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Viltrox EF-M2 and GH5 Three months later [Q&A April 2018]
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 เม.ย. 2018
- The Viltrox EF-M2 is still making waves through the filmmaking community with its performance and extreme shortage around the world. With cheaper alternatives comes many questions that are not well documented.
This week’s Q&A is dedicated solely to the Viltrox EF-M2, GH5, and Sigma 18-35 combo, and how well it’s performed for me in the past 3 months on a corporate shoot and a feature film set.
[Feature Film] - Maximillianthemovie
[Original Viltrox Video] - • Best Speedbooster for ...
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[SIGMA 18-35] - bit.ly/Sigma_1835
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#TLDRfilmmaker
If you're still not able to get infinity focus no matter how much you turn clockwise, this is what you have to do: Unscrew the Viltrox lens all the way until it comes out of the body. On the inside of the body, on the lip on the sensor-side, you will see a buildup of a glue-like substance. Scrape all of this off and then put the lens back into the body and rotate clockwise until you can't rotate it anymore. This is what worked for me.
Hey Darius!
Thank you so much for checking out the video and commenting!
That's a wonderful tip! Many have asked about this, I guess I was one of the lucky ones where I'm able to reach infinity. Will be pinning this comment to the top.
Thank you so much for stopping by and letting the community know your findings, much appreciated!
No problem, thank you for your videos!
I wished i had read up your comment sooner, i used a pair of plyers and twist the crap out of it, fortunately it works fine, but i was definitely scary as hell
Thank you mate! Worked for me;)
Спасибо, это сработало!
Just Quan I did the same thing 😅 and scratch a lil bit the glass. Do you think it will affect the video?
You had me at, "The answers come first."! Buying one today so I will be checking in with your channel frequently.
Hey hey Jason!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting!
I'm so glad you enjoyed the format of this channel! The Viltrox EF-M2 and M1 have served me well with my two zoom lens cine-setup (Sigma 18-35 and Sigma 50-150) Used them for videos as well as some non-action photography. Viltrox has also kept up with their firmware updates too! I just wished they listened to my suggestion of making a XL booster version at .64x like the metabones, if they did that at a $250 price mark....man, I would be a happy camper!
Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
You're doing an amazing job man. Short and clear!
Hey AlexO!
Thank you so much for checking out the video, for the kind words, and commenting!
I will continue to do my best and put out fun meaningful videos for filmmakers and aspiring filmmakers alike!
Thanks again for stopping by! Check back every Wednesday for something new!
Thank you for your channel concept. by putting the answers at the beginning, you've earned a follower!
Hey Rocco!
Thank you so much for checking out the video, the kind words, and subbing!
I will continue to do my best and put out fun meaningful videos for filmmakers and aspiring filmmakers alike! Until then, see you every Wednesday for something new! What kind of videos do you enjoy filming?
Hey
The one u show us is it has two dot rad and White and the other on is it has one rad only what is the different plz I need help
Greetings Bemnet!
Thank you so much for checking out the video and asking a question!
By "other one" do you mean the Commlite booster that I reviewed later? If so, the difference is that they are made by different companies with slightly different optical quality. Overall I prefer the Viltrox optics, but I have shot photos with the Commlite and have been happy with the results.
In terms of what those Red and White dots are, those a simply the mounting position holes for EF Full Frame Lenses (Red Dot) and EF-S crop lenses (White dot). However Canon EF-S mount lenses won't really work on this adapter because of the optics. My guess is the white dot is there from their non-optic EF-M1 adapter.
Hope this makes sense! Thanks again for stopping by, hope to see you in the next one!
I really wish more companies would use that firmware updating mechanism and not some custom installer programs. This way it works just the same way on MacOS, Windows and even Linux! Thanks for showing that :)
Greetings fingers!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting!
I agree, makes it nice and easy and they don't have to create a seperate program for it all! So glad this video was able to help you out!
Thanks again for stopping by! Hope to see you again in the next one!
Very unique and coherent video structure, definetely catching peoples attention! Got a sub.
Greetings +raf700!
Thank you so much for checking out the video, the kind words, and subbing!
I will continue to do my best and put out fun meaningful videos for filmmakers and aspiring filmmakers alike!
Thanks again for stopping by! See you in the next one every Wednesday!
This guy is like a breath of fresh air. Makes me happy to watch his videos. Dude i just ordered my GH5 + Viltrox. Scared man. alot of mixed reviews about the GH5 autofocus and such. any insider-tips?
Greetings Dlavar!
Thank you so much for checking out this video, the kind words, and commenting!
In terms of the AF performance of the GH5 with the viltrox. If you are in Photo mode and using it for photography, it's actually not terrible depending on which lens you pair up with the Viltrox. Sigma's have generally been fine, Canon's you'll want to check their compatibility list. Tamrons I wouldnt try on these adapters because their EF protocol is wonky, and I think Tokina's have been fine.
However if you are wanting to use AF for video, it will not work as smoothly as you'd like because the adapter is taking a different type of of lens language and translating it to the GH5.
For me this adapter is really only serving two purposes: Aperture control and Focal Length information so that the GH5 knows how to adjust its IBIS feature. A lot of what I do require manual focus by the camera operator so I don't really count on the AF. If Continuous AF for video is of importance in your line of work, it seems the Pana-Leica 12-60mm has done well overall, but in general you will want to go with a native Panasonic MFT lens over the adapter route.
Hope this helps! I truly love this combo with the Sigma 18-35 for my narrative film work. Very rarely do I switch over to my Sigma 50-150mm (only for specialized shots)
Thanks again for stopping by and I hope to see you again in the next one every Wednesdays (minus holiday weeks)!
@@TLDR_filmmaker Thx for the reply man! im actually using the adapter with my 35mm 1.4 SIgma ART. havent had alot of time to try it out yet. But where there is a will there is a way. its all about learning to work with your gear instead of always looking for the next best thing.
You are most welcome! That's a beast lens! It'll look beautiful on the GH5!
picked on up on ebay new, $120. Works well with my g7 and tamron 17-50mm f2.8. Used it yesterday at a wedding! I think the images I get from this combo is as good or better than with native panasonic 12-35mm f2.8
Hey Jorge!
Thank you so much for checking out the video and commenting!
Thats awesome! and an amazing price too! I have a two quick questions,
- Is your Tamron 17-50mm the one with O.S.?
- does your aperture adjustment still work with your Tamron 17-50? The reason I ask was when I first had that lens with the gen 1 Metabones and GH4. The Aperture worked on the first power up, and after I shut it down it burned out the aperture motor and it no longer worked. I loved that lens and hated to give it up, but if you're having no problems...I think I need to re-add that into my collection!
Thank you so much for stopping by and for your time! Check back every Wednesday for something new!
Funny you talk about your issue with your gen 1 metabone. I had a similar experience two years ago with a cheapo chinese adapter that promised aperture control. Hooked it up to my Tamron with OS and next thing I know when I turned on the camera the aperture was going crazy. Turned off the camera and removed adapter. Long story short, my Tamron is stuck at f2.8 and unfortunately I cannot control aperture with the Viltrox. I just purchased a Sigma 17-50 with OS and I'm hoping to get control of the aperture.
Enjoy your channel btw!
It's something that inherently weird with the Tamron lenses, they are all over the place in terms of compatibility with adapters, but Sigma's on the other hand, whether its tested or not, all seem to work just fine with adapters. It's weird.
Thank you so much for the kind words! I will continue to do my best and put out fun meaningful videos for filmmakers and aspiring filmmakers alike!
Received my Sigma yesterday and IS and aperture work great with the Viltrox!
Awesome! That Sigma was a very nice lens, short focus throw, but images were nice and sharp and it's definitely a great all purpose combo for the MFT system! Have fun with it and enjoy!
Once again, I'm the first! I ordered a Viltrox EF-M2 and it didn't come yet. Thank you for your videos, keep like this! Your videos are fun and great. Cheers from La Argentina!
Buenos dias again MadbeatStudio!
Thank you as always for coming in first and checking out my video! Cheers from the USA!
Two years later and I still love my viltrox adapters. I have three and recently noticed prices went up!
Hey hey again Jorge!
Yea the prices on these have gone up, but still cheaper than Metabones!
I really wish they would make one with a Variable ND attachment. I am surprised more companies don't do this.
@@TLDR_filmmaker I remember buying mine between $90 used to $129 new. Now they are over $200 in some cases. Yes, would be asesome to have one with an ND
I really want to reach out to them and ask them to please develop this. They have one of the better 3rd party lens adapter support that works with cameras, especially the MFT system. I don't know but why is MFT so weird with their coding compared to Sony E?
Thanks for the video, managed to update the Viltrox EF-M1 firmware. My Olympus EM1 with Canon lens focus lag problem is resolved.
Hey Bob!
Thank you so much for checking out the video and commenting!
I'm happy to hear that the firmware updates Viltrox has been putting out is increasing its functionality for Olympus shooters! What Canon lenses are you pairing with the Viltrox?
Thanks again for stopping by! Check back every Wednesday for something new!
I just got one of these for my Panasonic G7 and primarily shoot 1080p. Im looking for a good all-around Canon lens to pair this with. FF not APS-C right? What lens would you recommend? A-roll + B-Roll. On our channel we do computer builds, vlogs, product reviews, tech content, etc. Thanks in advance.
Hey Coalition Gaming!
Thank you so much for checking out the video and asking a question!
If you are buying Canon branded lenses, yes, FF only. The Canon APS-C lenses have a extra extension behind the lens that makes it hard to work with these adapters.
However any "Third Party" canon mount lenses (Sigma, Tokina, etc) will not have this problem, they will use a traditional FF Canon EF mount and all will work fine.
I may sound like a broken record, but the Sigma 18-35 f/1.8 is probably your best bet in terms of an all around lens with this adapter. The only thing that may not work well is V-logs, depending on how you film. If you're looking for something like Casey Neistat where you walk around holding the camera in front of you with Continuous AF, this would not be the right set up, you'll probably want a native MFT lens for those situation. For everything else, this lens gives you flexibility of focal ranges and nice out of focus background when you need it.
Hope this helps!
Sigma 18-35: amzn.to/2BTwO8s (affiliate link)
Extra Suggestion: If you don't have a set up yet, make sure you have plenty of lights to light up your videos so that your audience can see clearly all the builds you're doing.
A few others also suggested that exact lens, and yesterday while eBay ran it's 20% off promo, I picked one up for $560. Will put it to good use, thanks for the response!
You're most welcome and thats an awesome price for that lens! So glad you were able to get it! Enjoy it and film some awesome stuff with it!
If i was the CEO of a company, I’ll have all my employees to follow you. Thanks for the videos!
