RCF TT-515 TT-808 honest opinon
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- My opinion on the RCF TT-515 TT-808
Also forgot to mention that one of the speaker pole adapters broke already and I had to send RCF a replacement/repair form still waiting to hear back.
I have used these speakers for about 7 events total. Owned them less than a year.
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This is a high end super lightweight PA set. Of course it's not gonna be as loud as conventional PA with 15-18 inch subs. If you bought this set expecting it to do something that it obviously can't - it's your own fault.
You must have misunderstood the video I was stating that djs on TH-cam we’re saying these are game changers for mobile gigs and they’re far from that for the price of 8-9k
Agreed. Super lightweight PA with premium sound. But you have to understand what you buying. If you buy a premium private jet you’ll get premium features but you ain’t gonna fit as many people as the passenger planes that cost the same. That’s all about physics. The same is for the speaker. You’ll get the premium sound for suited events. The 2x8 will not be able to fill a concert hall even if you put electronics worth 3 billion in it.
Jason J. made a lot of $$$ making those videos and kick back from RCF! DJ Guru also pushed these. Have to be careful listening to one or two DEALERS on TH-cam. Called RCF and they said these were never designed to be DJ speakers. These are made for fixed installs and fill speakers. I have a single TT515 which I'm happy with the quality of the sound for small gigs. Never would have spent that $$$ on small subs! I have a $800 QSC K8.2 which is very close in performance to the TT515!
Your opinion about RCF TT series is not relevant, you bought wrong tool for the job, those speakers are not for DJ weddings for 200 people. This is professional TT series and they have their purpose in professional world. Good example for RCF speakers for wedding DJ's are cheapest ART 9 series with 800x subs. Costs less than 8000 euros and have 3x more power.
With you bro. I’m now learning that if you want light and portable you’re not gonna get loud. You want loud, it won’t be light or portable. Someone make this!!
So true,.. doesn't matter what they do with electronics,... you simply can't beat the laws of physics.
The answer is Evox 12's
Not light@@DJLoStax
@@DJLoStax those clip so easily
This video and the comments just prove DJ’s know nothing about sound reinforcement. It has nothing to do with the price, You were playing in a giant room with 127db speaker, that’s like putting a 4-cyl engine in a F-150 and complaining about lack of power! People buy iPhone pros and so they think they know how to shop, you don’t! Get 135db 15inch with 18inch sub at half the price and you be good, why the hell does a DJ need the RDNet processing power of a TT+ ? They don’t yet you’re paying for it. You wouldn’t get a Honda civic to haul around lumber and so small speakers are not going to work for you, sorry can’t have both worlds, good gas mileage and heavy hauling power.
I dont know what you ended up getting but I sold my Evolves because I just got way too much feedback. I ended up going with the Maui 44s and man oh man, now these are game changer for column arrays. I did look at the TT 515 but man for the price the SPL is only 127, which is the same as the Evolve 50s. The Maui 44s are 132 SPL so its going to throw further and the low end hits you in the chest. Thanks for honest feedback.
200 people is no small crowd..........
Thank you for your honest opinion I was looking for so many videos like this because I was ready to purchase this new RCF
but I’m I think I’m gonna keep with my HDL6s and my hdl10 👍🏻👍🏻
You could spend 80k, you simply can’t change physics. Expecting a twin 8” sub and twin 5” tops on a room a 1/3 thats size is doable.. you’d havre been better getting the 910 tops and either 8003 or 705v3 subs and save 2.5k. Bigger driver allows for more air movement regardless of specs.
Hope you got sorted
Haven’t seen any 80k 8” subs and 5” tops lol
@@TheDjelements kef blades 😂
At the end of the day classic point source speakers are always the best way to go.
Get small, lightweight 10 inch speakers that are easy to lift on poles.
Then get 2 powerful single 18 inch subs. Not a dual.
If the dual fails, you’re left with no bass at all. If 1 of the 2 subs fail, the other will save the night.
