Give Me an Answer -
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ก.ย. 2014
- Cliffe Knechtle has a great conversation with college students at a campus in the southwest US.
The "Give Me An Answer" ministry began as an outgrowth of the dialogues Cliffe Knechtle has had with students on various university campuses throughout the United States. These universities include the University of Maine, Harvard, MIT, University of Florida, University of Texas, University of Wisconsin, University of Minnesota, University of California Los Angeles, University of California San Diego, Berkeley, Stanford, University of Hawaii and the University of Washington. Cliffe spoke on these campuses in front of the Student Union or Library at noon for five to ten minutes. At the close of his initial remarks, he'd open up the time for questions and answers, which usually turned into a two to four hour dialogue with students. His crowd size ranged from 25 - 500 students at a time, and between classes, new students would join the discussion. This is an extremely effective way to reach a large number of university students with the Gospel of Christ.
Chills! The kid literally had no response, no defense. He was left speechless! This by far is my favorite video on this channel.
These kids don't have any real debating experience or have dealt with a lot of philosophical discussions like Cliffe has. That does not mean the kid is wrong and should convert. Cliffe is a very good communicator and excellent in rhetoric. Unfortunately for him when he debated Matt Dillahunty who is just as good, Cliffe had to constantly pivot and appeal to emotions. You really should watch that debate with an open mind that is to say if you care about reason or what makes sense rather than the ideal.
@@hatersgotohell627 Matt Dillahunty pivots, strawmans, and appeals to emotions far too much for me to like his debating style.
@Marlena , I experienced it differently. The kid seemed to speak just fine. Quite articulate in fact. I didn't sense any speechlessness. It was a good discussion by two intelligent people. I think Cliffe had good answers for him but it wasn't some sort of intellectual slaughter. I like this video a lot as well.
@@darkeen42 Are you a true born again Christian?
@@hatersgotohell627 Are you a true born again Christian?
Great to see a Christian living out what he is called to do.
Amen. Praise Yeshua
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The silence and Cliffe's look at 21:08-21:15 is so powerful.
And the truth shall set you free indeed! ✝
@@TreenighetMaranata and it's etched into the limestone above them on the UT Tower.
This was good, so good.
Facts
Why ?
@@jasonnoble7814 cause it was noble 😏
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Human sacrifice is not noble 😆
Yes great point at the end the lil pause had that guy thinking deep.
Starting at 17:30, I love that portion where he talks about how there isn't absolute certainty with anything in life. It's not realistic to live with 2+2=4 certainty with all of our decisions. There is never a guarantee for anything. I love how he brought marriage and all of his examples to relay his point. Cliffe is a word artist.
Praise God for His preservation of the Word and how more evidence points to God being the truth as time goes on. It's beautiful and brings me to tears on how people don't see it.
Everyone was silent and actively listening at the end, I feel like you got the message through to people finally.
No question that he planted some seeds that day. The sad part is, some of them may go home and continue their lives rejecting him still.
Cliffe did all that he could do, now when we cant get people to Christ, we need to pray for them
Watched this on the tv. But I had to come back on here to comment that this was indeed one of the best videos. That kid was inspiring as well. Hope he finds the truth. Greetings from India
God bless you my friend.
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@@darkeen42 Who defines progress? What is progress?
@@darkeen42 Morally?
Wheee Donyou get off with Morality? Who defines morality for you? You don't have an absolute definition of morality. Your truth is trying to find a fault in something else without realising that you have no basis for truth yourself. Your arguments are bankrupt.
@@darkeen42 The effects of my action define morality? Bravo to you. I rest my case.
You can watch him on TV!?
Cliff shutting it down!! :D
Cliffe you are so inspiring to me !!! Thank you for being Awesome !
Your channel is very underrated. I am glad I found it!
Who said his channel is underrated?
Hats off to the fella. He's asking all the right questions, thinking critically about what he's seeing. Bravo.
this man is God sent
Woooow that was engaging Cliffe...I really needed this today..
Thank you so much.... c:
Fantastic. Kudos to the young man. He was lost and now he is found. He won't forget that day.
