Why Peragus is SO IMPORTANT to KOTOR 2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ต.ค. 2021
- Today we're looking into the introduction of KOTOR 2, and answering why Peragus is so important to KOTOR 2 as a storytelling platform!
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Already saying it in the comments.
Again, please do tell Darth Bane's story, let alone the "Useless Info" on said story. Oh, and any chance you want to check out the Legacy comics?
Peragus 100% it's one of my all time favourite introduction sequences in gaming. It's extremely atmospheric and tone setting for the whole game. You really put to words what I've felt for years
I may cover bane in the far future, but for now I have no plans to make any videos on him.
@@100StarWars oh man you really need to do Bane...he is my favorite sith Lord...I have a theory...
At the end of the Bane Trilogy, Darth Bane grabs Darth Zannahs hand...Bane had a twitch in his hand...Zannahs left with that twitch...name transferred his essence into Zannah...and so goes the Bane dynasty...and that dynasty never ended...I remember something about Plagious master having a problem with that same hand at some point...and I remember himself having a similar issue...I don't have an answer for Palpatine yet...but Anakin lost that hand...Luke lost that hand........it's not one that a lot of people like to think about but #1 the host has to be willing or weaker minded...Bane was extremely strong willed and I think could probably overpower or "deal" with most of the sith Lords...deal as in work alongside or use their minds to his benefit...#2 if the host isn't willing there is always the risk of defeat...but the fact that every sith Lord all the way to Skywalker had that hand issue...well...it's worth a thought I think...
@@100StarWars And the Legacy comics?
The mystery surrounding Peragus is brilliantly executed, climaxing with Sion walking down that dark hallway on the Harbinger. It's foreboding. The "run here, decode that, run back there" nature of it is a bit annoying, but the narrative of the level is really well done, IMO. Also, I laugh every time I do the space walk. "Let's take the animation and speed from the first game and just crank it up 10x. That'll look fine." 🤣
I agree with everything you said about the build up with Peragus but I think running around the harbinger part, actually adds more to the thrilling tension. The plot continues to move and you know what’s lurking in the ship but the game keeps adding more quests for you to do before you’re able to move forward and that’s the intense part. The combination of a growing fear being inside the ship and the anxiety of wanting to get out of it as fast as you can but can’t cause you’re running around going back and forth.
@@suprisebitch99 absolutely. When people throughout the game accuse you of the explosion being your fault it's like "Dude, I only spent 2 hours running for my life from robots, assassins, and a Dark Lord! Sorry about that 🙄."
Obsidian used to specialize in 1 thing: making low-effort sequels that killed franchises. They killed two great Bioware franchises, KOTOR and Neverwinter Nights. I still can't forgive them for NWN2, as I was a persistent world developer in the original NWN and they broke multiplayer through bad choices and utter incompetence in NWN2. NWN1 actually outlived NWN2 by around 8 years.
@@WardenWolf how did they kill KOTOR? They wanted to make 3 but were denied the opportunity. KoToR 2 is an incredible game that went unfinished because it was rushed by the publisher.
Didnt they have only about 14 months to make it.
As I've gotten older and more like experienced in story telling, I've grown to massively appreciate the Peragus introduction of KOTOR2
I think many people are the same!
With me it’s an issue bc straight after is telos wich makes 10 play throughs tedious but yeah it’s still pretty cool
Guess I'm part of the odd group then because I greatly prefer Peragus over Taris.
Taris to me is little more than a city buzzing with life. But Peragus is this mystery where you wake up, everyone is dead, all the droids are hostile, "Something" is hunting you, sabotage and disrepair everywhere. You need to somehow get off this rock. How? Why? Where?
I think you hit the nail on the head when you described the theme for Peragus: Despair.
The cutscene showing you are being hunted by the stealthed assassins, gives you this sense of dread. Never knowing when or where they could show up, but they are always watching, always following you.
7:46 *Insert 'This is fine' meme here*
Also, Taris seemed so stuck-up in the surface.
By the comments, I don't think you're in a odd group at all ;)
Atton makes perugaies the best out of the two also great story
Peragus seems like much less despair than Taris. You can FEEL the despair in the air at all levels of Taris. All these people know their planet's good days are behind them, with it no longer being a major trading stop. Even the "rich" people on the surface know this. They all know their world is dying.
Peragus was very haunted house vibes the feeling that your constantly been watched. The fuel sourced from Peragus is vital to the restoration of the republic worlds devestated by war bringing new life to them.
Korriban was the start of Sion's path to redemption and the exile's dealing with her past decisions in the force visions.
I've read many people talk about Sion's path to healing, but is that a planet theme or a character theme?
@@100StarWars Sion is probably character. But the visions/memories of the exile were planet
Oh, I absolutely adore the visions cave on Korriban. Seeing Malak as a young, charismatic Jedi willing to go to whatever lengths to save lives, the soldiers on Dxun who know they are doomed if you order them to charge across the minefield. One bit that jumps out at me is the body of the Jedi Nebelish who (it is implied) turned on his companions because the visions convinced him that they were his enemies.