Hey FoloLyon!
Thank you so much for the kind words and thank you for checking out the video! Will continue to do my best to make fun and meaningful content for filmmakers! Check back every Wednesday for something new! Thanks again!
Very interesting and informative! You deserve more subscribers and you now have a new one!
Hey Tea Jay Photography!
Thank you so much for the kind words, stopping by in the comments, and subbing! I will continue to do my best to put out fun meaningful videos for creators and aspiring creators alike! See you again Wednesday with something new!
The footage for your feature looks great man!!!
Hey Corey!
Thank you so much for the kind words! I'm excited for this film to premiere, the director told me the trailer reception has been great! Thanks for subbing too! What kind of videos do you enjoy filming?
indie action and random nonsense. I'm looking at the facebook page and can't seem to find the trailer.
Hey hey Corey!
Sorry I haven't gotten to the episode yet where I break down my processes on trailers for the movies. Here are the links to the trailers.
My colleagues Feature Film where I deploed the Viltrox, about 90% of the shots were done with the viltrox and Sigma 18-35. A couple shots are from the 2nd camera op that used the Panasonic 12-35: th-cam.com/video/N1ICk2C4Pf8/w-d-xo.html
For a different comparison, this is my own feature film where we primarily used Rokinon Prime lenses. th-cam.com/video/G_SgqEfoNFs/w-d-xo.html
Yay! Another indie action filmmaker! Do you have any links I can watch?
Thanks for the vid :) A 5th of the Metabones price with similar performance. Other than there still not being a 0.64 version from Viltrox...Metabones can go do one. They're just too greedy. The monopoly is at an end...which is great for consumers :)
Greetings Symon!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting!
It would be pretty sweet if Viltrox came out with a 0.64x XL version like the Metabones, but that may soon no longer be a thing with the announcement of the Panasonic Full Frame Camera line-up thats coming sometime in 2019.
I did a video about my ideas on what features they may have, and if the crop modes are in their Full Frame Cameras, good by speedboosted adapters and hello full native lens performance!
Panasonic Full Frame Video: th-cam.com/video/X8byhC3-SUo/w-d-xo.html
Thanks again for stopping by! Hope to see you again in the next one every Wednesday!
*I JUST BOUGHT ONE SINCE METABONES IS NOT RESPONDING TO MY EMAIL AFTER THEY TOLD ME TO SEND IT IN FOR REPAIR SMH! OH WELL* IM EXCITED TO FINALLY HAVE THIS VELTROX*
Hey hey again!
Thank you so much for checking out another one of my videos!
What happened with your Metabones?! They stopped responding to me as well when I bought their first MFT Metabones and it fried two of my Tamron lenses, they just said they couldn't do anything about it and then eventually stopped responding to me asking for a refund. This was about 4 years ago, needless to say I never want to buy any of their products after that encounter and losing two lenses.
I'll admit they are more on top of things than other adapter companies with super fast firmware updates, but if Viltrox continues the way they have been with developing firmwares, listening to customers, and at this price point. Metabones is in trouble...at least to the MFT crowd.
The first time I saw your review I was sold on this smaller company. I agree with everything you're saying, they will def give metabones a run for their money.
I emailed them and explained that just the pins of my connector broke. It was still usable, but it did not connect to the camera electronically. So I emailed them to see what my options were to fix it. The main thing I love about this lens is the X71 crop but especially the fact I can stop down as well, I shoot more manual most of the time.
But, they got back to me with where to send it and the amount I needed to PayPal them in order for me to receive it back after it was fixed. I did all that and I never heard from them again. I email them every week because it makes no sense. If it's not fixable just let me know.
Oh well. I just paud $118 for this Veltrox and at that price i will definately be happy.
Oh man thats is not good, sorry that you had to deal with it. I hope the Viltrox does everything you need it to! If you have trouble with Infinity Focus, there is a pinned comment from another user that offered a 2nd solution that seems to be working for everyone that can't turn the optics far enough to reach infinity for their lenses. Definitely stop back and let us know how well the Viltrox works for you!
TLDR Filmmaker absolutely thank you for the feedbacks
Hello, I am a subscriber. 8 have a question. Does the Viltrox speedboster reduce the crop by 0.71? So the 18mm would not be 36mm, instead around 13mm?
Hey hey Terry!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question!
Correct, it becomes a 13-14mm which means you get approx a 26-28mm full frame look. I know it gets confusing with all the conversions, but those are the numbers for ya!
Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hello everyone!
I have a common issue with my viltrox EF-M2 on my GH5: it says "lens attachment failed" when I try to use a Samyang 85mm Cine lens with it. I tried to tape the golden pins on the viltrox and also tried on the lens directly, but in both cases I managed to make it work for a few seconds no more, most of the time I get a black screen. I'm guessing I'm not taping it right, or something like that. Anyway I'm trying to work around that issue as I'd like to purchase a 85mm samyang. If you had a similar problem with the viltrox and you could fix it, your help will be much appreciated!
Cheers
Hey Jourdan!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question.
That is odd that even with the tape over the contracts that you are still getting that error. If you have a plain dummy adapter, do you get the lens error too?
I'm wondering that and if the newest Panasonic firmware has messed up adapters again. I'm personally still on old old firmware (right when they introduced 400mpbs) because I don't want to fix whats not broken.
Let the community here know your setup and firmwares and lets see if we have some more answers! Hope this helps!
I have to comment.
I too have the ef-m2 mark 2 from viltrox and a panasonic camera.
Yes. That tiny screw at the back of the speedbooster is a screw to hold the lens element from nor moving.
No you dont just turn the elements all the way clockwise from the front.
You need to mark the back for reference and start adjusting that element counter/clockwise from the back until your lens hits perfect focus, on the widest apperture, 7-8 meters away with a big enough target say a christmass tree, picked a point using the crosshair focus area and using MANUAL mode on the lens/camera.
Once you hit perfect infinity line focus then your viltrox is perfectly calibrated.
Talk about doong calibration with a sigma art lens then tou would know how difficult thats going to be.
Hey hey Kalle!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting!
The newer models may be slightly different, the first generation had a stopping point that got it to infinity. Definitely recalibrating the lens itself is a crazy process and generally not necessary, just messing with the booster element is enough.
Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Thanks man.
So on te mark 1 you are to counterclockwise to remove the glass element from the front or back of the speedbooster?
I do not like how the viltrox behaves with autofocus.
I used it with my gh3 and a canon EF 50mm.
The viltox is always focus hunting and it is slow to focus.
Later when you review the video the images are soft.
I gave up on it.
I don't know what else to do wit all of my canon lenses!
Hey hey nublackmusic!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting!
Do you mean autofocus for video or photo? If it's video, it is no fault of the Viltrox but rather with how the Panasonic's focusing type works. It is further worsened by using lenses that are adapted and not native. For me, I use this adapter only for lens electronic communication, so that the IBIS is automatically set, and to adjust the aperture blades.
For photos, the Autofocus really depends on why lens you use with the adapter. Only certain lenses that they've written firmware for will perform adequately. For me, they've never calibrated a firmware for the Canon 50mm Mk1 (non-STM), and that lens will never find focus no matter what, whereas my Sigma 18-35mm is able to for photos. The Sigma isn't listed, but something about Sigma lenses seems to operate similarly to Canon L series lenses, so the Autofocus have works just fine for photos.
Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by and I’ll see you in the next one!
Thanks for the informative review. I was between the Commilte and this one. The Metabones is just out of my price range right now. I also have the GH5. I bought this adapter from eBay for about $124.00. I hope it will be here before a trip I will be taking just after Christmas.
Hello Blue Road Media!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting!
I have both the Commlite and Viltrox, the optics are pretty similar but I would still go with the Viltrox over the Commlite because it seems just a hair sharper does a does better when you shoot against a large light source (Which I tend to do a bit with my DP style)
I hope you get it quickly too, that's not a bad price at all for the EF-M2. Have fun with it and of course create something awesome with it!
Thanks again for stopping by in the comments! Hope to see you in the next one every Wednesdays (minus Holiday weeks)
I have the Commlite coupled with Sigma and Tamron lenses to my GH5 and G85. The Commlite was working just fine for a few months then it started to lock up both cameras and I have to loosen the lens then re-attach the lens to get it to unlock itself, it does this on both cameras and always at the wrong time. I shoot a lot of event photography with this set up. For video on these cameras I use a non electronic focal reducer adapter for my Rokinon Cine DS lenses that never fails me not ever.
Hey hey der Ryk1!
Thank you so much for checking out the video and adding you experiences in the comments! That is odd that it was working fine and then would act weird at the wrong times...I wonder, do you recall which batteries you were using in your cameras when the camera would lock up for a second? (Specifically if you use 3rd party batteries)
Assuming the adapter is not loose and powers on just fine, I wonder if certain 3rd party batteries causes this to happen?
Another one would be which lenses do you use for photography? Tamron's have always been weird when talking through an adapter to another cameras mount. Canon and Sigma have for the most part been fine with no quirky problems.
Hope this helps narrow down some ideas where the freeze could be coming from! Thanks again for stopping by! Hope to see you again in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker I'm using both original Panasonic batteries and third party batteries on both cameras. At first I thought is was the SD card causing the locking up problem but then discovered that others were having same problems as I and it was their adapters even one person was using the Metabones and it acted up on them. Perhaps something in the Lumix firmware must be addressed because if the adapter has a little wiggle room it really should not lock up the camera like it does. It is an annoyance but I work around it and deal with it. Over all I am very much pleased with the quality and performance of the GH 5 and G85. I just wish that there is a better solution then putting a piece of tape between the adapter and camera to lessen the camera "freak out" effect. BTW I have not updated my camera firmware since last year I know it is time to do so.
I feel the panasonic firmware side of things have done weird stuff to adapters. I'm actually still on very old firmware on my GH5, I'm still on firmware 2.2. A lot of the problems people have been having since 2.3, I don't experience. That being said, Viltrox has been pretty responsive with user's inquiries and I believe are actively working as fast as they can while panasonic continuously updates firmware.
Def would Buy one if I was still using ef lenses since I bought the gh5 been using m4/3.
Hello again WSF! It's been awhile!
Definitely nothing wrong going with M43 glass, I love them but just have already been in the EF camp since the Canon T3i. However...as useless as it may be, I do want to eventually own a set of M43 lenses for a lighter setup. Most likely the Olympus 12-40 and 40-150 and maaaybe one or two prime lenses.
How does that signal 18_35 work with stability? Was thinking if going with a Panasonic lens mainly for the Power OIS.
Hey hey Smitty Adventures!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question!
