The engine heat issue you mentioned is actually a great unintended benefit. The tank shape leads you to keep your knees tucked in. That transfers the heat which is great when it's chilly or cold. Next time you ride in any temp, at any speed,, just spread your knees out and you'll find that you're instantly cool and comfortable. I have the TS660 and a T100 and love both for totally different reasons.
Nice and honest review! Pointing out the "bad" stuff about the bike is always highly appreciated. Subbed just for that. Enjoy this fine motorcycle and ride safely !
Your idea of heavy traffic is very different to heavy traffic here in the UK 🤣. Nice review. Good to hear about some practical stuff that most reviewers don’t mention or notice. 👍
Bike looks amazing! Ive been looking at them. I went to look at the trident 660 and sat on this- feels amazing too. It has the looks of a sport bike but the feel of a ADV or everyday upright bike. Hard to beat i think.
It is NOT an ADV, (in fact, calling it a Tiger is a pretty questionable move), but the seating position is way more upright and the suspension way more present than on Trident.
Looks you're in the Phoenix east valley? I'm in East Mesa. I've never ridden a motorcycle. The 2 I've been looking into are the Tiger Sport 660 & NC750X with DCT. I can't seem to find the NC750x anywhere though... How did you like the nc750x? Why did you decide to Sell it? I'm 5'11 & 220lbs. I appreciate any help.
Your bike is the same year/color as mine. I opted for the infills on the bags, a quick shifter, and fog lamps. It's a great smaller dispacement motorcycle. I hope you enjoy your's as much as I enjoy mine!
I am very happy to see the motorcycle I ordered with the same color and options. I think it will be in Turkey in 15 days. I want to add qick shifter and bagger options. The top case looks incredibly bad. I would like to buy it especially for passenger comfort and for comfortable travel in traffic, but I guess I won't. Apart from that, I've watched dozens of 660 sport reviews, but I haven't seen anyone describing their experience as good as you. I will follow. thanks.
@@KSSTUDIOS with the negative points you make would you still buy the bike again? I ask because I was looking at the Tiger and Yamaha Tracer 7 gt (which I don't think you get in the US). Having tried both bikes and not being able to make up my mind it was basically a case of availability The Tracer wouldn't have been available till April 2023 as it's a new model whilst the Tiger being a current model was available straight away. In the end I saw a Tiger demonstrator in a main dealer showroom already with luggage rack, hand guards and panniers fitted for a very good price and with the other optional extras I'm having fitted came quite a way under what the price of the Tracer would have been (with extras I would have had fitted) even though the Tracer has the panniers and luggage rack as standard. The Tiger was also in red which is £100 dearer if added as an option. I just hope I've made the right decision.
@@Rodders1 I'm still happy with my decision to buy this Tiger 660. It's a lot of fun to ride. I feel that this model has so much to offer for the price that it would be hard for me to beat this one for my personal needs.
Just found your channel, good review, so I subscribed to see more of your videos. I just bought a blue Tiger Sport 660 a couple of weeks ago, have about 200 miles on it, and I have yet to experience the starting issue that you demonstrated. The fact you can reproduce the starting problem is even worse, as that would point to a real problem. Have you had the dealership look at your bike yet? I have seen this mentioned on the Triumph Rat forums, but wasn't sure exactly what they meant until seeing your video, so keep up the good work!
I just got this bike as well! Same color and everything! I have experienced the same issue with the automatic cancelling with the turn signals. I also agree that the turn signal selector button isn’t very tactile. On my last ride, I made a point of really pushing the button hard to the side, and it seemed to improve the automatic cancelling so it would stay on until I actually turned. I thought maybe I hadn’t been fully engaging the turn signals previously and that was the problem. Too soon to tell if that’s the real issue but thought I’d share just in case.
Same issue with the cold start too! Also with the windscreen. I’m 6’1 and have been using the windscreen everywhere from the highest to the lowest position depending on speed and crosswinds. My default has been about halfway up.
FYI on the turn signals. I learned on my test ride it has a 2 stage function. A slight activation engages it for 3 seconds and is intended for use when changing lanes and will quickly turn off after you completed your lane change, which is assumed by Triumph to take 3 seconds. Pressing and holding the button just a bit longer engages it for a turn, which will keep it on until the turn is complete. I believe the Tiger 900 has the option in the menu system to disengage the lane change function. I don't believe the Sport 660 allows you to disengage it. I personally don't like the lane change function.
Thank you kindly for your input. I got the same bike, same color, same panniers in plain black. I concur with your overall impression. Do get a quickshifter, if you have a chance!