I used to hate Korriban when I was a kid (am not really a fan of horror), but the older I've got, the more I appreciate its importance to the plot of the game.
Here I'm sitting having loved Peragus over Taris all along. KotOR II is my favorite game of all time. I love that it's dark and I love that Peragus gave me the creeps as a child. Remote mining station, everyone dead, a half-exploded planet in the background, weird spider droids on a rampage and nothing but shady characters around. Fantastic!
8:34 - Kreia: This is how it's ACTUALLY done, Princess Leia.
Looks like the Twins taught themselves well.
Hahahahaha
I think Peragus is great. It does become a bit tedious to go through after x amount of playthroughs, but really the part most people want to skip is Telos (specifically Citadel Station).
Well, I think any game has its tedious moments if you've played it 28974875 times haha
Ahh yes... I have only had 2 playthroughs. Ages ago.
I LOVE Kotor 2, but Peragus and Telos Surface are always such a pain.
I personally liked the spooky vibes of Peragus, it reminded me of Event Horizon or like the Aliens movies.
I gotten the same vibe when I played it
Especially the music, it's great. Even spookier when you board the Republic ship
I agree completely.. I loved that feeling of not feeling safe and wondering what's going on and slowly figuring things out
While in the healing tank:
“Game over, man”
Ooh, great taste in films. Also perfect for this month and Halloween, I might add.
I always loved peragus. Wandering the desolate halls and rooms that are littered with dead bodies and broken down droids, the sounds of machinery working despite no one there to operate them. Plus the mystery of how it ended up the way it was and finding the Holo vids and accounts of various members sets up a tone and feeling that generally in any other game I've played gets to.
Imagine how good Peragus would be in a remake... I imagine dead space vibes
@@100StarWars hmmm, I wouldn't go that far......maybe though I have no doubt that it would be an amazing experience if done properly.
Paragus to me is one of the best intros to a game. It basically says “usually in Star Wars we start with a battle in space or something like that…this ain’t that kind of story”.
Kotor ain't like that, I've always been of the opinion Kotor(s) are true star wars (discluding the old republic) they capture a real essence, something meaningful, these stories are so substantial, The Kotors are like how Majora's Mask is to the Zelda franchise, it's like how Fallout NV is to the Fallout series, it's the best in its ip, in atmosphere and every other way
@@imonke5303 I agree. They stand as their own Perfect Game. Although KOTOR 1 did start with a Space Battle like A New Hope did, but I think it did it better.
Yep, it sets things up nicely. Not that I blame players who got annoyed, most of them just wanted to get their lightsaber and fight stuff, not run around a mining facility. But personally I really enjoy Peragus,
@@dreadrath Same here. The eerie dark atmosphere where everyone except you, a scoundrel and a shady granny are dead set the mood really well on what you should be expecting for the rest of the game.
I agree!
Secretly, the entire hope of the galaxy and the Republic was placed on the Telos Restoration Project. If it had failed, more star systems would have seceded like Onderon because of the damage they had sustained during the Mandalorian Wars and the Jedi Civil War. Peragus, while a crappy gas station in space, was supplying Telos and Citadel Station with fuel to support the project. Its destruction put all of that in jeopardy. Fortunately, Vogga was there to step in with fuel from Sleheyron.
A hutt saving the day? Madness
@@100StarWars 'Mr Krabs' I like money :)
@@ShamriCayia Hutt: If I don't give you fuel one particular jedi would cut my head clean off.
first time i played kotor2 and it started with peragus and the voice of kreia. I knew this is gonna be a totally different game with a different vibe and "feeling" to it and i knew i gonna love it more than i did with kotor 1
As soon as you meet her, that's when you know.
I loved Peragus, because you had no idea what was going on. You were slowly piecing everything together.
It certainly was like a big old puzzle
Oh yeah that place totally gave me the creeps back then. Claustrophobic even. I guess job well done!
YESSS, YESSSS FOR Revans sake YESS
Peragus is a great introduction to the tone and angle the story of K2 goes for.
Is not perfect because it was longer than it need to, but even being 2 hours longer than it should does not take the impact it has.
For sure, it's definitely not perfect. But, it has its moments :)
I enjoy playing through Paragus. I think its cool because you slowly learn what happened on the facility while you slept. Sort of like a murder mystery game. You slowly uncover clues as to how everyone died. I especially love watching the holorecords throught the level.
Murder mystery is the best way to put it!
I remember falling in love with this game, writing notes as to what truly happened to the exile during the beginning because it is confusing and so much details happens, especially if you want to understand how it happened when you get close to the end.
