UPDATE: Toyota has confirmed to us that the US-spec 2024 Land Cruiser does NOT have Off-Road Trail Turn assist. Based on our inquiry they are going to remove the feature from all product sheets (it’s currently listed as a feature on their website.)
I actually like this trim, as I'm not into all of the extra crap that they put in new vehicles. That's why I drive a Tacoma SR5 4x4. With that said, the price is insane. If I'm buying the base trim, I want the price to reflect that. This is $40k to $45k vehicle tops.
@@pankajnalavde Would you buy the 1958 with square headlamps, faux electronic leather seats, sunroof, 2.8L turbo diesel for 80k? Thats the price where i live... EDIT: also no rear locker, no Bliss, only rear camera
Some points as an owner of 2007 Land Cruiser Prado. 1. Every motorized function is prone to failure. My seat adjustments work reliably. My manual tail gate works reliably (mine opens sideways and is holding the spare wheel). If they were motorized, I'd expect at least 2 replacements by now. 2. Fabric seats last much longer compared to leather seats + make much more sense in hot climates. 3. To make plastics feel good, OEMs tend to add layers of velvety synthetic materials that degrade over time, especially in hot climates. Simple plastics = durable plastics.
too bad this costs as much as a GX470 that came loaded with better features and higher reliability with a proven platform. This is just a rebadged 4runner with the LC nameplate stamped on. It's very sad to see as a FJ80, 22re and tacoma owner. Toyota has lost their touch
@Calembo, I don't think your assumptions are correct. The GX470 is a rebranded Toyota Land Cruiser Prado for the US market. This Land Cruiser is a direct successor of the Prado 150, not of the 4runner.
@@nomad27 you might be correct actually. At first I thought the same as you but all of this marketing of the Landcruiser and the 6th gen 4Runner alongside the Gx550 using the same dimensions and chassis kind of made me think otherwise.
Ryan, We asked for the Prado and gosh darn it, Toyota sent it to us. For those who have reached a certain stature, the extra headroom (compared to to he 4Runner) will be appreciated. Many of us are still holding out hope the smaller, more affordable Land Cruiser FJ will meet US and Canadian standards. 🤞🤞
I see a lot of people being mad it’s the Prado, but if anything the 250 harkens back to the original Land Cruisers and not the luxury wagons they branched into
@@MaddNomad1015 People just like to rant. This model is only 3 inches shorter than the 300 Series and built on the same wheelbase. The only useful feature offered on some 300 models which we miss on our Prado is the locking front differential. I will say that Toyota created a rod for their own backs with the cheap door trim on the 1958. They cannot be saving more than $100 per unit with this silly cost cutting. Toyota was only selling 2,000 of the 'full-size' Land Cruisers annually prior to its discontinuation. The same people who complain about this one complained that the 200 Series was too expensive.
@@rightlanehog3151 Well that front locker and the gr sport version. The LC 300 series GR sport makes anybody scared, although the tundra trd pro grill looks very menacing too, but not for the same reason
People in the US love to complain about the lack of features on Toyota and others. I'm not sure they'll be able to handle the 70 series because of how basic utilitarian it is. Soon they'll want leather seats in them, a bigger table sized screen on the dash etc. They'll forget the main reason why the 70s series exists is to be basic yet rugged and reliable
It's mind blowing how just 4-5 years ago $60k was the price for a high end, nicely optioned BMW or Range Rover. Now $60k is base model prices for toyotas. Great video as always
I'm coming around on the Land Cruiser, but the 1958 cheaps out in too many areas for a $50K+ vehicle. I really can't wait for you to get your First Edition and put some proper tires on it. I'm very curious what mileage looks like with A/T tires both on and off road.
As always thanks Ryan. I worked a project in Egypt from 1989 till 1992. I loved my company vehicle a 1989 LAND CRUISER ! Wow it was good in the desert and in downtown Cairo.
I don't see why someone would choose this over the new 2025 4Runner which is essentially the same vehicle underneath with a lot more options available at a lower price point. Great review as always! I love the off road tests
They are going to ask for $75k for the 4runner too. All the manufacturers got together at a table, Ford, Chevy, Dodge, Toyota, Lexus and said, "We can all raise our price per feature together and profit," then they all nodded, forged golden rings, and committed.
@@oni-one574 and we suckers go for it and buy. I urge all to boycott buying this vehicle and others like it. That will drive the price down. Otherwise, you are screwing the rest of us prudent buyers!
I actually love the hard plastics a few are complaining about. When I was 12 in 1989 we had a 1987 Toyota SR5 4x4 pickup and my dads best friend had a 88 4Runner. These remind me of those vehicles so much and they were very good quality lasting for years. I feel like there are multiple throwbacks.
The local dealer with lower markups has 7K USD tacked on to the 1958 on the lot. The larger dealer in town, notorious for markups, just sold a first edition with a 12K markup. and has listed inbound Land Cruiser trims marked up 8K USD. Don't pay markup, MSRP is high enough.
The starting price for LC250 in Japan is less than 40K USD. Nobody mentions that JPY has dropped 40%+ value against USD while this vehicle is Made in Japan. BTW, the hitch diaper really needs more work. It’s inconvenient to open and close, and your review shows it also affects leaving angle.
Hearing consumers from other markets complain about pricing really puts some things into perspective. For example, here in the Caribbean (Trinidad and Tobago to be specific which falls under the Latin American market), we pay just over 41k USD for a corolla (non hybrid) from the dealership, not even in comparable full US specification. A Land Cruiser Prado (300) is currently almost 180k USD for comparison.
Man, Toyota going crazy with the base trim LC price. 56K? I would’ve expected the price at high 40k. I’m better off buying the current 4Runner pro for mid 50K price.
Even at $40k it’s expensive for what this is. My 02 Taco top trim was $24k new and this is almost the same vehicle. I would pay $35k for something like this.
4Runner pro is still part time 4wd I believe To get the exact setup as this (full time 4wd + i-force max setup), you'd have to go for either the option on the Limited i-force max or the platinum trim which would probably put it on parity in price (or even higher due to the hype of it being a '4Runner' to the general public and getting markups)
This review is so good as the focus is on the vehicle, not the tech and interior. The problem with fancy interiors is in 5 years they look outdated. This while not sexy on the inside will age very well
Really wanted one of these, but the price point killed it. I had a brand new '18 JL Wrangler Unlimited for $30k - nice and simple platform, but the build quality was sketchy at best. Was holding out, hoping the base LC could come in at maybe upper $40s, but... no luck. Surprised myself and wound up going with a '24 Outback Wilderness (they're already throwing in significant discounts and super cheap loans). Have to give up a little bit of terrain, but for about 94% of what I do, it handles it very well, plus way more comfortable and better appointed. Shame, though, I love the design of that new base LC. (The 4Runner never really did anything for me.)