It really wants to be left on a trickle charger to avoid the cold start issue. The plastics do rattle, but eh. 2 years later and it still feels like the bike I bought 2 years ago, I can't complain
I can fit my Bell Star MIPS Deluxe in size XL in the pannier, bit tricky but upside down with opening forward it goes in. I agree with the heat, my TS660 gets very hot to sit on at traffic lights. Even riding along I can feel the warmth coming up. Nice review!
I just put my order in for one. Comes with free shift assist and side bags this month (in Spain). Test rode the V-Strom 650 (had the SV-650) first but just does not compare. The Triumph is a league apart.
Great video! I've got 2K miles on mine, and absolutely love it! It's a fantastic little canyon/mountain carver. The ergo's are spot-on perfect. In your lighting segment @6:00 I'm surprised you didn't mention the rear turn signals. In the US, our rear signals are red, and they also light with the brake light, for extra conspicuity. Also, on cold-starts, my bike takes maybe 1-2 seconds longer to start, but nothing like what your bike is doing.
I actually recorded a segment on the rear turn signals because I think that is a great feature with them lighting up with the brake light. Unfortunately, it didn't make it into the final cut due to a video issue at the time.
I picked up my sport 660 3 weeks ago and its in the shop now for its 600 mile service. The hard cold start first thing in the morning was one thing I complained about.
Yeah, I'm still having that same issue but it's not really a problem if you're expecting it. I have noticed that it's slightly better when I use premium gas in here. It sometimes starts up the first try after sitting for a day or two.
A comprehensive and clear first review. I'd like to know what you think after say six months or a year of ownership. Many thanks enjoyed your review. :-)
Enjoyed your frank review. While there appear to be a few little issues looks like you’re really enjoying your new ride. Curious, what, if anything, you might be missing about your NC? Cheers!
Definitely missing the front storage compartment and the cooler running engine. I'm getting some noticeable engine heat from the Tiger Sport already and it's not even really hot out here in Arizona yet. I'm still happy with my purchase though. This is a fun bike to ride.
Hi there, i have bought the lucerne blue model of this bike and have not experienced your start up issues or rattly inner panels. I have fitted the following triumph accessories, rear carrier and topcase with colour matched infill a lower colour matched belly pan and had the engine crash protection pads fitted. Also recently had the heated grips and an accessorie din plug fitted to power my mobile phone. Also i have fitted Pyramid front and rear fender extendas and like you i have the paddock stand bobbins for access to cleaning and lubricating the chain. i would recommend a radiator guard also as i have fitted one to my bike to reduce any risk to your radiator. Here in the uk its now turning colder but i ride all year so time will tell how it performs over winter. A great detailed video and i have subbed to follow your progress. A great colour for your bike by the way. ride safe.
I have been interested in this particular model. I recently sold my Harley FLHR due to the "normal Harley engine vibration" (not engine sound; I had wonderful mufflers on it), that actually began to affect my inner ear when stuck in NJ/NY area traffic. The low end idle vibration bothered my ears and hearing the next day. I found your video quite informative. Enjoyed the fact that you present pros/cons. Hope to test ride one. Really wondering what your thought are on engine vibration, not a riding speeds (which you covered) but at idle, stuck in traffic or at traffic lights. Hope to hear back from you.
I feel like the Tiger 660 has a better motor but the Honda was more reliable and more comfortable to ride. If I had to pick which one I miss more I would say the Honda. The Triumph has better stock luggage options in my opinion, so if you're interested in a light tourer that might be a deciding factor.
thank you for this review/presentation. It was very helpful. I know you mentioned some rattles, but what is your overall impression on the build quality (i.e plastics,buttons,levers etc) ?
Engine heat tends to go with power output. The Nc750x is alow power chugging engine so logically it will be cooler. I remember my wife's R6, getting caught it town on a hot summer day wasn't fun!
I noticed you turned the bike off from the emergency switch. Could that be upsetting your cold start ups? Triumph recommends turning the engine off from the key, as hitting the emergency switch can lead to electrical issues.
I almost always use the Engine Cut Off Switch to turn off the bike. Here's a great video talking about your concern. th-cam.com/video/D0S4nMx_tbA/w-d-xo.html
I bought mine 9 days ago. I have a Harley touring bike and use this one as a second bike. I ride it through the week on my daily trips into the city (50ish miles one way). It’s a fun bike. I really enjoy it. I’ve never noticed the cold start issue you mentioned on mine. It’s been cold around here lately too (40 degrees F). A couple of days since I had it the temperatures got above 80 and I never noticed any heat issues. However, remember I’m coming from a Harley. Maybe for me the comparison makes me feel like I’m not getting any heat. Just enjoying the bike.
