I really like that the ultimate universe so far doesn’t feel edgy or particularly angsty. The setting feels more dark and hostile but the hero’s so far are still kind and the art is more violent then it is dark.
Im hype for this and Green Lantern based on the creative teams! Love Lemire's work. Got to step it up on my Absolute DC videos they were you are putting them together.
Yea, I’d love to hear your thoughts on everything coming up. Did you get to hear any of it firsthand at NYCC? That would be some cool additional perspective to hear about in a video
Its actually pretty understandable why its Wally rather than Barry a big part of the reason Wally arguably surpassed and became an equal was because of Barrys mentorship and he and Iris pretty much raised him and take away his entire support system hes at a disadvantage with no one to help guide him
@@WhatsUpWOLF Honestly man the sooner we forget about Ezra Millers Version of Barry Allen the better that shouldn't be The Flash's film legacy but man just cause the movie was a glorified PS2 Cutscene mess doesnt mean the character gotta be sidelined😂
@@Kalel2.0 The weird thing to me was that I thought Ezra Miller played an interesting Flash, it just didn't seem like Barry Allen or Wally West, it was like they made up a new guy and just called him Barry
@@baki484 You and be both man I love Barry and dont wanna see my boy getting benched but I'm pretty sure it's not gonna last and I genuinely think he and Wally(Love the guy to bits too) can co exist and have their own titles I mean we have multiple Green Lanterns that co exist well we can definitely more than 1 Flash plus it caters to both sides of the fanbase
Personally, I like this series the most. The Speed force these days is just a McGiffin or Dues Ax Machina. It’s so vaguely defined that writers use it to hand-wave whatever they’re doing. After a while it get hard to take a Flash story seriously. Also, Jeff did “The New 52 Animal Man”. Which was a glorious horror story.
@@WhatsUpWOLF Yeah, I’m interested in a (original) Ultimate Spider-Man inspired horror story. Definitely feels like the story going be more experimental. I just hope they don’t screw this Flash over. (Like they did with Barry in ‘Flashpoint’ and Wally in ‘Heroes in Crisis’.)
I'm excited to see where this goes, but I'll literally take anything that doesn't butcher my boy. I do like the fact that the subversion of wally's character is his dad not being a deadbeat which is probably why barry isn't his mentor in this universe.
Was that bearded man confirmed to be his dad? I theorised it could be his grandfather or maybe a version of Barry that isn't superpowered but still cares for Wally.
@WhatsUpWOLF maybe I mean they was over using injustice batman and nothing interesting was really happening so I'm kinda glad they did this. I might be wrong but I feel like dark metal was there last big successful comic where most fans was pleased before they brought it back for whatever reason. Again I might be wrong I think titians had some good stuff going on for awhile
Very excited to see what happens in absolute... Considering the condition of hope really having a hard go in this universe. I can see these heroes who are supposed to come together and form The League not doing that... Which is... Its like Xavier not forming the X-Men! Who do these Differently-abled people confide in? Because, you know the rarities of the world are coveted and captured or hunted down and destroyed. yeah
I’d be surprised if Snyder didn’t have them all team up at some point, but I hope it’s not too soon. They really need to build up the individual characters and the universe first. If it’s still around in five years (🤞) then they should have a team.
I think flash will be one of the "Rogues" they give me a fantastic 4 vibe with the cold design that could be fun also i would like absolute fkash to just be a metahuman with superspeed no speed force to needlessly complicate rhe plot
That would be really cool. I really don’t feel like the Speed Force is a big loss. Complicated the plot and led to too many Flashes that diluted the brand. Nothing against the other speedsters, I just hope the AU keeps it at one.
That could be a fun intepretation of rogues, especially since they love wally in the main continuity either way, so making them be a part of same superhero team would be fire.
@@WhatsUpWOLF In actually glad he has no connection to speed force as well, tired of flash stories constantly being multiversal stories. Best Flash stories imo are those that have to do with the street lvl, not multiversal shenaningas.