In literally exactly the same boat. I have a '23 OBW and while I love the new LC, the price in comparison is just...silly. Especially once you get away from the base model and start wanting a cabin that is even comparable in quality to the OBW with Softex/Startex, better interior plastics, etc. It's bizarre to be paying $60k (absolute minimum, if you can even find one - and this is before the dealerships get ahold of you) for a base model with dopey all season tires and no roof rails. If this absolute base spec came in closer to $50k I think it would be a home run.
@@Jeepingshort like I said, it goes to about 94% of the off road spots I took my Wrangler to just fine. Just not great for deep ruts or steep rock climbs... (hard to do a slow, steady crawl with AWD)
Really wanted a Toyota. Either this or the new 4 Runner. But finally decided both are overkill for my use AND way WAY overpriced! Wound up buying a ‘24 Outback Wilderness. WAY more bang for the buck and everything I need. Could not be happier.
Very nice review about a very nice truck. 👍🏾 But the First Edition, with a few selected options, goes close to 100K, in Canadian dollars. It is insane.
Last year my Wife and I bought a 23’ Toyota Sequoia TRD Off-Road! We thought we more than overspent at 71.5k…. We got it in “Lunar Rock” with every single offered option, it feels like a steal now…. The sad reality is that it isn’t even something to feel proud of. Toyota needs to do much better with the product they’re putting out to the consumer! The new 4Runner is beyond overpriced along with this Land Cruiser. The 1st things we did were 35’ tires along with a leveling kit and a roof rack! The vehicle is beyond capable when you have the necessary clearance! After seeing the review you did on it last year in that snow, you sold us on it! Love the reviews, it makes a huge difference for us when we’re trying to weigh pro’s/con’s for what we look for! 🤙🏽🙏🏽
Sequoia interior is a huge fail. Bad luggage area that is too high, third row that is unusable, even second row compromised. That Sequioa is really compromised.
the sequoia is huge failure , lol price dropping monthly now! its horrible on gaz, huge car with no interior space, its fucking terrible, 71.5k for that you got hosed! 🤣🤣
No MTS? I get the smaller screen, maybe. But no MTS is just being lazy. Actually the hard plastics and smaller screen is just being greedy at these prices.
The Land Cruiser has come a long way since your great review of the 2021 LC HE in the snow. Just not in the right direction! I still go back to the video whenever I want to remember how to use all the options that came with mine!
Right in the target market for this vehicle that Toyota is going after and can comfortably afford this, but have to feel there's value. The 1958 is 10k to 7k overpriced and that's being generous. The interior is appropriate for a basic no frill offroader like those of old but the price is nuts. This is the same price as a Ranger Raptor!!
I just bought this exact model and it is great. I’ve had Jeep Rubicons, trail hawks, and older Wranglers. I did put Falcon tires on it, I think it will go anywhere my Rubicon would go, but not rock crawling. I’m beyond that, too old.
While true I don't think anyone would complain about having more choices would they? I'm sure they'd rather you compare a 4Runner to the Land Cruiser which would have them end up buying a Toyota product in the end anyways vs another brand; there'd seem to be an SUV / crossover for any use case now
Agree. It's a bit weird from my point of view. I'm thinking of my self as a consumer going into the dealership, "All SUVs are basically the same, they're all the same price, they get all the similar MPG. Why?"
@@michaeljenks6259 strangely when most things are the same, folks start the look at the differences more. after some research they probably get to the drive train and engine differences etc
Wondering what drive mode you were in to get the 22MPG. Just got my Land Cruiser (Land Cruiser trim) and although I only have 400 miles on it.. it’s only averaging 16.5 MPG. I haven’t even tried Sport mode yet 😵💫
Awesome! Your review here is more information on things I find helpful to know. Details matter. The on road driver assistance features you did not like, that would be a big selling point for me right now. Just did a recent drive up to Mount Vernon from the Algona area and it was awful. 167 morning commute was about normal. But 405 was a disaster. Wanted so bad to use my adaptive cruise control on my Charger, but alas, things were too slow for even it to adjust too. IF my 2018 4R TRD OR had that feature, it would up the game for me on the longer road trips. Wound up taking I5 all the way back for the return as it has been a better experience. The capabilities of this vehicle and the tech. in it, ALMOST make the hefty price tag and the fact it does not have a V6 option worth considering. Thanks Ryan!
Ryan could you take 22 or 23 GX460 without MTS for exactly the same test drive just to compare ? Are they on par with each other or either one have any differences in taking obstacles.
10k more for a gx550 overtrail seems like an absolute no brainer to me, with the only downside being gas mileage. Still love to look at the LC though, itll be excellent at 40k used
Don’t come at me with a bunch of Toyota fan-boy that turbos are so reliable, different than they used to be, it’s the future. Etc. My comment is I want to wait and see how the turbo holds up over time. It’s another failure point. Off-road a blown turbo is a nightmare. Why not let us option just a 4-cylinder naturally aspirated and a hybrid option if we must.
Everything costs so much these days, cars, 4x4's included. How does this compare with the Jeep Willy's 4xe and also the new 4-runner. I am a bit confused on how the 4-runner differentiates itself? More crazy style? More bumps/bulges? Any chance they will have a PHEV version? Thanks for the great review.
Unfortunately prices on vehicles keep on rising into what had been the premium and before that, the luxury segment. The use of commoditized lower cost materials has increased or the special quality and innovation decreased. To get the latter, you need to be up at $110K plus, which has become the lower luxury segment. Pretty sad shifts we’ve continued to make.
A Land Cruiser you don’t need sporty luxurious and performance and nice interior exterior. The legend and the king should simple and basic for off roading a tug boat( crossing rivers and floods) a elevator (climbing mountains and valleys) Power and perfect design for exploring rugged off-roading RELIABILITY.
Isnt the torsen diff something we've had in the 4runners since the 4th gen? Which is about 20 years now? Didnt late model 3rd gens also have a version of it? Or am I getting thay wrong? I currently sit in a 08 4runner and will eventually be in the market but nothing really seems to be leagues better or a real upgrade. This drive train might be worth it due to mpgs
Most modern turbos can take regular, they just reduce power to adjust for it. I don’t know if that’s specifically the case with the LC. Always good to go with mfg recommendation when in doubt.
Hey Ryan, great video as usual. I've been looking forward to you getting your hands on a Land Cruiser for a while, so glad to see you could get ahold of one. I'm curious, do you know how large of tires it can (sanely) fit? It seems like tires are probably the main upgrade here, given the solid axle and slightly lower ground clearance. Do you know if the higher trims come with better performing tires? Also, I know we're heading into summer now, but I'm also really looking forward to you testing one of these in winter. I drive an Outback Wilderness now (partially based on your testing and comparison videos!), and while I don't do a ton of off-roading, I do live in a very snowy climate, and it has been an absolute tank in the snow and on farm roads. That said, if I'm honest, the Land Cruiser may have stolen my heart, so I'm really curious about the snow performance. Thanks again for the video!
