2012 RAM third brake lamp removal, reseal, and reinstall
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Once again thank you. First on getting me through the 67.5 service and now this. I ended up making a gasket for it, but either way we are dry now!! Keep the videos comming!
Your welcome Ron. A seal/gasket would be much better then RTV but in the end as long as it seals and no leaks.....thats the name of the game. Thanks for watching and make sure to subscribe.
Great vid .. simple fix .. no tape no seal grinding no special sealers or tools will do my 2012 this weekend .
Best video on dealing with this problem. I've a 2001 F150 - and went ahead and removed the rear window then resealed ...big mistake.
All I had to do was apply a new weather foam strip (1/2') around the light and spread a bead of RTV - Additionally - one of the rear lamp sockets had shorted out because of the water leak. I just had to crimp and shrink seal a new socket.
Ford knows this problem is endemic of all f150s but refuses to fix it. Thanks.
Great video, probably a good idea to replace the bulbs why you have it off because you don't want to have to redo it 1 month after.
Your absolutely correct! Great idea for sure. Thanks for the comment and for watching. Make sure to subscribe
Great work man I have done all my own upgrades with you help now my dodge is looking great and I have you to thank for keeping cash in my pocket your the man brotha
Awesome. Nothing better then holding on to that money and not giving it to someone else. Now you know more about your own vehicle. Appreciate the feedback as well. Keep watching and share the videos.
Nice, clear & to the point video unlike most where the one posting wants to talk and talk and talk turning a 5 minute video into a 45 minute one. Appreciate it !!!!!
Thanks Edward for the feedback. I fully understand what you mean.....I hate it when people wont get to the point or their camera work is butchered. I try to only include what is needed and spend time on the important items. Thanks for watching and make sure to check out more of my videos. Also....dont forget to subscribe!
I did subscribe..
Edward Norton Much appreciated. Wish youtube would let us know who has or hasn't so that we don't keep asking lol. Have a great week
You rock. This was exactly the problem I was having. 5 minute fix. Thanks!
Hate that sealant needs to be used but its better then having a leak. Thanks Darren for watching and make sure to subscribe
Thanks for this video!! I discovered I have a leak and I'll be following these steps to take care of it.
There are places that sale the foam now....some have you install 2-3 layers of it. Its an option that I need to try out soon and make a follow up video. Thanks for watching and look on amazon for that foam or head to genosgarage.com and they have it as well....they made a mistake and said its for the tailgate in the catalog but its actually for the cab.
@@MotorCityMechanic thanks for the update. I will look for the foam even though I did the sealing yesterday but I rather have that ready just in case. Below is the link for the one on Amazon for reference.
smile.amazon.com/dp/B07GKVRNQ3/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_cSOWFbFTVE218
I've replaced it with another seal ticker bought at home depot but i thought that eventually it wouldn't stop the leak...this is a better idea !
Thank you for posting the diy video. I was about to drop some major money to get this problem fixed.
+Dewey Blackston Glad to see that the video helped. I appreciate you finding and for watching the video. Make sure to subscribe....I have plenty more videos related to your vehicle.
Great video thanks! My 2014 had a lake underneath the back seat. Going to get some black RTV sealant now!!👍🇺🇸
Thanks! I wish I had the time to figure something other then RTV but it works very well, just having to remove it at a later date might be fun. Thanks for watching and make sure to subscribe.
You can let the silicone cure too.. then install.. same principal from setting waterpumps.. letting them sit for a couple hours before set. Maybe set a bead on the topside water way.. thanks for the vid
My 2009 Ram is leaking at the top of the back window and puddles in the storage hole under the back seat. This sounds like a possible fix. Going to try it. Thanks!
I feel its going to be your issue for sure. Thanks for finding this channel and video. Make sure to subscribe.
I used a non hardening sealant like hylomar hp on mine mainly to make removal easier for bulb changing. great videos btw! thanks !
That's an excellent idea. Chrysler doesn't offer that type of sealant so we were required to use what they did have. Your idea is certainly a good idea. Thanks for telling me and all the other viewers that read these comments. Make sure to subscribe!