I quite like Peragus! It’s definitely a slow grind through Peragus at the beginning, but I think it’s a great setup for the beginning of the game! I love the mystery of Peragus and it’s evolution as you slowly listen to recordings of the crew. I enjoyed having to find out what happened to Peragus and the setup of a Kotor 2 overall! I didn’t think I’d like Peragus when I started Kotor 2, but I’m glad I was wrong!
It's like a murder mystery set in space haha
@@100StarWars and the mystery can be solved, when you watch holovid at the elevator. Especially when true mastermind uses too similiar patterns, when expresses emotions.
Sometimes after a long day, I pour me some jack and coke and sit back and enjoy listening to someone who loves this game as much as I do.👍
Jack and Coke is the perfect drink for some KOTOR goodness :)
Nothing about jack and coke makes me think of relaxation but I can agree with the sentiment ;)
I used a mod to skip Peragus on a recent playthrough, but then I realized it had given me the wrong HK-47 part - the chassis instead of the vocabulator - making it impossible for me to get HK-47 in the playthrough. Don't skip this mission, even on a repeat playthrough, or you might regret it later on.
I think next time I play I am just going to save edit all the HK parts in. Normally the start of my playthrough is going to the different planets to do enough to grab all his parts before I actually properly start to play.
I love Peragus. I always have ever since I first played the game. Peragus is so dark and mysterious, the soundtrack for Peragus is wonderful and some of my favorite songs from the whole game. Death surrounds it. It's cold, full of machines, its isolated with no hope. It's a great tonal set up for Kotor 2. I love the whole tone of Kotor 2. Star Wars was best when the Jedi was analyzed for their hypocrisy. Pacifists, except for times of war. Fair, until they come across something they fear and understand.
I like Peragus so much that even on my multiple repeated playthroughs I’ve always inspected everything like it’s the first time, never skipping a single room, or a holo-record, or a datapad, or a dialogue option with Kreia, Atton and HK-50. Somehow it never gets old for me. Goosebumps and shivers go down my spine as I slowly unravel the events of these few recent days.
Of course, I like Taris too, but will pick Peragus over it every single time.
I actually started my journey into the EU when I was over at my late Aunt's house years ago and I noticed a game sitting on the table called Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords. I think it was the cover that caught my eye. It was so different than the Star Wars I was used to. I asked my cousin if I could play it. The atmosphere of Peragus was so alien to me that it almost scared me, but I fell in love. He gave me that game and I went home and turned my Xbox on and stayed up as late as I could and I would wake up so early out of sheer excitement to be able to play it again. Then a few years later, I was maybe 13, I was at Walmart with my mom getting stuff for camp, and I go into the book section and there was a certain book sitting on the shelf. It's title? Star Wars: Fate of the Jedi: Omen. I begged my mom to buy it for me and she caved and agreed to do it. Every time I had downtime, I would open that book and get as far as I could, just soaking it in like a sponge. Those are the two things that had a massive impact on my love of Star Wars. I'm a gamer and a writer and those two had such a huge impact in shaping me into who I am today and even how I see the world. I'm actually working on my own story within the universe. It's technically fan fiction, but I hope one day to be able to see it published, and I've had some very good feedback from friends and fellow lovers of Star Wars, but that's a dream for now.
Yes!! I was about 10-11 years old when i played Kotor, i remember picking out the game at a pawn shop in town, and the thing that caught my eye was the art cover for Kotor 1… i never expected the game to be a turn based RPG, but i fell in love with it… then when i found out there was a part 2, and saw the cover art for it.. it just intrigued me so much. I’ve come to love Kotor 2 more, but both are my favorite games ever
I disagree, Korriban is the start of healing process of Sion that results with him accepting death.
I like this point of view.
Gotta love the "Talking the Monster to Death" trope.
Is that the healing theme of the planet itself or the healing theme of the character though? Korriban is very much a graveyard, and your actions impact it in no way.
@@100StarWars That's also fair.
@@100StarWars I disagree...I stole all the artifacts in Kotor 1 HAHAHAHA
Personally for me Taris seems to be a longer run somehow even considering you got that fast transit system. Plus you got to stay level 2 if you want to make most of the Force points later on Dantooine. And after Peragus you can use the Force and yet have to go through some flights unarmed. Pretty cool.
Worship these videos man; always a pleasant break from studying to catch up & contemplate on my favorite childhood game.. please keep producing these!!
Thanks Tony, will do! Good luck with your studies!
I think your observations here are quite profound. Kotor 2 really is about "you're where a horrific chain of events took place and most of everything is dead or in shambles and now you must sift through what remains to find meaning in all of it." Peragus was systematically wiped out by HK droids, The Harbinger was wiped out by Sion, Telos was one of the most horrific bombardments the Sith inflicted next to Taris, Korriban's already bloodied history is painted in a new coat of blood as the academy destroyed itself, the Dantooine enclave was horrifically decimated and has become a refugee hotspot, Dxun was a battleground of the Mandalorian Wars, Onderon's people have grown so divided that it has become a police state and teeters on civil war, Nar Shaddaa drowns in the sin and agonized torment of those displaced by the wars, and of course, Malachor V is a graveyard of hellish nightmares of the worst event in galactic history balled together like a dirty bandage that was left to fester.