The IBIS through this adapter is spot on and behaves like a normal Panasonic lens as all the EXIF data is transferred through. The combination of GH5 and Sigma is a great combination not because of focal length, but the weight of the setup is perfect when going handheld. The weight is more or less right under your lens holding hand and floats very well when paired with IBIS.
Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Ok I send back a VIltrox EF m2 Mkii and I have the infinity problem, also hypermetropy when I push too much.
Hey! Why does this adapter tripod shoe not attach properly to arca swiss plates? Did you have the same issue before? Cause I'm not able to use my gimbal with this adapter.
Hey hey Riko!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question!
I actually have never used the adapters own Tripod Mount, I removed it the moment I got the adapter. Is your arca swiss plates 1/4" 20 screw not able to rotate into the mount? If you have another 1/4" 20 screw I would see if that one might have better luck (though I doubt this would be the case, but worth a try) if it doesn't fit still, then it's most likely a manufacture defect of the tripod mount on the adapter. If the lens you are using on your gimbal is not heavy, then I would just remove the adapters tripod mount with the included Allen Wrench. But if you really need the adapters tripod mount then I would contact Viltrox to see if they can send you out just that part instead of a whole new adapter.
Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by and I’ll see you in the next one!
I finally got a good one today, this is my 3rd Wiltrox. EF M2. I am very happy and work well in photo and very sharp in video GH5 with Sigma Art 35mm F/1.4. My 1st one were defective, camera communication failed to attach lens. I sent back to Hong Kong and got a replacement but it is still bad. AF in still is also bad and many time fail to acquired focus and poor image quality. In video mode, image quality degraded to a point that I am not willing to use it for anything. I eventually throw it in the trash can. I keep thinking want to get the Metabone adapter but I am not willing to spent $600+ for it. The majority of TH-cam gave high regards in the Wiltrox adapter. So I decide to spent the money for a 3rd one. I figure it is still so damn cheap compared to Metabone adapter. Worth another try. Sure enough I got a good Wiltrox adapter works really in AFS in photo and very good image quality in video. I got a large selection of EF L Lenses and I am so freaking happy about this.
Greetings BrucePhung!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting!
That it so weird that it took till the third one for you to get a reliable model! I'm not sure if I was just lucky and had a good batch as I've never had any problems with mine and has been working quite well ever since. But I am so glad that you now have one that you can use with your selection of EF L series lenses!
Thank you so much again for stopping by! Hope to see you in the next one!
I just bought mine finally on Amazon yesterday.
Hey Derek!
That's awesome man! Enjoy the adapter when it comes and be sure to share with the community any cool footage you get with it! What kind of videos do you enjoy filming?
I'm new to filming. Short films and documentaries is what I'm interested in. Just learning as I go and your info and insight has helped me tremendously. This is one of my favorite channels. I just found it a few weeks ago. I'll definitely share some stuff later.
Thank you so much for the kind words and support. I'm putting together a fun reference course for beginners/intermediate filmmakers, hope to get it done by the end of this year. Until then I will continue doing my best and create fun informational content for the community! Thanks again and have fun!
Other reviewers have said that lenses fit more snugly on the Viltrox and the Viltrox more snugly to the lens. They even show the Metabones moving (having play) on video...
Thanks for the video man, after some minor adjustments my Viltrox is working quite well... I do not regret returning my metabones, the results are too similar to pay all that extra $$$$$. Great content... keep up the great work.. btw I was able to get one through alibaba express
Hello again, Fabio!
Thank you again for your support on this channel! So glad you were able to get the Viltrox, it really is basically the Metabones, the Kipon just does not come anywhere close to the Viltrox at nearly double the cost. Thanks again, I'll continue to do my best and put out fun meaningful content!
Hey, out of curiosiy what adjustments did you make?
Hey Strange Distortions!
Thank you so much checking out the video and commenting! I know you're asking Fabio, but I'll chime in as well!
Most likely its the optical adjustments and adding some sort of extra padding to the mounting sides of the adapter to snug everything up. Thats my guess as theres not much else that can be done to the adapter itself. However I may experiment with some felt material on the lens mount side of the adapter to see if it does anything for internal reflections. While this adapter doesn't seem to exhibit any, I'm still gonna test it out and see what it does!
Hope this helps! Thanks again!
Thank you! :)
You're most welcome!
Very interested in the lens you'd recommend shooting on with these? I have a super 35 censor
Hey Nick!
Thank you so much for checking out the video and commenting!
Since these adapters are only for MFT cameras to turn them into S35 sensors (more or less) its nice that you wont have to worry too much with adapters. What camera do you film with?
A lot of the work I do delves with narrative filmmaking, no event videography or corporate videos. So the two lenses I use, with this adapter, for my work are the [Sigma 18-35 f/1.8] and [Sigma 50-150 f/2.8 OS ver.]
My first feature film was shot entirely on Rokinon Prime lenses (EF Mount + passive optical booster], and they were amazing but I felt we spent too much time swapping out lenses to get the right background/subject compression for or shots. So this prompted me to move over to zoom lenses, not so that I can be lazy and just zoom in, but so that my camera operators could get to the correct focal length I needed without having to change out the lens. Definitely gonna do a video about this topic in the near future.
Thanks again for stopping by! What kind of videos do you enjoy filming?
Like always, like before watching :D I wanted to know how the viltrox adapter looks after some months of usage. It seems holding pretty well.
I laughed for that unzip it sound xD
Hey hey again Maamoun!
Thank you so much for your support on this channel! This adapter has definitely held up and I have no reservations in using it and the sigma like a native M43 lens! Haha if I can find a funny moment to add into my videos, I will always go for it!
Thanks again!
Instead of using packaging tape, try to cut a plastic ring so strain is not only on one place.
Hey hey Max Headrom!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting!
That's a good idea. For me I placed the tape around in some parts to even it out.
Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
There are extremely mixed opinion on the sharpness of this adapter. Examples range from soft as a pudding to tack sharp. Some people also claim that II iteration is much better, than previous one (the one you have). Have you experienced any softnes when using it wide open and on wide angle?
Hey hey Pawel!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question!
I have not experienced much softness with my version 1. It's there for sure, but in the grand scheme of things for the work I do no one is going to notice at all. I had no problems with wide angle, wide open, all of it was in acceptable sharpness for film. However I don't really use the booster anymore on my Sigma 18-35, it is not on my Sigma 50-150. I detail this more in this video: th-cam.com/video/sbGurRoaBGg/w-d-xo.html
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Hey, love the videos and excited to check out your movie when it releases! On the Viltrox with sigma combo - does ibis work properly on the GH5? Does it require manual setup at all? Thanks!
Greetings S4A!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting!
"Maximillian" will hopefully be out sometime next year, my own personally feature film just got released on Amazon! I did a video for that here if you want to check it out: th-cam.com/video/lSoFmCGysso/w-d-xo.html
As for the Sigma and Viltrox combo, yes, the IBIS works flawlessly and you do not need to do any manually enter in any focal length data, just zoom the lens as you please and the IBIS knows exactly where you are and stabilizes for you!
Hope this helps! Thank you so much again for the kind words and stopping by in the comments section! Hope to see you again in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker thanks so much for the info! I've been on the fence about getting one with a sigma 18-35mm for a while now. It would be really nice to have a better shallow depth of field than my 12-35mm 2.8 can give. That's awesome that you have a film out - I'll check it out!
The extra depth of field is definitely nice as well as how well the camera captures light towards the sensor compared to the smaller Panasonic lens.
Definitely! It was a crazy 4 year process but extremely rewarding! If you do check it out and have time, feel free to leave a rating and review if you liked or hated the film!
Thanks again for engaging! Have fun!
@@TLDR_filmmaker thanks man! I'll try to check it out!
Nope, that's the way it works. 1.9 is a firmware supplied by Viltrox for only this issue. So if manual lenses is your work flow, then use 1.9 If you need lens control on an automated lens then you install 3.1 I have switched back and forth depending on the need. Your EF-M2 is not defective. Hopefully Viltrox or maybe Panasonic will address the issue. I understand that the Meta Bones adaptor works with manual or automatic lenes.
Hey Drumslapper!
Thanks again for the long engagement in the comments, hopefully either Panasonic or Viltrox will have the right solution to bring back everything in working order...sadly its probably more so up to Viltrox, I don't think Panasonic necessarily cares as much to fix that problem if it's an adapter they don't make. :(
I'm using the G7 with the same Viltrox and a Tamron 17-50. Zooming in on the lens causes the body/display to lock up and I have to eject the battery to reset.
This is a well known issue with the GH5 /Metabones combo as well, but people have found a workaround for it. Is there a similar fix for the viltrox?
Hey hey Joseph!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question!
I'm not sure what the workaround it between the Tamron and Metabones, I'm guess its probably the green mode thing? I'm not sure if the viltrox can do the same, I don't have a lens thats acting up where I could test it :(
Sorry I couldn't give you a definitive answer, thanks again for stopping by and I'll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker can you tell me what firmware version you're using for the Viltrox EF-M2? Is it the latest? Just want to rule that out as an issue on my end.
Hi, I have a question. I have a gh5 with a viltrox ef-m2 and a sigma 18-35. The problem I have is that I have lost control of the aperture, it does not react when I open or close it. I think I lost it when I changed my lens to a 75-300 of canon and when putting back the sigma no longer had control of opening. You would know how to fix it?
Greetings Juanma!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question!
I would first check the pins on the lens and adapter just to make sure its clear of anything that could have gotten into the way, one time I thought my adapter died as it showed 0.0 for aperture, when I dismounted the lens I saw something that was blocking one of the pins (not sure how it got there, but there it was)
Another thing to test is to see if the Adapter or the lens is damaged, if you have another EF camera or a friend that does, I would test the lenses aperture there to see whats going on.
Lastly, as a general note, it is not recommended to hotswap with active adapters because of how they have to translate and communicate a different mount lens to a different mount body. Unless you hotswap it from MFT mount, but even then probably not a good idea.
If it turns out the lenses are fine and the adapter for some reason no longer works. I would e-mail Viltrox to let them know and show them a cell phone video of how its not working. From what I heard they seem very responsive about everything, just be courteous and always calmly explain the situation.
Sorry I can't give any definitive answers, but I hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Hope to see you in the next one!
hi!
I'm having a problem with viltrox EF-M2 with Sigma 18-35.
I can't change the aperture from the camera for some reason.
what do I do?
Please help!!
Hey hey Lotpoti!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question!
Make sure your firmware for the EF-M2 and GH5 are up to date. If you are using a Nikon mount sigma 18-35mm thats adapted to EF so that you can get it to fit on the adapter. You will not be able to electronically control the lens as this setup does not allow the lens to talk to the camera through the adapter.
Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker thanks for replying!