It's easy! You asked them to do what you know they can't do. Using speakers that open 100 degrees horizontally with a peak SPL of 127 dB plus a sub that has a peak SPL of 129 dB is simply the result of naivety or not wanting to fully understand what is written in the technical data sheets. The truth is that many audio systems are used badly, for spaces that are too large, especially compared to the pressure they develop. The 515s must be used with the TTS 15A subs and you will see that the greater power on the low frequencies will make the perceived volume much higher on average and then you will not even push the 515s to clip.
Furthermore, the clarity and transparency of reproduction that the 515 and the entire TT series (which is the top of the RCF range) cannot be compared to non-reference products such as Ld system or similar column array system: these products are not used as professional standards while the tt series is.
Finally, it is also necessary to understand which files are played on the system and which mixer the signal comes out from: if you use controllers with amateur and non-pro quality sound cards therefore different from djm 900nxs2/djm a9/djm s11 or Rane Mixer, it is probable that a very hi-end pro audio system enhances digital distortion or excessive file compression or poorly dynamic mastering. Quality systems do not accept even little distortions (such as d&b audiotechnik, L Acoustics, Meyersound with which the TT series can compete).
I just got bassboss they’re way better lol
Do you really think that DJ's can understand how PA speaker works, decibels and classes of speakers? :D
Check out the Yamaha DXS 15 - XLF subwoofers and the Yamaha DZR 12 mains. Will easily cover a 200 person wedding. And will do it for around $6K including rain covers.
Thanks for the review. They already set you up to failure by putting you that far from the dance floor, I hate that shit.
Facts
I still believe 15 subs and 12 tops is a good combo,not as small as the column arrays, but will bang 200 crowds
I agree!
Expensive gear does not mean LOUD... TT series gives you other advantages... durability, quality audio, etc... I dont think TT series aré ment to be mobile systems... You could easely install this audio at a small bar, have them running 16 hours a day, 7 days a week will work fine for up to 10 years..
When did I ever say expensive gear means it’s loud?
RCF made portable cases for speakers that were not meant to be mobile? Interesting
@@TheDjelementsi believe you deleted my answer, its fine just learn to understand what things are for before you buy..
@@viralversatiltj2435 I didn’t delete anything sir.
@@viralversatiltj2435 the entire video was about me learning and understanding from djs TH-cam videos that they were “game changers for mobile events”.
8k wow , I think these DJs are always talk good about something is because they got it for free maybe on top of that they got paid and those are the only videos that we get to see cuz our popular DJ's with a lot of followers
Don't trust the dealer!
You need sound dispersion in a big room, not more volume. Think how a movie theater works. Many speakers delayed vs two huge speakers at the front of the room.
I use for years Rcf 8004as with NXL24A
Everyone trying to fill huge spaces with tiny speakers. They have a purpose but air needs to moved and that’s hard for smaller speakers. Welcome to reality.
i feel sorry for you, but rember too lod is not good, people will complain the manager will kill you if you make the bottles in the bar fall... keep your tops just get louder subs...
Fwiw - as a DJ, I would refuse to put my sound system this far away from the dance floor. Dj far away from the dance floor ? Still a mistake, but no guests will suffer for it. But when you put the sound system this far away the guests suffer because you have to play that much louder (especially the guests who don't dance obviously), and that's unacceptable for me.
????? Uhhhh? from the party scenes, and me wearing headphones, your system sounded VERY good!!! To be fair, I understand you invested a lotta money based off what you felt was a credible reference, But even still, for an event of this size? I wouldn't have brought such a small footprint of a sound system..IJS, but stilll, NO ONE in the crowd looked disappointed, looks like you rocked that event and that you didn't get the sound results you were expecting from the amount of money you spent....Mannn? They sound good to me.. (I'm researching the subs, looking to buy a used pair) Thanks for sharing... I'm pretty much "Sold" on the subs... I use Yorkville tops..but now I'm interested...but will more than likely buy bigger RCF tops to pair w/these subs #Salute
lol that's why you never ask a DJ about sound opinions......
its 5" .......
Should of invested into the 8008. I got 2. Dual 18s are where its at.
