Depending on the CPU, chipset and motherboard design, plugging anything in the second PCI-E x16 slot can slow down your main PCI-E slot from x16 to an x8. Consult your motherboard manual, it's usually described there if it applies to your specific one. Slowing down to x8 may not impact performance, but this depends on the PCI-E version and type of your GPU (faster GPUs will saturate slot quicker).
Also this type of PCIe lane bifurcation can cause weird issues on some mainboards. In this case the first lane goes to the WiFi card, the next 7 lanes go nowhere and the last 8 go to the GPU in the primary slot. Same thing with an x4 NVME in the secondary slot. It may work perfectly fine for you but if you experience BSODs, freezes, driver crashes it's a good bet removing the secondary device fixes it.
@@muamercormehic4843 Second m2 slot could be routed through chipset, so the GPU would still stay at x16 or, depending on the platform, you can have gen5 m2_1, gen4 m2_2 and still have x16 on the GPU. Really depends on your CPU and mobo combination and generation.
There is an extension for the sort. It's a PCI-E Extension cable. I have a 7600 XT that covers the same slot. So I just bought one of those and it fits my old audio card (I know, but the sound quality is just better.)
@@kreuner11Nowadays it's not a big difference anymore in sound quality but you get some extra features, more power and usually a 6.35mm Audio port for Hi-Fi Headphones.
lol are you still in the 90's? wifi is so reliable nowadays you can hardly tell the difference unless you're in some kind of pro tournament, which most people aren't. looks like you really wanna look into upgrading your parts there buddy.
@@4536647674it’s very useful for extreme reliability and fast downloads like let’s be honest who wants to sit and wait hours to download some games or even big updates
@@4536647674Depends on where you live. For me it's a big difference. In CS2, I always get about 20ms ping with Ethernet, and about 40-80ms ping with some inconsistency on wifi. But generally speaking, Ethernet is still a huge upgrade over wifi for 99% of people.
you mean the m.2 slot? yeah ive seen it. Makes sense as m.2 is basically PCIe as an alternative connector. NVMe is just a Storage-Protocol (preferably spoken via PCIe), not a slot. Problem with the m.2 Wifi cards is that these almost never have reasonable antennas
@user-pk7je6wu1y To be fair, modern motherboards are like, the descendants of half of century of improvements and engineering 💀. Some of the nicer overclock ones are actually really wild with all they come with lol.
@@user-pk7je6wu1y It's actually beyond me how they route most of these cheaper boards particularly the typical micro ones on only 4 layers, and have it all still work including RAM signal integrity. Back in the day we used to have a lot more layers on functionally much simpler mainboards. There's a see through section on the mainboard with numbers 1-4 or 1-6 somewhere near an edge or corner which is a layer witness, so you can count the layers yourself.
You’d think it was self explanatory given the standard fitment of the slots. If they wanted it specifically for that one slot, they’d change the design entirely There was a reason why it was imperative for me to shop for a full sized slot on an MATX motherboard because I understood the capabilities. ASUS TUF B550 Wifi Plus was my motherboard of choice (pre-controversy)
you can also do vice versa, you can put your gpu in that x1 slot if you cut off the border, PCI-Express was made that way so it's backwards and forwards compatible it won't exactly be great but it will be usable (that's also what mining rigs do, since they don't need the bandwidth)
Had this for a second graphics card when they didn't support three Displays. On a later setup, I cut the GPU to x1 or x2. Was the easy way and I didn't want to cut the slot again.
Well not many manufacturers also made sound cards anymore, pcie one anyway, the usb dac market is quite tge opposite, flooding with, thankfully, mostly, good stuff
@@jordanmntungwa3311might also want to invest into di box, pcie soundcard does still have a market on the prosumer audio, but mostly more expensive than usb interface and it's i/o is also mostly line level and not instrument level
I can tell the difference between my sound card and MB audio, easily! MB audio has gotten better but it's still nowhere near a good sound card paired with good quality speakers. The bass is especially crisper and deeper. Explosions in games and movies sound more realistic on the sound card.