I already updated the firmware of the camera and the adapter. the lens is of EF mount. still doesn't work. :(
Hmm.... thats weird. I'm not sure what could be wrong. I would suggest emailing Viltrox, they have been responsive in the past. Hope they can offer some advice.
I'm not sure if you can answer this, but would there be any downside to getting this adapter in Nikon mount with a Sigma 18-35 in Nikon mount? (I haven't bought either yet, but I noticed the Nikon versions seem to be a bit cheaper)
Hey hey Ki Rin!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! Yes, you won't be able to electronically talk to your GH5 camera meaning that IBIS will have to be manual set instead of it being automatic, you won't be able to use the lenses true iris blades, If you do some hobby photography as well, you won't be able to use AF because of the lack of electronics.
Generally speaking an EF mount more ideal as there are many lenses that's popular in that mount and, almost always, third party lens makers will always account for the EF mount market.
Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by and I'll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker Thank you for the advice. It seems like the EF mount is the better option.
You're most welcome!
Do you happen to have any other EF lenses besides the Sigma 18-35? I'm having a very strange problem with my Viltrox. It "disconnects" from my GH5 when I take a picture with autofocus on my Canon 70-200mm f/2.8 II and my Tamron 24-70mm f/2.8. What I mean by "disconnect" is that it will lose connection momentarily (like if I am twisting the lens off slightly), take the picture, and then "reconnect". Sometimes will lose the electronic connection completely (no AF/IS) so I'd have to flip the AF/MF switch on the lens to actually enable the AF/IS (or else turn on/off the camera). Other times it reconnects fine.
Hey CSF!
I just recently acquired the Sigma 50-150 2.8 OS version and it works perfectly with the Viltrox from AF, Aperture adjustments and IBIS. I have not had the experience where my viltrox disconnects.
I would try making sure the adapter and the GH5 firmwares are updated, and if the mounts feel loose to go ahead and try the clear tape method I showed in the video to keep the contacts from moving. If this doesn't help I would ask the seller or Viltrox for a replacement.
The only other thing I can think of is that Tamron traditionally has been weird with these smart adapters, even from metabones, there is some odd way its communicating EF data to the GH5 that either makes the lens not work correctly or the camera body to be confused.
Just got my Viltrox EF-M2 while waiting that the 18-35 arrives to me I used it with two lens of a my friend.
The used lens are Sigma 17-50 and Canon 50mm 1.4.
When mouting them to my Viltrox EF-M2 and G80 a message comes in the screen:" lens attachment failed".
I need help please! What should i do? Can I just send back the VIltrox and try with another one or is that a common issue with that adapter?
Help me fast please!!
Greetings MiglioriPc,
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question!
My apologies I couldn't get to your comment sooner but that is strange you are getting that error with the G80. I've been hearing more problems with lens attachments lately and I suspect it may have to do something with the most updated firmware for the Viltrox.
I personally am still on the 2nd firmware they issued and have no had any problems with electronic and manual lenses that other filmmakers are now starting to have. I would visit Viltrox website and download and install their older firmware 2.1 (I believe it was) and see if that helps.
Viltrox is also quite responsive from what I hear in their emails, so if that doesn't work I would let them know what your setup is so that they have the most information to work off of and hopefully address it in a future firmware update.
Hope this helps! Let the community know if going back to older firmware helps your situation!
Is this adapter compatible with Sigma Contemporary 16mm F1.4 DC DN Lens for Canon EF-M. I have a Panasonic G85 and I want to connect this lens to my camera using this viltrox EF-M2 adapter. Is this possible
Hey hey Jayasanka!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question!
No, this adapter is only for Canon EF (not EF-M) lenses, the Sigma Contemporary are already made for MFT mount, so the mounts are not the same. Also the lenses distance from the sensor are different. MFT is much closer than EF. So even if you were able to convert, the Sigma lens will never be able to focus because it is sitting so far away from the sensor, its not built to focus from that distance.
Hope this makes sense! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker Thank you so much for your clear explanation. Really appreciate it.
You're most welcome!
Will the viltrox work with the rokinon ds lenses? Or will I get the detached lens message that I get with other lenses that don’t have the gold connection.
Hey Sonic Palette!
Thank you so much for checking out the video and asking a question!
I just tried my Rokinons on the Viltrox as well as the Commlite AF speedbooster and the GH5 had no problems working with it. The part where the contacts would typically meet a lens is on the plastic portion of the rokinons lens instead of the metal mount, so all is good!
Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Check back every Wednesday for something new!
viltrox ef m2
lens attachment failed
gh5 panasonic ? ? ?
Greetings Arianevideo Inderan!
Thank you so much for checking out the video and asking a question!
What lens are you trying to use the viltrox with? If it's a full manual lens, you will want to block the electrical contact on the camera mount side of the viltrox with a clear piece of tap. The reason is because Panasonic recent firmware has changed something that makes the camera not recognize the viltrox. Viltrox, last I knew, are working on a firmware fix to compensate with the panasonics firmware.
Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Check back every Wednesday for something new!
Hi! I just bought this setup, GH5 with Sigma 18-35mm and Viltrox ef-m2. For some reason I'm getting some jello effect on my videos on wide angle mode (18mm) do u experience the same issue? Hope you can help me with this one, thanks!
Greeting Ralph!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question!
I do not get a jello effect in my videos at at the 18mm focal length, the only way I can do that is to force it to happen by wildly swinging my camera left to right as the GH5 does pretty well with the rolling shutter problem. Are you able to upload a youtube video for me to see if your Jello effect matching my experience with the GH5?
The Jello effect is technically not able to be stopped when you are on a CMOS sensor because of how it scans an image, there will always be a very slight Jello effect. The GH4 vs the GH5 is very night and day in terms of which one has the most jello effect. The GH5 by comparison almost looks like a Global Shutter compared to the GH4 and Sony A7 gen 1 and gen 2.
Let me know in a reply here when you upload a video for me to check!
TLDR Filmmaker Hi thanks for replying! I just uploaded a sample video m.th-cam.com/video/Rf1Wh-bK5Ks/w-d-xo.html
If you check the edges you’ll see what I was talking about especially at the last few seconds of the video. Let me know what you think!
How works ,,viltrox,, with direct front sunlight? The protective coating on internal lens works good or no?
Greetings Chaossenergy!
Thank you so much for checking out the video and commenting!
The internal lens coating is not that bad, I've shot directly at a window with the subjects in front with the Sigma 18-35. Because of the way it was shot and the style we were going for, the subjects were nice and contrast in the shot.
This will also be dependent on how well your actual lens handles direct light.
But as far as I can tell with my combination, it does well, only a certain angles you may lose contrast, but again it also depends on how well your actual lens handles direct light.
Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by!
Just received the Viltrox EF-M2 yesterday! What are some good lenses (exept for the Sigma 18-35 ofcourse :p) to buy? I am using it with the Panasonic GH5s. Nice video by the way as always!
I got sigma 18-35mm for my first lens to use with it, used my bros 50mm 1.8 and it works well too. I plan on getting the 50mm 1.4 and a wide lens , canon 10-20 or maybe tokina 11-16mm?
I just got mine and I’ve used it with a sigma 18-35 50-100, canon 70-200, canon 50, canon 24-70 and a wide tamron on my gh5. when I first got the Viltrox it did not work like the metabones, the fit wasn’t the same and the focus was way off, after adjusting it I’ve been quite happy with the results... it definitely kicks butt
Hey Mark!
So glad you were able to snag a Viltrox! Have fun with it and definitely share with the community any cool shots you get with it! As for what other lenses? It really depends on what kind of videos you enjoy filming, the sigma 18-35 pretty much gets you most of your shots for narrative work, but would probably not suffice for event videography.
@Jason Lindquist and @Fabio Destroyio, Thank you so much for chiming in guys! I love it when the community helps each other out! I'm currently trying to add the Sigma 50-100 into my setup, just haven't found a good deal yet, can't wait for the day when I get one.
I can really recommend the Canon 24-105 f/4.0. It has a great range and produces lovely pictures. And besides of the results: It looks great, espacially with the GH5S because of the red ring :-D They belong together! And the optical stabilisation is very welcome. Also the handling is very good in my opinion. Zooming, pulling focus... Finally i found an adapter and a lens for the Pana GH series which i can use for almost every situation.
Does the updated firmware fix the issue with the Canon 50mm 1.8? Great video! Thanks!
Hey hey Luis!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question!
I have not updated my firmware to any of the recent ones because everything for what I need is working, my GH5 is also on older firmware as well. I'm of the mindset "if its not broken, don't fix it". I don't really use the 50mm 1.8 (non STM version) for AF needs so I won't be updating my firmware anytime soon to check. However my suspicion is that it won't be fixed because the non-STM version was replaced by the STM version, i'm not sure if the STM version is ok with AF.
Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by and I'll see you in the next one!
I have the metabones Ultra for my GH5, but I'm thinking about buying the Viltrox M1 (non speedboosted with no glass) so I can double my focal range and have that as an option as well. For example my Canon 70-200 would become a 400mm at full. I am wondering your thoughts on optical quality of a FF lens (that was designed to be on a FF camera) cropped in like that on M43? Do you think the optical quality of the lens circle would still hold up well being double it's intended range? I know it's fine with the metabones ultra at around 284mm full zoom, so hopefully cropping in that extra "100" mm would hold up?
Hey hey again J T!
Thank you so much for checking out another video and commenting!
While a photographer may have a different opinion, I feel the lens should hold up just fine because we are forcing our sensor readouts into a 4k resolution instead of the full 20mpx image, and of course we're usually shooting something moving slightly so the motion blur will be taken into consideration.
For me sharpness I'm a little more lenient on when it comes to pixel peeping, the lens would need to have a pretty noticeable from the back LCD screen problem for me to consider it unuseable. I have an old vintage lens from an unheard brand and it won't get sharp no matter what as gives everyone a edge blur glow. Might be handy for a dream sequence, but definitely not for regular filming.
If you wanted, you could maybe get a cheap $10 dummy adapter off of Amazon and see how you like it and if the lens holds up for you, if it does then you can decide to get a M1 later and maybe scour ebay for a used deal, or of course purchase new.
Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by and I'll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker thanks so much for the helpful reply! Talk to ya soon my friend :)
You're most welcome!
Hi, is the link of ebay that u put in your description box legit? I just want to make sure because I'm very afraid of online shopping, especially I'm oversea, so I'm quite worry about the one I brought, I scared it will spoil when it's otw...
Hey Daren!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting!
Yes, I've ordered from Sharpest Light Limited directly before and I received my product well packaged and intact.