The more emotional debate I've ever seen since I follow you. At the end I was holding back my tears. God bless your life Cliff, your son, your family and your ministry! You've been a light for our generation 🥹👏 Greetings from Colombia 🇨🇴
Pastor Cliff, thank you for your Devotion and Ministry and your Joyful heart for The Sovereign father and Lord Jesus Christ and The Holy Spirit :) Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Amen
The Jesus story is the greatest story ever written by non witnesses after the fact.
I'm still waiting after two thousand years for Jesus to make good on his promise to come back in glory and rapture me up into his magic kingdom in the clouds.
The gospels are eye witness accounts. The writer interviewed the disciples that actually traveled with Jesus for three years watching Him heal people and change lived and they listened to His teachings and realized Jesus was God incarnate. It’s really hypocritical to down play the eye witnesses to Jesus Christ but rely on eye witness accounts during trials in the courts. If you witnessed a car accident you would be bursting at the seams to give your eye witness account. Why should we really on your testimony but when it comes to Jesus you can’t believe the eye witness accounts of the disciples, hmmm how hypocritical.
That was the best discussion I think I have watched on your channel Cliff, well done and good explanation
Once again, it is a slam-dunk!
I've learn much over the last fifteenth years about theology but never having a one on one with a sceptic, thanks for showing me the way!!!!!!! Shabbat Shalom!!!!
I wasted some of my life but I never left my faith in Jesus. I will be 58 in August and disabled medically and physically but I just keep on going and people ask me how. You trust in the Lord and you live knowing that there is something around the next corner for you or you give up and die and that is not how I want to die I want to live as long as I can! I have put my life in Jesus hands since I was a child.
The look towards the end is wild he just knew he got through to him
Amen!
Thank GOD ( I AM THAT I AM ) in the name of JESUS!!!
Whey do you say this. Whey not thank Smurfs or fairies , or clowns.
Wow awesome video. If I ever meet Cliffe in person I would give him a hug and thank him.
@@darkeen42 what videos are you referring too?
@@darkeen42 I saw this video and I don't see any lies given. By Cliffe and he doesnt look like a retard. If you disagree with him that's one thing but you sound like a sad hater 🤣. Secondly the gospel of Mark was not anonymous for hundreds of years. Many (and I mean many) new testament scholars would agree with me. Nice try though Michael.
Incredible!
Absolutely loved this!!!❤💯
Cliff's opening statement: Very profound!
The problem with this young man was he shouldn't put all of his world view, and faith into his religion, instead Jesus Christ alone, that was his break down. Being a Christian, is not about being religious, it's about a relationship with God, through Jesus Christ!!!
Hallelujah! Glory to God 👍👏🔥
Cliffe, spittin' the straight facts once again. 👊
Thank you kindly and bless your household sir 🙏
This was great! Thank🙏🏽 you sir
Love love love this video!! One of Cliffe's best!
Just love this video
Cliffe u are inspiring to me brother. God bless you as you try to win over many souls for the kingdom of God. Its a hard road but Christ is with you. Ty for your uploads
Wow. This was the best one yet.
best video from Cliffe that I've seen, stunning and powerful thankyou
I can't wait to watch this one! you keep me strong in my faith, plus I love seeing atheists get a taste of reality.
first off, as a atheist we have reality you do not.
which is?
mcmcmorris which is?
Mazen Ghani(have not been on my account in a while(sorry for a late reply)) this was ment for people who get mad at atheists(for just not believing) it was not meant for a random Christian.
when you say( atheists get a taste of reality) can you give me hardcore evidence, for your religion, and then we can play ping pong( go back and forth until one loses)
Love all your show need more
This one was so powerful. I really believe Cliffe saved this young man. So powerful at the end Cliffe had everyone's attention. Everyone was locked in.
Kliff, brother in JESUS! Only The living GOD can create an INSPIRATIONAL Man like you and your son. May GOD CONTINUE giving you his wisdom greater then yesterday to CONTINUE touching us to the end. "I have started a good thing in you,and it will be finished when JESUS returns "( paraphrasing for the respect of the word of God).