That might be part of it, I think the main thing is that the absolute universe is what’s popping. At least with whatever TH-cam has decided my audience is, so when I talk about other stuff I just have to expect that it won’t go off 🤷
@@eyesore21 Rat tails were the thing when I was a kid. You know what that is? Shave off everything on the sides and just leave a little rat tail of hair in the back. I never had one, but maybe now is the right time to bring it back.
@@WhatsUpWOLF Since this is different than main continuity where they were actually good guys if you think abt it, anti hero/anti villain type characters, then i think theres a good chance they're like bounty hunter type team and actually more evil.
@@WhatsUpWOLF They do but they give me some bounty hunter/suicide squad vibes, maybe they work for government and they want them to get wally cuz of his powers? Still could be anti heroes, kinda like venom was in ultimate spider man. We shall see i suppose, the one that has me hyped most is absolute GL, GL cuz Hal is my fav and Hal is also meant to be a main character along with Jo, meaning that he'd have just as much of screen time!
@WhatsUpWOLF Trickster was my thought, also appears to be a female version of the character. Curious to see the take on the Rogues, they've always been some of my favorites!
@@scifiguy9000 In terms of looks, I think that's actually the closest. I dismissed him original because his triple jointed powers seemed to weird, but maybe they could make him work. But as a her this time probably. Looking closer it definitely looks like a woman.
I have cool ideas for this flash Maybe he’s a teen that’s addicted to this energy drink that grants him super speed but only until the effects of the drink wear off. It could be like a story about the dangers of power and addiction, displaying the lengths people will go to, to maintain that power or keep their high going Another one I have is, maybe the speed force in this universe rapidly ages Wally every time he uses it. This could be something unique to this universe, because there’s no sliding timescales and you can experiment with linear story telling here. This could explore the more selfless aspect of being a hero, and demonstrate the sacrifice it takes to d the right thing.
@@beardupbeerdown7355 None of 'em popped out fully grown, so I don't think age would be an excuse not to use one or the other. They could have written any of them as a teen. Do you wish they'd used Jay instead? I feel like Wally is the most popular at the moment. (Then again, maybe not thanks to the CW. But in comics anyway.)
Not impressed with the Absolute universe. Where is Batman hiding this tank when he is not using it? Darkseid needed his own Earth 3 universe… there was already an earth 3 universe. Ooo… Wonder Woman has a sword almost as big as herself when she is already as powerful as Superman. Why lord? Why? Oh… the one thing DC gets is big, flash and shock will sell (at first). They don’t get that consistently good strorytelling grows and strengthens a committed audience.
1. we haven't seen how the batmobile is introduced, so complaining about it before knowing what it's used for in the issue is silly. 2. The main DC universe is cut off from the multiverse as a result of Absolute Power, which causes Darkseid to feel a need to create his own universe. 3. Circe gave her her sword and other gear to prepare her to fight for the outside world. A lot of these issues that you're bringing up are ones that were already addressed in their stories or are stuff that are in issues that aren't released yet. Listen, I get being burnt out or hesitant towards the universe; but it's kinda foolish to rant about stuff that you seemingly don't know about. That's just my two cents tho
@ I hear you; however, DC has a pattern over the last decade or so of starting out with shock & awe (new 52, the metals, Reborn, etc…), then dropping the ball. Sometimes very hard (like please forget we introduced these things). So please, understand where my point originates o. This latest “big thing”
@@superioridiot3846 and we all have our two cents. You are more open and giving to the potential. DC has taken me down that road one too many times for me to offer that. A lot coukd be explained by Bruce’s wealth, so it is naturally for any reader to now ask questions as I have. DC has time to answer. As for rationalizing/understnding Darkseid’s motives… not my thing. Evil is.