Late reply on this one, but I now know you can fit 34s reliably on the LC with 35's getting squeeze on to some. HOWEVER, the spare tire well can only handle a 33. So you you'll need to figure out an alterante place for the spare if you go that big. For that reason, I'm sticking to 33s.
Most reviews that have been in both have said everything in the LC feels more premium and solid, even on the base trim. Less flexible materials and squeaky points.
I love the Land Cruiser and want one badly, but the trim I want is 65k…which is about the same cost as the base Lexus GX550, which, in my opinion, comes with a more desirable engine and the Lexus service department. If this thing started at 50k, I’d say for a rugged, reliable, bare bones off roader, that’d be a decent deal but at 60k, this is too close in price to the GX.
Sweet rig. Would love to have one. Even this rental car trim level. But once again, I’m in the wrong tax bracket. For years I was a truck/suv guy, but recently on a whim I changed my enthusiasm to cars. And it’s a good thing because I can’t afford most of the new trucks/suvs that are being released now anyway. Even some of the rent-a-wreck trims are outrageous now. Traded my 14 Silverado Rally Edition for a 22 Crosstrek Limited and I love it. But in the next year or so I’m planning on either a WRX TS or a GR Corolla. Both of which fully specd ( I’m making assumptions about the TS because it was just announced) go for basically the entry level price of most trucks and suvs now.
One more thing, you didn't mention the small gas tank. Total range is only an EV-like 370 miles (C/D observed, hwy mpg of 21). This is pretty poor. (Jeep Grand Cherokee V6 = 500 mile range, with higher hwy mpg.) I've read the GX has a much larger tank. I wonder if it could be installed on LC or the battery is the problem?
Great review as per usual. Thank you! Could someone kindly explain to me what a 'locking center differential' does and how that compares with a vehicle that doesnt or does have a 'locking front differential'. In some explanations I've seen it seems like its no difference between front and center...yet the G wagon has all 3. Forgive my ignorance and thank you in advance.
Good job! Finally someone mentions the torque split front to rear; default: 40-60, which is nice, but how much torque can it shift front and rear? Can it shift 100% to either end? You were also clear that it is a full-time system, so good in snow, etc. Well done. This annoying PDA, can you set it and forget it, or it always has to be switched off when starting? Also, Toyota has a lot of dinging nannies these days. Are those switch off once or at every start?
Checked one of these out today. Imo price tag should be mid 40s all day. This is a base model suv with a 4 cylinder in it. Hopefully the declining sales catches up and they start dropping prices cause this is just absurd. 60k for a base model.
I really feel like the 1958 trim is the spiritual successor to the FJ Cruiser. Plastic interior with very simple & basic controls. No more than necessary to get you places...this will be the next vehicle for me.
Most vehicles are full of plastic inside and out, so not sure why reviewers talk about plastic at all in their reviews, cars are full of plastic, and have been for decades since people whined about steel dash boards, automakers went to plastic and its been that way ever since.....people want to overpay for vehicles so its no wonder the base price of this vehicle is well over $60k because they know people are dumb enough to pay it just for the Land Cruiser stickers.
@@wildbill23c sure, but this has the same feel as 02 Taco. Yet Toyota is charging $60k for something that should be maximum $40k. Who knows if this will be reliable. This will be a pavement queen for the 90% of people , and for $10k more I am driving MDX type-s.
I’ve been following you for a while now. One thing I noticed that you don’t have is a HPF on your audio recording. I highly recommend that as the road noise and driving audio recording has a lot of low rumbling that is really annoying to hear when you have an audio system with subwoofers.
Fair point. The decision on that was to not artificially “sound deaden” the vehicles we test. If you have an accurate sound system it shouldn’t be too boom-y. Though I do understand not everyone wants to adjust their systems just for our reviews. We need to come up with a consistent process that works for all vehicles.
It’s funny how you assume I don’t have “accurate sound system” as it’s microphone calibrated and is worth more than the vehicle in this video. The issue is more “consumer grade” sound systems can’t replicate sound frequencies below 40hz and usually “artificially taper” is off lower frequencies due to speakers limitation and amplifier. Regardless I don’t have this issue with any “professional” production video or audio. You’re not the only vehicle review that I watch, only one of many. I’m just trying to help you evaluate your production of your videos. You might want to ask an audio engineer first before bashing someone advice.
@@tonydang2067I assume… because a lot of people that have gaming system speakers with accentuated bass. It’s not a personal judgement, just what I saw from a decade in the PC business.
this is perfect for overlanding no frills no BS and i like no fancy plastics when your rig will covered in dirt and dust anyways but i just need to wait for the reliability part of the new engine before i can truly pull the trigger on this
All MPG ratings should be based on hill country driving or 70-85 mph flat freeway driving. Anything youbcan get over that is a bonus, but it shows real world requirements for many at highways speed. Slow speed is typically becuase of hills, high speed when flat.
Less tech is better. That's what makes the land cruiser so rugged and iconic. Its a land cruiser its meant to be basic idk why people complaining about. Now i see alot of American really wanting the 70 series in the states but if it comes to your market you'll have more complaining because of how basic and utilitarian it is, you can't have it all!!!
You are missing an important point. Many people confuse the terms 'comment' and 'complaint' so they feel obliged to whine, weep, whinge and wail in the space below the video. 😉
Why the push for hybrid tech in off road SUV's. Eventually your going to replace those batteries at a major cost. As well, how durable is a hybrid off road? Lastly, at the price of the base model your approaching 4-Runner TRD Pro money which is something to consider.
Toyota is in a strange place... They may be letting their popularity and sales get to their heads and make them think they can price however they want release overlapping models. Its strange, im very interested in how it works out.
I agree that this is slightly over priced, but I get the feeling a lot of people in the comments haven’t priced a new vehicle in awhile. These are out of my budget, but the more I see on these, the more I kind of love them. Great review.
I really like it , it has that JDM imported Prado feeling , but I don’t know, the I force v6 engines are not doing well , would the I force 4 cylinders be the same
I do appreciate your referencing the bad looking LX grille. Toyota/Lexus design is typically busy and tacky. As for the LC, it does look good, but I am wondering why the upcoming 4Runner will be about the same size as the LC, in fact you get the 3" in length you mentioned, back. It will also be the same drivetrain, so why pay more for the LC? Well, both will be hard to find at dealers for some time, regardless.