Best Cliff video iv seen to this day
Loving these videos. They really help me understand God better❤
Well put Cliffe!!....the part that talks about what we as humans are really living for?.....is it Wealth, Possession or the Holy Spirit of God? Very powerful!
Superb
13:00 Breaks him down, with the Truth.
Its amazing how Cliff uses reason to convince people. "What is the preponderance of evidence that what you are living for is true?"
Wow this was beautiful
woww
Wow.
This was good
Congratulations on 100K cliff in Stuart
That pause at the end though. I've never seen anyone's mind being changed over 100's of these videos of staunch atheists, but this guy is the closest I've seen. 🔥🙏
This was a good one, my only complaint was his exaggeration of the manuscript variance. I would have said slight/insignificant variance of less than 5% and mentioned that it does not impact core statements at all.
Does anybody have any information or links on the debate between bart and Cliff I can't find nothing
I'm very interested in this debate myself.
"Used to be a Mormon" this guy is asking good questions.
@Pastor Cliffe would like to know about your experience of meeting Jesus
checkmate!!!
Not checkmate friend.... it’s not us versus them. Our fight is not against flesh and blood. God is calling this young man & we are to love him into His family
If you would only BELIEVE!
👍👍👍 o.g good
This was posted in 2014. Why aren't students of 2019 this intellectual and reasoning? What happened?
The dude with the duct tape on his shirt was cool. I think he might like The Divine Conspiracy by Dallas Willard.
Eternal life is more than just a length of time. The Bible states, eternal life is knowing God, the father and Jesus Christ and what a wonderful thing that will be.
Why do people separate faith and evidence?
Can someone just give me the summary.
It should be stated that there is no such thing as an agnostic-atheist, you cannot know and not know at the same that's a contradiction. You're either an atheist, agnostic or theist, there are no hyphenated titles for all three.
+jrc99us I can't count the number of times atheists have tried to redefine atheism to agnosticism to shift the burden of proof. Sir/Madam, you are not an atheist, you are an agnostic.
If they tell me 'There's not enough evidence to support theism,' What I hear is, "Based on what we don't know, I am convinced that there is no God" or " Even though I don't know all, I know enough to know that there is no all-knowing God."
Atheists say, "I know there is no God" x=0
Agnostics say, "I don't know if there is no God" x=?
Theists say, "I know there is a God" x=>1
Monotheists say, "I know there is one God." x=1
Polytheists say, "I know there are many gods." x>1
simiteen 2004
BINGO!
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'Lack of belief' is recognized as skepticism. Which falls under agnosticism.
Strong agnosticism says, "I don't know if God exists, but it's unlikely."
Weak agnosticism says, "I don't know if God exists, but it's possible."
Strong atheism says, "God doesn't exist." or "There is no God." (Anti-theism says,"Religion should die!")
Weak atheism is basically agnosticism.
"gnostic - atheist - Knowing is possible, and since we don't know yet, no belief in a god."
This is inconsistent w/ claims and behaviors made by atheists
Do you believe God exists?
A. Yes (Theism)
B. No. (Atheism)
C. I Don't Know/Unsure (Agnosticism)
How many gods exist?
A. x>1 (Polytheism)
B. 1 (Monotheism)
C. 0 (Atheism)
D. IDK/Unsure (Agnosticism)
*****"Atheism- late 16th century: from French athéisme, from Greek atheos, from a- ‘without’ + theos ‘god.’
A = w/o
Theism = God(s)
An atheist is someone w/o a god.
"Agnostic-mid 19th century: from a-1 ‘not’ + gnostic."
"Gnostic-late 16th century (as a noun): via ecclesiastical Latin from Greek gnōstikos, from gnōstos ‘known’ (related to gignōskein ‘know’).
1.
of or relating to knowledge, especially esoteric mystical knowledge."
A = not
Gnosticism = to know (in relation to the supernatural)
An agnostic is someone who doesn't/can't know the nature of the supernatural.
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And yet, most of they comments I read or the atheists I hear claim that there is no God, that God is a myth/delusion, that only idiots believe in God, and slander and lies and more.