I really like that the ultimate universe so far doesn’t feel edgy or particularly angsty. The setting feels more dark and hostile but the hero’s so far are still kind and the art is more violent then it is dark.
I've only read volume 1 of spider-man so far but I loved it
The main speed force in the absolute universe is the negative speed force. It's why absolute Wally has red lightning and he can't control it
That would open up some crazy possibilities 🤔 I like it!
And it makes him move super slow in stead of fast.
@ 😂😂😂
@@TheCelticTiger32thays not how that works. I know ita a joke but that's lame imo
@@milkmanman I wasn’t joking
Yes, it’s been confirmed that Wally will be in his mid teens for this series. So either 15 or 16
15 or 16 makes sense based on the art, definitely not 13.
So relatable to me? Hell yeah 😭.
He's already my favorite flash too 🔥
Im hype for this and Green Lantern based on the creative teams! Love Lemire's work. Got to step it up on my Absolute DC videos they were you are putting them together.
Yea, I’d love to hear your thoughts on everything coming up. Did you get to hear any of it firsthand at NYCC? That would be some cool additional perspective to hear about in a video
Its actually pretty understandable why its Wally rather than Barry a big part of the reason Wally arguably surpassed and became an equal was because of Barrys mentorship and he and Iris pretty much raised him and take away his entire support system hes at a disadvantage with no one to help guide him
DC may also need a palate cleanser after Ezra Miller 😆 ah but that makes me sad... I had high hopes for him
@@WhatsUpWOLF Honestly man the sooner we forget about Ezra Millers Version of Barry Allen the better that shouldn't be The Flash's film legacy but man just cause the movie was a glorified PS2 Cutscene mess doesnt mean the character gotta be sidelined😂
I'm just hoping that Barry gets his powers back in the main universe. Also Ezra Miller poorly depicted Barry.
@@Kalel2.0 The weird thing to me was that I thought Ezra Miller played an interesting Flash, it just didn't seem like Barry Allen or Wally West, it was like they made up a new guy and just called him Barry
@@baki484 You and be both man I love Barry and dont wanna see my boy getting benched but I'm pretty sure it's not gonna last and I genuinely think he and Wally(Love the guy to bits too) can co exist and have their own titles I mean we have multiple Green Lanterns that co exist well we can definitely more than 1 Flash plus it caters to both sides of the fanbase
Personally, I like this series the most. The Speed force these days is just a McGiffin or Dues Ax Machina. It’s so vaguely defined that writers use it to hand-wave whatever they’re doing. After a while it get hard to take a Flash story seriously. Also, Jeff did “The New 52 Animal Man”. Which was a glorious horror story.
If the tone is what I’m expecting it could end up being my favorite
@@WhatsUpWOLF Yeah, I’m interested in a (original) Ultimate Spider-Man inspired horror story. Definitely feels like the story going be more experimental. I just hope they don’t screw this Flash over. (Like they did with Barry in ‘Flashpoint’ and Wally in ‘Heroes in Crisis’.)
@ wouldn’t surprise me. Absolute Martian Manhunter looks REAL experimental
Why are people so worried about his haircut???
What else are they gonna do? Go to work? 😂😂
I'm excited to see where this goes, but I'll literally take anything that doesn't butcher my boy. I do like the fact that the subversion of wally's character is his dad not being a deadbeat which is probably why barry isn't his mentor in this universe.
Sometimes the Absolute Universe comes with some perks. Batman got lucky too.
Was that bearded man confirmed to be his dad? I theorised it could be his grandfather or maybe a version of Barry that isn't superpowered but still cares for Wally.
I wonder if DC did Absolute universe after seeing how successful the Ultimate Universe in Marvel is going
I have to believe that was a big factor.
