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26 year retired trucker. I drove for one company that installed them while I was there. Quit immediately. The curtain separates public( the cab with all the windows; no expectation of privacy in public. No matter what anyone says. That's why the paparazzi can exist) Behind the curtain is PRIVATE That's the only place you have to eat, sleep and do whatever else away from prying eyes. If you want privacy, Make it. That's why curtains exist
same happened to me when i worked at swift back in like 2018 . they couldnt fix it , swift allowed us to tape the front camera after backlash from drivers. i left shortly after as i was only using them temporarily
Had a tanker company that put them in over a weekend drivers came in on Monday found a list of do's and don'ts. They all threw there keys in the flower bed in front of office. When bosses showed up and seen all trucks still parked they called the drivers to see why. 15 minutes later all camers were removed
That's always great when everyone gets involved so many people complain and never take action hats off to that Tanker companies employees for sticking together
Micro management at its finest, this again is a extremely great reason the inward facing camera is a horrible idea. It’s not the company itself at fault, it’s the clowns running it.
I remember Knight dealing with a massive lawsuit after one of their dispatchers got caught watching female drivers via the inward facing drive cams. They all say it's impossible yet it's obviously not impossible
I would leave the company immediately !!! I had these cameras installed back when I was a company driver for 16 years and five of those years they had cameras. They say there for a learning tool, but it’s all lies. They will write you up whenever they can. It’s only a matter of time before you feel like when am I going to get fired? Don’t put yourself through this. Outward facing cameras I completely agree with. And I know for a fact they can watch it anytime they want.
Isnt that nice you are a 1,000 from your fatigued and you got somebody from your office decides to turn it on like hes sitting in the truck looking at you the right time
She needs to get away from crst they are one of the laughing stock of the cdl world and I hear to other laughing stocks of trucking world bought another laughing stock swift/knight bought useless xpress to form a mega wrecking crew of terrible drivers on the roads of America!!!!
Listen it is invasion of your privacy period this lady needs to do what she said and litigate sooner rather than later . All these inward facing cameras are definitely going to stop at some point truckers are not going to take it .If your on a day haul your ok maybe but my privacy trumps the bs .Do your homework it's definitely not helping the driver in anyway.
That lady should find another company to work for. Truck companies doing this will lose employees. Seriously lawyer up. Watching her while truck is stopped and viewing her changing clothing should be a massive lawsuit.
@@theladygunsmith I drive and have had a camera facing in/out for a while. Even if I’m taking a break at a rest area you just hang a hat over the camera, not a big deal. When Captain DOT pulls you over for not wearing a seatbelt or talking on your phone you just say hold on while I download some evidence that says otherwise.
The Actions and Activities of today's Xbox Generation Wheel Holders are behind why these cameras are being used. The Increased Crash Rates since 2000 prove it.
I started working for a company driving a day cab. They never said anything about driver facing camera’s in orientation.Turns out all the newer trucks had them. I tried covering up the camera but it would say obstruction detected nonstop. Then I got a call from safety asking if I was having an issue with my camera working. Few days later I got a call asking why I had my phone in my hand. Turns out you can’t even plug your phone in without them calling you. Needless to say I don’t work there anymore. I will never work for a company with driver facing cameras again!
I think these companies use driver facing cameras to either get a break on insurance or the insurance companies mandate them, these insurance companies have gotten out of control, a lot of insurance companies spend their profits on lobbying lawmakers
When they take their "tools" and turn them into weapons, it's time to leave. If you are watching your back constantly for tiny infractions, the anxiety it causes you just isn't worth it.
Yeah not to get into a political debate, and granted I've tried to remain pro business, but I feel many business are starting to overstep their bounds and forget who's really more lucky to be able to do what they do....I mean if you put it between Business or Consumer. I mean if our whole system collapses one day, I think they have the farthest to fall, do they not? Your comment made me think of the term "Pyrrhic Victory". Some of the things I see enacted on the working class make me wonder - Yeah but at what cost? I guess time will tell
I own and work in a small fleet. My trucks have GoMotive dual facing cameras, because when I purchased them, outward facing only cameras were out of stock. Yes, you can see inward any time you want if you are a fleet manager. I personally put a strip of tape over all inward facing lenses, and told drivers not to remove the tape. Insurance does not need inward facing views. In the future I will replace these with outward facing only cameras.
When I worked at hogan transports, I was there for 8 months, and got a call EVERY SINGLE DAY, for following distance or distracted driving. Not once did I get a phone call to congratulate me on anything. Those cameras are a complete violation of privacy and don’t have the technology needed to accurately record the problems.
I haven't heard good things about that company. I chose not to go with them not only bc of the inward cameras but also, they don't allow cats on trucks but they allow dogs! 🙄
I worked for them 5 months and got calls about following distance and I for speed. I hate the cameras, but the company I am with now has an outward facing camera only. They don't badger you about tedious stuff, which I'm glad of that. I'm lease purchasing so when it's paid off, all of it will come out of the truck, which will be MINE.
I'm pulled in for 34 hour break and was sitting eating my dinner and noticed the eye moving towards my face and went back to center mind you I was sitting here for hours and they were spying I'm not sure that's what it's doing but if they weren't looking in on me the eye would never correct. It is invasion of my privacy and I am looking to see what I can do legally. And with cameras facing me I'm always very concerned if they have cameras else where but I'm always! Looking over my shoulder and shutting my curtains to the sleeper . This not right and we need answers.
This is precisely why swift got sued and had to remove the inward facing cameras. My advice. #1. If you work for CRST, leave. Quit asap. #2. DO NOT WORK FOR ANY company that has inward facing cameras.. That is invasion of privacy and by you continuing to accept that it's ok makes you just as guilty as the company. I have no clue as to why anyone would put up with crst but good luck
@@EchoAccord in the trucking industry, there are always choices. If crst will hire you then there's no reason another company shouldn't. You can make ends meet working anywhere. Its the company that has to fit your needs. They need us way more then we need them.
There needs to be a law passed that allows drivers to physically block inward cameras while on sleeper birth. I know some want it on, in case of a break in while they're gone, but again you should have the choice to block it.
Along with a few hundred thousand other drivers. This is absolutely disgusting. What is equally disgusting is how so many drivers agreed to this. The resignation attitude is destroying our world. Using terms like “company forcing drivers to sign for rear facing cameras”. Show me one driver that was forced to sign? Did they have a gun to their head saying they will be killed if they don’t sign? No. They willingly signed because humans are so brainwashed that everywhere they are giving their rights and freedom away because they allow fear to control them. Never be afraid to say no and put your job on the line. Especially when a company is violating rights and privacy. Know your worth and be willing to walk away with confidence even if you have no idea in the moment what your next move will be.
My bosses just put cameras in our trucks. I wasn’t sure about it but got normalized to it . But I’ve noticed they watch the camera through out the day for something and listen in on my conversations . So now I tape the speaker and the inside camera.
My company considered this idea for a very brief time. When the feedback showed that it would lead to a mass exodus, they decided it was no longer necessary. They were also going to reduce our speed limits on the trucks and that idea died the same way.
My company has cameras like this as well. We just cover it up once we go off duty. Once I go into the sleeper I cover it up with a face mask. But those alerts she gets with that camera type is ridiculous. My company just sees if we're being dangerous or in an accident. I'd be out of there with that camera. That's way too much pressure. You have no time to be a human. Yikes.
Micromanagement is what the cameras are for. I left a company and bought my own truck. I have been driving for 26 years. If a company is not sure a driver is not being safe. A camera is not going to make the driver safe. The camera is a distinction.
That is so nerve racking!!! I’ve taped up our cameras but still too feel like they are listening and watching too!!! It’s enough!! I’m sorry this is happening to you! I’ll be praying for a better day! Much love!