Hope this helps, let the community here know when you receive your adapter and what you think! Thanks again for stopping by and hope to see you again every Wednesdays!
thanks brother mines just came in the mail! im wondering do i have to set my camera settings to shoot w/o lens to make this work? im tryna use my sigma 18-35 on my gh4
Hey Kevin!
On my old GH4 I always had "Shoot w/o lens" turned on, and I left it that way. When I tested the Viltrox on my GH4, this option was still on and the Sigma worked. I'm not entirely sure if this option being "off" effects the performance of the lens with the viltrox, but I would just leave it "on" always. Hope this helps and enjoy this killer setup!
Hey buddy great video. I really love my viltrox but was surprised that I cannot use it with manual lenses unless I completely tape off the electrical contacts with electrical tape. This works for manual lenses but obviously my Sigma 18 to 35 no longer works. Have you tried with you're viltrox to shoot with manual lenses or does yours work? When I try to use manual lenses that tells me the Lynn is not functioning properly and I just get black screen
Greetings John!
Thank you so much for checking out the video and for the kind words! I'll definitely continue to do my best and put out fun meaningful content for filmmakers and aspiring filmmakers alike!
There seem's to be something going on in terms of people's Viltrox adapters not working when attaching a manual lens to it. For me I have no problems at all with my manual lenses except for the ones where the adapters are metal and jump the contacts on the adapters to look for a signal.
A couple things I've learned so far from other viewers commenting on my Viltrox videos. Viltrox is aware of the problem and have a very very temp fix, they are working on a more solid firmware to handle this. So make sure to check on their website often for a new firmware.
Second thing I found out that its most likely on Panasonics side of the problem, not Viltrox, in that in the recent firmwares from Panasonic has changed something. My GH5 is not on the newest firmware, its on 2.2 and my viltrox is on the older 2.1 firmware. With this combination I have no problems using my Manual lenses.
So long story short, Panasonic's firmware updates has done something different that originally was fine. Viltrox is aware of the problem and are working on it.
Another option you can do with your current temp fix is instead of taping over the electrical contacts on the adapter, see where the electronic contacts would hit on the mount of the manual lens and put a piece of tape over there instead. That way your manual lenses will be blocking the contacts and your Sigma 18-35 will be free to engage with the contacts.
Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by!
TLDR Filmmaker I think your right about it being on Panasonic's Side. I'm on the latest firmware. I'm also using the G9. It's not a huge deal as I've been shooting all manual lately anyways. Thanks for the response
You are most welcome! Hope Viltrox completes the new firmware update soon! I was so confused when all of the sudden every comment I got was about it not working with manual lenses.
Does this support canon ef-s lens cause I don't see them mentioning about that lens compatible
Greetings bhaghesh!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question!
If you are specifically using Canon EF-S mount lenses, it will not work because this mount design has a protrusion in the back that will hit the Viltrox's optic lens. Some people have gotten those lenses to fit by cutting off this protrusion, but you will be risking your lens by doing so.
The next confusion about this is lenses made by third parties like Sigma and Tokina and if their crop sensor lenses will work. Yes they will because they create these lenses with a EF mount instead of the EF-S mount, so when getting third party Canon lenses, they will mount to viltrox adapter just fine. However be aware of Tamron as their EF protocol is not quite the same and people have had problems with their lenses being adapter electronically.
Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by in the comments! Hope to see you in the next one every Wednesdays! (minus holiday weeks)
The Voltrox ef-m2 mount doesn't show up when I plug it in via USB.. I tried 3 different cables incase one was broken (but they're all new).. any suggestions? also, my55-250mm Canon lens doesn't fit (but my 50mm does).. any work arounds for this?
Hey fmrl productions!
Thank you so much for checking out the video and asking a question!
In terms of the USB, there apparently are many different types of cables that all have the same plug. You need a USB cable that allows both "Data Transfer" and deliver Power to the device so that the computer can see it. I think usually cellphone USB cables will work, I myself tried a couple different ones too to finally get one that was the right type.
As for the Canon 55-250mm, that lens is an EF-S mount, unfortunately Canon's own crop sensor lenses wont work on these adapter due to how Canon designed them. The reason third party crop sensor lenses work is because they all use the full EF mount instead of the weird EF-S mount :(
Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by!
thanks! that makes a ton of sense ;)
What about now? Would you get the Viltrox or Metabone if you buy it used? I am in that current situation 😊
Hey hey again KN film!
If you were to buy it used it would definitely depend on what kind of deal you can find. No doubt that Metabones has a faster firmware development team if problems arise, however Viltrox has not slacked in this department. They've actually continue to develop their firmware for this now 2+ year old adapter, most recently making sure that the adapter is working with BMPCC 4k and Z-Cam. So... to answer your question... I think I'd still save some money and get the Viltrox unless you come across a Metabones that's within $50 of the Viltrox. Hope this helps! See you in the next one!
TLDR Filmmaker Thanks for your reply. Currently I found a Viltrox at $123 and a Metabone at $462. Gear are a bit more expensive in Denmark. A new Metabone costs $955
Hi nice video ! do you know or find any good way to use manual lenses with the ef-m2 ? please let us know thanks !
Greetings Engaged Films!
Thank you so much for checking out the video and commenting!
It seems what has happened for some users is when they upgraded their GH5 or GH5s to the latest firmware, Panasonic changed something in the coding that now is confused when it searches for a manual lens through the Viltrox adapter. For me I am still on older firmware both on the GH5 and Viltrox so I do not have this problem.
Viltrox is aware of this problem and are working on a firmware to work alongside the newer Panasonic firmware. Until the, the easy temp fix is to place a piece of clear tape over the flat electrical contacts on the Viltrox adapter (camera body side) and that will cover it from the GH5/GH5s. At this point the GH5/GH5s will assume you just have a dummy adapter on and work as normal with your full manual lenses.
Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Check back every Wednesday for something new!
Do you know if continuous focus runs?
Hey hey Aser!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question!
It does allow for continuous focus on your EF lenses however the GH5 is not great with Video AF so its not going to perform as you would expect. I am not sure how well this adaptor will work on the GH6. I expect that Viltrox are working on a firmware to handle any hiccups when mounting it to a GH6.
Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
I have a question
if I attach the sigma 18-35 f1.8 on viltrox to gh5
so does the focal length becomes 12-24? i dont really know how to calculate this thing
like 18 x 0.71 and 35 x 0.71?? im sorry man hahahaha
Hey hey again Noob Bar Bar!
You are correct, it changes it to a 12-24mm. From there if you want to know the Full Frame Equivalent look, you take those numbers and multiply the crop factor of the GH5, 2x. So your FF equiv. is 24-48mm look.
@@TLDR_filmmaker thanks a lot man!
@@kevinspencer6187 You're most welcome!
Hey Kevin, I have some issues with my Viltrox Speedbooster. I got one but neither the autofocus nor the aputure control did work, so i sended it back and got a new one. This time everything seemed to work. I just had the typical issue with the infinity focus. So I turned the lens on the Viltrox and... tada... the autofocus does not work any longer. Even if I try to turn the viltrox back, it isn't working. Do you, or does anyone from your community now the solution or do I need to send it back?
Thanks in advance.
Ahhh yeah. I use the GH5 and the Canon 50mm f1.8 II and the sigma 70-300mm
Hey Ole Stork!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question!
Hmm... looking at my adapter, if I had to guess, if you screwed the optics too far down into the camera side, the optic would push up against the electronic contacts (the flat ones) on the adapter. If this was the case it could knock off the alignment or break from the connection the Pin shaped contacts on the lens side of the adapter.
When you mount the lenses and turn on the GH5, does the GH5 immediately ask you what your focal length is? And after you go past that menu the aperture just reads "zero"? If so, then that would definitely mean that the flat contacts are not making connection to the camera.
Perhaps try and unscrew the optics a tiny bit back the other direction and see if the adapter works again. Hopefully the contacts didn't break from each other.
Definitely let us know your findings, so sorry that you're having troubles with the first and second adapter :(
I just order this adapter and for some reason, it doesn't work with my Canon 50mm F1.4 while using a BMPCC. I try Other canon EF glass from Sigma and they worked. On the Canon 50mm I don't get Aperture control or Focus. Any tips or advice? If it continues to be an issue I'm just going to spend the extra $400 on a Metaboone since I'm planning to get the upgraded BMPCC 4K
By the way when I first attached the 50mm the autofocus jumped around and thats about it.
Hey KenslyFresh!
Thank you so much for checking out a video and asking a question!
There are two things I can think of to try.
1) Go to viltrox's website and download their latest firmware for the EM2
2) Do a quick google search "Viltrox EF-M2 and BMPCC" I recalled reading that you had to do something like turn on the BMPCC with the adapter without a lens and then mount the lens and then the aperture will work. It was a odd sequence that someone said and it worked. Basically what they said was that the BMPCC wasn't contacting through the adapter correctly upon start up sequence, so you had to trick it.
As for the AF jumping around, my Canon 50mm 1.8 does the same thing. With older lenses and different motor focusing technologies, I don't think this adapter has the profiles for the camera, so it'll basically miss focus every time. All my sigmas New gen and old gen (circa 2012) have no problems working through the Viltrox as well.
Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by!
does this works with bmpcc4k
Hey hey Mukul!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting!
While I do not have a BMPCC4k to personally test the adapter, I have heard that the adapter works on the BMPCC4k. Most likely the aperture adjustments will work fine, initial AF through the lens could have mixed results. In general, just having aperture control of a EF lens is what I would use it for.
Thanks again for stopping by and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey TLDR Filmmaker - what focus ring do you use around your lens?
Hey hey again Polaris!
Its been awhile, thanks for checking out another video!
The lens gears I attached are these: amzn.to/2oX01bc (affiliate link)
I like these because they are thicker than the usual lens gears you find, they are made of a hard plastic instead of rubber, and its almost seamless (not quite but close). I will be the first to admit that they are pricy for what they are, but I've used them on all my Rokinon's and Sigma and like the feel when I'm pulling focus manually.
Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by!
Received mine yesterday and it’s going back on Monday. I have the Canon M50 with a Canon 10-18 EFS and Tamron 18-200 vcll., I was hoping to use...The 10-18 DOES NOT FIT the Vitrox. THE Tamron does but the vignetting is horrible. Then after watching and reading about the firmware update, it was a fail even after trying 2 different laptops and 4-5 different USB CABLES,
Bottom line, it’s heading back to the vendor. I had so hoped it would work.
Respectfully yours.
Greetings BirdogEd!
Thank you so much for checking out and commenting. Here are the reasons why you are experiencing some problems with the adapter.
The Canon 10-18 won't fit because Canon branded EFS lenses adds an extra piece of plastic that sticks out and it hits the booster optics. Third party lenses generally won't have this problem because they use the EF mount instead.