Clearly has great off road capabilities which I would expect, and personally I don’t mind the plastic/cloth interior and manual adjust seats. After all it does have its roots in overlanding and I don’t really focus too much on luxury in that arena. But the price is just too much. I could stomach this at 40k with the top trim at 50k or 55k max or something like that. Yes this is more capable than my 23 Outback Onyx XT but it had better be - it’s a Land Cruiser. But for the price, it isn’t that much more capable, and with less economy and fewer features. Cool rig but these manufacturers need to come down to earth with the prices across the board.
Like all new vehicles, way to expensive. The economy is in the toilet and companies still just sitting their being greedy. Sad cause people are really struggling right now. All vehicles need to go back to reasonable pricing. Make things simple and keep it cheaper. What that means is less profits for the company, I get that but people just can’t afford what they need these days. On a side note, love your channel, you are one of the best to watch. Appreciate you always being so thorough on your vehicle testing. Great job and keep it up!
While true, isn't it the buyer the one with the agency here? Not to justify the prices here but the folks struggling should look at other options like the used market; nobody is forcing them to purchase new obviously
A lot of high tech features, are mandated, such as rear view camera. Infotainment is now all in LCDs which means lots of software development. People want compatibility with cell phones amend ability to get navigation projection or natively. Then there is blind side monitoring, front and rear pedestrian alerts and Nannie’s, and rear sonar. You are not going back to your dad’s era tech.
That's an expense entry level vehicle! LOL But I like it. Just curious, would a Subaru Outback Wilderness go everywhere the Landcruiser went in this video? Thanks. I really enjoy your videos and the location you do the videos.
I'll stick with my 22 4runner TRD Offroad Premium. Doesn't make sense to pay that much just to say "I have a Land Cruiser". That trim level with that interior should be 40k max.
I don’t care that it has plastic interior, but what I do care about is that it costs $55k+ for one. No vehicle over $50k should ever have plastic materials as its main panels. There should really just be one interior. All the off-road goodies should be options and the main reasons to spend more $$.
This 1958 trim should have the sway disconnect bar option too. That's an important feature for off road. Toyota is handicapping this vehicle by not offering the SBD
UPDATE: Toyota has confirmed to us that the US-spec 2024 Land Cruiser does NOT have Off-Road Trail Turn assist. Based on our inquiry they are going to remove the feature from all product sheets (it’s currently listed as a feature on their website.)
? what the hell
Man if this was like 40-45k I would be so pumped 😔
What planet do you live on?
That’s the price for Japan.
@@MichaelRichards983Starting price in Japan is 33K USD.
@@RollGlide Imagine what it costs to import, taxes and fees. Then inflation in the US and US government regulations. Like I said...
Would eat 4runner sales
I love that toyota is offering this very basic trim with the hybrid and the off road features. BUT the price is just astronomical 😳
@@LookingRoundamén
Basic trim ideas are awesome, even more basic than this, more basic powerplant 2.4 turbo. 40k tops
I actually like this trim, as I'm not into all of the extra crap that they put in new vehicles. That's why I drive a Tacoma SR5 4x4. With that said, the price is insane. If I'm buying the base trim, I want the price to reflect that. This is $40k to $45k vehicle tops.
Agreed! Sadly the new Land Cruiser requires premium fuel too.
@@jmartini2387that is sad indeed. I wish Toyota brought the diesel offered in Europe to Canada
@@pankajnalavde Would you buy the 1958 with square headlamps, faux electronic leather seats, sunroof, 2.8L turbo diesel for 80k? Thats the price where i live... EDIT: also no rear locker, no Bliss, only rear camera
40-45K Is just an arbritrary number you made up. Go test drive the car and tell me its a 40k car. That's what Rav4's sell for.
@@jmartini2387That's because it's a turbo, gasoline vehicle.
Some points as an owner of 2007 Land Cruiser Prado.
1. Every motorized function is prone to failure. My seat adjustments work reliably. My manual tail gate works reliably (mine opens sideways and is holding the spare wheel). If they were motorized, I'd expect at least 2 replacements by now.
2. Fabric seats last much longer compared to leather seats + make much more sense in hot climates.
3. To make plastics feel good, OEMs tend to add layers of velvety synthetic materials that degrade over time, especially in hot climates. Simple plastics = durable plastics.
I concur. It is a pity the side-opening tailgate is gone as is the option to mount a spare on it.
too bad this costs as much as a GX470 that came loaded with better features and higher reliability with a proven platform. This is just a rebadged 4runner with the LC nameplate stamped on. It's very sad to see as a FJ80, 22re and tacoma owner. Toyota has lost their touch
@Calembo, I don't think your assumptions are correct. The GX470 is a rebranded Toyota Land Cruiser Prado for the US market.
This Land Cruiser is a direct successor of the Prado 150, not of the 4runner.
@@nomad27 you might be correct actually. At first I thought the same as you but all of this marketing of the Landcruiser and the 6th gen 4Runner alongside the Gx550 using the same dimensions and chassis kind of made me think otherwise.
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Ryan, We asked for the Prado and gosh darn it, Toyota sent it to us. For those who have reached a certain stature, the extra headroom (compared to to he 4Runner) will be appreciated.
Many of us are still holding out hope the smaller, more affordable Land Cruiser FJ will meet US and Canadian standards. 🤞🤞
tecnically, this has the most headroom in toyota's lineup, even slightly more than the grand highlander and tundra and fj cruiser
I see a lot of people being mad it’s the Prado, but if anything the 250 harkens back to the original Land Cruisers and not the luxury wagons they branched into
@@MaddNomad1015 People just like to rant. This model is only 3 inches shorter than the 300 Series and built on the same wheelbase. The only useful feature offered on some 300 models which we miss on our Prado is the locking front differential. I will say that Toyota created a rod for their own backs with the cheap door trim on the 1958. They cannot be saving more than $100 per unit with this silly cost cutting. Toyota was only selling 2,000 of the 'full-size' Land Cruisers annually prior to its discontinuation. The same people who complain about this one complained that the 200 Series was too expensive.
@@rightlanehog3151 Well that front locker and the gr sport version. The LC 300 series GR sport makes anybody scared, although the tundra trd pro grill looks very menacing too, but not for the same reason
This is nice. People can complain all they want but I like the 70 series philosophy underlying some of the features and interior choices.
People in the US love to complain about the lack of features on Toyota and others. I'm not sure they'll be able to handle the 70 series because of how basic utilitarian it is. Soon they'll want leather seats in them, a bigger table sized screen on the dash etc. They'll forget the main reason why the 70s series exists is to be basic yet rugged and reliable
It's mind blowing how just 4-5 years ago $60k was the price for a high end, nicely optioned BMW or Range Rover. Now $60k is base model prices for toyotas. Great video as always
No it’s not. This was true 20 years ago. Not 4-5 years ago. Back in 2012 when the L405 generation Range Rover debuted it had a base price of 84K.