Man, your comment about Canderous made me realize the insanity that KoToR 3 was going to be. Revan left Carth in charge of the Republic fleet, Canderous in charge of the Mandalorian people, Bastila, the Lost Jedi took over the Jedi council under Meetra Surik's advising, and Meetra was arguably one of the best tacticians in the galaxy. Had he returned to bring the fight to the Sith Empire, some of the hardest hitters in the galaxy would have been mobilized under his command
I'm loving all these kotor videos lately. Good job making the most of this time!
Things can only go up from here the more we learn about the remake!
a lot of us needed this video. and I emphasize your words: my initial feedback on KOTOR 2 was, and I quote, "depressing", and to me this is one of the reasons why this game is so brilliant: it shows a darker face of this universe that we all love. I even dare to say it can even compare itself to our own reality. and all of the philosophy within it... "Apathy is death" for example, it truly can be applied to our own world. it showed us the aftermath of a game that all of us love as well, and how bad things can go and age.
I don´t know if I am allowed to say this, but when we play videogames, some of us want to escape from reality. therefore, if we run up to something depressing, dark, hostile, etc... yeah, I can see why Peragus receives its hatred, but I only wish people could see what it represents and what you emphasized on your video - healing.
don´t get me wrong though, it is a beautiful and painful beggining to a brilliant game. and I'll never get tired of saying that a lot of us need a bit of healing every now and then - making this game a even more personal experience
Bro agree with every word you said. Very well put
And this is why this game is so amazing.
Amen
Great video. You could argue that Korriban also carries the healing theme because of the Force visions that make you reflect on your past choices and resolve to fix what broke you. 'Apathy is death' is exactly the kind of lesson someone like The Exile needed to learn at that point.
Good video. Philosophical in nature and establishing a system of morality. In a video game well over a decade old.
Thanks, Aaron!
In my opinion, the opening to KOTOR 2 on Peragus was better than KOTOR 1 on Taris and simply one of the greatest openings to an RPG. After becoming attached to the Ebon Hawk and T3 in the first game, it was crazy to see the state they were in at the beginning. The whole Peragus part of the story is so mysterious and almost creepy in a way. It gives you a real sense of emptiness and really sets the tone for the game while introducing the player to Meetra. Peragus was one of my favorite parts of KOTOR 2
I wonder if Kotor 2 will get a Remake if Aspyrs Kotor Remake becomes a succes
if that happens maybe Kotor 3 will finaly happen
I really hope so.
Without Avallone they should not touch KOTOR II
@@kacperrys3003 Hopefully they hire him
I like the Peragus part of the game. It lays some foundations for the game like the fact The Exchange has a bounty on the Jedi, causing friction in the workforce, with some keen to collect on the bounty. Then there's the HK-50 Assassin Droid who murdered most of the human occupants of the Asteroid to get to Meetra Surik. From memory thanks to the Restored Content Mod he was actually working for G0-T0 but I'm not 100% sure about that.
The most important part Peragus played in the overall story was that they were the suppliers of fuel for Citadel Station above the war ravaged planet Telos IV and after the facility is destroyed your player character is reminded many times by Lieutenant Grenn in particular that without fuel the Citadel Station cannot remain in orbit and the restoration of the planet will fail, meaning other worlds ravaged by war would not get funding by the Republic for restoration projects.
There is a Hutt on Nar Shadda called Vogga who you can negotiate with to supply fuel to Citadel Station after the destruction of Peragus.
My issue with peragus, just like taris, is that it's played almost exactly the same every time (which is worse when half of it is just about getting around 1 force field)
Its absolutely great the first few times through, and I still prefer it over taris (which I always skip now)
Well, that's the inevitable fate of an intro sadly
They're both very different, too.
In KOTOR, for the whole of Taris, you're playing a Star Wars game without any Force powers. You're thrust into a conflict you don't know, trying to save someone you haven't met, and only after all that, do you begin your "proper" journey. It feels much more like a prologue, like an intro into the game than the game itself.
In KOTOR 2 you're just thrown in, not knowing who you are, where you are, why you're there, who's your friend and who's your enemy.
There's no hand holding, you're gonna have to figure out pretty much everything, decide who to trust, what to do, where to go, etc.
The dialogue options you get also help to set up the game universe. You can decide how the previous game finished, and maybe you don't even notice it the 1st time you play, how you determine the relationships between the characters so early on.
Even the tutorial in the Ebon Hawk shows you the tone of the game, and let's you know that you're gonna have to fend for yourself a lot.