Judging by the speaker specs you would know this wouldn’t be used for large weddings. 127 db max on the tops and 8 inch subs. This is great solution for small bars/events and venue spaces. Impressive for its size for sure, but it’s just physics in the end. There is so only so much you can get out of a small speaker. I have two rcf systems, 735 and 708 subs and the evox 12. The 7 series I use for large events and the evox for most weddings. Two 735s at 132 db is plenty for weddings. You also get great low end as well.
hahahha. I dj'd my own wedding. i was telling myself ain't no one playing Young man at my wedding and yeah - If anyone rolled in with 8' speakers i would have kicked them out - 15" tops and 18" Subs always nothing less. if you show up, Show out
Nice! I don’t think I’ll be djing my own wedding that doesn’t sound fun lol. If your djing your own wedding how/why would someone come in with 8 foot speakers?
Anyone who thinks they will cover and boom a larger size room with a pair of 8" subs and 5" tops... guess what ..
IT IS NOT (ever) HAPPENING.
I haven't had the chance to even hear these speakers in person, but I know, at a SMALL gig, 75 or 120 people... these things will destroy all the Evolves, Bose, etc...
RCF higher end models are no joke.
Again .. this small, compact, rockin set up is for Small, tight gigs to squeeze in a corner and knock it outta the park.
The end.
You want boom, then get some 15s or 18s.
Science doesn't lie, kids.
...side note..
if you want REAL boom in a room... get rid of your digital systems.
Passive still blows all of this stuff Away 🤘🏻
- just sayin
@@smokinjoe1425 auctually djied a small room with these about 50 people and they were limiting the entire night. Evolve 50s bass way louder (had those for 4 years) but ok I’ll take advice from the guy that’s never heard them in person.
G44 Maui is good for like up to 150 people and a medium sized room
And this is the video I was looking for. I’ve owned nearly all EV speakers, the Maui 44s g2s and now I’m on the RCF 935s. They are ridiculous. I don’t even really need a sub for most gigs. Although I’ll get a couple of the RCF 18s. I wanted to hear these were epic so thank you for levelling me out 😅
hes hot
LPSG has his nudes
These speakers were never meant for DJ events. These are great for small PA, corporate gigs, speaking events, not for ultra loud music. Also, did you "break" them in easily, or did you blast them right away? Speakers, need to be slowly broken in.
The video is explaining that popular TH-cam djs claimed this speaker setup was a game changer for wedding mobile djs , live events. I also learned that the dj preaching ended up selling his. If you watch the video I state that they would be great for a smaller room of under 100 people . And yes I slowly broke them in before taking them on the road.
@@TheDjelements I saw those videos as well, TH-cam should make them state that they receive kickbacks, like Instagram.
they cost that much not because they are supposed to pump big rooms like that. So I can't agree with the message in the video, I still think it's the user error expecting too much from a product that is expected to provide spectacular sound but for a smaller audience. Even so, these are an awesome product just for a different use case.
The video was about djs hyping it up to be a “game changer” for djing big weddings and partys and I wouldn’t trust them for a crowd over 80 peeps. My opinion
Bro you're rocking four 8"inch subs. Basic math.
I heard them at the photo booth expo ... wasn't impressed
Thanks for the honest review. We personally love RCF products but the size and power of these definitely had me questioning the effectiveness. You also were set up for failure in this room by the distance from the dance floor. As you know, you need to be right in front of the dance floor.
As for the Maui LD G44… I’ve heard good things and it comes with a 15 or 18” sub I believe. I think that’s the key to getting good sound and bass. I have a set of way more expensive LD Maui P900 (Porsche Design) which is supposed to be even higher end. They have a dual 10 or 12” in the sub bottom. They just don’t cut it for anything larger than a small room with less than 100 people. Plus I purchased them in white color. They look very sleek but I am so paranoid that a drunk person is going to spill red wine on them. Sometimes we splurge on a purchase and realize we made a mistake. A great speaker for the money is the RCF Art-912. Blows away QSC K.2 series in sound quality in that price range.
That room is too big for those small speakers
This system is for home karaoke at best..