Do you mean 20 years ago?
I'm coming around on the Land Cruiser, but the 1958 cheaps out in too many areas for a $50K+ vehicle.
I really can't wait for you to get your First Edition and put some proper tires on it. I'm very curious what mileage looks like with A/T tires both on and off road.
As always thanks Ryan. I worked a project in Egypt from 1989 till 1992. I loved my company vehicle a 1989 LAND CRUISER ! Wow it was good in the desert and in downtown Cairo.
I don't see why someone would choose this over the new 2025 4Runner which is essentially the same vehicle underneath with a lot more options available at a lower price point. Great review as always! I love the off road tests
Price isn’t yet announced for 4Runner. I’m guessing that the trims with this powertrain will cost a similar amount.
Some reviews have described the 4runner's cabin as a bit more claustrophobic compared to the Land Cruiser, which has better headroom and roominess
Land Cruiser is always full-time 4WD. 4Runner in most trims is 2WD until you activate 4WD High or Low.
They are going to ask for $75k for the 4runner too. All the manufacturers got together at a table, Ford, Chevy, Dodge, Toyota, Lexus and said, "We can all raise our price per feature together and profit," then they all nodded, forged golden rings, and committed.
@@oni-one574 and we suckers go for it and buy. I urge all to boycott buying this vehicle and others like it. That will drive the price down. Otherwise, you are screwing the rest of us prudent buyers!
Watching this video made me glad I bought my 2023 4Runner.
Toyota has convinced themselves they can sell anything at whatever price they choose. We buyers are proving them right.
That’s what happens when there’s only one truly reliable car company in the world.
And it sucks. A reliability monopoly.
@@faheemabbas3965 How about the 100,000 vehicle recall on spinning engine bearing for the Tundra. Yep, super reliable
Toyota's Kaizen philosophy is paying off big time!
I will add that my fave repair shop guy said to me " buy a Toyota, never see me again" and he is correct. Great reliability.
We shall see. The Tacoma and tundra are dead last for reliability in their classes
I actually love the hard plastics a few are complaining about. When I was 12 in 1989 we had a 1987 Toyota SR5 4x4 pickup and my dads best friend had a 88 4Runner. These remind me of those vehicles so much and they were very good quality lasting for years. I feel like there are multiple throwbacks.
The local dealer with lower markups has 7K USD tacked on to the 1958 on the lot. The larger dealer in town, notorious for markups, just sold a first edition with a 12K markup. and has listed inbound Land Cruiser trims marked up 8K USD. Don't pay markup, MSRP is high enough.
The starting price for LC250 in Japan is less than 40K USD. Nobody mentions that JPY has dropped 40%+ value against USD while this vehicle is Made in Japan.
BTW, the hitch diaper really needs more work. It’s inconvenient to open and close, and your review shows it also affects leaving angle.
or a diesel, manual Fortuner elsewhere in SEA -- hell of a vehicle for mountain roads or lowland freeways
Hearing consumers from other markets complain about pricing really puts some things into perspective. For example, here in the Caribbean (Trinidad and Tobago to be specific which falls under the Latin American market), we pay just over 41k USD for a corolla (non hybrid) from the dealership, not even in comparable full US specification. A Land Cruiser Prado (300) is currently almost 180k USD for comparison.
Man, Toyota going crazy with the base trim LC price. 56K? I would’ve expected the price at high 40k. I’m better off buying the current 4Runner pro for mid 50K price.
Even at $40k it’s expensive for what this is. My 02 Taco top trim was $24k new and this is almost the same vehicle. I would pay $35k for something like this.
4Runner pro is still part time 4wd I believe
To get the exact setup as this (full time 4wd + i-force max setup), you'd have to go for either the option on the Limited i-force max or the platinum trim which would probably put it on parity in price (or even higher due to the hype of it being a '4Runner' to the general public and getting markups)
Just get a Passport for 40k new. Full time AWD and comfortable. Lots of room too. A few of my friends have them and love them.
2024 4,runner is 60k
@@ryanb8736yes just get a Honda passport 😂
Good review, but please bring back the camera showing gauges, car interior etc
This review is so good as the focus is on the vehicle, not the tech and interior. The problem with fancy interiors is in 5 years they look outdated. This while not sexy on the inside will age very well
Really wanted one of these, but the price point killed it. I had a brand new '18 JL Wrangler Unlimited for $30k - nice and simple platform, but the build quality was sketchy at best. Was holding out, hoping the base LC could come in at maybe upper $40s, but... no luck. Surprised myself and wound up going with a '24 Outback Wilderness (they're already throwing in significant discounts and super cheap loans). Have to give up a little bit of terrain, but for about 94% of what I do, it handles it very well, plus way more comfortable and better appointed. Shame, though, I love the design of that new base LC. (The 4Runner never really did anything for me.)
In literally exactly the same boat. I have a '23 OBW and while I love the new LC, the price in comparison is just...silly. Especially once you get away from the base model and start wanting a cabin that is even comparable in quality to the OBW with Softex/Startex, better interior plastics, etc. It's bizarre to be paying $60k (absolute minimum, if you can even find one - and this is before the dealerships get ahold of you) for a base model with dopey all season tires and no roof rails. If this absolute base spec came in closer to $50k I think it would be a home run.
Yeah if you’re not actually going off road (which could describe most 4runner owners) the Outback is a better choice
@@Jeepingshort like I said, it goes to about 94% of the off road spots I took my Wrangler to just fine. Just not great for deep ruts or steep rock climbs... (hard to do a slow, steady crawl with AWD)
Really wanted a Toyota. Either this or the new 4 Runner. But finally decided both are overkill for my use AND way WAY overpriced! Wound up buying a ‘24 Outback Wilderness. WAY more bang for the buck and everything I need. Could not be happier.
subaru are horrible
Very nice review about a very nice truck. 👍🏾 But the First Edition, with a few selected options, goes close to 100K, in Canadian dollars. It is insane.
Last year my Wife and I bought a 23’ Toyota Sequoia TRD Off-Road! We thought we more than overspent at 71.5k…. We got it in “Lunar Rock” with every single offered option, it feels like a steal now…. The sad reality is that it isn’t even something to feel proud of. Toyota needs to do much better with the product they’re putting out to the consumer! The new 4Runner is beyond overpriced along with this Land Cruiser. The 1st things we did were 35’ tires along with a leveling kit and a roof rack! The vehicle is beyond capable when you have the necessary clearance! After seeing the review you did on it last year in that snow, you sold us on it! Love the reviews, it makes a huge difference for us when we’re trying to weigh pro’s/con’s for what we look for! 🤙🏽🙏🏽
Sequoia interior is a huge fail. Bad luggage area that is too high, third row that is unusable, even second row compromised. That Sequioa is really compromised.
