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Yes, a Filipino guy actually helped revive an almost dead language in Taiwan, when he found out he could read a Dutch translation of an Indigenous Text, the Siraya language. Now him and his Siraya wife are working to fully bring it back.
They are some issues basically - the Out of Taiwan theory only explains a portion of the gene pool and it has some issues as well. They are a couple realistic theories which explains the combination of out of Taiwan and out of Malaya populations that allowed for modern Austronesian to exist. The video also fails to mention existing human population pre Austronesian domination (Austronesian ended up marrying into the local human population pool)
As a Taiwanese with Atayal heritage roots, I would say this is a great video, the Austronesian aspect of Taiwan is really underappreciated even in Taiwanese society itself. A few things to point out: 1. During the Qing dynasty rule, there was a brief time that Chinese immigrant weren't allow to bring their family to Taiwan (the Qing government are afraid of rebellions in Taiwan, so they can only go alone and leave their family in China), so the immigrants (only men) took Taiwanese aboriginal wives in Taiwan. This actually accelerated the expansion, as the Taiwanese aboriginals are matriarchal society as you have pointed out, and thus the land were inherited by the women, in turns the land will pass to the Chinese-Austronesian descendants, which would consider themselves Chinese. The plain tribes were assimilated in the procedure through generations of intermarriages, and thus it is very common that Han Chinese, regardless of Haklo or Hakka, in Taiwan (including myself) to have some Austronesian ancestry. 2. The Mainlanders that came with the Chiang-Kai Shek in 1949 are the minorities (less than 10%) comparing to the Haklo Han Chinese (over 70%), so during the KMT rule, the Taiwanese aboriginal tribes, are actually in a sense allies to the KMT Mainlanders due to historical conflicts with the Haklo majority, this resulted in elite capture, acceleration of assimilation and also the present day political stands, majority of the Taiwanese aboriginals are KMT supporters. 3. The "Han" in 20:37 is in simplify Chinese used in China, in Taiwan it is "漢" instead of "汉".
Genetic tests done on Taiwanese population actually show most of the population does not have any Austronesian ancestry, it is purely urban myth and legend. Hoklo and Hakka Han continue to use this narrative to justify their continued cultural destruction and appropriation of Taiwanese identity from the aboriginal people. Most indigenous Taiwanese don't even support the pro-independence DPP known for their Hoklo chauvinist policies (including the renaming of the Hokkien dialect as 'Taiwanese'), but rather the pro-unification KMT (Kuomintang). Any guess as to why that is?
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WOW! The Nabateans, the Damascus crusade, Dutch colonization of Indonesia, Christian mercs in Muslim empires, the Khazars and now the Austronesians. You guys are killing it!! I love how y'all are making videos on these not so talked about but equally interesting topics. I love these videos which are a fusion of history with a bit of anthropology and culture mixed in. It's just right up my alley! Perfect! Thank you!
Headhunting existed in Kalimantan/Borneo, Indonesia. Although it has been forbidden for decades, an ethnic conflict in early 2000s revived the tradition for several weeks.
As far I know about headhunting : Nagaland (India) Nias-Mentawai, Dayak, Tou Minahasa (Indonesia) Igorot (Philippine) Farmosa (Early Spain-Portugese give call) And I forgot one from Thailand as well.
FUN FACT: Remember that long pause in Polynesian voyaging c800 BCE-c500 CE before they resumed? That actually serves as the basis for the Disney film Moana, in which the title character attempts to revive her culture's ancient seafaring traditions.
The 500ce date for Madagascar is incorrect iirc, Madagascar was colonized after Maritime SEA had already been indicized, possibly by a stranded ship affiliated with the China-India trade under the Srivijaya Empire. It is important to remember not to "orientalize" distant cultures. By 700CE, Austronesians in SEA already possessed "high" civilization due to their continuous trade contacts with the Chinese and Indian civilizations.
@@TheApsodistjust to add Astronesian trade also went to Australia and New Zealand, to some extent South America, Africa and West Asia. They had contact with a lot of cultures and were extremely good at syncretism which is why they hardly had any issues dealing with anyone.
That's just a cartoon from Hollywood dipshit! Maui and Pasifika people were voyaging across the Pacific to America to where they had trade with Natives Americans from Turtle Island aka USA and South America. Pasifika peoples were gifted Kumara aka sweet potato by Indigenous tribes of America and learnt how to farm the seeds for crops. European Colonizers were surprised to discover sweet potato amongst Polynesians.
As an Indonesian, I reallyy envy Polynesians because Disney Moana is so good. Not only the animation is so beautiful, the story is compelling, but the most important thing is Polynesians cultures & way of life actually ingrained within the plotline. Meanwhile, we only have this generic dragon movie called Raya.
@@shandyaMoana could’ve very well happened in the islands of Indonesia. Our cultures could be very similar before the influence of Indian cultures came.
In the early 2000s, New Zealand sent a convoy of Maori to Taiwan to reconnect with their Indigenous relatives. The cultural similarities were quite shocking for the New Zealanders. In Maori culture and most Polynesian cultures there are myths and legends about our mythical homeland Hawaiki. It's quite possible that the legends refer to the Austronesian homeland. It is believed to be the place where our ancestors return after they die.
New Zealanders and Maori seem to be deeply involved in a lot of archeological studies trying to uncover the past. Maori even sent a delegation to compete in the Taiwan Indigenous people games last year.
Hawaiki seems to be an Eastern Polynesian thing, Fakarava in the Tuamotus was once known as Havaiki, Ra’iatea was once known as Havai’i and may refer to sacred or ancestral lands that waka departed from rather than the ultimate origin point for Polynesians. Those words are also a cognate for Savai’i, one of the main islands in Samoa. But in saying that, some place names found in Kiribati myth pretty closely align with places in eastern Indonesia so it’s not completely impossible that they may trace their genealogy that far back, I just find it more likely they’re referring to a more recent place of dispersal.
Taiwan was merely a stepping stone in the Austronesian expansion, which likely originated in southern China. Fujian is the original urheimat of Austronesian language family, evidenced by the Tanshishan, Keqiutou, Dapenkeng neolithic cultures and Liangdao man, Qihe caveman samples tested by archaeogeneticists not just from China but also Taiwan (ROC) who has control over some of the islands of Fujian to this day including Liangdao
It's something I noticed in some ancient taiwanese and other Polynesian cultures have oar weapons that kinda look like a tiaha . Or like they share some ancestry. I thought this after watching another video last year and looking at that ancient Chinese sword they found that was razor sharp. The hilt looks allot like the design of the head on a taiha
Aloha mai Hawaii mai. Greetings from Hawaii. I am an indigenous Native Hawaiian and a Hawaiian language speaker. I want to point out that the word "mahalo" means "thanks" or "appreciation." This doesn't take away from the point of your video. "Ma'alo" and "mahalo" are indeed cognates, but the meaning of cognates can differ depending on the language. Your point on "mata" is a great example, and numbers up to nine are even more similar. It should be mentioned that the English words "tattoo" and "taboo" are borrowed from Polynesian languages, the words "tatau" and "tabu", respectively. This is a wonderful video! It really puts things into perspective for me, as a kanaka maoli. As always, great work, and mahalo for making this great video! Mahalo ia oukou no keia wikio kupanaha! E oluolu e haku i kekahi mau mea nui e ae!
In our language we say "Mabbalô", it also means thank you or an expression to show your appreciation. We really are a single race, and we should be proud of our Austronesian Heritage Ettam iparayag i pinaggafanan tam. Naggafu ta zigatu, anna taggappan, ta sigiran gaddê zitâ, ta kekkadakal nga bebbebay, maguroru sittam ta kalalakian nâ ansestru tam. Parê nakuan i nakám da ay mevulû nittam. Matolay sittam ngamin❤️
Although my ancestors are Han Chinese, as a Taiwanese, I hope that Taiwan can restore its own culture and that we can deepen exchanges with South Island countries to make up for the damage our ancestors did to the aboriginal culture.
I screamed when I opened up YT and saw this video! There’s so much unknown about ancient Polynesian history, but learning about their forebearers is tantalizing to a Samoan history junkie like myself. Thanks so much for this!
As a Filipino/Chinese (Hookien) it’s really cool understanding how important this island was for my ancestors. From migrating across the Pacific to thousands of years later fleeing Mainland to escape the civil war.
I am half Hakka and half Javanese, so I can understand your sentiment because I kinda feel the same... My grandparents from my father side (they are hakka) went to Indonesia seek for a better life because it was Warlord Era in the mainlands.
@@stereo-soulsoundsystem5070 sure you can make that opinion, but the Japanese and Europeans made it worse. You can be anti-Chinese, but you don’t gotta be an ass about it.
Marvelous as always! Please cover the Austronesian expansion into Southeast Asia, Madagascar, and the Pacific also their seafaring technology for the sequel.
Tired of living on a narrow island. There's your ship There is a new technology, namely triangular ship sails. Come on, become a sailor, there are many uninhabited islands waiting.