Does atheism become anti-theism when the person attacks theism? Or makes an objective claim?
Its not the things I don't understand in the Bible that scare me, its the things that I do understand that scare me.
damn...
Read "The Right Approach" by Inam ul haq available on Amazon and be enlightened
He was speechless
This kid looks like Kevin from home alone brother
I gotta 1st of all stop and appreciate the amount of time spent with God, the amount of study & research pastor Cliffe does in order to do what he does. He dropped d BOOM! on dat last point wen he told him dat he's being a hypocrite or intellectually dishonest seeking a 2+2 evidence to believe in d God of scripture when he knows fully well that he believes in s/thing dat doesn't fulfill d 2+2 evidence he's demanding from d God of scripture.
Whether you think or know there is no God the same button in your choice would be made either by knowing or thinking. So I don't care if you know or think there is no God because either way you think either, think and know or think alone you still think.
How does allowing an effigy to be gruesomely murdered atone the digressions of others?
***** Do you really need an explanation for the absurdity of scapegoating? Do you think holding innocent being(s) responsible for the punishment (or atonement) of the guilty being(s) is moral?
Just imagine giving criminals convicted of a capital offense the option to have someone else stand in for their punishment. Several of histories' more charismatic psychopaths had plenty of brainwashed followers willing to take the penalty of their hero/criminal.
Let's go from the theoretical to the real world. If the mass murderer's victims were your friends or family members....NOW how do you about an innocent being dying for that crime? Meanwhile, the guilty party is not only still alive, they are absolved and scot-free.
There is NO CONTEXT that makes scapegoating just. You disagree? Please provide an answer to my original question: How does the murder of the innocent take away the crimes of the guilty?
Prove it.
LeggoMyLamb You made a truth claim, you failed to provide any evidence to support your truth claim, and I called you on it. I am very satisfied with how this conversation has unfolded, and I now bid you adieu -- forever -- both of us knowing full well that your silly comment has been refuted.
You are free to continue writing, but since I won't read any more of your ignorant tripe, you should be aware that you'll be talking to yourself.
***** Oh you'll be back; you won't be able to help yourself. Talk about a truth claim: have you looked at your username lately?
***** Actually, God doesn't have to be fair. He has stacked the odds in *our* favor, which is unfair to him.
My friends those I phileo are those the do the will of the Father.
It’s easy to change if it’s not about money. Hell are within many color like a walking zombie. These are without a soul that has pass down to your kids. Remember ethics are important if it’s not its lifestyle just curious still has its newborn estate like a gentlemen. Not swim amongst Indians lifestyle are its ground.❤
I am the Lord thy God! Thou shalt have no other Gods but me!
Thou shalt not take the Name of the Lord thy God in vain!
Thou shalt keep the Sabbath Day holy!
Thou shalt honor father and mother!
Thou shalt not kill!
Thou shalt not commit adultery!
Thou shalt not steal!
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor!
Do not let thyself lust after thy neighbor’s wife!
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s house, nor his farm, nor his cattle, nor anything that is his!
Bhagavad-gita does not recommend nirvana as the ultimate goal, no. Certain schools of Buddhism recommend nirvana as the ultimate goal, but not all of them do.
All conscious living entities find their limited existential origins in the unlimited, conscious, living Supreme Person, God, so there can be no question of any type of regret at having parted ways with any limited living entity, when one is in God's personal presence.
Similarly, how could one possibly miss a single photon of sunlight while basking in the brilliantly effulgent presence of the sun itself?
In addition, the scriptures state that God takes special care to redeem all the family members of pure devotees, seven generations into the future, and seven generations into the past, so the conclusion is that no pure devotee of the Lord is ever subjected to missing loved ones and family members when in the eternal presence of God.
Chris call me when you can
I find it really unfortunate to say it lightly the pain and scars religions like mormonism and JW's leave on people, some never make it to the real Jesus in their life because if it. I hope God has mercy on them.