I am 6'2 210+ and sometimes when I ride, i start to slide forward because the seat is tilled. My nuts are then crushed by the bike because of the large lump around the tank area. This doesn't happen all the time, and I love the bike, but it is defiantly an issue for long rides, unless you like that kind of thing.
Got the same issue with my KTM 390Adv. There's a seat from Seat Concepts, which is leveled and therefore a good fix. Wonder if the Comfort Seat is addressing this issue. Do you know?
Unrelated and not your fault or Triumph's whatsoever, but what jumps at me here is that there's not a turn in sight. I think it's my first bike review of that strange kind 🏍. Anyway I like the bike a lot, just have to demo one.
It would barely add any cost to Triumph to add it. The only reason they don’t is because they want to upsell you to a more expensive Tiger in the range which does have it.
Hello, such a beauty!! I am a beginner looking for my first bike and felt in love with the Tiger 660. With your experience is the Tiger beginner friendly?! Thanx and regards from Serbia 🇷🇸✌️
In my opinion, I think it's approachable for a beginner. It does have some power on tap that you'd have to be careful with as a new rider though. Hope that helps.
@@KSSTUDIOS Thanks a lot, I saw you change the bike with now a Suzuki 8S, the reason if I may ask..the Tiger wasn't so good or it just you liked the Suzuki more. I've been to Suzuki dealer also here in Belgrade and it is a lovely bike too, they have also A2 version but don't think you can do some touring with a pillion on it? Regards ✌️
@@svaralen I think the Tiger would definitely be better for pillion/touring. I don't really tour, so the Suzuki works better for me around town and commuting.
Good move on the pannier inserts. The ones at the motorcycle show I went to were half destroyed after just a couple of days on the stand. Lots of boot scrapes. If used a protective covering would be the order of the day.
Any bike engine is going to 'get hot'...though it has been 'mentioned' that this bike does feel very warm after some time, but, how it may feel... can also depend on whether you are a 'crotch' rider or scoot your but back on the seat. I sit back, to get the more 'upright' though then slightly lean in at the shoulder - but your uncovered legs [really] on any bike if you are in shorts will feel engine heat. I always ride in jeans.
I was on the verge of buying this bike but after this seeing this video, I'd rather leave the money in the bank. That kind of aggro to cold-start the bike is just not on! Also, the lag on the throttle is unacceptable. Throttle slack really changes the behaviour of a bike and with some bikes, it makes them no fun at all. Thanks for the forewarning.
@@KSSTUDIOS I bought mine Tuesday and am having the same cold start issue. I work from home and rode it once during my first break yesterday and then during my lunch, fired right up for the lunch ride.
@@ScottRPriester My consecutive start-ups on the same day always start on the first try too. It just seems to be after it has been sitting for a day or longer that it takes a couple of tries.
I can't decide if I want this or the 650 versys or 1000 versys. I was looking at the BMW 1200 gs but can't bring myself to willing to pay 25,000 for a motorcycle and that's before taxes. Sense I like to hold onto all my vehicles for a long time my wife says I should go BMW, but I don't think I need all that but feel I might want it later. I test rode the tiger and it did get hot didn't like that part, but it was comfortable
@@beverleynorth4914 I ended up getting versys 1000 because I went to the Kawasaki demo event. It ended up causing me 22,000 out the door. I was also looking at the triumph tiger 1200 explorer. I liked it but they won't let me test ride it, and I'm not buying a bike without test riding. They also had the multistrada but they wouldn't let me test ride them either so I ended up with the versys 1,000. I like it a lot so far. Had no problems with it. It ain't the fastest bike, but it's fast enough for you crack the throttle , plus I'm not trying to race nobody and every car that I wanted to get around or needed to get away from was very easy to do with it so I'm satisfied right now
Glad you're happy with it. I've got a few Triumphs the 660 isn't one of them. I like it very much. You up in the Phoenix area? I'm outside of Tucson, about 20 miles. Good luck with the bike and I hope that start issue gets ironed out. Maybe a software thing.
I'm in Mesa (east of Phoenix). I've been having some luck with the cold starts lately after the dealer supplied gasoline was used up and I put some premium in here. I'm going to test it for a while and report back.
I do get some vibrations at 80mph but it's fine cruising at that speed. I haven't found any lack of passing power or anything like that. It's a lot of fun to ride.