Yeah, taping doesn't stop the audio... I once told a car, "Do it, I'll squash u like a bug" Supposedly, the audio doesn't work, but safety was calling me about my driving... lol
Some camera u put tape over it the thing beep so I took a piece of paper along the side of the camera, but it beeps a few mins but it stops after a few mins
Mega Carriers uses inward facing cameras for the security and safety of truck drivers according to corporate safety personnel but truck drivers who are willing to trade their freedom for a little security deserves neither and will loose both
I am at a outfit now same amount of time I cut a piece of black electric tape and covered inward facing lense and told them I did it, they looked at me smiled and to this day nuthin has been done, few others do the same where I'm at and nuthin has been done to them also lol
@@waynesworld2086 Well, more lucky people then?...I work for Penske Logistics and they have Smartdrive staff monitoring the inwards and they're observing all the time, so putting tape over it would not be a smart move. I don't drive like a maniac, drive half sleep or play around on my phone while driving, so I have nothing to hide 🤷♂
I totally understand but I come from a military family plus lots of law enforcement in my family so I know how far to go without crossing the line and or offending folks lol, I definitely have zero to hide for sure it's I refuse to put up with any dumb shit, my girl works at a local outfit which neither one employee there knows I'm friends with law enforcement or a truck driver and I witness alot of people spy on them cameras lol its just total foolishness but on the other hand it's how they get folks fired over the dumbest stuff
One of the reasons I left that company they always see that you’re following to close but never sees when you got cut off but other drivers 😒 I hated those damn calls
At my company, they say that the cameras are on as long as the trucks are on. They also said that they do have the ability to access the camera at any time. I thought there were lawsuits about these practices.
All of this is setting the stage for the autonomous vehicles they are slowly weeding this in by using such technology as cameras that can tell if you're being distracted. If companies don't trust who they're hiring then they should just drive their own equipment.
The amount of lithium and copper needed to replace 1 million trucks would be astronomical. They also will have serious weight problems. It will be a while before they can get close to manufacturing that many trucks and the price tag may outweigh the profits. I don't think it will happen for another 15 years or so, but I could be wrong.
Seeing this makes me value WFX. I have been with them for 2 years. Since day 1 after orientation, they said we can block the cab facing camera, shi they even encouraged it. Then rarely do I hear from safety, unless I got over HOS time by accident or slam on the brakes. And all they're doing is seeing if I'm ok. I get annoyed with them sometimes but seeing stuff like this makes me feel like a spoiled brat complaining about nonsense
I dealt with that crap at mega a company. They constantly blame you for things, not under your control where it takes the fun out of the job. Way too stressful!!! They use that information to control your evaluations and bonuses. Find another company to work for....period.
Good luck young lady. Thank you for what you do for the rest of us across America. You are appreciated. I'm no longer a truck driver but I still respect all of you out there. Be safe, keep the shiny side up and the rubber on the ground 10-4
That's exactly what my company told us when they were initially installed late last year....now, it's considered immediate termination if anything is blocking the camera while the truck is moving.
I worked for US Xpress for 8 months. They had all those driver distractions installed in truck . The bells and lights do distract the diver . I got calls for being cut off . I quit . I went home , knocked the cobwebs off my old truck and went back to work .
I just got a review today for my following distance, but my manager is going to fight it because it literally shows me increasing my following distance when the vehicle in front of me cuts me off, smart drives aren't really accurate they can pick up wind and it'll go off on you. I work locally so i don't think fighting the inward cameras being in a daycab will ever happen, but i definitely think its ana invasion of privacy for long haul drivers.
When you need the money and afraid to leave the job you end up compromising, but what you really need to do is to gather evidence, leave the company and file a lawsuit. Inside facing camera is totally a violation of privacy. Although they are company trucks, you didn’t sign your privacy away when signing their contracts and you should be able to fight it
Just quit the company I worked for them for 8 years because of the cameras, yes I was rewarded for avoiding an accident but didn't feel comfortable at all....
I've had my camera come on multiple times while I'm undressing and hopefully her message gets traction as complaining to safety doesn't do anything to protect our privacy. Also the safety sensors have nearly caused multiple more dangerous situations than other drivers to the point that I've decided I can't do this long-term and be safe. Unfortunately I have to leave trucking much sooner than I'd hoped.
I dont understand why u dont draw ths curtains? I get it, id never ever drive for a company that does this, but theres things u can do from inside to block this
Worked for foodliner for 6 months at the chicago terminal. Would have stayed on but they informed us that they would be installing inward facing cameras that recorded audio as well. I was gone that weekend along with about 10 other drivers a few of whom had been there for over a decade. Dont even get me started on the self-driving trucks. We deserve better than this.
My daughter was tragically killed while stopped at a red light by a truck driver who claimed he was feeling ill and attempting to vomit out the window. Initially, we had no way of knowing the true circumstances behind the accident. It wasn't until we obtained footage from the driver's side camera that the reality became clear-he was fatigued and had fallen asleep at the wheel. The driver was so convincing in his initial explanation that even the state trooper on the scene believed him. However, as someone with a Commercial Driver's License (CDL), I knew that the trucking company had a driver-facing camera installed and insisted that the officer subpoena the footage. Without this critical evidence, the truth would have remained hidden forever. Having worked for NFI for nearly ten years, I've always driven trucks equipped with front-end driver-facing cameras. Not once did I feel that my privacy was compromised. Instead, these cameras provided an invaluable layer of security and accountability. In light of my experience, I firmly believe that front-end driver-facing cameras should be mandatory in all trucks. These cameras are not just tools for monitoring; they are essential for uncovering the truth and ensuring road safety. Without them, we lose a vital piece of the puzzle in understanding accidents and preventing future tragedies. The implementation of these cameras could save lives by providing irrefutable evidence in the event of an accident. They serve as a deterrent to negligent behavior and offer a sense of accountability that is desperately needed in the trucking industry. For the sake of safety and transparency, we must advocate for the mandatory installation of front-end driver-facing cameras in all trucks. Let's ensure that no more lives are lost due to preventable circumstances.
The reason why these cameras are becoming a thing is because of these insurance companies and lawyers need to have policies in place to keep them from doing the trash thing they do
😂if your a owner operation i can understand the frustration about this. if your a employee then nope your shit out of luck. put the curtain up and change or do your business back there. we have this type of cameras in every vehicle in our fleet. guess what everyone that’s up to no good are the ones complaining about them. how i know they don’t literally watch me all day because i’ll be talking shit or giving middle finger or at times smoke in the truck but they don’t say anything. the cameras is the eyes of AI that recognizes safety violations and inform supervisors of such violations. it’s not trying to see if you digging your nose or scratching your nuts.
@@penarri it’s to easy do the right thing or quit find another job that allows you to slack around and do the wrong thing. i’ll tell you what i do my job correctly, complete my tasks on a timely manner, not a single person bothers to ask what i’m doing. i take 1 hr lunch and 10 min breaks almost every hr. so i can tell you no one is micromanaging me.
Companies really aren't hurting for drivers anymore with the market the way it currently is. So I can definitely see companies picking on individuals they may not like.
When I was with Swift, I noticed the camera would start recording randomly while on my reset. I would yell out, Hey!! Stop spying on me!! And it would go off. I dislike those inward cameras with a passion. All the drivers I knew would tape up the inward camera, Swift never forced us to take it off.
These cameras and monitoring systems have been in trucks in Australia for a long time. With the newer systems there are no lights that indicate recording or not. Any idea that they recorded for eight seconds is BS they have the ability to record 24/7 for weeks and they do. They are also monitored in real time and that monitoring is outsourced to some dingy office in Mumbai. If an alert is triggered “someone” watches the video and watches you driving in real time and then has the authority to make a decision in regard to your fitness to drive. As these systems become the industry standard all of the good driver will find something else to do and the words “why can’t we find any good drivers” will be heard in management meetings everywhere. We were told it’s to improve driver safety but the truth is it’s to lower the insurance premiums. Enjoy!