Sequoia is worst car in the class lol. Huge fail
the sequoia is huge failure , lol price dropping monthly now! its horrible on gaz, huge car with no interior space, its fucking terrible, 71.5k for that you got hosed! 🤣🤣
I do love the plastic interior. Reminds me of the 70 series cruiser we got in Australia
The Godfather of all the cruisers
wish we could get a LC70 troppy in the U.S.
wondering the engine reliability in long term. Recall on those tundra concerns me.
No MTS? I get the smaller screen, maybe. But no MTS is just being lazy. Actually the hard plastics and smaller screen is just being greedy at these prices.
Blame Biden and the Economy; not Toyota.
@@MichaelRichards983 my morning ritual includes blaming Biden while I drink my coffee
@@live4mac Certain things can be blamed on the Biden Admin....just how it is. Being ignorant is a choice
It looks like Toyota has a winner. I do think all vehicles with the off-road capabilities of this one should come with a front camera.
The Land Cruiser has come a long way since your great review of the 2021 LC HE in the snow. Just not in the right direction! I still go back to the video whenever I want to remember how to use all the options that came with mine!
Right in the target market for this vehicle that Toyota is going after and can comfortably afford this, but have to feel there's value. The 1958 is 10k to 7k overpriced and that's being generous. The interior is appropriate for a basic no frill offroader like those of old but the price is nuts. This is the same price as a Ranger Raptor!!
I test drove a ranger raptor, then a Land Cruiser 1958. Purchased the Cruiser, easy decision. The Ford was 🤮
Great review. Really appreciate your on-road insights, and especially your off-road tests!
Sweet. Can’t wait for a side-by-side review with the GX, and you should do one with your crosstrek!
No way in hell this thing is worth GX 460 money. Not even close.
Completely agree. Toyota is doing strange things. Although they may force an "inventory shortage" in the GX to force people to buy the LC
The GX isn't worth what they want for them either, so there's that problem.....but people love to overpay for vehicles so here we are.
welcome to 2024
Biden's America
That’s why this particular trim is 15k cheaper than a base GX
I just bought this exact model and it is great. I’ve had Jeep Rubicons, trail hawks, and older Wranglers. I did put Falcon tires on it, I think it will go anywhere my Rubicon would go, but not rock crawling. I’m beyond that, too old.
What is the recommended fuel? Can we use regular 87 octane?
91 or higher
@@chibbyylol oh no! Please return the six cylinder!
They have way too many high-priced, overlapping SUV's between Toyota and Lexus lineups.
While true I don't think anyone would complain about having more choices would they? I'm sure they'd rather you compare a 4Runner to the Land Cruiser which would have them end up buying a Toyota product in the end anyways vs another brand; there'd seem to be an SUV / crossover for any use case now
Too much choice of vehicles is bad now?
Agree. It's a bit weird from my point of view. I'm thinking of my self as a consumer going into the dealership, "All SUVs are basically the same, they're all the same price, they get all the similar MPG. Why?"
@@michaeljenks6259 strangely when most things are the same, folks start the look at the differences more. after some research they probably get to the drive train and engine differences etc
@@Itsmelmc it’s not bad for us but history says too much overlap means cars will be axed eventually because of sales.
Wondering what drive mode you were in to get the 22MPG. Just got my Land Cruiser (Land Cruiser trim) and although I only have 400 miles on it.. it’s only averaging 16.5 MPG. I haven’t even tried Sport mode yet 😵💫
Normal mode. We’re getting 18-19 mpg highway with heavy E-Load all terrain tires on the First Edition we bought.
Hoping I get there soon. 16 ain’t going to cut it. That’s worse than my 4Runner part of the reason I made the change was for the better MPG
@@cawtaba44 when I bought my First Edition it wasn’t great. Improved after 1k miles. Also, make sure to reset your MPG gauge.
@@drivingsportsgood to know! Thank you for the tip 😎
Awesome! Your review here is more information on things I find helpful to know. Details matter. The on road driver assistance features you did not like, that would be a big selling point for me right now. Just did a recent drive up to Mount Vernon from the Algona area and it was awful. 167 morning commute was about normal. But 405 was a disaster. Wanted so bad to use my adaptive cruise control on my Charger, but alas, things were too slow for even it to adjust too. IF my 2018 4R TRD OR had that feature, it would up the game for me on the longer road trips. Wound up taking I5 all the way back for the return as it has been a better experience. The capabilities of this vehicle and the tech. in it, ALMOST make the hefty price tag and the fact it does not have a V6 option worth considering. Thanks Ryan!
Ryan could you take 22 or 23 GX460 without MTS for exactly the same test drive just to compare ? Are they on par with each other or either one have any differences in taking obstacles.
10k more for a gx550 overtrail seems like an absolute no brainer to me, with the only downside being gas mileage. Still love to look at the LC though, itll be excellent at 40k used
Is the passenger seat powered??
Nope
Don’t come at me with a bunch of Toyota fan-boy that turbos are so reliable, different than they used to be, it’s the future. Etc. My comment is I want to wait and see how the turbo holds up over time. It’s another failure point. Off-road a blown turbo is a nightmare. Why not let us option just a 4-cylinder naturally aspirated and a hybrid option if we must.
Isn’t the new 4-Runner available naturally aspirated 4 cylinder, like the Tacoma? I’d imagine people who’d want that would go that route.
@@atmartensI believe they are all turbos.
@@atmartensno it’s turbo
Most mid-size trucks are turbos now. Only Raptor, Ridgeline and Gladiator have a V6 I think. It’s only a matter of time…
Anything blowing/breaking off road is a pain. The turbo will last much longer than many other parts on this LC
Everything costs so much these days, cars, 4x4's included. How does this compare with the Jeep Willy's 4xe and also the new 4-runner. I am a bit confused on how the 4-runner differentiates itself? More crazy style? More bumps/bulges? Any chance they will have a PHEV version? Thanks for the great review.
Unfortunately prices on vehicles keep on rising into what had been the premium and before that, the luxury segment. The use of commoditized lower cost materials has increased or the special quality and innovation decreased. To get the latter, you need to be up at $110K plus, which has become the lower luxury segment. Pretty sad shifts we’ve continued to make.
Great review. Does the 1958 trim have a lumbar adjustment?
Nope
@@drivingsports Yes it does on the driver side only.
$60k for this. No Toyota. No, you have to do better. At that price all consumers expect certain things that this vehicle lacks.
Not sure if you noticed, but every car costs more, for less, these days..
@@andyackerman7123 thanks Joe biden
@@andyackerman7123 not true though a loaded Titan is like 43k Toyota is way way overpriced
@@tedbell4416 lol!!!!!!