Usb dongel have a big problem. It use the cpu de /en code the data So the ping and response time go up a lot. So always go for a hardware solution and not a usb software .
you can easily use your head and think of many reasons why thats not always a solution a simple one is, pc far from router and dont want no ugly cable/cant put through wall
@@shadeshotTV Sorry but I have cables and I've never seen an issue with it. I prefer to have cables and a stable and powerful connexion rather than no cables and a jankie one.
@@saberruntv some dont want 1-200ft of cable running through high traffic areas in their home, some dont want cables running up/down/across stairs, some cant run cables through walls because of leasing/renting, pretty simple and common sense reasons for example my room is right infront of the stairs, i have 2 ethernet cables running across my doorway, if i trip over them i fall straight down the stairs, im the only person walking here so im fine with it or we discard 2 perfectly fine cables and get much longer ones to route on the trim also, how do you manage to get jankie wifi nowadays? if i went on amazon and got some random products i would have to purposefully spend more in order to get a less than perfect experience this is coming from someone who has a 48port +4 spfp+ switch, running 10Gb on a server and my pc, and have a bare minimum router in a 2 story house, wifi and wired are identical experiences everywhere in the house, even for doing stuff on my server the only difference is my pc can do faster speeds, but everyone else its the exact same as wired/wifi
@@shadeshotTV You don't actually need to run an Ethernet cable the whole way. There are adapters to add the Ethernet signal to coax cable (i.e. antenna and cable TV coax) or even the power lines in your walls.
If the GPU covers all of the slots, a USB dongle is not the only option. Literally on the same Reddit post, everyone is saying you can just buy a 1x PCIE riser
This is mainly a problem if you have a micro atx motherboard. They typically have only 4 spaces for expansion slots instead of the typical 7 on the full size atx motherboards.
That motherboard size is very common on super budget builds because they are typically the cheapest type compared to full atx or mini itx motherboards.
My GPU covered all of them, but I just fit a 90° angle riser in there and mounted the Wi-Fi card such that its antennas poke through the front of the case. I have a cheap black plastic case that looks allright according to me. And don't even ask why I have 7 USB ports in the front (4 USB 2, 3 USB 3.0)
Always go with ethernet cable. Even if the modem/router is in another room. Far more stable connection and since you get your connection directly from the cable, you can always use your connection speed to the fullest. For example if you downloading large files, another devices with wifi connection won't slow your download speed. Instead their connection speed will slow down.
My GPUs took all my slots away. Ended up using a router configured as a wireless externder and using Ethernet. Finding a cheap Wifi 6 router was also a big win for wireless VR
It also works in the opposite direction. You can plug in a PCI-e x16 card into a PCI-e x1 slot, provided that you use a raiser or it's an open back slot. It won't perform at full throughput obviously, but you know, it depends if that matters, like for mining - it doesn't, for gaming, yeah just plug it into the 16x slot.
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Not only that, the lower x16 slot electrically is an x4 slot many times, anyways.
I knew about this when building my first pc so i spent a bit more than what i would've spent on a pcie wifi card for a usb one that gets me very good wifi.
Just check your manual about what you lose when you use your bottom full length slot. They're usually an "x16" length slot running at "x4" or "x8", anyways, but they'll typically cut something else off. Just depends on the chipset because your CPU's PCI-e lanes are for the top PCI-e x16 slot, Ethernet, built-in Wi-Fi if you have it, USB, etc., and then the chipset is for every slot beneath the top PCI-e x16 slot. That's why they're usually PCI-e 3.0 (on B550) or even PCI-e 2.0 (on B450) lol. Just like when you stick an M.2 NVME card in the bottom slot. You have a choice to either lose S-ATA ports 5/6 OR have it run at x2 instead of x4 and have S-ATA 5/6 run at half bandwidth. It's typically the benefit of the x470 or x570 chipsets. You are likely to get a few more PCI-e lanes out of those AND likely to have a higher PCI-e version. But I can't complain, my Asus STRIX B550-F Gaming Wi-Fi II is absolutely LOADED with PCI-e cards and so many USB peripherals lol. And since it's B550 with a Zen 3 5900x, I have PCI-e 4.0 up top on my GPU and M.2 NVME. Eh, whatever, no one reads comments.