I own the rcf jmix 8 and no matter how much i put it louder it just not enough so i get you. i was tired of carrying bulky setups. i thought it was going to be louder being compact. I currently added a sonic maximizer and it made a big difference but even then i had to add an 18 inch subwoofer for that punch and 15 inch speakers.
I’m so glad I found this video! I’ve been debating on whether to invest in the TT 515s as a possible portable setup but the price always brings me back down to Earth lol, and after watching this review and the fact that Aaron is selling his imma leave them alone. The LD Maui 44 G2s are beasts!! Heavy if you’re going to a venue with stairs but if purchase the wheels for them then rolling them into a street level venue is easy!
Jason Jani has his up for sale as well.
WOW @@antoniofernandezjr2929
nxl 24 with a 15 or 18 sub will kill these
Der
I own a pair of RCF NX32 And four qsc ks 118 running everything on a driverack Pa2 and thrust me man these packs great punch for a crowd of 300 persons comfortable. they work all night without Clipping
That’s room was way to big for that set up, and if your gigs have 200-300 you shouldn’t have bought that set up. I’d only use those for very small gigs, a room half the size of the one you were in.
Thanks boss
The rcf Evox 12 solves your problem.
Tried them experienced lots of clipping light
Thanks for sharing the honest thoughts on these speakers. Keep us posted…
Great video!! All facts bro
No such thing as a great price for RCF..lol
Good ol RCF 745 will cover what you're trying to do with enough low end and throw for that room.
Companies are pushing the column array band wagon plus you can always scale up with 18 subs when needed..
Systems are going the way of cellphones..started big then got smaller..now going big and small at the same time with the folding phones..columns are sizing up even the the point was to scale down....if it aint broke ..you know the rest.
thx for sharing... love real world opinions, just purchase RCF J8s
J8's are great for small to medium-sized venues. For large rooms with large ceilings you loose the wow factor. However they do really good in outside settings.
I ended up going with BassBoss dv12's and a BB15 they're amazing
I'm starting to realize this is very common among American Djs. Small systems give small sounds. The laws of physics still apply to these enclosures.
Why would stacking the subwoofers make them better? You have to have them together
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I've read through some of the comments, spending that much and not being able to handle a 200+ seems crazy to me. Thanks for the video, great points.
Nice party
I am running wharfedale ax15b subs and wharfedale typhon 12bt tops🎉
Nice! Ty
Good review buddy ..
I like rcf speakers although using Ev ekx -15s
When I upgrade think I’ll get art 10 or 12 tops with 905 mk3 subs
Agree on the evolve 50 I play at an outdoor bar/ hotel although the system sounds clean I’m not a fan of 10 inch subs and the system hits limit fairly easy
I think too many people worry about the look of the system over the performance
Definitely check out BassBoss if you’re looking for a loud investment in small package
Im not sure why anyone would think 8" subs will feel a room. I mean do you see concerts utilizing small compact systems? And dont say they use arrays because their arrays are nothing like this. I dont care what bs Jason or any of these sponsored DJs tell you when it comes to sound size matters. And honestly why would you spend 8k on a sound system designed to be used for gigs that pay $1-$2k. I mean you know you cant do huge prom or corporate function where youd make enough to justify 8k for the speakers. So here ya are spending 8k for wedding speakers and ya still need to drop a lot more if you wanna do a big production.
I never said "8 subs would 'feel' a room? I never once mentioned using small, compact systems for concerts. As seen in earlier videos on my channel, I would use my four JBL VRX 918sp and four 932lap speakers if I wanted to dj larger projects. Bringing smaller speakers to DJ smaller events is the topic of this piece. For smaller weddings, are you suggesting that you charge $1-$2,000? I'm not sure. This was not a post about providing sound for a big prom, haha.
Damn! I guess you don't always get what you pay for in this case.
I'm also thinking that DJ's need to spread their speakers out further apart instead of having them so close to each other. Do you think that would help?
Especially if you're in a huge room. I would think you would at least want the speakers 100 ft apart from each other.
You need to cover a room especially if it's large and if it's large it seems to make sense to me that you'd want to spread the speakers out further apart.
They were definitely spread apart that wasn’t the issue.
