Different Islands, Same Tongue: Relationship Between Austronesians and Taiwanese Indigenous Peoples
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ส.ค. 2023
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Taiwan has been a pivot in the historical development of Austronesian peoples. By riding ocean currents on canoes, the Austronesian peoples have dispersed from Taiwan to numerous islands across the Pacific and Indian Oceans. The diaspora explains the linguistic similarity among Austronesian languages, despite the fact that their speakers share little geographic proximity. Learn more about the ties between Taiwanese Indigenous peoples and their island kin.
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I am proud of my Austronesian roots. Hello to all the Austronesian countries of Southeast Asia, Melanesia, Polynesia, Micronesia, and also to Taiwan, Madagascar and Australia.
ive visited Taiwan twice, meeting Taiwanese, and they have the purest heart of mankind. I love Taiwan, maybe my great great great ancestors came from this place. i feel the conection🙂
Although we are separated by sea...we are still the same Austronesian.Austronesian shape South East Asia. Love from Malaysia
❤I am bdayuh tribal from sarawak. Long may our ancestor share the same heritage❤
My father is Maori and my Mother is Samoan. Linguistically I can see similarities in every language found in Polynesia and south east Asia. You see it very clearly when counting. Also base words like house..Samoan (Fale) Maori (whare) land...Samoa (venua) Maori (Whenua) we are all Aiga
In Kapampangan, it's Bale and Banua
in iTaukei (Fijian) it's vale and vanua
In TAHITI (French Polynesia) the words like house we say in our native language (Fare) and land we say (Fenua). That's amazing, isn't it.
The closest word in Indonesian maybe bale / balai
Indonesia - pamona language (banua)
Tao people are similar to the Ivatan people in the northern Philippines. in fact both languages are mutually intelligible and culturally and ethnically related directly. I hope more Taiwanese docs can explore the similarities shared between Taiwan's indigenous peoples and ourselves, the people of the Philippines. We are the closest relations to them from among all Austronesian peoples.
Except for the Aeta tribe .
@@peekaboopeekaboo1165There's Semang Negritos in Malaysia.
@@peekaboopeekaboo1165 that's partially correct. Aetas today are also mixed with Austronesians. So actually they are a mixed people in the modern day, along with Mamanwa, Dumagat and Ati. Most share some facial features with Austronesian Filipinos, whereas their historic relatives in the Andaman Islands look completely different because they didn't intermix with other groups. Check genetic studies done online for Philippine Negrito groups, you'll find that they were mixing as far back as when the Spanish arrived. A similar comparison can be made between people in Timor and Maluku (mixed Papuan and Austronesian people who speak Austronesian languages) vs Papuan people in the highlands of Papua New Guinea who didn't mix.
Also to think how weirdly similar is Ilocano and Javanese eventhough they are thousands of Kilometers apart.
@@derbdep
Aeta language has nothing in common with that of "indigenous" people in Taiwan .
It's very important to recognize Taiwan is a maritime nation.
It's not a province?
The maritime nation and power of the ancient world
It's (Taiwan) a province not a nation. And actually, our ancestors according to the Indonesian curriculum in the 2000s, said that we came from the Yunan region (Southern China up to Mekong-Irrawaddy river) and the Saka dynasty from India...
After the Dai Viet-Champa war and the ethnic cleansing in the 16th century, Malay Champa and the legacy from Yunan civilization (Mekong-Irrawaddy river) is gone...
Chinese Taiwan is a refugee, not a native of Formosa island, like Tumasik/Singapura's case. However they are our friends. China and Taiwan are one country...
Collecting bones of the hunted animals (sometimes humans) and displaying them by the roof inside the house is common practice in northern Philippines too.
Thank you for sharing!
In ancient Guam, warriors would collect human and animal bones to make spears. Skulls were used for veneration, and as a way to ask for guidance and help from those who passed away
I hope Taiwan can reinvigorate its Austronesian languages. Greetings from your southern neighbor!
Migration of people come in different waves (times) and from different directions. In Taiwan, 5000 years ago there were people living there and 500 years later another group could have arrived from mainland China, Japan, or Vietnam. Then a hundred years later, there could have been a reverse migration which could have started another migration to Oceania. Migration patterns are never one way; it is very dynamic going in all different directions over thousands of years.
True but the migration towards empty land was stronger (and safer). Going back you would bump into the people living there. War or mixing would make the footprint smaller. The ice age made the jump to the next islands smaller. That's why the last islands in the Pacific only got inhabited in the last 1000-2000 years. Many groups will have died going further because they never found a new island. Also if the group was too small, they could have died out due to an extreme small gene pool.