Thanks Buddy, your video helped fast track my leak repair. Godamn dodge shit, gotta love it!
Thanks Donald. Appreciate the comment. Make sure to subscribe.
Correct issue of the leak. But I'm not sure I'd use silicone on a piece that has to be taken apart periodically.
Awesome vid!! Great presentation and very informative. You saved me a bunch of headaches!! You just earned a new sub 😜
Ralph Bucci Much appreciated Ralph! Glad that the video was helpful. Thanks again
I have a 2006 f150 and I caught the leak early. I bought an LED light so I don't have to worry about bulb replacement. I then used clear silicone on the gasket and all around the light and smoothed it out. The big 3 needs their butt kicked having a water leak like this across the truck line with Ford, GMAC, Chevy, & Chysler
Thanks for the help. Have a great New Year!!
You could just remove the old gasket and replace with new thicker gasket from autozone to solve the problem rather than putting messy silicone on it. Easier and cleaner. No mess. If you just put silicone on it and the old gasket is still getting water to it, it’s porous so the water will go right through it. Best to just replace with new thicker gasket. Marine and auto gasket..
There are other companies online that sell the exact same foam shaped cut outs and some are in different thicknesses or you use 2. That’s another option. I have never had one leak after resealing it. Not fun to clean off if you have to replace a bulb again later on for sure.
Great vid... My 2015 RAM is leaking from the A pillar, passenger side, from clips for the handle hardware... Sunroof leak? New truck three weeks old, thanks and new subscriber!
I first noticed water from the A pillar as well. Checked the clearance lights for leaks - found none. Finally checked the 3rd brake light and found the problem. The water traveled from the brake light to the A pillar because of the angle of my driveway.
2nd Gen have that same problem. There are aftermarket brake light assemblies and a seal gasket.
Could be the satellite antenna that’s on the right corner as well
the funny part is all my friends own silverados so I figured I'd be different we'll see how long this rig stays together
They are really good trucks. I would love to upgrade from my 2007 to a 2015. But mine is paid for so it ain't happening lol
I'm sorry man but to just put rtv over the degraded gasket without even cleaning the old gasket off is just crappy work. Clean it off, replace gasket (with a better closed foam material) and then if you want to use rtv a very light skim coat on the contact side and the top (to shield the gasket from uv degrading) would be much better. Yea it takes longer, that is why I do my own work. A leak there can ruin a head liner and interior of a nice truck, it is worth spending a few extra minutes on. I have a 2005 and have replaced gasket twice before it leaked (with weatherstripping) and the truck still looks like new-no leaks.
I wished they made the seal out of rubber instead of foam or have a rubber seal around the 3rd break hole on the truck and have a seal on the light assembly so it's double sealed
i have an 09 with a leak at same corner under the xm antenna. antenna on roof is loose. what do you recommend for the antenna? If you make a video for that i will be sure to share with the 4th gen ram truck forum!
Please share with me if you can where it would be if it was not the brake light. I have sealed around the entire brake light and the window seal but it still drips down near the passenger side rear pillar. I am completely defeated and have been dealing with this for 4 weeks now. Can it be leaking some place else? I can’t imagine how it would leak through all of the sealant I put around that third brake light
I am have trouble with the head liner getting wet it’s the upper back right corner and some of the roof or the back seat. I have all ready done the third brake light and the sun roof I have put sealant around it and the cab lights are good also. Do you have any other idea where it could be coming from?
I won't know if that's where I have a small leak until the sun is up tomorrow but that didn't stop Learn to Fly from getting stuck right in the middle of my brain for tonight!
Why would fuel leak from the cap if you had a new o ring?
Are all 3 bulbs 921?
Hey there.