I don’t trust usb dongle’s anymore. I had 3 in one year, and they all failed. 1st one worked well until it got hot, 2nd one fried itself. And the last one was so slow it was like using dial-up.
@@upseguest Most people's dial up back in the day only went 28-56kbps, even some were 14kbps. I'm talking AOL days when you'd actually hear your computer dial into a number, hence the name "dial up".
Depends on the dongel and the connector. Suppose you purchase a cheap low bandwith dongle it won't help What more people do buy a good dongle then put that in a low bandwith USB type A 2.0 Always put dongel in a USB type A 3.2 or anything above 3.0 gen 2 or 3 . It's still not as fast compered to pcie or inbuilt options but reliable. Where's also type C and Thunderbolt dongels . Thunderbolt 4 was 40 Gbps speed will it work faster maybe yes never tried. Maybe I gues not
I ran into exactly this issue a couple months ago when I was adding a Wi-Fi card to one of my PCs. I had no idea you could put that tiny 1X card into a full size slot, but it works like a champ!
To make it even more fun: those lower "full length" PCI slots shown here have a full length (16x) connector but only a quarter to half of it's lenght has actual contacts (4x or 8x speed) You can see it if you look close.
A serial or PC card wifi dongle was the only way to have wifi on a laptop before 1999 when the IBook became the first device to have wifi built in! There were also PCI wifi cards back then for PCs.
if you still want that internal wifi thing you can always get a fexible extender , that way your gpu can still jam in there and you will still have the extra 16X slot free for more internal storage or whatever .
Need more sata connector i love the x1 put a 4 additional slots of sata . Van add more storage. Bandwidth limitations depends pn motherboard brand to brand mpdel to model so 2 slots in usage
I know you can plug into any pci-e slot as long as it has enough lanes but something just feels right about plugging into 1 that is the exact size for the device.
Not to mention that you can get riser cards and cables that would allow you to plug in underneath the GPU and put the wifi card well below, out of the way of airflow…
It's astonishing how many problems I've never thought of that people stumble over and I'm sure there are ones I've stumbled over that they thought obvious. Mad world 😂
If you don’t have a pci-e slot available use a laptop wifi card in an m.2 slot with the wires extended to the slot and use external antennas for good signal
Guys, remember to check the pcie version of the motherboard before buying the 1x wifi slot. It should be in the manual. For the usb you can buy anyone.
What most people don't know is that when they do that, they don't always know if that "full" is passing to the CPU directly so except mixed results, especially in latency related workloads.
You can also mount your card sideways if your case has the ability to accommodate it and plug it into a pcie riser cable to ensure theres room for other peripherals. Always be sure you have the ability to add more devices later. Make sure that if you need to expand later that you uave the room on board and in your case to do so. Do your homework people. Dont slouch and think you'll never need the room. Many people do this and then run into these problems later. If theres even a thought you just might expand later, buy the necessary hardware prior to doing so.
Careful with that. I had issues multiple times with multiple instances of wifi cards that would not even show up in debice manager unless they were in a 1x slot only. Especially prebuilts like Dell or HP will sometimes have the slot wired in such a way that it doesnt detect them. I dont know why this is, but it was one of the firsy big hurdles I had to overcome building PCs and I just had it happen again recently. In theory an aftermarket board should have the ability to change the slot mode in the BIOS, if that is even necessary. But its something to watch out for. I do agree PCI-e is backwards AND forwards conpatible. But sometimes you still have issues.
on the flip side, if you have a GPU that doesn't utilise the full x16 PCIE slot but only 4 lanes, you can put it in a x4 PCIE slot, even though the GPU will have the full x16 connector.
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I was blown away by the realization that you can just add more USB ports to your PC.
It will consume some bandwith depends how much you have.
I think the person is talking about the pcie lines bandwidth but I'm not knowledgeable enough to know how much a USB cards needs or use
I was blown away by the fact that M.2 expansion cards also exist lol
@@moonage_Yep but depending on your motherboard you might not be able to use it as boot drive
There are USB hubs you can buy.