The reason the Tamron 18-200 is vignetting like crazy is because its a APS-C crop sensor lens which means it was made for the M50 sensor size already. By adding the booster you are making the image circle even smaller on your M50, this is why you see the vignette. You need to use a full frame lens so that you do not get a vignette.
I'm not sure about the failed USB update, I know I used two different cables, a USB Cable that went into a smartphone worked for me because those cables are capable of transferring data and power. It's weird how those USB cables are not made the same :/
Sorry I couldn't give any good news, but if you want to adapt those lenses to the M50, you will need the Viltrox Adapter that DOES NOT have the BOOSTER optics. Hope the vendor will make the transaction smooth for your return process.
TLDR Filmmaker
Yes Sir, I have an M50 for the body and the Viltrox adaptor connected to it fine. Then I screwed down the glass in the adapter with a latex glove as far as it would turn, as you recommended. Then, I attempted to mount my Canon 10-18 EFS lens with NO success. The next lens was my Tamron 18-200 and while it fit, you would see a dark online in the view finder and back screen as though looking through a round hole.
The vendor I purchased the adapter from on Amazon is taking it back with no problem, the only thing is they did not list which lenses fit and which did not and what the outcome would be with those lenses. When I went over to the Viltrox page on Amazon ,they have a Camera lens fitment list but you can’t zoom in on it and it’s printed so small you can’t see it… At least not on my iPhone.
Thank you for the kind reply!
You are most welcome. Glad the Vendor is taking it back!
Just remember, because the lenses you have are already meant for the M50's sensor size that buying a booster adapter won't work, you need to by the non-boosted viltrox adapter for it to work on the mirrorless body. If you buy a full frame lens, then it will work with the adapter you bought and be able to zoom.
Are there any adapters to connect to the 12-35mm for better low light?
Greetings Breadshots!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question!
Unfortunately due to how lenses are built it is not possible to take a native lens and further boosting, boosters only work for lenses with the following criterias:
1) The lens you want to use projects an image circle that is larger than the MFT sensor. MFT lens will obviously only cover a MFT sensor. So if you were somehow able to booster it, it will make the circle smaller than the censor and you end up with a circle in your video.
2) The lens also needs to come from a system where its flange (distance from sensor) is greater than the native MFT system. This is the only way a booster can be used on older DSLR lenses because the flange distance is much greater than a Mirrorless lens. So since a mirrorless lens is already at the correct flange distance, increasing it won't be any help.
On an off note theory, I have a feeling in the next two generations of cameras, ISO performance is going to be so good due to advancements in technology that standard 2.8 zoom lenses will no longer be a problem for the GH systems. We're slowly getting to that point, and when we get there, the question for lens choices will be how shallow of a depth of field do you want in your work. Exciting time!
Thank you so much for stopping by, and I'll see you in the next one!
Mine is too tight to attach to my Sigma 18-35mm. I can get it on if I really force it but I thought I was never going to get it off the lens. Does anyone know how I can fix it or why this is? Seeing 50% of people say yes to 18-35 and 50% say no? Works ok on my Canon 50mm 1.4, and Tamron 17-50 2.8 (non VC).
Hey David!
Thank you so much for checking out the video and commenting!
That is odd that its tight on the Sigma, but not tight on the Canon and Tamron.
Would you say the Canon and Tamron feel oddly loose or just about right?
If it feels right, then it leads me to believe that it could potentially be on the Sigma lenses side as generally all the Sigma's I've used on this booster have fit just like any other official Canon or Third Party EF lens.
The Canon & Tamron feel like a regular camera mount but the Sigma is so tight. So it must be my 18-35 :( I have a friend with the Metabones, I might try and see if that mounts to my 18-35 and may end up having to get one if that's the case.
Try this and lets see if we can narrow down the possible problems. Take a level profile view of your Sigma lens mount with either the Canon or Tamron on level next to it. Theres that little lip that kinda juts out that locks onto the cameras female mount. I'm wondering if the Sigma's lip is a little bit flared towards the front element, if it is compared to the Tamron and Canon, then that would explain why its so hard to mount onto the Viltrox Adapter because its scrapping really hard on the understand of the female lens mount on the Viltrox.
If this happens to be the case and you can clearly see it in the photo, Sigma may possibly replace it for you?
Hope this makes sense and hope we can narrow down some solutions.
I never even considered that but the black flange around the electronics is actually 0.4mm larger on the 18-35. They all work on my 60D so the lens isn't faulty. You never want to force anything on a camera and that's what it feels like so I may not use it on that lens. Thanks for your help!
Just wanted to ask if you noticed a strange motor sound in continuous AF, when using the GH5+Viltrox+Sigma 18-35mm combo. Its quite loud, and the shotgun mic picks it.
Thanks, keep up with the great videos!!
Hey Criatura!
Thank you so much for the kind words, checking out the video, and asking a question! Unfortunately I feel there is no way for our Sigma 18-35 lenses to have near silent continuous AF because of a couple things.
1) The lens was not originally built for silent Continuous AF, so the way the EF protocol is talking to the adapter and then to the camera body comes in "stepping" form instead of a smooth transition focus.
2) The motor technology isn't a fly-by-wire system like a Canon STM focusing lens. I'm not entirely sure if a STM lens would fair better in continuous AF mode, but it might be more silent than an HSM lens.
The only thing I can think of is to use a Wired or Wireless Lav mic depending on how you use your camera and the subjects you film, or to perhaps invest in a native Panasonic lens for silent AF.
The new GH5 firmware thats coming at the end of this month supposedly enhances the Continuous AF in video mode, I will hopefully do some tests to see how well its improved even though I don't use this feature.
Hope this helps!
Im really grateful for your answer! You are the best! Great answer, like “GH5- The Manual of Wisdom” type of answer!! Continue with your great work!!
Thank you so much again for the kind words! I will continue to do my best and put out fun meaningful videos along with information that helps filmmakers and aspiring filmmakers alike! Be sure to check back every Wednesday for something new! Until then, have an awesome week and I'll see you all in the next one!
Does it vignette with the sigma 18-35 when shooting photos?
Hey hey Jor!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! In terms of the GH5 sensor, and probably more so on the GH5S, there is an ever so slight vignette, nothing that can't be fixed with lightroom. But if you have a pretty bright scene, the vignette isn't really that noticeable. All and all since I only use this sensor in 16:9 ratio, I don't notice it at all in my work, If you photograph in 4:3 the vignette will probably be a little more noticeable on the wider angle. On a different note since about a couple months ago, I have stopped using this boosted adapter and switched over to the non-boosted adapter for my Sigma 18-35, not because the adapter doesn't work well, but because I've realized I really don't need the wider look and the extra stop of light.
Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by and I'll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker I've never seen anyone reviewed the sigma 18-35 with speed booster using a 4:3 ratio. Thanks for the tip!
You're most welcome!
Does this speed booster work on canon STM ef-s and ef lenses? Autofocus smooth? I have gh4 and canon m50 :)
Greetings Phuoc Vu!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question!
EF-S lenses will not work with this adapter because of the way canon designed their EF-S lenses, it will hit the glass in the adapter. STM lenses i've heard works, but I don't personally have a STM lens to try it out. As for Autofocus, the GH system is not great at it in general for video, so I wouldn't count on it for video focus. If you're talking about Photography focus, it does a pretty good job with my Sigma lenses for slow moving or still subjects. However photography AF performance depends on what lens you use the adapter with, my old Canon 50mm 1.8 version 1 will not AF no matter what. Until Viltrox includes the lens profile into the firmware, the AF will not get focus.
You'll want to check out Viltrox's lens compatibility sheet to see if your lens is on there. My Sigma lenses technically are not on the list, but because Sigma's internal chip works nearly like canon's chips, my Viltrox has been able to get focus for photography!
Hope this helps! Remember that Viltrox has two different adapters for the GH4 and the Canon m50. I noticed a lot of people are getting the wrong adapters for the cameras because the model numbers look very similar.
Thanks again for stopping by and I'll see you in the next one!
TLDR Filmmaker oh thanks for the reply! Love your videosn
You're most welcome!
how much force did you have to put into it while turning to adjust infinity focus? With mine I can turn it but at some Point it gets quite hard to turn any further. However, infinity Focus can still not be reached under about 32mm. Does anybody know why this could be? I am using a GH4 with a Sigma 17-50mm
Hey hey again Mats!
I turned the optics to the point where I couldn't turn it further. While its not perfect, I can see reach infinity focus in the "beyond infinity focus" area of the lenses marking. While not ideal, I was able to reach it.
That's very odd you're not able to reach infinity focus under 32mm, but can above it. When you're at, say 50mm on your lens, what part of the lens focus markings do you achieve infinity focus? Is it on that flat line part of the infinity L logo that I show in the video? Or is it before it, closer to the feet/meter markings?
Hey again!
I reach infinity Focus before the mark. when I set the lens to infinity Focus at 17 mm I can zoom in to 32 mm to reach infinity. It goes beyond infinity afterwards. I don´t really understand it either :(
Hmm...if you reach infinity before the mark, the you might actually have to rotate the optics counter clockwise when looking at the optic from where the lens mounts onto the adapter. For me I had the opposite problem, my infinity wouldn't hit until further on the back end in "beyond infinity focus" territory, so when I screwed it clockwise, it got it closer to the infinity mark. Perhaps give that a try and see if you can nail it!
Hi, i have the same setup as you, but i can't use sigma 17-50. If i turn the lens all the way i receive this message: 'Lens attachment failed, please make sure the lens is attached correctly'. So, have you done anything to it to make it work? Sorry for my english
adan co I did not see an error like that, sorry :( Have you updated the firmware?
Nice video.
I have the gh2 panasonic and sigma 17-50 2.8(canon mount) i have a cheap adapter for my gh2
so when i shooting with sun i have problem with f stop it all burn... .also with this adapter i can t have stabilizer and autofocus. .
So you think with viltrox adapter it will be ok these things?thank you
Greetings Antonis!
While I can't speak for the GH2, a user on a different video of mine confirmed that the Viltrox and his Sigma 17-50 worked with his G7, aperture, stabilizer and AF. Hopefully someone will be able to chime in if they've used the Viltrox on a GH2. Sorry I can't give a definitive answer :(
Really happy to see that it works for the 17-50, that's still my go to. I'll be using this with a G85 though. Any word on the Tokina 11-16?
Hey Kevin!
Thank you so much for checking out the video and going through the comment section!
As far as this adapter goes, some people on other forums have confirmed that the Tokina 11-16 works in terms of changing its aperture, not sure about IBIS though. Hopefully someone here can chime in on that!