Thanks for the thorough intro to your new bike. It's on my short list. Like you, I too have an M8 soft tail, but I'm considering moving to this bike - more fun to ride, much lighter, better ergonomics. On my test ride the luggage wasn't available, so I have a question - can you open and close the saddlebags without using the key? Or do you need the key every time you want to access the bag? Thanks.
Don't crank your first cold start up crank for as long as you do, cut that in half, or more. The answer is in the second start not the first, so dont try to start the bike on your first crank.
I do the same thing. First start for 2 or 3 seconds then try again and no issue. I’m curious why everyone has so much trouble with this. Oh, and why so many people are so damn obsessed with a clock.
I don't regret changing bikes but there are definitely pros and cons for each. I'll be doing a comparison video soon on this topic, but to sum up my current feelings: The Triumph has been more exciting to ride but the Honda NC750 was a better commuter bike for me. It has better low-end torque and less heat (which is a big deal when you live in the desert).
The NC750 is a great bike and I highly recommend it, but I find that the Tiger Sport is more fun to ride and a little easier to maneuver. I do miss the front storage on the NC.
The HEAT! Engine Heat? We encountered this issue last year reviewing the big dog 1.8L Harley-Davidson Breakout (not Outbreak, that’s Ebola isn’t it?) in chock-a-block Bangkok tropical UV radiation hot traffic. I burned my ankle. Two hour hours later the clutch gave up! BikeSanooK TH-cam review cancelled next day we tested the Pan America Here’s the video: th-cam.com/video/-YQ8Kc2KPF4/w-d-xo.html
Had a look at one of these first hand at a dealer a couple of weeks ago. After all the glowing TH-cam reviews I was expecting a really well put together bike. I must say I was underwhelmed. The fit and finish was just average and clearly a bike built down to a price. I was disappointed as it was top of my list. Thanks for your realistic review.
Handsdown the best walk-around/intro video of this bike on TH-cam.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video.
Just bought one of these two days ago in Lucerne Blue. It’s a huge upgrade from my Sportster 48. 😄
The engine heat issue you mentioned is actually a great unintended benefit. The tank shape leads you to keep your knees tucked in. That transfers the heat which is great when it's chilly or cold. Next time you ride in any temp, at any speed,, just spread your knees out and you'll find that you're instantly cool and comfortable. I have the TS660 and a T100 and love both for totally different reasons.
Nice and honest review! Pointing out the "bad" stuff about the bike is always highly appreciated. Subbed just for that.
Enjoy this fine motorcycle and ride safely !
Thanks for the sub!
Your idea of heavy traffic is very different to heavy traffic here in the UK 🤣. Nice review. Good to hear about some practical stuff that most reviewers don’t mention or notice. 👍
yeah, that was practically deserted. Traffic!!!! what traffic?
Bike looks amazing! Ive been looking at them. I went to look at the trident 660 and sat on this- feels amazing too. It has the looks of a sport bike but the feel of a ADV or everyday upright bike. Hard to beat i think.
The riding position is my favorite aspect. It feels similar to the NC750 but slightly more comfortable.
It is NOT an ADV, (in fact, calling it a Tiger is a pretty questionable move), but the seating position is way more upright and the suspension way more present than on Trident.
Looks you're in the Phoenix east valley? I'm in East Mesa. I've never ridden a motorcycle. The 2 I've been looking into are the Tiger Sport 660 & NC750X with DCT. I can't seem to find the NC750x anywhere though... How did you like the nc750x? Why did you decide to Sell it? I'm 5'11 & 220lbs. I appreciate any help.
That is a very nice machine, congrats on your excellent purchase.
I switched to a Lithium battery and my cold start improved dramatically
Your bike is the same year/color as mine. I opted for the infills on the bags, a quick shifter, and fog lamps. It's a great smaller dispacement motorcycle. I hope you enjoy your's as much as I enjoy mine!
I am very happy to see the motorcycle I ordered with the same color and options. I think it will be in Turkey in 15 days. I want to add qick shifter and bagger options. The top case looks incredibly bad. I would like to buy it especially for passenger comfort and for comfortable travel in traffic, but I guess I won't. Apart from that, I've watched dozens of 660 sport reviews, but I haven't seen anyone describing their experience as good as you. I will follow. thanks.
Congrats on the new bike! Hope you like it as much as I do.
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@@KSSTUDIOS with the negative points you make would you still buy the bike again?