Plugs to one usb port and gives you 4 more.
Pcie riser cables are also an option
But they can be pretty expensive
If that fits...
@@JockelGamingmost of the 1x cable are like 10 bucks
pcie extension ribbons exist. not sure why this wasn't mentioned in the video
and m.2
Depending on the CPU, chipset and motherboard design, plugging anything in the second PCI-E x16 slot can slow down your main PCI-E slot from x16 to an x8. Consult your motherboard manual, it's usually described there if it applies to your specific one. Slowing down to x8 may not impact performance, but this depends on the PCI-E version and type of your GPU (faster GPUs will saturate slot quicker).
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Also this type of PCIe lane bifurcation can cause weird issues on some mainboards. In this case the first lane goes to the WiFi card, the next 7 lanes go nowhere and the last 8 go to the GPU in the primary slot. Same thing with an x4 NVME in the secondary slot. It may work perfectly fine for you but if you experience BSODs, freezes, driver crashes it's a good bet removing the secondary device fixes it.
had a board that did this, i had my 2060 lose a good chunk of performance just by putting a wifi card in the x8 slot and not be actively used
or cutting the gpu x16 slot to x8 or x4 if the second m2 slot + x1 slots are used.
@@muamercormehic4843 Second m2 slot could be routed through chipset, so the GPU would still stay at x16 or, depending on the platform, you can have gen5 m2_1, gen4 m2_2 and still have x16 on the GPU. Really depends on your CPU and mobo combination and generation.
There is an extension for the sort. It's a PCI-E Extension cable. I have a 7600 XT that covers the same slot. So I just bought one of those and it fits my old audio card (I know, but the sound quality is just better.)
Is it? Can you tell the difference?
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Why'd you buy a 7600 XT tho?
@@kreuner11Nowadays it's not a big difference anymore in sound quality but you get some extra features, more power and usually a 6.35mm Audio port for Hi-Fi Headphones.
The extension cable was the tip I was expecting. I didn't know if they'd fit under the graphics card tho.
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@@Arvl.Xd thats what i was thinking
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@@kirbybwomack6825 Scroll a dictionary. :)
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Me laughing in Ethernet to avoid this 😅
Me laughing in fibre to avoid both😂
@@legominimovieproductions you need a PCIe port for the fiber connectors though 😊
@@legominimovieproductions -_-
@@schwarzman5876 that is correct, but I always have enough pcie ports (at least 3 x16 slots with x8 connection)
@@legominimovieproductions fiber uses ethernet too, so nope, you are not avoiding
If you're a pc gamer, you really wanna look into how you can get ethernet into your room.
lol are you still in the 90's? wifi is so reliable nowadays you can hardly tell the difference unless you're in some kind of pro tournament, which most people aren't. looks like you really wanna look into upgrading your parts there buddy.
@@4536647674 tried wifi vs etherent and wifi was barely half the speed and with possible interference if multiple people use wiff
@@4536647674it’s very useful for extreme reliability and fast downloads like let’s be honest who wants to sit and wait hours to download some games or even big updates
@@4536647674Depends on where you live. For me it's a big difference. In CS2, I always get about 20ms ping with Ethernet, and about 40-80ms ping with some inconsistency on wifi.
But generally speaking, Ethernet is still a huge upgrade over wifi for 99% of people.
@@4536647674upgrade WHAT? Ethernet cable is the best anyway.
A lot of Wifi cards also use the NVMe slots as well.
you mean the m.2 slot? yeah ive seen it. Makes sense as m.2 is basically PCIe as an alternative connector. NVMe is just a Storage-Protocol (preferably spoken via PCIe), not a slot. Problem with the m.2 Wifi cards is that these almost never have reasonable antennas
Even if use them, A metal case breaks Wifi and Bluetooth (laptops are plastic)😮
Two words, riser cable.
I've seen motherboards with a X1 slot above the x16 slot, so that's also an option. So that's interesting.