I have the Gh4, Viltrox Ef-M2, Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8 Pro DX II and it works, you can change aperture and autofocus which i don't use because it's loud. However i also have the sigma 17-50 and i'm receiving a message when i'm trying to attach it: 'Lens attachment failed, please make sure the lens is attached correctly'. Thinking about getting Sigma 18-35.
Is anyone having a problem with the Viltrox EF M2 and the GH4 it keeps saying lens attachment failed and wont show a picture/
Hey Film Mongers!
I replied back in the long comment thread, but just incase. Yes my GH4 works with this adapter with a manual focus lens and electronic lens.
GH4 Body Firmware: 2.3
Viltrox Firmware: 2.2
Hope this helps!
Thanks again for engaging in that longer thread and relaying information to others!
Thank you for the reply. I'll just assume I have a faulty adapter, I have emailed the seller and I'm in the process of getting a replacement hopefully
I hope you get a replacement as well, definitely let the community know if the replacement adapter solves the issue!
Hi, i have this setup. I'm getting same message with Sigma 17-50, but it works with Tokina 11-16mm f2/8 Pro DX II.
dude..hope u will reply and share ur experience with me..im just got this setup like u..and the setup was so heavy coz of the sigma lens i think..im wondering..does the weight of the lens will have bad effect for short or long terms in camera body,viltrox of lens connector??
Greetings Syafiq Amir!
Thank you so much for checking out the video and commenting!
I've used this lens on my GH4 and GH5 for a few years now and I don't feel its damaged the camera lens mount at all. With heavier lenses like a full frame 70-200 you may want to have some support for that, but usually that's not a problem because they have a lens collar. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Check back every Wednesday for something new!
thanks you sir for fast response..yeah im always watching ur stuff..one more thing..i have this combo with sigma 18-35..and have infinity focus problem..i already turn infornt of viltrox to clockwise..but can’t get the infinity focus..u got any tips?
thanks you sir for fast response..yeah im always watching ur stuff..one more thing..i have this combo with sigma 18-35..and have infinity focus problem..i already turn infornt of viltrox to clockwise..but can’t get the infinity focus..u got any tips?
thanks you sir for fast response..yeah im always watching ur stuff..one more thing..i have this combo with sigma 18-35..and have infinity focus problem..i already turn infornt of viltrox to clockwise..but can’t get the infinity focus..u got any tips?
Unfortunately rotating the element inside is the only thing that can be done at this time. I must have been lucky with the adapter I got as I have not had any problems with focusing to infinity. It may be different with everyone but perhaps try rotating the element in the other direction to see if it gets you closer. I suggest this because other users here report that their infinity focus hits in a different spot than mine. Hope this helps!
Great video! I’ve seen videos where people have used manual lenses on the viltrox, but I’ve had no luck. When ever I use my manual lenses I get “no lens attached”. I’ve checked shoot without lens is on, but no joy. Any ideas?? Thanks.
Greetings James!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question!
The quick answer is to put a piece of clear tape on the Viltrox's flat contact side (the side facing the camera sensor)
I have no problems with manual lenses on my Viltrox because I have not updated to any of the newer firmwares on my GH5 and Viltrox. Somewhere along the line, Panasonic changed their way of interpreting a manual or electronic lens. Since the Viltrox is electronic, this confuses the GH5 as its reading the contacts but then there is no signal coming from the Viltrox to Manual lens contacts.
Last I heard, Viltrox is aware of this problem and have been working on a firmware solution on their end to accommodate the new Panasonic GH5 firmware.
Hope this helps! Thank you again for stopping by in the comments! Hope to see you in the next one every Wednesdays!
Thanks for your reply! I hope Viltrox can fix this issue soon. Keep the videos coming :)
You are most welcome! I hope Viltrox can too, was the clear tape blocking the contacts able to work for you and your manual lenses for the time being?
Viltrox have also suggested the tape fix. I'll get on that ASAP and let you know!
I have noticed Viltrox has way smaller lens compatibility list than Metabones. Please write them e-mails if your particular lens does not work with the adapter. Maybe they will fix the issues. I've already reported issues with many EF-S lenses, even though these aren't oficially compatible, I'd still love to see some progress there. For example, Metabones Speedbooster is working fine with Canon EF-S 10-18mm. This particular lens is interesting because it is the cheapest AF and IS ultra wide angle lens out there. Please just let them know you want your lens to be compatible with their adapter! @TLDR Filmmaker - you should also send them this video, maybe they will fix Sigma 18-35 auto focus issues.
Hey Maciej!
In my first video I talk about how Metabone's, while expensive, will most likely beat out Viltrox in terms of Firmware updates. I believe they have a much larger team of people doing the coding for their adapters. Viltrox will be behind, but I also have a suspicion that they could be re-engineering the code from Metabones for the Viltrox. For now we'll have to see how well viltrox responds after the adapter has been out for one year, because they are selling so well, they may actually dedicate more resources to the longevity of this adapter.
do you know if the ef-s 10-18 is still not compatible? i dont want ot mod it if it is not working
The 10-18 ef-s is working now
That's awesome news, Jakob! Thank you so much for sharing the info for other filmmakers that may want to use this setup!
can this handle sigma 50-100? hear about freezes
Greetings Jeremy!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question!
While I don't have the Sigma 50-100 personally (I have the old 50-150), this adapter shouldn't have a problem. The recent problems that viewers asked me about was more for their manual lenses that have no electronic contacts. I have yet to update my GH5 to v2.3 and my Viltrox is still on v2.1, Panasonic did something in v2.3 that now confuses itself when it has a electronic adapter on with a manual lens. Viltrox is aware of that problem and are working to fix it. Until then a clear piece of tape over the Viltrox's Camera side flat contacts will do the trick and allow you to use your manual lenses with the Viltrox Optics.
That being said, I don't think the Sigma 50-100 should have a problem. Sigma's protocols have all been very close to Canon so their lenses have worked with adapters quite well. If there is a problem, I would first see if the Viltrox needs to update its firmware, if the mount needs to be tightened with some tape on the camera side to ensure it doesn't wiggle, and very lastly to get a replacement if there is a problem with the adapter.
Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Hope to see you in the next one every Wednesday!
have you tried this with the Rokinon 50mm DS lens? I'm getting an error saying lens fails to connect. I've tried taping over the connection pins but still no luck.
Scott Bell Visuals , yup same here this is an issue. I've discussed this with Viltrox and they indicated that a firmware update for manual lenses is in the works. The real solution is with Pansonic to update their firmware to override the error.
They got back to me via email and sent me this manual lens firmware. It does work, unfortunately it doesn't support automatic lens at the same time. Not really a solution but if you work with all manual lens, here is a link to the file they sent me. www.dropbox.com/s/jmpzi599epipfmt/Viltrox1.9.rar?dl=0
Thanks Scott, that worked but not a great solution. Panasonic needs to update their firmware for a no lens override when the EF-M2 is used with non electronic lenes.
drumslapper yeah I agree, but not sure how likely that is. Metabones works fine with full manual lenses.
Agreed, I have switched firmwares back and forth with no problems except the hassle. Mostly manual lenses here but occasionally need some automation. I'm not sure many purchasers realize this limitation. I'm sure it will limit sales if it's not resolved.
Will this adapter work for the GH5S?
Hey Sean!
While I don't have a GH5s to give a definitive answer, there shouldn't be any reason this adapter wont work since both the GH5 and GH5s are of the same generation and mount protocol. When it comes to changing the aperture on the lens, this adapter shouldn't have any problems. Where it may differ is if you're wanting to use this adapter for photography or continuous AF in video mode, thats where it will be more dependent on the lens you choose to pair it with. Hope this helps!
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Oh, i like you, bro :D
Hey JS!
Awww man you caught me! haha!
I think some stock is finally coming to vendors again!
Thanks for the kind words and checking out the video! I'll do my best to continue making fun educational and information videos!
Quality control doesn't matter. Materials and employees cost a lot more in Canada, and Viltrox has done basically ZERO marketing and advertisement. Why do you think Apple and other luxury brands have expensive prices, it's not manufacturing or quality control (many Chinese phones are better). It's all the marketing and billboards and ads and events and physical stores.
As of today, this can be found on Amazon. EDIT: Thanks to you I will be getting this adapter.
Awesome! Hope this adapter will get into more filmmakers hands, I still can't believe how well it works at 1/3 of the price to the Metabones!
This was a huge find for me. I am an aspiring film maker, and saving this amount of money to expand my lens choices is HUGE. Thanks again for posting this.
Metabones is unreasonably expensive. Being greedy can be the only reason.
That said I have now read pretty bad things about the Viltox M2 ii too from long time users.
Hey hey AlphaCentauri24!
Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting!
It really is expensive, Kipon is kind of up there too, but not as bad, I just wished the Kipon Firmware team was faster like Viltrox. That being said, what have you heard about the EF-M2 II version? I have the Mark 1 version and still use it to this day without any problems, I don't think the Mark 2 was any different except for maybe updated optical coating from newer batches of the Metabones optics.
Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Not sure if I've posted on one of your videos or not (sorry if I have!) but I seem to be having issues with my EF-M2 and Canon lenses, such as the 85 1.8 and 50 1.8 with autofocus. It will hunt for a second, then give up. Autofocus works fantastically on my Sigma 18-35 and Tokina 11-16, so I'm not really sure what's going on. I know my G85's firmware is up to date, but I'll check the Viltrox again tonight. Hopefully someone has had this issue and can give some advice on it!
Hey hey again Casey!
I remember you posting before, but it wasn't in regards to the 50mm and 85mm Autofocus performance with the Viltrox. Unfortunately you're not alone, I have an older 50mm 1.8 (non STM version) and mine does the same thing where it wont achieve focus. I think it has something to do with when those lenses were made and for what type AF system they were made for, so when the focus data is being converted through the adapter its not reading the way it needs for the GH5 to understand. Not sure if thats true, just my thoughts on why it may not work. I generally say these adapters are just for videographers that need to change aperture and use IBIS on the MFT cameras, I wouldn't count on these to replace native lenses for photographer where AF is needed :(
That being said, its all up to Viltrox if they will develop the firmware update to accommodate for these older lenses.
Just now saw this. Thanks for the reply! I just updated to 3.0 hoping it would help, but as I predicted, it did not. lol What you said makes sense, so I might try a few other lenses around a similar focal length to see if autofocus works with those. If not, I might sell the 85 1.8 and go for the Rokinon 85 1.4. If I can't use autofocus, I might as well gain a stop of light, right? haha
You are most welcome! Never hurts to have an extra stop of light haha!
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It's likely hit and miss as to whether a lens will work with these adapters. With my Tamron 90mm macro mounted on the Viltrox the camera would say, "This lens is unsupported." On the Metabones XL 0.64x it works just fine.