You shouldn't have to cover a camera to feel safe getting changed. As a guy I'd say screw them and make sure I get changed right in front of it, give them a show haha but I definitely see a woman's concerns with peeping toms
I had that idea, but went through the photos on my tablet which has access to my bosses phone pics, had pics of a naked dude sitting on the edge of the bed. And 6 photos of me and my wife on the driver facing camera. He sent 1 but he had 5 others I never saw. It’s creepy the way he sent it. Laughing saying I see you, I see you, you and your wife
Last year I was driving for GP Transco out of Juliet IL - the safety guys used to watch me eat lunch and commented on what I was eating at the time - I left soon after - some sick-o- watch me do my thing while his thing is stroking- not for me !!!! Need to get those cameras out !!!!
My company put them in several years ago they said they didn't come on until you were in an accident but they lied the boss has every video on his phone they can turn them on anytime they want and watch and listen to everything you do I think it's an invasion of privacy!
Same here my company do the same thing and they're Liars we're supposed to come on if you hit a big bump hit your brakes hard run into something take a corner too fast that's what's supposed to trigger it but they'll pull us in it have a video of you just going down the highway with your crew set I turn it on anytime they want and watch you
Same here , in a road side assistance service truck , I quit to much BS, put my life on the line for almost 10 straight then I got to deal with that crap too .
Facts! That's the whole lie to make the drivers feel at ease but it's a joke. They can access those cameras at will no matter what time it is. Really messed up.
Don't let these companies BS you. They can log in and pull snippets of footage whenever they like. "We can't see anything unless the camera is triggered by an event". Horseshit. Why would I get phone calls about something when the camera never experienced a triggering event? Melton was installing cameras back in 2012. They lied an did this. P&S/Blair does it although I had the camera removed when I signed my lease. JLE also called several times with non triggering events. Yeah, they can see any time they want. All my trucks had front cab curtains so I just closed them to cover it even though they can still hear. Those inward facing cameras don't need to be installed by the windshield. They should be installed on the passenger side near the corner near the cabinet and passenger door meet. That will prevent tampering of the camera but with the inner curtain pulled, won't allow them to see in the sleeper.
I think some of these companies think of safety but their forgetting about the privacy of the truck drivers and if this is the case sue the hell out of them
28 years as a driver was enough. We had 12 drivers all with an excess of 10 years on the job we had the best safety, and DOT record out of our national fleet, and we drove in the Northeast. They installed cameras and pushed their rules about driving habits etc. I retired, the rest of the guys left, told them to shove the cameras where the sun doesn't shine, and now they have all brand new rookie drivers. The safety record is shattered they have huge repair bills and they can't get anything delivered on time or even delivered because they cannot back into the hard customer's locations without hitting something or damaging the equipment. These companies get what they deserve when they have chased all the professional drivers out.
The invading privacy I would put a piece of tape on the inward camera. That's a big lawsuit. Somebody sitting there in the office playing with a self watching you take. That's gross. Really gross
What I’m seeing is a driver who has to be extremely distracted by those inward facing cameras and micromanaging being done by her company! Good for her for fighting it. If it were me I’d quit! Drivers are too in demand we don’t have to put up with this crap!
F that!! We would never get any where if we always keep 300 feet distance. These 4 wheelers keep on cutting in front of us. I quit a company because of these cameras I told them. I don't get speeding tickets nor do I get in accidents. I told them if they didn't like the way I drive, then you come drive your on truck. It takes trucks a while to speed up and we wouldn't get any miles if we are always are on the brakes. I just use my Jake brake to slow down. My brakes last 100,000 miles. If she needs a job with an awesome boss. Let me know. I've been written up for speeding because the GPS is not accurate and proved that. This job is hard enough without the bull these company's are giving us. It doesn't pay me enough to work for a company like that
I'm glad my company I drive for doesn't have a driver facing camera in my truck. The company drivers do but LPs don't. The last company I drove for had driver facing cameras and it pissed me and my man off. He went and blocked the lens with the middle visor. I see the point but they can turn the cameras on at will which is missed up. Very intrusive. They just need to record when an event happens. Sometimes it's a third party that reviews the footage and then they forward it to the company. We need to fight back against this because it violates our rights as soon as we turn off the truck and go on break.
Inward facing cameras are illegal. Any lawyer will say the same thing. They CANNOT face the sleeper bunks. That is the driver's personal space, like a home, and is deemed an invasion of privacy.
Are you sure about that? I’m only asking because I remember when that trucker lawyer went to court for us, over driver facing cameras, the court said there is nothing illegal about it. 🤷♂️
In theory, they should only be aimed at the driver's seat, not the bunk. The front of the truck is company work space. The sleeper is your home. The curtains are your front door.
Drivers with their cellphone 📱 in their hands when they pass you and are about to sideswipe you because they're fixated on the screen are the ones with no cameras in their trucks
Just call and Report CDL driver with phone in hand, it's a Huge Fine 13,875.00 and they Lose job, The Employer gets 11,000 of the fine and the. Driver gets the rest of it. A driver is allowed to use Bluetooth and must use voice activated command's
The company i drive for has inward and outward facing cameras they say that the cameras only record during an event but i call bullshit. They can actually watch the drivers at all times because i told them that a car nearly crashed into me without a event ie red light camera going off the were able to go in and open up the video of my truck from the time i logged in to the unit and scroll through hours of footage as i stood there watching which they tell us the camera only records during events they are actually able to watch us at all times which is illegal im really thinking about filing a lawsuit against the company for illegal surveillance
There is a class action lawsuit, currently gathering info, against companies using in cab facing cameras, violating BIPA. Do a search for the link in Illinois. I listed the link here but I guess it violated some policy.
She might needa start applying to other companies. The company she’s with have their rules set in place to be abided by and they seem like they are not gonna change. So yea she needa fight her case and just go to another company. Simple as that
You put a camera on me. I'm pissing in my cup, scratching my nuts, picking my noise, and having great conversations with myself 😃 I wonder if the dispatchers watch when I bring the lot lizards into the sleeper berth🤔
Heck, my camera stated seatbelt violation at me one time. Had the belt under my arm. The audio isn't suppose to be on. Dispatch and safety aren't able to watch you constantly wink wink. It's interesting that one dispatcher pegged me having a violation every day, when he first started. A new dispatcher in 1 year has me with 2. One was a hard break cause some jerk made a right turn from my left, and I had to slam on brakes cameras, we have them on our mirrors also, caught that. The other following to close in a construction zone. Sounds like she has a pervert dispatcher. And my first dispatcher was an ass.
@Kevin Scott well, duh, I know I don't wear the belt properly, I'm 5'2", driving a vehicle designed for a 6' tall male. I don't care how you adjust the strap it still cuts across my neck or digs into my shoulder joint.
@S cone since when did they design vehicles according to your height🤔❓️. All the vehicles I've driven you can adjust the height of the shoulder strap. Now my big rig you can't adjust it but still I'm 5'6" and it doesn't bother me or my neck. The only thing I can say is each week you better save some money in the, I don't know how to wear a seat belt fund. Get use to paying those fines. They'll just keep getting bigger for each violation.
@@111scone I know about that problem if there isn’t a height adjustment slide on the mount. I’m short too and have found a metal clip that fastens at the waist to start the angle to the shoulder an adjustable distance from the fastener.
I have been dealing with inward cameras for over 6yrs. I close the curtains so they don't see what's going on in the bunk. My compaines cameras work no matter what, they are hard wired into the batteries
She's supposed to close her privacy curtains or cover the inward facing cameras when she changes her clothing. That's why I wouldn't like them inward facing cameras that is being too nit picky it's like they want people to act like an super human 🤖 robot that isn't human, it would make me feel like I would be fired just for breathing. They are making it feel like it's more then beyond modern day human slavery it sounds like torture and mental abuse.