I ask because I was looking at the Tiger and Yamaha Tracer 7 gt (which I don't think you get in the US). Having tried both bikes and not being able to make up my mind it was basically a case of availability
The Tracer wouldn't have been available till April 2023 as it's a new model whilst the Tiger being a current model was available straight away.
In the end I saw a Tiger demonstrator in a main dealer showroom already with luggage rack, hand guards and panniers fitted for a very good price and with the other optional extras I'm having fitted came quite a way under what the price of the Tracer would have been (with extras I would have had fitted) even though the Tracer has the panniers and luggage rack as standard. The Tiger was also in red which is £100 dearer if added as an option.
I just hope I've made the right decision.
@@Rodders1 I'm still happy with my decision to buy this Tiger 660. It's a lot of fun to ride. I feel that this model has so much to offer for the price that it would be hard for me to beat this one for my personal needs.
Enjoy the new ride!
Just found your channel, good review, so I subscribed to see more of your videos. I just bought a blue Tiger Sport 660 a couple of weeks ago, have about 200 miles on it, and I have yet to experience the starting issue that you demonstrated. The fact you can reproduce the starting problem is even worse, as that would point to a real problem. Have you had the dealership look at your bike yet? I have seen this mentioned on the Triumph Rat forums, but wasn't sure exactly what they meant until seeing your video, so keep up the good work!
I just got this bike as well! Same color and everything! I have experienced the same issue with the automatic cancelling with the turn signals. I also agree that the turn signal selector button isn’t very tactile. On my last ride, I made a point of really pushing the button hard to the side, and it seemed to improve the automatic cancelling so it would stay on until I actually turned. I thought maybe I hadn’t been fully engaging the turn signals previously and that was the problem. Too soon to tell if that’s the real issue but thought I’d share just in case.
Same issue with the cold start too! Also with the windscreen. I’m 6’1 and have been using the windscreen everywhere from the highest to the lowest position depending on speed and crosswinds. My default has been about halfway up.
Thanks for the comments, much appreciated!
FYI on the turn signals. I learned on my test ride it has a 2 stage function. A slight activation engages it for 3 seconds and is intended for use when changing lanes and will quickly turn off after you completed your lane change, which is assumed by Triumph to take 3 seconds. Pressing and holding the button just a bit longer engages it for a turn, which will keep it on until the turn is complete. I believe the Tiger 900 has the option in the menu system to disengage the lane change function. I don't believe the Sport 660 allows you to disengage it. I personally don't like the lane change function.
@@danieldelpozzo2930 I'm probably not holding the turn signal button long enough sometimes. Thanks for the comment!
I switched my turn signals to "manual" cancel (in the menu.) I like having control over when/where my signals deactivate.
Thank you kindly for your input. I got the same bike, same color, same panniers in plain black. I concur with your overall impression. Do get a quickshifter, if you have a chance!
I'm definitely interested in the quickshifter.
How have you found the quick shifter?
@@beverleynorth4914 I stutters a little between 1 and 2 gear, for the rest I find it useful
Amazingly thorough and well segmented - considering this as a first bike, thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Great video. Shad have made top and side pannier mounts for the tiger sport 660. They have SH 36 panniers that will fit a large full face helmet.
Thanks for the info!
It really wants to be left on a trickle charger to avoid the cold start issue. The plastics do rattle, but eh. 2 years later and it still feels like the bike I bought 2 years ago, I can't complain
I can fit my Bell Star MIPS Deluxe in size XL in the pannier, bit tricky but upside down with opening forward it goes in. I agree with the heat, my TS660 gets very hot to sit on at traffic lights. Even riding along I can feel the warmth coming up. Nice review!
Thanks for sharing!
Mega props and thanks for mentioning your inseam when disgusting seat height!
So many youtubers mention overall height, but do not mention inseam.
I just put my order in for one. Comes with free shift assist and side bags this month (in Spain). Test rode the V-Strom 650 (had the SV-650) first but just does not compare. The Triumph is a league apart.
Great video! I've got 2K miles on mine, and absolutely love it! It's a fantastic little canyon/mountain carver. The ergo's are spot-on perfect.
In your lighting segment @6:00 I'm surprised you didn't mention the rear turn signals. In the US, our rear signals are red, and they also light with the brake light, for extra conspicuity.
Also, on cold-starts, my bike takes maybe 1-2 seconds longer to start, but nothing like what your bike is doing.
I actually recorded a segment on the rear turn signals because I think that is a great feature with them lighting up with the brake light. Unfortunately, it didn't make it into the final cut due to a video issue at the time.