Probably, but kinda crazy that they didn't do this when Marvel di ultimate universe the first time
@@cngotham4111 maybe they didn’t realize how big it would be… or maybe they thought they didn’t want to be copycats and now they’re desperate 😂
@WhatsUpWOLF maybe I mean they was over using injustice batman and nothing interesting was really happening so I'm kinda glad they did this. I might be wrong but I feel like dark metal was there last big successful comic where most fans was pleased before they brought it back for whatever reason. Again I might be wrong I think titians had some good stuff going on for awhile
@ that’s what it seemed like to me
Very excited to see what happens in absolute...
Considering the condition of hope really having a hard go in this universe. I can see these heroes who are supposed to come together and form The League not doing that... Which is... Its like Xavier not forming the X-Men! Who do these Differently-abled people confide in? Because, you know the rarities of the world are coveted and captured or hunted down and destroyed.
yeah
I’d be surprised if Snyder didn’t have them all team up at some point, but I hope it’s not too soon. They really need to build up the individual characters and the universe first. If it’s still around in five years (🤞) then they should have a team.
I think flash will be one of the "Rogues" they give me a fantastic 4 vibe with the cold design that could be fun also i would like absolute fkash to just be a metahuman with superspeed no speed force to needlessly complicate rhe plot
That would be really cool. I really don’t feel like the Speed Force is a big loss. Complicated the plot and led to too many Flashes that diluted the brand.
Nothing against the other speedsters, I just hope the AU keeps it at one.
That could be a fun intepretation of rogues, especially since they love wally in the main continuity either way, so making them be a part of same superhero team would be fire.
@@WhatsUpWOLF In actually glad he has no connection to speed force as well, tired of flash stories constantly being multiversal stories.
Best Flash stories imo are those that have to do with the street lvl, not multiversal shenaningas.
@ I think this one will be a lot like that based on what they’re saying so far 🤞
Damn, i guess the thumbnail change really worked huh? 😅
That might be part of it, I think the main thing is that the absolute universe is what’s popping. At least with whatever TH-cam has decided my audience is, so when I talk about other stuff I just have to expect that it won’t go off 🤷
I wonder if Barry is going to become his reverse flash if he somehow learns about the other Universe
That would make a lot of sense!
Wally has that Jay Jo Haircut (Wind Breaker Korean Manhwa)
@@Appocollege that’s the one!
His cut is cool
@@eyesore21 yea I don’t understand the hate. Looks fine to me. Then again, I go to great clips
@ He has a mullet thing. Idk what it is, but looks like a teenager to me lol
@@eyesore21 Rat tails were the thing when I was a kid. You know what that is? Shave off everything on the sides and just leave a little rat tail of hair in the back. I never had one, but maybe now is the right time to bring it back.
Aint no way you released this video just after we got an official look on the rogues from this series 😭
Edit: NVM lol
Do you think they’re actually going to be bad guys?
@@WhatsUpWOLF Since this is different than main continuity where they were actually good guys if you think abt it, anti hero/anti villain type characters, then i think theres a good chance they're like bounty hunter type team and actually more evil.
@@Temple277 but they look so friendly
@@WhatsUpWOLF They do but they give me some bounty hunter/suicide squad vibes, maybe they work for government and they want them to get wally cuz of his powers?
Still could be anti heroes, kinda like venom was in ultimate spider man.
We shall see i suppose, the one that has me hyped most is absolute GL, GL cuz Hal is my fav and Hal is also meant to be a main character along with Jo, meaning that he'd have just as much of screen time!
Who do you think the two villains with Cold and Boomer are? Maybe Trickster (woth the big mask) and Golden Glider with the braids and hover boots?
Golden Glider seems like a safe bet, but that weird orange head/mask I can't figure out. Maybe a Trickster invention or something.
@WhatsUpWOLF Trickster was my thought, also appears to be a female version of the character. Curious to see the take on the Rogues, they've always been some of my favorites!
@ I have high hopes!