From many videos & reviews on these speakers it’s the bass end that falls down? Am I right in thinking this would love to hear the tops with one of RCF’s bigger bins maybe?
Tops don’t carry too far . Good for about 100 people max I’d say
Go with the srx jbl
I ended up going with BassBoss dv12's and a BB15 they're amazing
If column speakers are your preferred format, what options are there? Would these work with a more powerful sub?
Hk element scalable system with RcF 8003.. gets super loud and throws far 👍
When you search a game chaining System, look at the Voice Acoustic PaveoSub-112 and Score-5
i went with Bassboss so far im beyond satisfied impossible for me to hit the limit light.
Hi, what do you think about using the RCF NXL 24A for this type of event? Do you compare it with these?
I have not heard them yet.
What do you think about rcf evox 12? Maybe they are Better in sound quality and power?
Probably a little better but I just went with bassboss dv12 and now I never see a limit light which is amazing.
I personally love the TT-515A, while using them in combination with 9004-AS subs.
The TT808-AS is just a small sub, replacing a single ~12" Cone (in comparison), meaning it's about a half of an 18" sub.
515a works great just depends on size of the room and crowd
Do you use a pair of the 9004-as with the pair of TT-515? What do those subs cost? The dealer only pricing is hidden online. Thanks!
Did you do a firmware update? I found this out recently - must be done using the RDNet.
I will look into that did it improve?
Thank you for the honest review. Appreciate it very much. How do you feel about using the 515's with bigger subs ? like 705 ? And big mistake with the videographer. He needs to plug into your mixer (rec out), not your speakers.
It depends on what size crowd you are working with if the event has 70 people sure! if its 150 ppl nope you will be hitting the limit light all night
@@TheDjelements Thanks for the reply - Very helpful !
127dB less than 150 people
Can you explain how the speaker out is any different than the mixer out?
Were you clipping on the tops too or just the subs??
BOTH!
What do you think about the Bassboss?
Absolutely amazing
Would the exm mobile 8 be suitable for your application?
i highly doubt that would be any more power i ended up going with BassBoss dv12's and a BB15 theyre amazing
NO way! 100dB max
Thanks for this. Do you think the clarity is better on the 515a or EV50?
515a will sound better at high volume . evolve 50 garbage imo
515 sounds like a 127dB Studio Monitor/Needs a sub!
I think the honest answer here is Meyer X20's. I've got 14 of them at my shop, and they're killer!
124 dB even weaker $4,000!
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Remember though, you need to throw it into prediction to see it actually hit that. A lot of speakers from most manufacturers won't hit their rated spec sheet specs in general settings. With Meyer boxes, you're likely to get a lot closer to that rated spec.
By 124DB (assuming it's A-Weighted) you wouldn't be in the room anymore anyways.
Same story as TT515- Thousands of dollars for a small speaker. Besides weight/size, WHY?@@evanturunen
@@WWeiss-nv5vz You’re not just paying for the size of the box. If you look at RCF’s box, it’s got RD-Net built into the back which is a HUGE selling point for many people looking to deploy these as front fills for a larger system, and on both the RCF and the Meyer box, you’ve got some fantastic drivers in there, so sonically, they’re incredibly transparent.
For someone tuning a rig, having something that is transparent in the box itself, that’s huge. The RCF boxes are incredibly inexpensive for what they do, and while the Meyer boxes are definitely not cheap, both are certainly very impressive. In terms of output, an X20 will get as loud (albeit A-Weighted) as a K12.2 with no problems.
Good point about RD-Net. Great feature for fixed installs which these were designed for. My beef is these or the X20's are not DJ speakers. I own the TT515 which do have incredible clarity but hard to justify the price. X20 $4,880 each!! I've never heard them but specs: 45-20Hz are not very impressive. Besides weight advantage, I would not trade them for my QSC KW122 at $1,350 131dB/50-20Hz Again, just talking since I've never heard them:)@@evanturunen
Ld 44 those is the best column aray
That’s what I have heard thank you 😊
Too heavy, would rather take 18" sub/15" tops
8 graND?????? helllll naah
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