That is a great take. It’s very *chefs kiss*
Glad you enjoyed it :)
I'm glad I played Kotor 2 when I was young and wasn't drowning in popular opinions on games I was playing. I was completely isolated from an online community when I played the game and I LOVED peragus and the entire game. I didn't even know the game was incomplete, because I assumed that there was more in it that I hadn't seen yet
Peragus was my first ever introduction, prologue of KotOR 2 aside, to the Knights franchise as a whole. Yes, I played 2 before 1, because the shop I bought it from had a copy of 2 on hand for a year or so, and none of 1, so that's what I had. Yes, I was confused for most of the game as to the wider context of what was going on; fun fact on that regard, it wasn't until I ran into Mandalorians on Duxn that I stopped mishearing "Mandalorian War" as "Malastarian War" and assuming it was a war with the Gran.
That aside, Peragus hooked me in a way that Taris didn't when I finally played KotOR itself later, and for one big reason; intrigue. Taris was fun, sure, but Peragus was interesting. The mystery of what happened to the miners, the dark industrial environment, the chilling moment when the Harbinger appears and silently docks with the station... It has the aesthetic of a horror film, or a neo-noir.
That being said the intrigue can be part of why it starts to get less fun on later playthroughs. The mystery is already solved, and so much of the atmosphere is lost. All that's left is a sequence that can turn into a bit of a slog. It was already a little too long first time through, and second time... It drags, unfortunately.
Another fun fact RE:my first time playing, this time about the Harbinger's arrival; not knowing that the Hammerhead-class cruiser was a Republic design I saw the weird, almost tribal looking of that elongated bow piece with the bridge window that looked almost like a visor, and my brain immediately went "Oh, that's a _Sith_ looking ship right there".
I played KOTOR 2 first too, I think it's the best way to play!
Peragus is my favorite introduction to any rpg. The mystery and the feeling of discovery is just perfect.
I consider Paragus one of my favorite video game intro sequences of all time. It just hit me so perfectly , and I can't really put into words exactly why or how. But it instantly hooked me into Kotor2 harder than almost any intro has.
I think part of it was the situation in which I started playing the game though, because I remember the situation just as much as I do the game itself. I had gotten the game earlier in the day after school, having never played the first one and really having no idea what I was getting into. I just really wanted a new game and it sounded cool. But we had a shared PC at the time and my sister was using it all day for school work so I couldn't play it at all that day. So after everyone went to bed I snuck downstairs at 1AM, booted up the PC, and started my journey into Kotor2. In the dark, quiet house when I was supposed to be asleep. I played it all morning and I absolutely did not want to stop. Ended up getting about 2 hours of sleep before school because I couldn't pull myself away from this enthralling mystery in a ship all alone as I sat all alone in the dark.
From my first playthrough to the many that came after it
I never once was displeased by any second of wandering on Pegasus
I always liked both Taris and Peragus. I did find Taris interesting, but Peragus always kept me on my toes and had so many questions. I did love the KOTOR 2 story telling. I always loved stories of the character healing past wounds. Whether you are healing your soul, relationships, etc etc. Peragus was one of my favorite locations because I always liked starting locations that show something terrible happened. It makes me want to investigate. My first playthroughs, I didn't know it was a story of healing until the 2nd or 3rd time. By then, I enjoyed it even more. Also T3-M4 was one of my favorite companions, next to HK-47. T3 was great in KOTOR 2's intro, and through out the story. I also loved when you gained enough influence and stuff with T3, he would show you the recording Bastila left for him on what to do if he and Revan were ever separated.
I think Korriban's theme is one of acceptance, an important part in the healing process. Its point is to show that no matter what happens, keep going, even when everything and everyone around you dies.
By landing on Korriban, Meetra must accept her past and let the horrors of the Mandalorian Wars be put to rest (in this case, bury them in a graveyard)
Meetra, yes. But that would make her narrative theme one of healing, not Korribans ;)
@@100StarWars I think what he is trying to say is, the setting sets up the next step of the theme. Much as your environment shapes you, Korriban is a graveyard, but that graveyard made a reaction in her. So to be more precise, it is the exile's theme of healing that was triggered by Korriban.
I'd take a step back and say that the central theme of KotOR2 is manipulation and how small changes can have major effects on the world since Kreia even clearly states that "healing is manipulation".
The word "echo" is heard a lot in KOTOR 2 as well. So I'd also add the story is also about consequences of people's actions and repercussions. How certain actions can effect other things.
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I trusted mandalore when the game basically told you he’ll be a permanent companion. He helped when there was no need for him to do so. To follow and help me was him basically abandoning his people just to help.
I adored Peragus. The dark mood made me remember playing the game in the late rainy evenings as a kid.
Excellent vid! The first time I played through Kotor 2 when I was twelve and not really mature enough to appreciate it's darker tones... I remember hating Peragus and almost quitting on playing because of it. I have to play it again and really soak in the story. Your videos definitely encourage me to do so!
This is a great point!