Just got my viltrox ef-m2 yesterday. The back lens (lens closer to the sensor) a bit wobble. If i shake the adaptor, lense wobbling a bit. Is it normal? I can't test it with lens because my lens not arrived yet. Thx for sharing
Hey Kotak!
Mine was a little loose too, simply do the "infinity focus fix" that I described in this video and it will tighten it up and should get you to infinity focus as well when your lens arrives. Hope this helps!
TLDR Filmmaker thx. It works. No more wobbling part. Cant wait to test it with canon lens. 👌
You're very welcome! What canon lens will you be pairing it with? Let me and everyone here know how you like it when you get to play with it some more! Have fun!
TLDR Filmmaker not the canon brand. will be using yongnuo 85mm 1.8 (canon mount). Hope it will work. On yongnuo's website, they compatible list only for yongnuo 50mm 1.8.
I hope so too. I would guess that Aperture and IBIS should work because that information, I believe, is standard to pass through the Viltrox. If you're using it for photography with AutoFocus, that could be a different story. Definitely let the community here know if the lens works for you. Hope it does!
Hey!! I was wondering if the Viltrox EF-M2 work with the new GX9? Can you please do a test about it? Or of anyone who has already done it can let me know..
Hey Ali!
Someone yesterday asked that very question yesterday! I wish I have an answer, but unfortunately I don't have a GX9 to test and no one has commented yet if they've tried. I would assume the adapter will work in terms of aperture control and IBIS with most lenses, however the AF performance would be up in the air. But in all honesty, if you want to do more with photography, I would invest in native lenses for the best performance. Sorry I couldn't give you a 100% answer, hopefully someone will be able to chime in!
Thanks again for checking out the video!
TLDR Filmmaker hey! Thank you so much for answering though, most content creators wont even consider :P anyhow, if I had to go for a lens with the GX9 for semi-pro/pro photography (this'll be my first M43, moving from a Nikon D7200) what native lens should I go for? I'm pretty much a bokeh hungry guy and as far as I've done my research, M43 offers a bit less bokeh than either FF or APS-C. Also what do you think about the Sigma 30mm f/1.4 DN DC lens for M43?
Sorry for throwing a truck load of questions on you. I get pretty hyped up by photography!
Not a problem Ali! What kind of photography do you do the most? The sigma 30 is a beautiful lens, my friend has it and I use it sometimes for shoots. It's sharp and gives you a nice bokeh when wide open. It's a nice between a normal and portrait focal length and not as expensive as the Panasonic 42.5mm 1.4.
TLDR Filmmaker I'm a portraiture kinda guy. Because I live right in the middle of the city, so I don't have much of a luck getting landscapes. Although I love landscapes. I do it when I'm off abroad or so. And also by your words I now feel pretty confident about the Sigma 30mm f1.4. I was also intimidated by the Panaleica 25mm f1.4 but quite a few people told me that it's less sharper, approximately $200 more expensive and the extra 10mm on the Sigma will give me better subject isolation. So maybe my new go-to will be the Sigma.
I don't think you will be disappointed with the Sigma 30mm for your current needs. You can always upgrade later on and sell the Sigma to offset the cost. Thats what I love about lenses, their resale value is generally pretty good when you decide to upgrade! As far as other options go for the future, I would also look at the Olympus Pro line of Primes with f/1.2. They are really expensive for MFT lenses, however I feel Olympus has a better portrait glass in how they craft the image and colors, you may want to look into those for the future when you're ready to upgrade! Hope this helps!
Had a Viltrox and sold it. The MB is costly, thats for sure, but it blows away the Viltrox it definitly more sharp and the autofocus "just works", no need to hack / set weird stuff on the GH5. Clip it and use it.
Hey Huexley!
I don't disagree with you, ever since Metabones was able to launch more generations after its Gen1 adapter, they've definitely began to tighten down their QC from the manufacturers and have a cracking code developer team for firmware updates! The sharpness from my copy is pretty sharp and I have not had any complaints from the director of the film samples I showed in this weeks episode.
That being said I was really only searching for an adapter that allowed Aperture and IBIS control with my GH5, the Kipons did not work and the speedbooster versions from Kipon were not acceptable compared to the Viltrox and Metabones. When all's said and done, I'm very happy with the Viltrox for narrative filmmaking, photography would be a completely different story.
Thank you so much for checking out the video and commenting!
As you pointed it out, every review I can see with the viltrox is mainly focused on using it for small clips or vlogging.
I believe the director will be releasing the full trailer this month, I've seen the first assembled cut and many of the shots were done with the viltrox. I'll definitely be making a part three of this Viltrox series to show people some narrative film results and talk more about how its been performing from shot to shot!
I also had the Viltrox, sold it, and bought the Metabones XL 0.64x. Much happier with the Metabones. It performs better and generates much more confidence in itself than the Viltrox.
Just bought the viltrox and used it this past weekend with a tamron 17-50mm f2.8. Used it on a 20min wedding ceremony outdoors and it worked great! best $120 I have spent in a while
uh-oh. I paid about 130 bucks for my viltrox from ebay. Do you think it's a dud?
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This adapter has been around for almost a year now and it has decreased in price over time, I've seen some trusted sellers on Ebay and Amazon Prime have gone as low as $150. Do you recall if you bought the non-speedboosted version? Those were usually about $130 USD.
Hopefully its not a dud, if you got the speedboosted version for $130, that's definitely a steal!
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Ohhhh $h!t... well... I can't take a pic and upload it, so I'll describe my packaging if that helps. Okay. It came in a white box with a red/reddish interior. The actual mount comes inside of this gray case, almost like that of an engagement ring. I have a gray screw driver as well. An a hex key. There's a paper band that fits around the box (the white one, not the gray one) and on the side it reads: Compatible lenses: Canon EF series. Compatible cameras: M43. Focus mode: Auto Focus. Focal length multiplier: 0.71x. Optical glass: 4 groups, 5 glasses. Firmware update: USB upgrade port. Tripod socket: Cu1/4"x1. Diameter and length: 67mm x 20mm. Weight: Approx. 118g (excluding cap). Front cap: Camera cover. Rear cap: Lens dust cap. On the back: "Viltrox EF-M2 Auto Focus Mount Adapter. Viltrox EF-M2 mount adapter is designed to allow Canon EF-mount series lenses to be used on M43 cameras. Plus 0.71 based on the original focal length (equivalent focal length = focal length x 0.71), which helps increase 1 stop aperture. Build-in 4 groups, 5 pcs optical glasses, By adapter mounting it can achieve functions of EXIF signal transmission, AF (autofocus) and aperture adjustment, etc. Firmware upgrade can be operated via the USB port." lol. I can't believe I wrote all of that, but, I trust and value your insight so whatever details I can give you for a more accurate answer, the better. Thank you for responding by the way. I look forward to watching you grow as a filmmaker, DP, and rise to the ranks of being a DGA director or ASC cinematographer. Keep on rockin'. Thank you good sir!
The packaging as you describe matches mine. I think you basically got one hell of a deal because I don't think anyone sells them at their full original retail price any more.
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I bought this zhongyi booster yesterday. Totally manual for totally manual lenses.
Now I haz unleashing teh truu powerz of helios and mir1b lenses..
I HAZ TEH POWAAAAAA...
#me-man
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The Zhongyi passive booster is legit! I'm eventually gonna get me a set of Canon FD primes and will be going with their booster for that kit!
You Haz Teh POWAAA!! lol
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I paid right at $100 (U.S. Dollars) online for a new copy of this focal reducer. I am quite happy with it. All of my Canon EF glass doesn't function equally well with the Viltrox but, for the lenses that it does work with, it does quite a nice job both in auto focus and image quality...
As an example, it works just fine with my 70-200mm f/4L IS lens on my A6400 but doesn't work at all with some of my older EF lenses like the 100mm f/2.8 (non-L) macro lens...
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Oh man I am so jealous you got it at $100, I jumped on super early during the first production run at $218, MFT version though. I hear ya, most of my Sigma EF lenses from last gen and current ART gen is fine, my classic Canon 50mm 1.8 version 1 (non-stm) cannot AF, but IBIS and Aperture works just fine (Which is all I want)
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Are you related to Grant from Myth Busters?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grant_Imahara
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Haha you are not the first one to ask that question! I'll admit I have some resemblance, though a good few inches taller, but unfortunately I am not related to Mr. Imahara.
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Don't be scared of Chinese sellers, I've always gotten great products from them and I've never paid import taxes. The Viltrox EF-M2 costs $125 on Ebay, and that's from the best rated seller...
B&H and Amazon sellers are taking their profit...don't buy this SB for more than $150!!!
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I'm not sure if you were responding to another person's comment, but yes, I agree with it all. All these things are coming from the same factory, the only difference is what firmware is being used.
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Bullshit, tons of these crappy Metabones ripoffs all over.
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I don't disagree, I've tried Kipon, Commlite, and yes even a Metabones. The Metabones I ultimately returned because it burned two of my lenses aperture motors as well as scraped/loosley bent the metal mounts on my EF lenses. The Kipon's optic clouded any lens you put in front of it, no matter how far down I stopped the optics couldn't product sharp edges, also focal length data was not transmitted so the GH5 IBIS did not work, I returned it and realized they never updated their firmware for over a year when I already got the Viltrox. The Commlite is not too bad and actually pretty acceptable, but if I were to be nitpicky, their optic wasn't as sharp as the Viltrox and they don't seem up to update their firmware as often as Viltrox does (and still is currently doing)
Is the Viltrox perfect, its pretty close, the only thing I will gripe about it is that the mount is not as tight as I would like to feel when I twist it onto the camera body, but other than that I have no complaints. For the money I spent and the amount of things I've filmed with it and got exactly what I wanted, this has been a money saver against the Metabones.
That all being said, it really comes down to the latter, no one ever asked what adapter I shot with, the directors never asked me what adapter I shot with for their own feature films. I got exactly what they wanted and this adapter allowed me to use my Sigma 18-35 with my GH5 as well as my Sigma 50-150mm 2.8. We can all sit here and say metabones is better and worth the extra $450 USD. But to me, it isn't, because at the end of the day no one asked if I was using a Metabones or a different brand, they cared if I got the shot or not.
Sorry for the long rant, but this is my experience, and up until this point no one asked me what adapter I was filming all my youtube videos with either (Viltrox). As creators we don't make videos to show that we shot it on a Metabones or a RED, that's not our job, our job is to deliver a moving picture to either educate or entertain, not to put emphasis on the tools we used. (Because 95% of the audience that watches our movies (that arnt filmmakers) wouldnt even know what question to ask))
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Good point.