@@WhatsUpWOLF Maybe it's Rag-Dool. (an older Flash foe that fought Jay)
@@scifiguy9000 In terms of looks, I think that's actually the closest. I dismissed him original because his triple jointed powers seemed to weird, but maybe they could make him work. But as a her this time probably. Looking closer it definitely looks like a woman.
I have cool ideas for this flash
Maybe he’s a teen that’s addicted to this energy drink that grants him super speed but only until the effects of the drink wear off. It could be like a story about the dangers of power and addiction, displaying the lengths people will go to, to maintain that power or keep their high going
Another one I have is, maybe the speed force in this universe rapidly ages Wally every time he uses it. This could be something unique to this universe, because there’s no sliding timescales and you can experiment with linear story telling here. This could explore the more selfless aspect of being a hero, and demonstrate the sacrifice it takes to d the right thing.
That would be interesting. So far it doesn’t seem like they’re getting that deep with it, but maybe that will change with Absolute Superman
The art of the dreaming is my favourite
I haven’t read it. It seems like the art is similar but a little… dreamier? For lack of a better word.
What if his zoom is Barry 🫨
🤯
That would equal the surprise for the Absolute Batman #1 villain
Here's another what if:
What if Zoom is an evil future Wally that battles the present younger Wally?
@@scifiguy9000 ouuuuuuu
@@scifiguy9000 Man these are the kind of convos we need in the Discord!
Bro fist words of the video and I already feel the disrespect towards my boy Jay Garrick
No disrespect to the OG! Jeff Lemire's going to be writing him too in JSA
@@WhatsUpWOLFEarth 2 Jay Garrick wasn't an adult either
@@beardupbeerdown7355 None of 'em popped out fully grown, so I don't think age would be an excuse not to use one or the other. They could have written any of them as a teen. Do you wish they'd used Jay instead? I feel like Wally is the most popular at the moment. (Then again, maybe not thanks to the CW. But in comics anyway.)
@WhatsUpWolf Barry Allen is the most popular, not Wally West.
@@trevturp6891 I think he gets a boost from the show and movies, but in comics it seems like Wally has a bigger following right now
Is that Omni Man up front?
You know it does look a lot like him now that you mention it... they really took that Invincible influence to the limit 😄
Not impressed with the Absolute universe. Where is Batman hiding this tank when he is not using it? Darkseid needed his own Earth 3 universe… there was already an earth 3 universe. Ooo… Wonder Woman has a sword almost as big as herself when she is already as powerful as Superman. Why lord? Why? Oh… the one thing DC gets is big, flash and shock will sell (at first). They don’t get that consistently good strorytelling grows and strengthens a committed audience.
Did you read Absolute Batman? The storytelling has been good (so far). WW wasn’t as strong but I’m hoping it picks up in the next issue.
1. we haven't seen how the batmobile is introduced, so complaining about it before knowing what it's used for in the issue is silly.
2. The main DC universe is cut off from the multiverse as a result of Absolute Power, which causes Darkseid to feel a need to create his own universe.
3. Circe gave her her sword and other gear to prepare her to fight for the outside world.
A lot of these issues that you're bringing up are ones that were already addressed in their stories or are stuff that are in issues that aren't released yet. Listen, I get being burnt out or hesitant towards the universe; but it's kinda foolish to rant about stuff that you seemingly don't know about. That's just my two cents tho
@ I’ve learned to give everything a chance because a lot of times they can surprise you without how they pull it off
@ I hear you; however, DC has a pattern over the last decade or so of starting out with shock & awe (new 52, the metals, Reborn, etc…), then dropping the ball. Sometimes very hard (like please forget we introduced these things). So please, understand where my point originates o. This latest “big thing”
@@superioridiot3846 and we all have our two cents. You are more open and giving to the potential. DC has taken me down that road one too many times for me to offer that. A lot coukd be explained by Bruce’s wealth, so it is naturally for any reader to now ask questions as I have. DC has time to answer. As for rationalizing/understnding Darkseid’s motives… not my thing. Evil is.