Interesting.. I’m sure she signed something or in a class that told the drivers. Any interference of the camera will result in a termination! Then they tell her to cover it up. That’s a “double looser situation!” Leave before they fire you for unsafe (anything). Then your not hire able! Or sue them for violating your privacy! Tough call for sure!
Yes I was in those classes too. I don't know which one she went through but sounds like she missed a couple days. And if i'm not mistaken and I left two August twenty twenty two the last time I remember they had curtains they do come equipped the last I checked. And I said this before what does she do? When she's at a truck stop leave the windows? No shade no privacy For all to see when she's at the truck stop when she's changing her Clothes. And nobody's there to help her figure out that she has A system where she can temperature control her vehicle the way she doesn't have to have the vehicle on Running to keep the vehicle cool or hot. I honestly have nothing to hide with the video camera facing Inward Or she could just turn down the sunvisor . But what gets me is that she doesn't know that the Truck comes equipped with a curtain for privacy that i'm a little lost On that . Now her driving habits that's something she may have to work on. But I can say that this is A bit much or she's blowing it way out of proportion. But obviously it's going to be on if she's in park with the truck running and moving around about inside the cab. I think she should have looked over everything before she made that video. It is going to be One Of those moments hand to forehead Duh Moments.
I only had a driver facing camera 6 days and remember how it made a tense day trying always not to trip the camera and get called into the office for a camera trip.
When the truck is parked or you are on your break. You can cover the inward facing camera with a hat or towel or something. The inward facing camera should only be on when you are driving. Not when you are parked. Honestly all she had to do is to cover the inward forward facing with a towel or something when she is parked
We as truck drivers should not have to do any of that. We should feel comfortable driving without people spying too hard. We should feel comfortable and safe when we shutdown and get ready for bed. Get out of here with that all she needed to do is cover it with a towel. It wouldn't matter. They can still record audio with the inward facing camera as well. Matter of fact, some companies actually will write you up if you cover the lens of the cameras even while sleeping. So you know nothing about what truck driver go through.
I was on light duty for a broken bone. So my company had me answering phones in the dispatcher office. I physically saw dispatchers watching drivers on those cameras and sharing footage with other people. Don't believe anything they say about those cameras. And definitely don't trust a silly little light and what color it is blinking or showing. Its garbage.
She is correct they record conversation and all she does dressed and undressed.. I had a company lie to my face .. and I purposely did a too close and phone conversation he ask me what was i talking about it was a john wick movie.. he actually played it .. i asked I thought they don’t listen to my personal or record while i was in the sleeper.. that’s a bull s#!t lie .. oh they been looking at you.. because he actually acted a little funny wanting to see guy’s.. needless to say i am not with them . Truth is if you have a accident you are screwed .. get a better job
I drove a truck with lytx cameras like this. My company was on me for distracted driving events at first but after I just said fuck it and let the camera beep all day they left me alone. That following too closely is bullshit too, all the camera shit is bullshit. The only camera should be facing outside to protect the driver
That's exactly what happened to me when I was working for a company which name starts with H and ends with H. Thanks God I had no violations,no tickets, no accidents...but as soon as I left the company they wanted to make my life impossible and even refusing to give proves of my job there to the new company I was going to work for. They were always looking to me inside de cabin when I was driving, even when I never tailgated. And sometimes I noticed the Camara was on even when the engine was off. Having a Camara facing outside can help you a lot, I would say the Camara is a NEED, but I don't see the need to recording a driver on and off the whole journey and much less if the driver has a clean record for years and the company never sees you driving distracted.
If they want to watch me I'm gonna be as disgusting as I can be and give them a show they never will forget.if im not breaking the law what can they do?
I left trucking when electronic logs came out. As of 2024, ALL new vehicles sold in the U.S. have driver facing cameras. I don't mean just trucks, I mean ALL vehicles. The video and audio is sent to the vehicle manufacturer in real time, as it happens, over a 24/7 WiFi connection, and they sell it to anyone who wants it.
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More POWER to HER !!! Hoorah 👌
Terrorism. The whole industry ought to reject this garbage.
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26 year retired trucker.
I drove for one company that installed them while I was there. Quit immediately.
The curtain separates public( the cab with all the windows; no expectation of privacy in public. No matter what anyone says. That's why the paparazzi can exist)
Behind the curtain is PRIVATE That's the only place you have to eat, sleep and do whatever else away from prying eyes.
If you want privacy, Make it.
That's why curtains exist
same happened to me when i worked at swift back in like 2018 .
they couldnt fix it , swift allowed us to tape the front camera after backlash from drivers.
i left shortly after as i was only using them temporarily
Had a tanker company that put them in over a weekend drivers came in on Monday found a list of do's and don'ts. They all threw there keys in the flower bed in front of office. When bosses showed up and seen all trucks still parked they called the drivers to see why. 15 minutes later all camers were removed
Nice!!!
😂👍
That's always great when everyone gets involved so many people complain and never take action hats off to that Tanker companies employees for sticking together
Sounds like an internet myth.
Way to go. I would never work for a company that had inward-facing cameras. Personally, I would have thrown the keys on the roof.
Remember when part of the allure of trucking was not having a boss breathing on your neck? 😂
That’s why I got into the industry way back. Now it’s ELD and cameras staring at ya.
I’d never do that job because of these cameras…
The peeping tom camera! CRST should be ashamed ! It's LAWSUIT time!!
That's why I left they ass they good for starting your career but the pay sucks ass and I'm not teaming with no one who don't like to hustle
Crst is a terrible company !! I worked there for 4 months and got the fxxx outta there!! They are terrible!!
That's a great lawsuit!! I would fight for some compensation and then quit
She's cute too! So I wouldn't be surprised if they were watching her constantly
@Joker Smith No she's not.
I refuse to work with any company have that kind of cameras.
There comes a point when too many safety protocols become dangerous
Same as high steel workers being required to wear harnesses and rigging for "fall prevention" when it causes falls...
That and also too many "safety" features on these newer trucks
Micro management at its finest, this again is a extremely great reason the inward facing camera is a horrible idea. It’s not the company itself at fault, it’s the clowns running it.
That's incorrect. The company makes the decision to put it in the truck in the first place. So it is their fault foremost, too.
I remember Knight dealing with a massive lawsuit after one of their dispatchers got caught watching female drivers via the inward facing drive cams. They all say it's impossible yet it's obviously not impossible
Yup..
I remember that also was a few years back and they removed them . Correct me if I am wrong
Safety shares naked driver pictures all the time.
This is how HR gets their kicks.
They can see and hear everything as long as they have access to the truck. And they all do.
My maintenance guy, told me to COVER the camera... trust him.... he knows what the camera guys do
It only takes one big reason to leave a company.. This is one.
I would believe from what a attorney just told me that is like putting a camera in a bathroom, invading a person's privacy act!!
I would leave the company immediately !!! I had these cameras installed back when I was a company driver for 16 years and five of those years they had cameras. They say there for a learning tool, but it’s all lies. They will write you up whenever they can. It’s only a matter of time before you feel like when am I going to get fired? Don’t put yourself through this. Outward facing cameras I completely agree with. And I know for a fact they can watch it anytime they want.
Isnt that nice you are a 1,000 from your fatigued and you got somebody from your office decides to turn it on like hes sitting in the truck looking at you the right time
She needs to get away from crst they are one of the laughing stock of the cdl world and I hear to other laughing stocks of trucking world bought another laughing stock swift/knight bought useless xpress to form a mega wrecking crew of terrible drivers on the roads of America!!!!
Listen it is invasion of your privacy period this lady needs to do what she said and litigate sooner rather than later . All these inward facing cameras are definitely going to stop at some point truckers are not going to take it .If your on a day haul your ok maybe but my privacy trumps the bs .Do your homework it's definitely not helping the driver in anyway.
That lady should find another company to work for. Truck companies doing this will lose employees. Seriously lawyer up. Watching her while truck is stopped and viewing her changing clothing should be a massive lawsuit.