My riser cable doesn't work on the top slot of the motherboard only works with the second slot. And it's a 4gen so there's no issues there
We fail to appreciate how good the engineering of a motherboard is
Yeah when I see somethings like this i just start to wonder does these guys have the same brain as me
@user-pk7je6wu1y To be fair, modern motherboards are like, the descendants of half of century of improvements and engineering 💀. Some of the nicer overclock ones are actually really wild with all they come with lol.
@@user-pk7je6wu1y It's actually beyond me how they route most of these cheaper boards particularly the typical micro ones on only 4 layers, and have it all still work including RAM signal integrity. Back in the day we used to have a lot more layers on functionally much simpler mainboards.
There's a see through section on the mainboard with numbers 1-4 or 1-6 somewhere near an edge or corner which is a layer witness, so you can count the layers yourself.
*awful
Pcie slots have been the same since I can remember. We got to come up with something better.
You’d think it was self explanatory given the standard fitment of the slots.
If they wanted it specifically for that one slot, they’d change the design entirely
There was a reason why it was imperative for me to shop for a full sized slot on an MATX motherboard because I understood the capabilities.
ASUS TUF B550 Wifi Plus was my motherboard of choice (pre-controversy)
Most ASRock boards also support M.2 Wifi, even the non-Wifi boards (example B650m Pro RS)
Yeah, I have the same mobo wifi version and it works wonderful
you can also do vice versa, you can put your gpu in that x1 slot if you cut off the border, PCI-Express was made that way so it's backwards and forwards compatible
it won't exactly be great but it will be usable (that's also what mining rigs do, since they don't need the bandwidth)
Yup, there are risers to do that as well. And every x1 device, I ever owned mentioned that you can put it in an x16/x8 slot in the manual.
Had this for a second graphics card when they didn't support three Displays.
On a later setup, I cut the GPU to x1 or x2.
Was the easy way and I didn't want to cut the slot again.
Used to slot my sound card in those normal size PCIE slot. I guess not many people actually use a sound card anymore.
I will. I want to find a pcie sound card to let me plug my guitars straight into my PC and record and FX music that way
@@jordanmntungwa3311 Nice, I am still using a Creative ZxR on my last slot.
Well not many manufacturers also made sound cards anymore, pcie one anyway, the usb dac market is quite tge opposite, flooding with, thankfully, mostly, good stuff
@@jordanmntungwa3311might also want to invest into di box, pcie soundcard does still have a market on the prosumer audio, but mostly more expensive than usb interface and it's i/o is also mostly line level and not instrument level
I can tell the difference between my sound card and MB audio, easily! MB audio has gotten better but it's still nowhere near a good sound card paired with good quality speakers. The bass is especially crisper and deeper. Explosions in games and movies sound more realistic on the sound card.
Usb dongel have a big problem.
It use the cpu de /en code the data
So the ping and response time go up a lot.
So always go for a hardware solution and not a usb software .
Rather than use a dongle that will always be at error just use a damn cable. more efficient, more stable than wifi and will never mess with you.
you can easily use your head and think of many reasons why thats not always a solution
a simple one is, pc far from router and dont want no ugly cable/cant put through wall
what if you want to use bluetooth and dont want to waste usb slot
@@shadeshotTV Sorry but I have cables and I've never seen an issue with it. I prefer to have cables and a stable and powerful connexion rather than no cables and a jankie one.
@@saberruntv some dont want 1-200ft of cable running through high traffic areas in their home, some dont want cables running up/down/across stairs, some cant run cables through walls because of leasing/renting, pretty simple and common sense reasons
for example my room is right infront of the stairs, i have 2 ethernet cables running across my doorway, if i trip over them i fall straight down the stairs, im the only person walking here so im fine with it
or we discard 2 perfectly fine cables and get much longer ones to route on the trim
also, how do you manage to get jankie wifi nowadays? if i went on amazon and got some random products i would have to purposefully spend more in order to get a less than perfect experience
this is coming from someone who has a 48port +4 spfp+ switch, running 10Gb on a server and my pc, and have a bare minimum router in a 2 story house, wifi and wired are identical experiences everywhere in the house, even for doing stuff on my server the only difference is my pc can do faster speeds, but everyone else its the exact same as wired/wifi
@@shadeshotTV You don't actually need to run an Ethernet cable the whole way. There are adapters to add the Ethernet signal to coax cable (i.e. antenna and cable TV coax) or even the power lines in your walls.