I picked up my sport 660 3 weeks ago and its in the shop now for its 600 mile service. The hard cold start first thing in the morning was one thing I complained about.
Yeah, I'm still having that same issue but it's not really a problem if you're expecting it. I have noticed that it's slightly better when I use premium gas in here. It sometimes starts up the first try after sitting for a day or two.
I have had mine for 10 months or so and it also has that issue.
A comprehensive and clear first review. I'd like to know what you think after say six months or a year of ownership. Many thanks enjoyed your review. :-)
Narrowed it down to the BMW 900 FX and This. Leaning towards this one, thanks for the review. Fellow AZ rider here.
I also looked at the BMW but it's a fair bit dearer and everything accessory wise is a lot dearer than other manufacturers accessories.
That BMW looks great. Never tested one of those yet.
Enjoyed your frank review. While there appear to be a few little issues looks like you’re really enjoying your new ride. Curious, what, if anything, you might be missing about your NC? Cheers!
Definitely missing the front storage compartment and the cooler running engine. I'm getting some noticeable engine heat from the Tiger Sport already and it's not even really hot out here in Arizona yet. I'm still happy with my purchase though. This is a fun bike to ride.
Excellent video
Hi there, i have bought the lucerne blue model of this bike and have not experienced your start up issues or rattly inner panels. I have fitted the following triumph accessories, rear carrier and topcase with colour matched infill a lower colour matched belly pan and had the engine crash protection pads fitted.
Also recently had the heated grips and an accessorie din plug fitted to power my mobile phone. Also i have fitted Pyramid front and rear fender extendas and like you i have the paddock stand bobbins for access to cleaning and lubricating the chain. i would recommend a radiator guard also as i have fitted one to my bike to reduce any risk to your radiator. Here in the uk its now turning colder but i ride all year so time will tell how it performs over winter.
A great detailed video and i have subbed to follow your progress. A great colour for your bike by the way. ride safe.
Thanks for sharing your experience with the TS660.
What radiator guard did you buy as I see there's a fair difference in price some are about £39.99 whilst some go up to £64.99?
@@Rodders1 I don't have a radiator guard on here yet but I have been looking at them.
I have fitted an Evotech radiator guard to my ts660 priced at around £40 -£45.. Hope this helps.
Is it looks great with the topbox?
New subscriber. Great review of the Tiger 660. Might be in my future.
Thanks for the sub! It's a lot of fun riding this bike 😀
Thanks for the vid. Glad you pointed out some cons of the bike.
I have been interested in this particular model. I recently sold my Harley FLHR due to the "normal Harley engine vibration" (not engine sound; I had wonderful mufflers on it), that actually began to affect my inner ear when stuck in NJ/NY area traffic. The low end idle vibration bothered my ears and hearing the next day. I found your video quite informative. Enjoyed the fact that you present pros/cons. Hope to test ride one. Really wondering what your thought are on engine vibration, not a riding speeds (which you covered) but at idle, stuck in traffic or at traffic lights. Hope to hear back from you.
Beautiful bike👍👍
That is a nice bike, Man. Very nice
Thanks!
Hi Keith great video. I am interested in the tiger 660 and the nc750x which do you prefer having owned both? Cheers
I feel like the Tiger 660 has a better motor but the Honda was more reliable and more comfortable to ride. If I had to pick which one I miss more I would say the Honda. The Triumph has better stock luggage options in my opinion, so if you're interested in a light tourer that might be a deciding factor.
thank you for this review/presentation. It was very helpful.
I know you mentioned some rattles, but what is your overall impression on the build quality (i.e plastics,buttons,levers etc) ?
Engine heat tends to go with power output. The Nc750x is alow power chugging engine so logically it will be cooler. I remember my wife's R6, getting caught it town on a hot summer day wasn't fun!
Yep, this one seems to filter the radiator heat directly on my shins. We'll see how it does this summer.
I noticed you turned the bike off from the emergency switch. Could that be upsetting your cold start ups? Triumph recommends turning the engine off from the key, as hitting the emergency switch can lead to electrical issues.
I almost always use the Engine Cut Off Switch to turn off the bike. Here's a great video talking about your concern. th-cam.com/video/D0S4nMx_tbA/w-d-xo.html
I bought mine 9 days ago. I have a Harley touring bike and use this one as a second bike. I ride it through the week on my daily trips into the city (50ish miles one way). It’s a fun bike. I really enjoy it. I’ve never noticed the cold start issue you mentioned on mine. It’s been cold around here lately too (40 degrees F). A couple of days since I had it the temperatures got above 80 and I never noticed any heat issues. However, remember I’m coming from a Harley. Maybe for me the comparison makes me feel like I’m not getting any heat. Just enjoying the bike.