Brothers and sisters. Ask yourselves why are you here, on this channel. 6 years 34k views. I believe that God chose 34k people who viewed this to do the same as Cliff. There are videos with 5m views in 2 years. God works, so must we. God gives us wisdom. The same way he gave wisdom to our brothers and sisters in the past. Someone has to keep Gods' true and loving legacy. Until the Judgement Day. God bless you brothers and sisters. We are here for a reason. If there's is something you do not understand, ask. "Whoever asks, receives."
Please, give me your thoughts.
2 plus 2 is 22 lol
The success of the speaker is largely due to his sticking to the basics of the gospel. That is wonderful. If the speaker at any time decides to defend the Trinity, for example, that will be his demise. His reputation as a successful defender will fall to the ground. Keep an eye on this!
I just recently watched the video where Cliff discussed the trinity and he did not lose in that discussion either. He was not left speechless or caught off guard because he's honest. He explained it to the best of his ability and how he sees it. That is the goal. The goal is not to catch someone up in a trick. The goal is to express the truth to them in love. At least, the truth as it is most obviously perceived when it appeals to conscience, humanity and Christ..
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Please give me the site for that video. I am a defender of the first century gospel. The Trinity was never a part of the early church! It was the Greek fathers of the second and third centuries who taught this pagan doctrine. In the fourth century these fathers along with others aligned themselves with Rome and Constantine. The rest is history.
Again, please give me the address to that video, so that I can see for myself. Thank you.
Saying it with your mouth doesn't mean anything, you have to do the truth and walk after the commandments of GOD. FAITH and BELIEVE are the same word in the Greek.
Mark 1:14
Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,
the biggest question is why does the first dude have duct tape on his shirt?
I would take issue with something Cliffe says at about 8 mins in, he says Jesus Christ made a truth claim about being the son of God. What do we have to go on regarding that Jesus actually said that? I'm of the opinion that those words were not Jesus's, but an anonymous author claiming to be Jesus. Outside of the Gospels we have little to go on that any of this stuff actually happened.
We have the fact that they killed him for claiming to be the son of God. And what is really cool is i think we even have his burial cloth to this day, the shroud of turin baby.
Joshua Hults Hmm, the only initial reports of Jesus's death are only found in the gospels, which were written decades after his supposed death, plenty of time for those reports of Jesus's life to become embellished to the point of claims of him being the son of God. I don't think the Turin shroud has been proven as being Jesus's actual burial cloth, but you are free to believe that Joshua.
This is a classic misunderstanding of the historical research done on Jesus. Imagine asking yourself what other historical sources there are regarding Alexander The Great that is not Greek. Now certainly there are, but Greek historical collections, as you would expect, allows the researcher more confidence simply because its done within the geographical area of Alexander's lifetime. The same goes for the gospels, there are exogenous sources for the historicity of the life of Jesus but they exist much later( at least a 100 years ), hence providing less confidence. The gospels remain, to date, the best historical narrative for Jesus available. Unless you can find another historical source that dates within 30 years of the life and work of Jesus, the gospels should remain as the most sound historical document available to mankind.
Ming Jie Gan Hi Ming, one of the problems i have regarding the historicity of Jesus is that the gospels were written long after Jesus supposedly died, I think Mark is the oldest of the 4 synoptic Gospels and was written about 65-70 years after the time of Jesus. For me, that's quite a long time. We don't know who wrote it and it was also written in Greek, .. all these factors for me lessen it's it's actual historicity, not to mention that we don't have any original copies. I also don't believe in supernatural events, has a miracle ever occurred that's been observed by many that has been verified?. For me, it's far more likely that these stories of Jesus were most probably made up. I do believe the writings of the Apostle Paul to be pretty much genuine, i think this has been confirmed by the scholarly world. But crucially, he never met Jesus in the flesh, he only appeared to Jesus via some kind of vision or halluciantion ( on the road to Damascus). Also, i could be wrong, but i don't think Paul, in his writings, ever mentions any of Jesus's miracles, or any of his parables, this seems an incredible omission on behalf of Paul, surely if he wanted to spread the word of Christ, he would surely mention his miracle working, or re-tell some of his parables to whoever would listen.