Greeks are fake end of story 😂 if they conquered nothing 😂 and fought nobodies 😂 Indonesians are literally the only people that fought the Mongols and won 😂 Greeks fought nobody and still lost 😂
You are not sure cause maybe cause we have malay and Indonesian blood also and most specially even Spanish and American or Chinese also who is some part of us and those colonized us
@@waterlily2839_chua Not sure? What are you trying to insinuate. Maybe try to defy in academic terms before spouting opinion. Though the Philippines has been influenced genetically and linguistically by Chinese and Spanish, the great great majority still remains to have more Austronesian origins. Also Malaysia and Indonesia are literally part of Austronesians so why are you saying your not sure if we still are part of Austronesians.
As someone who is Indigenous Taiwanese descent. Thank you for telling our story, most videos on Taiwan starts with invasion of KMT. Few things to consider, we don't like the word 'Aboriginal' but instead 'Indigenous', and the Dutch kicked out the Spanish before the arrival of Koxinga. When KMT enforced Mandarin and forced us to adopt Chinese names, they also nationalized all tribal lands, which is a big land grab. Majority of mines today are on traditional tribal lands. We had everything we needed until KMT took everything away from us. Our language, our names, our lands.
Aborginal and Indigenous more or less mean the same thing. Before the KMT came, the Aborginals were persecuted by the Hokkien majority. The annihilation of the Plains Tribes was pretty much all resulted from Hokkien actions. The KMT actually tried to assimilate and develop Formosan areas (essentially a continuation of Japanese policies but a lot less discriminatory). They are the the reason why there are 6 seats reserved for the Formosans in the Legislature, and why they continue to be a core demographic for KMT support.
Using the Austronesian languages they were also able to roughly guess where the coconut was native/originated from. Austronesian language did not have a name for coconut until they encountered them in the Philippines.
N(y)iur. Interestingly, the most common word for coconut in modern Indonesian n Malay is a sanskrit derived word: 'kelapa'. While afaik, there is no language in the whole Indian sub-continent that uses this word for coconut. One of only a few other language that still use this word for coconut is, wait for it, Northern Sudanese Arabic.
Chamorro here. I've read in our own histories that pre-contact Chamorro society was also matrilineal, women owned the property and that men lived apart in separate communal men's houses. Fascinating to see where that societal practice came from. Thanks for the video!
Now to those Filipinos that think we're Spanish or majorly with Spanish blood, my friends we are not, it is just the last name that was forcefully given to us to make census counting easier. Sadly stripped our own Identity.
Only Jokoy believes that. But the biggest mistake is majority of Filipinos to this day still think ancestors came from Indonesia and malaysia, when in fact it was the opposite.
@@jonmanuelreyes7588yeah, it's not true that Filipinos ancestors came from Indonesia and Malaysia because current Filipinos doesn't have Austroasiatic Admixture were it's very high towards Indonesia and Malaysian
@skylinelover9276 Yeah that's true. Even the austronesian languages in the Philippines are more complex than the austronesian languages in Indonesia and Malaysia. For example "ulap" means clouds in tagalog and it has the same meaning in Bahasa Indonesia and Malaysia, but to the Indonesians and Malaysians "ulap" is an old term for clouds and it's so old they don't even use it. That just proves the "Out of Taiwan" theory is correct.
It was the Filipinos who mainly stripped their identity, I mean you can still see it today, hordes of young Filipino parents raising monolingual English-speaking kids in the Philippines. Filipinos are always willing to discard their identity in the name of "practicality". While colonizers have their own part, I think at the end of the day, the decision is still with us Filipinos whether we retain it or not, and sadly, we do not really treasure our own heritage.
There's a movie on the indigenous tribe of Seediq, detailing the last indigenous uprising against Japan in 1930, called Warriors of the Rainbow: Seediq Bale, it was a two part movie part one called Sun flag and part two called Rainbow bridge. The movie detailed the event leading up to the Wushe incident and its aftermath, and the life of Indigenous Formosan under Japanese rule.
Taiwanese here. Thank you for making this video. Most of the contents I already had knowledge of, but there are some that I didn't know. For example, the linguistic diversity part.
@@champaputih4568 yes, and they also spreading islam in java, some of early javanese wali came from champa first then to java, here we called the council of wali sanga
Thank you Cham people for bringing Islam to Java which freed us from the domination of the Saka-descended upper castes. I wish your people can be independent in your lands.
@@cakwan01The Champa people orginal land is located from the present day central to southern Vietnam. Most Champa people fled to Cambodia after the kingdom lost in a war against the Viet at the end of 15th century. Currently there are less than 200,000 Chams in Vietnam.
Everytime I see a video on our Austronesian roots ,I come to watch and read the comments just because it feels wonderful to see our cousins from across the world. Hello Austronesia from a proud Polynesian!
Austronesian influence played a key role in the development of Sri Lankan culture too. we owe a lot of our culture and food habits to them. People here have around 10% Austronesian related genetic input on average.
@@GalaxySeeker-z8h do you want to give a specific source or example? The scope of this video is Neolithic pre history whereas you are talking about what I assume to be spice trade related
@@bopndop2347 there are Malays kingdom in 13th century.Its called Tambraligga (nowdays Nakhon Sri Thammarat in Thailand) they had had small Malay Sri Lanka community thats speak Malay with Sri Lanka grammar
That is why in Indonesia there is an old song NENEK MOYANGKU SEORANG PELAUT "our Ancestor was a sailor" maybe story Telling about their voyage to the land of Indonesia 😊
After watched this video, mungkin itu juga ada hubungannya ya budaya anak laki-laki merantau... when young man leave their hometown to seek their own place in the world...
If this is the first time you want to learn about the history of Taiwan, that's very enugh. As a Taiwanese, when my dad went to see his DNA report, he said he has Italian, majority Taiwanese aboriginal, Vietnamese, and African ancestry, no Chinese ancestry at all, that I'm so surprised. My face is more similar to the faces of Austronesian people than the faces of Chinese people. It can be confirmed that Taiwan has more connections with Southeast Asia than China. We are also currently promoting the resurgence of mother tongue. It is really not easy. Thank you for making this video.
@@taoliu3949 Not 100%, but it also proves that Taiwanese ancestry is very diverse. I don't know what you want to express, I'm just sharing my life experience Relax, okay?
@@taoliu3949 Yeah, I mean there's a connection. But I feel like you're denying my family's DNA In that paragraph, I was referring to the island of Taiwan, not the people.
Devin, this exposé was a very nice change of pace. It wasn't your traditional army-vs.-army Kings and Generals video. I appreciate your team's time and efforts. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🙋🏻♂️🇺🇸🤝🇬🇧
Taiwanese American here. My cousin's wife is from one of the tribes. The taboo about women and weapons is still a thing. I offered to take them shooting when they visit and was told she can't touch the guns.
As a Bikolano of the 5th Region of the Philippines, I bid good tidings to my Austronesian Brothers and Sisters! I look forward to visiting Taiwan one of these days EDIT: The 15 dislikes are from CCP bots
I've got zero genetic or cultural connection to these people, but they fascinate me. Between this vid and the one on the Yue, this channel opened my eyes to a whole new world.
I think it would be wonderful if you could create more videos about Indigenous people, such as the Assyrians (from Ashurbanipal to the Sayfo), the Hawaiians, the Urartians, the Samaritans, the Sri Lankan Tamils, and others!
ASSYRIA ❤❤❤ the best civilization in civ 5 Btw they still exist they are 5 millions most of them reside in western countries due to mass immigration after the sayfo (genocide of 1915), the simele massacre 1933, conflict between the kurdish pkk and the turkish governemt in the 70' and 80', terrorist organisations like DAECH, and much more...
I might be biased as a SEA person, but this region is my favorite with regard to history and culture. Imagine what mysteries lie in those jungles yet to be uncovered. And in the sea where the land was flooded.
Fun fact: The Japanese recruited some of the indigenous tribesmen for their skill in jungle warfare during WW2, knowing as the "Takasago Volunteers". Using them as some sort of special forces, they can also communicate with the local indigenous people of south east Asia.
@@uryen921 They are some mistakes here in the post. You are correct about the Japanese recruitments (they also recruited across south east asia, similarly so did the allies). Most of them could not communicate with indigenous people of south east asia tho. Speaking as an indigenous south east asian from Central SEA (Combination of culture of Ancestral Taiwanese, Aboriginal SEA and Ancestral Sundalnd). K&G left out how SEA is made out of the later two groups as well. As for languages most languages are not mutually intelligible aside from the Malayic / Malay Languages eg: Malaysian, Indonesian, Bruneian, Malay Papau, Siam Malay, Singaporean, Sulu Malay and so fourth. They were required for their ability to fight in Tropical and Sub tropical climate not due to their language skills and even if they were recruited for the language skill it would have been useless. They wouldn’t have been able to communicate with the Native Murut, Papau, Malay, Filipino, Thai, Javanese, Balinese, Cambodian, Fijian, Vietnamese etc
Actually most of the Takasago volunteers as well as han Taiwanese recruited were used as labors rather than soldiers. Only a small number actually serve in combat unit.