Should get a better narrator he speaks choppy English thou he is very knowledgeable
Thanks very great documentary!
Taiwan, Philippines Indonesia Malaysia the migration route.Tatala sounds Tala of Tagalog language. Tatala seems an abbreviated Tanglaw Tala (star light).(guided by star light).
Kalawa in Dayak Ngaju, Indonesia means bright light
The word Tala in Filipino came from Sanskrit. The true Austronesian/Proto-Austronesian word for star is Bituqən. Which, in Tagalog is Bituan but now Bituin/Bitwin. Also, Tala although now apperantly used for stars in Filipino, actually meant Northern Star/First star in Tagalog and Bitwin was used as the word for stars.
tala means let's go in cebuano.
Quite clear.
Only Philippines Malaysia Indonesia Austronesian our boats are similar 😅
*south Philippines North Philippines costumes are same like taiwan aborigin, south Philippines got sea faring influences from Indonesian
Your dumb right, Philippines is a Malay race even some of the dialect is similar. ❤
@walterrumohr7090 did you watch the documentary??? It totally contradicts your statement as does, the linguistic and genetic evidence😂
@@walterrumohr7090 yes, similar words like murah, mahal and selamat?
Even Sabah sarawakians also
Vahey is Bahay in Philippines
This is so cool!
I'm so proud to be of Taiwanese descent
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funny to realize... the Taiwanese are more historically, DNA, and language similar to Philippines, Indonesia, etc.. than China
Han people invade Taiwan. Now Republic of China want Taiwan. Life is like a "wheel". 😅
interesting.
Thank you! How do you enjoy it? Shall we make more videos of these topics?
Tao is the Tagalog (Filipino) word for person. This could very well be related to the Tao people.
Minahasan People of North Sulawesi🇮🇩 says "Tou" also mean person/orang.
Taotao means person in Chamorro
I think the most accurate translation of Tao to English is human.
@@turtlemarino3028 Words don't necessarily need to have a single, direct translation in another language. Both are just as accurate.
In Bisaya(Philippines)
Tao or taw = Means PERSON in Bisaya
Great, thanks for sharing. Free Taiwan
Thank you!
Fantasy !
ROC 🇹🇼 is already free .
like the Dayak tribe of Kalimantan and the Maori tribe of New Zealand
My grandfather came from the island of Taiwan, I just realized why he doesn't have a face like a Mongol with slanted eyes and yellow skin, it turns out that the indigenous tribes of Taiwan and Indonesia are the same
What's your grandfather's family name ?
Yong yen
@@IDFDAJJALARMY
"Yongyen" ...two words surname ?
Strange to hear about TW indigenous migrating to another country ?
By any chance your grandfather is mixed with Han (Hoklo or Hakka) ...?
@@peekaboopeekaboo1165 that's all I know, because of the tragedy of the communist uprising in 65 we covered up his identity, because the stigma of the Chinese race being communist remains to this day
@@peekaboopeekaboo1165 Since 65 he has never used that name, the government requires Chinese people to change their names to Indonesian names.
South Pacific nations must remember the seed of where they came from…
@@paresracerramenrider8933 Polynesian were under the umbrella of Austronesian as the video explained.
@@paresracerramenrider8933 it's not 400years ago , cause the austronesian was sailing back 25000 years ago starting in 10,000 BCE.
and yes after they left taiwan/formosa , they sail to philippines and starting to separated in groups
@@paresracerramenrider8933 yeah , i read it wrong.
@@paresracerramenrider8933
Obviously from Taiwan the original Austronesian must have migrated to the nearest land mass and that must have been Luzon and the Babuyan island chain just north of it.
From there the migratory path would have been predominantly southwards towards the visayan islands and beyond and spread further outwards to an eastern and western direction.
@FLAGS-ON-MOVIES I think Austronesia came from Indochina, they were eliminated by the new arrivals, Khmer Thai, Vietnam. Then Austronesia moved to Malaysia and Borneo, then to the Philippines, then to Taiwan. Logically, how can Taiwan, such a small island, give birth to such a big nation? Why? not from Madagascar? /rukyu Okinawa Japan?
12:50 that's a Tapa Cloth from Papua New Guinea 🇵🇬
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Tai Kra Dai people are the Austronesians that remained on the mainland and mixed with other local indigenous and Yue Han groups.
10:08 minutes explains everything. there are 2 routes . The western route will have a large mix with Krai Dai (this is common in Indonesia, after Austronesian 55% there will be Kra Dai 40+% ) others 5% .
in Indonesia only the Nias people are close to 80% pure Austronesian, 20% more kra dai.