2014 ram 1500. dealer has warrantied 3 new.3rd break lights. all leak with heavy rain or car wash. I recommended using a.sealent or as seen in other videos a thicker weather stripping. my head liner is stained ( bit of a piss off) to replace it dealer would have to remove windshield so I passed. my concern is this.... I'm worried that the water that leaks into the rear is sitting in there and not fully draining. could this cause rust. is there a way to dry out the space behind the 3rd brake light when it's removed?
thanks for the great information
The strange thing is that Chrysler recommends resealing it....not replacing the assembly. The staining of the headliner usually can be cleaned out I have found. As far as the water.....if it gets the carpet padding soaked....it can cause mold build up. that I have found. In some cases....I recommend removing the seats/carpets and have then cleaned and dried once the original leak has been fixed. Now all this is if thats the actual cause of the leak. There may be another cause in that area such as the window seal. I recommend resealing the third brake light and then monitor the leaks. If still leaking then it needs to be checked further to see if there is another cause other then the lamp assembly. Make sure to subscribe and share the videos.
I used the bulb grease from Auto Zone do you think that will work or should I clean it off and use what you used ?
Not to sure if that wont slowly settle and move out of position over time. I would stick with the same method in the video to make sure you dont have any issues. Thanks for the question Joseph and for watching. Make sure to subscribe and check out my other videos.
what a hack way of doing it I use butyl rubber works much better a little messy
I fully agree.....that procedure I did was the recommended repair from Chrysler. I was talking to Dorman to see if they would look into making a reusable rubber seal. I too don't like to use the RTV. There had to be a better way and I hope an aftermarket company comes up with one.
A part number for an LED replacement bulb would be nice. I have a 2014 with LED taillights and would like to only do this once. Plus I'm not sure if an LED brake bulb would throw a code.
Alimonytony just lookup "canbus LED 921" on Amazon. The ones I got are from seller "AMAZENAR" for $18.99 for a 4 pack.
Thanks , helpful information.
Glad I could help John. Thanks for watching and make sure to subscribe
I will I went ahead and changed the bulbs ,with long life Sylvania so it should not be a problem for a good while.
Great idea. No leaks and no need for bulbs anytime soon. Thanks for the added input.
My 2007 has just started doing this. Since your comments say you don't like to use RTV sealant, is there anything
else you recommend using?
Well I don't like using it but have no choice. I believe it should have a rubber type seal instead of the foam that stays collapsed and doesn't expand with the housing during temp changes. For now....RTV is what I have to use
+MotorCity Mechanic Thank you for your reply. I just fixed mine with some weatherstripping.. If this doesn't work, silicone it is!
This is pure Bullshit and Chrysler should do something about this better. Because if I need to pull in Autozone and replace a bulb I cannot do this with sealant bonding it to the vehicle.. Guess I should have bought a Tundra.
can you use Ultra Black Permatex, or should I get what you were using, if so what's called and were can I get it. thanks
I believe what you have will work fine. Just don't use too much. Otherwise you will be cleaning up the excess that squeezes out once it's tightened. Thanks for watching and make sure to subscribe
I'm having the same problem with my 2012 1500. One question though will this make removal of this light in the future difficult? Say if i need to replace a bulb?
+TheJnagle It seems that they all eventually leak over time. I wish they would come out with a better seal so that it wouldn't happen and would be easy to remove in the future. You will need to use a plastic trim stick most likely in the future to remove the lamp assembly due to the sealant. Then it would be a matter of cleaning off the residue and applying more sealant when reinstalling. Its not the ideal repair in my books but is all that is offered at this time by Dodge. I know we had 4-5 in the shop last week just for that concern. I wish I had better news as far as a "correct repair" but my hands are tied at this time. I appreciate at you watching the video and for your queston
Why didn't you just replace the foam with better/ thicker material less mess
This method is what Chrysler pays for.....we have to follow their recommendations if we want to be paid for the work that we do at the dealership under warranty. Personally I would like to see a rubber seal that wont collapse like the foam does. I have tried to get some companies to make that but they arent interested.
Is this what causes my ram to have a water leak in the back corner on the headliner?
Most likely yes! Thats where I would start for sure.
If you have a sunroof, probably not. Your drain tubes are clogged, if having a sunroof. Effing Dodge.
My 2019 ram limited has both rear corner water stains in the headliner. I though it might me my pano roof or back window or 3rd brake light. 3rd brake light seems like the most common.
Can you remove the third brake light afterwards or is it stuck?