@@robihamdani5385 another not so fun fact is that the Japanese government still denies 99% of their war crimes and has monuments honoring the war criminals
Taiwan was ruled by KMT from China from 1945 to 2000. KMT and the Chinese refugee of 1949 were only around 12% of Taiwan's population, but ruled over Taiwan for around 50 years. After Taiwan turned democracy, Taiwan is now ruled by DPP founded in Taiwan and is pro Taiwan independence. The former Taiwan president Tsai is a mix of early Hakka Chinese immigrant and Paiwan aboriginal. It was KMT that claimed to be China, but not Taiwan or Taiwanese. A lot of people know Taiwan through old KMT's propaganda.
I thought it was really cool that the Taiwanese government sponsored this video, that is truly a novel idea that a government agency would pay an outlet like Kings and Generals to tell the world about its indigenous peoples' history, I think many other countries could learn from that.
@Horus-j3fYeah, One of the dudes in my friend group literally calls any person in a five mile radius a N word. If that's not an example of Taiwanese racism idk what is.
Thank you - I've recently understood that my maternal grandma is Amis, and I understand my mom's trauma, and why she was sensitive around the hokkien term, "huanna," and her feeling like a second class citizen wasn't solely because her dad was from the mainland, but really because her mom was indigenous. I was born and raised in the US, but retained my hokkien language and thought I did good to preserve it - but it was just another layer of colonization, and need to see how I can learn Amis.
I'm a big fan of your channel who happens to be from Taiwan. This, my friend, is probably the best video about the history of Formosa (aka Taiwan), in terms of both research and production quality. Keep up the great work!
So much alike to the Naga people of India, Myanmar. Head hunting, living in communal houses separated by gender, and even the Bamboo dances like Tinikling.
@@rapmamori4136true, im batak from sumatra and there are so many similarities we have with some tribes from northeast india and myanmar, like the mizo people. kra-dai, austroasiatic and surrounding people are related in one way or another
just wanted to say how much I like your content and presentation style; and perhaps on a topic that doesn't get mentioned as often, i especially like the way you balance your audio recording. the music is not over powering, and the dialogue is equalized perfectly for my old ears, and my less than stellar pc speakers. its never muddy sounding, you don't shout at me, and the words are very clear and can be easily understood even at lower volumes. i have bailed on so many channels that perhaps otherwise have good content, but their audio is insufferable to listen to. keep up the good work!
"Nenek moyang-ku adalah seorang pelaut". I thought that phrase only describing the mighty Majapahit navy. Now, I realized this phrase is also a homage to the Austronesians seafaring prowess.
To be honest i've never actually remember majapahit when someone mentioned those words, but rather pre hindu-buddhist indonesian society who practices animism and dynamism according to our school history books.
Ironically some Hindus, Buddhists and "aliran kepercayaan" especially in Java and Bali believes that Indonesians were descended from Saka Aryans, which were nomadic horsemen barbarians. That shows how a foreign culture that dominated you for around 1500 years can brainwash you.
@@luman8850javanese..sundanese..balinese are mix austroasiatic and austronesian...but have less austronesian compare to peoples from sumatera and malaya.. More close related to thai and cambodian peoples...
Speaking of stones, some Polynesian tribes used massive stones as currency. Imagine shipping those on canoes. (Good thing they still good money even underwater)
This is a very, very, VERY well-researched episode 👏 As a Taiwanese-American of partial Plains Aboriginal ancestry, and an astute student of the subject matter, my hat's off to you! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🙋♂️
Just want to join in the praise for this video. Finally a completely correct non-sinocentric account of Taiwan's history on its own terms. May it be spread far and wide. Bravo, King and Generals, bravo!
@@夏沐飛魚They are suspected to come from Mainland China. Before the domination of the ethnic Han Chinese and the formation of the first Chinese Empire, there were a LOT of various tribes. Austronesians are suspected to be one of them on the southern side of China. Who subsequently migrated to Taiwan thousands of years ago.
A much under-appreciated topic. Technologically one of the most significant migrations in human history. You should delve more into the boats that made this possible.
This makes Moana's story of their ancestors travelling on those big boats across the Pacific much more compelling. The People Of The Pacific (and Indian) Ocean are really just very very very very distant cousins.
Excellent initiative in doing this video! I always wondered about this community and we love to hear it! I hope we can revive these cultures in a positive way as much as possible in the future. I hear they still have a long way to go though with many tribes still having huge problems with alcoholism and lack of education.
Sadly Taiwan isnt even Austronesian anymore. Its Chinese considering the Chinese population heavily outnumber the austronesians. The austronesian languages are almost non existant in that island, but thats what unfortunately happens when the newcomers outnumber the natives...
I was born in Taiwan but raised in New Zealand. My mother always said the indigenous Māori elderly women looks just like the one she met in Taiwan. So similar that she once start speaking Chinese to one on the road. It was kind of funny because obviously the elderly Māori woman couldn’t understand what she was saying
Thank you for making a film about Taiwanese history. But I want to add one thing: In 1624 AD, the Dutch occupied southern Taiwan. In 1626, the Spanish Empire occupied northern Taiwan, which lasted until 1642, when the Dutch sent a large army north to expel the Spanish. Spain's 16-year rule over northern Taiwan ends. This period of history is very important to the history of Taiwan during the Age of Discovery in the 17th century.
even in modern taiwan i saw lots of austronesian looking people when i visited last year. i was surprised to see some tall and brown skinned asians there
Brown skin isn’t a trait of Astronesian people - this is a bit of a misconception. Astronesian skin complexity ranges from whiter than snow to black as ashes. This is due to phenotype development being varied - in general they are able to tan more but also lose those tans quickly when in door. For example- I come from a unique ethnic group that is aboriginal to an island in south east Asia whose phenotype is whiter than white people despite living in the equator - we can tan fast tho while on the same island or neighbouring we have people who are extremely dark skin or varying shades of brown. It should also be noted height heavily varies by ethnic group as well.
I taught in the public school system there for two years, in an area with lots of Atayal people. Many of my students were clearly not 100% Han Chinese, yet only about 1% of my students identified as having Indigenous blood. The Sinicization is real, and ongoing (subconsciously, if no longer officially).
Also... there are over 800,000 Filipinos and Indonesians working in Taiwan these days, so I'm sure at least some of the people you saw were Filipino or Indonesian.
@@DavidGravesExists i think taiwanese aborigines are taller than filipinos and indonesians. the dutch described them as towering over europeans and chinese. but i think i can tell the difference if not by looks but by demeanor and language
There are some Taiwan tribes in the west coast that is significantly whiter than people with chinese heritage. And actually most Taiwanese are assimilated Austronesian, it was the KMT thought it was a good idea to include all Austronesian who spoke Taiwanese as "chinese". When Japan took over Taiwan, there were merely less than 100k resident with chinese heritage. and Some how when KMT took the island over, there were 6 million "chinese". we are not rabbits, okay.... regarding us as the integral part of chinese speaking world is just a propaganda from china and misled TLDR for Western audience.
Im mixed race Māori and European, Im a native speaker of New Zealand Māori and grew up speaking Gaelic and later English (around age six or seven) having been to Taiwan for a Māori/Formosan cultural exchange, i can tell you that the link between us Polynesian people and the Indigenous people of Taiwan. I can't fully explain the feeling, but from the time i stepped off the plane it was like a part of me recognised that i had arrived at an area sacred to my ancestors. It was the same type of feeling I'd get when visiting "waahi tapu" around New Zealand which is Māori for sacred site, or site of cultural significance. My own belief is that a large group of people left Taiwan and moved down to the Philippines, within ten generations groups moved out toward South East Asia. A few generations later a group left that area and moved out to Tonga and Samoa. While there, the Austronesian people intermarried with some Melanesians. Our DNA says that our mitochondrial DNA (Inherited through the female line) is Austronesian and the Y strand is Melanesian. This leads many to theorise that there was conflict upon meeting and the majority of Austronesian males were slaughtered leaving the females behind to intermarry with the Melanesian people. While they were living on Samoa and Tonga they developed their own unique culture. A group later left and settled in the Marquesas/French Polynesia. This is where Eastern Polynesian culture developed. Carrying on in the spirit of discovering new lands, one group left and sailed northwest to Hawaii. Another group sailed southwest and settled in the Cook Islands (Rarotonga, Aitutaki etc) Maori culture and language developed there and after a few generations, seven waka migrated south west to New Zealand. Later still, a group of Māori left New Zealand and settled the Chatham islands becoming what we now know as Moriori.
As an Austronesian of mixed Indonesian and Filipino heritage, I'm honored to have visited this ancestral island. May its indigenous culture endure in the years to come.