If the GPU covers all of the slots, a USB dongle is not the only option. Literally on the same Reddit post, everyone is saying you can just buy a 1x PCIE riser
Also USB wi-fi adapters are piece of shit. No exceptions. You are literally better off using your phone as wi-fi adapter.
Riser cable baby
Don't forget about M.2 E-key slots, most modern boards that don't have onboard Wi-Fi have one
also the pci-e slot may share the bus with the m.2 drive next to it.
if your gpu is too big and takes up all the slots, BUY A NEW MOBO (edit 300 likes? wow)
This is mainly a problem if you have a micro atx motherboard. They typically have only 4 spaces for expansion slots instead of the typical 7 on the full size atx motherboards.
That motherboard size is very common on super budget builds because they are typically the cheapest type compared to full atx or mini itx motherboards.
Have you heard of mATX?
Ehh ill just buy a 5$ dongle.
Or use pcie risers
My GPU covered all of them, but I just fit a 90° angle riser in there and mounted the Wi-Fi card such that its antennas poke through the front of the case.
I have a cheap black plastic case that looks allright according to me. And don't even ask why I have 7 USB ports in the front (4 USB 2, 3 USB 3.0)
Get u a riser cable.
Always go with ethernet cable. Even if the modem/router is in another room. Far more stable connection and since you get your connection directly from the cable, you can always use your connection speed to the fullest. For example if you downloading large files, another devices with wifi connection won't slow your download speed. Instead their connection speed will slow down.
This is wild for some people but just buy a ethernet cable and save for a extender or even but one in the first place.
I think you mean a bridge.
@@gymnastchannel7372 no I mean a extender
My GPUs took all my slots away. Ended up using a router configured as a wireless externder and using Ethernet.
Finding a cheap Wifi 6 router was also a big win for wireless VR
This also works with 8-bit ISA cards. You can plug them into 16-bit ISA slots. An some 16-bit ISA cards will also work in 8-bit slots.
Man !! Thank u so much for such a detailed comparison and what this gpu can do ❤
It also works in the opposite direction. You can plug in a PCI-e x16 card into a PCI-e x1 slot, provided that you use a raiser or it's an open back slot.
It won't perform at full throughput obviously, but you know, it depends if that matters, like for mining - it doesn't, for gaming, yeah just plug it into the 16x slot.
Not only that, the lower x16 slot electrically is an x4 slot many times, anyways.
Or get an extension cable
I knew about this when building my first pc so i spent a bit more than what i would've spent on a pcie wifi card for a usb one that gets me very good wifi.
Just check your manual about what you lose when you use your bottom full length slot. They're usually an "x16" length slot running at "x4" or "x8", anyways, but they'll typically cut something else off.
Just depends on the chipset because your CPU's PCI-e lanes are for the top PCI-e x16 slot, Ethernet, built-in Wi-Fi if you have it, USB, etc., and then the chipset is for every slot beneath the top PCI-e x16 slot.
That's why they're usually PCI-e 3.0 (on B550) or even PCI-e 2.0 (on B450) lol. Just like when you stick an M.2 NVME card in the bottom slot. You have a choice to either lose S-ATA ports 5/6 OR have it run at x2 instead of x4 and have S-ATA 5/6 run at half bandwidth.
It's typically the benefit of the x470 or x570 chipsets. You are likely to get a few more PCI-e lanes out of those AND likely to have a higher PCI-e version.
But I can't complain, my Asus STRIX B550-F Gaming Wi-Fi II is absolutely LOADED with PCI-e cards and so many USB peripherals lol. And since it's B550 with a Zen 3 5900x, I have PCI-e 4.0 up top on my GPU and M.2 NVME.
Eh, whatever, no one reads comments.
Intel ax210 into m.2 wifi
Ethernet > Wi-Fi.
and what even less people know: a lot of motherboards often slow down gpu bandwith to 8x when using some slots (pcie, m2)...