Ikr
Sue them and I pray you win big
Now she can because they fired her.
@@leepialong that's horrible what happened to her
CRST: Inward facing cameras, mandatory team driving, low starting pay. How could anyone want to drive for this company??
They are the worst mental midget drivers, block anyone from passing!😢
It’s intrusive and it’s criminal to have cameras watch you. I’d never drive like that period.
Cameras watch plenty of people working and many of them don’t even know it.
@@blauer2551 It's a little different if your work place is also your home.
@@theladygunsmith I drive and have had a camera facing in/out for a while. Even if I’m taking a break at a rest area you just hang a hat over the camera, not a big deal. When Captain DOT pulls you over for not wearing a seatbelt or talking on your phone you just say hold on while I download some evidence that says otherwise.
The Actions and Activities of today's Xbox Generation Wheel Holders are behind why these cameras are being used. The Increased Crash Rates since 2000 prove it.
@@curtekstrom9531 xbox wheel holders? or 3rd world non english speakers that had a translator feed them answers during the test?
I started working for a company driving a day cab. They never said anything about driver facing camera’s in orientation.Turns out all the newer trucks had them. I tried covering up the camera but it would say obstruction detected nonstop. Then I got a call from safety asking if I was having an issue with my camera working. Few days later I got a call asking why I had my phone in my hand. Turns out you can’t even plug your phone in without them calling you. Needless to say I don’t work there anymore. I will never work for a company with driver facing cameras again!
I think these companies use driver facing cameras to either get a break on insurance or the insurance companies mandate them, these insurance companies have gotten out of control, a lot of insurance companies spend their profits on lobbying lawmakers
When they take their "tools" and turn them into weapons, it's time to leave. If you are watching your back constantly for tiny infractions, the anxiety it causes you just isn't worth it.
All NEGATIVE BULLSHIT ALL IT IS ...NOTHING POSTIVE WHAT SO EVER...
Yeah not to get into a political debate, and granted I've tried to remain pro business, but I feel many business are starting to overstep their bounds and forget who's really more lucky to be able to do what they do....I mean if you put it between Business or Consumer. I mean if our whole system collapses one day, I think they have the farthest to fall, do they not?
Your comment made me think of the term "Pyrrhic Victory". Some of the things I see enacted on the working class make me wonder - Yeah but at what cost? I guess time will tell
I own and work in a small fleet. My trucks have GoMotive dual facing cameras, because when I purchased them, outward facing only cameras were out of stock. Yes, you can see inward any time you want if you are a fleet manager. I personally put a strip of tape over all inward facing lenses, and told drivers not to remove the tape. Insurance does not need inward facing views. In the future I will replace these with outward facing only cameras.
Even if the truck is off?
Well, it’s been a year since @CheddarCheeseBandit posted he would change those dual cameras. How about an update on that?
That’s exactly what I did , electrical tape over inward facing camera.
When I worked at hogan transports, I was there for 8 months, and got a call EVERY SINGLE DAY, for following distance or distracted driving. Not once did I get a phone call to congratulate me on anything. Those cameras are a complete violation of privacy and don’t have the technology needed to accurately record the problems.
Yep same reason I quit Hogan 4 years ago.
I haven't heard good things about that company. I chose not to go with them not only bc of the inward cameras but also, they don't allow cats on trucks but they allow dogs! 🙄
I worked for them 5 months and got calls about following distance and I for speed. I hate the cameras, but the company I am with now has an outward facing camera only. They don't badger you about tedious stuff, which I'm glad of that. I'm lease purchasing so when it's paid off, all of it will come out of the truck, which will be MINE.
I can’t believe I was considering Hogan. Thanks for the info
Thanks for the heads up.
I'm pulled in for 34 hour break and was sitting eating my dinner and noticed the eye moving towards my face and went back to center mind you I was sitting here for hours and they were spying I'm not sure that's what it's doing but if they weren't looking in on me the eye would never correct. It is invasion of my privacy and I am looking to see what I can do legally. And with cameras facing me I'm always very concerned if they have cameras else where but I'm always! Looking over my shoulder and shutting my curtains to the sleeper . This not right and we need answers.
This is precisely why swift got sued and had to remove the inward facing cameras. My advice. #1. If you work for CRST, leave. Quit asap. #2. DO NOT WORK FOR ANY company that has inward facing cameras.. That is invasion of privacy and by you continuing to accept that it's ok makes you just as guilty as the company. I have no clue as to why anyone would put up with crst but good luck
Agree 💯
Swift actually needs them 😂 Calm down. I was kidding
@@haroldferguson1483 the front ones, most definitely especially this time of year
Money and trying to make ends meet, some don't have a choice.
@@EchoAccord in the trucking industry, there are always choices. If crst will hire you then there's no reason another company shouldn't. You can make ends meet working anywhere. Its the company that has to fit your needs. They need us way more then we need them.
There needs to be a law passed that allows drivers to physically block inward cameras while on sleeper birth. I know some want it on, in case of a break in while they're gone, but again you should have the choice to block it.
Just block the damn camera anyway when you're stopped. Law or no law. They don't need to see you in your sleeper for any reason whatsoever
Simple, never drive for a company with inward facing cameras and if the company that you drive for installs them, quit.
She needs to contact OOIDA and give them this story.
Oh yah, OOIDA would love to hear this story. 👍
Along with a few hundred thousand other drivers. This is absolutely disgusting. What is equally disgusting is how so many drivers agreed to this. The resignation attitude is destroying our world.
Using terms like “company forcing drivers to sign for rear facing cameras”. Show me one driver that was forced to sign? Did they have a gun to their head saying they will be killed if they don’t sign? No. They willingly signed because humans are so brainwashed that everywhere they are giving their rights and freedom away because they allow fear to control them. Never be afraid to say no and put your job on the line. Especially when a company is violating rights and privacy. Know your worth and be willing to walk away with confidence even if you have no idea in the moment what your next move will be.
Ooida? Pfft. They wouldn't touch this. Hadnt had our best interest at heart in 15 years.
OOIDA is useless
Yea right
My bosses just put cameras in our trucks. I wasn’t sure about it but got normalized to it . But I’ve noticed they watch the camera through out the day for something and listen in on my conversations . So now I tape the speaker and the inside camera.
How do you know when they are watching??
My company considered this idea for a very brief time. When the feedback showed that it would lead to a mass exodus, they decided it was no longer necessary. They were also going to reduce our speed limits on the trucks and that idea died the same way.
My company has cameras like this as well. We just cover it up once we go off duty. Once I go into the sleeper I cover it up with a face mask. But those alerts she gets with that camera type is ridiculous. My company just sees if we're being dangerous or in an accident. I'd be out of there with that camera. That's way too much pressure. You have no time to be a human. Yikes.
Micromanagement is what the cameras are for. I left a company and bought my own truck. I have been driving for 26 years. If a company is not sure a driver is not being safe. A camera is not going to make the driver safe. The camera is a distinction.
If a company does this crap then DON'T WORK THERE.
New drivers often don't have a choice
That is so nerve racking!!! I’ve taped up our cameras but still too feel like they are listening and watching too!!! It’s enough!! I’m sorry this is happening to you! I’ll be praying for a better day! Much love!
Yeah, taping doesn't stop the audio...
I once told a car, "Do it, I'll squash u like a bug"
Supposedly, the audio doesn't work, but safety was calling me about my driving... lol
@@cynthiamangosingkilic822 right!!! Hilarious! It’s so annoying BIG Brother everywhere!!!
Some camera u put tape over it the thing beep so I took a piece of paper along the side of the camera, but it beeps a few mins but it stops after a few mins
@@MrBlacxkcobra I’m going to try that too!