I am Filipino living in the mountains and my great grandfather was a chieftain. To be chieftain you must kill 7 people. No tattoos in our part, mostly practiced by island people. Rainbows are bridges used by fairies and also an locator of hidden gold.
I am Indonesian from Java island. Pelangi (rainbow) is a bridge used by bidadari (female angel) to descend from langit (sky) to tanah (earth). On earth, bidadari will take a bath. 😂
As a Taiwanese SCP writer, I think the indigenous culture in Taiwan is a precious treasure to preserve. I also like the movie Seediq Bale and the series Seqalu which depict the era well
This is genuinely interesting: I had no idea Taiwan was Austronesian. I wonder if they have conversations about the Hans as most of the world does around Western colonisation
@rizkyadiyanto7922 you mean when europeans brought China into the first the 20th century with industrialization then the 21st century with trade deals?
I like the sponsor of the video is Taiwan entity. That shows that the official government don’t shy away from the past and are not pushing indigenous people anymore.
我上大學生命科學先修課程，老師有曾經講過：根據人類史料，智人遷徙亞洲分兩次，早亞洲人(5萬年前)與晚亞洲人(1萬年前)。早亞洲人走海路：經過印度、東南亞，最後到日本及中國北方；晚亞洲人走陸路：從印度北方進到中國，我們現在熟悉的漢人就是晚亞洲人演化而來。我推測南島語族(Austronesian)可能是早亞洲人的一種分支。 And thanks for making this video, I gained more knowledge about these indigenous people that hadn't noticed in my textbook when I was in senior high.👍
When I took a DNA test, years ago, I found out I had 3% aboriginal Taiwanese, and 3% Malay-Polynesian. I tried researching my ancestries with Google but nothing through it was as descriptive as this video which I am grateful for being able to answer questions I had about my ancestries' cultures and histories.
This is so interesting because the Chin people the hillland of Myanmar also has a very similar culture to the Indigenous people of the Taiwan. The way we dress, the head hunting, and even the facial tattoo are very similar. But how can that be, we are so inland and history taught us that we are more closely related or descendant of the Tibetan or Mongolian. But still very interesting topic and video. Amazing job as always!
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Sir you didn't mention the native people of Ryukyu islands who is also related to Austronesian people's
@KingsandGenerals
i think even Naga tribes has their origin/ related to Taiwanese aboriginals.
So basically Indonesian and Philippinos who work as migrant worker in Taiwan are actually the one who going back to their ancester land
Yes, a Filipino guy actually helped revive an almost dead language in Taiwan, when he found out he could read a Dutch translation of an Indigenous Text, the Siraya language. Now him and his Siraya wife are working to fully bring it back.
They are some issues basically - the Out of Taiwan theory only explains a portion of the gene pool and it has some issues as well.
They are a couple realistic theories which explains the combination of out of Taiwan and out of Malaya populations that allowed for modern Austronesian to exist.
The video also fails to mention existing human population pre Austronesian domination (Austronesian ended up marrying into the local human population pool)
The homeland will be free
@@teamjam2863 nah, its well-known that western part of indonesia and malaysia (the sundaland) has like half austronesian half austroasiatic genes.
reminds me of the J people... except theyre not violent.
As a Taiwanese with Atayal heritage roots, I would say this is a great video, the Austronesian aspect of Taiwan is really underappreciated even in Taiwanese society itself.
A few things to point out:
1. During the Qing dynasty rule, there was a brief time that Chinese immigrant weren't allow to bring their family to Taiwan (the Qing government are afraid of rebellions in Taiwan, so they can only go alone and leave their family in China), so the immigrants (only men) took Taiwanese aboriginal wives in Taiwan. This actually accelerated the expansion, as the Taiwanese aboriginals are matriarchal society as you have pointed out, and thus the land were inherited by the women, in turns the land will pass to the Chinese-Austronesian descendants, which would consider themselves Chinese. The plain tribes were assimilated in the procedure through generations of intermarriages, and thus it is very common that Han Chinese, regardless of Haklo or Hakka, in Taiwan (including myself) to have some Austronesian ancestry.
2. The Mainlanders that came with the Chiang-Kai Shek in 1949 are the minorities (less than 10%) comparing to the Haklo Han Chinese (over 70%), so during the KMT rule, the Taiwanese aboriginal tribes, are actually in a sense allies to the KMT Mainlanders due to historical conflicts with the Haklo majority, this resulted in elite capture, acceleration of assimilation and also the present day political stands, majority of the Taiwanese aboriginals are KMT supporters.
3. The "Han" in 20:37 is in simplify Chinese used in China, in Taiwan it is "漢" instead of "汉".
Get off the Chinese, make Austranesian great again.
Genetic tests done on Taiwanese population actually show most of the population does not have any Austronesian ancestry, it is purely urban myth and legend. Hoklo and Hakka Han continue to use this narrative to justify their continued cultural destruction and appropriation of Taiwanese identity from the aboriginal people. Most indigenous Taiwanese don't even support the pro-independence DPP known for their Hoklo chauvinist policies (including the renaming of the Hokkien dialect as 'Taiwanese'), but rather the pro-unification KMT (Kuomintang). Any guess as to why that is?
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@@henrydelta1165 this is absolutely true indeed.
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WOW! The Nabateans, the Damascus crusade, Dutch colonization of Indonesia, Christian mercs in Muslim empires, the Khazars and now the Austronesians. You guys are killing it!! I love how y'all are making videos on these not so talked about but equally interesting topics. I love these videos which are a fusion of history with a bit of anthropology and culture mixed in. It's just right up my alley! Perfect! Thank you!
@@riteshyeddu They should do the YAMNAYA as they are the original indo-europeans
I am Taiwanese and I am so shock that this is the first channel that really study about Taiwan history, amazing work
Get off the all Chinese, make Austranesian great again.
@@Muhammadpeaceland LOL
@@Muhammadpeacelandmy actual stance about Taiwan Question.
@@Muhammadpeaceland問題是你怎麼定義血統上的中國人，絕大多數原住民和漢人在歷史上互相交配，彼此都有互相的血脈，理論上國民黨輸掉後帶來的難民是最接近你所說的中國人，但這群人的後代現在也自認台灣人，這就像把美國人趕回英國，即使他自認美國人
@@吾乃起名廢 美國人之所以能稱自己是美國人是因為他們打贏了英國人，台灣被打跑到台灣省不要臉的想假裝自己是台灣人
Madagascar here.
Thank you for this. And much love to our beloved cousins across the ocean.
You will never be a austronesian
Corny ass @@jvictor16
@@jvictor16 He is AUSTRONESIAN
Stressfully @@jvictor16
@@jvictor16all Austronesian lived in island including Malagasy too of course
Headhunting existed in Kalimantan/Borneo, Indonesia. Although it has been forbidden for decades, an ethnic conflict in early 2000s revived the tradition for several weeks.
Ah, Sampit Tragedy.
It was forbidden by dutch missionaries and government, but the rules were broken because the borneo natives had a common enemy
Headhunting/ngayau. Even in europe celts and iceni britons also doing that
As far I know about headhunting :
Nagaland (India)
Nias-Mentawai, Dayak, Tou Minahasa (Indonesia)
Igorot (Philippine)
Farmosa (Early Spain-Portugese give call)
And I forgot one from Thailand as well.
@@GomerMcintyre i heard myanmar also had this headhunting culture
FUN FACT: Remember that long pause in Polynesian voyaging c800 BCE-c500 CE before they resumed? That actually serves as the basis for the Disney film Moana, in which the title character attempts to revive her culture's ancient seafaring traditions.
The 500ce date for Madagascar is incorrect iirc, Madagascar was colonized after Maritime SEA had already been indicized, possibly by a stranded ship affiliated with the China-India trade under the Srivijaya Empire.
It is important to remember not to "orientalize" distant cultures. By 700CE, Austronesians in SEA already possessed "high" civilization due to their continuous trade contacts with the Chinese and Indian civilizations.
@@TheApsodistjust to add Astronesian trade also went to Australia and New Zealand, to some extent South America, Africa and West Asia.
They had contact with a lot of cultures and were extremely good at syncretism which is why they hardly had any issues dealing with anyone.
That's just a cartoon from Hollywood dipshit! Maui and Pasifika people were voyaging across the Pacific to America to where they had trade with Natives Americans from Turtle Island aka USA and South America. Pasifika peoples were gifted Kumara aka sweet potato by Indigenous tribes of America and learnt how to farm the seeds for crops. European Colonizers were surprised to discover sweet potato amongst Polynesians.
As an Indonesian, I reallyy envy Polynesians because Disney Moana is so good. Not only the animation is so beautiful, the story is compelling, but the most important thing is Polynesians cultures & way of life actually ingrained within the plotline.
Meanwhile, we only have this generic dragon movie called Raya.
@@shandyaMoana could’ve very well happened in the islands of Indonesia. Our cultures could be very similar before the influence of Indian cultures came.
