious or unsubstantiated premises.
6. I have never observed a phenomenon in which the existence of a god was a necessary antecedent for the known or probable explanation for the causation of that phenomenon.
7. Several proposed (and generally accepted) explanations for observable phenomena that were previously based on the agency of a god(s), have subsequently been replaced with rational, natural explanations, each substantiated with evidence that excluded the agency of a god(s). I have never encountered _vice versa._
8. I have never experienced the presence of a god through intercession of angels, divine revelation, the miraculous act of divinity, or any occurrence of a supernatural event.
9. Every phenomena that I have ever observed has *_emerged_* from necessary and sufficient antecedents over time without exception. In other words, I have never observed a phenomenon (entity, process, object, event, process, substance, system, or being) that was created _ex nihilo_ - that is instantaneously came into existence by the solitary volition of a deity.
10. All claims of a supernatural or divine nature that I have encountered have either been refuted to my satisfaction, or do not present as falsifiable.
ALL of these facts lead me to the only rational conclusion that concurs with the realities I have been presented - and that is the fact that there is *_no good reason_* for me to acknowledge the existence of a god.
I have heard often that atheism is the denial of the Abrahamic god. But denial is the active rejection of a substantiated fact once credible evidence has been presented. Atheism is simply withholding such acknowledgement until sufficient credible evidence is introduced. *_It is natural, rational, and prudent to be skeptical of unsubstatiated claims, especially extraordinary ones._*
I welcome any cordial response. Peace.
Okay theo what are you living for? Are nazi getting the last say on millions of lives if so are they wrong? Is everything relative? What do you follow today? Have you heard of the prophecies in the bible in the book of daniel it shows roman history entirely up to now pin point also since this is it just a "coincidence" that a book in 600bc guess roman history without a divine being want to learn about read the book of daniel still confused watch Babylon to America. Then after you got the prophecy tell me is it just a coincidence. Or is it backing the proof of god. You can be a skeptic but if your atheists understand morality is relative and the nazi got the last say on millions of jew lives.
Peace I hope that is substantial evidence also life does not come from non life, rational does not come from irrational. Also, look up how complex a single human cell then if you can look at all these designs and rational life existing and say it was accident live it out just god the only will hold all action in judgment. Btw if your holding to atheism because you want to live lawless without self control like cheat and lie and etc.. then dont say you don't because of a lack of evidence.
Love you hopefully I said these things correctly.
Btw 5200 scripture manuscripts is the most for any historical book just saying we can be sure that bible is the same written thousands of years ago see yah
@@bhumble8429 What am I living for? The _only_ other option is _not_ living. Color me a lunatic, but let's just say I _prefer_ to live.
@@bhumble8429 Why are you bringing up Nazis? And no. Not everything is relative. For example, the Nazi party has no relation to my position on atheism as discussed in my original post.
@@bhumble8429 I can see the rest of your comment is no different from the tripe before. Have a wonderful weekend. And don't forget to take your meds! Peace.
Chris call me when you can