The most striking difference between Peragus and Taris whenever I go from one game to the other is the slight change of blue for actions
I love what Obsidian did for Kotor 2, the team really sets in the darker tone in contrast to the first game. I still own my physical xbox copy and despite it being ported to newer hardware, I cant express how hyped and satisfied I was when I picked this game up after the first games well deserve praises. Obisidian did an amazing job for the time contraints they had.
FINALLY another video, missed your voice!
I released one the day haha
Fantastic and amazing video my friend and again I'm sorry for commenting late. I learned about Peragus from watching Darthycey's videos, sorry about that. Peragus introduces us to Meetra Surik the Jedi Exile and the adventures that follow so I enjoy it a lot
*Reason #1:* Atton meeting Meetra (being her in underwear, by the way) by first time at the Station was funny as Sh*t
And also the weird Jedi Academy reference.
True xD
I prefer it over Taris, even if sometimes I don’t know what to do in the Peragus Mining Facilities but I do like it, just getting throught it and like getting through it.
I like fighting the droids, and completing the task and such, it reminds me of Darth Malak’s ship (what was it called?).
I just find it appealing unlike Taris, I find Taris good but with Peragus I simply like the way it’s designed.
Leviathan!
Tatis just seems tedious to me anymore...doesn't take me that long to get through it anymore, but it's a lot of "go here"...."go there"...."do this thing and go back".......
@@100StarWars
Thanks
Excellent video!!!
Thank you :)
You nailed it! Peragus was my introduction to the KOTOR franchise and RPGs as well for that matter. I was maybe 12 at the time and I immediately picked up on the darker and more mature tone of this game. I enjoyed KOTOR 2 so much I went back and got KOTOR 1 so I could enjoy the full experience of the KOTOR franchise. Honesty I think KOTOR 1 & 2 are just better Star Wars stories than the movies.
By the time this video is uploaded plus the time the game was released, youre still hasnt got off peragus
How did you...
You mean Taris? ;)
@@100StarWars same with taris
I honestly can't imagine playing Kotor 2 without the Peragus sequence. It feels very important to the story and I always enjoy going through it in my dozens of playthroughs. I very slightly prefer it over Taris. Yet it seems I'm in the minority here.
Same, that's what's a bit annoying. 🥴 I have my complaints about the prologue and Peragus, probably too many...yet it's honestly pretty fitting and sufficient for the rest of the game, does a lot of things better and more impactfully than we may realize.
"I love Peragus!"
*proceeds to mod lightsaber and max force powers to get through it faster*
;)
This games atmosphere was so dang good. One of the few intro areas to a game that I actually love replaying.
Love what you do. Would love to see more in depth analysis of the story line for both kotor games. Keep it up 👍👍👍
Thanks dude!
I never minded Peragus because I sometimes get a super OP weapon or set of armor almost immediately. Also, it's always fun to take out that HK 50 with his own hacked droids.
I remember finding Dark Jedi Robes on the Harbinger as a kid and I was ectastic haha
@@100StarWars I’ve found Padawan Robes, Exar Kun’s Light Battle Armor, a Plasma Projector and a bunch of other random stuff there. It’s great.
8:34 Well, now we know how Kreia escaped the Harbinger after Sion cut off her hand...
The force works in mysterious ways my friend.
never thought about peragus in that way, but yeah, it really makes sense now cuz the feeling I had about peragus are mostly the main feelings about whole game, so you're right about it
Every time I watch anything talking about KOTOR 2, I want to immediately replay it It doesn't matter if I've already played it this year
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Peragus is an amazing beginning level. I love the way you are lost, picking through the ruins gradually working out what happened.The little snippets of information from the logs, finding the collapsed passages in the tunnels, the dead miners. So atmospheric. I love it. Even the prologue bit on the damaged Ebon Hawk is worth doing just for the extra background, although I wish you could do it without the constant 'tips'.
I always find though, the next level, after you escape, where you are immediatley arrested, to be where it all slows right down and drags a bit. Telos space station? If anything, I wish you could skip that and get straight into the Ebon Hawk and choose destinations right after leaving Peragus.
Watching this video again has made me want to revisit Peragus.
All the holo recordings are awesome too and really add to the story on peragus
Murder Mystery in space ;)
I loved peragus, it was as close as Star Wars has gotten to horror. The exile wake up alone and confused, in a mining station in the middle of nowhere, and it’s full of corpses. And before you can get off the station a ghost ship arrives, full of invisible enemies, and driven by sith revenant that seems unstoppable.
I actually really like Peragus. See, it perfectly sets the tone of KotOR 2. Taris in K1 was supposed to show you that galaxy is full of life and full of hope. Peragus... well, you wake up in a Kolto tank. Everyone around you is dead. You learn, that there's a bounty on your head, and that Jedi are mostly dead, save few. And... that's how the rest of the game feels. Depressing, sad and... heavy. Hell, even Korriban feels way more tough to play than in K1.