Glad you're liking it. I'm still enjoying this bike after six months.
Hello! Did you fix the cold start problem? Thanks!
saving to get mine now hopefully in 3 more months 😭
I am 6'2 210+ and sometimes when I ride, i start to slide forward because the seat is tilled. My nuts are then crushed by the bike because of the large lump around the tank area. This doesn't happen all the time, and I love the bike, but it is defiantly an issue for long rides, unless you like that kind of thing.
Got the same issue with my KTM 390Adv. There's a seat from Seat Concepts, which is leveled and therefore a good fix. Wonder if the Comfort Seat is addressing this issue. Do you know?
Unrelated and not your fault or Triumph's whatsoever, but what jumps at me here is that there's not a turn in sight. I think it's my first bike review of that strange kind 🏍. Anyway I like the bike a lot, just have to demo one.
Cruise control would be a really nice option on this bike, has throttle by wire why not add cruise? Other bikes in this class don't offer it either.
I believe that is down to price as this bike is competing with bikes of a similar ilk at a similar price.
It would barely add any cost to Triumph to add it. The only reason they don’t is because they want to upsell you to a more expensive Tiger in the range which does have it.
I'm in the market for one of these, and your insights on this new model are very helpful.Thanks. At 75mph in 6th gear what is the RPM?
6th gear at 75mph would probably be around 5,800 to 6,000 RPM.
Hello, such a beauty!! I am a beginner looking for my first bike and felt in love with the Tiger 660. With your experience is the Tiger beginner friendly?! Thanx and regards from Serbia 🇷🇸✌️
In my opinion, I think it's approachable for a beginner. It does have some power on tap that you'd have to be careful with as a new rider though. Hope that helps.
@@KSSTUDIOS Thanks a lot, I saw you change the bike with now a Suzuki 8S, the reason if I may ask..the Tiger wasn't so good or it just you liked the Suzuki more. I've been to Suzuki dealer also here in Belgrade and it is a lovely bike too, they have also A2 version but don't think you can do some touring with a pillion on it? Regards ✌️
@@svaralen I think the Tiger would definitely be better for pillion/touring. I don't really tour, so the Suzuki works better for me around town and commuting.
do you regret not getting the blue or red or have you enjoyed the silver all the colors look good so far on this bike
I own the blue and test rode the silver. It was actually a very tough choice, because they both look so nice. The red one is a miss for me though.
Nice review. Different.
Nice bike
Good move on the pannier inserts. The ones at the motorcycle show I went to were half destroyed after just a couple of days on the stand. Lots of boot scrapes. If used a protective covering would be the order of the day.
Motor SHOW “Kickin’ the Tires and Slammin’ the Doors”
Bangkok Motor Show/ Expo th-cam.com/video/rBVJnevFvk0/w-d-xo.html
Yeah, I'm having the colour matched inserts fitted but I reckon I'll ask for the originals back as well.
howdy ..if may i ask about heat form the engine ..can u ride it on hot summer day with shorts and not get burn on yor legs/ knees 🤔 tx
Any bike engine is going to 'get hot'...though it has been 'mentioned' that this bike does feel very warm after some time, but, how it may feel... can also depend on whether you are a 'crotch' rider or scoot your but back on the seat. I sit back, to get the more 'upright' though then slightly lean in at the shoulder - but your uncovered legs [really] on any bike if you are in shorts will feel engine heat. I always ride in jeans.
I was on the verge of buying this bike but after this seeing this video, I'd rather leave the money in the bank. That kind of aggro to cold-start the bike is just not on! Also, the lag on the throttle is unacceptable. Throttle slack really changes the behaviour of a bike and with some bikes, it makes them no fun at all. Thanks for the forewarning.
I'll be doing follow-ups on this issue as I use the bike more. Currently trying some premium fuel in here to see if it helps.
@@KSSTUDIOS I bought mine Tuesday and am having the same cold start issue. I work from home and rode it once during my first break yesterday and then during my lunch, fired right up for the lunch ride.
@@ScottRPriester My consecutive start-ups on the same day always start on the first try too. It just seems to be after it has been sitting for a day or longer that it takes a couple of tries.
Why they didn't put cruise control on this thing will never make sense to me.
