DJ Speaker Battle: RCF J8 vs 515/808 vs Bose 32
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- Let's compare these 3 big PA Column systems. I'll tell you what I like and don't like about each AND which is the best.
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Hey Arron ,
I picked up a pair of
Evox J8’s about 4 months ago , having now gigged them 10 times in a variety of locations some big some small ,I can now say that they are amazing,and I could not be happier with them. A complete game changer in terms of set up and tear down ,and sound amazing. Recommend them 10/10 .
DJBREN
Love it!
Hi Brendam. How many people have you gig'ed this for ? Do you carry an extra Sub along with you ? I am looking at portability as well and thinking of switching.
@@DJDesiEvents I’ve gigged the Evox j8s up to 150 people.Most of my gigs are in Bars ,Hotel Function rooms ,sports halls etc.My previous set up was a pair of EV Zlx 15p Tops with EV ELX 18” Subs .Sound was incredible but I couldn’t continue to transport them the set up and tear down was simply too much .So I replaced them with the RCF s .
So are they as good as the EV s answer is no but you have to be realistic about it your not comparing like with like .But they do come close and they are a total game changer in terms of transport.Perhaps the EV Tops and subs were OTT for my usage .But the J8s are my go to set up now and I couldn’t go back. I honestly can’t fault them .
I hope this is helpful.👍🏻
I think this kind video is the best information in all you tube community for mobile Dj. Keep your great work. ❤
I’d have to agree with you on that. I have the Evox J8’s and I tend to take those with me when I am in crunch for set up time and space, but my go to speakers for wanting great sound would be the Bose L1Pro32’s (But I never ever have a problem of clipping the sub 2), I do run my mixer into either line one or two. I did a couple of pool parties
this year and I brought Evox 8’s and sat out in the audience. They sounded fantastic. Then I brought the Bose L1Pro32s and Everybody complimented me on the sound, it did sound amazing, and the people that sat off to the side could hear it perfectly. The bass was absolutely incredible. Also, I did want to mention there was an update on the Bose firmware, which now allows you to run two in stereo with Bluetooth.
I agree, got lots of compliments on the sound with the Bose. It just fills a room without stressing the ears. I need to do an update!
A few years back I went into the store to buy The Bose unit. While I was there the shop guy suggested I test the Rcf also (Evox 8 V2). There was no comparison. The Rcf might cost more but it beat The Bose in every department imo.
Have you compared rcf Evox 8 V2 with Bose L1 PRO 8, L1 PRO 16 or L1 PRO32?
The 515/808 combo is all about touring grade high end sound and ultra portability - those other alternatives can't offer that.
If I wanted more power, I'd get a TT 08-A and TTS 15-A combo. Big compromise on portability, obviously.
At least in UK, Evox J8s are around £800, with JMIX8 going for £900 and Bose with the SUB2 is......... £2500!! Not even in the same price league.
The Bose system is just ugly. Aesthetically they’re just not pretty. I also just love RCF. Sound wise I prefer RCF as well. I own a pair of J8s and I’ve used the Bose for gigs, planning on getting the 515/808 setup eventually.
I think the opposite, lol- RCF ugly as hell and Bose are sexy beasts
Yup, Bose pro 32 sounds the best…was not loud enough and I did not like the separate (Awesome) subs so sold them. I bought the Evox 12s. Loud, can get the tops high above the guy with the hearing aids seated in front of me (though I ask for no tables in front of me) a bit harsh when cranked but at least I can get the music to the back of the dance floor when I’m 20 feet away from it even though I asked to be next to the goddamn dance floor.
lmao
I prefer my rcf j8s WITH A CENTERED SUB whenever possible. If the room is bigger and/or there are more people, I take my 15" Yamaha tops with 1 or 2 CENTERED SUBS! Obviously, I am a firm believer in centered subwoofers. That's based on science and real world tests.
Adding a sub 2 to any of these speakers takes them up a LEVEL.
When purchasing the RCF TT515 I went with the TTS15 subs because I did not think the 808 subs would hit hard and low enough to keep up with the 515. This combo is killer, but you do sacrifice some portability with this sub. The TT515 do get harsh if you are right near them, but not any more than any horn/woofer speaker. The column array will always sound less harsh close up because the sound is spread out over many drivers vs two super powerful drivers.
I have a pair of TT 10-A and TTS 15-A subs would go perfect with them. TT 515-A is unbeatable for portability, however they are not in the same league as TT 10-A.
@@DestroyerOfLiberasts That's awesome to hear. The TT 10-A doesn't look very special, being a basic 2 way top with no frills. i would think there would be better offerings from Martin Audio, Lower end Meyer or L Acoustics for near that price possibly?
thanks for this awesome video you did and shared. I agree with you Bose L1 Pro 32 with Sub 2 are great combo. I used it yesterday and people are amazed on the sound. Clear Warm pro 32 and punchy low freq sub2.