When I first found Kotor 2, I literally didn't get past the med bay with the plasma torch door, the one with Kreia in it. Mind you I was probably...12? Something like that. I put the game down and I am not kidding when I say I literally didn't try it again until almost a year later. I was bored, had played through all my other original Xbox games, and tbh I had never played KOTOR 1 before either, so I only ever got KOTOR 2 just because it was a star wars game. After fiddling around with the game for about 15 minutes, I finally figured out that I needed to equip the plasma torch I had looted in order to bash the door open. It was literally and figuratively like opening a door to a whole new world when I finally bashed that first door open, I proceeded to put somewhere around 700 hours into KOTOR 2 as of right now haha, no regrets
I have played KOTOR II for many years and I never had a problem with Peragus at all. What Peragus does is that it sets the tone and atmosphere of the entire story early on; one of the hallmarks of good writing.
Peragus my favorite part of the game. Sort of horror detective part. I love scrolling video journal. Didn't even know, ,that people could hate that
You know, I've played this game at least ten times over and I've dreaded playing through Peragus pretty much every time since my first couple playthroughs, because of how slow it is.
But after watching this video, you reminded me that my first couple of times through the game (when I was still trying to really grasp all the little interconnected bits of the plot threads) I actually really enjoyed the narrative arc and the true depth of everything that happened at the station. Just once I knew the story beats by heart, I want to get into the meat of the game faster so I rush through Peragus.
Aside from awesome video and the brilliant as always analysis......how is there a lightsaber and Matukai Apprentice robe on Peragus? And Kreia on the spacewalk without a suit? Is this real? What is it from? Am I missing something? Anyone else confused here???
Thank you! The Dark Side is a pathway to many abilities... some considered to be, unnatural ;)
It sets the tone for the whole game. It’s a bit tedious to replay (not as bad as Telos but still), but as a kid playing this for the first time, I was EXTREMELY immersed in the mystery. How did these Miners die? Who did all this? But most importantly; Why?
You ever notice how much Peragus is like System Shock?
1) You wake up out of stasis inside of a derelict space station where most everybody is dead.
2) You even get to go inside a derelict military starship like the Rickenbacker.
2) Most of your enemies are robots that have turned against their human masters.
3) Most of the backstory and lore is told through posthumous log entries.
4) You can get access to psychic powers.
5) An artificial intelligence is behind everything and intends to kill you too.
The area you go to after this is even called *_CITADEL STATION!!_*
KotOR 2 and the first Witcher are my two GOAT games. Both have that different take on traditional RPG storytelling, blurred lines, a non manichean morality and an exceptional introduction that awesomely makes you dive in that world deeper than you realize (I don't count KM as an introduction for TW1, it's more a tutorial, I'm talking about around Wyzima)
Darth Sion's arrival on the Harbinger is spine tingling. Ghost ship stuff!
Peragus really should've been pushed further, made even darker and bleaker, given a more claustrophobic feel and almost play like a survival horror, have it as a symbolic representation of where the Exile is mentally and emotionally.
I agree, it should've been visually darker.
Peragus is one of the most memorable and best parts of all Kotor for me
if i had force storm and jedi robes on peragus i would probably love it too
Save game editor is your friend sir ;)
I think my issue with peragus is that there aren't enough npcs, its a good intro, but i think it would have been cool if you could save some folks but they throw you under the bus when you get to telos
also theres like three tutorial levels, with peragus, telos station, and then you have telos' surface, also the tutorial area as well. . .
I must be one of those rare people who really enjoys playing Peragus (With a few select mods of course) and while I may be reaching, Peragus as I was play it kind of reflects The Exile themself, empty, detached from the force, alive but dead, and a mining facility, stripped of life leaving only machines (Well and Atton, lol) it just feels like the right start for The Exile.
Agreed! Was the perfect start!
good video, I didn't like Paragus personally since I like the start of the rpg game be full of different early game quests to learn mechanics, changes in sequels, all that stuff. Basically I like the regular structure rpg games are made with, it has nothing to do with individual games.
But I perfectly understand why KOTOR 2 did it the way it did. Good storywriting, as with the most of the game. And what happens on Paragus is mentioned through the whole game pretty much so it's a very important event. It "echoes" through the story, you could say :P
I need to finish writing for "Dating with Kreia" but it's been hard to not repeat the same jokes I did in "drinking" and "movies"
Peragus is a puzzle you have to solve, as is the whole game. What drove me mad as a kid but I find brillant now is the fact that you cannot have the full story of the game if you play just one side. You must play both ways and try other discussions if you want the whole picture. In Peragus, you can't figure out what happened if you don't check almost all the holos.
Yo, I would love to see a KOTOR 2 play-through livestream.
I've actually done it twice now hahah
Peragus is probably my favorite game openings of all time. It added horror and mystery to Star Wars in a way that 13 year old me had never seen before at the time. This is probably the only opening that I don’t dread replaying.