I can't decide if I want this or the 650 versys or 1000 versys. I was looking at the BMW 1200 gs but can't bring myself to willing to pay 25,000 for a motorcycle and that's before taxes. Sense I like to hold onto all my vehicles for a long time my wife says I should go BMW, but I don't think I need all that but feel I might want it later. I test rode the tiger and it did get hot didn't like that part, but it was comfortable
Have you considered the Multistrada v2
@@beverleynorth4914 I ended up getting versys 1000 because I went to the Kawasaki demo event. It ended up causing me 22,000 out the door. I was also looking at the triumph tiger 1200 explorer. I liked it but they won't let me test ride it, and I'm not buying a bike without test riding. They also had the multistrada but they wouldn't let me test ride them either so I ended up with the versys 1,000. I like it a lot so far. Had no problems with it. It ain't the fastest bike, but it's fast enough for you crack the throttle , plus I'm not trying to race nobody and every car that I wanted to get around or needed to get away from was very easy to do with it so I'm satisfied right now
At this price point why doesn't it has silent start ?
Glad you're happy with it. I've got a few Triumphs the 660 isn't one of them. I like it very much. You up in the Phoenix area? I'm outside of Tucson, about 20 miles. Good luck with the bike and I hope that start issue gets ironed out. Maybe a software thing.
I'm in Mesa (east of Phoenix). I've been having some luck with the cold starts lately after the dealer supplied gasoline was used up and I put some premium in here. I'm going to test it for a while and report back.
Do you have the same cold start issue?
@Gergő Gönczi don't have a 660.. 2012 Tiger Explorer. No issues... Well I have had my share of "other issues" but starting no
The dash has features like avg. fuel, current consumption, fuel range... etc?
Yes, it does display fuel stats. Seems pretty accurate.
The freeway speeds are about 80mph where I live, how does the bike feel at the speed?
I do get some vibrations at 80mph but it's fine cruising at that speed. I haven't found any lack of passing power or anything like that. It's a lot of fun to ride.
Thanks for the thorough intro to your new bike. It's on my short list. Like you, I too have an M8 soft tail, but I'm considering moving to this bike - more fun to ride, much lighter, better ergonomics. On my test ride the luggage wasn't available, so I have a question - can you open and close the saddlebags without using the key? Or do you need the key every time you want to access the bag? Thanks.
You need the key every time. The key won't pull out of the lock until it is turned into the locked position.
@@KSSTUDIOS Thanks. Not a fan of that "feature", but overall a small annoyance.
How would you compare it to the honda nc750
Are the panniers easy enough to put on and take off?
yes they are.
Don't crank your first cold start up crank for as long as you do, cut that in half, or more. The answer is in the second start not the first, so dont try to start the bike on your first crank.
I don't normally hold it for that long. I was trying to exaggerate the cold start-up delay.
I do the same thing. First start for 2 or 3 seconds then try again and no issue. I’m curious why everyone has so much trouble with this. Oh, and why so many people are so damn obsessed with a clock.
I'm riding a.ninja 1000 and I'm 5'7...will I be comfortable with a tiger?
The Tiger is a little tall but it should be just fine. I would recommend trying one for size at a dealer if you have one close enough to you.
holy christ dude dont hold your starter button that long or youll end up with a check engine
It was done to exaggerate my point about the cold start-ups.
did you regret changing the nc for this?
I don't regret changing bikes but there are definitely pros and cons for each. I'll be doing a comparison video soon on this topic, but to sum up my current feelings: The Triumph has been more exciting to ride but the Honda NC750 was a better commuter bike for me. It has better low-end torque and less heat (which is a big deal when you live in the desert).
compared to the NC ?
The NC750 is a great bike and I highly recommend it, but I find that the Tiger Sport is more fun to ride and a little easier to maneuver. I do miss the front storage on the NC.
thanks. i have a 2022 Street Twin. great bike but considering something with more wind protection and luggage options
The HEAT! Engine Heat? We encountered this issue last year reviewing the big dog 1.8L Harley-Davidson Breakout (not Outbreak, that’s Ebola isn’t it?) in chock-a-block Bangkok tropical UV radiation hot traffic.
I burned my ankle. Two hour hours later the clutch gave up! BikeSanooK TH-cam review cancelled next day we tested the Pan America
Here’s the video: th-cam.com/video/-YQ8Kc2KPF4/w-d-xo.html
Had a look at one of these first hand at a dealer a couple of weeks ago. After all the glowing TH-cam reviews I was expecting a really well put together bike. I must say I was underwhelmed. The fit and finish was just average and clearly a bike built down to a price. I was disappointed as it was top of my list. Thanks for your realistic review.
If I might ask, what are some other bikes are you considering?