Yes, to my ear, I prefer a warm sound.
I can’t wait till they release the Maui 44 g3
I hope that's in the works!
jmix8 app and mixer are shocking. when the app freezes, the onboard controls freeze up too. you have to restart the speaker and app. I've extensively tested the jmix at home and it was fine. as soon as I was at a gig, it started f'up. you're better off bypassing it. the other downside is the j8 is heavy and only has one grab handle. not something you with to carry up steps to the car or steps to venues.
If you’re going past noon, you don’t know what you are doing. Please don’t go past unity…
Can’t stop the cringe… please stick to evolves or RCFs
thanks for stopping by...lol
Anyone who hate BOSE has only 2 problems,; it’s either they have ear problem or money problem 😂😂❤…!
Aren’t they 1/2 the price of the Rcf?
"no highs, no lows, must be bose"
Been waiting for this video! Great job. Heads up- Bose Pro16 has same driver as Sub2 but not same performance. Sub2 goes down lower and louder, plus with the Pro16 you lose the separate bass gain control.
Really? Interesting, I thought it was the same sub in that. Thanks Bill!
@Aaron Strawn The 16 had less internal volume which affects its LFE. It dips to 42hz, Bose sub 2 37hz.
Bring your volume down on your 515 tops. EQing will only do so much. If they sound harsh it’s because the bass needs more volume than the tops.
The pro16 would be a better comparison with the j8's for plug and play
Yes the sub2 is more efficient but I'm sure the pro16 sub works better than the sub1, I never rely on the paper specification but on the real test with a calibrated measurement microphone , for the bass gain controle , same as other tower like Prxone , J8's , Evolve50 etc
@@DavidB_AudioTech the Sub 1 due to more internal cabinet volume is same as 16 performance
Still disappointed you don’t allow drinks on speaker. What next….No sitting on or pole dancing!?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
lol!
Bose sub looks like a PC!
Great video Aaron. I actually think the Bose is by far the loudest if you have the low end to support it. The tower is just insane and has so much headroom. I would say that the tower outruns the Sub 2, and the Sub 2 runs out of breath, making you think it's not as loud. With that said, the Sub 2 still pounds harder the the J8 and deff goes lower. Is that not your experience?
Yes, Sub 2 wins out of all 3 for sure and when I stacked two sub 2s with one tower…holy shit. That was insane bass
@@AaronStrawn Can someone help me out?
I used to stack my B2 Subs and they'd sound insane!. Now I tried the same trick on the Sub 2's and for some reason, the bass cancels out instead. Both basses have the same polarity switch in + position. When I turn off one of them, the bass comes back in fuller force. When I turn both on, the bass diminishes! I have tried this both at home and at a venue, and the results were the same!
@@armgod1 If you have tried at home, try it again with the same setup space/area and press the polarity switch on both. What happens?
Cannot compare j8’s to TT 515’s + 808’s. J8’s are not from professional line, while TT’s are.
808’s are 129db spl peak, J8’s are 128 db spl from top+sub.
808 sounds every little harmonic of bass frequencies while j8’s doesn’t.
These are more what a lot of mobile DJs have. It's fun to line em up against each other
nul
You couldn't possibly give us a sound sample of each??!..Take a 30 second break and play the damn things
My guy, how good do you think a speaker sounds through a phones recording...I'll tell you..it sounds terrible.
Phones
have been as of late now, have good mics for recording, put the phones mic (on the bottom of an Iphone) right up to the speaker, then the other.. Give it a try brother ..
This we done right in the house - th-cam.com/video/X0PCQVy4YaU/w-d-xo.html @@AaronStrawn
I wanna buy 2x Bose L1 Pro 32
But please give me a good reason to buy them .
My question is : Why the Fk they’ve put the tweeters on the floor 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ ?!
My advice is only buy something if you really want it, especially something that will cost almost $7k
I always use the mixer of the Jmix 8, I load a saved eq setting and use the output to a j8 to get left and right sound. I normally don’t use them past 60 guests, for anything over that i typically use rcf art 945 plus rcf 8003 subs when
I think a pair can handle over that number. I've had them out for 200. Now..the tops are loud but you loose bass for sure
My rcf 515 Adapter knob broke as well 💩 still waiting for rcf to respond
Hey RCF...you shouldn't of outsourced these
Hey bro I can name one other drawback of the J mix I own one also and I love it. On three different occasions after doing shows sometimes before the shows the J mix top speaker slips out of that stupid friggin rubber band. They got in the back to hold it in. Go figure amazing. Can’t believe it couldn’t hold the speaker in. Three times I had to worry if it was gonna be ruined. I know that they’re made sturdy, but I was pulling it out off of a truck bed that was 4 feet high and it fell from 4 feet. That’s a pretty bad reason to mess up your J mix because they didn’t have a better secure idea for the top speaker.