@@buburodriguez1 put it along the left side to extend out where it won't see u it go pass the lens 😎 and come back and tell me how it works for ya
Mega Carriers uses inward facing cameras for the security and safety of truck drivers according to corporate safety personnel but truck drivers who are willing to trade their freedom for a little security deserves neither and will loose both
I worked for a co with inward facers - I took some thick tape and covered it up. I worked for them for two years after that and never removed it
Lucky you...and I do mean lucky. If I did that I'd be fired.
I am at a outfit now same amount of time I cut a piece of black electric tape and covered inward facing lense and told them I did it, they looked at me smiled and to this day nuthin has been done, few others do the same where I'm at and nuthin has been done to them also lol
@@waynesworld2086 Well, more lucky people then?...I work for Penske Logistics and they have Smartdrive staff monitoring the inwards and they're observing all the time, so putting tape over it would not be a smart move. I don't drive like a maniac, drive half sleep or play around on my phone while driving, so I have nothing to hide 🤷♂
I totally understand but I come from a military family plus lots of law enforcement in my family so I know how far to go without crossing the line and or offending folks lol, I definitely have zero to hide for sure it's I refuse to put up with any dumb shit, my girl works at a local outfit which neither one employee there knows I'm friends with law enforcement or a truck driver and I witness alot of people spy on them cameras lol its just total foolishness but on the other hand it's how they get folks fired over the dumbest stuff
One of the reasons I left that company they always see that you’re following to close but never sees when you got cut off but other drivers 😒 I hated those damn calls
At my company, they say that the cameras are on as long as the trucks are on. They also said that they do have the ability to access the camera at any time. I thought there were lawsuits about these practices.
U were lied to ur Co has the ability to watch ur camera
I was in cyber security before trucking. I could easily see through anyone's camera at a truck stop via Bluetooth or WiFi connection.
@jamieosborne8914 i know. It's messed up having no privacy. When you work company, you deal with they B.S. just another reason to become an owner.
Trust that nothing is private now a days. Anything a man make can be destroyed or manipulated.
Major companies is toxic. God bless you sister. Find a better situation.
All of this is setting the stage for the autonomous vehicles they are slowly weeding this in by using such technology as cameras that can tell if you're being distracted. If companies don't trust who they're hiring then they should just drive their own equipment.
The amount of lithium and copper needed to replace 1 million trucks would be astronomical. They also will have serious weight problems. It will be a while before they can get close to manufacturing that many trucks and the price tag may outweigh the profits. I don't think it will happen for another 15 years or so, but I could be wrong.
Seeing this makes me value WFX. I have been with them for 2 years. Since day 1 after orientation, they said we can block the cab facing camera, shi they even encouraged it. Then rarely do I hear from safety, unless I got over HOS time by accident or slam on the brakes. And all they're doing is seeing if I'm ok. I get annoyed with them sometimes but seeing stuff like this makes me feel like a spoiled brat complaining about nonsense
I dealt with that crap at mega a company. They constantly blame you for things, not under your control where it takes the fun out of the job. Way too stressful!!! They use that information to control your evaluations and bonuses. Find another company to work for....period.
Good luck young lady. Thank you for what you do for the rest of us across America. You are appreciated. I'm no longer a truck driver but I still respect all of you out there. Be safe, keep the shiny side up and the rubber on the ground 10-4
My company installed these a while back and told us to put black electrical tape over the inward camera. It’s been covered since day 1
That's exactly what my company told us when they were initially installed late last year....now, it's considered immediate termination if anything is blocking the camera while the truck is moving.
Close the curtains so the camera is covered when you are parked, that is what I do.
I worked for US Xpress for 8 months. They had all those driver distractions installed in truck . The bells and lights do distract the diver . I got calls for being cut off . I quit . I went home , knocked the cobwebs off my old truck and went back to work .
I just got a review today for my following distance, but my manager is going to fight it because it literally shows me increasing my following distance when the vehicle in front of me cuts me off, smart drives aren't really accurate they can pick up wind and it'll go off on you. I work locally so i don't think fighting the inward cameras being in a daycab will ever happen, but i definitely think its ana invasion of privacy for long haul drivers.
Quit! Too many trucking jobs to put up with that BS
When you need the money and afraid to leave the job you end up compromising, but what you really need to do is to gather evidence, leave the company and file a lawsuit. Inside facing camera is totally a violation of privacy. Although they are company trucks, you didn’t sign your privacy away when signing their contracts and you should be able to fight it
Just quit the company I worked for them for 8 years because of the cameras, yes I was rewarded for avoiding an accident but didn't feel comfortable at all....
I've had my camera come on multiple times while I'm undressing and hopefully her message gets traction as complaining to safety doesn't do anything to protect our privacy. Also the safety sensors have nearly caused multiple more dangerous situations than other drivers to the point that I've decided I can't do this long-term and be safe. Unfortunately I have to leave trucking much sooner than I'd hoped.
I dont understand why u dont draw ths curtains? I get it, id never ever drive for a company that does this, but theres things u can do from inside to block this
Worked for foodliner for 6 months at the chicago terminal. Would have stayed on but they informed us that they would be installing inward facing cameras that recorded audio as well. I was gone that weekend along with about 10 other drivers a few of whom had been there for over a decade. Dont even get me started on the self-driving trucks. We deserve better than this.
That’s why being a Owner Operator is necessary
Facts. Very true.
My daughter was tragically killed while stopped at a red light by a truck driver who claimed he was feeling ill and attempting to vomit out the window. Initially, we had no way of knowing the true circumstances behind the accident. It wasn't until we obtained footage from the driver's side camera that the reality became clear-he was fatigued and had fallen asleep at the wheel.
The driver was so convincing in his initial explanation that even the state trooper on the scene believed him. However, as someone with a Commercial Driver's License (CDL), I knew that the trucking company had a driver-facing camera installed and insisted that the officer subpoena the footage. Without this critical evidence, the truth would have remained hidden forever.
Having worked for NFI for nearly ten years, I've always driven trucks equipped with front-end driver-facing cameras. Not once did I feel that my privacy was compromised. Instead, these cameras provided an invaluable layer of security and accountability.
In light of my experience, I firmly believe that front-end driver-facing cameras should be mandatory in all trucks. These cameras are not just tools for monitoring; they are essential for uncovering the truth and ensuring road safety. Without them, we lose a vital piece of the puzzle in understanding accidents and preventing future tragedies.
The implementation of these cameras could save lives by providing irrefutable evidence in the event of an accident. They serve as a deterrent to negligent behavior and offer a sense of accountability that is desperately needed in the trucking industry.
For the sake of safety and transparency, we must advocate for the mandatory installation of front-end driver-facing cameras in all trucks. Let's ensure that no more lives are lost due to preventable circumstances.
As soon as she said, "Stab you in the back" that's when the bigwigs started the termination process.
They watch TH-cam too
The reason why these cameras are becoming a thing is because of these insurance companies and lawyers need to have policies in place to keep them from doing the trash thing they do
it literally does , i’ve never heard a camera “not record until something happens “
There are event related recordings, but you can usually remotely view as well.
@@Chris-ik2ov yeah i know
😂if your a owner operation i can understand the frustration about this. if your a employee then nope your shit out of luck. put the curtain up and change or do your business back there. we have this type of cameras in every vehicle in our fleet. guess what everyone that’s up to no good are the ones complaining about them. how i know they don’t literally watch me all day because i’ll be talking shit or giving middle finger or at times smoke in the truck but they don’t say anything. the cameras is the eyes of AI that recognizes safety violations and inform supervisors of such violations. it’s not trying to see if you digging your nose or scratching your nuts.
@@russ1376 if you’re okay with micromanaging so be it , some like it, some dont
@@penarri it’s to easy do the right thing or quit find another job that allows you to slack around and do the wrong thing. i’ll tell you what i do my job correctly, complete my tasks on a timely manner, not a single person bothers to ask what i’m doing. i take 1 hr lunch and 10 min breaks almost every hr. so i can tell you no one is micromanaging me.