In the early 2000s, New Zealand sent a convoy of Maori to Taiwan to reconnect with their Indigenous relatives. The cultural similarities were quite shocking for the New Zealanders.
In Maori culture and most Polynesian cultures there are myths and legends about our mythical homeland Hawaiki. It's quite possible that the legends refer to the Austronesian homeland. It is believed to be the place where our ancestors return after they die.
問題是,,最早在台灣的原住民是從哪裡來的,,,,,你們應該說不清處吧,,,,
New Zealanders and Maori seem to be deeply involved in a lot of archeological studies trying to uncover the past. Maori even sent a delegation to compete in the Taiwan Indigenous people games last year.
Hawaiki seems to be an Eastern Polynesian thing, Fakarava in the Tuamotus was once known as Havaiki, Ra’iatea was once known as Havai’i and may refer to sacred or ancestral lands that waka departed from rather than the ultimate origin point for Polynesians. Those words are also a cognate for Savai’i, one of the main islands in Samoa. But in saying that, some place names found in Kiribati myth pretty closely align with places in eastern Indonesia so it’s not completely impossible that they may trace their genealogy that far back, I just find it more likely they’re referring to a more recent place of dispersal.
Taiwan was merely a stepping stone in the Austronesian expansion, which likely originated in southern China. Fujian is the original urheimat of Austronesian language family, evidenced by the Tanshishan, Keqiutou, Dapenkeng neolithic cultures and Liangdao man, Qihe caveman samples tested by archaeogeneticists not just from China but also Taiwan (ROC) who has control over some of the islands of Fujian to this day including Liangdao
It's something I noticed in some ancient taiwanese and other Polynesian cultures have oar weapons that kinda look like a tiaha . Or like they share some ancestry. I thought this after watching another video last year and looking at that ancient Chinese sword they found that was razor sharp. The hilt looks allot like the design of the head on a taiha
"Taiwan is seen as an integral part of the Chinese Speaking World." Damn, well worded for maximum lack of offense. Well done.
Smooth offender
Update: 16:00 mark, maybe your Social Credit Score isn't as safe as I initially thought.
Final Edit: Oh, now I see who the sponsor of the video is.
There are chinese people outside China
@@caesarmatty Btw u could find the story of 'social credits' in everywhere of the world, except China mainland itself
@@Lja9the opposite
Aloha mai Hawaii mai. Greetings from Hawaii. I am an indigenous Native Hawaiian and a Hawaiian language speaker.
I want to point out that the word "mahalo" means "thanks" or "appreciation." This doesn't take away from the point of your video. "Ma'alo" and "mahalo" are indeed cognates, but the meaning of cognates can differ depending on the language. Your point on "mata" is a great example, and numbers up to nine are even more similar.
It should be mentioned that the English words "tattoo" and "taboo" are borrowed from Polynesian languages, the words "tatau" and "tabu", respectively.
This is a wonderful video! It really puts things into perspective for me, as a kanaka maoli. As always, great work, and mahalo for making this great video!
Mahalo ia oukou no keia wikio kupanaha! E oluolu e haku i kekahi mau mea nui e ae!
In our language we say "Mabbalô", it also means thank you or an expression to show your appreciation. We really are a single race, and we should be proud of our Austronesian Heritage
Ettam iparayag i pinaggafanan tam. Naggafu ta zigatu, anna taggappan, ta sigiran gaddê zitâ, ta kekkadakal nga bebbebay, maguroru sittam ta kalalakian nâ ansestru tam. Parê nakuan i nakám da ay mevulû nittam. Matolay sittam ngamin❤️
Lima "5" family.
Lima (5) family.
what's your fb, ill add you to Austronesian fb group
what is your fb, ill add uuu you on Austronesian fb group, we need native Hawaiian speaker there
Although my ancestors are Han Chinese, as a Taiwanese, I hope that Taiwan can restore its own culture and that we can deepen exchanges with South Island countries to make up for the damage our ancestors did to the aboriginal culture.
Yes, I wish that too
只能說小的原住民族群快斷根了
我媽會聽不會講，根本沒辦法傳承給下一代，我這代只能自己上網學，但資源真的少得可憐，我高中讀台中的明星學校，要學太魯閣族語根本沒人能教，只有排灣和阿美這種大族群才有人，但語法和單字差異很大，根本沒辦法學，更不用說其他資源更少的學校了，只能說政府要保護文化，依我個人經驗來看只是口頭上說說的🤡而已
@@Paru_0907 但政府還是有投入資金在原住民發展上，但如果沒有統一性的實施，就算有錢也沒有用。
可以寫信至文化部反應，部落的狀況以及族群發展、復興語言的困難，雖然等待回覆的時間很長，但有和官方反應至少有為自己反應、爭取過。
文化無法傳承至下一代真的感到難過。
This is very heartwarming to read. Thank you. Yes, let's always endeavor to value and preserve aboriginal cultures ☺️👍🏻❤️
Unfortunately, Liberal agenda also ruined the traditional costumes in Taiwan.
From madagascar to South America and everywhere in between, now thats what you call an EPIC VOYAGE!!
except Europe
@@sahkogilewhy would they go to Europe? Lol tf
@@danserevi4569 just saying tho
Europe is too cold for them.
I screamed when I opened up YT and saw this video! There’s so much unknown about ancient Polynesian history, but learning about their forebearers is tantalizing to a Samoan history junkie like myself. Thanks so much for this!
Where can I learn Somoan history....any books?
Hey uso.
especially in the polynesian community, i feel like this part of our history is always overlooked
@@Eagler-yc7yx it depends on what you're looking for. nz articles contain a lot of documents for samoan communities
@@Eagler-yc7yxthere nothing because pacific islands nations has almost no history.
Hello from Indonesia to my Lima (5) gangs!!
Rima (5) New Zealand (Aotearoa) Mata (eye)
same in ph
lima and mata gang from 🇵🇭
Putang inamo : PH
Bujang inammu : Batak Indonesia
Same meaning 😂😂
LIMA GANG! MATA GANG!
As a Filipino/Chinese (Hookien) it’s really cool understanding how important this island was for my ancestors. From migrating across the Pacific to thousands of years later fleeing Mainland to escape the civil war.
di e-hiau kong lan-nang-ue bo?
I am half Hakka and half Javanese, so I can understand your sentiment because I kinda feel the same...
My grandparents from my father side (they are hakka) went to Indonesia seek for a better life because it was Warlord Era in the mainlands.
Would have been better if your family didn't have to flee because Chinese wars ruined Taiwan for the natives who never bothered them
@@stereo-soulsoundsystem5070 sure you can make that opinion, but the Japanese and Europeans made it worse. You can be anti-Chinese, but you don’t gotta be an ass about it.
@@xXxSkyViperxXx he probably can, but can't read what you're saying 😂
Marvelous as always! Please cover the Austronesian expansion into Southeast Asia, Madagascar, and the Pacific also their seafaring technology for the sequel.
Yes please as an Austronesian I would like to learn more about this part of Austronesian history.
@luthfilofianda3999 I also recommend you watch the video on the Nanman tribes, I think it’s on the same topic
the outrigger canoe
Taiwanese : All young boys must leave the home, live in man-caves and train as warriors.
Sparta : "intense scribbling"
Tired of living on a narrow island. There's your ship There is a new technology, namely triangular ship sails. Come on, become a sailor, there are many uninhabited islands waiting.
@JunitafluxcyfatriciaJunita sailing is just as risky as war.
Greeks are fake end of story 😂 if they conquered nothing 😂 and fought nobodies 😂 Indonesians are literally the only people that fought the Mongols and won 😂 Greeks fought nobody and still lost 😂
@@JunitafluxcyfatriciaJunita sail back when you only have half of your coconut rations
@@hentype Fishing fish
Greetings from the Truku tribe of Taiwan, thank you for sharing information about Taiwan’s indigenous people🙏
Love from Philippines, the brothers of the indigenous tribes.
You are not sure cause maybe cause we have malay and Indonesian blood also and most specially even Spanish and American or Chinese also who is some part of us and those colonized us
@@waterlily2839_chuaIndonesia and Malaysian are mixed austronesian and Austroasiatic, Filipinos were one sided austronesian. Learn more about it.
@@waterlily2839_chuaif you don't use your brain, instead you used your hatred= fail opinion
Nay. PHILIPPINE is a vassal state of USA. 😂
@@waterlily2839_chua Not sure? What are you trying to insinuate. Maybe try to defy in academic terms before spouting opinion. Though the Philippines has been influenced genetically and linguistically by Chinese and Spanish, the great great majority still remains to have more Austronesian origins. Also Malaysia and Indonesia are literally part of Austronesians so why are you saying your not sure if we still are part of Austronesians.
A wonderful video, thank you KnG for making it; Cheers from Malaysia.