No one is talking about the indigenous austronesian nanman and yue people of southern china
There’s some videos on it but I think that part of history is blurier
@@ginoangeles5260 yeah, specially the version of history are coming from the mandarin chinese speaking people
Vahey = Bahay (Filipino) = house?
so taiwan is not really chinese?
Yes.... just some came from Mainland china during Chinese civil war. Dominated by Han chinese.
Don't forget about malagasi, people from Madagascar island (Africa).
They are part of us too.
taiwan is for the natives..not for mandarin speaking chinese.
Some Indonesians are trying hard to point that Austronesians originated in Indonesia even though they don't even possessed above 50% percentage of Austronesian Genetics.
they rely on out of sundaland theory which is another theory of homeland origin of austronesians, taiwan being the considered original homeland of austronesian is not 100% confirmed, by type of topography the island of borneo is the perfect original homeland of austronesia rather than taiwan because this island is located so close to mainland china
Yes, Sundaland theory is more logic than Taiwan theory.
@@MTC008 Southern China was not Chinese territory in the stone age. It was the homelands of multiple Southeast Asian peoples before they were driven out by the expansion of the Han Dynasty starting at around 2000 BC.
Borneo was NOT Austronesian territory in the early stone age. It was most definitely NOT Austronesian when the sea levels were lower in the last ice age (c. 12000 BC +) and it was still the Sundaland peninsula. It was peopled by the Negrito and Orang Asli peoples, cousins of the Papuan and Aboriginal Australians, who are NOT Austronesians. ALL of the prehistoric remains of humans before at least 1500 BC in Indonesia and Malaysia are NOT Austronesians. I'm really tired of Indonesians and Malaysians who seem to think just because they're the largest countries now with Austronesian-speakers, that they are automatically the origin.
Your languages aren't even completely Austronesian anymore. You've lost the Austronesian alignment, and lost the complex grammar of the ancestral Austronesian languages. Even more so your genetics, you're not even pure Austronesians anymore. Western Indonesians and Peninsular Malaysians (as well as the Chams) are almost 50% Austroasiatic (Mon-Khmer), due to intermarriage of incoming Austronesian settlers with preexisting Austroasiatic tribes in mainland Southeast Asia.
It's like if Americans claimed that European people originated from the Americas, because America is a "perfect homeland" and have more population. LOL
@@Do2mifasol-nh3lq Let me put it this way:
Austronesians have specific technologies they carried with them when they sailed across the seas: paddy rice-farming, sophisticated ships and sails (including outriggers), pottery, bark-cloth, chickens, wood-shaping adzes, houses built on stilts, millet, water buffalo, etc.
NONE of these existed in Borneo or Peninsular Malaysia before 1500 BC. They were clearly carried by Austronesians when they arrived from SOMEWHERE ELSE.
In contrast, all of these cultural markers are found in Taiwan and the Philippines (as well as parts of southeastern China) since at least 2200 BC and older.
@@AngryKittens what are you talking about most austronesians in the philippines and indonesia still looking native, they still resemble the austronesians from taiwan
Tachi in Japanese.
In fact Japanese are distant cousin of Austronesia😊
not just a cousin but is totally related to them as part of it's language family
@@MTC008Definitely believe this to be true because in one of my reads. It's stated that Kumaso (Bear) people were Austronesians found in Japan. Funny enough, the word Kumaso can be broken down in Tagalog (a language in Philippines) Kum->Kung (what if) and Aso=Dog. Seeing how ancient people's lived saying "what if dog" for a bear is sort of accurate since bears are in caniformia family.
@@kikoyworld but some people do not believe that japanese language is related to the austronesian language family when you can see many similarities not just of having same phonology
@@kikoyworld And Dog in Japanese are "inU".
many japanese people also lookingly similar to southeast asians too
Tao people = Human people?
Good point as a Filipino I'm laughing reding it
Its like the movie moana where the people use the sky and stars as navigation for new land, then they spread out. It does have fictional tales but some of it are true.
Syempre "tao" sa Tagalog, "tawo" sa Bisaya at "tau" sa Tausug sa Ingles "man, person" na. Sama sa tribu sa Taiwan Tao.
Tao means tao in the Philippines language and that's called human in English
Alam melayu teory
Hawaiian and taiwanese are cousins
Brother you don't want to be Chinese? Might as well join the club of Austronesian/ASEAN countries.