Companies really aren't hurting for drivers anymore with the market the way it currently is. So I can definitely see companies picking on individuals they may not like.
When I was with Swift, I noticed the camera would start recording randomly while on my reset. I would yell out, Hey!! Stop spying on me!! And it would go off. I dislike those inward cameras with a passion. All the drivers I knew would tape up the inward camera, Swift never forced us to take it off.
Time to find another company to go to work for. Few companies I've heard about have had a few lawsuits because of what she went through
These cameras and monitoring systems have been in trucks in Australia for a long time. With the newer systems there are no lights that indicate recording or not. Any idea that they recorded for eight seconds is BS they have the ability to record 24/7 for weeks and they do. They are also monitored in real time and that monitoring is outsourced to some dingy office in Mumbai. If an alert is triggered “someone” watches the video and watches you driving in real time and then has the authority to make a decision in regard to your fitness to drive. As these systems become the industry standard all of the good driver will find something else to do and the words “why can’t we find any good drivers” will be heard in management meetings everywhere. We were told it’s to improve driver safety but the truth is it’s to lower the insurance premiums. Enjoy!
You shouldn't have to cover a camera to feel safe getting changed. As a guy I'd say screw them and make sure I get changed right in front of it, give them a show haha but I definitely see a woman's concerns with peeping toms
But really if someone is that paranoid..cover it..granted the company is wrong but who trusts their company
I had that idea, but went through the photos on my tablet which has access to my bosses phone pics, had pics of a naked dude sitting on the edge of the bed. And 6 photos of me and my wife on the driver facing camera. He sent 1 but he had 5 others I never saw. It’s creepy the way he sent it. Laughing saying I see you, I see you, you and your wife
And I haul livestock. He also told me I need to take the cover off.
@Chris Buchanan A.K.A Money Tell him to go pound salt and you'll see him in court..fk that!
Men should be concerned too as there are plenty of gay males who could be watching you
Last year I was driving for GP Transco out of Juliet IL - the safety guys used to watch me eat lunch and commented on what I was eating at the time - I left soon after - some sick-o- watch me do my thing while his thing is stroking- not for me !!!! Need to get those cameras out !!!!
My company put them in several years ago they said they didn't come on until you were in an accident but they lied the boss has every video on his phone they can turn them on anytime they want and watch and listen to everything you do I think it's an invasion of privacy!
Same here my company do the same thing and they're Liars we're supposed to come on if you hit a big bump hit your brakes hard run into something take a corner too fast that's what's supposed to trigger it but they'll pull us in it have a video of you just going down the highway with your crew set I turn it on anytime they want and watch you
Same here , in a road side assistance service truck , I quit to much BS, put my life on the line for almost 10 straight then I got to deal with that crap too .
Facts! That's the whole lie to make the drivers feel at ease but it's a joke. They can access those cameras at will no matter what time it is. Really messed up.
Don't let these companies BS you. They can log in and pull snippets of footage whenever they like. "We can't see anything unless the camera is triggered by an event". Horseshit. Why would I get phone calls about something when the camera never experienced a triggering event? Melton was installing cameras back in 2012. They lied an did this. P&S/Blair does it although I had the camera removed when I signed my lease. JLE also called several times with non triggering events. Yeah, they can see any time they want. All my trucks had front cab curtains so I just closed them to cover it even though they can still hear. Those inward facing cameras don't need to be installed by the windshield. They should be installed on the passenger side near the corner near the cabinet and passenger door meet. That will prevent tampering of the camera but with the inner curtain pulled, won't allow them to see in the sleeper.
I think some of these companies think of safety but their forgetting about the privacy of the truck drivers and if this is the case sue the hell out of them
28 years as a driver was enough. We had 12 drivers all with an excess of 10 years on the job we had the best safety, and DOT record out of our national fleet, and we drove in the Northeast. They installed cameras and pushed their rules about driving habits etc. I retired, the rest of the guys left, told them to shove the cameras where the sun doesn't shine, and now they have all brand new rookie drivers. The safety record is shattered they have huge repair bills and they can't get anything delivered on time or even delivered because they cannot back into the hard customer's locations without hitting something or damaging the equipment.
These companies get what they deserve when they have chased all the professional drivers out.
The invading privacy I would put a piece of tape on the inward camera. That's a big lawsuit. Somebody sitting there in the office playing with a self watching you take. That's gross. Really gross
JB Hunt is launching them in *ALL* their trucks (including sleeper's) next month. Same situation. A lot of drivers are quitting
What I’m seeing is a driver who has to be extremely distracted by those inward facing cameras and micromanaging being done by her company! Good for her for fighting it. If it were me I’d quit! Drivers are too in demand we don’t have to put up with this crap!
I have 95% of the same issues- with my company's cameras - they only see a few seconds of video, but it's always the "BAD" never the reason for it
F that!! We would never get any where if we always keep 300 feet distance. These 4 wheelers keep on cutting in front of us. I quit a company because of these cameras I told them. I don't get speeding tickets nor do I get in accidents. I told them if they didn't like the way I drive, then you come drive your on truck. It takes trucks a while to speed up and we wouldn't get any miles if we are always are on the brakes. I just use my Jake brake to slow down. My brakes last 100,000 miles. If she needs a job with an awesome boss. Let me know. I've been written up for speeding because the GPS is not accurate and proved that. This job is hard enough without the bull these company's are giving us. It doesn't pay me enough to work for a company like that
I'm glad my company I drive for doesn't have a driver facing camera in my truck. The company drivers do but LPs don't. The last company I drove for had driver facing cameras and it pissed me and my man off. He went and blocked the lens with the middle visor. I see the point but they can turn the cameras on at will which is missed up. Very intrusive. They just need to record when an event happens. Sometimes it's a third party that reviews the footage and then they forward it to the company. We need to fight back against this because it violates our rights as soon as we turn off the truck and go on break.
Inward facing cameras are illegal. Any lawyer will say the same thing. They CANNOT face the sleeper bunks. That is the driver's personal space, like a home, and is deemed an invasion of privacy.
Are you sure about that? I’m only asking because I remember when that trucker lawyer went to court for us, over driver facing cameras, the court said there is nothing illegal about it. 🤷♂️
In theory, they should only be aimed at the driver's seat, not the bunk. The front of the truck is company work space. The sleeper is your home. The curtains are your front door.
Unfortunately the courts didn’t see it as invasion of privacy of your home.
My Curtain that goes over the front window glass, cover my in facing camera, when I'm park.
Drivers with their cellphone 📱 in their hands when they pass you and are about to sideswipe you because they're fixated on the screen are the ones with no cameras in their trucks
Just call and Report CDL driver with phone in hand, it's a Huge Fine 13,875.00 and they Lose job, The Employer gets 11,000 of the fine and the. Driver gets the rest of it. A driver is allowed to use Bluetooth and must use voice activated command's
The company i drive for has inward and outward facing cameras they say that the cameras only record during an event but i call bullshit. They can actually watch the drivers at all times because i told them that a car nearly crashed into me without a event ie red light camera going off the were able to go in and open up the video of my truck from the time i logged in to the unit and scroll through hours of footage as i stood there watching which they tell us the camera only records during events they are actually able to watch us at all times which is illegal im really thinking about filing a lawsuit against the company for illegal surveillance
I know exactly how she feels, I have the same problems with the company I work with and the safety don’t have a clue on how to drive a truck.
There is a class action lawsuit, currently gathering info, against companies using in cab facing cameras, violating BIPA. Do a search for the link in Illinois. I listed the link here but I guess it violated some policy.
She might needa start applying to other companies. The company she’s with have their rules set in place to be abided by and they seem like they are not gonna change. So yea she needa fight her case and just go to another company. Simple as that
You put a camera on me. I'm pissing in my cup, scratching my nuts, picking my noise, and having great conversations with myself 😃 I wonder if the dispatchers watch when I bring the lot lizards into the sleeper berth🤔
Where are the lawfirms? Cab facing cameras are a total invasion of privacy. They are too tempting for abuse and creepy supervisors.