Hi Bonnie,
' I think Mark is the oldest of the 4 synoptic Gospels and was written about 65-70 years after the time of Jesus. '
-This is false, a closer approximation is around 30-50 years. But let's say that you are right, its still a superior source document for antiquated writings because no other events in that era is comparable. Mentions of someone as important as Alexander the Great came 300 years after his life, do you discount the writings? In addition, the Pauline letter of Corinthians can be demonstrated to be written as near as 3 years after the resurrection of Christ.
' We don't know who wrote it and it was also written in Greek, .. all these factors for me lessen it's it's actual historicity, not to mention that we don't have any original copies. '
- We can't invalidate any historical document simply because we don't know the author's name, this is to me a red herring, If Charles Darwin were to forget writing his name on the Origins of Species, would you disregard the validity of the text? I'm not sure why writing the new testament in Greek is problematic for you. Greek was a widespread language at the time. There is a reason we don't have the original copies, that is, the original copies are written on papyrus, a kind of paper that could only last around 100 years, so expectedly we don't have the original documents. This does not imply that the text is erroneous, we simply have to discuss other more ubiquitous areas on the topic.
' I also don't believe in supernatural events, has a miracle ever occurred that's been observed by many that has been verified? '
-This objection is beyond the realm of historical analysis. What your beef is with the gospel then is philosophy. You rule out the possibility of miracles with your anti-supernaturalist beliefs. In other words, you are making a category error with this objection. Well with regards to verification, these documents prove to be the closest to any sort on justification of a miracle. But of course you'd say that its just writings. Miracles are important to discuss but not important enough to be included in historical discussions.
' For me, it's far more likely that these stories of Jesus were most probably made up. '
- If you hold to this position, then you have a heavy amount of lifting to do. You need to justify historical events like, the empty tomb, the disciples unwavering belief, claims that Jesus appeared to 500 people post-mortem. The 'made up' hypothesis just does not account for these historical facts. '
' Also, i could be wrong, but i don't think Paul, in his writings, ever mentions any of Jesus's miracles, or any of his parables, this seems an incredible omission on behalf of Paul, surely if he wanted to spread the word of Christ, '
-Well, was he not denied sight for three days, then regained it after? Sounds like a miracle to me.
Give me a break
"Hindu" is an ethno-geographic designation, not a truth claim.
"Why jesus" is as usefull as asking "Why Frodo"
An atheist is a person who does not believe in the existence of gods. Period. This position describes all atheists, where some may claim that gods do not exist and some claim they simply lack the belief.
The atheist position is by definition NOT based in the positive claim that gods do not exist.
Christians thinking they need to convert/save unbelievers is akin to the moral this African proverb:
"How the Monkeys saved the Fish"
(Traditional Tanzanian Folktale)
The rainy season that year had been the strongest ever and the river had broken its
banks. There were floods everywhere and the animals were all running up into the
hills. The floods came so fast that many drowned, except the lucky monkeys who
climbed up into the treetops. They looked down on the water where the fish were
swimming and jumping out of the water as if they were the only ones enjoying the
flood.
One of the monkeys saw the fish and shouted: "Look down, my friend, look at those poor creatures. They are going to drown. Do you see how they struggle in the water?"
"Yes," said the other monkey. "They could probably not escape the floods, because
they seem to have no legs. How can we save them?" "I think we must do something.
Let's go close to the edge of the flood where the water is not deep enough to cover
us, and we can help them to get out."
So the monkeys did just that. They started catching the fish, but not without difficulty.
One by one, they brought them out of the water and put them carefully on the dry
land. After a short time there was a pile of fish lying on the grass motionless.
One of the monkeys said, "Do you see? They were tired, but now they are just sleeping and resting. Had it not been for us, my friend, all these poor animals without legs would
have drowned."
The other monkey said: "They will be very grateful because we have saved their lives."
I want to challenge all the theists in this chat (comments), prove god to me, prove that he exists and why he is worth worshiping.
Show me how you know God doesn't exist I'll speak with you further but I'm just curious can you show me how you know he doesn't exist?
the reason you don't know those who don't make heaven is Isaiah 65 v17 See, I will create new heavens and a new earth.The former things will not be remembered,
nor will they come to mind. God will erase the memory of the believer in heaven.