The Queen of the South will Rise🤗The Land of Ophir🤫Where King Solomon got its Gold🤗 Columbus, Magellan, and Bush knew🤗
Get that Judaic mythology out of Austronesia
Austronesian words will be refuted by prof Malay who have a lot of hallucinations😂
I think Austronesia came from Indochina, they were eliminated by the new arrivals, Khmer Thai, Vietnam. Then Austronesia moved to Malaysia and Borneo, then to the Philippines, then to Taiwan. Logically, how can Taiwan, such a small island, give birth to such a big nation? Why? not from Madagascar? /rukyu Okinawa Japan?
Linguistics has the answer to your question
Because physical evidence points towards Taiwan.
I think Austronesians comes from the peninsular Malaysia and spread to the Malay Archaepalago and distant islands. It is the southern most Asia Europe land mass and the tropical forest is the oldest in the world. Island of Sumatra is the closest to the peninsular and have various dialect of the Austronesian language too.
Then how come that Austronesians didn't leave a massive genetic print in the mainland sea if they originated there?
@@migspeditiontrue in fact we can also trace it through the genetics of gut bacteria, plants and domesticated animals.
Which place in south east Asia have the highest number and density of people? Java island have the highest density. It is highly likely Austronesian originate from java, not the other way round.
Then tell me why java doesn't get a large portion of Austronesian genetics? you're even grouped with the mainland sea unlike the Philippines and Polynesians. And just because your country is overpopulated doesn't mean it's the origin of a certain group. Heck even the core vocabularies of Javanese Language contains a lot of words that don't belong Austronesian.
@@user-yf4co5in7d
Austronesian, Austroasiatic, Negritos, Melanesia, are living in same area call Sundaland.
Java before rising sea levels was part of Sundaland
Where java is the most fertile place for the rice.
That's way all of people still on java, even though seal levels rise.
Use your logic :
In 2023 CE
java population 150 m people
Taiwanese aboriginal 1 m people
In 900 CE
Java population 1.5 m people
(We can built borobudur prambanan)
Taiwan population ?
In 1 CE - 5000 BCE ?
@@user-yf4co5in7dorang Jawa itu Austronesia juga bro
@@user-yf4co5in7dbro always talk about words,funny
@@user-yf4co5in7dthis one filipino nationalist,really put other west Indonesians and Malaysians as the lowest people with austroneisa genetic,funny like you press hard seems like we almost never had austronesians genetics and just austroasiatic,in fact we culturally and linguistically adopt from austronesian only not austroasiatic.
Austronesian did not originate from Taiwan😂 and where the Taiwanese came from, China ! Then Taiwan is China.😂
Austronesians are the original inhabitants of Taiwan since at least 6000 BC. The Chinese only colonized the island in the 1600s AD. The Aboriginal Taiwanese are NOT Chinese. Learn your history.
Originally Taiwan was mostly Austronesian. The Taiwanese you are seeing now are descended from Han settlers that arrived even later than the Dutch.
@@TaLeng2023 Apparently, Malaysians don't know history.
big ship existed alr during Solomon Era... I suggest to you read about Solomon's Gold Temple on Bible.. it was suspected the origin of gold used to build gold temple came from the Philippines.. that's why Filipino language have loan words from Hebrew language.
Naboang na
Quite true.
Those who mock this theory must be greatly misinformed and whitewashed.
The Spanish archives have the exact location of Ophir which lead to the discovery of the Philippine archipelago.
sana ikaw nalang nagresearch and nagpresent, ophir on the other hand have so many candidate countries. Theory pa rin yan sinasabi mo about ophir kasi kahit sa bible walang direct meaning or phrase kung saang east part of the word ang ophir. Iba yung pinapaliwanag dito sa video na to sa gusto mong iparating common sense. Magkaibang topic yan kaya hinay hinay ka lang.
@@baldeagledelta3482Philippines existed way before solomon era, and you're the one who's misinformed. Science doesn't rely on biblical claims, when they make claims they also provide proofs such as genetics, archeology and linguistics.
@@user-yf4co5in7d
So where’s the proofs as you say.
Show them here.
Tala are star in Filipino
Fetū in Samoan
In Filipino yes, but in Tagalog it's Bituan which is now Bituin or Bitwin.
@@kikoyworldfilipino, tagalog, it doesn’t matter, they’re the same🤷
It isn't related. Tatala or Tatara in Tao is not a cognate of "star". It's a type of boat. The equivalent in Philippine languages is the "Tataya" of the Batanese islands, which is also a small boat.
Kankanaey star is tala from northern Philippines ❤
Malays also are taiwan indigenous