Yikes! One of mine though I can tell is getting loose. The Tuki covers I got them in keep them together. Thanks for that heads up!
Two Bose L1 Pro32 with the tone match
Hi Aaron, can you connect the Bose 32 column to any sub? I have a QSC 112 that I love. Thanks for all your great videos. 🤠
Oh yeah, just connect the sub out to the 32.
I think the evox 12 is a good comparison to the 515/808
That's why I got the 515/808s. Wanted a lighter version
i bought a second L1 PRO32 with sub2 for gigs, just incredible. 2 is much better than 1. haha
Agree
Do you think the 515a sounds better than the EV50? Clarity wise...
Good question...With the 808 it's close. I love how a mic sounds on the 50
Bose inputs are brilliantly placed to catch spilled drinks..😮..come on bose
I know that's been a concern. Have only had that happen once
Here is an alternative to the RCF pole mounts. Get the ProX X-LS79 Universal Adapter Lighting Mounts For 1 3/8" Poles for a fraction of the cost. All you gotta do is cut the stud to 1 and 3/8 of an inch and it’s a perfect fit without those ugly screw handles protruding on the sides. If you wanna see a photos of it, hit me up.
I’m interested in this, send me pics on Instagram
@@AaronStrawn Done, if you decide to go with them make sure you cut the studs to the same size as the RCF pole mounts which is 1 and 3/8 on an inch.
I wouldn't blame anyone for liking either of these. I can't make my self pick between them however I'm still interested in the maui p900 for asthetic reasons only.
All great systems
Your comments are opposite what I expected. I’ve run the Pro32 at some pretty big events and haven’t really run out of headroom. Takes two Sub2’s to max it out. I do have issues with the height in packed room though. I expected the 515’s to be best sounding and Pro32 to be the loudest. Interesting.
2 sub 2s and one tower is AMAZING. I did this a few times and never clipped
Maybe this is stupid question but you try. RTA with touchmix in tt505 & tt808?
I haven't messed with RTA at all, I think that's out of my pay grade
Much appreciated , real world opinions, white white. What ?! LFG
They get here on Friday!
Hell ya bose! Is the best
So you ordered a pair of white Maui 28G3’s? You’ll love them. I can’t wait to hear what you think of them. The tower is a bit bulky but it’s a worthwhile compromise.
You’ll have to wait and see…yeah you’re right lol
@Aaron Strawn how big of a crowd can the J8’s handle comfortably? Thanks
I've done weddings with over 300 people and these have been fine. It's just placement and realizing that 12" subs are not gonna melt faces
no food or drink i need that sign LOL. man i hate when people place their drinks on my subs
It actually works!
2x bose 32’s with stacked sub2’s in the middle is surely the way to go.
If that’s not enough volume you must be doing some hella big venues.
Not heard 515’s yet, most djs around me Run a pair of cheap 12” tops with no sub. Sounds like 💩
2 sub 2s with one tower is the way to go. Plenty of headroom there
ive seen comments drom djs doing that with up to 1200 people with great sound
THanks for that one, really good to help make my mind !
Super helpful man. I have the same bose and the 515/808. Love the bose but even with 4 subs they clip too soon. We chatted about the harshness of the 515 but once they open up in a larger room they are surprising clear. Ridiculous amount of headroom
Bose for some reason tells you to run the pro 32 to the Sub2 via submatch cable or xlr but I run my SUB2's to the mains. Never had any clipping issues.
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4 BOSE SUB2's
White Evox 12. That’s my guess.
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How do you disable mixer plz
Hard to explain- it’s in the manual
#teamballrattler
This should start appearing on manuals. Right right...but will they rattle balls??
@@AaronStrawn 😆
Nice video. My guess you got the white Maui 28g3. What do I win since I know I got it right
Sending over a bag of chest hairs
@@AaronStrawn lol 😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Great video as always, but aren't you comparing 1 32, while the others you always run in pairs?
Maybe i misinterpreted lol.
Just saved a good friend who had Evolve 30s at a GC cash register who sent a text about it. I probably pissed off a salesperson but he walked away and bought the J8 after i gushed about them haha.
You're definitely getting old and misinterpreted lol. I was comparing one of each here. Nice catch, especially if that was a DJ!
@Aaron Strawn
I'm pulling out chest hair till I get a grip
Since I never learn I'll add the 32 stands alone for its ability to serve a ton of gigs with just 1. Not sure any of the others can pull that off. So pound for pound is the best "system" available.
(((Mic drop)))
Italian speaker, RCF!!!