Heck, my camera stated seatbelt violation at me one time. Had the belt under my arm. The audio isn't suppose to be on. Dispatch and safety aren't able to watch you constantly wink wink. It's interesting that one dispatcher pegged me having a violation every day, when he first started. A new dispatcher in 1 year has me with 2. One was a hard break cause some jerk made a right turn from my left, and I had to slam on brakes cameras, we have them on our mirrors also, caught that. The other following to close in a construction zone. Sounds like she has a pervert dispatcher. And my first dispatcher was an ass.
You WILL get a ticket ($$$) for wearing your seat belt , but with the shoulder strap under your arm. Incorrect usage of seatbelt
@Kevin Scott well, duh, I know I don't wear the belt properly, I'm 5'2", driving a vehicle designed for a 6' tall male. I don't care how you adjust the strap it still cuts across my neck or digs into my shoulder joint.
@S cone since when did they design vehicles according to your height🤔❓️. All the vehicles I've driven you can adjust the height of the shoulder strap. Now my big rig you can't adjust it but still I'm 5'6" and it doesn't bother me or my neck.
The only thing I can say is each week you better save some money in the, I don't know how to wear a seat belt fund. Get use to paying those fines. They'll just keep getting bigger for each violation.
@Kevin Scott congratufuckalations. Now quit trolling me, and I've never received a ticket for seatbelt violation.
@@111scone I know about that problem if there isn’t a height adjustment slide on the mount. I’m short too and have found a metal clip that fastens at the waist to start the angle to the shoulder an adjustable distance from the fastener.
I have been dealing with inward cameras for over 6yrs. I close the curtains so they don't see what's going on in the bunk. My compaines cameras work no matter what, they are hard wired into the batteries
She's supposed to close her privacy curtains or cover the inward facing cameras when she changes her clothing. That's why I wouldn't like them inward facing cameras that is being too nit picky it's like they want people to act like an super human 🤖 robot that isn't human, it would make me feel like I would be fired just for breathing. They are making it feel like it's more then beyond modern day human slavery it sounds like torture and mental abuse.
I agree, but should they still be on???
Some trucks don’t have them. my truck don’t.
@@MuthaTrucker them creep hackers could hack them too, that's what's scary about it too
@@MuthaTrucker I don't think the inward facing cameras should even be on the rigs at all it's just too much.
Shouldn't be in there period
C'mon, now, if you are not driving, you can cover it up with something
Sucks that you have to do that
These companies shouldn’t be spying on their drivers in the first place.
She wants to tailgate.
We have these too, the mechanic or anyone in the office or the insurance company can use their cell phone to watch the cams in my truck live time.
She's telling the truth!!! Same crap happened to me when driving for Covenant
Interesting.. I’m sure she signed something or in a class that told the drivers. Any interference of the camera will result in a termination!
Then they tell her to cover it up.
That’s a “double looser situation!”
Leave before they fire you for unsafe (anything). Then your not hire able!
Or sue them for violating your privacy! Tough call for sure!
Yes I was in those classes too. I don't know which one she went through but sounds like she missed a couple days. And if i'm not mistaken and I left two August twenty twenty two the last time I remember they had curtains they do come equipped the last I checked. And I said this before what does she do? When she's at a truck stop leave the windows? No shade no privacy For all to see when she's at the truck stop when she's changing her Clothes. And nobody's there to help her figure out that she has A system where she can temperature control her vehicle the way she doesn't have to have the vehicle on Running to keep the vehicle cool or hot. I honestly have nothing to hide with the video camera facing Inward Or she could just turn down the sunvisor . But what gets me is that she doesn't know that the Truck comes equipped with a curtain for privacy that i'm a little lost On that . Now her driving habits that's something she may have to work on. But I can say that this is A bit much or she's blowing it way out of proportion. But obviously it's going to be on if she's in park with the truck running and moving around about inside the cab. I think she should have looked over everything before she made that video. It is going to be One Of those moments hand to forehead Duh Moments.
I only had a driver facing camera 6 days and remember how it made a tense day trying always not to trip the camera and get called into the office for a camera trip.
When the truck is parked or you are on your break. You can cover the inward facing camera with a hat or towel or something. The inward facing camera should only be on when you are driving. Not when you are parked. Honestly all she had to do is to cover the inward forward facing with a towel or something when she is parked
I see you just a steering wheel holder. 2 years in
It also records phone conversations as you call other companies when you quit
@@406MenaceRacecar True. Lol
I cover it all da time...
We as truck drivers should not have to do any of that. We should feel comfortable driving without people spying too hard. We should feel comfortable and safe when we shutdown and get ready for bed. Get out of here with that all she needed to do is cover it with a towel. It wouldn't matter. They can still record audio with the inward facing camera as well. Matter of fact, some companies actually will write you up if you cover the lens of the cameras even while sleeping. So you know nothing about what truck driver go through.
I was on light duty for a broken bone. So my company had me answering phones in the dispatcher office. I physically saw dispatchers watching drivers on those cameras and sharing footage with other people. Don't believe anything they say about those cameras. And definitely don't trust a silly little light and what color it is blinking or showing. Its garbage.
She is correct they record conversation and all she does dressed and undressed.. I had a company lie to my face .. and I purposely did a too close and phone conversation he ask me what was i talking about it was a john wick movie.. he actually played it .. i asked I thought they don’t listen to my personal or record while i was in the sleeper.. that’s a bull s#!t lie .. oh they been looking at you.. because he actually acted a little funny wanting to see guy’s.. needless to say i am not with them . Truth is if you have a accident you are screwed .. get a better job
Is this a Company truck???
It doesn't belong to the driver, get over it!😢
I don't feel bad for this woman at all. She chooses to work for this company.
Exactly. She isn't too bright
I drove a truck with lytx cameras like this. My company was on me for distracted driving events at first but after I just said fuck it and let the camera beep all day they left me alone. That following too closely is bullshit too, all the camera shit is bullshit. The only camera should be facing outside to protect the driver
I walked the second I got back for the tec to install cam in truck after 12 YEARS at company, see ya .🎥📸📷📽
That's exactly what happened to me when I was working for a company which name starts with H and ends with H. Thanks God I had no violations,no tickets, no accidents...but as soon as I left the company they wanted to make my life impossible and even refusing to give proves of my job there to the new company I was going to work for.
They were always looking to me inside de cabin when I was driving, even when I never tailgated. And sometimes I noticed the Camara was on even when the engine was off. Having a Camara facing outside can help you a lot, I would say the Camara is a NEED, but I don't see the need to recording a driver on and off the whole journey and much less if the driver has a clean record for years and the company never sees you driving distracted.
Hello former Hirschbach driver!☺️👋
These “Safety” in companies need to get sued something has to be done “Safety” is ruining and destroying people’s lives and justice needs to be done.
Dang camera is a distraction, it’s stressing out the drivers, it’s aggravating, get together and vote to throw your keys in the planter.
Sunstate had those. I just put a tape over the lens during my 10hr, or other break time. If you're afraid to cover it, find another company🤷♂️
Send her to my company! There’s no cab facing cameras and safety is extremely lenient! #sweetexpress
If they want to watch me I'm gonna be as disgusting as I can be and give them a show they never will forget.if im not breaking the law what can they do?
There's an organization called the teamsters. You organized that way your problems are solved and you get a voice in your work-life.
I left trucking when electronic logs came out. As of 2024, ALL new vehicles sold in the U.S. have driver facing cameras. I don't mean just trucks, I mean ALL vehicles. The video and audio is sent to the vehicle manufacturer in real time, as it happens, over a 24/7 WiFi connection, and they sell it to anyone who wants it.
Tell her to come over to Prime INC she won’t have to worry about that headache anymore and she will make a lot more money.