A 4banger cost this much wtf 😂
How does the power train compare to the Land Rover Defender P400?
A Land Cruiser you don’t need sporty luxurious and performance and nice interior exterior.
The legend and the king should simple and basic for off roading a tug boat( crossing rivers and floods) a elevator (climbing mountains and valleys)
Power and perfect design for exploring rugged off-roading
RELIABILITY.
yes thats how the U.S. spec LC 200 should of been , more utilitarian ,it was a 3 row luxury Family school bus @$90k
Do you have to turn off pda everytime your turn on the truck again?
is this car good for day to day using or only for off roading ?
Isnt the torsen diff something we've had in the 4runners since the 4th gen? Which is about 20 years now? Didnt late model 3rd gens also have a version of it? Or am I getting thay wrong? I currently sit in a 08 4runner and will eventually be in the market but nothing really seems to be leagues better or a real upgrade. This drive train might be worth it due to mpgs
Only in the 4Runner Limited. All the other models (TRD, etc.) are part-time 4WD with a transfer case.
What fuel does it take? Epas website says it takes premium but I've seen else where it takes regular 87
Most modern turbos can take regular, they just reduce power to adjust for it. I don’t know if that’s specifically the case with the LC. Always good to go with mfg recommendation when in doubt.
Hey Ryan, great video as usual. I've been looking forward to you getting your hands on a Land Cruiser for a while, so glad to see you could get ahold of one. I'm curious, do you know how large of tires it can (sanely) fit? It seems like tires are probably the main upgrade here, given the solid axle and slightly lower ground clearance. Do you know if the higher trims come with better performing tires?
Also, I know we're heading into summer now, but I'm also really looking forward to you testing one of these in winter. I drive an Outback Wilderness now (partially based on your testing and comparison videos!), and while I don't do a ton of off-roading, I do live in a very snowy climate, and it has been an absolute tank in the snow and on farm roads. That said, if I'm honest, the Land Cruiser may have stolen my heart, so I'm really curious about the snow performance. Thanks again for the video!
Late reply on this one, but I now know you can fit 34s reliably on the LC with 35's getting squeeze on to some. HOWEVER, the spare tire well can only handle a 33. So you you'll need to figure out an alterante place for the spare if you go that big. For that reason, I'm sticking to 33s.
Can you do a comparison with Subaru wilderness?
It seems like a really cool vehicle but I think you’re paying a lot for the LC badge. I don’t get why you’d buy this model vs the 4Runner.
roomier cabin for larger folks
Most reviews that have been in both have said everything in the LC feels more premium and solid, even on the base trim. Less flexible materials and squeaky points.
By the time you get the hybrid powertrain in 4-Runner I bet you are very close to this in price.
I love the Land Cruiser and want one badly, but the trim I want is 65k…which is about the same cost as the base Lexus GX550, which, in my opinion, comes with a more desirable engine and the Lexus service department. If this thing started at 50k, I’d say for a rugged, reliable, bare bones off roader, that’d be a decent deal but at 60k, this is too close in price to the GX.
There's so much product overlap between this, the new 4Runner and the GX. You have to wonder what the Toyota/Lexus marketing departments are thinking.
Sweet rig. Would love to have one. Even this rental car trim level. But once again, I’m in the wrong tax bracket. For years I was a truck/suv guy, but recently on a whim I changed my enthusiasm to cars. And it’s a good thing because I can’t afford most of the new trucks/suvs that are being released now anyway. Even some of the rent-a-wreck trims are outrageous now. Traded my 14 Silverado Rally Edition for a 22 Crosstrek Limited and I love it. But in the next year or so I’m planning on either a WRX TS or a GR Corolla. Both of which fully specd ( I’m making assumptions about the TS because it was just announced) go for basically the entry level price of most trucks and suvs now.
One more thing, you didn't mention the small gas tank. Total range is only an EV-like 370 miles (C/D observed, hwy mpg of 21). This is pretty poor. (Jeep Grand Cherokee V6 = 500 mile range, with higher hwy mpg.) I've read the GX has a much larger tank. I wonder if it could be installed on LC or the battery is the problem?
I didn’t think I’d want this until I saw it in person. Boy was I wrong. I look the styling. It’s larger than it appears on video too.
Great review as per usual. Thank you!
Could someone kindly explain to me what a 'locking center differential' does and how that compares with a vehicle that doesnt or does have a 'locking front differential'. In some explanations I've seen it seems like its no difference between front and center...yet the G wagon has all 3.
Forgive my ignorance and thank you in advance.
22:20 The new LC70 and LC300 GR Sport both have the front and rear locking differentials
Since we’re based in the United States, that’s the context we’re working with. Neither of those vehicles have ever been available here.
Good job! Finally someone mentions the torque split front to rear; default: 40-60, which is nice, but how much torque can it shift front and rear? Can it shift 100% to either end? You were also clear that it is a full-time system, so good in snow, etc. Well done. This annoying PDA, can you set it and forget it, or it always has to be switched off when starting?
Also, Toyota has a lot of dinging nannies these days. Are those switch off once or at every start?
Checked one of these out today. Imo price tag should be mid 40s all day. This is a base model suv with a 4 cylinder in it. Hopefully the declining sales catches up and they start dropping prices cause this is just absurd. 60k for a base model.
Literally sat in this feeling like a downgrade 🙈 WAY TOO MUCH
Am glad you got your hands on this LC ..am deciding on ranger raptor or LC250 1958
I’m in the same boat…looking forward to your comparison review with your new first edition Land Cruiser
I really feel like the 1958 trim is the spiritual successor to the FJ Cruiser. Plastic interior with very simple & basic controls. No more than necessary to get you places...this will be the next vehicle for me.
Yeah and the FJ new was in low 30s. Those were the days
60k for a ton of plastic and cloth.
And manual seats… Thai is unacceptable at this price point, it’s not a 10k car
Most vehicles are full of plastic inside and out, so not sure why reviewers talk about plastic at all in their reviews, cars are full of plastic, and have been for decades since people whined about steel dash boards, automakers went to plastic and its been that way ever since.....people want to overpay for vehicles so its no wonder the base price of this vehicle is well over $60k because they know people are dumb enough to pay it just for the Land Cruiser stickers.
@@wildbill23c sure, but this has the same feel as 02 Taco. Yet Toyota is charging $60k for something that should be maximum $40k. Who knows if this will be reliable. This will be a pavement queen for the 90% of people , and for $10k more I am driving MDX type-s.
north of 50k is pretty steep considering its so basic! If this was high 30s to low 40s. I would go buy one right now.
I’ve been following you for a while now. One thing I noticed that you don’t have is a HPF on your audio recording. I highly recommend that as the road noise and driving audio recording has a lot of low rumbling that is really annoying to hear when you have an audio system with subwoofers.