Yousa gonna like it
Is j8 Bluetooth
Yep
I have the Jmix 8s .... love them as a Mobile Dj by myself. They are sooooo.... versatile. I even use JUST the sub one time with a different tops just for a little more punch .... love them
Same, they’re amazing
What tops did you pair them with?
I guess you never sold that second Bose 32. I find that I use my Evolve 50 like u use the Jmix 8s. I just picked up the LD systems curv500 ts. Sounds phenomenal w it’s 15inch sub, but not as portable as any of yours. I also have a pair of Bose sub 2s that I use with either the evolve 50s or my Turbosound ip 300s that are a lot easier to haul than the LD system. Great video as always 👍
After I sold the first set and had to box all that up...I was like..nah..I'm keeping this lol. I'm glad I did. It's great to have different options for different parties.
@@AaronStrawn I figured that. I’m the same way, an equipment addict and when I get to getting rid of something I usually regret it. Luckily I do have a minivan so that makes things alot easier space wise. I too like having multiple options to fit the venue. I think u might be regretting jumping on the hype train and dropping all that $$$ on those rcf 505s and the 808s. You shouldn’t have to jump through hoops to get good sound out of a speaker set that costs that much. I think I might be seeing those on Reverb after you get your LD systems speakers.
@@aquilinobenitez5055 you might be right
@aquilinobenitez
How do you find the LD Systems CURV500 TS?
Ohhh and thank you for the video. Cheers and have a great wedding season
You too!
@@AaronStrawn thank you!
But why have tiny speakers so close to the floor on the Bose?
And what if drunk patrons or unsupervised children use the bose, jbl, LD, etc systems...very breakable. Not so much from RCF
I think so that it fills the space more, which I will say, it does. Even sitting guests can hear the music
Where do you feel the breaking point is for the Sub 2? Like how many people is the max for it? Just ballpark
Once you get over 100 on the dance floor, I think you really need to push it to the max
@@AaronStrawn ok. Thanks.
@@aaronthedj12 I wouldn't wonna push that Sub2 too much though. For some reason, at a good max tower volume, even if the sub2 volume is at min, you'll still clip it (thanks to the "no-clip power" of the tower). Two (2) of my Sub2's have so far bricked themselves with a red light on the power switch
@@armgod1 interesting. Have you ever ran the Sub 2 without the tower?
@@AaronStrawn I’d agree with this. I’ve done weddings with one but less than 100 people. A banger 175 wedding with a pair of Sub2’s they started clipping. Have to couple them if you need max output. For bigger events I now bring 4 Sub2’s. They kick butt. 600 kid event, two Pro32’s and two JBL Eon One Mk2 fill speakers with four Sub2’s and they didn’t sweat it.
need to compare the new maiu 28 g3
That is happening soon
@@AaronStrawn the winner is the one i will be buying
Bose are cocktail hour speakers. They cannot handle a large crowd or intense music. They’re also too expensive for what they offer
I don't agree, but they do have limits
I also strongly disagree... unfortunately you've just had bad experiences or bad demos...
That being said most that complain the Sub2 clips too early have not updated the firmware (update re-writes the limiter program threshold to unleash the full power of the sub before clipping). After I updated mine, it was a totally different sub. I've consistently been doing gigs with 200 -250 ppl with ease. I'm a loud rnb hiphop house reggae DJ. No complaints.
P.S. I own the J8s as well. They are also great but they both have limits as Aaron said
@@BSEStudios The RCF J8 have a 12" subwoofer. They are not designed to handle large crowds neither. Your standards for sound reinforcement are different than mine. I use QSC K8 and K12 with KW181 subwoofers for large applications. Bose speakers are too fragile for those duties.
@DJTEDDY507 we have similar standards, I'm sure ...limiting the Bose setups to "Cocktail" speakers is a bit of an overreach...I'm coming from 15" EV ZXA5's over Dual KW181's. HEAVY HEAVY HEAVY Setup...I ran that setup for years, large crowds and all. Now I'm running RCF 932A's w/ Bose Sub2's. My last wedding of 250+ was nothing short of perfect. Sub2's (when coupled) produce far better 'Quality Bass' than my KW181s that I've run for years. Bose Subs are modular and designed to be stacked & coupled. If you listen to 2 or 4 x Sub2's (much easier to transport than 181s), you would never return to QSC. Kw181s are work horses, and I loved them for a time, but as far as sound to weight ratio for a single Op DJ, There's is no comparison.
As for the J8s. I'm fully aware they have 12" woofers and not for large crowds at all. But they have their place in the Sub 100 guest small room wedding, baby shower, retirement party space. They are great go-to for quick events where 1000watt 90lb 181s & 1000watt tops have no place. Just my 2 cents 🪙 🪙