As someone who is Indigenous Taiwanese descent. Thank you for telling our story, most videos on Taiwan starts with invasion of KMT. Few things to consider, we don't like the word 'Aboriginal' but instead 'Indigenous', and the Dutch kicked out the Spanish before the arrival of Koxinga. When KMT enforced Mandarin and forced us to adopt Chinese names, they also nationalized all tribal lands, which is a big land grab. Majority of mines today are on traditional tribal lands. We had everything we needed until KMT took everything away from us. Our language, our names, our lands.
Aborginal and Indigenous more or less mean the same thing.
Before the KMT came, the Aborginals were persecuted by the Hokkien majority. The annihilation of the Plains Tribes was pretty much all resulted from Hokkien actions.
The KMT actually tried to assimilate and develop Formosan areas (essentially a continuation of Japanese policies but a lot less discriminatory). They are the the reason why there are 6 seats reserved for the Formosans in the Legislature, and why they continue to be a core demographic for KMT support.
問題是,,最早在台灣的原住民是從哪裡來的,,,,,你們應該說不清處吧,,,,
@@夏沐飛魚one of the many first waves out of Africa, my educated guess would be the second larger wave. (The first going to Papua and Melanesia)
你們怎麼不說日本人如何迫害原住民,原住民的英雄莫那魯道為什麼會帶領賽德克巴萊反抗日本人,,事實上台灣的原住民一直享受著優待,那是從國民黨時代至今,,你們55歲就可領老人年金考試還能加分,什麼叫國民黨入侵,,當日本人無條件投降時台灣本來就回歸中國,日本組織高砂義勇軍,,其實是敢死隊,,原住民男的被當炮灰女的被當軍妓,,誰奪走你們的語言,,誰奪走你們的土地,,頭腦清處點別亂說,,
@@夏沐飛魚和大陆的少数民族一样享受着汉族没有的高考加分还有各种补贴政策还在外网说中央政府霸占他们的土地强迫他们学习汉族文化真是应了那句古话非我族类 其心必异
Using the Austronesian languages they were also able to roughly guess where the coconut was native/originated from. Austronesian language did not have a name for coconut until they encountered them in the Philippines.
N(y)iur.
Interestingly, the most common word for coconut in modern Indonesian n Malay is a sanskrit derived word: 'kelapa'. While afaik, there is no language in the whole Indian sub-continent that uses this word for coconut.
One of only a few other language that still use this word for coconut is, wait for it, Northern Sudanese Arabic.
It's Níyog or Lúbi in Philippines. Buko or Bútong for young coconut.
Niyur
"Nyuk" pronounced as "ñuk" in my language
Yes, Filipino Austronesians may have been the first to cultivate the coconut.
Chamorro here. I've read in our own histories that pre-contact Chamorro society was also matrilineal, women owned the property and that men lived apart in separate communal men's houses. Fascinating to see where that societal practice came from. Thanks for the video!
"Lima" and "Mata" brotherhood 🎉🎉🎉
5 and eyes, love from your 🇫🇯 brother
And "Ina", which means "mother"
@@kingyo_paraen indeed and ina
So are East Asians your relative or not?
@@raphaelbarina..ama..ine,ema😂mata,lima,esa,telu,nio,😂
Now to those Filipinos that think we're Spanish or majorly with Spanish blood, my friends we are not, it is just the last name that was forcefully given to us to make census counting easier. Sadly stripped our own Identity.
Only Jokoy believes that. But the biggest mistake is majority of Filipinos to this day still think ancestors came from Indonesia and malaysia, when in fact it was the opposite.
@@jonmanuelreyes7588yeah, it's not true that Filipinos ancestors came from Indonesia and Malaysia because current Filipinos doesn't have Austroasiatic Admixture were it's very high towards Indonesia and Malaysian
@skylinelover9276 Yeah that's true. Even the austronesian languages in the Philippines are more complex than the austronesian languages in Indonesia and Malaysia. For example "ulap" means clouds in tagalog and it has the same meaning in Bahasa Indonesia and Malaysia, but to the Indonesians and Malaysians "ulap" is an old term for clouds and it's so old they don't even use it. That just proves the "Out of Taiwan" theory is correct.
It was the Filipinos who mainly stripped their identity, I mean you can still see it today, hordes of young Filipino parents raising monolingual English-speaking kids in the Philippines. Filipinos are always willing to discard their identity in the name of "practicality". While colonizers have their own part, I think at the end of the day, the decision is still with us Filipinos whether we retain it or not, and sadly, we do not really treasure our own heritage.
Kinasusuklaman ko ang mga pinoy nahindi marunong mag salita ng kanilang sarili g mga wika
thank you guys so much for making videos on non-european or non-old world themes
A video of the Lima gang is always a welcome one.
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There's a movie on the indigenous tribe of Seediq, detailing the last indigenous uprising against Japan in 1930, called Warriors of the Rainbow: Seediq Bale, it was a two part movie part one called Sun flag and part two called Rainbow bridge. The movie detailed the event leading up to the Wushe incident and its aftermath, and the life of Indigenous Formosan under Japanese rule.
Beautiful movie. I say there there needs to be more.
Taiwanese here. Thank you for making this video. Most of the contents I already had knowledge of, but there are some that I didn't know. For example, the linguistic diversity part.
I am a Cham live in Cambodia. Cham is a member of this large subgroup of Austronesian
in majapahit - early islam era in java island we have wali aka muslim scholar that came from champa kingdom
@@nurkholis6975
Many wali were born in Champa
@@champaputih4568 yes, and they also spreading islam in java, some of early javanese wali came from champa first then to java, here we called the council of wali sanga
Thank you Cham people for bringing Islam to Java which freed us from the domination of the Saka-descended upper castes. I wish your people can be independent in your lands.
@@cakwan01The Champa people orginal land is located from the present day central to southern Vietnam.
Most Champa people fled to Cambodia after the kingdom lost in a war against the Viet at the end of 15th century.
Currently there are less than 200,000 Chams in Vietnam.
Everytime I see a video on our Austronesian roots ,I come to watch and read the comments just because it feels wonderful to see our cousins from across the world. Hello Austronesia from a proud Polynesian!
Malo e lelei from 🇵🇭
Austronesian influence played a key role in the development of Sri Lankan culture too. we owe a lot of our culture and food habits to them. People here have around 10% Austronesian related genetic input on average.
source?
@@bopndop2347 Dude we are located north west of Indonesia😅. Do you even know where the Country I'm speaking of is?
@@GalaxySeeker-z8h do you want to give a specific source or example? The scope of this video is Neolithic pre history whereas you are talking about what I assume to be spice trade related
@@bopndop2347 there are Malays kingdom in 13th century.Its called Tambraligga (nowdays Nakhon Sri Thammarat in Thailand)
they had had small Malay Sri Lanka community thats speak Malay with Sri Lanka grammar
If this is true our ancestors are amazing.
What a wonderful and insightful look at an under-appreciated cultural hub. Thanks KingsandGenerals!
That is why in Indonesia there is an old song NENEK MOYANGKU SEORANG PELAUT "our Ancestor was a sailor" maybe story Telling about their voyage to the land of Indonesia 😊
After watched this video, mungkin itu juga ada hubungannya ya budaya anak laki-laki merantau... when young man leave their hometown to seek their own place in the world...
Does pelaut mean journey or voyage
@@leont5096 Pelaut mean sailor...
@@da_pawzOh ok kind of similar to the word “FOLAU” which means ocean voyage in my country of TONGA 🇹🇴
@@leont5096 Pelaut come from Laut, laut is sea or ocean... Bahasa Indonesia uses ton of affixes lol
If this is the first time you want to learn about the history of Taiwan, that's very enugh.
As a Taiwanese, when my dad went to see his DNA report, he said he has Italian, majority Taiwanese aboriginal, Vietnamese, and African ancestry, no Chinese ancestry at all, that I'm so surprised.
My face is more similar to the faces of Austronesian people than the faces of Chinese people.
It can be confirmed that Taiwan has more connections with Southeast Asia than China.
We are also currently promoting the resurgence of mother tongue. It is really not easy. Thank you for making this video.
DNA reports are not 100%. That said, 98% of Taiwanese are Han, not Formosan.
@@taoliu3949 Not 100%, but it also proves that Taiwanese ancestry is very diverse.
I don't know what you want to express, I'm just sharing my life experience
Relax, okay?
@@yawarahayashi2427 "Taiwan has more connections with Southeast Asia than China". I was refuting that statement.
@@taoliu3949 Yeah, I mean there's a connection. But I feel like you're denying my family's DNA
In that paragraph, I was referring to the island of Taiwan, not the people.
@@yawarahayashi2427 Islands don't have DNA.
I'm not ignoring your background, I'm just pointing out the actual human geography and demographics.
Devin, this exposé was a very nice change of pace. It wasn't your traditional army-vs.-army Kings and Generals video. I appreciate your team's time and efforts. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🙋🏻♂️🇺🇸🤝🇬🇧
Taiwanese American here. My cousin's wife is from one of the tribes. The taboo about women and weapons is still a thing. I offered to take them shooting when they visit and was told she can't touch the guns.