If the evidence of Jesus Christ is more reliable than anyone then every other claim isn't true claim.
Hello. I am an atheist. I define atheism as suspending acknowledgement of the existence of gods until sufficient evidence can be presented. My position is that *_I have no good reason to acknowledge the existence of gods._*
And here is the evidence as to why I currently hold to such a position.
1. I personally have never observed a god.
2. I have never encountered a person whom has claimed to have observed a god.
3. I know of no accounts of persons claiming to have observed a god that were willing or able to demonstrate or verify their observation for authenticity, accuracy, or validity.
4. I have never been presented a valid logical argument which also employed sound premises that lead deductively to a conclusion that a god(s) exists.
5. Of the 46 logical syllogisms I have encountered arguing for the existence of a god(s), I have found all to contain multiple fallacious or unsubstantiated premises.
6. I have never observed a phenomenon in which the existence of a god was a necessary antecedent for the known or probable explanation for the causation of that phenomenon.
7. Several proposed (and generally accepted) explanations for observable phenomena that were previously based on the agency of a god(s), have subsequently been replaced with rational, natural explanations, each substantiated with evidence that excluded the agency of a god(s). I have never encountered _vice versa._
8. I have never experienced the presence of a god through intercession of angels, divine revelation, the miraculous act of divinity, or any occurrence of a supernatural event.
9. Every phenomena that I have ever observed has *_emerged_* from necessary and sufficient antecedents over time without exception. In other words, I have never observed a phenomenon (entity, process, object, event, process, substance, system, or being) that was created _ex nihilo_ - that is instantaneously came into existence by the solitary volition of a deity.
10. All claims of a supernatural or divine nature that I have encountered have either been refuted to my satisfaction, or do not present as falsifiable.
ALL of these facts lead me to the only rational conclusion that concurs with the realities I have been presented - and that is the fact that there is *_no good reason_* for me to acknowledge the existence of a god.
I have heard often that atheism is the denial of the Abrahamic god. But denial is the active rejection of a substantiated fact once credible evidence has been presented. Atheism is simply withholding such acknowledgement until sufficient credible evidence is introduced. *_It is natural, rational, and prudent to be skeptical of unsubstatiated claims, especially extraordinary ones._*
I welcome any cordial response. Peace.
Okay theo what are you living for? Are nazi getting the last say on millions of lives if so are they wrong? Is everything relative? What do you follow today? Have you heard of the prophecies in the bible in the book of daniel it shows roman history entirely up to now pin point also since this is it just a "coincidence" that a book in 600bc guess roman history without a divine being want to learn about read the book of daniel still confused watch Babylon to America. Then after you got the prophecy tell me is it just a coincidence. Or is it backing the proof of god. You can be a skeptic but if your atheists understand morality is relative and the nazi got the last say on millions of jew lives.
Peace I hope that is substantial evidence also life does not come from non life, rational does not come from irrational. Also, look up how complex a single human cell then if you can look at all these designs and rational life existing and say it was accident live it out just god the only will hold all action in judgment. Btw if your holding to atheism because you want to live lawless without self control like cheat and lie and etc.. then dont say you don't because of a lack of evidence.
Love you hopefully I said these things correctly.
Btw 5200 scripture manuscripts is the most for any historical book just saying we can be sure that bible is the same written thousands of years ago see yah
@@bhumble8429 What am I living for? The _only_ other option is _not_ living. Color me a lunatic, but let's just say I _prefer_ to live.
@@bhumble8429 Why are you bringing up Nazis? And no. Not everything is relative. For example, the Nazi party has no relation to my position on atheism as discussed in my original post.
@@bhumble8429 I can see the rest of your comment is no different from the tripe before. Have a wonderful weekend. And don't forget to take your meds! Peace.
why does he have duct tape on his shirt?
2 + 2 =4 but for God it doesn't apply 1 + 1 =1 just like Jesus said I and the Father are One! I will say the this table is 4ft long and you say it's 3ft long and we can't be both true and we might be both wrong. Unless we get a tape measure and check it.