The main theme of all locations (well and the game too) is abscence and death of the Force. The game itself very subtly hints at that as you visit planets touched by the Mandalorian Wars.
Prologue - as soon as Exile gets on Harbinger it becomes a dead place, sabotaged by a droid. Soon Ebon Hawk almost faces the same fate, the only one "alive" is T3 who repairs this dead ghost ship and sends it to Peragus.
Peragus - every living thing is dead shortly after Exile arrives. It is only after Exile learns to hear the Force again everything around stops dying and becomes a matter of Exile's choices, guided by Kreia.
Telos - a dead world that is being rebuilt. Carried on by an artificial structure - Citadel.
Telos Polar Academy - a place dead to the Force. None of the Echani are allowed to learn to use the Force and follow a Jedi path. And Atris uses that to shield herself.
Dxun - a ravaged world by Mandalorian Wars.
Dantooine - a ravaged world by Mandalorian Wars.
Korriban - a ravaged world by Jedi Civil War.
Nar Shaddaa - a world that carries pains of those who ran here from both wars, echoing within itself.
M4-78 - world that is dead to the Force, carried by droids.
Malachor V - the place of the cause of the massive echo pain and suffering. Basically a syphon for killing the Force itself.
Onderon, Telos and Dantooine also carry an additional thematic of rebuilding Republic, but that's a carry over from the events of K1.
It is the same with your companions, each of who was touched by the previous events:
Exile - Mandalorian Wars veteran.
Kreia - Mandalorian Wars veteran, Exiled both by Jedi and Sith.
Bao-Dur - Mandalorian Wars veteran, "Exiled" by himself as he struggles to accept his actions.
Atton - Mandalorian Wars and Jedi Civil War veteran, "Exiled" by himself as he struggles to accept his actions.
Canderous - Mandalorian Wars and Jedi Civil War veteran, "Exiled" by Revan as he went onto the adventure of reuniting the clans, which is a difficult task amongst many merc Mandalorians.
Mira - Mandalorian Wars veteran who lost her only "family" there, and "Exiled" bounty hunter who doesn't kill its targets.
Hanharr - lost his family during Czerka slavery on Kashyyyk. Exile of his own, struggling to accept his own actions, unable to resist power his power.
Handmaiden - lost her family during Mandalorian Wars, "Exiled" Echani, last in rankings of the small servants.
Disciple - lost his "family" who went away on Mandalorian Wars and later on also abandoned his teachings to study what happened.
Visas - lost her "family" due to actions of Nihilus, an "Exile" of her own, last of her people.
G0-T0, T3-M4 and HK-47 are droids and as such - dead to the Force.
So the whole game itself is very Nietzsche-an, isolationistic, dead to any ex-machinas, teaching to rely only on yourself.
Peragus (and the Harbinger by extension) and Korriban are the areas in KotOR2 I am the most unsettled by simply because of how silent and barren they are. The only enemies are machines (on Peragus), very aggressive wildlife (Korriban), and people who are cloaked who only show themselves when you pass through specific sections where they’d have the clear advantage. All of them give the feeling of something from a horror movie, the latter of the three giving a feeling of similar horror characters to Jason from Friday the 13th, Michael Myers from Halloween, and Freddy Krueger from Nightmare on Elm Street.
And I think why I get so unsettled by those areas in KotOR2 is because I really don’t do well with the horror genre so I’m always tensed up waiting for that surprise jump.
Technically Korriban fits the healing theme as well, in the sense that you encounter Sion there and are introduced to his twisted, Sith version of "healing" (hence why you cannot defeat him there)
Anf if KotOR 2 was that incredible in starting the story, who knows what could await us in KotOR 3, weren't it cancelled.
If KotOR 2 is about healing, KotOR 3 could tell us about precautions to prevent infection at all.
When I first played KOTOR 2 I didn´t really get it and wasn´t really fond of it. But after a few years I tried it again and it was good. And after 10 years after I played it through and through I found the TSLRCM and was mindblowed! Long story short: I love Peragus! Can´t understand how people don´t like it. And I like exactly the fact that it is kinda like a survival horror and dark - but it isn´t dark in a bad way but mysterious. And also the Harbinger was so intense. I also love Telos. Telos is maybe the "Taris" of KOTOR 2. Boring? No. It is very diverse imho. And also I liked to finally see Telos after Carth told us so much about it.
Funny what you spoke about the companians. 😁
My first reaction to Peragus was, "Huh, I feel like I'm playing a Metroid game, not a Star Wars game," and I agree that this game needed to kinda flip the script, as it were, from KotOR1.
"That's really weird and suspicious"😂
Really interesting, well done! I think a point could be made that Korriban has a hint of healing, as there’s that whole “cave experience” that serves as a way for Meetra to confront her time in the Mandalorian wars.
I would say that's the player character narrative healing theme, not the planets! :)
@@100StarWars fair point haha. I stand corrected