It is still removable but takes a but more effort to remove. Another viewer....just below this comment mentioned using a non hardening sealant. That sounds like the best method in the end. Its not what Chrysler allows us to use under warranty but make since to use in the end. It would be my first choice knowing what I know now and the sealant in the video would be my second. In the end it can still be removed with both. One easier then the other of course. Thanks for the question and for watching. Make sure to subscribe!
Why use an RTV sealant instead of a replacement after market weather strip?
Isn't that RTV going to make things a mess and have to clean and reapply it if you have to replace those light bulbs?
I havent seen a seal yet that works well with this set up. Some have mentioned electricians putty. Havent tried it myself. As far as using the RTV....its the preferred method per Chrysler. I rather use something a bit more pliable but havent found anything that doesnt try to run when heated up in the summer temps. The RTV seals the best but yes when you do need to eventually replace the bulb you will need to clean the old RTV off. One thing is for sure that if done right....you wount get any costly water leaks or mold so you have to weigh your options. Personally I rather make sure no leak and so far I havent found a company or seal that works well enough.
www.amazon.com/Frost-King-R538H-Sponge-16-Inch/dp/B000EU65WS/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1515862716&sr=1-1&keywords=Frost+King+R538H
www.ramforumz.com/showthread.php?t=223933
This is a much better solution. And from reports, it works well.. Quite a number of videos as well.
MotorCity Mechanic
Thanks for the reply.
I had my 1500 taken in once and had the gasket replaced under warranty but it recently started leaking again and when I went to take the lens off, the brake light bulb was completely blown out grey/white from the water contamination but I noticed with the previous fix all the dealership did was apply another gasket on top of the original leaking gasket.
I think that was hecka lazy they couldn't start with a clean surface to mount the new gasket.
I put in a new universal foam gasket from AutoZone and I'm crossing my fingers that does the trick.
I'll find out when it rains again.
Yeah the factory seal getting replaced again just means it will happen again and double sealing it is just lazy as you mentioned. The RTV isnt the best method but certainly better then those two items. Hopefully it does well for you. Thanks again for the comment.
I'm wondering if i have that leak on my truck. It says right brake light out on my EVIC... but it's my 3rd brake light. I'm not sure if those are leds. Could water be the issue?.
so your a Chrysler tech my rear end has been making noises after the rear axle recall do u think its a lubricant issue?
I assume your speaking of the left axle recall. I don't think it's a lubrication issue unless the tech did something wrong. If the noise wasn't there before then I would pay them a visit again. I haven't had any issues with the one I have done but I know some techs I wouldn't let touch my truck lol. Anything is possible.
What happens when you need to change a bulb.
Its going to suck having to clean all that off for sure. Not my procedure....just passing on the info. Luckily since then companies sell the foam seal. I actually have one I need to do a video on soon to show another method.
Where was the leak? Above the middle seat? My leak is behind the driver side back corner. No where else.
Not a great fix, so a bulb goes out I've gotta take it off and scrape it off and re-RVT it when it happens. Better weatherseal is the way to go. The stock stuff is basically a sponge. Get some weatherseal and reseal it for $6. Problem solved.
+MotorCity Mechanic The forums are having a better solution to sealing the light.
Cool....send me a link so that I can check it out. The procedure in the video is the Chrysler recommend repair method....love to see something different myself other then the RTV
th-cam.com/video/7wdLv0SWoAs/w-d-xo.html This is the most popular video.
Cool......I like that alternative. Thanks for the link and info Julian!
Did they fix this issue in the 2018 ram 2500
I havent seen one leak in a long time and not one on a 2018 as of yet. Thanks for asking and for watching. Make sure to subscribe.
MotorCity Mechanic I subscribe. Love the videos keep them up
crap I own a 16 ram Laramie limited I guess I'm for it then again I am a tech
Sometimes I have to do what they say. I am hoping for a better fix soon. It's 2016 and you would think a water leak wouldn't be an issue.....especially when it's been happening for years.
hello excuse me how can i install 3 brake stop my ram havent i buy a new in dodge i install but dont on
Morning.....are you saying that you purchases a truck that didnt come with the 3rd brake light and now your wanting to install a third brake light assembly?