This is how I set my workstation up, runs like a dream
I don’t trust usb dongle’s anymore. I had 3 in one year, and they all failed. 1st one worked well until it got hot, 2nd one fried itself. And the last one was so slow it was like using dial-up.
Dial up isn't slow, you get like 5 Mbps which is very fast
@@upseguest You’re thinking of DSL, Dial up went as fast as 256kbps. If only I had 5mbps with that adapter.
@@upseguest Most people's dial up back in the day only went 28-56kbps, even some were 14kbps.
I'm talking AOL days when you'd actually hear your computer dial into a number, hence the name "dial up".
@@upseguest no
On all motherboards those slots are right under the main PCIE slots
And most GPUs are 2-slot cards.
The amount of times someone has told me that would break their computer is amazing. They are always so amazed when it works 😂
you can even put bigger slot devices in smaller slots if you cut the plastic and they'll work just fine
Chat, what's going on
Mods, pin this guy down and give him the entirety of the fnaf lore AND matpat's theories for 2 months nonstop.
but usb Donegal is so slow
I’d assume usbc ones are faster than the regular usb
Uhm, no?
Depends on the USB Connection and the Wireless connection version.
You can't just generalize this
If it's plugged into a proper port and nearly gigabyte wifi isn't enough for you than idk what to say 😂
They are not slow just buy a better one ...there are so many options there
Depends on the dongel and the connector.
Suppose you purchase a cheap low bandwith dongle it won't help
What more people do buy a good dongle then put that in a low bandwith USB type A 2.0
Always put dongel in a USB type A 3.2 or anything above 3.0 gen 2 or 3 .
It's still not as fast compered to pcie or inbuilt options but reliable.
Where's also type C and Thunderbolt dongels .
Thunderbolt 4 was 40 Gbps speed will it work faster maybe yes never tried.
Maybe I gues not
I ran into exactly this issue a couple months ago when I was adding a Wi-Fi card to one of my PCs. I had no idea you could put that tiny 1X card into a full size slot, but it works like a champ!
My 4090 is crazy big, it has a little stand to hold up the weight. That covers my slots
Basic knowledge is a tip nowdays, nice.
So don't buy Motherboards with shit designs or have a little bit of knowledge
It fits in every pci slot, even the 8x and 16x
Damn didnt know this was expecting a riser cable explanation.
these bots are so annoying
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Lesson: Buy a new motherboard
You can also get an adapter cable that allows you to mount it in a slot further away.
To make it even more fun: those lower "full length" PCI slots shown here have a full length (16x) connector but only a quarter to half of it's lenght has actual contacts (4x or 8x speed) You can see it if you look close.
if you don't know your PCI-E, don't call yourself a PC-Builder :-P
A serial or PC card wifi dongle was the only way to have wifi on a laptop before 1999 when the IBook became the first device to have wifi built in! There were also PCI wifi cards back then for PCs.
4090 will always do the trick of covering all the slots 😊
if you still want that internal wifi thing you can always get a fexible extender , that way your gpu can still jam in there and you will still have the extra 16X slot free for more internal storage or whatever .
That example picture of the MoBo casually showing an M.2 WIFI slot 😂
Riser cable to relocate either should work too.
Need more sata connector i love the x1 put a 4 additional slots of sata . Van add more storage. Bandwidth limitations depends pn motherboard brand to brand mpdel to model so 2 slots in usage
For those with PCs and no usb cs. The PCI option is the best way to go.
inverse is also true, you can put a 16x card in a 4x slot assuming the slot is cutout on the backside
I know you can plug into any pci-e slot as long as it has enough lanes but something just feels right about plugging into 1 that is the exact size for the device.
I bought an extra SATA slot pcie thing, the install was pretty okay
I like getting a extension so i can rout the Wi-Fi somewhere else and keep the build clean
While some state that even a riser is obstructed by the gpu, a good idea is to get a x16 riser to mount the gpu elsewhere freeing up all the slots.