Hong Kong Canadian here. Cantonese American there.
As a Bikolano of the 5th Region of the Philippines, I bid good tidings to my Austronesian Brothers and Sisters! I look forward to visiting Taiwan one of these days
EDIT: The 15 dislikes are from CCP bots
I've got zero genetic or cultural connection to these people, but they fascinate me. Between this vid and the one on the Yue, this channel opened my eyes to a whole new world.
It's almost like the team itself went there to make this video.
I think it would be wonderful if you could create more videos about Indigenous people, such as the Assyrians (from Ashurbanipal to the Sayfo), the Hawaiians, the Urartians, the Samaritans, the Sri Lankan Tamils, and others!
The Sri Lankan Tamils aren’t native to Sri Lanka btw. They’re relatively recent migrants to the island.
@@Mentorship4A but Tamil presence in Sri Lanka dates around the 2nd Century BC! And it's kind of an interesting History!
ASSYRIA ❤❤❤ the best civilization in civ 5
Btw they still exist they are 5 millions most of them reside in western countries due to mass immigration after the sayfo (genocide of 1915), the simele massacre 1933, conflict between the kurdish pkk and the turkish governemt in the 70' and 80', terrorist organisations like DAECH, and much more...
Please kings and generals make a video about the assyrian people from the fall of nineveh in 612 B.C to now
I wanna know about pre Columbus americas
I might be biased as a SEA person, but this region is my favorite with regard to history and culture. Imagine what mysteries lie in those jungles yet to be uncovered. And in the sea where the land was flooded.
Fun fact: The Japanese recruited some of the indigenous tribesmen for their skill in jungle warfare during WW2, knowing as the "Takasago Volunteers". Using them as some sort of special forces, they can also communicate with the local indigenous people of south east Asia.
@@uryen921 They are some mistakes here in the post.
You are correct about the Japanese recruitments (they also recruited across south east asia, similarly so did the allies).
Most of them could not communicate with indigenous people of south east asia tho.
Speaking as an indigenous south east asian from Central SEA (Combination of culture of Ancestral Taiwanese, Aboriginal SEA and Ancestral Sundalnd).
K&G left out how SEA is made out of the later two groups as well.
As for languages most languages are not mutually intelligible aside from the Malayic / Malay Languages eg:
Malaysian, Indonesian, Bruneian, Malay Papau, Siam Malay, Singaporean, Sulu Malay and so fourth.
They were required for their ability to fight in Tropical and Sub tropical climate not due to their language skills and even if they were recruited for the language skill it would have been useless.
They wouldn’t have been able to communicate with the Native Murut, Papau, Malay, Filipino, Thai, Javanese, Balinese, Cambodian, Fijian, Vietnamese etc
Actually most of the Takasago volunteers as well as han Taiwanese recruited were used as labors rather than soldiers. Only a small number actually serve in combat unit.
not fun fact but disturbing fact! the atrocities among Japanese at that time so unacceptable and cruel
@@robihamdani5385 another not so fun fact is that the Japanese government still denies 99% of their war crimes and has monuments honoring the war criminals
Taiwan was ruled by KMT from China from 1945 to 2000.
KMT and the Chinese refugee of 1949 were only around 12% of Taiwan's population, but ruled over Taiwan for around 50 years.
After Taiwan turned democracy, Taiwan is now ruled by DPP founded in Taiwan and is pro Taiwan independence.
The former Taiwan president Tsai is a mix of early Hakka Chinese immigrant and Paiwan aboriginal.
It was KMT that claimed to be China, but not Taiwan or Taiwanese. A lot of people know Taiwan through old KMT's propaganda.
Hello to my distant Austronesian cousins from Singapore!
Chinese or Malays one? If you're peranakan, you are still related anyway. lol
Malay
I'm maori from New Zealand, went to been to Singapore and all over SE Asia, it always amazes me how alike we look!
hai from bali indonesia
Hai from Melaka
Proud Austronesian from Malaysia!
Salam serumpun dari Indonesia. 👍🏻👍🏻
As a Taiwanese-Canadian, thank you for covering this!
I thought it was really cool that the Taiwanese government sponsored this video, that is truly a novel idea that a government agency would pay an outlet like Kings and Generals to tell the world about its indigenous peoples' history, I think many other countries could learn from that.
@Horus-j3f台灣學校有很多霸凌和混混甚至是幫派，所以我不否認原住民會成為霸凌的對象，以我個人經驗來說，尤其是在分數低的地方越可能有這種情況，我目前有遇過三個原住民，並且他們都有被排擠或欺負的經驗，不過我也被其中一位原住民欺負過就是了
@Horus-j3f Sure... little pink fake news all over the world
@Horus-j3fYeah, One of the dudes in my friend group literally calls any person in a five mile radius a N word. If that's not an example of Taiwanese racism idk what is.
問題是,,最早在台灣的原住民是從哪裡來的,,,,,你們應該說不清處吧,,,,
Thanks guys another video about a topic I didn't know I would be so invested in
Mahalo means ‘thank you’ in Hawai’ian. You’re thinking of Aloha
Interesting “Maayo” is “hello” in Cebuano
@@Agrabah-yd8yg "maayo" is good in hiligaynon
Thank you - I've recently understood that my maternal grandma is Amis, and I understand my mom's trauma, and why she was sensitive around the hokkien term, "huanna," and her feeling like a second class citizen wasn't solely because her dad was from the mainland, but really because her mom was indigenous. I was born and raised in the US, but retained my hokkien language and thought I did good to preserve it - but it was just another layer of colonization, and need to see how I can learn Amis.
I'm a big fan of your channel who happens to be from Taiwan. This, my friend, is probably the best video about the history of Formosa (aka Taiwan), in terms of both research and production quality. Keep up the great work!
So much alike to the Naga people of India, Myanmar. Head hunting, living in communal houses separated by gender, and even the Bamboo dances like Tinikling.
I do think they’re related, its just there’s a missing link in between.
"tinikling" philippines national dance
@@rapmamori4136true, im batak from sumatra and there are so many similarities we have with some tribes from northeast india and myanmar, like the mizo people. kra-dai, austroasiatic and surrounding people are related in one way or another
just wanted to say how much I like your content and presentation style; and perhaps on a topic that doesn't get mentioned as often, i especially like the way you balance your audio recording. the music is not over powering, and the dialogue is equalized perfectly for my old ears, and my less than stellar pc speakers. its never muddy sounding, you don't shout at me, and the words are very clear and can be easily understood even at lower volumes. i have bailed on so many channels that perhaps otherwise have good content, but their audio is insufferable to listen to. keep up the good work!
This is super fascinating and high quality
Thank you. Very informative. I knew bits and pieces of the story. I very much appreciate you filling in the tabs.
Great information and video. Everyone in the world should see this! As usual, there is a lot more to the story than the last 100 years!!
"Nenek moyang-ku adalah seorang pelaut". I thought that phrase only describing the mighty Majapahit navy. Now, I realized this phrase is also a homage to the Austronesians seafaring prowess.
To be honest i've never actually remember majapahit when someone mentioned those words,
but rather pre hindu-buddhist indonesian society who practices animism and dynamism according to our school history books.
Majapahit noting to do with austronesia. Javanese is austroasiatic, not austronesia.
@@luman8850 The Javanese are Austronesian from the Malayo-Polynesian branch
Ironically some Hindus, Buddhists and "aliran kepercayaan" especially in Java and Bali believes that Indonesians were descended from Saka Aryans, which were nomadic horsemen barbarians. That shows how a foreign culture that dominated you for around 1500 years can brainwash you.
@@luman8850javanese..sundanese..balinese are mix austroasiatic and austronesian...but have less austronesian compare to peoples from sumatera and malaya..
More close related to thai and cambodian peoples...
Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍
Are you going to do a full Austronesian Expansion series?
You have become now MY FAVOURITE TH-cam channel !!!
Fascinating video. Thanks for posting. I had no idea about the early colonization's originating from Taiwan.
I'm surprised the boats going to Tahiti and Hawaii didn't outright sink from the massive weight of the stones on those guys.
Speaking of stones, some Polynesian tribes used massive stones as currency. Imagine shipping those on canoes. (Good thing they still good money even underwater)
This is a very, very, VERY well-researched episode 👏
As a Taiwanese-American of partial Plains Aboriginal ancestry, and an astute student of the subject matter, my hat's off to you! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🙋♂️
Just want to join in the praise for this video. Finally a completely correct non-sinocentric account of Taiwan's history on its own terms. May it be spread far and wide. Bravo, King and Generals, bravo!
問題是,,最早在台灣的原住民是從哪裡來的,,,,,你們應該說不清處吧,,,,
@@夏沐飛魚They are suspected to come from Mainland China. Before the domination of the ethnic Han Chinese and the formation of the first Chinese Empire, there were a LOT of various tribes. Austronesians are suspected to be one of them on the southern side of China. Who subsequently migrated to Taiwan thousands of years ago.