Fair point. The decision on that was to not artificially “sound deaden” the vehicles we test. If you have an accurate sound system it shouldn’t be too boom-y. Though I do understand not everyone wants to adjust their systems just for our reviews. We need to come up with a consistent process that works for all vehicles.
It’s funny how you assume I don’t have “accurate sound system” as it’s microphone calibrated and is worth more than the vehicle in this video. The issue is more “consumer grade” sound systems can’t replicate sound frequencies below 40hz and usually “artificially taper” is off lower frequencies due to speakers limitation and amplifier. Regardless I don’t have this issue with any “professional” production video or audio. You’re not the only vehicle review that I watch, only one of many. I’m just trying to help you evaluate your production of your videos. You might want to ask an audio engineer first before bashing someone advice.
@@tonydang2067I assume… because a lot of people that have gaming system speakers with accentuated bass. It’s not a personal judgement, just what I saw from a decade in the PC business.
Love it, I am planning to buy one for my dad maybe next year
this is perfect for overlanding no frills no BS and i like no fancy plastics when your rig will covered in dirt and dust anyways but i just need to wait for the reliability part of the new engine before i can truly pull the trigger on this
All MPG ratings should be based on hill country driving or 70-85 mph flat freeway driving. Anything youbcan get over that is a bonus, but it shows real world requirements for many at highways speed. Slow speed is typically becuase of hills, high speed when flat.
Less tech is better. That's what makes the land cruiser so rugged and iconic. Its a land cruiser its meant to be basic idk why people complaining about. Now i see alot of American really wanting the 70 series in the states but if it comes to your market you'll have more complaining because of how basic and utilitarian it is, you can't have it all!!!
You are missing an important point. Many people confuse the terms 'comment' and 'complaint' so they feel obliged to whine, weep, whinge and wail in the space below the video. 😉
Why the push for hybrid tech in off road SUV's. Eventually your going to replace those batteries at a major cost. As well, how durable is a hybrid off road? Lastly, at the price of the base model your approaching 4-Runner TRD Pro money which is something to consider.
Toyota is in a strange place... They may be letting their popularity and sales get to their heads and make them think they can price however they want release overlapping models.
Its strange, im very interested in how it works out.
Will I miss the MTS if get the 1958 instead of the Land Cruiser trim?
If you’re asking, probably not. A rear locker and the included ATRAC is a pretty potent combo.
@@drivingsports good to know. I refuse to pay for useless options dealers want to sell you plus ridiculous markups.
If possible do crawler going down hill curious with v4 will it go slow like a v8
Living in an area with hot humid summers, and frigid winters, I would pay extra for cloth seats, and buttons. But that price tag...
Don't worry, the price is much higher in Canada. 😉
I agree that this is slightly over priced, but I get the feeling a lot of people in the comments haven’t priced a new vehicle in awhile.
These are out of my budget, but the more I see on these, the more I kind of love them. Great review.
Yep- The average new car sales price in the US is 47,000 USD.
Great job in giving the public a base model, now extend it to all the other vehicles
I really like it , it has that JDM imported Prado feeling , but I don’t know, the I force v6 engines are not doing well , would the I force 4 cylinders be the same
A very good review. Thanks!
I do appreciate your referencing the bad looking LX grille. Toyota/Lexus design is typically busy and tacky.
As for the LC, it does look good, but I am wondering why the upcoming 4Runner will be about the same size as the LC, in fact you get the 3" in length you mentioned, back. It will also be the same drivetrain, so why pay more for the LC?
Well, both will be hard to find at dealers for some time, regardless.
What can't we get manual crank windows too? Those are pretty cool. Just make sure it's low drag.
Clearly has great off road capabilities which I would expect, and personally I don’t mind the plastic/cloth interior and manual adjust seats. After all it does have its roots in overlanding and I don’t really focus too much on luxury in that arena. But the price is just too much. I could stomach this at 40k with the top trim at 50k or 55k max or something like that. Yes this is more capable than my 23 Outback Onyx XT but it had better be - it’s a Land Cruiser. But for the price, it isn’t that much more capable, and with less economy and fewer features. Cool rig but these manufacturers need to come down to earth with the prices across the board.
Even the base model looks cool
Like all new vehicles, way to expensive. The economy is in the toilet and companies still just sitting their being greedy. Sad cause people are really struggling right now. All vehicles need to go back to reasonable pricing. Make things simple and keep it cheaper. What that means is less profits for the company, I get that but people just can’t afford what they need these days. On a side note, love your channel, you are one of the best to watch. Appreciate you always being so thorough on your vehicle testing. Great job and keep it up!
While true, isn't it the buyer the one with the agency here? Not to justify the prices here but the folks struggling should look at other options like the used market; nobody is forcing them to purchase new obviously
A lot of high tech features, are mandated, such as rear view camera. Infotainment is now all in LCDs which means lots of software development. People want compatibility with cell phones amend ability to get navigation projection or natively. Then there is blind side monitoring, front and rear pedestrian alerts and Nannie’s, and rear sonar. You are not going back to your dad’s era tech.
That's an expense entry level vehicle! LOL But I like it. Just curious, would a Subaru Outback Wilderness go everywhere the Landcruiser went in this video? Thanks. I really enjoy your videos and the location you do the videos.
Yeah we’ve taken the Outback on far worse, though it would be lifting wheels on pretty much every obstacle.
@@drivingsports Cool. Thanks, and enjoy the great outdoors out there.
22:21 the 70 series Land Cruiser gets front and rear lockers in all trim levels in all body styles
Not available in our market.
The Subaru Outback & Forrester Wilderness has more ground Clearance @ A little over 9in. And a more plush interior.for a lot cheaper price.
" it's Toyota bro" lol. People will just buy it
I'll stick with my 22 4runner TRD Offroad Premium. Doesn't make sense to pay that much just to say "I have a Land Cruiser". That trim level with that interior should be 40k max.
This is a true off roaders dream truck
Why?
Lol
Lololol
I love how people keep saying this car is priced too high when the market has shown it will gladly pay these prices.
I don’t care that it has plastic interior, but what I do care about is that it costs $55k+ for one. No vehicle over $50k should ever have plastic materials as its main panels. There should really just be one interior. All the off-road goodies should be options and the main reasons to spend more $$.
nathan is proud of you for using his method good ole moomentum
8 inches of ground clearance? Srs?
Are those tires good for snow? 🇨🇦
No. Get a set of Blizzaks.
This 1958 trim should have the sway disconnect bar option too. That's an important feature for off road. Toyota is handicapping this vehicle by not offering the SBD
My local dealerships already have $10k markups posted on their LCs ☹️
really excellent review!!!, I will buy one some day, thank you!!!!