Not to mention that you can get riser cards and cables that would allow you to plug in underneath the GPU and put the wifi card well below, out of the way of airflow…
It's astonishing how many problems I've never thought of that people stumble over and I'm sure there are ones I've stumbled over that they thought obvious. Mad world 😂
Pcie WiFi cards are typically faster than the usb ones if you go by latency at least. I’ve tried both and the pcie cards are definitely more stable
Funny enough, that last slot on that motherboard is infact a 16x size but only has the pins to function as a 4x slot
Be mindful that some mobos will disable the lowest x16 slot if you populate both nvme slots.
You can also get a 1x riser and mount it some where in the case the 1x card will work.
As a pc builder you just blew my mind! 😅 my mobo is perfect though.
I recommend wavlink AC1900 it's a really good wifi antenna and it's magnetic so you can have sideways on the wall if you really wanted
I had that problem one time also. Now, when I'm building another pc, I will buy motherboards that includes wifi.
As an ex miner I used this trick for connecting pcie risers into x16 ports
U dont need a dongle just get a riser cable and plug her in
You can also buy a riser cable or adapter.. there are tons of cheap solutions which were used for bitcoing mining in the past.
If you don’t have a pci-e slot available use a laptop wifi card in an m.2 slot with the wires extended to the slot and use external antennas for good signal
had to do this recently for one of my builds, putting wifi card in bottom full sized card slot. lol
My slot is populated by a SATA extension board, motherboards never come with enough SATA connectors to fit my data hoarding needs.
extension ribbons with a 90 to fit under the gpu works fine. my 3050 covers all my slots and I use a 90 extension to fit in the wifi card.
Guys, remember to check the pcie version of the motherboard before buying the 1x wifi slot. It should be in the manual. For the usb you can buy anyone.
Get a right angle 1x pcie riser cable, then mount the card with the low profile bracket in a lower slot.
What most people don't know is that when they do that, they don't always know if that "full" is passing to the CPU directly so except mixed results, especially in latency related workloads.
Fr and also thx for the tips im about to build a pc
You can also mount your card sideways if your case has the ability to accommodate it and plug it into a pcie riser cable to ensure theres room for other peripherals.
Always be sure you have the ability to add more devices later. Make sure that if you need to expand later that you uave the room on board and in your case to do so.
Do your homework people. Dont slouch and think you'll never need the room. Many people do this and then run into these problems later. If theres even a thought you just might expand later, buy the necessary hardware prior to doing so.
I have a microATX build with a full size GPU. I just plug my wifi card in the full size PCIe slot on the bottom since the GPU covers the tiny PCIes.
There are gpu extension cables, they also help with gpu weight holding on to the case and not the motherboard
There are risers that have an angle, you can connect it to the PCI and leave the wifi card anywhere
Careful with that. I had issues multiple times with multiple instances of wifi cards that would not even show up in debice manager unless they were in a 1x slot only. Especially prebuilts like Dell or HP will sometimes have the slot wired in such a way that it doesnt detect them. I dont know why this is, but it was one of the firsy big hurdles I had to overcome building PCs and I just had it happen again recently. In theory an aftermarket board should have the ability to change the slot mode in the BIOS, if that is even necessary. But its something to watch out for. I do agree PCI-e is backwards AND forwards conpatible. But sometimes you still have issues.
You can also do the opposite, and cut a slot into the x4 slot and put a full length card in it. It will work but with a huge loss of transfer speed
the reverse is true is most instances you can fit larger cards into smaller slots. just need to modify the slot slightly...
Only buy a USB dongle ❌
Buying an installing an extra pcie USB hub and putting in the dongle ✅
On my motherboard, the WiFi card is actually on the top because that's where the PCI-E 1x slot is. So it goes WiFi card, then GPU.
one more tip you can add the vga to the smaller pce slot but it will not as fast as the big slot
Is there a difference in the dongle and mobo plug in? Speed wise
on the flip side, if you have a GPU that doesn't utilise the full x16 PCIE slot but only 4 lanes, you can put it in a x4 PCIE slot, even though the GPU will have the full x16 connector.
OOOORRR. Or. Hear me out now... Ethernet!? 😂
Bought one from tp-link, and its mentioned in the installation manual.
I had this exact same problem, but I used a pie shelf, to barely fit under the gpu and still have the card function