@@夏沐飛魚 from the mainland but different to sino-tibetan peoples, China didnt even existed back then when the migration began
A much under-appreciated topic. Technologically one of the most significant migrations in human history. You should delve more into the boats that made this possible.
Very good Anthropologically and ethnoliguistically accurate. Well done Kings and Generals. Kudos. Malo lava.
Thanks!
This was genuinely fascinating
Omg are ur minds connected? literally earlier this day i was thinking of this subject and then u guys released a vid on it!
This makes Moana's story of their ancestors travelling on those big boats across the Pacific much more compelling.
The People Of The Pacific (and Indian) Ocean are really just very very very very distant cousins.
Excellent initiative in doing this video! I always wondered about this community and we love to hear it! I hope we can revive these cultures in a positive way as much as possible in the future. I hear they still have a long way to go though with many tribes still having huge problems with alcoholism and lack of education.
From Madagascar to Rapa Nui, we are Lima Gang!
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"Nenek moyangku seorang pelaut"
So after all, this childhood song is based on a true history
Sadly Taiwan isnt even Austronesian anymore. Its Chinese considering the Chinese population heavily outnumber the austronesians. The austronesian languages are almost non existant in that island, but thats what unfortunately happens when the newcomers outnumber the natives...
ccp at its finest..no matter they deny it..they were still chinese
Just like good ol' America
I’m from Micronesia ! Love to all my austronesian brothers and sisters.
I was born in Taiwan but raised in New Zealand. My mother always said the indigenous Māori elderly women looks just like the one she met in Taiwan. So similar that she once start speaking Chinese to one on the road.
It was kind of funny because obviously the elderly Māori woman couldn’t understand what she was saying
Thank you for making a film about Taiwanese history. But I want to add one thing: In 1624 AD, the Dutch occupied southern Taiwan. In 1626, the Spanish Empire occupied northern Taiwan, which lasted until 1642, when the Dutch sent a large army north to expel the Spanish. Spain's 16-year rule over northern Taiwan ends. This period of history is very important to the history of Taiwan during the Age of Discovery in the 17th century.
Not correct too., VOC they are banned in middle of Taiwan., name of datu kingdom.
even in modern taiwan i saw lots of austronesian looking people when i visited last year. i was surprised to see some tall and brown skinned asians there
Brown skin isn’t a trait of Astronesian people - this is a bit of a misconception.
Astronesian skin complexity ranges from whiter than snow to black as ashes.
This is due to phenotype development being varied - in general they are able to tan more but also lose those tans quickly when in door.
For example- I come from a unique ethnic group that is aboriginal to an island in south east Asia whose phenotype is whiter than white people despite living in the equator - we can tan fast tho while on the same island or neighbouring we have people who are extremely dark skin or varying shades of brown.
It should also be noted height heavily varies by ethnic group as well.
I taught in the public school system there for two years, in an area with lots of Atayal people. Many of my students were clearly not 100% Han Chinese, yet only about 1% of my students identified as having Indigenous blood. The Sinicization is real, and ongoing (subconsciously, if no longer officially).
Also... there are over 800,000 Filipinos and Indonesians working in Taiwan these days, so I'm sure at least some of the people you saw were Filipino or Indonesian.
@@DavidGravesExists i think taiwanese aborigines are taller than filipinos and indonesians. the dutch described them as towering over europeans and chinese. but i think i can tell the difference if not by looks but by demeanor and language
There are some Taiwan tribes in the west coast that is significantly whiter than people with chinese heritage. And actually most Taiwanese are assimilated Austronesian, it was the KMT thought it was a good idea to include all Austronesian who spoke Taiwanese as "chinese". When Japan took over Taiwan, there were merely less than 100k resident with chinese heritage. and Some how when KMT took the island over, there were 6 million "chinese". we are not rabbits, okay.... regarding us as the integral part of chinese speaking world is just a propaganda from china and misled TLDR for Western audience.
Thanks for this information, 99% new to me.
I wish all the best for the remaining indigineous peoples in Taiwan!
I had no idea about this, thanks a lot
Im mixed race Māori and European, Im a native speaker of New Zealand Māori and grew up speaking Gaelic and later English (around age six or seven) having been to Taiwan for a Māori/Formosan cultural exchange, i can tell you that the link between us Polynesian people and the Indigenous people of Taiwan. I can't fully explain the feeling, but from the time i stepped off the plane it was like a part of me recognised that i had arrived at an area sacred to my ancestors. It was the same type of feeling I'd get when visiting "waahi tapu" around New Zealand which is Māori for sacred site, or site of cultural significance.
My own belief is that a large group of people left Taiwan and moved down to the Philippines, within ten generations groups moved out toward South East Asia. A few generations later a group left that area and moved out to Tonga and Samoa. While there, the Austronesian people intermarried with some Melanesians. Our DNA says that our mitochondrial DNA (Inherited through the female line) is Austronesian and the Y strand is Melanesian. This leads many to theorise that there was conflict upon meeting and the majority of Austronesian males were slaughtered leaving the females behind to intermarry with the Melanesian people. While they were living on Samoa and Tonga they developed their own unique culture. A group later left and settled in the Marquesas/French Polynesia. This is where Eastern Polynesian culture developed. Carrying on in the spirit of discovering new lands, one group left and sailed northwest to Hawaii. Another group sailed southwest and settled in the Cook Islands (Rarotonga, Aitutaki etc) Maori culture and language developed there and after a few generations, seven waka migrated south west to New Zealand. Later still, a group of Māori left New Zealand and settled the Chatham islands becoming what we now know as Moriori.
As an Austronesian of mixed Indonesian and Filipino heritage, I'm honored to have visited this ancestral island. May its indigenous culture endure in the years to come.
great and amazing video ❤
Terrific video!
I am Filipino living in the mountains and my great grandfather was a chieftain. To be chieftain you must kill 7 people. No tattoos in our part, mostly practiced by island people. Rainbows are bridges used by fairies and also an locator of hidden gold.
Filipino leprechaun?
I am Indonesian from Java island. Pelangi (rainbow) is a bridge used by bidadari (female angel) to descend from langit (sky) to tanah (earth). On earth, bidadari will take a bath. 😂
What a beautiful piece of work-historically, linguistically, geographically, and artistically!
As a Taiwanese SCP writer, I think the indigenous culture in Taiwan is a precious treasure to preserve. I also like the movie Seediq Bale and the series Seqalu which depict the era well
This is genuinely interesting: I had no idea Taiwan was Austronesian. I wonder if they have conversations about the Hans as most of the world does around Western colonisation
Probably as much as westerners talk about their colonizers.....
chinese and southeast asians have been trading for millenias. they trade fairly, unlike europeans...
@rizkyadiyanto7922 you mean when europeans brought China into the first the 20th century with industrialization then the 21st century with trade deals?
*native taiwan. Taiwanese nowadays are basically han Chinese
@@rizkyadiyanto7922but anti Chinese sentiments are strong in Southeast Asia.
LIMA GANG!!
awesome video
Awesome and very informative video. One thing to note, mahalo means “thank you” and aloha means “hello”in Hawaiian.
FASCINATING LOVED IT KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK
I like the sponsor of the video is Taiwan entity. That shows that the official government don’t shy away from the past and are not pushing indigenous people anymore.
This is a certified Austronesian moment
我上大學生命科學先修課程，老師有曾經講過：根據人類史料，智人遷徙亞洲分兩次，早亞洲人(5萬年前)與晚亞洲人(1萬年前)。早亞洲人走海路：經過印度、東南亞，最後到日本及中國北方；晚亞洲人走陸路：從印度北方進到中國，我們現在熟悉的漢人就是晚亞洲人演化而來。我推測南島語族(Austronesian)可能是早亞洲人的一種分支。 And thanks for making this video, I gained more knowledge about these indigenous people that hadn't noticed in my textbook when I was in senior high.👍
I think this just introduced a whole new perspective on Taiwan and present day geopolitics. Thank you king's and Generals
I’ve waited for this for so long
greetings from Indonesia ❤❤❤
When I took a DNA test, years ago, I found out I had 3% aboriginal Taiwanese, and 3% Malay-Polynesian. I tried researching my ancestries with Google but nothing through it was as descriptive as this video which I am grateful for being able to answer questions I had about my ancestries' cultures and histories.
Are you a Taiwanese?
@@aryatamanurhasyim9834 yes. I already stated that I have Taiwanese ancestry.
What DNA test kit did you use?
@@johnlacey3857 "23 and Me"
90% Chinese？
Aloha from the island of Kaua'i. Fascinating video. One correction: Mahalo in Hawaiian means thank you not hello.
This is so interesting because the Chin people the hillland of Myanmar also has a very similar culture to the Indigenous people of the Taiwan. The way we dress, the head hunting, and even the facial tattoo are very similar. But how can that be, we are so inland and history taught us that we are more closely related or descendant of the Tibetan or Mongolian. But still very interesting topic and video. Amazing job as always!